The only character portrayed as gay is the male one. It is only one person. This show is nothing like the Acolyte. It is on a different level, it feels like a normal entertaining show based on witchcraft.
Only it is nothing like you just described. It has no agenda or message and the quality is a massive improvement on other shows. It is a good, old fashion show and I am hooked.
@@mattstanford9673 It will be the gayest show if they actually have a gay character persue a love interest throughout the story but they just want the one character who did the one thing one time that ultimately didn't matter and want praise for it
not really, this was made before that (since we've had the trailers for a while), so in all fairness, they''ll hopefully learn from that's success. Mind you I'm a pessimistic arse so I'm doubtful myself
@@Garry_Combineto be fair, they have a lot of projects still in the works from Cap Falcon to Snow White, along with Park maintenance and construction, that money likely went to something, even potential debt and Hulu deal, I may not be a financier, but by the looks of it, it ain't necessary wrong
I love that you both are willing to give your honest takes and say that you liked or disliked something you watched, even when you know that it'll annoy people who are invested in seeing a project succeed or fail. Thanks for all your videos!
It's kind of ironic that the success of Disney Plus started with "The Mandalorian" and "Wanda/Vision" and now their downfall ends with "The Mandalorian" and "Vision". The circle of failure is almost complete.
Every single time you see Disney it's like the Animaniacs song "Just the Same Old Heroine" without anything to defend. In that song they poked fun at The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Pocahontas, and Beauty and the Beast. The princesses had some traits to make them unique at the time. Ariel saves the prince more than he saves her, Jasmine has some say in her love life despite her royal duties, Pocahontas tries to stop a war, and Belle gets Beast to stop being selfish. Now it's the same quirky girl ad nauseum.
Ghostbusters 2016 didn't need to exist. The fact it's just Rule 63 Ghostbusters was just PART of the reason it didn't need to exist. It was that original team - Venkman, Egon, Winston, and Ray - that made that movie what it was. They were going to capture that magic again.
im not sure why ppl are saying this is worse than Acolyte, This is really dark and honestly im kinda of pulled in so far, the acting was way way better, especially the first half of the first episode when you realize that she was using all the worst sterotypes of a cop in a bad show, was very well done, but i wouldnt say at least so far this was woke. I also think Billy is coming out and cutting off this bullshit at the start, Yer im gay but its not important or the whole of my character.
Gary from nerdrotic pointed out that the show had 5 star review before the first episode was out, and if they had early access then they would have had the review embargo. That means....fake 5 star reviews🤣
Not all products are for everyone, that is understandable, what I don't understand is how companies have gone out of their way to cater to an audience that would have never bought their products. Also I am not giving any Disney product a chance until Bob I get is out of the picture. With him still in charge all this "course correct" could well be only a trick to fool the investors to look away and then return to do the same crap. It also doesn't Garner them any points when their staff and higher ups all of the same mind.
Here's an idea: **Talk about the plot, not about a character('s') level of gayness!** Something that has literally no impact on plot shouldn't be the running point on all media reporting.
Totally agree. It’s also going to be disappointing to people who want to see the “gayest Marvel show” or whatever because that’s not really what the show is about. It just happens to have a gay character… so… how is it the gayest show ever? Nobody is going to be satisfied from this marketing.
That's a tall order, since the plot so far has been: Ep1: Remember Wandavision? Remember True Detective? Ep2: Remember Shitt's Creek? Remember Hocus Pocus?
Yup, I personally like gay subcontent in my media, but I don't want it to be overbearing. Just give me a nice gay romantic subplot I can cheer for while the rest of the movie happens along side it. Disney wants all the recognition of having a gay story with no interest in forwarding a gay plot point in the movie. Netflix uploaded Nimona for free on TH-cam and Disney passed it up. The blueprint is right there to do it very well
If for other shows yes they are narrow minded. But for this show how it's narrow mind? Agatha isn't a well-known character or even have fans till recent years being remade. Billy already gay? And the other witches, you didn't even know who they are without reading comic, they still minor characters in their own series. Writing is still decent, still wait out for the final eps to see the final result. Reacting with interview phrase like gayest Marvel show only turning this into hating.
@horizonblack8351 Because people are sick of being forced to watch performative gays in every show. We have gay friends, they aren't like that at all. If you can tell their gay, you messed it up. I've known people for years and did t know they were gay, that's normal. Why should it even be a topic of discussion. Making it obvious is just propaganda towards children and that's just wrong. Growing up is confusing enough, they don't need this crap shoved at them at every source of media.
It's weird that the more they push for DEI the more samey and predictable their content gets. Weird. Wasn't that a key benefit of diversity? It's almost like DEI isn't real diversity and people shouldn't defend it.
I'm not really knowledgeable when it comes to the comics, but is this just another Madam Web type spectacle? They give an obscure/supporting character created solely to prop up another hero their own movie or show?
In a time of numerous (inauthentic) corporate apologies, Disney hasn't even done that for their errors and years of blaming fans for their failures. I'd say that's a big reason some people want anything and everything Disney to fail.
There is room in the world for gay themed films. However, they should not completely co-opt or push aside non-gay main stream entertainment as the majority of people have little-to-no interest and not relate to it. When you shove your unwanted gay-cantered message into peoples' faces on repeat for a decade or more, they are going to eventually resent you, your message and anything related to it. And guess what? We're pretty close if not already at that point. Time to ease up.
Agreed, but this show doesn’t really do that at all, so far. So, I don’t understand why they marketed it that way. There’s a gay teen in it and that’s pretty much it.
@@nicholasanderson7316 That's fair enough but at this stage people are a little triggered because they know it's artificial and part of an agenda and they just want a break from it.
This show is for wine drinking single cat moms. The problem with that is, they're not! interested in watching things, supposedly based on comic books. Your original fan base, isn't interested in Agatha harkness. Nobody was asking, for a show based on a character, nobody gives a sh*t about.
I know what fantasy books sell to that demo, and they are overwhelmingly about straight women and straight very hot usually magical men. So if you want to appeal to them, do an ACOTAR series or something. But they just wanted to make this show, target audience be damned.
@@MakerInMotion yes, however the ppl behind guardians of the galaxy, were actually good at their jobs. They had creative ppl working on the movie. Actors ppl like. Also the cast weren't going out of their way, to lie and accuse fans of being ists and phobes.
“It’s the gayest marvel show ever.” But you keep forgetting the part that Kathryn Hahn said “It better be, if it’s not that’s not what I signed up for.” That line right there makes you wrong for watching the show. Not sorry.
Well I don't rely on rotten tomatoes to tell me if something is good or bad. My eyes and ears take in the data, my brain processes it, and a decision is reached at that point.
This could have been a golden opportunity to bring in some dark characters like Ghost Rider, Morbius and Blade. Maybe Man Thing shows up. But then again I'm not the modern audience.
Disney needs to listen to Kneon and Geeky Sparkles! If Disney did, Disney would have made hundreds of millions of dollars -- instead of losing hundreds of millions! Geeky criticizes Disney because she loved Disney and wants Disney to return to form.
Personally I could care less if the show is good or bad. I was out on this show when Marvel started going down hill. Once they started to say how its the gayest Marvel show ever, then I was REALLY out.
The fear with course correct is that they can do it again if giving them a chance to mend their ways as well as they showed their true colors regardless so it makes the course correct look more disingenuous because they think they are safe for now.
I don't care if it's good, I'm not watching it. And besides. Nearly every Disney+ show starts good. They have actual writers and directors (if you want to call them that, this cast has only done Wandavision and Black Widow). But they hire bigger talents to start the show and then end the show. The entire middle part of the season is useoess filler garbage, written by DEI activists with literally 0 writing credits. Look it up. It's the same formula they use on every show. Guarantee this show falls off the rails in the next few episodes.
When a Show starts, people can have their head canon to fix smaller plot holes. But, as longer a show goes, the possibility of "fixing" by head canon get smaller and smaller.
Disney needs to really rang in these actors when there with the media cause the interviews that they've done will turn people off not cause there bigots but cause people will think this show is trying to preach at them. I won't watch it cause I don't care I didn't care about Wanda Vision and this show is in my opinion 3 years late to that roaring success.
I love the ghostbusters series, but I hated/disliked the 2016 movie. The reason I hates was not because they were all women, but because it felt like they were trying to be funny and that just does not work for me. The movie just felt to forced, and just did not have the charm of the series before it. I think it would have done better if they mixed the members like they did with the new releases, which i find the new generation ones pretty good. Still love the original movie the most. RIP Harold Ramis, you are missed.
I will never forgive Disney for what they have done to Star Wars and how they have let the employees express how much they hold me in disdain. No amount of "course correcting" is genuine without an actual apology, and we all know that is never happening.
Disney needs to stop being damn inconsistent give good quality content instead you one or two. It will take 4 years to trust Disney again. Sick of them attacking fans and how inconsistent.
It makes no difference to me I don't have Disney+ . As for the character Agatha, who is she? I've read lots of Marvel comics but I've never heard of this character?
This show is Love and Thunder 2.0. Marvel made a rookie mistake. They took a character who stood out in a certain project and made them the main star. Agatha is on par with Korg. She’s overstayed her welcome.
I wonder if the “Marvel Television” imprint is the MCU’s way of distancing itself from any of the events of the movies? Doing an “Elseworlds” without admitting it is. The last time the movies and tv tied together was Deadpool & Wolverine. A movie nether Iger or Fiege wanted and only happened during Chapek’s chairmanship and he was rewarded by being fired. I get the feeling this show, Ironheart, and Daredevil will be memory holed if not by the studio, then definitely the audience.
Friz Freleng once said that he made the Looney Tunes' shorts for themselves, (Not strictly for children) but they were still made for 'the general audience'.
@@remymorgan9630 D&W shows that giving fans what they want gets them money This Agatha show shows they care more about identity politics than making money
1. A comic book show not for comic book fans. 2. DEI characters. 3. Toxic marketing strategy. 4. Indie reviewers like Critical Drinker say it's bad. That's 4 *hard* strikes against this show. It's going to bomb and it deserves to (and frankly #1 is all it should take).
On rotten Tomatoes there was a lot of 5 stars viewers scores days before the show even aired so either the show got leaked or fake scores got put on a site that's got caught fudging scores and changing rules for Disney before (Captain Marvel).
His character in the comics is gay. It was a clue to who he actually is. That being said, if the first thing you use to describe yourself is your sexuality, then you have a lot of soul searching to do
I don't care if it's even meh in quality. Disney isn't going to learn till it hurts them in the wallet. That won't happen if we keep giving them money.
I actually view this as a net positive because there for a while Amandla thought that she was going to be the Christ on the cross and start a new woke religion against everybody that she lumped into her little tirade. This proves that the news media wants and has control over their own agenda, leaving the Acolyte in the dust.😂😂😂
FFS. We've only seen two episodes so far. And they were good episodes. I know some men (and some women) have an issue with female lead programs, especially if that show is perceived to be woke (whatever that means). I'm a straight male, in my 50s, who enjoys a good story. That's all i want, a good story with good characters. Fellow men, you too can enjoy a good story, with gay characters and your masculinity will remain intact.
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Disney Channel: This show is only made for tween girls.
Audience: (runs away)
Disney Channel: WAIT! COME BACK! THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT!
Too laaate!!
The audience is surprisingly enjoying it so far at least.
I love how they can fully embrace the idea of genre fatigue, but not Lesbian Witch fatigue.
Because they don't care about genresl, or know how to make them very well.
When the Acolyte crashed and burned this Agatha plane was already in the air...
I'm sure they will corner the entire market of lesbians who like bad television.
Thise were one dimensional ideologues written to make the Jedi look bad. These's witches are depicted as hit messes from the get go.
The only character portrayed as gay is the male one. It is only one person. This show is nothing like the Acolyte. It is on a different level, it feels like a normal entertaining show based on witchcraft.
Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm: "We don’t want you as a customer."
Me: "I accept your terms."
then stop ciomplaing that their not making content for you. just walk away.
Ironically Disney TVA does. They just barely have any merchandise
@@dragonwatterhe just said that. Your comment is pointless. Stop trying to shut people down weirdo.
@@dragonwatter why are you even here?
@@dragonwatter Yesh why are you here?
How about instead of a Daily Dose of Dismal Disney for marvel shows, how about a “Miserable Morsel of Mundane Marvel”?
Nice alliteration
Moribund Marvel
Change it to "Mediocre Marvel" and you've got a deal.
Morbid Marvel is more like it...
Malodorous Marvel.
Mangy Marvel.
Mangled Marvel.
Massacred Marvel.
Mangled is my favorite, it really describes Disney Marvel perfectly.
Life is too short to spend time watching something that is "not terrible".
Yup, that's where I'm at these days.
Thanks, Tom. @@TheDocLamkin
So you would rather watch something terrible then? 😂
Agreed
@@RoyCyberPunk Are you kidding? 'Troll 2' is one of my favorite, uh, "films". AAA is just kind of forgettable. I'd rank it between Acolyte and Ahsoka.
They successfully made the word Gay = Lame/Cringe all over again.
It has been always like that 😂😂
I miss when the word used to mean happy.
The world is healing.
@@wesmcinerny4524what word would they corrupt nxt?
I was just thinking that too!
Mainstream media: "Which franchise has the gayest show? MCU or Star Wars?"
Disney: "Yes!"
And then the next show is "the gayest," until the NEXT one.
Ring of Power is probably gayer.
Only it is nothing like you just described. It has no agenda or message and the quality is a massive improvement on other shows.
It is a good, old fashion show and I am hooked.
@@mattstanford9673 It will be the gayest show if they actually have a gay character persue a love interest throughout the story but they just want the one character who did the one thing one time that ultimately didn't matter and want praise for it
@clownofthetimes6727 Nice try, shill. Still not watching the gayest show ever.
Even gay people were put-off by the quote. They can't all be bigots.
I'm not a middle aged woman with an impending drinking problem, so it wasn't made for me; hard pass.
So, you're a gamer dependent on weed and porn?
@@helenablavatsky9136 KWEL
@@helenablavatsky9136 Is that supposed to be a negative? Hey, at least he's not out blowing millions of dollars on pet issues.
@@moresnacksplease526 Who spends millions of dollars on a pet?
@@michaels.starnes194 Thanks, Cartman!
And now all the money they made from Deadpool and Wolverine is gonna go down the drain.
not really, this was made before that (since we've had the trailers for a while), so in all fairness, they''ll hopefully learn from that's success. Mind you I'm a pessimistic arse so I'm doubtful myself
@@Garry_Combineto be fair, they have a lot of projects still in the works from Cap Falcon to Snow White, along with Park maintenance and construction, that money likely went to something, even potential debt and Hulu deal, I may not be a financier, but by the looks of it, it ain't necessary wrong
I think it was spent b4 the movie got released tbf
@@Trohl- Good thing Ryan made sure everyone got paid up front.
That was inevitable
Being gay doesn't make you interesting. Being interesting makes you interesting.
Being gay is normal
Exactly.
Lol, I thought you were going to say being interesting makes you gay.
@@chuckchan4127statistically no
@@shocktnc In actuality, yes. No one cares if you're gay.
Acolyte All Along?
I stand corrected about them learning the wrong lesson from Deadpool and Wolverine. Apparently just "learning" was too high an expectation.
Disney's BACK at it Again! Put a Chick in it, and make it LAME and GAY!! They just can't RESIST!
I love that you both are willing to give your honest takes and say that you liked or disliked something you watched, even when you know that it'll annoy people who are invested in seeing a project succeed or fail. Thanks for all your videos!
"I don't care!" - Deputy Marshal Samuel Gerard "The Fugitive"
#REELSHIFT
I often say this to people at work using the same volume and inflections Tommy Lee did in the movie.
#REELSHIFT
Now that's a good movie! It wasn't only that one actor that talked about how gay the show is. The entire cast said it's the gayest Marvel show ever.
I dont think ppl care enough to review bomb this...
It's kind of ironic that the success of Disney Plus started with "The Mandalorian" and "Wanda/Vision" and now their downfall ends with "The Mandalorian" and "Vision". The circle of failure is almost complete.
Remember folks. Things can always get worse
Anti marketing for the anti entertainment era
Despite it not using too much CGI, I still won't bother with it.
Every single time you see Disney it's like the Animaniacs song "Just the Same Old Heroine" without anything to defend. In that song they poked fun at The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Pocahontas, and Beauty and the Beast. The princesses had some traits to make them unique at the time. Ariel saves the prince more than he saves her, Jasmine has some say in her love life despite her royal duties, Pocahontas tries to stop a war, and Belle gets Beast to stop being selfish. Now it's the same quirky girl ad nauseum.
Ghostbusters 2016 didn't need to exist. The fact it's just Rule 63 Ghostbusters was just PART of the reason it didn't need to exist. It was that original team - Venkman, Egon, Winston, and Ray - that made that movie what it was. They were going to capture that magic again.
It did give us a really good review done by Mr Plinkett though. It was hilarious. 😂
@@mirceazaharia2094 "Stop dancing!! STOP DANCING!!"
I was laughing so hard in that movie 😂😂😂
It's got an 80% for critics and 80% for audience. How are those bad?
If I'm gonna watch a show about a bunch of old ladies I'd much rather watch some Golden Girls honestly.
they had episode about gay people to. hell i am 90 percent certain that dorthies actress was actually a lesbian.
@@dragonwatter they weren't weird about it. It wasn't their personality
"Thank you for being a friend."
im not sure why ppl are saying this is worse than Acolyte, This is really dark and honestly im kinda of pulled in so far, the acting was way way better, especially the first half of the first episode when you realize that she was using all the worst sterotypes of a cop in a bad show, was very well done, but i wouldnt say at least so far this was woke. I also think Billy is coming out and cutting off this bullshit at the start, Yer im gay but its not important or the whole of my character.
Can't wait to see Zach make a bunch of community posts about the show being great and TH-camrs ruining it.
Gary from nerdrotic pointed out that the show had 5 star review before the first episode was out, and if they had early access then they would have had the review embargo. That means....fake 5 star reviews🤣
The only thing I know about Agatha Harkness is that she was a nanny for the Fantastic Four.
Same, here.
Apparently, she has as much in common with her comic book counterpart as Sony's Madame Web.
She was also old not a middle aged wine mom.
This isn't her. This is the equivalent of casting John Lovitz as Michelle Pfeiffer s character in Dangerous Minds and saying they are the same.
@@dbsommers1As Jay Sherman would say, 'It Stinks'.
It was Atrocious All Along.
Not all products are for everyone, that is understandable, what I don't understand is how companies have gone out of their way to cater to an audience that would have never bought their products.
Also I am not giving any Disney product a chance until Bob I get is out of the picture. With him still in charge all this "course correct" could well be only a trick to fool the investors to look away and then return to do the same crap. It also doesn't Garner them any points when their staff and higher ups all of the same mind.
Not jumping on the bandwagon as I think for myself I Love Agatha All Along! What a fun Show!
Facts these goofies just complain all day
If the mainstream media says it's doing great then it's the opposite of what is happening
If it isn't successful you think that mean that the phantom modern audience just does not exist.
Here's an idea: **Talk about the plot, not about a character('s') level of gayness!** Something that has literally no impact on plot shouldn't be the running point on all media reporting.
Totally agree. It’s also going to be disappointing to people who want to see the “gayest Marvel show” or whatever because that’s not really what the show is about. It just happens to have a gay character… so… how is it the gayest show ever? Nobody is going to be satisfied from this marketing.
Th Cesarr
The Billy character is literally gay in the comics lol
That's a tall order, since the plot so far has been:
Ep1: Remember Wandavision? Remember True Detective?
Ep2: Remember Shitt's Creek? Remember Hocus Pocus?
Yup, I personally like gay subcontent in my media, but I don't want it to be overbearing. Just give me a nice gay romantic subplot I can cheer for while the rest of the movie happens along side it. Disney wants all the recognition of having a gay story with no interest in forwarding a gay plot point in the movie. Netflix uploaded Nimona for free on TH-cam and Disney passed it up. The blueprint is right there to do it very well
These writers are so narrow minded. They literally think making any character gay is somehow automatically writes its own character development.
journos or show writers, cause him being gay really is a minor part of it but actually makes sense with him wanting to be a witch.
@@alexdavis-mann8513 a male witch is called a Warlock or Wizard. But since he identifies as a sissy male. I guess your right.
Him being gay is barely mentioned, and definitely not a major part of his character. It fits in with it, but it's not a plot point.
If for other shows yes they are narrow minded. But for this show how it's narrow mind? Agatha isn't a well-known character or even have fans till recent years being remade. Billy already gay? And the other witches, you didn't even know who they are without reading comic, they still minor characters in their own series. Writing is still decent, still wait out for the final eps to see the final result. Reacting with interview phrase like gayest Marvel show only turning this into hating.
@horizonblack8351 Because people are sick of being forced to watch performative gays in every show. We have gay friends, they aren't like that at all. If you can tell their gay, you messed it up. I've known people for years and did t know they were gay, that's normal. Why should it even be a topic of discussion. Making it obvious is just propaganda towards children and that's just wrong. Growing up is confusing enough, they don't need this crap shoved at them at every source of media.
My favorite part is when they think it's somehow my fault it failed.
The acolyte of mcu
Clickbait headlines is all the media has left.
If I had a quarter for every Disney show about lesbian witches, I would have two quarters, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
And both were absolute trash.
and in succession.
In the same year, just months apart.
In 2 months lol
It's weird that the more they push for DEI the more samey and predictable their content gets. Weird. Wasn't that a key benefit of diversity? It's almost like DEI isn't real diversity and people shouldn't defend it.
I'm not really knowledgeable when it comes to the comics, but is this just another Madam Web type spectacle? They give an obscure/supporting character created solely to prop up another hero their own movie or show?
No never give evil corps who hate you the benefit of the doubt!
There is no way in hell the 80% popcorn audience score is legit.
To be fair ot might just be the target audience
It's not. It was 80% with hundreds of reviews before it was released.
It is when the entire audience are bots. 🤖
All reviews came before the show was even released.
There was multiple 5 star reviews before the show was made available to the public.
I'm enjoying it so far. It's the right level of spooky for me. When the Salem 7 showed up, I was genuinely startled by the way some of them looked.
In a time of numerous (inauthentic) corporate apologies, Disney hasn't even done that for their errors and years of blaming fans for their failures. I'd say that's a big reason some people want anything and everything Disney to fail.
It got canceled as soon as they walked across the red carpet
IT DID!?
I don’t think it was ever planned to be more than a one off IIRC?
@ClownfishTV I'm just stating what ThatParkPlace said but it's still hilarious none the less
@@dantespicysausage9615 it’s a part of a trilogy next one is about Vision!
It was never intended to have a season 2. It’s a movie made into a series.
When being gay is the entire selling point of the show...
It’s kinda one of the best shows since the original 3
There is room in the world for gay themed films. However, they should not completely co-opt or push aside non-gay main stream entertainment as the majority of people have little-to-no interest and not relate to it. When you shove your unwanted gay-cantered message into peoples' faces on repeat for a decade or more, they are going to eventually resent you, your message and anything related to it. And guess what? We're pretty close if not already at that point. Time to ease up.
Agreed, but this show doesn’t really do that at all, so far. So, I don’t understand why they marketed it that way. There’s a gay teen in it and that’s pretty much it.
@@nicholasanderson7316 That's fair enough but at this stage people are a little triggered because they know it's artificial and part of an agenda and they just want a break from it.
This show was made to reach out to Geeky's demographic. So...
This show is for wine drinking single cat moms. The problem with that is, they're not! interested in watching things, supposedly based on comic books. Your original fan base, isn't interested in Agatha harkness. Nobody was asking, for a show based on a character, nobody gives a sh*t about.
I know what fantasy books sell to that demo, and they are overwhelmingly about straight women and straight very hot usually magical men. So if you want to appeal to them, do an ACOTAR series or something. But they just wanted to make this show, target audience be damned.
Then they should've put it on Lifetime Channel
Nobody cared about Guardians of the Galaxy either before the first movie. That's not a reason to not make something. Just make it good.
@@MakerInMotion yes, however the ppl behind guardians of the galaxy, were actually good at their jobs. They had creative ppl working on the movie. Actors ppl like. Also the cast weren't going out of their way, to lie and accuse fans of being ists and phobes.
@@patrickmcgavin2245 It's crazy to me that Disney seems to think ist-o-phobes are their only market.,
It's for 20 to 45 year old single women, gay men, and MCU shills.
Not every character needs its or deserve its own spin-off
I am objectively enjoying this show. Because of everything in pop culture, I went into it with low expectations. Agatha is a Savage and I love it.
Sameee!
“It’s the gayest marvel show ever.”
But you keep forgetting the part that Kathryn Hahn said “It better be, if it’s not that’s not what I signed up for.”
That line right there makes you wrong for watching the show.
Not sorry.
I fell asleep. Woke up, restarted Ep1 and fell asleep again. 🥱
Well I don't rely on rotten tomatoes to tell me if something is good or bad. My eyes and ears take in the data, my brain processes it, and a decision is reached at that point.
It sounds as coarse as the 5am conversation at the Cattleman's Inn.
I’m not anti-LGBT… but as a business man, the market for LGBT is tiny. 1% of the global population. If you invest in LGBT, do not expect ROI.
Don't worry as nerds and normal people we hold the most buying power here. Everyone knows that things are in the gutter right now.
This could have been a golden opportunity to bring in some dark characters like Ghost Rider, Morbius and Blade. Maybe Man Thing shows up. But then again I'm not the modern audience.
I think you mean, "Ghost Ridette, Morbia and Blaydina"... ;)
Disney needs to listen to Kneon and Geeky Sparkles! If Disney did, Disney would have made hundreds of millions of dollars -- instead of losing hundreds of millions! Geeky criticizes Disney because she loved Disney and wants Disney to return to form.
Stories and characters matter the most. Being the "gayest thing ever" is already stupid for even happy, carefree people.
The Disney show that had lesbian witches that predates the Acolyte and Agatha All Along (The Owl House) recognized that fact.
Personally I could care less if the show is good or bad. I was out on this show when Marvel started going down hill. Once they started to say how its the gayest Marvel show ever, then I was REALLY out.
The fear with course correct is that they can do it again if giving them a chance to mend their ways as well as they showed their true colors regardless so it makes the course correct look more disingenuous because they think they are safe for now.
It's the gayest Marvel show of all time
It doesn't look too happy
@Jacy-dx6dx that is what I was thinking.
@@Jacy-dx6dxIt isn't gay as in happy. It is gay as if sexuality is an entire personality.
Make gay if you want. It just bores me.
Make it gay and lame
Except it wasn’t. At least not in the first two episodes
It was Agony All Along?
I don't care if it's good, I'm not watching it.
And besides. Nearly every Disney+ show starts good. They have actual writers and directors (if you want to call them that, this cast has only done Wandavision and Black Widow). But they hire bigger talents to start the show and then end the show. The entire middle part of the season is useoess filler garbage, written by DEI activists with literally 0 writing credits.
Look it up. It's the same formula they use on every show. Guarantee this show falls off the rails in the next few episodes.
When a Show starts, people can have their head canon to fix smaller plot holes. But, as longer a show goes, the possibility of "fixing" by head canon get smaller and smaller.
Disney needs to really rang in these actors when there with the media cause the interviews that they've done will turn people off not cause there bigots but cause people will think this show is trying to preach at them. I won't watch it cause I don't care I didn't care about Wanda Vision and this show is in my opinion 3 years late to that roaring success.
Marvel: So. What did we learn from Deadpool and Wolverine?
Staff: Nothing!!!
Marvel: Excellent!
I love the ghostbusters series, but I hated/disliked the 2016 movie.
The reason I hates was not because they were all women, but because it felt like they were trying to be funny and that just does not work for me.
The movie just felt to forced, and just did not have the charm of the series before it.
I think it would have done better if they mixed the members like they did with the new releases, which i find the new generation ones pretty good.
Still love the original movie the most.
RIP Harold Ramis, you are missed.
1 peoblem I have is Wanda d8d not have chikdren. Let's remember Vision was not an actual man, so how exactly could she have kids with him?
I will never forgive Disney for what they have done to Star Wars and how they have let the employees express how much they hold me in disdain. No amount of "course correcting" is genuine without an actual apology, and we all know that is never happening.
It was not made for me so they can eat my bass as i tuch grass.
Disney needs to stop being damn inconsistent give good quality content instead you one or two. It will take 4 years to trust Disney again. Sick of them attacking fans and how inconsistent.
Technically he should be a warlock not a witch
"It doesn't suck." The Geeky Sparkle seal of approval!😂😂
It makes no difference to me I don't have Disney+ .
As for the character Agatha, who is she? I've read lots of Marvel comics but I've never heard of this character?
I was into the two episodes, were barely into the story but I didn’t hate it so far.
It was what a month ago for the saga of lesbian space witches, now marvel pushes out super gay witches.
I noticed it has mixed reviews. My sister watched it and actually liked it. So I'll probably watch it for myself.
This show is Love and Thunder 2.0. Marvel made a rookie mistake. They took a character who stood out in a certain project and made them the main star. Agatha is on par with Korg. She’s overstayed her welcome.
But isnt Wiccan gay in the comics? He married Hulking?
Yep
It’s AGAyTHAng ALL ALONG
"A new Marvel show!"
"How bad is it?"
"Wait? What? That's not how..."
"HOW. BAD."
"Well, yeah, pretty bad..."
I wonder if the “Marvel Television” imprint is the MCU’s way of distancing itself from any of the events of the movies? Doing an “Elseworlds” without admitting it is. The last time the movies and tv tied together was Deadpool & Wolverine. A movie nether Iger or Fiege wanted and only happened during Chapek’s chairmanship and he was rewarded by being fired. I get the feeling this show, Ironheart, and Daredevil will be memory holed if not by the studio, then definitely the audience.
I think this could’ve been interesting, but instead I think it should’ve been like a 2 part episode in wandavision
From what I have been hearing is in English subtitles it calls him Teen, but every other language calls him Billy.
How to make money:
Stop making projects for just yourself.
Friz Freleng once said that he made the Looney Tunes' shorts for themselves, (Not strictly for children) but they were still made for 'the general audience'.
@@Launchpad05 yep.
Modern content seems to be made for board room members only.
@@AncestorEmpire1 'Now the chart CLEARLY says that...' #NostalgiaCritic
@@Launchpad05 yep.
do you watch 'Greg Owens'?
MCU can’t even get a Blade movie out but here comes an Agatha show
It’d clear where their priorities lie
Making money.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@remymorgan9630
D&W shows that giving fans what they want gets them money
This Agatha show shows they care more about identity politics than making money
Everything I have heard about the Blade movie says we should be glad it never got made.
@@EmptyWhiskey
Them not making it the right way further shows where their priorities lie
1. A comic book show not for comic book fans.
2. DEI characters.
3. Toxic marketing strategy.
4. Indie reviewers like Critical Drinker say it's bad.
That's 4 *hard* strikes against this show. It's going to bomb and it deserves to (and frankly #1 is all it should take).
On rotten Tomatoes there was a lot of 5 stars viewers scores days before the show even aired so either the show got leaked or fake scores got put on a site that's got caught fudging scores and changing rules for Disney before (Captain Marvel).
His character in the comics is gay. It was a clue to who he actually is. That being said, if the first thing you use to describe yourself is your sexuality, then you have a lot of soul searching to do
I don't care if it's even meh in quality. Disney isn't going to learn till it hurts them in the wallet. That won't happen if we keep giving them money.
I actually view this as a net positive because there for a while Amandla thought that she was going to be the Christ on the cross and start a new woke religion against everybody that she lumped into her little tirade. This proves that the news media wants and has control over their own agenda, leaving the Acolyte in the dust.😂😂😂
It's at 78% and 79%
And the Bob Iger Company did it again...
The penguin 🐧 comes out tonight
FFS. We've only seen two episodes so far. And they were good episodes. I know some men (and some women) have an issue with female lead programs, especially if that show is perceived to be woke (whatever that means). I'm a straight male, in my 50s, who enjoys a good story. That's all i want, a good story with good characters. Fellow men, you too can enjoy a good story, with gay characters and your masculinity will remain intact.
As a straight man, I agree. I too enjoy the show so far.
When they interviewed the director and she didn’t read the comics, or watch any marvel movies, or take in any superhero media I knew this was DOA 😂