I mean it's the usual song and dance of this is not for you, and then later why did no one watch. When will people learn that openly hating on the biggest segment of the fanbase is stupid. Not yet apparently.
Don’t forget the part where they repeatedly insult normal people on loop and then start shrieking or whining about normies not watching it because they were told it “wasn’t for them”.
It's funny that those people complained that heterosexuality was shoved on their faces all their lives and they didn't like it but for some reason they think that shoving their "representation" on our faces will be received with open arms and no reactions.
Anytime a tv show, movie, video game, etc., markets itself as being "gay" or having "representation" it's a clear indicator that it's most likely going to suck ass.
This! If the stories and representation were actually good (and the showrunners would stop insulting their audience), most people wouldn't even care if the main character is whatever. But it never is, because they try to lecture and brainwash instead of entertain because they *are not* entertainers. They are more like people who make propaganda videos. It's simple pattern recognition at this point.
No it's not that doesn't indicate anything I think people are way too assuming that for the words right off the bat. You seem to forget that there's nothing wrong with representation or having any gay characters in a video game TV show or movie as long as you do it right and that's the problem show automatically assuming stuff is going to suck is not always going to be correct
@@dalemcdenver7816nobody can brainwash anybody. Maybe days can go back to normal if audience and entertainment stop worrying about culture war altogether
Disney just announced they're raising my rate in October. So we're dropping them. Yep. Nothing good on there anymore and kids don't even watch it anymore.
Found one of my old hard drives with a bunch of movies on it and among them are the Disney movies I grew up with. That's the only thing and way I'll be watching Disney anything from now on.
The LBGTQ community has a responsibility to support this show financially. Not men that has supported for decades Marvel/Star Wars style entertainment.
They made it very abundantly clear this is not for straight males. Especially white ones the one male character said that very succinctly. So yeah it's up to wine mom's, and the rainbow brigade. I mean that worked out so well for that movie BROS, I'm sure it'll work out just as well here.
I've zero responsibility to support this crap, most lgbt roll their eyes at this crap. Pandering isn't a substitute for decent quality well constructed stories n entertainment. For every insufferable virtue signalling sjw there are many more gays u never know about cos we have actual lives n personalities beyond our bedroom preference.
Why would gay men support this schlock either, when most of Hollywood's ""gay"" characters are just Lesbians 💀 I'm sorta kidding, as I haven't given a 💩about marvel since the first Iron Man.
It's like laundry detergent or washing-up liquids, every new iteration is "the cleanest clean yet! The whitest whites!" They think this stuff sells, somehow, so they push it as a selling point.
_Bros_ ("It's the gayest! How it fail?"), _The Acolyte_ ("It's the gayest! How it fail?"), now _Agatha: Charmed Minus Charm_ ("It's the gayest!") They really ain't too quick at the ole pattern recognition thing, are they?
If they're going to make a show that the target audience is for the lgbt community, they have to be transparent about it and accept that it won't have massive appeal, but I have a problem when they bait and switch and forcing their agenda on existing franchises, in addition, I have no problem stating that I prefer not having lgbt content in my targeted entertainment, just like in streaming platforms there are genres that caters to people who chooses to watch them.
@@totomen666 The fact you heard the one male on the show say that during an interview and all the other women were like unhmmm. And I was like yup, let's make sure the hatred of the biggest audience that likes/liked Marvel is absolutely 100% abundantly clear. I mean straight males used to be their bread and butter. I honestly don't know what their go to demographic is now but it isn't the "modern audience" even though they think it is.
I love the fact that they’ll blame people not watching it and it’s like it’s not made for them. They say it’s not made for them. You are making something for a small audience accept the numbers.
I mean the one male character literally said in an interview "Marvel was never for just straight white men". Just the fact he needed to say that and everyone then nodded and went unhmmm could not have been a better deterrent for most of the audience. Oh yes they are setting up their defenses now for why this show fell right on it's face.
@@adamjones4989 It should be an absolute path to success but of course it won't be because it's not for the biggest audience, but the "modern audience".
Lesbian witches have been a thing in horror movies since the '70s and it's been done so much it's a tired cliche at this point. They're going to have to have something more than 'it's gay!' to draw viewers to this.
@@MSinistrari Well that's all they've got, they don't have any talent because they kicked all those people out. All they can do now is double down and blame the bigots even though no one's stopping anyone from watching this and yet no one will.
Yeah I would definitely say most lesbian, but not in a fun enjoyable way in an angry hateful way. It's all about tolerance but not tolerance to people they hate.
Inside Out 2 and Deadpool & Wolverine. Disney’s biggest hits in how long and now they’re going back to stuff no one asked for. That's so Disney for you.
I don't think it's so much that Disney is releasing this show because they WANT to and are squandering the successes they got with Inside Out 2 and Deadpool and Wolverine. This show is being released for one reason and one reason only. Contractual obligations.
@@LunaMane Which makes the fact that they've done a premiere party and stuff for it all the more sad and pathetic. I have no doubt the way they built this up when it flops (and it will flop) they are going to yet again blame the usual people for not liking their slop. Lather. rinse. repeat.
Nope… I’m out… Agatha isn’t even a major character. Don’t see why Disney bothered. It’s Marvel Universe and not Hocus Pocus Universe despite appearances. 😂
She was a huge meme at the time. She was universally liked as a villain. But somehow, Disney execs thought a series based around her would be a hit. Truly a throw spaghetti on the wall brain fart.
btw, the flaming castle is one of most clever designs I’ve ever seen, it reminds me of my art professor going on about drawing lines with the eraser, great use of negative space
The thing that absolutely guaranteed that a lot of people will never ever watch this show was an interview with a bunch of the cast including "teen" who just had to say "Marvel was never just for white straight men". Which is not only an incredibly disingenuous and stupid thing to say but apart from the white part it's absolutely true. Marvel has always been for straight males predominantly. As true for the comics as it is for the movies. This pivot they tried to make has failed miserably and the harder they try to continue to pivot the more they continue to fail. You can't just take a predominantly male anything and make it for women by changing a bunch of fundamental things about it. That's not how it works. And we know for a fact it doesn't work the other way either you can't take a predominantly female-centric thing and try to make it for males. Things just don't work that way. You can make things that both can enjoy but when you try to do this stuff where you make it into a divisive thing which they definitely did and also of course quadruple down on all the "gay stuff" first and foremost you know it's going to turn out badly.
For sake of argument, let's agree w/ Dizney's current POV regarding "representation" (i.e. people can ONLY ever identify w/ characters who share their *exact* same demographic traits) If this theory is correct, it makes $$$ sense to always pick the largest demo. So which group is larger.. straight white males black lesbians?
I don't care about trans or gay culture. I think anyone who thinks I should is weird and mentally unstable. I'm pretty comfortable with this position and will maintain it. I'm also happy with vendors who provide shows like this going broke because I don't care. Everyone wins. Isn't real life fun?
If even that, and then you have to find people that will also actually buy Disney+ to watch this. I'm willing to bet the few people that might have actually watched this will probably do so on the high seas. Call it a hunch.
Trying to work out why I should 1) CARE 2) OPEN MY WALLET 3) TALK OR GIVE ANY NOTICE TO MAINSTREAM MEDIA???? Will I suddenly combust? Will the world stop turning? No, all you need is food on the table and a roof over your head: entertainment is take or leave any day of the week and society will not crumble because it does. Just ignore it and it will go away, don’t fan the flames they try to send your way to drum up attention.
12:50 not sure if this answers Kneon's question, but there is a piece, a canon for 3 voices, in existence whose title from German translates to, "Lick my arse right well and clean."
Modern audience hmmmm oh wait I think I hear crickets. Disney is starting to look like the French revolution let them eat cake the rat says er Bob says.
I'm pretty sure it's already a done deal. I highly doubt anyone was clamoring for the show directly after Wandavision and now the show is years too late. This is just something they've got to pump out like echo. Although they're actually releasing this over multiple weeks so maybe not exactly.
Oh for sure, they always do I mean these wouldn't be the kind of people to make hollow virtue signaling on social media and then not actually follow through right?! I mean it's not like the acolyte that everyone kept hyping up and then no one actually watched so it was canceled. Nope, that would never happen people aren't that disingenuous. 🤣
It turns out eh gender Pretenders dont watch Tv.. and the Gay Men and Women like Stright Romance in fiction 7 hate Groomers like anyone normal & on Race Everyones backs up whe you say its not for some other race its dispicable to NORMAL people Who'd have funk it
Yea just ignore em, you got a million other things your money is better spent on, and even if you absolutely want to see their stuff, sail the 7 seas and say aaaargh me fellow pirates 😁
It's like I always say. Just cuz they come out with one decent movie/show they'll always return to form. No Way Home, Andor, Deadpool and Wolverine, whatever it is just a glitch (or Sony) in their schedule
Yeah I really do feel deep sympathy for people that want to actually believe that they'll somehow change their ways and correct course. They're just going to keep doubling down or try harder to hide what they're doing. The problem is most of them are absolute talentless hacks that's why it's been so obvious what the agenda is and how they're pushing it. If these people were any good it would be subliminal it would be woven deep within these shows in a way that you would never see unless you were really looking for it. But yeah I don't for a moment believe they're changing anything those were just a brief respite from the usual crap. Then it will be back to the usual garbage filled to the brim with propaganda and ideology.
And some people think Fegie wants to turn things around. Some one at marvel saw the Acolyte and thought we need some of that. We need lesbian witches in our show. Yeah Fegie really wants to turn things around
I have Disney plus and I don't like anybody else I can still tell you that I do watch some old shows and some new ones I really don't watch the Marvel TV shows
Reminder that it was some random executive "excited" for Agatha, despite not knowing who Agatha even was in the comics, that inspired Russell T. Davies to awkwardly jam Sutekh into the new gay Doctor Who. These people are out of touch with humanity, and have zero idea what normal people want to watch.
I really hate the erasure of Gen-X and how gay didn’t matter for a golden few years until it was co-opted by the rest of the alphabet. You want “gay”? Buffy. Xena. Fight Club. (About being gay & told by women to hide your masculinity.) Zorro the Gay Blade. No problems with Elton John, Freddie Mercury, Bert & Ernie, etc… Wasn’t an issue until 5 minutes ago.
Fight club is a really interesting one because that guy was still clearly deep in the closet when he wrote that book. I've heard a lot of theories and it makes a lot more sense when you know who the author is.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu have you read the book? He’s rebelling against the version of “Gay” that 90’s women wanted all gay men to be. Because women don’t think a “masculine” man can be gay.
Let Disney make every single show they want about whatever subject they want the same for every single streaming service, network television or movie production company I just do not care and no longer want to be angry. I just ask they stop calling me names and blaming me for their movies and how failing. I have watched one movie this year and no shows outside of a few animes.
How is it possible I'll have to see the pilot I hope I can find it on TH-cam .....Disney ain't getting a dime from me until they get there act together
I'm still relatively new to the channel, but this seemed like the most unhinged episode I've listen to so far. Not Disparu unhinged, but Clownfish unhinged. I enjoyed it, thank you.
I don’t understand why this even became a thing - it’s completely disgusting and I have no problem judging people for doing it. It’s gross, unsanitary, and potentially dangerous
The Acolyte was touted as "the gayest Star Wars ever", and it did miserably and was axed after one season. So some idiot on the Marvel end of Disney, decided to try and create their own gayest show ever. Why would anyone think that's a good idea after the other attempt failed? Who the heck green lights this garbage?
I blame it on them putting on the franchise where the main audience are the people who dislike reading/watching about gay romance. Straight Man usually dislike gay romance. Gay man who enjoy bl i heard also didnt care about lesbian romance either. The people who enjoy (and fetishizing) gay romance are mostly woman. They think by pushing gay romance down their throat is just going to make them more respectful toward LGBT but i found out it just make them into a homophobe. So it kinda backfired. Ton of people dislike it if their gay character turned straight (or even Bi sometimes). Same goes with the audience who love their straight character.
The main problem is still they have no good writers. Many of these shows are over all boring and make no sense. Writers forget the story and make a new one. Yes the characters mention every 5 seconds they are gay are annoying. And the agenda is annoying but without that is still not good and that's the problem.-
Yep, during "The Purge" many people with actual talent were thrown out and like I have constantly heard they didn't even bother to keep them around long enough to train these morons. So you have a bunch of stupid people with no talent that haven't been trained at all, don't know nothing about nothing and are constantly put onto projects way above their heads. Until Disney (and everyone else) stops hiring people based on how they identify or how they look and not on their actual ability and talents we are going to continue down this rabbit hole forever. It's fine with me I can watch them continue to burn as long as it takes. The money has to run out eventually.
I applaud how stunning and brave they are being. In fact, they should double down and go even more gay. It should not only be the most gay thing yet, it needs to be the most gay thing actually possible. Only then will the Modern Audience finally show up to pay for it. The reason the Acolyte failed was because the lesbian space witches weren't gay enough. If you gay it, the woke will come. Seriously, their plan has to work eventually, right?
The Modern Audience is basically the Great Pumpkin. They swear it's there, though it doesn't exist..but they stomp their feet and cry swearing it is out there.
I saw a TH-cam ad of this playing on Hulu, and OF COURSE, I knew something was up with this. And still glad I stopped going back to Hulu again since Disney got it's hands on it.
All those articles are not for you or me, they're industry papers. They're to fool the activist investors. By the way, Geeky, these new activists don't know what 'good' is. They can only do what they know, and worse, they've been told we're stupid and don't know what what we want. They're right about the former, sadly, (No Way Home...) but the latter is their ego. Also, remember Hollywood has ALWAYS hated their audience, because until recently, Actors were considered lower than beggars, and then when they started making money, they became 'royalty'.
If they didn’t watch lesbian space witches, why would they watch lesbian terrestrial witches?
I’m a lesbian and I just cringe.
They won’t let hot women be lesbians on screen, they have to make us ugly, annoying, and so unlikable. Wtf
Also, only ever lesbians. Where are the dudes gaggin to see some roosters, Disney? Not very progressive of you.
The failure of one, the failure of two,
The failure of maaaaaaaannnnnnnyyyyy!!
Exactly ❗️ The LdHdTv ..movement taking another L.. 😂😂
Remember when Sesbian Lex was supposed to be hot?
All the actors can do is spout " its the gayest show ever" then later whine that nobody watches and everyone is a biggot.
I mean it's the usual song and dance of this is not for you, and then later why did no one watch. When will people learn that openly hating on the biggest segment of the fanbase is stupid.
Not yet apparently.
Don’t forget the part where they repeatedly insult normal people on loop and then start shrieking or whining about normies not watching it because they were told it “wasn’t for them”.
By announcing how "gay" the show is, they're essentially telling us the show isn't for us. Then they'll be surprised when we don't watch it.
💯
Then the blame game, and hate speech.
They should just rename the show PROJECT AGENDA.
EXACTLY
It's funny that those people complained that heterosexuality was shoved on their faces all their lives and they didn't like it but for some reason they think that shoving their "representation" on our faces will be received with open arms and no reactions.
Anytime a tv show, movie, video game, etc., markets itself as being "gay" or having "representation" it's a clear indicator that it's most likely going to suck ass.
This! If the stories and representation were actually good (and the showrunners would stop insulting their audience), most people wouldn't even care if the main character is whatever.
But it never is, because they try to lecture and brainwash instead of entertain because they *are not* entertainers.
They are more like people who make propaganda videos.
It's simple pattern recognition at this point.
No it's not that doesn't indicate anything I think people are way too assuming that for the words right off the bat. You seem to forget that there's nothing wrong with representation or having any gay characters in a video game TV show or movie as long as you do it right and that's the problem show automatically assuming stuff is going to suck is not always going to be correct
@@dalemcdenver7816nobody can brainwash anybody. Maybe days can go back to normal if audience and entertainment stop worrying about culture war altogether
@@animezilla4486 Of course that it can be good, but that's not the trend, and that's the point.
Yes, because this worked out SOOOOOOO well for the last "Gayest Show in a Franchise Ever" earlier this year.
Are we talking about The Afloplyte or Nurse What? Because both series...
@@mrblackjacker32.03 WTF is Nurse What? Never heard of it!
@@skyknight0408 the pejorative naming for Dr Who now that is on Disney production.
@@mrblackjacker32.03 Makes sense, still the first time I've seen somebody call it that, so I was a bit confused without the context.
Ikr? 🤣
Gayer than the Eternals? That had gay married dudes with a kid?
Remember how many lives they saved -_-
Audience/fans: *turn to Marvel* "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!"
Answer: *YES*
And that old man is Feige for real
Marvel: "It's ma'am!"
Until that bankrupt the company like they've been doing with all other brands because they hate everything that's considered Normie
Harvey Weinstein’s personal assistant: I love the young people.
Disney: We want our movies to be less gay.
Also Disney: Watch our gayest Marvel show.
Disney just announced they're raising my rate in October. So we're dropping them. Yep. Nothing good on there anymore and kids don't even watch it anymore.
Nothing of value was lost.
Found one of my old hard drives with a bunch of movies on it and among them are the Disney movies I grew up with. That's the only thing and way I'll be watching Disney anything from now on.
Smart move for your wallet
I disagree X-Men 97 was a good start and I think it definitely wrong about the kid part
The LBGTQ community has a responsibility to support this show financially. Not men that has supported for decades Marvel/Star Wars style entertainment.
They made it very abundantly clear this is not for straight males. Especially white ones the one male character said that very succinctly. So yeah it's up to wine mom's, and the rainbow brigade.
I mean that worked out so well for that movie BROS, I'm sure it'll work out just as well here.
Is Star Wars for gay men? Is that why people are upset?
I've zero responsibility to support this crap, most lgbt roll their eyes at this crap. Pandering isn't a substitute for decent quality well constructed stories n entertainment. For every insufferable virtue signalling sjw there are many more gays u never know about cos we have actual lives n personalities beyond our bedroom preference.
Yeah, they're pandering to 1% of the population which is not smart when marketing.
Why would gay men support this schlock either, when most of Hollywood's ""gay"" characters are just Lesbians 💀
I'm sorta kidding, as I haven't given a 💩about marvel since the first Iron Man.
"Do you know the definition...... of insanity?" - Vaas Montenegro
It's kind of funny to me how each new show/movie is somehow the gayest one since the last one.
from space lesbians to eating ass.. Top tier content
These types have the memory span of a gold fish.
They don't even remember what anything that came before this thing.
It's like laundry detergent or washing-up liquids, every new iteration is "the cleanest clean yet! The whitest whites!" They think this stuff sells, somehow, so they push it as a selling point.
Give them an inch they'll take a mile
It is kind of weird to me that any gay show Disney makes has Witches in it...
_Bros_ ("It's the gayest! How it fail?"), _The Acolyte_ ("It's the gayest! How it fail?"), now _Agatha: Charmed Minus Charm_ ("It's the gayest!") They really ain't too quick at the ole pattern recognition thing, are they?
Why is anyone surprised at this point?
If they're going to make a show that the target audience is for the lgbt community, they have to be transparent about it and accept that it won't have massive appeal, but I have a problem when they bait and switch and forcing their agenda on existing franchises, in addition, I have no problem stating that I prefer not having lgbt content in my targeted entertainment, just like in streaming platforms there are genres that caters to people who chooses to watch them.
Insanity is using anti-marketing over and over, and expecting a different result.
So Acolyte by Lesbian Headlamp wasn't bad enough, they still need to dig deeper into their inhumanity... Oooh Jesus Christ.
I love how they already preaching that this show not for white straight men, where i heard it already?... lmao
Purge the coven that's running Disney+.
@@totomen666 give it a few weeks, it'll be straight white mens fault it bombed
@@totomen666
The fact you heard the one male on the show say that during an interview and all the other women were like unhmmm. And I was like yup, let's make sure the hatred of the biggest audience that likes/liked Marvel is absolutely 100% abundantly clear.
I mean straight males used to be their bread and butter. I honestly don't know what their go to demographic is now but it isn't the "modern audience" even though they think it is.
@@karlthorsten9118Except people like Mr. Slave and Big Gay Al. They don't like Leslye Weinstein. Nobody does.
I love the fact that they’ll blame people not watching it and it’s like it’s not made for them. They say it’s not made for them. You are making something for a small audience accept the numbers.
I mean the one male character literally said in an interview "Marvel was never for just straight white men". Just the fact he needed to say that and everyone then nodded and went unhmmm could not have been a better deterrent for most of the audience.
Oh yes they are setting up their defenses now for why this show fell right on it's face.
@@JohnDoe-wq5euseriously we need to knock it off with this whole skin color crap
If gay ppl can watch str8 shows, what stops str8 ppl from watching gay shows if not their bigotry?
Everytime I hear you say "all the bigots" I get the tune to "All the Single Ladies" going though my head.
I do find it interesting though that we now have two shows produced by the same company where witchs=lesbians.... Disney what are you trying to say?
@@adamjones4989
It should be an absolute path to success but of course it won't be because it's not for the biggest audience, but the "modern audience".
🎶 "All the lonely bigots, all the lonely bigots" 🎶
the humiliation ritual continues.
It’s all about punishing us….they don’t care if they don’t make money
@colonelblars9126 Some people are into that kind of thing. Unfortunately, it doesn't make for good television. 🤔
I solemnly swear to become immeasurably more toxic than the mainstream thinks I am.
Let me guess. Lesbian Space witches? What will they think of next?
Forest lesbian witches of course
Lesbian witches have been a thing in horror movies since the '70s and it's been done so much it's a tired cliche at this point. They're going to have to have something more than 'it's gay!' to draw viewers to this.
@@MSinistrari
Well that's all they've got, they don't have any talent because they kicked all those people out. All they can do now is double down and blame the bigots even though no one's stopping anyone from watching this and yet no one will.
Lesbian Cowgirl Witches!
Lesbian Courtroom Witches!
Lesbian Karate Witches!
Lesbian Avocado Toast Eating Witches!
They really don't learn that this doesn't put butts in seats.
they don't care
I don't think they want seats in their butts
@@gryphonofmight They will when this has massive consequences to their bottom line.
They want butts, alright. But not in seats 💀
Streaming show from the past administration
Gay? They don't look happy to me. Did you maybe mean the most lesbian?
Yeah the i know right. The gayest? Theres only 1 guy (and his the stereotypical cliche effeminate gay guy) the others are all lesbians?
Yeah I would definitely say most lesbian, but not in a fun enjoyable way in an angry hateful way. It's all about tolerance but not tolerance to people they hate.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We'd probably have more of a gay old time watching sad porn like A Monster Calls.
Inside out 2s success-Am I a joke to you?
It’s like Disney wants to lose money but doesn’t wanna lose money at the same time 😂
Inside Out 2 and Deadpool & Wolverine. Disney’s biggest hits in how long and now they’re going back to stuff no one asked for. That's so Disney for you.
It was a regretful sucess that they never forgave
I don't think it's so much that Disney is releasing this show because they WANT to and are squandering the successes they got with Inside Out 2 and Deadpool and Wolverine.
This show is being released for one reason and one reason only. Contractual obligations.
@@LunaMane
Which makes the fact that they've done a premiere party and stuff for it all the more sad and pathetic.
I have no doubt the way they built this up when it flops (and it will flop) they are going to yet again blame the usual people for not liking their slop. Lather. rinse. repeat.
Never change Disney...Never. Your demise can not come quickly enough.
The fact that hasn't come yet is a miracle honestly. These last two successes will save them a little bit longer.
That's likely never going to happen maybe we need to stop with the hit and just start with the fixing and
Demand they go more gay……. I’m not gonna stop until Mickey sucks Goofys junk
They shoulda called it " Agatha Who Cares".
"Agatha, Gay all along."
My choice.
If the show is good, I'll watch it
Anti-marketing all along.
I literally used to work at a comic shop and had never heard of this character.
@@spartanhawk7637New character?
Or perhaps It was just Agatha Sometimes/Never.
Its not just middle America, the rest of the world isn't California either.
Nope… I’m out…
Agatha isn’t even a major character.
Don’t see why Disney bothered.
It’s Marvel Universe and not Hocus Pocus Universe despite appearances. 😂
They needed Series for Disney+ and the Song was liked
@@keyos4398the song doesn't justify a series, a cutscene maybe
this has been in production for a few years and it was too late to cancel, so might as well drop it off and cancel it and move on.
@@byronrush9802 yeah i dont understand Disneys logic aswell
She was a huge meme at the time. She was universally liked as a villain. But somehow, Disney execs thought a series based around her would be a hit. Truly a throw spaghetti on the wall brain fart.
btw, the flaming castle is one of most clever designs I’ve ever seen, it reminds me of my art professor going on about drawing lines with the eraser, great use of negative space
The thing that absolutely guaranteed that a lot of people will never ever watch this show was an interview with a bunch of the cast including "teen" who just had to say "Marvel was never just for white straight men". Which is not only an incredibly disingenuous and stupid thing to say but apart from the white part it's absolutely true. Marvel has always been for straight males predominantly. As true for the comics as it is for the movies. This pivot they tried to make has failed miserably and the harder they try to continue to pivot the more they continue to fail.
You can't just take a predominantly male anything and make it for women by changing a bunch of fundamental things about it. That's not how it works.
And we know for a fact it doesn't work the other way either you can't take a predominantly female-centric thing and try to make it for males. Things just don't work that way. You can make things that both can enjoy but when you try to do this stuff where you make it into a divisive thing which they definitely did and also of course quadruple down on all the "gay stuff" first and foremost you know it's going to turn out badly.
When something had an established fan base for decades, any change that went against what fundamentally made it popular will be rejected full stop.
For sake of argument, let's agree w/ Dizney's current POV regarding "representation" (i.e. people can ONLY ever identify w/ characters who share their *exact* same demographic traits) If this theory is correct, it makes $$$ sense to always pick the largest demo.
So which group is larger.. straight white males black lesbians?
I'm glad they warn early now. Would hate to be surprised with that after paying to watch.
R2 D2 said it first. They just bleeped it
Agony All Along
wow neon you are on a roll this episode
This will be the Madame Web of TV shows. With added gayness 🤣🤣🤣
Agatha is Alone All Along.
These people are brilliant!! This marketing worked very well for the Acolyte!!
I don't care about trans or gay culture. I think anyone who thinks I should is weird and mentally unstable. I'm pretty comfortable with this position and will maintain it. I'm also happy with vendors who provide shows like this going broke because I don't care. Everyone wins. Isn't real life fun?
Nobody is winning anything everybody's going to end up losing
After Deadpool, who cares what cusswords are said on a Disney franchise?
Also in Andor.
More power to them, keep running at that wall
as somone on the rainbow I just want to say I had more fun listening to yall say "eat ass" then the actual show idea.
Made for .1% of the population
If even that, and then you have to find people that will also actually buy Disney+ to watch this. I'm willing to bet the few people that might have actually watched this will probably do so on the high seas. Call it a hunch.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu Inside OUt 2 and Wizards Beyond Waverly Place should be draws to Disney+ though.
Trying to work out why I should 1) CARE 2) OPEN MY WALLET 3) TALK OR GIVE ANY NOTICE TO MAINSTREAM MEDIA????
Will I suddenly combust? Will the world stop turning? No, all you need is food on the table and a roof over your head: entertainment is take or leave any day of the week and society will not crumble because it does. Just ignore it and it will go away, don’t fan the flames they try to send your way to drum up attention.
Unfortunately it's never going to STOP until Americans start to revolt
Gayest yet, remember that. Disney will keep going further in their extremism until everything's burnt to ash.
I got an ad for Agatha😂
You two are such a dynamic duo. the solo content is also peak, but you both have great points and play off each other so well
12:50 not sure if this answers Kneon's question, but there is a piece, a canon for 3 voices, in existence whose title from German translates to, "Lick my arse right well and clean."
DAILY DOSE OF DISMAL DISNEY!!!!!!!
Modern audience hmmmm oh wait I think I hear crickets. Disney is starting to look like the French revolution let them eat cake the rat says er Bob says.
Well we know it's cancelled by the first episode.
I'm pretty sure it's already a done deal.
I highly doubt anyone was clamoring for the show directly after
Wandavision and now the show is years too late. This is just something they've got to pump out like echo.
Although they're actually releasing this over multiple weeks so maybe not exactly.
Deadpool and Wolverine is going save mcu again all along.
All I can hear now are the rabbits from the magicians saying "EAT MY ASS!!!" 😂😂😂😂😂
As in Bart Simpson where he says “Eat My Shorts”.
I'm sure the MASSIVE LGBTQ community will subscribe to Disney+ just to watch this Marvel show, right? 😏
yes, all of us gays will be tuning into the show and making it huge! y'all bigots just want to be a bitch 24/7 and be close minded!
Oh for sure, they always do I mean these wouldn't be the kind of people to make hollow virtue signaling on social media and then not actually follow through right?! I mean it's not like the acolyte that everyone kept hyping up and then no one actually watched so it was canceled. Nope, that would never happen people aren't that disingenuous.
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Nope they won't, ur thinking of a tiny loud minority. Most in the lgbt are more bored with this crap than str8s
If they watch it, they're going to pirate it.
It turns out eh gender Pretenders dont watch Tv.. and the Gay Men and Women like Stright Romance in fiction 7 hate Groomers like anyone normal & on Race Everyones backs up whe you say its not for some other race its dispicable to NORMAL people Who'd have funk it
Serves people right if they are still watching Marvel after all these years since Endgame.
I have to tell you I'm so sick of the sinfield nastiness that is being pushed on us 24/7.
I truly wish we could go back to some level of wholesomeness
there is only one thing we can all do with these people/company - don't spend money on them. they do not care about what we want/think.
Yea just ignore em, you got a million other things your money is better spent on, and even if you absolutely want to see their stuff, sail the 7 seas and say aaaargh me fellow pirates 😁
Never financially support people who actively make it clear they hate you.
I think the "modern audience" is harder to find then a Tasmanian Tiger.
One actually existed
Finding the Loch Ness Monster is more likely
It's like I always say. Just cuz they come out with one decent movie/show they'll always return to form. No Way Home, Andor, Deadpool and Wolverine, whatever it is just a glitch (or Sony) in their schedule
Yeah I really do feel deep sympathy for people that want to actually believe that they'll somehow change their ways and correct course. They're just going to keep doubling down or try harder to hide what they're doing. The problem is most of them are absolute talentless hacks that's why it's been so obvious what the agenda is and how they're pushing it. If these people were any good it would be subliminal it would be woven deep within these shows in a way that you would never see unless you were really looking for it. But yeah I don't for a moment believe they're changing anything those were just a brief respite from the usual crap.
Then it will be back to the usual garbage filled to the brim with propaganda and ideology.
And some people think Fegie wants to turn things around. Some one at marvel saw the Acolyte and thought we need some of that. We need lesbian witches in our show. Yeah Fegie really wants to turn things around
Dead
On
Arrival
I mean this thing was dead well before it ever showed up. 3 years too late at least.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu Didn't they initially want to cancel it?
Wait for it..............🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't have Disney Plus.
I've never touched it.
If I absolutely have to lower myself to watching one of these shows I wouldn't pay for it.
I have Disney plus and I don't like anybody else I can still tell you that I do watch some old shows and some new ones I really don't watch the Marvel TV shows
I'm sorry to hear about that😢
This show is outdated by like 3 years already 😂
13:09
Yes Kneon, it's called "I eat ahh" by Filthy Frank.
"Nnnnnnyyyyyeeeeeessssss"- salamander man
watched the first two episodes, had some odd scenes but i'm mildly intrigued could go either way still
Another AAA dead on arrival.
You need more votes.
And there blows the Deadpool 3 movie money
Reminder that it was some random executive "excited" for Agatha, despite not knowing who Agatha even was in the comics, that inspired Russell T. Davies to awkwardly jam Sutekh into the new gay Doctor Who.
These people are out of touch with humanity, and have zero idea what normal people want to watch.
"Hmm. What if we ONLY made shows about 'gay witches' from here on out?" - recent Dizney strategy meeting
I really hate the erasure of Gen-X and how gay didn’t matter for a golden few years until it was co-opted by the rest of the alphabet.
You want “gay”?
Buffy.
Xena.
Fight Club. (About being gay & told by women to hide your masculinity.)
Zorro the Gay Blade.
No problems with Elton John, Freddie Mercury, Bert & Ernie, etc…
Wasn’t an issue until 5 minutes ago.
Fight club is a really interesting one because that guy was still clearly deep in the closet when he wrote that book.
I've heard a lot of theories and it makes a lot more sense when you know who the author is.
Zorro is gay?
@@briana8088 no, his long lost brother is.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu have you read the book?
He’s rebelling against the version of “Gay” that 90’s women wanted all gay men to be.
Because women don’t think a “masculine” man can be gay.
@JohnDoe-wq5eu so if your gay, youcannot write straight characters?
Agatha, Agatha... Agatha who?? that's the sentiment most share about the D-list character.
Agathon’t give a 🤬 all along 😂
This video apparently caused me to get an ad for the show.
Thanks Kneon 😂
Let Disney make every single show they want about whatever subject they want the same for every single streaming service, network television or movie production company I just do not care and no longer want to be angry. I just ask they stop calling me names and blaming me for their movies and how failing. I have watched one movie this year and no shows outside of a few animes.
Disney subscribes to the “bang your head into a brick wall until the wall breaks” school of thought for overcoming obstacles.
How is it possible I'll have to see the pilot I hope I can find it on TH-cam .....Disney ain't getting a dime from me until they get there act together
Disney has nothing to worry about. The modern audience will watch this just like they watched Acolyte.
I'm looking forward to The Wild Robot later this month.
So excited😍
I'm still relatively new to the channel, but this seemed like the most unhinged episode I've listen to so far. Not Disparu unhinged, but Clownfish unhinged. I enjoyed it, thank you.
You know Marvel; it's chew gum and kick ass, not chew ass and kick gum? Right? No, OK.....
I don’t understand why this even became a thing - it’s completely disgusting and I have no problem judging people for doing it. It’s gross, unsanitary, and potentially dangerous
The show? Or the eating ass part?
Howdy Geeky! Hi Kneon.
Remember, homosexuality is *"not"* a fetish
Uhh,, Yes it is
@@Vadim-Goekeheterosexuality is a fetish then 😂😂😂😂
It can now join "The Acolyte" in the same grave...
Finally! The Wandavision Drag Brunch demographic is being catered to. Too long they've been ignored!
Those Agatha stars and media are doing a great job in marketing the show for modern audience. Just that those modern audience don't exist.
Agatha was in a series about a middle aged fuck bunny from what I remember
The Acolyte was touted as "the gayest Star Wars ever", and it did miserably and was axed after one season. So some idiot on the Marvel end of Disney, decided to try and create their own gayest show ever. Why would anyone think that's a good idea after the other attempt failed? Who the heck green lights this garbage?
Just waiting for someone to get AI to generate "In the mood to Eat Ass", complete with black and white USO mtv
Outside of twitter even gay people don't really care about how gay your show is. Like everyone else they just care if the show is entertaining.
I blame it on them putting on the franchise where the main audience are the people who dislike reading/watching about gay romance. Straight Man usually dislike gay romance. Gay man who enjoy bl i heard also didnt care about lesbian romance either. The people who enjoy (and fetishizing) gay romance are mostly woman. They think by pushing gay romance down their throat is just going to make them more respectful toward LGBT but i found out it just make them into a homophobe. So it kinda backfired. Ton of people dislike it if their gay character turned straight (or even Bi sometimes). Same goes with the audience who love their straight character.
Since they bought Marvel to appeal to Men, this probably wasn’t the best decision to green light.
Suddenly all the queerdos have forgotten about acolyte.
The main problem is still they have no good writers. Many of these shows are over all boring and make no sense. Writers forget the story and make a new one. Yes the characters mention every 5 seconds they are gay are annoying. And the agenda is annoying but without that is still not good and that's the problem.-
Yep, during "The Purge" many people with actual talent were thrown out and like I have constantly heard they didn't even bother to keep them around long enough to train these morons.
So you have a bunch of stupid people with no talent that haven't been trained at all, don't know nothing about nothing and are constantly put onto projects way above their heads. Until Disney (and everyone else) stops hiring people based on how they identify or how they look and not on their actual ability and talents we are going to continue down this rabbit hole forever. It's fine with me I can watch them continue to burn as long as it takes. The money has to run out eventually.
I applaud how stunning and brave they are being.
In fact, they should double down and go even more gay.
It should not only be the most gay thing yet, it needs to be the most gay thing actually possible.
Only then will the Modern Audience finally show up to pay for it.
The reason the Acolyte failed was because the lesbian space witches weren't gay enough.
If you gay it, the woke will come.
Seriously, their plan has to work eventually, right?
The Modern Audience is basically the Great Pumpkin. They swear it's there, though it doesn't exist..but they stomp their feet and cry swearing it is out there.
Disney once again hasn't learned a damn thing and so we will remind them once again why the wages of woke is broke.
They really don't care what people say about wolf because as far as I'm concerned woke is being overused way too much just like words such as racist
Not watching all along
I saw a TH-cam ad of this playing on Hulu, and OF COURSE, I knew something was up with this. And still glad I stopped going back to Hulu again since Disney got it's hands on it.
All those articles are not for you or me, they're industry papers. They're to fool the activist investors. By the way, Geeky, these new activists don't know what 'good' is. They can only do what they know, and worse, they've been told we're stupid and don't know what what we want. They're right about the former, sadly, (No Way Home...) but the latter is their ego. Also, remember Hollywood has ALWAYS hated their audience, because until recently, Actors were considered lower than beggars, and then when they started making money, they became 'royalty'.
Disney wil NEVER change until management does. End of story. 🙄