i build my m8 motors never heard of not using a base gasket interesting good video just installed total seal gas ported rings on this build excellent ring seal
Another great one man! Really liking your channel, one of my new favorites. About compression.. About to either go stage 2 with high lift cam or the Fuel Moto 132" Outlaw kit with either 11.75:1, 11.25:1, or 10.8:1 compression on my Road Glide ST. What´s the right way to go about the choice of compression here? Would love your input on this!
@@empcycleworks Yeah, so if we flip the question. In what case would you recommend 11.75:1 opposed to 10.8:1? Does one of them speak for more power or it has nothing to do with that?
Enjoy your content & builds, good narration…I’d like to see more detail and narration on installation of heads and pushrods…which seems really confusing to dummys like me. I also don’t quite get the re-torquing of all the cylinder bolts.
I am working on what works best in my videos. I appreciate the insight. I followed the torque instructions that came with the cometic gaskets for this build. I don't know the exact reason why they use this procedure. All I know is they sealed! Thanks for the comment
Yes it didnt make the power we were after with the Khrome Werks Exhaust. I think 155 and 146. Something like that. We just put a d and D exhaust on it. the tuner is almost done but it was at 166 hp and 159 tq last I heard today. We are also putting a D and D on the 143 that I bilt. Should wake that thing up.
Depends on a few factors. Static compression does not tell the whole story. Depending on the cam and the tune, I would run 93. Or the highest octane available where you live
Harley Davidson at this point is basically depleting old engine parts and tooling. The Milwaukee 8 motor is old school 1940’s/1950’s technology HD has been holding on to. Overly labor intensive maintenance like 3 hole oil changes, huge primary chain, bottom end cams, pushrods and a hot air cooled motor is gotta go. Performance is the new way which is what other manufacturers have done ahead of HD. The Revolution Max format will move across the line sooner than later if HD is to be competitive down the road.
I don't have final numbers yet. We are still breaking it in. Plus, we are changing the air cleaner and exhaust. It made 150/145 on some early pulls. It is limited by the air cleaner. Unfortunately, everything is on hold right now as this hurricane moves through. I will post final numbers when we are back to normal. Thanks for the comment.
You made that look and sound so easy! Great stuff my brother! I’m thinking of doing the same for next spring and doing my homework! Thanks for this!
Go for it!
Your videos are great and enjoy watch them. It’s cool how you explain what you’re doing. Ride safe and keep the videos coming.
Thanks. I’m at a shop in Punta Gorda Florida right now. I’ve got bunch of videos to edit. Thanks for watching
The m8 rings are so delicate, anyways this was such a great episode!
Thanks you
i build my m8 motors never heard of not using a base gasket interesting good video
just installed total seal gas ported rings on this build excellent ring seal
Yea. I don't usually do that. But with the machining tolerances between the Harley cases and the s&S cylinders, it is easy to do.
Sounds Nasty! I LIKE
Thanks. I love the sound of the Khrome Werks 2 into 2
Kool vid bud
Thank you
Another great one man! Really liking your channel, one of my new favorites. About compression.. About to either go stage 2 with high lift cam or the Fuel Moto 132" Outlaw kit with either 11.75:1, 11.25:1, or 10.8:1 compression on my Road Glide ST. What´s the right way to go about the choice of compression here? Would love your input on this!
It really depends on the cam choice. Usually a cam with a later intake closing time can handle more static compression
@@empcycleworks Yeah, so if we flip the question. In what case would you recommend 11.75:1 opposed to 10.8:1? Does one of them speak for more power or it has nothing to do with that?
Enjoy your content & builds, good narration…I’d like to see more detail and narration on installation of heads and pushrods…which seems really confusing to dummys like me. I also don’t quite get the re-torquing of all the cylinder bolts.
I am working on what works best in my videos. I appreciate the insight. I followed the torque instructions that came with the cometic gaskets for this build. I don't know the exact reason why they use this procedure. All I know is they sealed!
Thanks for the comment
No bottom gasket option: install a #50 cotton 🧵+the sealer
to make a "O" ring i. e.
Won't effect the C/R
Thank you. That is a great idea!
Well how much power did it make? I don't see any future videos showing this?
We changed the exhaust to d&d and it made 166/158
@@empcycleworks man nice build and numbers, which dnd exhaust
Where you located brother.
How much power did that 143 make that you recently built?
It is at the dyno getting the finish tune right now. I will post a video when i Know
Hey did you ever get this bike on the dyno??? ###
Yes it didnt make the power we were after with the Khrome Werks Exhaust. I think 155 and 146. Something like that. We just put a d and D exhaust on it. the tuner is almost done but it was at 166 hp and 159 tq last I heard today. We are also putting a D and D on the 143 that I bilt. Should wake that thing up.
Very Nice I’m in the process building that setup waiting on Ward and also have a bigger cam I’ll let u know hp🫣🫣🫣
I'm kind of jealous about how much performance can be gotten out of the M8's 😐
It is crazy how much more power you can easily get out of an m8 compared to a twin cam
What octane gas do you recommend for 11:5 :1 compression 128 with 3+ heads
Depends on a few factors. Static compression does not tell the whole story. Depending on the cam and the tune, I would run 93. Or the highest octane available where you live
Harley Davidson at this point is basically depleting old engine parts and tooling. The Milwaukee 8 motor is old school 1940’s/1950’s technology HD has been holding on to. Overly labor intensive maintenance like 3 hole oil changes, huge primary chain, bottom end cams, pushrods and a hot air cooled motor is gotta go. Performance is the new way which is what other manufacturers have done ahead of HD. The Revolution Max format will move across the line sooner than later if HD is to be competitive down the road.
so
I agree. But Old school engines are still fun.
😳Over 160 horsepower on a stock 🤔 a ticking time bomb 🤯
Boom!
And the numbers are what? I've got a 128 without that 12:1 and getting 141 HP and 151T. You all should be pushing 160.
I don't have final numbers yet. We are still breaking it in. Plus, we are changing the air cleaner and exhaust. It made 150/145 on some early pulls. It is limited by the air cleaner. Unfortunately, everything is on hold right now as this hurricane moves through. I will post final numbers when we are back to normal. Thanks for the comment.
What Octane rated fuel do you have to use?
@@dieselsoggydog6299 I’m just using 91. We have 93 available here but it contains ethanol so don’t use it.