What if I start my shift at 8:30am go do one delivery be back at work reporting location get off at 12:30 go home and come back for load at 8:30 pm and finish that load at 1:30 am what will I have to claim I live 10 miles from my start and stop location
www.frontrangecompliance.com/_files/ugd/33e43a_04e056b69fc543b982ae16f189eea215.pdf that link will take you to our website with a HOS flow chart that can help you understand when everything is required. But the short answer is the rules stay the same no matter the cargo!
Absolutely you can. You can even cross a state line. Which is often mistaken. You just cannot drive beyond the 150 Air Mile Radius, work longer that 14 hours, and you have to return to the same location where you started your shift.
@@d.o.t.university1422 I was under the impression that in a 24hr cycle,one can drive for 11hrs in a 14hr shift and your clock does not stop when you begin your day?
The 60/70 hour rule is still in place. So if you are planning to work excessive days without getting a 34 hour reset, you will need to maintain your recap.
So happy I came across this channel. I recently got hire working for my cousins factory to drive a 26 ft Ryder truck. Delivering out is state with a load of windows under 10,000 pounds. My first drive was 15 hours one way. ( talk about throwing me into the fire) my question is do I need a med card? And do I need to comply with hos rules? I am one who does not like breaking the law. I felt very uncomfortable with this drive. The truck is a rental truck. Please help!
Happy to help you but there are questions we have before we can simply answer your questions here. I would suggest reaching out to us at info@frontrangecompliance.com
Does anyone know if your allowed to recap hours on short haul ? My carrier is saying I can recap hrs but I feel like they are just saying that to make me drive ??!
Using the Short Haul does not except you from either the 60/70 hour rules. So as you build your hours through the week, you will need to track total to be sure you do not violate either the 60/70, whichever you are claiming. As a property carrier you may use the 34 Hour Reset while using the short haul exception.
Are you allowed to switch drivers local CDL short haul...for example a driver gets stuck at receiver close by. Can I send a fresh driver up to releive him...if so is that considered returning to the work location because he does go back to get his car
The general rule I am referencing would apply, but some states do have individual rules for Intrastate commerce. The individual state rules however will be very similar to the federal rule. With the hours you are working you should be fine. Make sure you or your company is keeping the basic time record.
Looking for verification here....When you refer to 395.1(e)(2) you show it is for non-CDL drivers and state so at times. You also say it is for "non-CDL operations". This seems to, at times, refer to two different scenarios (driver vs operations). Pretty sure 395.1(e)(2) is about the vehicle versus whether the driver has a CDL or not. In other words, if the driver DOES have a CDL and is operating a CMV that does NOT require a CDL, then they can use 395.1(e)(2) for that transport even though they carry a CDL. It's about the vehicle and not the license.
You are correct, it is about the vehicle requiring a CDL and not whether the driver is a CDL holder. It is possible for a CDL driver to use both short haul exceptions depending on the equipment driven. Great observation!
So if you transport hazardous materials (fuel) you must log daily? Regardless if you stay below 150 air mileage and if you report to same location you started from? Do not cross state lines either.
Depending on the state you are operating. Some states have a different definition of a commercial motor vehicle as I explained in the video th-cam.com/video/sA3yHzpEyLc/w-d-xo.html If you are operating in a 10,001 pound state and you GVW is over 10,000 pounds then yes the rules would apply.
I don't think I've ever met a driver who was happy with the DOT HOS Rules. My goal is to help them to keep the DOT off the door step. Stay safe out there!!!
What if I start my shift at 8:30am go do one delivery be back at work reporting location get off at 12:30 go home and come back for load at 8:30 pm and finish that load at 1:30 am what will I have to claim I live 10 miles from my start and stop location
for short haul, is there still a 11hr max driving time?
Yes, the general HOS rules do still apply and drivers are not permitted to exceed the maximum driving hours within their shift.
What if the driver is transporting 1,500 lbs to 30,000 lbs of fuel with either a 1203 or 1863 placards.
www.frontrangecompliance.com/_files/ugd/33e43a_04e056b69fc543b982ae16f189eea215.pdf that link will take you to our website with a HOS flow chart that can help you understand when everything is required. But the short answer is the rules stay the same no matter the cargo!
Are these flow charts available for download was not able to find them on your site. I am a local driver and it would be helpful to have on hand.
Phillip, if you will go to out and fill out the contact information, I will be happy to email these flow charts to you. www.frontrangecompliance.com
Thank you !!! keep it up. the subs will come.
Do you need an MC number if you cross state lines in the 150 air miles or do you only need your DOT number ?
You only need the MC Number is you are an Interstate For-Hire Carrier. The MC is specifically tied to your operating authority.
@@d.o.t.university1422 Can I have MC and claim short haul? I won’t be going out of state any time soon
Absolutely you can. You can even cross a state line. Which is often mistaken. You just cannot drive beyond the 150 Air Mile Radius, work longer that 14 hours, and you have to return to the same location where you started your shift.
Do waiting for hours at shippers to get loaded or unloaded go against your drive time ,while stationary?
Nope, only drive time counts as drive time. :)
@@d.o.t.university1422 I was under the impression that in a 24hr cycle,one can drive for 11hrs in a 14hr shift and your clock does not stop when you begin your day?
Are we allowed to run recap hours on the short haul exemption rule?
The 60/70 hour rule is still in place. So if you are planning to work excessive days without getting a 34 hour reset, you will need to maintain your recap.
@@d.o.t.university1422 that being said... LETS GETIT'
So happy I came across this channel. I recently got hire working for my cousins factory to drive a 26 ft Ryder truck. Delivering out is state with a load of windows under 10,000 pounds. My first drive was 15 hours one way. ( talk about throwing me into the fire) my question is do I need a med card? And do I need to comply with hos rules? I am one who does not like breaking the law. I felt very uncomfortable with this drive. The truck is a rental truck. Please help!
Happy to help you but there are questions we have before we can simply answer your questions here. I would suggest reaching out to us at info@frontrangecompliance.com
Does anyone know if your allowed to recap hours on short haul ? My carrier is saying I can recap hrs but I feel like they are just saying that to make me drive ??!
Using the Short Haul does not except you from either the 60/70 hour rules. So as you build your hours through the week, you will need to track total to be sure you do not violate either the 60/70, whichever you are claiming. As a property carrier you may use the 34 Hour Reset while using the short haul exception.
Are you allowed to switch drivers local CDL short haul...for example a driver gets stuck at receiver close by. Can I send a fresh driver up to releive him...if so is that considered returning to the work location because he does go back to get his car
You can switch drivers, but if the original driver goes over 14 hours on duty, he/she will need to complete a record of duty status (logbook).
Does this applies in all states? I’ma local driver that clock in and out in Illinois I’m only works 8 to 10 hours at day 5 days at week. Thanks
The general rule I am referencing would apply, but some states do have individual rules for Intrastate commerce. The individual state rules however will be very similar to the federal rule. With the hours you are working you should be fine. Make sure you or your company is keeping the basic time record.
If you haul hazardous materials it doesn’t apply
Any time you transport a placardable amount of Hazardous Materials regardless of vehicle size, the DOT rules apply.
Looking for verification here....When you refer to 395.1(e)(2) you show it is for non-CDL drivers and state so at times. You also say it is for "non-CDL operations". This seems to, at times, refer to two different scenarios (driver vs operations). Pretty sure 395.1(e)(2) is about the vehicle versus whether the driver has a CDL or not. In other words, if the driver DOES have a CDL and is operating a CMV that does NOT require a CDL, then they can use 395.1(e)(2) for that transport even though they carry a CDL. It's about the vehicle and not the license.
You are correct, it is about the vehicle requiring a CDL and not whether the driver is a CDL holder. It is possible for a CDL driver to use both short haul exceptions depending on the equipment driven. Great observation!
Interesting that this is not discussed
It is discussed in my other videos that are specific to identifying Commercial Motor Vehicles.
So if you transport hazardous materials (fuel) you must log daily? Regardless if you stay below 150 air mileage and if you report to same location you started from? Do not cross state lines either.
If you haul over 10001 pounds it doesn’t apply to you
Depending on the state you are operating. Some states have a different definition of a commercial motor vehicle as I explained in the video th-cam.com/video/sA3yHzpEyLc/w-d-xo.html
If you are operating in a 10,001 pound state and you GVW is over 10,000 pounds then yes the rules would apply.
This is NOT good for drivers , more unpaid work !!!!
I don't think I've ever met a driver who was happy with the DOT HOS Rules. My goal is to help them to keep the DOT off the door step. Stay safe out there!!!