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The best part of this is how Daniel dominates a hand while having an entirely separate conversation with a non hand participant.
Of course. He actually starts going medieval on hellmuth’s a** when he hits the straight. He absolutely knows what he is doing. Daniel always look like he just can’t shut up, but watch the correlation between what he says and the hands he plays.
@@IZn0g0uDatAll this may have made his opponent fold. 7s aren't bad here, but if somebody is that relaxed that they can rant about a completely different topic, something's up.
@@saNynho Yup what I was thinking, speaking about a totally different topic with this much confidence shows that you might have such a strong hand that it's a no brainer for you
I’m no poker expert but he wasn’t that impressive. If I was playing Daniel’s hand, after the first three cards were flipped I would stay in for either a 3 or a 6 and make my decision on the 4th card. Seeing a 3 right after, I wouldn’t have to think too hard about staying in and would be able to focus all my brainpower on being an ass across the table
He dominated that conversation as well😂😂
Some day, when Hellmuth starts steaming and the table gets irritated, I want to hear some hero at the table just very patiently say - where Phil can hear him - "guys you need to lay off, you have to understand that this guy used to be one of the best players in the world" and just watch as Hellmuth launches himself beyond the stratosphere.
I laughed way longer than I should have at that lol
Tony G will say it.
As irritating as Hellmuth can be, he still is one of the best tournament players in the world. He just won his 17th bracelet, knocking out Ivey in the process.
Koon crushed Hellmuth in Heads Up duel, and made him look like an amateur. Hellmuth had no chance.
If I was at that table I would say that because I like that kind of interaction.
The most interesting part was actually Mario Ho's bluff into making a king high straight fold :D
Nick wright should just stick to analyzing sports after that. That was embarrassing!!!!
@@adrianmccoy2643 nick wright won this sit n go....
@@travisweaver888 because this is side money for everyone else. Daniel and Phil don’t need to win. You know it is entertainment. If you had Daniel and Phil and all the pros win every time you’d never have anyone accept these things. Good ok Nick he should stick to his sports analyst job. But now I know why he has dark eyes
@@travisweaver888 whatever Phil and Daniel put down on the table they are getting back and more for appearing on the show. They aren’t seriously playing. When do you ever see Daniel in full discussion with someone else during a hand. They don’t care. They’re going off first read and shooting the shit
@@adrianmccoy2643 no he’s worst at that
It just feels like Daniel is giving vent to decades of letting it go whilst Phil blustered on in his egomaniacal way. There's history in this.
EXACTLY!
Phill can’t go 5 min without mentioning how he’s the greatest poker player in the world
He is, after Ivey, Addamo, Dwan, Negreanu, Tony G, Koon, Badziakowski, Bonomo, Chidwik, Holz, Seidel, Kenney...
Phil Hellmuth is not the greatest poker player ever. He doesn’t play enough poker to be considered the best. Phil would have to rank in the top 25 consistently and he hasn’t. He does win WSOP bracelets against bad players or gets lucky. If Daniel Negreanu won all of his 2nd places in WSOP he probably would be tied with Phil. Daniel is very unlucky when he goes all in he usually gets rivered. I don’t think there is a GOAT poker player because there’s so many great players. I can say the biggest ego and the biggest asshole in poker is Phil Hellmuth.
@@eidemonbkk He's easily the greatest tournament poker player ever
@@TheZLighting not even top 1000
@@TheZLighting greatest WSOP tournament player, the entire point Daniel is making at the end of this clip is that Phil gets demolished in high roller tournaments, which is true.
Phil is undisputedly the best in the world at making sure he gets the last word in.
He is karen
Didn’t he marry a psychiatrist? She didn’t help him at all.
@@MrJamberee She tried feverishly, but then realized that Phil wasn't a text book case.
OR snapping
You had me there in the first half
This was a perfect line up. Like, Daniel and Phil at same table guarantees a bust up, Daniel knows his facts and Phils ego will never allow him to NOT argue even when he’s wrong. And the rest of the guys just adding a needle or two to get Phil over the line🤣🤣🤣
You need Tony G. to tear Phil apart.
Buffer saying "heights and weights" like they'd square off and fight was great. seeing Hellmuth in the ring or octagon against Ivey would be a spectacle
Whatever it takes to take one for the team. SFW to his poker "awesomeness", he still plays the "straightforward" game and that doesn't cut it these days, or it only takes you so far.
I was gonna say if we could Tony g added to this table would've been great
Bruce buffer being there caught me off guard 😂 it’s timeee
Daniel hit Phil with a big dose of truth and I could see in Phil's face that he knew Daniel was right. Crushed that ego like a frat party beer can
No, Phil is right. Daniel absolutely moved the goalposts. "Oh, hey, the one even you haven't won? That will be the only criteria."
@Steven Hancock That doesn't make Daniel wrong though.
Precisely. Psychologically, Phil is so insecure about himself because Poker is the ONLY variable he uses to measure his self worth. I'm sure his psychiatrist wife would agree! 16 Bracelets is not enough to for him to feel good about.
lol total agreement no matter how good Phil is at the end of the day it is a game of chance. all the knowledge of odds in the world can't protect you from the next card.
Phil beat Daniel in 3 back-to-back heads up poker matches, but he's such a good politician that people still think he won or something. Phil can be a little obnoxious, but Danny boy is way to sure of himself.
Was more shocked about that KQ fold 🤣😭
was thinking the same, wth was that lol
Seriously, Maria straight up owned him there
@@popskull42 He owned himself
Came to the comments for this, thinking exact same!
had to re-watch that..amazing
It's so easy to forget that Hellmuth really is a great tournament player. Because, you know...of the way he is.
No...he's not.
@DiehardSkins Look, man. The guy bugs the hell out of me, and he is an absolute cash game fish. But his tournament results speak for themselves. If he had stopped winning in the modern era, I could agree with you. But...
@@davidtalbot9325 don’t even respond. Ppl are simply haters no matter what the facts are
Pete Rose was a great hitter, his character kept him out of the HOF. Same for Phil H.
This is a debatable point. He is undoubtedly the best tournament player with buyins below 10k but he does seem to struggle against the top tournament pros in the high roller and super high roller events.
Phil has a huge edge since he's a professional player against the average 10k< field since most of them are amateur players or mid-low level pros. I don't think anyone would care at all about this except he consistently brags about how he's the greatest poker player of all time.
Can Phil be considered a great tournament player if he beats up mostly bad players? Probably to each their own, but I would personally say no. For me, it's like saying Jimmer Fredette is the greatest basketball player of all time because he owns the CBA players. Yes he is the best CBA player but if you threw him in the NBA he would not even have a roster spot.
I can tell you that young Phil H was a very polite and engaging gentleman with us (total strangers to him) when we played golf with him in Vegas back in '91. I still remember that enjoyable round. He simply said he "played cards" and let me try his Ti-shafted driver that he had recently won in a poker tournament. Not a hint of ego was detected. Found out much later that he was a big shot poker player. His antics at the table are just part of his play style. I still consider him a genuine good guy.
He has literally insulted and called people stupid because he didn't think the two cards they entered a hand with against him were good enough. I have actually met the guy myself too and he wasn't rude, but he wasn't overly nice or kind. I just don't get why he feels the need to play that character of a angry best of all time poker player who should never lose when he is literally playing a game of luck.
@@TylerDavid-on8qr outside the fane he’s a solid guy
@@TylerDavid-on8qr game
@@TylerDavid-on8qr It might be just an impulse thing and being in the heat of the moment, characterizing someone based on small sample sizes and cherry picked youtube segments from poker games (or any other type of gambling) may not be the most honest way to define someone's values, ethics, or character.
@@neonreign2988 Small sample size ? Dude has been doing this for like 20 years since Moneymaker won. He does it for the tv cameras I get it but still its like a bully who gets bullied and cries about it.
it's so wierdly funny that nick wright is inbetween these two and basically dead silent. that man is one of the loudest television personalities i've seen
He focused on the game, he doesn’t have much brain power to begin with and what little he has he needs to focus on the game at hand
Yeah I'm surprised he didn't argue that Lebron was a better poker player than Phil😂😂😂
What is he doing there
@@placebojesus5652 the guy isn’t dumb, he’s just playing a role when he’s on TV. All the hot takes are contrived
Horrible poker player
DNegs is the only person who can speak to Phill anyway he wants and they can’t say anything about it 😂
dan knows he's at phil's level and maybe at phil's peak (when he embraces the GTO he accidentally invented). and they both should know that there's a few players on the planet better than them
A six year old girl can talk to Phil like that.
*-Yes because that would be adorable*
No because Phil is a five year old girl and there is a pecking order.
@@helderboymh it's funny b/c it's true
@@-..-..-..-..-..-..-..-..-.. it's a quote from community :)
Exactly.
Phil’s need for approval is unmatched. He’s a great player but his crusade with being the best in everyone’s mind is what makes him not the best. Daniel is right, Ivey doesn’t give a shit and is successful in every format of the game. Phil is probably the best tournament player but his ego and interactions with the tables in cash games cost him massive losses. He can’t take himself out if any equation because his ego won’t let him.
He was* the best.
Perhaps he is also still the best at his current stakes.
Buffer just dying to see a fight break out in front of him....ITSSSSSS TIMEEEEEEE
best comment hahaha
Daniel rapping Gin and Juice just about killed me. 🤣
It was probably the most unfunny thing I've ever heard
He was ripping off Richard Cheese and acting like it was his own
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Raulsta1985 🤣🤣🤣Amy Schumer... PLEASE!!
@@mantistoboggan2770true but he was doing it to mess with Hellmuth
Shout out to the graphics maker for the awesome D Negs quote at the end there
I like that Daniel made his argument without just saying that he himself was better than Phil, which seems like the route most people in his position would go
Hard to do that when he is 0/3 in heads up vs phil.
Negs isn't better than Hellmuth
@@markstepanekii388negs is the GOAT
@@Smoke.Official lol no. Not even top 10
Negreanu is better than Helmuth, but he is also making these comments after learning the hard way that for a while he was delusional himself. He got destroyed vs. Polk in their heads up battle for which he studied a ton with coaches to improve, making him realize in the process hoe much room for improvement there still was. He became a better player than he ever was through that process and is a lot better than Helmuth now.
They gave us the discussion we all wanted but didn’t deserve. Thanks 😊
why did we not deserve it
At 6:14, Mr. Wright folds with a King high straight. That is crazy!
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT! WHAT HAPPENED THERE
Don't think he knew he had one😂
Maybe he was worried about a flush? I don't know. 🤷♂️
@@mattsbaseballcardbreaks5952He absolutely was worried about the flush
Not a poker player at all,just a wannabe.
"Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king"
Love this quote from a fictional character
Lord Tywin Lannister
Talking right through Maria's decision. What a class act.
That's what winds me up about him, if the role was reversed he would be throwing his toys out the pram complaining that someone not active in the hand was distracting him.
He helped her steal that pot lol
„How do you feel about your seat right now!?“
„I LOVE it!!“
🤣🤣🤣
what a terrible fold by nick wright there. go back to sports brooooo
Agreed.. Horrible indeed..
for real
Maybe he misread his hand
wow
Well he didn’t have the nuts. Flush came in. Ace-king beats him. But i agree. I like to call there
Phil is Steven Seagal of Poker
Brah 🤣🤣🤣
No, the Steven Seagal of Poker is Dan Bilzerian. He won 200 million dollars playing poker, way more than any pro. He won 50 million in one session. The same as Steven Seagal being a master in a martial art that is totally not useless, being a county deputy and declared a deity by the Dalai Lama and let's not forget teaching Anderson Silva _that_ kick. 😂
@@mrkiky well, but when you ask Dan about other players, he doesn't say "Can I laugh at your face?" :D
Would’ve been so funny that as soon as they start fighting, buffer says “ITSSSSS TIIIIIIMEEEEE”
The call Negreanu made was amazing
I love the newscaster crawl at the end 😂
Great back & forth between Daniel & Phil
"Nick, how do you feel about your seat right now?"
"I love it." 😂😂😂😂
"he's gonna say you are because he wants action" 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Being truthful hurts! Ouch Phil!!! Such a 🦖!!
Still waiting for Ivey to get a wsop bracelet for a holdem event.
It's absolutely insane that Phil Ivey has 10 WSOP bracelets, and none of them are for holdem.
Maria’s face is the best part of this the bombastic side eye
The only credit I give Phil is that he had huge balls as a young man to go up against the best in the world as a young man in his early 20s. When poker was not as popular.
Poker wasn't as popular and the players weren't as good.
Any idea how he started? I am genuinely curious how he funded his beginning.
Can I mention that Helmuth has won like 8-9 bracelets in the past 20 years against large fields of the newer generation poker players. Despite the changes and evolution of the modern game Helmuth has been winning bracelets at nearly the same rate as the 80's and 90's. It's not far fetched to call him the world's best hold'em tournament player
@@morenpchangjw8868 good point.
@@Toasty_Woasty I Read an article a couples of days ago where it's stated that he did simple field work until he got his first big money. Mad respect to him if it's true👏
Nothing got ugly. He just said what the whole world except for Phil Hellmuth knew for the last 2 decades
Phil never knows when he’s being trolled. So he pushes you until you snap on him
"Nick, how do you feel about your seat right now?"
"I love it."
"Nick, how do you feel about your seat right now?"
"I love it."
lol
Love that too
phil so proud of learning his push fold ranges
That last line 😂😂😂
“Nick how do you feel about your seat right now?”
“I love it” 😂😂😂
"How you feel about your seat right now?" 😂😂😂
Hahaha that screen caption at the end was gold
you can tell how long daniel bit his tounge 🤣
Hahahaha the fkin irony in Phil saying "there's a lot of guys in poker who won't admit when they're wrong"
The graphic at the end killed me lmao
I swear Hellmuth must do this so that people underrate him. He has the personality and character of a bratty teenaged girl.
Hence his nickname “poker brat”
@@3DPrints4TC No no. He's far beyond that now. He's gotten considerably worse than when he was originally given that nickname.
All they know is "All I do is win", nothing after that. Literally skipped to "and they stay there".
IS there a longer Version
This is Hilarious much wrotht and Bruce buffer at the table watching this lol 😂
Someone should have given Buffer the mic to introduce tonight’s fighters
I love how Phil doesn’t even pretend to be humble, it’s like an alien concept to him.
it's so interesting. these two literally sound like two brothers arguing.. brotherly love lol
The Step Brothers movie reference for Phil and Daniel was spot-on.
Sequel: Poker Brothers? Some one call Adam Mckay and pitch it
I can’t get over how Wright looks like Tom Green
Hook nose and all
At least they made everyone else at the table feel comfortable
Why was Buffers logo blurred earlier but then showed?
God bless Phil, he's a strange creature.
The one rich person I wouldn't swap lives with.
the interesting thing is it always boils down clearly to insecurity. hes very intelligent but also clearly emotionally stunted and insecure. From some of the candid stuff I see of him among the common folk, I get the sense hes a decent enough person, but he gets into his elevated state and ends up coming off as a toddler. All this to say, your comment is spot on. I aspire to have his talent, but wouldn't want to be in his shoes.
😂🤣😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
He takes poker Very seriously. His high grom poker is to have the nuts and someone goes all in. Winning thevmax and getting max value have zero meaning.
Don't worry Craig he definitely wouldn't want to live your life either.......
@@brianchassee you should learn about the levels of psychology in poker, it's far from just a card game.
Being able to craft the character your opponents think you are and get in people's heads the way Phil does is beyond the level any other poker player has got to in the history of the game.
I absolutely love how Daniel endlessly talks trash about Phil, but loses to him heads up constantly. 😂.
Because playing a Heads Up table against one person for X amount of hands is a vastly different game and experience than playing a no limit high roller game at a table of 6-7 people, in the same way that the NLHR is a different experience and mindset than a tourney
@@xdropperzonline9978 of which, Phil has dominated Daniel on both arenas. Your point is? Lol
@@eb3433 This isn't the case at all? High stakes Phil gets absolutely railed by everyone at the table
Phil is right about one thing, the people he played back when were great players. I miss seeing Chan, Hanson (crazy Dane), Brunson (RIP), Ivey (saw him smile once LOL), Nguyen (hilarious), etc. They may not be on the big dollar lists, but they played some great poker.
The information bar at the end was hysterical
Why the hell did KQ fold?
Wow! Dnegs was out of line imo. Even if he is right he should act like he normally does…with class. This is not a good look 👀
@@theNfl_Esq what? he may of been showing some passion on the conversation but in no way was he rude or out of line and if you think he always shows class you obviously have never watched his live streams.
@@Raulsta1985 I'd probably check call as I think Maria is a likely player to try to bet me off the chop. Also a chance she's value betting a king of her own.
LeBron told him to
TERRIBLE fold
They both agreed before the game to argue with each other just to distract the other players.
Would a pro act like that?
Yes
In the middle of that I just wanted to hear Bruce Buffer say it's time!!
Lol Nick how do you feel about your seat rn, I love it.. Lmao 🤣
To be fair a tournament measure of success is consistency, not earnings. Daniel briefly held the title for most earnings due to a single solitary tournament win. Would you consider someone who came in first place one time to be better than someone whose final tabled a dozen times?
Who's right?
1. Daniel Negreanu
2. Phil Hellmuth
Always Negreanu, Hellmuth is incapable of being objective. His ego gets in the way
@@thesimpsons17 On the other hand, Negreanu needles Hellmuth because, (as he said himself about Ivey) he is an old school hustler and wants action.
Between Phil and Phil, I think overall Ivey is better NLH player. His cash game is way better than Hellmuth's, and Ivey's dominance at his heyday was bigger then Hellmuth's at his. Hellmuth is better in large MTTs though, and much tougher to play against. When Ivey is card dead, he is gonna be quiet and concentrate on protecting his money. When Hellmuth is card dead, he is gonna try to do weird shit that sometimes may work. And btw - all his talk about how he hates GTO, how he doesn't study theory and how he uses "white magic" instead and whatever - that is a load of bs. Hellmuth spends at least 5-6 hours with coaches and solvers every day.
And yes, btw, all this me me me posturing - Hellmuth does that only when there is a tv camera on. He does that on purpose - it is part of his brand. Off camera - he has a completely different personality. I am speaking from experience, btw - never played in cash games with either of them (stakes they play are waaay too rich for my blood and bankroll) but did participate in some tournaments where Hellmuth played as well.
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Hits his straight mid argument, doesn’t miss a beat 😮
wasn't expecting the GOAT bruce
Geezus Daniel has been on a steam roller. Of tilting and insults lol.
That;
DANIEL NEGREANU
HELLMUTH: NOT BETTER THAN PHIL IVEY AT ANYTHING
graphic at the end, had me rolling
😂🤣😂
Well Done PAD.
Daniel is not better than Ivey at anything.
@@dnx112 Daniel was talking about how,
Hellmuth isn't being better than, Ivey.
@@dnx112 he is better at socializing
Damn wish I could watch the whole session
Look at Buffer over there, lol. It's tiiiiiimmmmmmmeeeee
The true tragedy of this video is the fold by Wright at 6:12 - Someone please get that man off the table.
Lmao free chips
WOW! CRAZY, AND HE THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
Watching Phil get mad and burned at the sametime is entertaining
Hilarious when they started singing and rapping lol
I love how this video ended! Perfect!
Phil is underrated. In the 80's and 90's poker was "unstudied" and the best strategist made the most money; not the best student i.e. the one who studies the most. Phil should absolutely be credited for his natural born talent and ability to "solve" the game before solvers or general strategical advice. His dominance in the 80's and 90's put him in the conversation as the GOAT, and so does his WSOP bracelet count - but less so in my opinion as this is more to do with how many events a player enters. To say he is the GOAT is not to say he is the best at poker in the current climate. Almost no-one would say he's the greatest since the 2000's. And before the 2000's it's still debatable. And that's the great thing about poker, it's really hard to tell who's good because of the variance.
Not sure it's that hard to tell he ain't great. There's enough footage of him out there 😂
@@stevec5034 Well that's not the point is it? Today he might not be great (although he is still a winning player and so should be respected for that), but back in the day, he problem solved the game better than his counterparts, and for that he deserves to be mentioned in the GOAT conversation.
@@slothbearanonymous "Counterparts" haha. Not sure why you're trying to overcomplicated this. When it comes to the professional scene, he's not great at all and has not been for well over a decade.
For sure he is the greatest tournament player of all time. He should just be happy with that designation. He specialized in tournaments and has outperformed everybody. But you can't be the best at everything.
He's the best in the world at low dollar tournaments. That's what this convo is about
Why is everyone so happy except Phil?
🤣🤣
According to TH-cam, Hellmuth has never won a single hand of poker.
Not Buffer being the voice of reason at the table
I love this type of shit.. dan and phil are legends
I don't like either one, but DAniel is a jealous troll of Helmuth's accomplishments.. I'd side with Phil for being more humble in this instance.
Nick is the politician at the table. "How do you feel about your seat right now?" I love it.
1:17 the change in emotion from Wright 🤣🤣
A long time ago, I already knew, that Phil is most likely the greatest poker player ever. You have Phil Ivey, Phil Hellmuth, Phil Laak, Phil Galfond.
Mike Postle.
Daniel negreanu is a good role model for you young guys. Shutting your mouth and being humble is always the right answer
Cy Tolliver: You were told about that kind of talk.
Jeez, at the end I almost feel bad for Helmuth. He looked like an old boxer realizing it’s over and throwing in the towel
Are we going to ignore this intense and amazing hand at 5:00 during Phil’s tantrum?😂🥵
Breh what kills Hellmuth is the respect Ivey gets. Ivey says less and just plays the game. Dnegs wrecked his shit in this convo
Hellmuth cries out in pain as he strikes you
This is an insane blunt rotation
Always weird to see Buffer out of the cage 😂
Hate it or love it Hellmuth is one of the best everyone doesn't have to be humble the man worked hard to be one of the best and he is.
Phil is why i watch poker. I love to watch him lose and a lot of people do. He manages to make poker way more interesting
What is this broadcast called so I can watch the whole thing?🤔
That first minute was extremely tough to watch
He is not wrong. His track record in tournaments is a testament.
Phil is still full of himself and the sky is blue…
Technically, the sky isn't blue. Seriously... look it up! It's fascinating the reason why we perceive blue. As a similar saying, "water is wet"... also technically not true.