Firstly, please keep in mind: this video has no political agenda. The only thing this is meant to do is to criticize stupid people in a stupid industry for doing stupid things and the only reason I decided to target women is because I believe it to be more personal for me than most things going on in the entertainment. It’s not meant to hate on feminism or feminists if anything I identify as one. I also want to address people constantly debating and assuming my political beliefs: in reality I’m just trying to talk about fiction and people who create it. It wounds me to read bunch of comments straight up accusing me of having some radical leaning towards all kinds and sides of political ideologies when I expressed none of it. Of course I have my own beliefs that I will keep private as for now since I believe them to be quite irrelevant when it comes to my channel but believe me when I say that my videos have always been a creative process for me and never political, and I would wish for people to respect that. If it comes across any other way, and it costs me a lot of anxiety that it might…that was never my intention and I’m sorry. Lastly but importantly, if you think that this video is me hating on my gender or trying to appeal to someone’s misogynistic beliefs…you missed the point of this essay.
Ima give u advice that u shouldnt do but i do bc im crazy: Don't give a sh*t bout society if society wont give a sh*t bout u. Trust me u have a great community... with 30-60% being sexist and finding ways to piss u off bc there aint that much "talented" women on this platform. But keep it up and nvr give up Nutsa! ✊️
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme Tomboys is perfectly okay. Movies around year 2000 featured many tomboys and they were doing fine. Tomboy simply indicates that women can also have the traits men have, but in the end, they're still women. Nowadays, tomboys are exterminated by woke culture because they think women cannot, or incapable of, have masculine traits. If a human female demonstrates any masculine trait, she's considered non-binary or transgender
It came out when I was 8/9, so you can imagine I tried to avoid it on principle, but it was legitimately worth tuning into when the house was empty and it was a mediocre rerun on the boys shows. Couldn't have my older sister finding out after all It's high art by comparison, like can you imagine Him being written in today's media
@@mobbs6426 they for some reason actually consider Him to be an icon for their movement now, which is funny because he’s a villain. These are the same people who covet Pennywise and the Babadook as well.
I think more importantly unless you secretly hate the person you are writing for maybe don't make who they are suppose to represent a complete piece of garbage as a person. Cause my god the number of terrible things she hulk has done can't be counted on two hands -overly hostile twords Bruce for him trying to help her -immediately dismissive of anything she doesn't wanna hear -repeatedly demonstrates how entitled she acts -literal millions of dollars in property damage that the majority of could have definitely been avoided -disregard for human life that's not her own -intentional murder -is a w***e (not sure of that's technically a con but it's funny) -is a repeated hypocrite who's also demonstrated moments of having double standards just as not wanting to be objectified by men while also sexualizing herself and objectifying men. -Is handed her job in a silver plater even though she is a terrible lawyer -threats if violence against people so they'd throw out their case -see's herself as above people -will catfish people(and to anyone who says " she didn't catfish him she told him she transforms" okay smart person if that's the case then why didn't she literally take two seconds to show him cause obviously he didn't get the message).
A scene that actually defined She-Hulk for me is the wedding scene where Jen always says in the show that people should like her for Jen rather than thinking she's cool because she is a hulk yet she walks in hulked up to her "best" friend's wedding to steal the spotlight for herself and then tells nobody likes her anyway.. And that time I related with NPC who didn't like her that had no names in the show than the protagonist who is supposed to make me feel bad for her struggles.. This is an example of bad writing in modern cinema..
@@darrengordon-hill Yeah? We went from Black Widow kicking people's ass using her flexibility instead of pure raw strength since she has a small body to bunch of Mary Sues who has pissing contest with internet!
The Scenes that give me a headache were; She Hulk yells at Hulk that she is in control and better than Hulk, Uses her rage at the Award Ceremony but feels justified despite doing wrong, then rewrites history because she feels like she can rewrite history and make the world forget her ills. She is privileged, antagonistic, blames everyone else for her problems, and is not a hero.
@@viraticwars What upsets me more is how she compares herself to almost every other character. She compares how she’s treated by men to Bruce wanting to literally k*ll himself, in a nonchalant manner. Another thing to mention is how the entire show is just filler with a small reference to plot because it *has* to be about Jen being so cool as She-Hulk, but shouldn’t we get to see some consequences other than her actions. For instance, she unnecessarily destroyed a bridge while fighting Daredevil (who wasn’t trying to create as much damage), or the other time where she destroyed the wall to a rented hall for a wedding- But when the two heroes in Blonsky’s center destroy her car, THEN THERES A PROBLEM. And don’t get me started with the ending, because I find it problematic and disrespectful to other heroes. Jen has the ability to break the fourth wall, and she overuses it so they can fix her shows ending, which I do understand for the marvel dynamic, but not for the show in general. She got excused for all her mistakes to the finale of episode 8 and basically got everything when she wanted, but how is that responsible for every other marvel character. It’s like saying Thor wasn’t given the opportunity to speak with Kevin about Loki or Jane’s death, Gamora and Natasha being thrown off the cliff, or Peter Parker having the entire world forget who he is. Those characters were able to create a legacy and a ton of character growth, only for Jen to get what she wants because she’s the protagonist
@@viraticwars That was the BIGGEST pile of shit about that show. You basically had a point in the show where she could have grown in some way, but instead she is given god powers to COMPLETELY change her reality. Why does she change her reality? Oh, mild inconveniences. People complain about the Scarlet Witch storyline, but at least she went through some serious pain and trauma to lead her to where she went
er, I don't know. I feel like it was a little bit rushed and lacked nuance for such an important and complex topic. It's a whole mindset she was talking about. Sure, seeing yourself as the victim will actively make you more miserable, but in the mean time, the opposite would also lead you to be blind in the instances where you do actually experience sexism, and need to speak up (or simply recognize that patern to be able to avoid it). I felt it was kind of clumsy to handle it the way it was in the video. There is a discussion to be had, but a whole, complex debate, not just 5 min of "don't be a victim". It's not that simple, and mentionning it without diving deeper might not be the best idea.
@@Emma-gk3knxactly, this “anti victimhood” push is absurd. A while back the TH-camr Coryxkenshin was undergoing some bs on the part of TH-cam screwing with his uploads and monetization. At the time he proposed that there was possibly something discriminatory going on, as he is a black man, but he said he would apologize if that accusation of racism was wrong. Then I go onto comments on other videos about his, there are people intensely angry that he dared to imply that he might actually be being discriminated against. But I though about it, is he not allowed to believe their might be racism at play? Racism didn’t spontaneously stop existing, and it can take more form then overt angry racism and can simply appear as personal biases, but people were simply so mad that he dare imply it. This culture of overcorrecting people who falsely cite discrimination is leading people to get upset at the concept that someone might be facing discrimination without even knowing if they are or not. It’s insane.
@@Emma-gk3kn a 18 min video it's a good way to start the conversation, feel free to make your 24 hour documentary about it and see how good it does lol
Ok but can we PLEASE talk about how She-Hulk has Steve's rear end as a lock screen?? Like, she hates men to objectify her but when she does it, somehow its funny? and she even makes fun of his virginity and has the audacity to get mad at men for not taking her seriously when she can't take him seriously because he was to busy saving the world to sleep with anyone. This is why I watch kdrama 🤦♀️
Yeah, if it was a man using Black-Widow's butt as the lock screen and joked about her not being able to make kids, there would be a huge drama around of it (For good reason) but since it's a guy getting clowned, then it's fine I guess
In university, I was shocked to find myself in an actual, unironic argument over exactly that double standard. A female friend of mine doing a master's degree in ethics took great offense when I suggested there might be an ethical issue with her constant, open objectification of men, and informed me that men can't be objectified, and also objectifying men is fine. I was never able to follow her reasoning on how that worked, and I stopped pressing when I realized it was making her genuinely upset. Point being, even though I can't understand it, there is apparently some twisted logic by which some feminists sincerely believe that double standard is fine. Meaning, the people who made the show, in all likelihood, literally don't see a problem with that, and honestly don't understand why anyone would.
As a young girl, the animated mulan was so epic and inspiring. As an adult, the live action one made me roll my eyes so hard! The difference between the 2 movies is, for me, the perfect example of how boring and infuriating at the same time feminist Hollywood is. I miss characters like Ripley or even rose from titanic. Characters that felt human and happened to be women.
I hate the new woke hollywood because I don’t hate that they’re featuring a female character it’s that they give her everything because she’s a female and so they just use it as a way to disregard any type of criticism valid or invalid.
They know the real reason why you hate the show all the woke psychos in hollywood know the real reason why audience hate their garbage shows and movies. They don't care about women they care about forcing their agendas onto people.
It isn't just that they're given everything. The neo-feminist 'ideal' is to never lose anything, too. Don't struggle. Don't ever show weakness. It gets even worse when they go so damn far, female characters are hardly recognizable as human beings!
one issue they are having is that they are doing the same thing at the same time as everyone else so even if you got a good representation it is place around so much garbage that you never know it was there till decades from now
In the end, I think it's really ironic that whenever someone complains about bad examples of feminism in media, we get called sexist. Despite the fact that the people who created said media tend to be someone who is too immature to talk about a sensitive and complicated subject such as sexism, or just doesn't care at all and just added it in for woke points. The worst part is, the ones who don't actually care, always goes back to stereotypes of both women and men because they are to creatively bankrupt to come up with their own story. Luckily it seems like we are coming out of the "As long as it's representation, I don't care!" area, and are becoming more mature when it comes to politics in general. As the old saying goes, "Quality over Quantity."
I feel like the stereotype part of your statement rings true. I mean a lot of the time in “feminist” movies the women follow male stereotypes (lacking in emotion, quick to violence, etc) and are overall just boring and unlikable but it’s seen as “empowering” or they fall back into the stereotype of “women are too emotional” and just complain about small things.
The sad reality is that history runs in cycles; you will always have a new generation of people who will have to relearn the lessons of history, often the hard way.
@@robo1513 the problem is that back then, men had role models in movies that had toxic masculinity. Now, “feminist” women’s role models have toxic masculinity
Might as well use this as an opportunity to shout out Michelle MacLaren. She's done work on some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Game of Thrones, and The Walking Dead. She was originally slated to direct Wonder Woman and I hope she gets way more recognition and work.
She ended up working on the show that had one of the best female protagonists in fiction, Kim Wexler. Her character is evidence to people who care about actual equality that writing strong female protagonists is possible. The reason female characters have been so stale is that Hollywood for the past decade has their minds so far into the numbers that they really don’t care about female characters, sexism, or anything they say they care about. They just want to play it safe and make as much money as possible. Coming from a guy it’s good to hear about female directors that care about art and work towards their craft. I’m tired of seeing the actual talented women in Hollywood to get overshadowed by the safest bets with no experience.
Personally, as a woman, I get so tired of the whole “man bad woman good” crap media tries to push. I know there’s this whole thing about young women saying “I hate men” whenever they try to go into the dating market or whatever, which I’m assuming that’s where the sentiment came from, however it just a completely childish way of looking at things. Do these women not have fathers, brothers, sons or any other male in their lives? My father is a wonderful man who had done so much for me and still continues to do so, I watched him struggle through being a single parent and having to deal with my mother’s bs. I watched him struggle with two jobs he had back to back and even though he had to go through that whole thing while raising a child, he had neither child support or government help. He never limited what I could do just because of my gender, the most I could say he has expected from me is to get a good job and to give him grandkids, though I feel like that’s any parent’s desires. I want stories where men and women work together, because we each have our unique abilities. So many older movies seemed to have understood that but apparently having a woman work with/help a man makes her “without agency” or something stupid. I don’t need female characters to have an arbitrary amount of dialogue or screen time, that doesn’t make a character a good character. I don’t need men to be stupid and incompetent just to make the female characters “better”, I want to see men that are good at their craft so I can identify what a desirable man is. Essentially what I’m trying to say is that I don’t want women be stereotypically masculine, and men stereotypically feminine or whatever the hell, I want them to be humans, I want to know their fears, desires, strengths and weaknesses, I don’t want a caricature. I feel like one of the best animated shows was Justice League Unlimited, all the character worked off each-other perfectly, and the stories were interesting. I wish we could go back to those types of story telling instead whatever this modern crap is. Why would I want to be reminded of the “hardship of women” every damn time I turn on the TV? It’s like if I’d watch the news to get entertained, it’s fucking batshit. Of course those types of themes can be inserted in a good and subtle fashion but they’re totally inept at that.
Hmmm, I see a theme here. Women who are respectful and nice to men (who deserve it) had good father figures in their lives. Daddy issues are a REAL problem, I’ve definitely seen it, women who hate me for literally no reason just because another man has hurt them in their lives. I assume a lot of misogynistic men have mommy issues as well. Moral of the story: be good parents or your kids will turn out to be hateful, miserable people. Who woulda thought?
While Hollywood and the access media is busy patting itself on the back for the 'feminist message' it's puking out, Miyazaki has been writing 'strong female' characters for decades, that neither resort to acting like men, or humiliating men, as has Wong Kar-wai, and the audience doesn't feel hollow or disgusted by their art.
@@noneofyourbusiness4133 Explain? Watch Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Kiki's Delivery Service, Totoro, Howl's Moving Castle, Ponyo, Nausicaa, Porco Rosso and compare to the shite Hollywood has been making; hollow and banal characters in derivative and contrived stories.
“So long as we blame our situations on patriarchy, we will unfailingly view ourselves as victims rather than protagonists in our own stories. Men are human too. We need them, & we need to understand love from their perspective as well as our own.”
Love is a social construct. In nature, males and females live in sexual conflict because our sexual interests and strategies are not the same. Men have been trying to force women into nuclear families for decades through economic and physical abuse, preventing women from getting education and their own money etc. Now they cry about incelism and hypergamy and the "death" of "family", not understanding that it's just nature taking its course. When women have the access to all the things men had access to, they don't need men as much as men have thought they needed them, and they don't need them as much as men need women. More and more women choose a solitary lifestyle and it's going to be even more popular in the future.
Women don't need men to be powerful just as men don't need women to be powerful What both men and women need is to not define each other by gender and just look at each other as people
@@merieem88technically true, we only need ourselves and happiness is an internally sourced thing really. But social harmony is, arguably, important to a society and civilisation. Each person has to be stable and have good internal peace, but that should also manifest as harmonious interactions with others. A society where men and women are just always segregated and no one bothers to have respectful harmony with the other seems like a society without poetry or colour or art: it would be a bit boring 😂 But I understand that technically you can breathe, eat, sleep, etc. without anyone else that is true for adults mostly.
I really dislike the term "pickme" I understand that there's plenty of "not like other girls" that shit on women and feminine things because they think they are special and quirky but it kinda went a lot in the opposite direction too I see a lot of women minding their own business doing what they enjoy getting called "pick me"
I still remember when I was like 13 or 14 and a woman posted a video on TikTok about tampons and I replied with "I'm too scared to use a tampon so I only use pads" and there were GROWN WOMEN coming for me calling me a "pick me" and I was fighting for my life in the comment section 😭😭 now I don't take the term "pick me" seriously anymore cause it really is just a way to shame women and girls who don't align with their own beliefs and values@@anjalik1136
And true to the brand, Disney canceled that universe when they bought Marvel and JJ's showrunner hasn't produced anything since then. (That showrunner is a woman)
Yeah, and it even had a major storyline/villain that basically centered around a toxic ex/stalker that Jessica wasn't able to free herself from... mentally or physically. That was an extremely female-centered story about domestic violence and fear women have of separating from abusive men/recovering from the trauma they received at the hands of their partners, complete with the shame they must process as they recover... and as a dude, it never once made me 1) ashamed of my gender 2) left feeling unable to relate. JJJJJJJESSSSSSSIIIIIIIICCCCCCCAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Never thought I'd see "Dr. Who" utterly nail being a villain, but gyat dayum all props to David Tennant. I think a very important part of that series was that it wasn't afraid to show the main character neither flawed nor vulnerable. She struggles, she makes mistakes, she falls into toxic patterns (alcoholism), she pushes away and shuts down those closest to her, etc. This all made her feel more real and relatable... So ofc Disney axed the property. And even when they talked about revisting the Netflix Marvel series.... they start with Daredevil. Huzzah for feminism.
The humanist aspect is the part that is too often left out of discussions like this when it is arguably the most important part of understanding the real issues.
That little sequence is going to be in that movie for eternity. In a thousand years, if humans still exist, someone is going to be watching that movie, rolling their eyes at that sequence.
Two of my favourite fiction/fantasy writers are Jenny Mai-Nguyen (a Vietnamnese/German author) and Trudi Canavan (Australian, one of the most successful fantasy authors of our time). Hollywood is so busy with stunt casting and branding that they just end up hiring the authors/directors whose sole argument for hiring them is "I am a woman".
Never heard of either of them, but looking at their goodread pages I can see they have some awesome titles for their books. ''Cold as Ice, Hard as Iron'' for example.
I’m old. When I was growing up it was accepted that one of the best bloody civil war epics was written by a woman. One of the best American poets was a woman. One of the most enduring horror stories was written by a woman. Some of the best Star Trek episodes were written by a woman. The best nasty erotica was written by a woman. This was accepted and acknowledged based on the merits of their work. What we have now is self-pity based on “lived experience” which plays a lot like the whining of sheltered bimbos.
It also plays into what they worked with prior that depends how much it takes to hire them. Sure, Jennifer Lawrence had the Hunger Games, but Chris Patt had the Marvel movies as Will/Starlord in Guardians of the Galaxy (As well as being part of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, apologies if I spell it wrong).
@@EJ_Redand tbf I don’t think Chris Pratt was much more successful than Jennifer Lawrence prior to Passengers. Chris Pratt’ most well known work was probably: Parks and Recreation Jurassic World (only first one) The Lego Movie Guardians of the Galaxy (only first one) Jennifer Lawrence had: X-Men First Class X-Men Days of Future Past The 4 Hunger Games movies not to mention an Oscar So tbf it was probably quite even honestly
@@croissantpower Yeah, Parks and Recreation, the was mistaking it for the other. They both had a varied resume prior to Passengers. I am even looking at their respective lists right now and I am actually surprised they showed up in some of them, like how Chris Pratt appeared in Jennifer's Body and Wanted. Granted it has been a VERY long while since I've seen either of them.
It's a bleak world we live in, a world of madness and narcissism and division. I hate that it feels everything falls into the "for me or against me" or "if you do/don't like this you're x". I want things to be simple and for people to just try and be decent and improve themselves
I'm not saying you're tremendously naive, but I'm not saying you have any idea that there is centuries of history prior to your birth either. Simple you are. Simply humanity has never been.
@@inciniumz4671 I'm living serious. Humans have always done this. The range in which sections of humanity can communicate has widened but a reality where "people just try to be decent and improve themselves" is a modern idea. One cripplingly dependent on the recent civilizations that are overgrown, luxurious, abundant, fragile, intricate, and interconnected in a frighteningly indirect way as you and I are living in a time in which there are vast, nearly inescapable, co-dependent yet distant and functionally dysfunctional societies of nearly complete strangers. Which is in part why it is collapsing under it's own weight and you see this narcissism and division. This is a cancerous civilization that does not know how to stop nor limit itself. A runaway train whose momentum is unstoppable now as the breaks do not work and it's passengers do not know how the train works, it's origins, or what to do as the train has never gone this fast before. Think of supermarkets, stores, and regular places in the suburbs and cities. The human mind was not designed nor prepared to see that much food or "treasure" right out in the open within reach. Almost every part of these modern civilizations are overwhelming, perplexing, and driving people insane in the subconscious sense as the human mind predates this mad house. I'm communicating with you on a literal magic mirror. This modern world is cracked from the unnatural foundation up. People are only now largely deciding to step back with a perspective that has hindsight for this framework of reality to consider, question, observe, and reflect on the implications, the patterns, the psychological and cognitive effects and consequences this environment is having on those stuck inside of it. That's what the rise of "mental health" is. We're only now after decades and a few generations forced into this experiment realizing what unforseen and unexpected/unimagined destruction it's having on us mentally. The reality you live in is artificial and could never last forever due to straying so far away from the human condition and it's been driving those stuck helplessly inside this civilization mad in a lonely illusion of a paradise. The foundational elements of humans are returning awkwardly one after another after a brief intermission period they were temporarily staved off due to all the shiny new advancements in technology in the 20th century. Hate to say it, but we're going right back where we started from. And I don't suspect you know what that looks like.
@@knightofkorbin888 Dang dude, I misunderstood you. I'm actually on your side here, I just assumed you were on some Matrix conspiracy stuff, but yeah I agree, society has become delusional and narcissistic and corrupt. God is the only one who can change us and we threw Him out in favor of nihilism and hedonism. I know where we started from. It's not pretty but at least it's actual living, not living in simulated and superficial fulfillment
@@inciniumz4671here’s nothing wrong with nihilism and you’d know that if you actually understood it. The whole point is to find your own motivation and meaning in the world, not to rely on some preset. Many people misguidedly believe it promotes negative thinking. I also find it weird you view a time when more people were religious as never straying into delusional or corrupt behavior, I don’t think religion is bad at all but pretending it’s squeaky clean is odd.
The last line made me empathize for you more than anything this "woke" Hollywood ladies did. It's a shame we have to live in such a reality, but it looks like everytime there's a struggle, there will people who DO NOT suffer from it still trying to use it for profit. We need more people like you to call it out and we need to make sure you're a listened... which is so harder these days, when going against the popular narrative has become such a detriment that people have to resort to writing essays and gain an audience on social medias just to share their thoughts without them being weaponized against them.
I love your editing style. It’s sleek as all hell, ridiculously professional, and extremely engaging and dynamic without being distracting. This is the gold standard for video essays, and it’s unlike anything I’ve seen before.
The problem is that they do characters with their whole personality based off the fact that they are a certain religion or gender instead of good characters that happen to be a female of whatever they want
That closing sentence was spot on. What a great way of looking at a really weird time in history. Thank you for being bold in such a judgemental culture.
Thank you for putting this into words. Sometimes I think I'm going crazy, between the camps of self-victimization and/or shallow, PSA-grade storytelling. Good writing is universal. Can't differences in experience be acknowledged without putting some on a pedastal or kicking others down?
Your video essays delve deeper than most when related to movies and tv. I really appreciate how thought out and clear they are with editing that is wonderfully paired with what is being said. Hopefully one day the industry hires capable people who happen to be women, storytellers that understand the craft and don’t use any agenda to force you to go watch it. If a project is legitimately good it will speak for itself. Maybe an up and coming female storyteller / filmmaker will see your vids and become inspired to create a genuinely great piece of work that overshadows the loudness of Hollywood. Go Nutsa, big fan of your work and editing! -Starc0unter
Once again, another banger video. Hopefully, we can return to people being hired on their character and merits and not superficial, unimportant nonsense. One day lol
@@gokux75 or we can rely on their stuff while we criticize and try to improve the state of our own media at the same time so that we don't have to always depend on them for quality content and we one day end up with a library of good stories to choose from made by both. Edit: pardon the run on sentence lol
The problem is, I WANT women to write stories. I have read tons of female written books that are great. I have also read lots of books by men that are great. However, just like there are tons of horrible male authors, there are a LOT of horrible female authors, and right now, Hollywood has been prioritizing those women who care more about themselves than telling a good story. They prioritize politics over character, stereotypes over heart.
Great video, love the editing. You hit on something I've noticed myself, and I mean in myself, in there. It's this chilling effect this sort of incompetence has, and when it comes to people it's similar to one of the major downfalls of "equity", such as in Affirmative Action. Sure, there are lots of qualified people out there who meet the requirements of your quota, whatever it is, but if you can't find one of them and are forced to hire someone who isn't exactly the best qualified candidate and they then do a bad job it reinforces the old stereotypes in the end, thus potentially making it harder for future people in that group to get a job there. It also impacts media in that you see all of this drivel with a "Strong Female Character" in the lead and it makes people begin to expect other media with a female lead to be drivel as well. This is where I've really noticed it in myself, and I hate it. I love a lot of stories with female leads, but now whenever I see one announced I'm immediately and automatically skeptical. I hate that they've done this to me, that they've made me dread the thought of Mara Jade being brought back into Star Wars or what they might do with a female 00 agent, which is something I would have loved to see Emily Blunt doing a decade ago. That's it, though, _they_ did this, this is what they've done to all the "evil" straight white men like myself who grew up loving characters like Ripley, Sarah Connor and Lara Croft. It's only by sheer will that I can maintain even a partially open mind for new female lead media that comes along, and they sure aren't making it easy when they can do such a disservice to both She-Hulk and the incredibly talented actress playing her (Tatiana Maslany was so good in Orphan Black) in one fell swoop.
The problem is that the male toxicity is called out, and rightfully so ( for the parts that are actually toxic ), the female toxicity is encouraged, advertised and supported.
I met you because of EFAP and since then I've never been disappointed by your videos. There's always something you can say about them that's of very high quality. Also you can never go wrong with a Norm joke.
One of my favorite female characters recently is Annie/Starlight on The Boys. She’s funny, tough, has a whole arsenal of mental and emotional baggage but she still believes in herself and her moral compass and tries to do the right thing and protect the people she loves. The entire series is filled with women, some good, some bad, some in-between, but all fascinating . I think a lot of these complaints come from highly popular properties (usually owned by Disney) that want to offend the least amount of people possible and end up being completely bland. Branch outside of Disney (hard I know) and you’ll find plenty of well-written female characters that don’t feel beholden to Tumblr and Twitter warriors.
unfortunately that actress who plays her ascribes all criticism of her character to sexism against women. and the boys is basically stealth propaganda: the main villain of season 2 is a non-woke influencer against diversity, which means by the end she is revealed to be a secret nazi. aka a strawman. and homelander is meant to be trump, as is clear by the end of season 3. he's literally leading a maga mob, and doing trumpian rhetoric.
*Strong female characters before:* I am a human being with human struggles, I am faced with an obstacle that I must overcome and I will give my best to do so while showing what makes me likeable and worthy of respect *"Strong" female characters now:* What? Struggle? Accountability? Showing what makes me likeable or worthy of respect? why would I have to face any of that? you are supposed to like and respect me for being a woman
@@erich6073 true, both types of characters have always existed, but notice how most of the public used to root and support the actually good strong female characters instead of rooting for the toxic ones, this has noticeably changed in the last couple of years since movies like captain marvel and all the "now everyone´s female or inclusive" reboots of classic films, characters and franchises began popping out, and the way how now you are accused of every form of discrimination in social media if you say you didn´t like those terrible products, social media now tries to convince people that terribly written female characters with morally questionable personality traits are actually good and a women empowering example you should support, like and respect, OR ELSE...
@@suzygirl1843 when I say the public I mean every single person who watches movies and has access to social media to support a certain ype of character they like, the problem is the "strong female character" model that hollywood and media try to sell to the public nowadays, presenting characters that are sincerely toxic and telling the public how they should like them, the white males things is half truth, although yeah white males were in charge of movie production and din´t use to give protagonism to black women, they didn´t exactly gatekeep the type of women to praise, just look at the basic examples everybody uses, Princess Leia, Sarah Connor, Ripley, those are the most beloved and famous examples of strong female characters hollywood has given us, the problem doesn´t really come from the color of skin but from the behavior and traits of the character
It's funny because the way you describe ["Strong" female characters now] is exactly how men still act at least in my country. It is very typical and still normalized. At least those who are over 35 years old. So to me, coming from my culture, it sounds like this type of rep in media is just - maybe even accidentally - a counter-argument against what is happening irl. And I agree that it leads nowhere, it's not a good strategy to be a feminist, but whenever I hear people are bothered by _fictional women who are like this_ , I have to laugh a little because we all have a choice to ignore these, to not watch these. But many of us don't have a choice to be around _real men who are like this_ because we need to work somewhere to feed our families, we need to go to the store, we need to go outside etc. I am not trying to paint myself or women in my culture as victims (or victims to the victim mentality, haha) but whining over hollywood media, when we could just boycott it altogether because we have a gazillion other sources to entertain ourselves AND we have a gazillion other more pressing problems to focus on, does also sound a little trivial, not gonna lie. I know, such a huge corp is quite hard to ignore, but we can always _start_ .
To be honest I always thought the term "pick me girl" came about because the term "Slut" is no longer social acceptable. They surve the same function in calling other women "damaged."
For me it's moreso that the societal ideal is that a woman has to stand out from the group to gain male validation as that is what is taught to girls through media such as mean girls and amanda bynes films that sell this idea that being a pretty pink girl that sticks with the group will make you undesirable and unlovable in "good" men's eyes. "Pick me girl" is an evolution of the "bruh girl" which is itself a divergent version of "not like other girls. It comes from women seeking male validation at the cost of their interests, themselves and other friends.
At this point I'm just happy that there are characters like Jessica Jones that show that you can write a female protagonist that makes their gender relevant but not the plot, who are relatable, well written yet still having problems in their lives.
One thing I also dislike, is when a movie cant be criticize because "Well, the protagonist is a woman/women, and if you talk bad about it, you are an - ism". Or the classic marketing of "This is the 1st (insert movie genre) with a female led!" when it's obviously not. That is not counting the amount of movies that are just gender bender worse versions of a previous movies, which is just lazy.
i LOVE YOU SO MUCH! like as a girl from Kazakhstan, I am always disappointed by the new 'feminist' movies and generally west feminists. Like they fight for their right not to shave, twerk and dress half naked, while we BECAUSE OF THEM are not taken seriously in our country. We all consume American media and the content that they make labels us, women who fight for actual rights, as them 'first world feminists who think twerking in a work place is feminism'
Strong female characters are basically men with boobs. Kinda ironic how Hollywood's idea of a strong woman is a toxic man but villify toxic men at the same time.
As someone whose only real exposure to feminism was this mainline take, you've actually convinced me to look back at old feminism. It never crossed my mind that I should go back to women like Virginia Wolf to understand what it is we've lost, but what an obvious concept that is. "Getting catcalled on the street is certainly a problem, but it is hardly the conflict of our lives." I want it on a tee-shirt.
Catcalling on a daily basis... mmmm been in the building industry for 40 years last saw it in mid 80's. Ive also seen women doing it back then. Like men slapping women on the bum, I've seen more women do such a thing at clubs and pubs than Ive ever seen men doing it. That was back in the 70's and 80's.
Your Editing is FU*KING Bang On Nutsa! and love your narrative voice.❤️ Came across your channel from EFAP, and Loved your appearances there. Best wishes.
As a guy I must say I absolutely love your content. I don't pay mind if it's a woman or a man behind what I'm watching as long as it values my time. Lucy is one of my favourite movies of all time and it proves all a writer needs to write a well written female protagonist is not balls of steel and a twitter account but instead passion, creativity and well executed expressions of emotions. Like with lots of movies nowadays it's only good when the story was always good but just happens to star a woman. ((Unless the story requires a woman protagonist to work, but that's the only real exception. And no I don't mean that in the way of "you don't know what it's like to be me!" ... even that could work, every plan could work it's about execution after all but clearly the writers are lacking in that department)) Anyways same can be said about your channel. The content was always good it just happens to star you. And to be honest I really like you so far so keep it up!
@@leeking6939 lucy's plot for me was kinda stupid but i was 15 at the time prob didnt know any better and i thought the premise and VFX was pretty cool
Another example (imo) is the Mitchell’s vs the machines The main cast is relatable, funny, actually human and they actually function like a normal family and not a bunch of robots (just realized)
Great work Nutsa! As a man, I've always found difficult explaining this to women because I'm inmediatley mansplaining. I recently watched Prey (from the Predator franchise) with some female friends and had a mixed feeling about it, though I couldn't pinpoint exactly what it was. There are lots of good media representing women (like Hayao Miyazaki's anime films) but, thinking about it, I think I've only read a female take on female characters in the Harry Potter series and watched Brit Marling's stuff... I would recommend you to do a piece on your 'favorite female representation in fiction by women' and another '...by men' (specially fantasy and sci-fi). If you like graphic novel, I'm recently enjoying Brian K. Vaughan's 'Y the Last Man' and very much liked his 'Saga' (still ongoing).
I have a friend who aggressively loves She Hulk and says that the only thing people were complaining about was the twerking scene. Which was very ironic because in his own argument, he didnt say anything else about the show, and tunnel visioned himself on the twerking scene as well. Hes literally just saying whatever makes him sound like a good person without looking at the glaring issues the show has. I feel like this kind of toxic positivity will just enable Disney to keep putting out garbage
I hate the "if you don't like it you must be an ist or a phobe!" argument. DC Comics is in a death spiral because they refuse to admit people don't like what they're putting out; not because it features an LGBT character or is written by a woman, but because a lot of the books are freaking terrible. It's gotten to the point where if I see someone who isn't a man is the writer I don't bother because the main character will be a self-insert and previous characterization and canon are stomped all over. It's actually kind of amazing to me that any story written by women and non-binary people will be bad and bad in the exact same way. I want superheroes who happen to be gay, or trans, or Black or whatever. I don't want characters entirely defined by their identity who happen to do some superheroics when the writer remembers they aren't writing a YA novel.
I have no idea how I’m just now finding you, this video was damn good. You articulated your points very well, and I agree with all of it. Specifically how these female Hollywood elites feel as though they are somehow the heroes of the story by indulging in their own self-absorbed narcissism. Not that it should matter if you were a man instead, but the fact that you are a women who speaks out against this narrative they’ve been pushing is enough to prove that they cannot speak on behalf on one entire gender. All it takes is one person to shatter their argument, because women are *individuals*, and you are one of the most sharp and well-spoken I’ve seen in a long time. You’re like a breath of fresh air, thank you for this.
The fact that hollywood was willing to whitewash (lol) the Kingdom of Dahomey for "The Woman King" is positively disgusting. The protagonists portrayed in the film were actually colonial collaborators who tracked down and captured untold numbers of slaves to sell to foreign powers. The nobility of Dahomey were also major-league exploiters of women, and would drain local villages of women to fill their harems. If you look up most criticism for that movie, it's from black americans who are more than aware of the truth
For years I was saying that the story of Dahomey would be a good opportunity to have a movie with a mainly black cast and nuanced characters. And then woke Hollywood came along and fucked a great source material. It could also have been the opportunity to give us access to the rich and often unknown facets of African civilization, culture and history. Such a waste!
It wasn't just Black Americans who had legitimate grievances, right-wing white people also jumped into the discourse to use it as an excuse to complain about wokeness. They didn't actually care about it being offensive towards Black Americans and other groups of black people descended from enslaved people.
Why don't you see 3rd worl countries wemen complaining this type of problems? Cause here wemen are too busy having real problems to complain about the made up ones.
the show barry tackles this subject very well! it isn’t the main plot but ONE of the main plots and is delivered with nuance and tact you just don’t see anywhere nowadays.
I always think that Companies don't even give a damn about diversity or inclusivity to begin with, they just give a shit about the money, *LOOKING AT YOU DISNEY!!!*
I’m a guy and I write for myself, just to get my creativity out. My favorite character and one I’ve been writing most for the past few years is a female character. She’s a character who’s strong, but isn’t perfect. In fact, a large part of her story has been how imperfect she is - realizing that her actions have resulted in her becoming the very kind of person she always hated and then trying to redeem herself and rectify the consequences of her past actions. More recently, it’s how doing just that lead to the neglect of her daughter growing up and her trying to fix that relationship going forward. Not a perfect person, but someone who makes mistakes and can’t help making mistakes because that’s what people are like. No one is perfect and we always make mistakes or do bad things even if we didn’t mean it.
I'm so glad I came across your channel. I'm a published author and I often write stories with female leads. And I agree with you; it's not about gender first. It's about your character's humanity. You need to get that one right, before you dig into gender.
I think it can definitely focus on gender first, but the problem is that a lot of people seem to think that doing so is an excuse for bad writing and character development. Barbarians is almost exclusively about gender dynamics, but completely knocks it out of the park by presenting those dynamics through interesting and compelling settings and characters. I mean she even points out the OG Mulan, which does the same thing.
@@nattteo The decision whether a character is male or female matters a lot. But I tend to say that it doesn't really matter firstly what the traits of that particular character are. You need to FEEL that character. Like what it feels like to be around them. That's where you start. And from that you deduct everything else really.
@@atlanta2076 That's really fair, but I also think that a persons gender is going to have a pretty big impact on who they become, and what their "feel" is. Unless you are looking at a completely agendered society, with little to no physiological differences between men and woman, there's going to be some sort of impact. If you look at a more traditional societies, there are masculine and feminine virtues that are going to be pushed at your characters from the moment they are born, and how and why they reject or embrace those virtues says a lot about who they are and what they stand for. There are going to be social roles, and their perception and place within those social roles is also going to have a huge impact on how your characters interact with your world and the people and institutions in it. You can see how that "flavor" elevates the work of some of the best authors out there - George R.R. Martin, Brandon Sanderson, Robert Jordan, ect.
@@atlanta2076it simply depends on the writer. Hirohiko Araki explicitly wrote part 6 of Jojo’s bizarre adventure to follow a female lead, and she is beloved among the fanbase
10:20 This is one of the most well written mini-speeches of truth and conviction I have heard in a while. Replace the word "misogyny" with "oppression," and the advice applies to anyone and everyone. Thank you for the lesson you taught me with your analysis of not only film making but of mentality in general. The wisdom of recognizing the negative effects of victimizing yourself and resisting its urge to currupt your joy and make you bitter is a message that should be echoed more often. Truly, thank you. It's still sinking in, but your advice is going to save me from falling into the same trap. Keep encouraging others with your talents.
I really like your videos on this channel. You point out what's wrong with hollywood, in a very fair and thought out way. You're not going on a rant about something, you're just saying things how they are. I wish more people were like that
I personally believe that not just women have their issues. It would be really interesting to see both a man and woman who are unhappy with the system, especially since men suffer under the system as well. Mental health is a joke and our role in the family is routinely mocked and freely disrespected. Men are even expected to continuously sacrifice themselves in order to be ideal providers for their family. It would be best if the man is just an ordinary dude, not some stereotypical choice for a social outcast. Don’t even get me started on the fact that men aren’t even acknowledged when it comes to sexual and domestic abuse.
If I may, I really like the editing; always something to see that is in link to what you are saying, I want to watch your video instead of just listening to it. The script is very well written, I'm now gonna watch the rest of the content on your channel. Thank you.
I always say that the main primary goal of any filmmaker, screenwriter, and whatever creative should be to MAKE A GOOD/ENTERTAINING PRODUCT and then worry about diversity after. As long as the product itself is good, it will speak on its own regardless of its themes, messages, and politics. If anything, it will make it easier to communicate said ideas to groups who wouldnt normally agree with you or at least help them understand where you are coming from. Why is it that She Hulk gets harshly ridiculed while HBOs Harley Quinn is heavilly beloved and praised? They are both female lead shows with diverse casts and very honest progressive messages. The difference is that Harley Quinn focused on being a good show first and worried about politics second. Ladies I wanna ask: what sounds like a more entertaining and empowering story you wanna follow: A privelaged upperclass woman with a highclass job dealing with first world lady problems and her biggest enemy is Reddit Or A woman rising in the ranks of the criminal underworld to get back at her abuser while getting into all sorts of chaotic shenanigans with her new loving healthy partner
It's tough criticizing creatives of the same race, ethnicity or gender. You're expected to choke down whatever they squeeze out in order to somehow confirm your solidarity with their political agenda, and noncompliance with that norm is viewed as a betrayal of the community. I very much appreciate the integrity and adeptness in which you explain how your criticisms come not out of spite for women, (obviously) but from a place of hope for female film makers to succeed beyond the superficial. Well researched, edited and spoken, as always.
I like how they never try to portray a struggle of a single mom. I even once wrote brief story about just that thinking what if my mom lost my father to a war and had to be homeless. I gotta say it came out better than any of these portrayals of women. I only seen it portrayed briefly in Zack Snyder's Justice League. And truly I believe that has more material to work with than a cAlIFoRnIAn rich Single women in her late mid-life.
Oh my god, each chapter is named after a punchline to one joke. It's so simple but cool. Like, clever cool. I cannot emphasise how much my mind is blown
Your video style is unique and enjoyable, very good work. I'm not in LOVE with it or anything but it's just incredibly refreshing to have a such a well made video to watch. Thank you
One of the greatest and first achievements of feminism was "the vote"....the problem, women did not earn the right to vote, women were given the right to vote, men earned the right to vote....the right of voting for men came with the responsibility of being called to war, to protect the country they vote for, a woman's right to vote did not come with that same responsibility...therefore, a woman's right to vote was never a right... it was a privilege granted... That's why feminism will never be truly taken seriously because it was never about real equality, it was about privileges. The same applies to movies and to women who were given the right to write and direct movies when they had not earned the right to do so.
Holy crap, was not expecting such a professionally done video. Well written and beautifully articulated. Not to mention the great editing and very cool video structure. Great video!
3:08 I miss when pick-me girl only referred to narcissistic females who thought they were better than every other girl because they didn't like stereotypical female stuff.
Wow. Using the 3 beats of that Norm joke to begin each of the 3 parts to the video was brilliant and artfully done. Norm was my favorite comedian of all time. I suspect he himself would've agreed with the points you made. I wasn't aware of your channel til today and this is the first video of yours I've seen but I'll be a regular watcher from now on.
I greatly loathe the association of any critique of women or feminine insult with misogyny when we don't associate the same sort of language directed at men with misandry. This sort of hypocrisy is infantilizing toward women.
You know, this was really good to see. You clearly know what you are talking about and what you are doing. So tired of seeing unqualified people get so much say in things simply by being popular. It's so rare to see someone genuinely discuss something like this without taking a side or having an ulterior motive. You talk about how this stuff is bad film without ever giving the implication you don't think female producers are the equals of male ones. You talk about misogyny and stuff without the "men bad" message. It's so clear, anyone who thinks you are attacking one gender or another is deceiving theirself. Sometimes it seems like classical feminism is dead, and no one wants equality anymore. That it is just misogyny vs female superiority. Because of that, seeing someone else who believes in equality like I do is so encouraging. So tired of seeing people just lash out at the opposite gender in an endless cycle when literally all you have to do is treat others like freaking human beings. Anyway just wanted to say, in my humble opinion, this is really good. People need this. And however insignificant one person is, it is really encouraging for me to see this.
I really don't understand why people need to represent a gender, an ethnicity or even a sexuality as superior. We are all Human and I'm just proud what Humanity as a whole achieved, and that we all have different backgrounds. But some people seem to see only one side of things. Unfortunately, influential people tend to fall into that category in a desperate attempt to be seen as tolerant, while they're being the exact opposite.
You and Procrastitara need to do a podcast or a video together because you both have really good takes on feminist Hollywood bullshit. (Also you both have really calming voices)
The thing that bugs me the most is that they seem to expect women to support them no matter what. Especially if you fit into a certain group, ex black women supporting a black female lead or directed movie. If anything it makes me not want to watch the film.
I come back to some of your videos just because of your writing skills. You have a way for seemingly saying something controversial but then the explanations you give tie up those opinions in such a nice way. Good work, Nutsa
Firstly, please keep in mind: this video has no political agenda. The only thing this is meant to do is to criticize stupid people in a stupid industry for doing stupid things and the only reason I decided to target women is because I believe it to be more personal for me than most things going on in the entertainment. It’s not meant to hate on feminism or feminists if anything I identify as one.
I also want to address people constantly debating and assuming my political beliefs: in reality I’m just trying to talk about fiction and people who create it. It wounds me to read bunch of comments straight up accusing me of having some radical leaning towards all kinds and sides of political ideologies when I expressed none of it. Of course I have my own beliefs that I will keep private as for now since I believe them to be quite irrelevant when it comes to my channel but believe me when I say that my videos have always been a creative process for me and never political, and I would wish for people to respect that. If it comes across any other way, and it costs me a lot of anxiety that it might…that was never my intention and I’m sorry.
Lastly but importantly, if you think that this video is me hating on my gender or trying to appeal to someone’s misogynistic beliefs…you missed the point of this essay.
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I feel you! Hope everyone goes into this with an open mind and no preconceptions
Good to see you 👍😉
@@Twisthiphop i am close minded, sorry
Ima give u advice that u shouldnt do but i do bc im crazy: Don't give a sh*t bout society if society wont give a sh*t bout u. Trust me u have a great community... with 30-60% being sexist and finding ways to piss u off bc there aint that much "talented" women on this platform. But keep it up and nvr give up Nutsa! ✊️
The problem with most "strong female characters" these days, is they are neither strong, nor particularly feminine, and they are barely characters.
How is it wrong if they are tomboys
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme Tomboys are strong, Mary Sues aren't. That's why the former is hot, and the latter is not.
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme Tomboys is perfectly okay. Movies around year 2000 featured many tomboys and they were doing fine.
Tomboy simply indicates that women can also have the traits men have, but in the end, they're still women.
Nowadays, tomboys are exterminated by woke culture because they think women cannot, or incapable of, have masculine traits. If a human female demonstrates any masculine trait, she's considered non-binary or transgender
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme tomboys don't exist anymore. Didn't you get the memo? A girl who isn't a girly girl is obviously trans....
@@rodiusmaximus oh
That one Powerpuff episode with the feminist supervillain is funnier and more culturally relevant than the entire runtime of She-Hulk.
I didn't know when I was a kid how good we had it... sigh*
Y E S
I took so much for granted back then...
It came out when I was 8/9, so you can imagine I tried to avoid it on principle, but it was legitimately worth tuning into when the house was empty and it was a mediocre rerun on the boys shows. Couldn't have my older sister finding out after all
It's high art by comparison, like can you imagine Him being written in today's media
@@mobbs6426 they for some reason actually consider Him to be an icon for their movement now, which is funny because he’s a villain. These are the same people who covet Pennywise and the Babadook as well.
Advice: When you are doing representation of anybody make them human. Everyone has flaws.
I think more importantly unless you secretly hate the person you are writing for maybe don't make who they are suppose to represent a complete piece of garbage as a person.
Cause my god the number of terrible things she hulk has done can't be counted on two hands
-overly hostile twords Bruce for him trying to help her
-immediately dismissive of anything she doesn't wanna hear
-repeatedly demonstrates how entitled she acts
-literal millions of dollars in property damage that the majority of could have definitely been avoided
-disregard for human life that's not her own
-intentional murder
-is a w***e (not sure of that's technically a con but it's funny)
-is a repeated hypocrite who's also demonstrated moments of having double standards just as not wanting to be objectified by men while also sexualizing herself and objectifying men.
-Is handed her job in a silver plater even though she is a terrible lawyer
-threats if violence against people so they'd throw out their case
-see's herself as above people
-will catfish people(and to anyone who says " she didn't catfish him she told him she transforms" okay smart person if that's the case then why didn't she literally take two seconds to show him cause obviously he didn't get the message).
Amen to that
There are stories with characters with no flaws but I doubt Disney will be able to do that.
@@GokuBlackRose978 ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH
@@TheScarletSlayer I don’t know if he has flaws but I do want to watch the anime sooner or later.
A scene that actually defined She-Hulk for me is the wedding scene where Jen always says in the show that people should like her for Jen rather than thinking she's cool because she is a hulk yet she walks in hulked up to her "best" friend's wedding to steal the spotlight for herself and then tells nobody likes her anyway.. And that time I related with NPC who didn't like her that had no names in the show than the protagonist who is supposed to make me feel bad for her struggles.. This is an example of bad writing in modern cinema..
@@darrengordon-hill Yeah? We went from Black Widow kicking people's ass using her flexibility instead of pure raw strength since she has a small body to bunch of Mary Sues who has pissing contest with internet!
The Scenes that give me a headache were; She Hulk yells at Hulk that she is in control and better than Hulk, Uses her rage at the Award Ceremony but feels justified despite doing wrong, then rewrites history because she feels like she can rewrite history and make the world forget her ills. She is privileged, antagonistic, blames everyone else for her problems, and is not a hero.
Nah twerking scene told everything
@@viraticwars What upsets me more is how she compares herself to almost every other character. She compares how she’s treated by men to Bruce wanting to literally k*ll himself, in a nonchalant manner. Another thing to mention is how the entire show is just filler with a small reference to plot because it *has* to be about Jen being so cool as She-Hulk, but shouldn’t we get to see some consequences other than her actions. For instance, she unnecessarily destroyed a bridge while fighting Daredevil (who wasn’t trying to create as much damage), or the other time where she destroyed the wall to a rented hall for a wedding- But when the two heroes in Blonsky’s center destroy her car, THEN THERES A PROBLEM. And don’t get me started with the ending, because I find it problematic and disrespectful to other heroes. Jen has the ability to break the fourth wall, and she overuses it so they can fix her shows ending, which I do understand for the marvel dynamic, but not for the show in general. She got excused for all her mistakes to the finale of episode 8 and basically got everything when she wanted, but how is that responsible for every other marvel character. It’s like saying Thor wasn’t given the opportunity to speak with Kevin about Loki or Jane’s death, Gamora and Natasha being thrown off the cliff, or Peter Parker having the entire world forget who he is. Those characters were able to create a legacy and a ton of character growth, only for Jen to get what she wants because she’s the protagonist
@@viraticwars That was the BIGGEST pile of shit about that show. You basically had a point in the show where she could have grown in some way, but instead she is given god powers to COMPLETELY change her reality. Why does she change her reality? Oh, mild inconveniences. People complain about the Scarlet Witch storyline, but at least she went through some serious pain and trauma to lead her to where she went
That teardown of the victim mentality was honestly amazing.
One of many reasons I'm going to make sure this video is shared! :)
People who cry about the "victim mentality" are usually whiney bitches.
er, I don't know. I feel like it was a little bit rushed and lacked nuance for such an important and complex topic. It's a whole mindset she was talking about. Sure, seeing yourself as the victim will actively make you more miserable, but in the mean time, the opposite would also lead you to be blind in the instances where you do actually experience sexism, and need to speak up (or simply recognize that patern to be able to avoid it). I felt it was kind of clumsy to handle it the way it was in the video. There is a discussion to be had, but a whole, complex debate, not just 5 min of "don't be a victim". It's not that simple, and mentionning it without diving deeper might not be the best idea.
@@Emma-gk3knxactly, this “anti victimhood” push is absurd. A while back the TH-camr Coryxkenshin was undergoing some bs on the part of TH-cam screwing with his uploads and monetization. At the time he proposed that there was possibly something discriminatory going on, as he is a black man, but he said he would apologize if that accusation of racism was wrong.
Then I go onto comments on other videos about his, there are people intensely angry that he dared to imply that he might actually be being discriminated against. But I though about it, is he not allowed to believe their might be racism at play? Racism didn’t spontaneously stop existing, and it can take more form then overt angry racism and can simply appear as personal biases, but people were simply so mad that he dare imply it.
This culture of overcorrecting people who falsely cite discrimination is leading people to get upset at the concept that someone might be facing discrimination without even knowing if they are or not. It’s insane.
@@Emma-gk3kn a 18 min video it's a good way to start the conversation, feel free to make your 24 hour documentary about it and see how good it does lol
Ok but can we PLEASE talk about how She-Hulk has Steve's rear end as a lock screen?? Like, she hates men to objectify her but when she does it, somehow its funny? and she even makes fun of his virginity and has the audacity to get mad at men for not taking her seriously when she can't take him seriously because he was to busy saving the world to sleep with anyone. This is why I watch kdrama 🤦♀️
I feel like the Korean entertainment industry is going to be better than Hollywood one day.
@@daisychong3488 with the release of shows like Little Women, I can totally see that happening
She'a villain...
That's the only way I could see those clips.
Must be a crazy psychotic villain origin story...
Yeah, if it was a man using Black-Widow's butt as the lock screen and joked about her not being able to make kids, there would be a huge drama around of it (For good reason) but since it's a guy getting clowned, then it's fine I guess
In university, I was shocked to find myself in an actual, unironic argument over exactly that double standard. A female friend of mine doing a master's degree in ethics took great offense when I suggested there might be an ethical issue with her constant, open objectification of men, and informed me that men can't be objectified, and also objectifying men is fine. I was never able to follow her reasoning on how that worked, and I stopped pressing when I realized it was making her genuinely upset.
Point being, even though I can't understand it, there is apparently some twisted logic by which some feminists sincerely believe that double standard is fine. Meaning, the people who made the show, in all likelihood, literally don't see a problem with that, and honestly don't understand why anyone would.
“I don’t care about your gender but if anger and fear is the baseline for your existence, please seek a psychiatrist.”
I felt that. Great video.
As a young girl, the animated mulan was so epic and inspiring. As an adult, the live action one made me roll my eyes so hard! The difference between the 2 movies is, for me, the perfect example of how boring and infuriating at the same time feminist Hollywood is. I miss characters like Ripley or even rose from titanic. Characters that felt human and happened to be women.
I hate the new woke hollywood because I don’t hate that they’re featuring a female character it’s that they give her everything because she’s a female and so they just use it as a way to disregard any type of criticism valid or invalid.
It's not "woke", it's feminist hollywood
They know the real reason why you hate the show all the woke psychos in hollywood know the real reason why audience hate their garbage shows and movies.
They don't care about women they care about forcing their agendas onto people.
@@theelectricprince8231 I would say it’s both.
It isn't just that they're given everything. The neo-feminist 'ideal' is to never lose anything, too. Don't struggle. Don't ever show weakness. It gets even worse when they go so damn far, female characters are hardly recognizable as human beings!
one issue they are having is that they are doing the same thing at the same time as everyone else so even if you got a good representation it is place around so much garbage that you never know it was there till decades from now
In the end, I think it's really ironic that whenever someone complains about bad examples of feminism in media, we get called sexist. Despite the fact that the people who created said media tend to be someone who is too immature to talk about a sensitive and complicated subject such as sexism, or just doesn't care at all and just added it in for woke points. The worst part is, the ones who don't actually care, always goes back to stereotypes of both women and men because they are to creatively bankrupt to come up with their own story. Luckily it seems like we are coming out of the "As long as it's representation, I don't care!" area, and are becoming more mature when it comes to politics in general. As the old saying goes, "Quality over Quantity."
I feel like the stereotype part of your statement rings true. I mean a lot of the time in “feminist” movies the women follow male stereotypes (lacking in emotion, quick to violence, etc) and are overall just boring and unlikable but it’s seen as “empowering” or they fall back into the stereotype of “women are too emotional” and just complain about small things.
The sad reality is that history runs in cycles; you will always have a new generation of people who will have to relearn the lessons of history, often the hard way.
@@robo1513 the problem is that back then, men had role models in movies that had toxic masculinity. Now, “feminist” women’s role models have toxic masculinity
@@alialmuhanna4938 This
"Becoming more mature when it comes to politics in general" - oh you must be young
Might as well use this as an opportunity to shout out Michelle MacLaren. She's done work on some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Game of Thrones, and The Walking Dead. She was originally slated to direct Wonder Woman and I hope she gets way more recognition and work.
i was just about to say moira walley-becket wrote the best television episode of all time "ozymandias" from brba
She ended up working on the show that had one of the best female protagonists in fiction, Kim Wexler. Her character is evidence to people who care about actual equality that writing strong female protagonists is possible. The reason female characters have been so stale is that Hollywood for the past decade has their minds so far into the numbers that they really don’t care about female characters, sexism, or anything they say they care about. They just want to play it safe and make as much money as possible. Coming from a guy it’s good to hear about female directors that care about art and work towards their craft. I’m tired of seeing the actual talented women in Hollywood to get overshadowed by the safest bets with no experience.
Maybe she'll get a chance with the rebooted DC cinematic universe
Personally, as a woman, I get so tired of the whole “man bad woman good” crap media tries to push. I know there’s this whole thing about young women saying “I hate men” whenever they try to go into the dating market or whatever, which I’m assuming that’s where the sentiment came from, however it just a completely childish way of looking at things. Do these women not have fathers, brothers, sons or any other male in their lives? My father is a wonderful man who had done so much for me and still continues to do so, I watched him struggle through being a single parent and having to deal with my mother’s bs. I watched him struggle with two jobs he had back to back and even though he had to go through that whole thing while raising a child, he had neither child support or government help. He never limited what I could do just because of my gender, the most I could say he has expected from me is to get a good job and to give him grandkids, though I feel like that’s any parent’s desires.
I want stories where men and women work together, because we each have our unique abilities. So many older movies seemed to have understood that but apparently having a woman work with/help a man makes her “without agency” or something stupid. I don’t need female characters to have an arbitrary amount of dialogue or screen time, that doesn’t make a character a good character. I don’t need men to be stupid and incompetent just to make the female characters “better”, I want to see men that are good at their craft so I can identify what a desirable man is. Essentially what I’m trying to say is that I don’t want women be stereotypically masculine, and men stereotypically feminine or whatever the hell, I want them to be humans, I want to know their fears, desires, strengths and weaknesses, I don’t want a caricature.
I feel like one of the best animated shows was Justice League Unlimited, all the character worked off each-other perfectly, and the stories were interesting. I wish we could go back to those types of story telling instead whatever this modern crap is. Why would I want to be reminded of the “hardship of women” every damn time I turn on the TV? It’s like if I’d watch the news to get entertained, it’s fucking batshit. Of course those types of themes can be inserted in a good and subtle fashion but they’re totally inept at that.
Apologies on the rant. Your video was absolutely on point with everything and I hope many more people watch. Good job!
Favorite quote is that instead of STRONG female characters, they are making strong FEMALE characters
Hmmm, I see a theme here. Women who are respectful and nice to men (who deserve it) had good father figures in their lives. Daddy issues are a REAL problem, I’ve definitely seen it, women who hate me for literally no reason just because another man has hurt them in their lives. I assume a lot of misogynistic men have mommy issues as well. Moral of the story: be good parents or your kids will turn out to be hateful, miserable people. Who woulda thought?
While Hollywood and the access media is busy patting itself on the back for the 'feminist message' it's puking out, Miyazaki has been writing 'strong female' characters for decades, that neither resort to acting like men, or humiliating men, as has Wong Kar-wai, and the audience doesn't feel hollow or disgusted by their art.
Miyazaki? Explain
@@noneofyourbusiness4133 Explain? Watch Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Kiki's Delivery Service, Totoro, Howl's Moving Castle, Ponyo, Nausicaa, Porco Rosso and compare to the shite Hollywood has been making; hollow and banal characters in derivative and contrived stories.
@@Ruylopez778 OMG, **THAT** MIYAZAKI!!!! Yes, fucjing incredible through and through
Come on, don't compare the crazily creative, talented mind of Miyazaki to the empty, vapidness of Hollywood writers, that's just humiliating
@@ayrtonjoga who is she? I’m really curious and would like to check her out
“So long as we blame our situations on patriarchy, we will unfailingly view ourselves as victims rather than protagonists in our own stories. Men are human too. We need them, & we need to understand love from their perspective as well as our own.”
Love is a social construct. In nature, males and females live in sexual conflict because our sexual interests and strategies are not the same. Men have been trying to force women into nuclear families for decades through economic and physical abuse, preventing women from getting education and their own money etc. Now they cry about incelism and hypergamy and the "death" of "family", not understanding that it's just nature taking its course. When women have the access to all the things men had access to, they don't need men as much as men have thought they needed them, and they don't need them as much as men need women. More and more women choose a solitary lifestyle and it's going to be even more popular in the future.
Women don't need men to be powerful just as men don't need women to be powerful
What both men and women need is to not define each other by gender and just look at each other as people
this is literally what we gotta understand. We’re all humans with flaws. No matter the gender
Yes, I respect men, but I will not die without them 😐
@@merieem88technically true, we only need ourselves and happiness is an internally sourced thing really. But social harmony is, arguably, important to a society and civilisation. Each person has to be stable and have good internal peace, but that should also manifest as harmonious interactions with others.
A society where men and women are just always segregated and no one bothers to have respectful harmony with the other seems like a society without poetry or colour or art: it would be a bit boring 😂
But I understand that technically you can breathe, eat, sleep, etc. without anyone else that is true for adults mostly.
I really dislike the term "pickme"
I understand that there's plenty of "not like other girls" that shit on women and feminine things because they think they are special and quirky but it kinda went a lot in the opposite direction too
I see a lot of women minding their own business doing what they enjoy getting called "pick me"
‘Pickme’ is just code for ‘she does something I don’t like or believes something I don’t’
Especially grown women bullying little girls for being “pick me” makes me so angry
Yeah, a real pick me girl is all about getting sexual attention 🤷
I still remember when I was like 13 or 14 and a woman posted a video on TikTok about tampons and I replied with "I'm too scared to use a tampon so I only use pads" and there were GROWN WOMEN coming for me calling me a "pick me" and I was fighting for my life in the comment section 😭😭 now I don't take the term "pick me" seriously anymore cause it really is just a way to shame women and girls who don't align with their own beliefs and values@@anjalik1136
It's funny because Jessica Jones came out way before She-Hulk, tackled much heavier issues, and was much more well-received.
And true to the brand, Disney canceled that universe when they bought Marvel and JJ's showrunner hasn't produced anything since then. (That showrunner is a woman)
Yeah, and it even had a major storyline/villain that basically centered around a toxic ex/stalker that Jessica wasn't able to free herself from... mentally or physically. That was an extremely female-centered story about domestic violence and fear women have of separating from abusive men/recovering from the trauma they received at the hands of their partners, complete with the shame they must process as they recover... and as a dude, it never once made me 1) ashamed of my gender 2) left feeling unable to relate.
JJJJJJJESSSSSSSIIIIIIIICCCCCCCAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Never thought I'd see "Dr. Who" utterly nail being a villain, but gyat dayum all props to David Tennant.
I think a very important part of that series was that it wasn't afraid to show the main character neither flawed nor vulnerable. She struggles, she makes mistakes, she falls into toxic patterns (alcoholism), she pushes away and shuts down those closest to her, etc. This all made her feel more real and relatable...
So ofc Disney axed the property. And even when they talked about revisting the Netflix Marvel series.... they start with Daredevil. Huzzah for feminism.
Jessica Jones was fantastic and it was something that both me and my girlfriend at the time enjoyed. Great success, so naturally it was cancelled 😅
@duncanlutz3698 ummm have u never heard or Barty Crouch....... Junior?!? Lmao
Utterly phenomenal video. Very nuanced, humanist take on feminism, modern movies, and prejudice
The humanist aspect is the part that is too often left out of discussions like this when it is arguably the most important part of understanding the real issues.
The Shrek all women fight was way better than the endgame one
That little sequence is going to be in that movie for eternity. In a thousand years, if humans still exist, someone is going to be watching that movie, rolling their eyes at that sequence.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
I see it as the harbinger of the Cringe Times
Two of my favourite fiction/fantasy writers are Jenny Mai-Nguyen (a Vietnamnese/German author) and Trudi Canavan (Australian, one of the most successful fantasy authors of our time). Hollywood is so busy with stunt casting and branding that they just end up hiring the authors/directors whose sole argument for hiring them is "I am a woman".
Just quickly looked for Jenny's books and its either in german or spanish, might have to delve deeper but not interested for now.
Never heard of either of them, but looking at their goodread pages I can see they have some awesome titles for their books. ''Cold as Ice, Hard as Iron'' for example.
I’m old. When I was growing up it was accepted that one of the best bloody civil war epics was written by a woman. One of the best American poets was a woman. One of the most enduring horror stories was written by a woman. Some of the best Star Trek episodes were written by a woman. The best nasty erotica was written by a woman. This was accepted and acknowledged based on the merits of their work. What we have now is self-pity based on “lived experience” which plays a lot like the whining of sheltered bimbos.
Don't call She-Hulk a joke. Jokes have meaning, the show does not.
Did you just describe the difference between a feminist and a knife?
Woman here. Want to hear a funny joke?
Why do women always remember when you call them fat? Because an elephant never forgets.
That's brilliant. That's brilliant.
Why don't women ever lose weight? Because they live in De-Nile.
The Jennifer Lawrence thing actually blows my mind. Chris Pratt definitely has more screen time than she does in Passengers.
It also plays into what they worked with prior that depends how much it takes to hire them. Sure, Jennifer Lawrence had the Hunger Games, but Chris Patt had the Marvel movies as Will/Starlord in Guardians of the Galaxy (As well as being part of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, apologies if I spell it wrong).
@@EJ_Reddo you mean Parks and Recreation lol? Chris Pratt definitely wasn’t in It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia
@@EJ_Redand tbf I don’t think Chris Pratt was much more successful than Jennifer Lawrence prior to Passengers.
Chris Pratt’ most well known work was probably:
Parks and Recreation
Jurassic World (only first one)
The Lego Movie
Guardians of the Galaxy (only first one)
Jennifer Lawrence had:
X-Men First Class
X-Men Days of Future Past
The 4 Hunger Games movies
not to mention an Oscar
So tbf it was probably quite even honestly
@@croissantpower Yeah, Parks and Recreation, the was mistaking it for the other.
They both had a varied resume prior to Passengers. I am even looking at their respective lists right now and I am actually surprised they showed up in some of them, like how Chris Pratt appeared in Jennifer's Body and Wanted. Granted it has been a VERY long while since I've seen either of them.
It's a bleak world we live in, a world of madness and narcissism and division. I hate that it feels everything falls into the "for me or against me" or "if you do/don't like this you're x". I want things to be simple and for people to just try and be decent and improve themselves
I'm not saying you're tremendously naive, but I'm not saying you have any idea that there is centuries of history prior to your birth either. Simple you are. Simply humanity has never been.
@@knightofkorbin888 If you're joking it's not funny
@@inciniumz4671 I'm living serious. Humans have always done this. The range in which sections of humanity can communicate has widened but a reality where "people just try to be decent and improve themselves" is a modern idea. One cripplingly dependent on the recent civilizations that are overgrown, luxurious, abundant, fragile, intricate, and interconnected in a frighteningly indirect way as you and I are living in a time in which there are vast, nearly inescapable, co-dependent yet distant and functionally dysfunctional societies of nearly complete strangers. Which is in part why it is collapsing under it's own weight and you see this narcissism and division.
This is a cancerous civilization that does not know how to stop nor limit itself. A runaway train whose momentum is unstoppable now as the breaks do not work and it's passengers do not know how the train works, it's origins, or what to do as the train has never gone this fast before.
Think of supermarkets, stores, and regular places in the suburbs and cities. The human mind was not designed nor prepared to see that much food or "treasure" right out in the open within reach. Almost every part of these modern civilizations are overwhelming, perplexing, and driving people insane in the subconscious sense as the human mind predates this mad house. I'm communicating with you on a literal magic mirror. This modern world is cracked from the unnatural foundation up.
People are only now largely deciding to step back with a perspective that has hindsight for this framework of reality to consider, question, observe, and reflect on the implications, the patterns, the psychological and cognitive effects and consequences this environment is having on those stuck inside of it. That's what the rise of "mental health" is. We're only now after decades and a few generations forced into this experiment realizing what unforseen and unexpected/unimagined destruction it's having on us mentally.
The reality you live in is artificial and could never last forever due to straying so far away from the human condition and it's been driving those stuck helplessly inside this civilization mad in a lonely illusion of a paradise. The foundational elements of humans are returning awkwardly one after another after a brief intermission period they were temporarily staved off due to all the shiny new advancements in technology in the 20th century. Hate to say it, but we're going right back where we started from. And I don't suspect you know what that looks like.
@@knightofkorbin888 Dang dude, I misunderstood you. I'm actually on your side here, I just assumed you were on some Matrix conspiracy stuff, but yeah I agree, society has become delusional and narcissistic and corrupt. God is the only one who can change us and we threw Him out in favor of nihilism and hedonism. I know where we started from. It's not pretty but at least it's actual living, not living in simulated and superficial fulfillment
@@inciniumz4671here’s nothing wrong with nihilism and you’d know that if you actually understood it. The whole point is to find your own motivation and meaning in the world, not to rely on some preset. Many people misguidedly believe it promotes negative thinking. I also find it weird you view a time when more people were religious as never straying into delusional or corrupt behavior, I don’t think religion is bad at all but pretending it’s squeaky clean is odd.
The last line made me empathize for you more than anything this "woke" Hollywood ladies did. It's a shame we have to live in such a reality, but it looks like everytime there's a struggle, there will people who DO NOT suffer from it still trying to use it for profit. We need more people like you to call it out and we need to make sure you're a listened... which is so harder these days, when going against the popular narrative has become such a detriment that people have to resort to writing essays and gain an audience on social medias just to share their thoughts without them being weaponized against them.
Eloquent, passionate, and above all right minded. You're a treasure, Nutsa.
Oh Norm, you were so good you can even give PTSD to a person even after death.
Firmly believe that snl moment is one of the best jokes ever told
I love your editing style. It’s sleek as all hell, ridiculously professional, and extremely engaging and dynamic without being distracting. This is the gold standard for video essays, and it’s unlike anything I’ve seen before.
The problem is that they do characters with their whole personality based off the fact that they are a certain religion or gender instead of good characters that happen to be a female of whatever they want
That's not really true at all, I think you just only see their religion and their gender and you ignore everything else
That closing sentence was spot on. What a great way of looking at a really weird time in history. Thank you for being bold in such a judgemental culture.
Thank you for putting this into words. Sometimes I think I'm going crazy, between the camps of self-victimization and/or shallow, PSA-grade storytelling. Good writing is universal. Can't differences in experience be acknowledged without putting some on a pedastal or kicking others down?
Your stuff is always spot on, but the fact you weaved Norm in is pure gold.
Your video essays delve deeper than most when related to movies and tv. I really appreciate how thought out and clear they are with editing that is wonderfully paired with what is being said. Hopefully one day the industry hires capable people who happen to be women, storytellers that understand the craft and don’t use any agenda to force you to go watch it. If a project is legitimately good it will speak for itself. Maybe an up and coming female storyteller / filmmaker will see your vids and become inspired to create a genuinely great piece of work that overshadows the loudness of Hollywood. Go Nutsa, big fan of your work and editing!
-Starc0unter
Once again, another banger video. Hopefully, we can return to people being hired on their character and merits and not superficial, unimportant nonsense. One day lol
Or you can look towards the east to find quality story telling lol.
@@gokux75 💀nah
@@gokux75 or we can rely on their stuff while we criticize and try to improve the state of our own media at the same time so that we don't have to always depend on them for quality content and we one day end up with a library of good stories to choose from made by both. Edit: pardon the run on sentence lol
@@neonice east media has its issues but its not all bad. Ex: studio Ghibli.
The problem is, I WANT women to write stories. I have read tons of female written books that are great. I have also read lots of books by men that are great. However, just like there are tons of horrible male authors, there are a LOT of horrible female authors, and right now, Hollywood has been prioritizing those women who care more about themselves than telling a good story. They prioritize politics over character, stereotypes over heart.
Great video, love the editing.
You hit on something I've noticed myself, and I mean in myself, in there. It's this chilling effect this sort of incompetence has, and when it comes to people it's similar to one of the major downfalls of "equity", such as in Affirmative Action. Sure, there are lots of qualified people out there who meet the requirements of your quota, whatever it is, but if you can't find one of them and are forced to hire someone who isn't exactly the best qualified candidate and they then do a bad job it reinforces the old stereotypes in the end, thus potentially making it harder for future people in that group to get a job there.
It also impacts media in that you see all of this drivel with a "Strong Female Character" in the lead and it makes people begin to expect other media with a female lead to be drivel as well. This is where I've really noticed it in myself, and I hate it. I love a lot of stories with female leads, but now whenever I see one announced I'm immediately and automatically skeptical. I hate that they've done this to me, that they've made me dread the thought of Mara Jade being brought back into Star Wars or what they might do with a female 00 agent, which is something I would have loved to see Emily Blunt doing a decade ago.
That's it, though, _they_ did this, this is what they've done to all the "evil" straight white men like myself who grew up loving characters like Ripley, Sarah Connor and Lara Croft. It's only by sheer will that I can maintain even a partially open mind for new female lead media that comes along, and they sure aren't making it easy when they can do such a disservice to both She-Hulk and the incredibly talented actress playing her (Tatiana Maslany was so good in Orphan Black) in one fell swoop.
The problem is that the male toxicity is called out, and rightfully so ( for the parts that are actually toxic ), the female toxicity is encouraged, advertised and supported.
I met you because of EFAP and since then I've never been disappointed by your videos. There's always something you can say about them that's of very high quality. Also you can never go wrong with a Norm joke.
One of my favorite female characters recently is Annie/Starlight on The Boys. She’s funny, tough, has a whole arsenal of mental and emotional baggage but she still believes in herself and her moral compass and tries to do the right thing and protect the people she loves. The entire series is filled with women, some good, some bad, some in-between, but all fascinating . I think a lot of these complaints come from highly popular properties (usually owned by Disney) that want to offend the least amount of people possible and end up being completely bland. Branch outside of Disney (hard I know) and you’ll find plenty of well-written female characters that don’t feel beholden to Tumblr and Twitter warriors.
Good tip - All of the characters in The Boys are really well developed, even if I am still traumatised by the season 3 opener.
@@goawayleavemealone2880 The image is still in my head.
unfortunately that actress who plays her ascribes all criticism of her character to sexism against women. and the boys is basically stealth propaganda: the main villain of season 2 is a non-woke influencer against diversity, which means by the end she is revealed to be a secret nazi. aka a strawman. and homelander is meant to be trump, as is clear by the end of season 3. he's literally leading a maga mob, and doing trumpian rhetoric.
Ya, she’s probably the most like her comic counterpart out of the main cast
I completely disagree I think Kripke has always been terrible at writing female characters
Very well written, eye opening essay! I found myself agreeing with basically everything if not mistaken, great as always!
*Strong female characters before:* I am a human being with human struggles, I am faced with an obstacle that I must overcome and I will give my best to do so while showing what makes me likeable and worthy of respect
*"Strong" female characters now:* What? Struggle? Accountability? Showing what makes me likeable or worthy of respect? why would I have to face any of that? you are supposed to like and respect me for being a woman
Before when? There have been female characters of both types for as long as I have been alive and consuming media.
@@erich6073 true, both types of characters have always existed, but notice how most of the public used to root and support the actually good strong female characters instead of rooting for the toxic ones, this has noticeably changed in the last couple of years since movies like captain marvel and all the "now everyone´s female or inclusive" reboots of classic films, characters and franchises began popping out, and the way how now you are accused of every form of discrimination in social media if you say you didn´t like those terrible products, social media now tries to convince people that terribly written female characters with morally questionable personality traits are actually good and a women empowering example you should support, like and respect, OR ELSE...
@@guillehdz Which public? Honey? White males were in charge of gatekeeping the type of women to praise and noticed very few women of color.
@@suzygirl1843 when I say the public I mean every single person who watches movies and has access to social media to support a certain ype of character they like, the problem is the "strong female character" model that hollywood and media try to sell to the public nowadays, presenting characters that are sincerely toxic and telling the public how they should like them, the white males things is half truth, although yeah white males were in charge of movie production and din´t use to give protagonism to black women, they didn´t exactly gatekeep the type of women to praise, just look at the basic examples everybody uses, Princess Leia, Sarah Connor, Ripley, those are the most beloved and famous examples of strong female characters hollywood has given us, the problem doesn´t really come from the color of skin but from the behavior and traits of the character
It's funny because the way you describe ["Strong" female characters now] is exactly how men still act at least in my country. It is very typical and still normalized. At least those who are over 35 years old. So to me, coming from my culture, it sounds like this type of rep in media is just - maybe even accidentally - a counter-argument against what is happening irl.
And I agree that it leads nowhere, it's not a good strategy to be a feminist, but whenever I hear people are bothered by _fictional women who are like this_ , I have to laugh a little because we all have a choice to ignore these, to not watch these. But many of us don't have a choice to be around _real men who are like this_ because we need to work somewhere to feed our families, we need to go to the store, we need to go outside etc.
I am not trying to paint myself or women in my culture as victims (or victims to the victim mentality, haha) but whining over hollywood media, when we could just boycott it altogether because we have a gazillion other sources to entertain ourselves AND we have a gazillion other more pressing problems to focus on, does also sound a little trivial, not gonna lie.
I know, such a huge corp is quite hard to ignore, but we can always _start_ .
I gotta say your channel is super underrated and your editing is better than most big TH-camrs
Legally blond has a message that was completely undermined by the sequel.
To be honest I always thought the term "pick me girl" came about because the term "Slut" is no longer social acceptable. They surve the same function in calling other women "damaged."
The term is completely made to target the same group of women! I never realized that.
Incel replaced "creepy virgin." It's all just semantic warfare.
For me it's moreso that the societal ideal is that a woman has to stand out from the group to gain male validation as that is what is taught to girls through media such as mean girls and amanda bynes films that sell this idea that being a pretty pink girl that sticks with the group will make you undesirable and unlovable in "good" men's eyes. "Pick me girl" is an evolution of the "bruh girl" which is itself a divergent version of "not like other girls. It comes from women seeking male validation at the cost of their interests, themselves and other friends.
Honestly finding this channel in 2022 was very good for my anxiety your videos calm me down thank you
Fuckin PREACH. I feel the exact same way.
Grevious voice: "Ah, Another Nutsa video to add to my collection"
This is an excellent video essay! More impressive is that you're so young with this mindset. Please, continue to produce this great work! Thank you!
At this point I'm just happy that there are characters like Jessica Jones that show that you can write a female protagonist that makes their gender relevant but not the plot, who are relatable, well written yet still having problems in their lives.
One thing I also dislike, is when a movie cant be criticize because "Well, the protagonist is a woman/women, and if you talk bad about it, you are an - ism". Or the classic marketing of "This is the 1st (insert movie genre) with a female led!" when it's obviously not.
That is not counting the amount of movies that are just gender bender worse versions of a previous movies, which is just lazy.
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i LOVE YOU SO MUCH! like as a girl from Kazakhstan, I am always disappointed by the new 'feminist' movies and generally west feminists. Like they fight for their right not to shave, twerk and dress half naked, while we BECAUSE OF THEM are not taken seriously in our country. We all consume American media and the content that they make labels us, women who fight for actual rights, as them 'first world feminists who think twerking in a work place is feminism'
Strong female characters are basically men with boobs.
Kinda ironic how Hollywood's idea of a strong woman is a toxic man but villify toxic men at the same time.
As someone whose only real exposure to feminism was this mainline take, you've actually convinced me to look back at old feminism. It never crossed my mind that I should go back to women like Virginia Wolf to understand what it is we've lost, but what an obvious concept that is.
"Getting catcalled on the street is certainly a problem, but it is hardly the conflict of our lives."
I want it on a tee-shirt.
i aint readin allat
Catcalling on a daily basis... mmmm been in the building industry for 40 years last saw it in mid 80's. Ive also seen women doing it back then. Like men slapping women on the bum, I've seen more women do such a thing at clubs and pubs than Ive ever seen men doing it. That was back in the 70's and 80's.
Unpopular opinion: most women have never been catcalled and will not ever be catcalled.
Your Editing is FU*KING Bang On Nutsa! and love your narrative voice.❤️
Came across your channel from EFAP, and Loved your appearances there.
Best wishes.
As a guy I must say I absolutely love your content. I don't pay mind if it's a woman or a man behind what I'm watching as long as it values my time. Lucy is one of my favourite movies of all time and it proves all a writer needs to write a well written female protagonist is not balls of steel and a twitter account but instead passion, creativity and well executed expressions of emotions.
Like with lots of movies nowadays it's only good when the story was always good but just happens to star a woman. ((Unless the story requires a woman protagonist to work, but that's the only real exception. And no I don't mean that in the way of "you don't know what it's like to be me!" ... even that could work, every plan could work it's about execution after all but clearly the writers are lacking in that department))
Anyways same can be said about your channel. The content was always good it just happens to star you. And to be honest I really like you so far so keep it up!
Lucy, now that’s a movie I haven’t heard in a long time.
Lucy and Columbiana for me are such an underrated masterpieces. Writers in Holywood need to watch these movies and understand what we want.
@@leeking6939 lucy's plot for me was kinda stupid but i was 15 at the time prob didnt know any better and i thought the premise and VFX was pretty cool
Inside Job is another great example. Reagan Ridley is so damn good.
Another example (imo) is the Mitchell’s vs the machines
The main cast is relatable, funny, actually human and they actually function like a normal family and not a bunch of robots (just realized)
Your editing is awesome. So smooth
Great work Nutsa!
As a man, I've always found difficult explaining this to women because I'm inmediatley mansplaining. I recently watched Prey (from the Predator franchise) with some female friends and had a mixed feeling about it, though I couldn't pinpoint exactly what it was.
There are lots of good media representing women (like Hayao Miyazaki's anime films) but, thinking about it, I think I've only read a female take on female characters in the Harry Potter series and watched Brit Marling's stuff...
I would recommend you to do a piece on your 'favorite female representation in fiction by women' and another '...by men' (specially fantasy and sci-fi). If you like graphic novel, I'm recently enjoying Brian K. Vaughan's 'Y the Last Man' and very much liked his 'Saga' (still ongoing).
I love Y: The Last Man! The show made me not like 355 tho.
I have a friend who aggressively loves She Hulk and says that the only thing people were complaining about was the twerking scene. Which was very ironic because in his own argument, he didnt say anything else about the show, and tunnel visioned himself on the twerking scene as well.
Hes literally just saying whatever makes him sound like a good person without looking at the glaring issues the show has. I feel like this kind of toxic positivity will just enable Disney to keep putting out garbage
I hate the "if you don't like it you must be an ist or a phobe!" argument. DC Comics is in a death spiral because they refuse to admit people don't like what they're putting out; not because it features an LGBT character or is written by a woman, but because a lot of the books are freaking terrible. It's gotten to the point where if I see someone who isn't a man is the writer I don't bother because the main character will be a self-insert and previous characterization and canon are stomped all over. It's actually kind of amazing to me that any story written by women and non-binary people will be bad and bad in the exact same way. I want superheroes who happen to be gay, or trans, or Black or whatever. I don't want characters entirely defined by their identity who happen to do some superheroics when the writer remembers they aren't writing a YA novel.
What many of these people fail to realize is that a lot of us aren't criticizing the idea of representation; we're criticizing its execution.
They just ruined Willow and about to ruin Indiana Jones...Nobody is safe.
I have no idea how I’m just now finding you, this video was damn good.
You articulated your points very well, and I agree with all of it. Specifically how these female Hollywood elites feel as though they are somehow the heroes of the story by indulging in their own self-absorbed narcissism.
Not that it should matter if you were a man instead, but the fact that you are a women who speaks out against this narrative they’ve been pushing is enough to prove that they cannot speak on behalf on one entire gender. All it takes is one person to shatter their argument, because women are *individuals*, and you are one of the most sharp and well-spoken I’ve seen in a long time. You’re like a breath of fresh air, thank you for this.
The fact that hollywood was willing to whitewash (lol) the Kingdom of Dahomey for "The Woman King" is positively disgusting. The protagonists portrayed in the film were actually colonial collaborators who tracked down and captured untold numbers of slaves to sell to foreign powers. The nobility of Dahomey were also major-league exploiters of women, and would drain local villages of women to fill their harems. If you look up most criticism for that movie, it's from black americans who are more than aware of the truth
For years I was saying that the story of Dahomey would be a good opportunity to have a movie with a mainly black cast and nuanced characters. And then woke Hollywood came along and fucked a great source material. It could also have been the opportunity to give us access to the rich and often unknown facets of African civilization, culture and history. Such a waste!
It wasn't just Black Americans who had legitimate grievances, right-wing white people also jumped into the discourse to use it as an excuse to complain about wokeness. They didn't actually care about it being offensive towards Black Americans and other groups of black people descended from enslaved people.
@@Nl0RHollywood doesn't have any interest in portraying Africa as anything other than an idyllic paradise that was ruined when Dwight Mann showed up.
"Being a woman today is synonymous with proof" is such a good line encapsulating the time.
Why don't you see 3rd worl countries wemen complaining this type of problems?
Cause here wemen are too busy having real problems to complain about the made up ones.
Nutsa, your edit is the best. Plus, it's surprise that you the only who talks about this problem.
the show barry tackles this subject very well! it isn’t the main plot but ONE of the main plots and is delivered with nuance and tact you just don’t see anywhere nowadays.
I always think that Companies don't even give a damn about diversity or inclusivity to begin with, they just give a shit about the money, *LOOKING AT YOU DISNEY!!!*
I’m a guy and I write for myself, just to get my creativity out. My favorite character and one I’ve been writing most for the past few years is a female character. She’s a character who’s strong, but isn’t perfect. In fact, a large part of her story has been how imperfect she is - realizing that her actions have resulted in her becoming the very kind of person she always hated and then trying to redeem herself and rectify the consequences of her past actions. More recently, it’s how doing just that lead to the neglect of her daughter growing up and her trying to fix that relationship going forward. Not a perfect person, but someone who makes mistakes and can’t help making mistakes because that’s what people are like. No one is perfect and we always make mistakes or do bad things even if we didn’t mean it.
As a straight white boy, thank you for saying I’m not evil for not watching a movie.
to paraphrase homer, "kids, kids, you both failed. The lesson is never try."
I'm so glad I came across your channel. I'm a published author and I often write stories with female leads. And I agree with you; it's not about gender first. It's about your character's humanity. You need to get that one right, before you dig into gender.
I think it can definitely focus on gender first, but the problem is that a lot of people seem to think that doing so is an excuse for bad writing and character development. Barbarians is almost exclusively about gender dynamics, but completely knocks it out of the park by presenting those dynamics through interesting and compelling settings and characters. I mean she even points out the OG Mulan, which does the same thing.
@@nattteo The decision whether a character is male or female matters a lot. But I tend to say that it doesn't really matter firstly what the traits of that particular character are. You need to FEEL that character. Like what it feels like to be around them. That's where you start. And from that you deduct everything else really.
@@atlanta2076 That's really fair, but I also think that a persons gender is going to have a pretty big impact on who they become, and what their "feel" is. Unless you are looking at a completely agendered society, with little to no physiological differences between men and woman, there's going to be some sort of impact.
If you look at a more traditional societies, there are masculine and feminine virtues that are going to be pushed at your characters from the moment they are born, and how and why they reject or embrace those virtues says a lot about who they are and what they stand for. There are going to be social roles, and their perception and place within those social roles is also going to have a huge impact on how your characters interact with your world and the people and institutions in it.
You can see how that "flavor" elevates the work of some of the best authors out there - George R.R. Martin, Brandon Sanderson, Robert Jordan, ect.
@@atlanta2076it simply depends on the writer. Hirohiko Araki explicitly wrote part 6 of Jojo’s bizarre adventure to follow a female lead, and she is beloved among the fanbase
I saw a gag about how female lawyer was written
A female lawyer written by men: Kim Wexler
A female lawyer written by women: Jennifer Walters
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This is one of the most well written mini-speeches of truth and conviction I have heard in a while. Replace the word "misogyny" with "oppression," and the advice applies to anyone and everyone. Thank you for the lesson you taught me with your analysis of not only film making but of mentality in general. The wisdom of recognizing the negative effects of victimizing yourself and resisting its urge to currupt your joy and make you bitter is a message that should be echoed more often. Truly, thank you. It's still sinking in, but your advice is going to save me from falling into the same trap. Keep encouraging others with your talents.
I really like your videos on this channel. You point out what's wrong with hollywood, in a very fair and thought out way. You're not going on a rant about something, you're just saying things how they are. I wish more people were like that
I personally believe that not just women have their issues. It would be really interesting to see both a man and woman who are unhappy with the system, especially since men suffer under the system as well. Mental health is a joke and our role in the family is routinely mocked and freely disrespected. Men are even expected to continuously sacrifice themselves in order to be ideal providers for their family. It would be best if the man is just an ordinary dude, not some stereotypical choice for a social outcast. Don’t even get me started on the fact that men aren’t even acknowledged when it comes to sexual and domestic abuse.
If I may, I really like the editing; always something to see that is in link to what you are saying, I want to watch your video instead of just listening to it. The script is very well written, I'm now gonna watch the rest of the content on your channel. Thank you.
I always say that the main primary goal of any filmmaker, screenwriter, and whatever creative should be to MAKE A GOOD/ENTERTAINING PRODUCT and then worry about diversity after.
As long as the product itself is good, it will speak on its own regardless of its themes, messages, and politics. If anything, it will make it easier to communicate said ideas to groups who wouldnt normally agree with you or at least help them understand where you are coming from.
Why is it that She Hulk gets harshly ridiculed while HBOs Harley Quinn is heavilly beloved and praised? They are both female lead shows with diverse casts and very honest progressive messages. The difference is that Harley Quinn focused on being a good show first and worried about politics second.
Ladies I wanna ask: what sounds like a more entertaining and empowering story you wanna follow:
A privelaged upperclass woman with a highclass job dealing with first world lady problems and her biggest enemy is Reddit
Or
A woman rising in the ranks of the criminal underworld to get back at her abuser while getting into all sorts of chaotic shenanigans with her new loving healthy partner
It's tough criticizing creatives of the same race, ethnicity or gender. You're expected to choke down whatever they squeeze out in order to somehow confirm your solidarity with their political agenda, and noncompliance with that norm is viewed as a betrayal of the community. I very much appreciate the integrity and adeptness in which you explain how your criticisms come not out of spite for women, (obviously) but from a place of hope for female film makers to succeed beyond the superficial. Well researched, edited and spoken, as always.
I like how they never try to portray a struggle of a single mom. I even once wrote brief story about just that thinking what if my mom lost my father to a war and had to be homeless. I gotta say it came out better than any of these portrayals of women. I only seen it portrayed briefly in Zack Snyder's Justice League. And truly I believe that has more material to work with than a cAlIFoRnIAn rich Single women in her late mid-life.
You wrote an alternate history of your parents' lives? That's the sort of thing I would never do lol.
“If I was going to be a bad boy, I would be the baddest boy ever” -Megamind
Oh my god, each chapter is named after a punchline to one joke. It's so simple but cool. Like, clever cool. I cannot emphasise how much my mind is blown
Your video style is unique and enjoyable, very good work. I'm not in LOVE with it or anything but it's just incredibly refreshing to have a such a well made video to watch. Thank you
I’m so sick of being pandered to. Thank you for putting into words everything I hate about woke Hollywood.
One of the greatest and first achievements of feminism was "the vote"....the problem, women did not earn the right to vote, women were given the right to vote, men earned the right to vote....the right of voting for men came with the responsibility of being called to war, to protect the country they vote for, a woman's right to vote did not come with that same responsibility...therefore, a woman's right to vote was never a right... it was a privilege granted... That's why feminism will never be truly taken seriously because it was never about real equality, it was about privileges. The same applies to movies and to women who were given the right to write and direct movies when they had not earned the right to do so.
I can’t get over how calming your accent is. And great video!
Holy crap, was not expecting such a professionally done video. Well written and beautifully articulated. Not to mention the great editing and very cool video structure. Great video!
3:08 I miss when pick-me girl only referred to narcissistic females who thought they were better than every other girl because they didn't like stereotypical female stuff.
Wow. Using the 3 beats of that Norm joke to begin each of the 3 parts to the video was brilliant and artfully done. Norm was my favorite comedian of all time. I suspect he himself would've agreed with the points you made. I wasn't aware of your channel til today and this is the first video of yours I've seen but I'll be a regular watcher from now on.
Holy shit your videos are so underrated. How do you not already have 100k
I greatly loathe the association of any critique of women or feminine insult with misogyny when we don't associate the same sort of language directed at men with misandry. This sort of hypocrisy is infantilizing toward women.
THANK YOU
You know, this was really good to see. You clearly know what you are talking about and what you are doing. So tired of seeing unqualified people get so much say in things simply by being popular. It's so rare to see someone genuinely discuss something like this without taking a side or having an ulterior motive.
You talk about how this stuff is bad film without ever giving the implication you don't think female producers are the equals of male ones. You talk about misogyny and stuff without the "men bad" message. It's so clear, anyone who thinks you are attacking one gender or another is deceiving theirself.
Sometimes it seems like classical feminism is dead, and no one wants equality anymore. That it is just misogyny vs female superiority. Because of that, seeing someone else who believes in equality like I do is so encouraging. So tired of seeing people just lash out at the opposite gender in an endless cycle when literally all you have to do is treat others like freaking human beings.
Anyway just wanted to say, in my humble opinion, this is really good. People need this. And however insignificant one person is, it is really encouraging for me to see this.
Yes! Another Nutsa video!
I really don't understand why people need to represent a gender, an ethnicity or even a sexuality as superior.
We are all Human and I'm just proud what Humanity as a whole achieved, and that we all have different backgrounds.
But some people seem to see only one side of things. Unfortunately, influential people tend to fall into that category in a desperate attempt to be seen as tolerant, while they're being the exact opposite.
Babe wake up, Nutsa has uploaded a new video
You and Procrastitara need to do a podcast or a video together because you both have really good takes on feminist Hollywood bullshit. (Also you both have really calming voices)
Your channel is criminally underrated. Thank you! ❤️
Damn you Nutsa I was going to get bed on time lmao love you,your work, and opinions. Keep it Up Up UP
Babe wake TF up Nutsa just posted
Dude 5 seconds in this is so fu*king good what creativity and taste man my god!
The thing that bugs me the most is that they seem to expect women to support them no matter what. Especially if you fit into a certain group, ex black women supporting a black female lead or directed movie. If anything it makes me not want to watch the film.
I come back to some of your videos just because of your writing skills. You have a way for seemingly saying something controversial but then the explanations you give tie up those opinions in such a nice way. Good work, Nutsa