Film Is In It's Fanfiction Era.

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  • @Nutsa
    @Nutsa  ปีที่แล้ว +506

    I'M FREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
    But also like this took MONTHS. So, if you enjoyed any part of it...like and comment and stuff cause 🌠 algorithm 🌠

    • @bhuvanashwar2098
      @bhuvanashwar2098 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Bro this editing is immaculate

    • @winkydinky1436
      @winkydinky1436 ปีที่แล้ว

      what happened to your weird russian accent.

    • @CaptMeg
      @CaptMeg ปีที่แล้ว +12

      please never stop making videos. people need to hear that there are more opinions out there than just what is pushed by the mainstream.🙏

    • @sylvielauffeyson03
      @sylvielauffeyson03 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The edit is masterpiece ✨

    • @leandrodepaula5464
      @leandrodepaula5464 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Great insight, great video. Thanks for pointing the issues without mentioning wokeness. It's become a cliché by now. Thanks for being original while talking about unoriginality

  • @sgray001
    @sgray001 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    I'll push back on one thing: A lot of these "fanfiction" movies _do_ have passion for the source material. They hate it. They hate it so much, that they're willing to lose millions of dollars destroying and replacing the source material.

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Hate is astronomically worse than love in all senses and manners.
      You find someone who loves the source material and they tend to either make faithful retellings of the story's, or great continuations or new generations of those stories.
      Pick someone who hates it and it will crash and burn.

    • @st1922
      @st1922 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      **cough*snowwhite*cough**

    • @Manola-tu7wk
      @Manola-tu7wk ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @chingma8064
      @chingma8064 ปีที่แล้ว

      To paraphrase the Dark Knight, maybe some men aren't here to protect us minorities like they said, some men just want to watch the world burn.

    • @darthgamer9861
      @darthgamer9861 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hell, I’ve read MLP fan fiction better than what Hollywood has pumped out.

  • @michealgomez5373
    @michealgomez5373 ปีที่แล้ว +780

    there hasn't been any passion in Disney for a while and you are right there's more passion in fanfiction than the garbage they're spilling out

    • @TheAustralianMapper5378
      @TheAustralianMapper5378 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Guess because in fanfiction people actually care about it. For the most part.

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@TheAustralianMapper5378FANfiction. These people aren’t fans and that’s the problem, they’re making something they are fans of

    • @Travelerfrom2024
      @Travelerfrom2024 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@zzodysseuszz Well, Johnson is one of the biggest Star Wars fan and Abrams is one of the geekest person on Earth so...

    • @minion3806
      @minion3806 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Travelerfrom2024 I don't buy that for a second. do you buy that?

    • @Travelerfrom2024
      @Travelerfrom2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@minion3806 What do you mean ? Excuse me, I'm french, I don't understand all the everything in your language

  • @honey3762
    @honey3762 ปีที่แล้ว +579

    I've read some really good fanfiction before. Some amature stuff. Some thoughtful stuff. Terrible and good. Fanfiction is fun because it is done out of love. Hollywood isn't doing "fanfiction" type media, it's rewriting it to appeal to people that it can never please. It will never be feminist enough, it will never be empowering enough, it will never be black enough, it will never be the right kind of representation. There is no endgame to any social movement. There is no end to the march so there is no right way to play the game. Disney needs to stop with the ESG stuff, they are like a C in the ranking anyway. Disney needs to focus on fostering talent or another dreamworks is going to pop up. They are going to create more compeditors with their behavior and push away talent.

    • @tranngockha6562
      @tranngockha6562 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Where can I read fanfic? I'm interested but don't know where to started

    • @godabandonedthistimeline
      @godabandonedthistimeline ปีที่แล้ว +35

      ​​@@tranngockha6562 I would recommend going to Archive of Our Own (AO3). Just find a fandom you are interested in, google it with AO3, filter out what you are not interested in and just scroll down to find something to read

    • @SeasideDetective2
      @SeasideDetective2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I got turned off by feminism a long, long time ago. I want equality between the sexes, but too many of the attempts to push it on society seem to have succeeded only in pitting men against women and women against each other. I don't consider myself a misogynist. I tell people, "I don't hate women; I hate stereotypes of women." But the stereotypes increasingly seem to be becoming the reality. Far too many feminist heroines have been obnoxious caricatures: either saucy blonde bombshells or "punk" figures made to appear as androgynous as possible. How is an ordinary woman supposed to relate to either of those two extremes? Too many girls are watching these heroines and thinking they have to exaggerate or even completely alter their behavior in order to be "empowered." Even worse, depicting these women as equal or even superior to men is doing a LOT of psychological damage. A girl who boldly tries to do everything a man can do is just going to repeatedly humiliate herself, and this will destroy her self-esteem as she condemns herself for "not being equal to other women." If the only way you can prove your worth is by being perfect, then you will always be worthless.

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It’s trying to appeal to ppl who don’t like fictional work, rather propaganda pieces. And they’re leaving the ppl who actually care in the dust.
      There’s a show Disney cancelled that pretty much fulfilled the diversity quota they’re trying to fulfill with these garbage movies. But since that show wasn’t just propaganda and actually was a story with characters and people who cared, they cancelled it

    • @whatwhat98
      @whatwhat98 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They need to return to what they were in the 90s and earlier. But that would require a hostile take over

  • @alexfriedman918
    @alexfriedman918 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    3:32 Nowadays, when someone hears something they love will be adapted, or have a sequel (or prequel), the reaction is :”Oh, no, dear God, please, no - anything but that, just leave it alone”!

    • @cybertramon0012
      @cybertramon0012 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      There's also the reaction when they announce a reboot. Hearing about this stuff used to make people excited, but now our reaction is to wonder how they're going to screw it up this time.
      I saw the trailer for Assassin's Creed: Mirage recently - a game that will go back to the roots of the gameplay rather than follow the same RPG trends as the newer games - and I'm still waiting to see if they're really sticking to that or adding in levelling/cash shop nonsense.

    • @hailthequeenFM
      @hailthequeenFM ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Live it alone, let it rest in peace, let it die.

  • @khfan4life365
    @khfan4life365 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    “Fanfiction” implies that the writers actually love the franchises. These people hate the franchises.

    • @wilberwhateley7569
      @wilberwhateley7569 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Or at very least are indifferent/don’t understand the IP they have been hired to write - I need only look no further than the writing team put together by Kathleen Kennedy for her “Disney Wars” projects: none of them have any experience writing sci-if or fantasy films of any kind - what little writing experience they do have is in nonsensical bullshit like “Dawson’s Creek” or other YA dramas! KK is more concerned with being “hip” to the younger audiences than being faithful to the spirit of the “Star Wars” universe (to the point where she even *denies* the existence of the Expanded Universe).

    • @MiaogisTeas
      @MiaogisTeas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wilberwhateley7569 The writers and showrunners the studios hire are specifically chosen from a pool of people who have no love for and preferably have no prior knowledge of the IP. Case in point, the She-Hulk writing room and The Witcher. You cannot control someone who can call you out on your bullshit; the studios know this and this is why they end up hiring activists and graduates.

  • @atlanta2076
    @atlanta2076 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    We need to call it Anti-Fanfic.

  • @Oswald_Thatendswald
    @Oswald_Thatendswald ปีที่แล้ว +80

    As someone who is currently writing a huge fanfiction for Fallout I wholeheartedly agree. I dont do this in the hopes of making money. I know I never will. I do it because I LOVE the franchise and want to pay my respects to it by adapting it into a novel that anyone can read, whether they've heard of it before or not. Hollywood just doesnt get why we love the stories we love, and I doubt they ever will.

  • @PaladinHD
    @PaladinHD ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Hate-Fiction
    My personal definition for what these hacks do to the source material. Often they also have contempt for the source material while also not understanding it or in some cases not even reading/watching/playing it just looking at a wiki 💀
    Yet they are rewarded billions of dollars to make these horrid flops

    • @TheDreamDetective888
      @TheDreamDetective888 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes, that is a very fair term for it.

    • @vincentspiezio8854
      @vincentspiezio8854 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This is like people who hate Superman and want to fix him.

    • @ProstheticConscience
      @ProstheticConscience ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like Worm fandom, sans billions of dollars.

    • @troybaxter
      @troybaxter ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And when their shit does flop, they start resorting to common name calling tactics and claim us "haters" are "bigots", "misogynistic", "racist", "homophobic", "transphobic", "fatphobic", and "terrorists". No joke on the last name either. If you hate the new Little Mermaid you are automatically a "terrorist".

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      eventually the share holders will tear them apart

  • @fortcastellan1730
    @fortcastellan1730 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    The worst part is: these movies are the worst sorts of fanfiction. The kind of fanfiction you try to avoid. The Mary-Sue fanfics, the self-inserts, the slashfic, the AU retelling of the original.... All the trash-tropes that drive people out of the hobby are the ones being embraced by Hollywood....

    • @adronius147
      @adronius147 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      At least fanfiction, even at its worst, comes from a place of love and enthusiasm; of being a fan. Even if it's unreadable garbage, that writer was writing for no one but themselves, and that's still art, and I deeply respect it. These movies are just garbage on purpose, a cynical "exploit", if you'll forgive the gamer term, for making lots of money quickly that Hollywood has found and is shamelessly employing.

    • @Vespyr_
      @Vespyr_ ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yeah I wouldn't lump slashfics and Alternate Universes with Mary Sue's and Self-inserts. AUs can be some of the most interesting takes on a story.

    • @osmanyousif7849
      @osmanyousif7849 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mary Sues? I think it's time we create a more literally term for these characters whether male or female. Because something that I've seen be the problem with these "modern-day protagonists" in fantasy, sci-fi, action or any genre of film, tv, or books is that they suffer from a common problem in character writing called the “surrogate problem”.
      Now what is that you may ask? Well a surrogate is basically a substitute, specifically a person serving as the stand-in. In the case of storytelling, a character serves as the surrogate for the audience, as we often spend the vast majority or the entirety of the story through their perspective, rarely is dramatic irony when we know something our protagonists don’t utilize. Now, I’m not gonna say that this is a problem in every story, let alone is it a problem with characters themselves, as it is an extremely good way to make the audience empathize with your characters.
      Take Hermione Granger in Harry Potter. Just like Harry and Ron, we have moments of following her through her journey into the Wizarding World. Her shock-and-awe is our shock-and-awe. Again, while this doesn't make her a bad character, the problem arises due to the fact that often times, these surrogate-type characters are far more PASSIVE, instead of ACTIVE. By that, I mean rather than the character being the one who pushes the story forward through his/her own independent actions, the plot is mostly dictated and driven by external forces. Because if the actions of the first 2 books/movies didn’t happen, Hermione didn’t need to have any involvement doing what she did, and will be more busy trying to get the best grades and skip into higher classes. Therefore, it does create the risk of her being a bit of a dull and passive character (Even though as the series progresses, she does become a much more layered an reinforced character, with notable flaws like her two friends....) who doesn’t really do much unless the plot says she must, therefore she just like Harry and Ron, are simply a surrogate for the audience for us to witness everything going on around them.
      One way to prevent this is by making your characters extremely reactive. Take Katniss Everdeen or Moana (original, not remake…) for example. As throughout both stories, whatever stuff gets inflicted upon them, how Katniss or Moana react to said things, instead of actively making them happen, is what defines their characters.
      Another risk with surrogate characters is that they come off as one-dimensional or have little personality. Therefore, the way to avoid this problem is by giving your characters one. Take Sarah Connor, for example in the first Terminator movie. She is certainly a surrogate character in the sense that we as the audience are stuck with her when the s**t goes down, but she’s an incredibly reactive character. She also has a defining personality that we want to root for her to win in the end. Not to mention the film uses one of the greatest instances of dramatic irony to its effect.
      Now, why am I talking about surrogate protagonists and their pitfalls? Because almost every modern-day, protagonist, especially females, in film and television suffers heavily from them. As the female characters are NOT active characters by any means, as none of the stories' events happen because of them. They, like the audience, find themselves wrapped into some crazy conflict and are simply along for the ride, while conveying what is happening in our mind as the viewer. They are also not active characters as whatever stuff gets thrown at them, it really doesn’t have any influence on them or the plot. Not to mention that despite giving them some backstory to learn about our female characters, it really doesn’t have any effect on them later on in the story. As if we didn’t know that about them, would the plot have still happened, let alone the conflict? Therefore, it leads to viewers, believing that if you remove them from the story, nothing would’ve changed. Therefore, if your characters (whether male or female) are almost completely irrelevant to the story and it’s conclusion, something has indeed gone wrong.

    • @Nemamka
      @Nemamka ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Uh wait what's the problem with these? lmao
      AUs are my favorites (where there are tons of references to canon but it's still a fresh setting), I love slash because I love any romantic character dynamic, and my first piece was a marysue story too, how is this driving people OUT of the hobby? All of these are what keep me and a gazillion people IN

    • @propheinx2250
      @propheinx2250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adronius147 it really needs to be patched.

  • @Crawlingdreams418
    @Crawlingdreams418 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    What I hate about today's hollywood is its laziness and disrespect for the source material it remakes. If we take the little mermaid, they could have actually had ariel apologize to triton, like it was originally planned. I hope hollywood gets over its laziness and goes back to adapting foreign folklore and experimenting more frequently (like Romeo Must Die, Joy Luck Club, Last Holiday, Love and Basketball)

    • @TentenchiAMVs
      @TentenchiAMVs ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wanted to see an entirely new The Little Mermaid story adaptation. Because of the original movie's legacy, this just wouldn't have worked. But, man that girl makes a beautiful mermaid! I wanted to see HER story, not Ariel's. Makes me frustrated.

    • @JoakimOtamaa
      @JoakimOtamaa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TentenchiAMVs Well, she does look like a fishperson.

  • @williamgilbert5982
    @williamgilbert5982 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    I manage a small local movie theater, and I've had to repeatedly smile and tell customers exactly why we won't be taking another soulless, repetitive, politically driven, creatively bankrupt, Disney live action remake, even though they desperately want to take their children to go see it. (Great video Nutsa, love your work)

    • @LukeAps
      @LukeAps ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Sir, if I lived anywhere near your small movie theater, I would shake your hand and pay you to continue.

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Huh. Well, I think technically it's commercially driven shallow politically narrative bullshit... But yeah. How much do you think this has hurt you commercially though? Cause... I mean. You are running a business. Though I do respect the moral stance in a greedy immoral business sector.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@plzletmebefrank Small movie theater means they probably don't have enough rooms to show all movies anyway so they get to choose

    • @plzletmebefrank
      @plzletmebefrank ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@marcogenovesi8570 Sure... But if you're not filling those rooms, then there's a bit of a problem.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@plzletmebefrank yeah if the other 9 movies out at the moment are all bombs they are in trouble. You are too worried my man, Disney's cash grabs aren't the only thing that attracts people

  • @terracottagecheese2767
    @terracottagecheese2767 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The frustrating thing about this hate-fiction (because, indeed, no fan actually makes this stuff) is that, unlike some random fanfiction you can find online, you can't just shrug it off. We look at things like My Immortal (assuming that wasn't actually satire) and laugh it off going "oh that's just a silly teen writer's fantasy." But it has no bearing on the series the fanfiction is for as a whole; it's harmless. Whereas when it comes to these movies and tv shows, the cringe-inducing, fantasy fulfillment writing is actively destroying all sorts of beloved franchises, stories, and characters. It's actively and oftentimes maliciously harmful.

  • @marcogenovesi8570
    @marcogenovesi8570 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    The editing is a masterpiece, using many people's face to convey your emotions

  • @PeterParker-ff7ub
    @PeterParker-ff7ub ปีที่แล้ว +58

    the beauty of fanfiction is making what you want with something original

  • @TheDragiix3
    @TheDragiix3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The best example in my opinion on a film adaptation that is completely different from the source material, but that is still deeply beloved, is the LOTR trilogy. Peter Jackson hit the absolute sweet spot balance between "How do I tell the original story?" and "How do I tell a new story that works on the big screen?". The characters are vastly different from the Dr. Tolkien's novels and even the story itself is majorly different... and that's ok. Because even us hardcore fans see the love and passion that went into the production of those films. Films don't have to be 100% like the books, but the films need to show that they care and that they respect the source material. That is why LOTR works despite all the differences, that's why The Shining works as well. Disney remakes don't work because they only use the orignal setup as a facade to generate money whilst slapping a morally superior message into the consumer's face. It's a sermon that comes with sparkles.

    • @cybertramon0012
      @cybertramon0012 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly. Some fans may complain about the changes, but most of them will appreciate the adaptation so long as it treats the source material with respect. Hollywood writers seem to have an active disdain for the things they're adapting. The people most likely to see their creations are the fans, and they certainly won't appreciate somebody telling them that their heroes are horrible and this new version or new hero they've made solely for the story is so much better.
      That's why Disney adaptations are failing so badly, and the Super Mario Bros did so well.

    • @stackels97
      @stackels97 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd posit that the animated adaptations Disney made of those classic folk tales were brilliant adaptations that were respectful while also suiting the medium they were being adapted for. If the live actions were actually being adapted with respect for the animated versions, while also being changed to suit a live action medium, they could have actually been interesting.

  • @isaacjoshuasanchezvera9616
    @isaacjoshuasanchezvera9616 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    This is the age of Necro-fiction.
    Nothing stays dead and when resurrected the material in question is always manipulated by people who want to erase the original creators so that they can safely steal their work.
    Its a sad time to be both a creator of original fiction and a fan of great fiction.
    Good essay, Nutsa. I hope your future videos take less time to make.

    • @ggrarl
      @ggrarl ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Mr. Krabs: Am I really gonna defile this grave for money? Of course I am!

    • @isaacjoshuasanchezvera9616
      @isaacjoshuasanchezvera9616 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ggrarl What a great and funny example.

    • @Justmonika6969
      @Justmonika6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      Necro-fiction is a great term for it.

  • @TheInvisibleCactusYT
    @TheInvisibleCactusYT ปีที่แล้ว +65

    My mother is insisting that we go and watch the little mermaid remake I’m trying to warn her bet she isn’t listening
    Wish me luck, I may have to sit through that garbage excuse for a movie

    • @Nutsa
      @Nutsa  ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Good luck and my deepest condolences cactus 😩

    • @jamishascott4854
      @jamishascott4854 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm going because my little sister keeps asking about it. Let's at least try to have a great time.

    • @arthurmacedo5708
      @arthurmacedo5708 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      sleep through it. is what i did when i was in the same situation when my mother wanted to what frozen 2

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If you are lucky someone will start a fight in the cinema, seems to be a common thing for little mermaid

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hm and get some good earplug to avoid the ear cancer rapping

  • @yodoleheehoo90
    @yodoleheehoo90 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've been reading fan fiction for over 15 years and I really believe the community gets really bad reputation from media because of its "smut" category and cringy stories between characters, but I can say with confidence I have read SAGAS written by very talented writers that don't get paid for their work that have ZERO romance or se*ual scenes happening within their stories! I myself am not a writer but an avid reader and have commended annonymous people online for their amazing talent and beautiful story telling!
    The fan fic writers are simply passionate about the fandoms they are into and many of them actually do a better job at creating scenarios that are more appropriate and logical to the main/official story while keeping the personalities and behaviors of such characters involved true to the source material!
    I have nothing but utter contempt to what hollyweird is doing to beloved franchises and individual characters trying to pander to THE MESSAGE that I just stay away from most films these days, especially the ones being made by Disney!!

  • @JabamiLain
    @JabamiLain ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The fact that actual fanfic writers whose stories I read passionately show more respect and care for the material they work on...The fact I, a newbie fanfic writer try my best to make the stories's writing become the stuff of art (or something close to it)...

  • @smoulderingflame8300
    @smoulderingflame8300 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm black and in not gonna lie having a black Ariel, Velma really is just an act to stir up controversy it just put the icing on the cake Hollywood really Is dead
    We really need to bring back originality instead of an easy money grab

    • @AJ-xc4qe
      @AJ-xc4qe ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There are toxic woke people like Harriyanna Hook who believe non-Black people won't care about Black media even if they blackwash established non-Black characters in an adaptation of things they DO care about. Which is exactly why so many people in minorities support raceswapping. I'm Black and I believe we shouldn't have to swap established traits in characters for the sake of diversity. And I don't have a great social life, but I know there are Black movies/TV shows/books that non-Black people actually care about Girls Trip or Power or Atlanta.

  • @aku2136
    @aku2136 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Comeon Nutsa lets be honest here, a 13 year olds fanfiction got more passion put into it than the latest dinesy movies

    • @officialmonarchmusic
      @officialmonarchmusic ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I was a 13 year old not that long ago, and I had plenty of fan fiction filled with passion. Still do

    • @aku2136
      @aku2136 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@officialmonarchmusic thats good to hear, keep up the great work

    • @officialmonarchmusic
      @officialmonarchmusic ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@aku2136 Thank you! I will. Also working on post production for first short film!

    • @draketheduelist
      @draketheduelist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@officialmonarchmusic I don't want to think about what a 13-year-old's interpretation of someone else's work is "oozing" with...
      Ledger Joker: "Very poor choice of words."

    • @officialmonarchmusic
      @officialmonarchmusic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@draketheduelistI guess you are right

  • @fmc291
    @fmc291 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    There’s a Trinidadian Fairytale, that is inspired by The Little Mermaid called “Once On This Island” the musical has amazing music and songs derived from trinidad and even has a traditional Trinidadian dance number. Disney purchased the film right, three years ago. The book that inspired the musical Calle “My Love My Love” was written by a woman of color. So much for all that “let’s support women creators of color”.

    • @AJ-xc4qe
      @AJ-xc4qe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are toxic woke people like Harriyanna Hook who believe non-Black people won't care about Black media even if they blackwash established non-Black characters in an adaptation of things they DO care about. Which is exactly why so many people in minorities support raceswapping. I'm Black and I believe we shouldn't have to swap established traits in characters for the sake of diversity. And I don't have a great social life, but I know there are Black movies/TV shows/books that non-Black people actually care about Girls Trip or Power or Atlanta.

  • @vincentspiezio8854
    @vincentspiezio8854 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Two things. I think in order to enjoy No Way Home, you had to have been there for all of it. I was a huge fan of the first Tobey movie way back in high school. And I saw them all progress over the years. I followed the drama and disappointment of Spider-man 3 and The Amazing Spider-man 2. While Endgame was the culmination of 11 years of storytelling, No Way Home was the culmination of almost 20 years of storytelling. And the fact that they actually pulled off getting all these actors together and keeping it a secret. It was like Hollywood through me a surprise party.

    • @Nemamka
      @Nemamka ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, some movies are just not made (only) for people under 30, and genz and younger kids just have to accept that they won't be able to feel the intent of nostalgia as much as millennials/elder millennials or gen x comic book geeks.

    • @johnhoney5089
      @johnhoney5089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Nemamka Every movie these days is made for people 30-40 and over. Jurassic World began this all in 2015.
      That said, Gen Z would have nostalgia for Tobey spiderman. They would have grown up on Spider-Man 3 or their sibling's copies of the first two.
      My older brothers constantly played those movies, so I grew up on them (especially Spider-Man 3 - still an underrated movie). They were the only thing I could watch for ages besides Spirit, The Lion King and Brother Bear.

    • @alexhayden219
      @alexhayden219 ปีที่แล้ว

      What was the second thing?

  • @willek1335
    @willek1335 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Instead of fanfiction, perhaps critical fiction is a more apt name for Hollywood?

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      low-effort cash grab is what it is

    • @ghostprojekt
      @ghostprojekt ปีที่แล้ว

      More like REEEEEEtarded fiction (emphasis on the reee)

    • @Passolargo_Junior
      @Passolargo_Junior ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Maybe spam-movie: they keep coming back even after you deleting them from your inbox.

    • @LordofSadFac
      @LordofSadFac ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I call it HateFiction as it is based on hatred and disdain over the original characters and how they succeed contrary to the new and more diverse characters.

    • @Rezzanine
      @Rezzanine ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Corporate Anti-Fan Fiction

  • @darquelis72
    @darquelis72 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is not only the "fanfiction era" it's much worse... It's the "OCC/y-n ft. Omegaverse fanfiction era"

  • @superanimegamer01
    @superanimegamer01 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    So happy that EFAP introduced you to me. Well written, articulate, and fantastic editing. Keep up the great work Nutsa!

    • @alexfriedman918
      @alexfriedman918 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I actually found this channel by accident, a few months ago - but it’s great that she was on EFAP!

    • @TheDreamDetective888
      @TheDreamDetective888 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@alexfriedman918 ditto

  • @mrbigglezworth42
    @mrbigglezworth42 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The saddest part about all of this isn't that it's like fan-fiction, it's official canon. We're watching various pieces of popular culture get destroyed as casually as one might squash a fly.

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fan fiction can be ignored, that's the nice part about it you don't have to care if you disagree.

    • @Justmonika6969
      @Justmonika6969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah it's difficult to ignore these massive blotches on franchises. As much as we try to ignore them, they are still apart of the things we love and will affect our future view as well as our entire species view of these franchises going forward.

    • @adampkalb
      @adampkalb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Justmonika6969 Not if the remakes fail to stand the test of time compared to the classic they try to remake.

  • @captainiceberg8637
    @captainiceberg8637 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Excellent appearance on EFAP. Pip pip!

  • @TheCapedWanderer
    @TheCapedWanderer ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love your use of arcane lore like Mark saying “it’s a woman” or George flapping the guy out the door

  • @ibnuruk
    @ibnuruk ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Perfect conclusion! I am so glad you didn't just blame everything on "wokeness" as is the trend is these days. Your conclusion is much more sensible and satisfying of an answer than just "let's blame it on catering to a modern audience and being diverse". Diversity never hurt art if it made sense to be so diverse. Its the lack of respect in depicting such things and relying on pumping money into it which is the problem. Fundamentally what is wrong with a feminine, or black, or gay or disabled or neurodiverse etc. protagonist to carry your plot? Nothing. What's wrong with making that character a narcissistic piece of trash that is supposedly flawless and everything around them is to blame? Everything.

  • @shalashaska7237
    @shalashaska7237 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    wake up honey, new nutsa essay is out
    EDIT: okay I’ve watched it now, had a good time. I’ve reached a point where, like many, I just see every announcement about a movie or a show and I ask myself « How are they going to screw up ». I used to love cinema.
    I considered that maybe I had gotten too old for it but in the end, it’s just that they keep on releasing shitty easy money grabs. They just simply don’t give a shit, it turned into « Well, what should we adapt? What sequel should we produce? » without giving a single fuck about the source material or the original authors.
    We’re in an era in which some writers have the gall to claim that they can actually do better than those who created what they’re adapting. Take that god awful Witcher show for instance, they didn’t give a fuck about the source material, their ego made them think they could do better, that their own shit could be better, that it was superior to what they merely had to adapt from the books they took the name from.
    I’ve had more fun watching short movies, fan films, reading fan fictions that actually respect and showcase the love for the source material than I had in any cinema in the last couple of years.

    • @lucaspressacco1107
      @lucaspressacco1107 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but cinema is not only hollywood stuff lol there is plenty of good stuff out there if you actually look for it :)

    • @shalashaska7237
      @shalashaska7237 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lucaspressacco1107 Of course, but I’m mostly talking about mainstream cinema and its poor adaptations. I also personally think that valuable and interesting movies that are an actual work of passion tend to be buried. having to look for them is sad considering that they’re far more creative and bold than most of what Hollywood may offer us. They usually don’t get the credit they’re owed.
      I should have worded it better though!

    • @radmar21405
      @radmar21405 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah. I watched a short movie the other day, and it was absolutely, mild-blowingly, amazing. "BEYOND - sci-fi short film _ Joe Penna", it is called. Best spent 45 minutes of my life. What Disney is doing nowadays, I don't even.

    • @lucaspressacco1107
      @lucaspressacco1107 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shalashaska7237 yeahh i get your point too, hollywood and mainstream shit is extremely shallow and boring :(

    • @lucaspressacco1107
      @lucaspressacco1107 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@radmar21405 awesome! I'll check that out

  • @evald1474
    @evald1474 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just you wait. Disney will eventually release animated remakes of the live action remakes of their animated classics. Disney Animation Studios' The Lion King (starring Lizzo as Simba, Jack Black as Mufasa, and Brie Larson as Scar) is just around the corner...

  • @Bioshockaholic
    @Bioshockaholic ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’d just suggest to everyone to try and never become FULLY jaded. Yes this it the faze for now, but even within that, there are still gems.

  • @gioiacolli3407
    @gioiacolli3407 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Oh my god not again" is a HP fanfic that's a million times better than whatever the new series will be.

  • @TheDreamDetective888
    @TheDreamDetective888 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1. You're really good at this.
    2. Appreciate you including the Doors
    3. Thank you for calling out the representation dilemma and Holywood's gross relationship with it.
    4. I would also highlight that they have made sure to always add a one-way sociopathic revenge fantasy on "men" or "whites". They pair exalting one group with degrading another.

  • @echoesofthevoice9570
    @echoesofthevoice9570 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This reminds me of that Wheel of Time "adaptation" that Amazon produced. They took a wonderfully crafted book, with a compelling narrative, lovable characters, and some of the most beautiful prose I've ever read, and completely botched it. They tore out plot points that would be essential down the line, saying there wasn't enough time to do everything that the book did, but then introduced original plot points that were completely pointless in the grand scheme of things. They especially did the characters dirty, making many of them much more unlikable, especially the Two Rivers boys. Yeah, in the books, they were inexperienced adventurers, but they had balls when it counted. In the show, they're whiny, pathetic, useless, spineless cowards. Even defenders of the show had to admit there were many changes made, some even saying that this isn't the direct story, but another turning of the Wheel of Time (for those who don't know, time literally repeats itself every seven ages with small variations). If that's the case, then do you know what that makes the "adaptation" of the Wheel of Time? That's right, a fanfiction. But that would imply that the creators are fans of the books. They are not. In fact, the show's producer openly shows disdain for the fans of the books, as well as the books themselves, to the point where he said he would kill off characters if enough people made "bigoted" remarks of the show.
    TL;DR - Amazon's the Wheel of Time is a piss-poor "fanfiction" that sacrifices an incredible book series on the altar of wokeness. Seriously, I can't recommend the books enough, but avoid the show like the plague.

    • @darthgamer9861
      @darthgamer9861 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      late, but the backlash that “adaptation” received actually caused me to pickup the first book, so uh, thanks Amazon?

  • @Vespyr_
    @Vespyr_ ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's all due to the ESG score. Disney (and many others) get financial incentives from BlackRock and other investment firms for checking off diversity boxes in a kind of social credit system. "Does the ends justify the means" financially? Yes. They are held hostage by this or they won't get loans for their operations. It's the root of this entire issue.

    • @Hello-bi1pm
      @Hello-bi1pm ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They can get high ESG score by making original diverse productions. It's just a perfect storm of corporate thinking.

  • @AsgardianValkyrie12
    @AsgardianValkyrie12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You're right. Hollywood/Disney has lost passion and creativity. It's all about money and to build up controversy. Everything is political and it has to be their way or you are "sexist/racist/etc." It's very sad that it all comes down to this and I am glad the audience is waking up. It's been like this since the early 2010's, now it's just full blown on any platform. It's pathetic that I can maybe find 1 or 2 titles a year I can maybe enjoy or consider watching, when back in the days every year had atleast 10 titles worth remembering and talk about with your friends/family. These people at Hollywood/Disney suck just like you said, they have zero passion and hate people that really have an artistic drive. They select the worse scenarios and untalented actors and push out more worthless sequels/remakes. It's like they hate their job and they still want you to spend money for their lazy work or they start calling audiences names. We live in dark times, eventho we have so much technology, the people pushing out entertainment have a serious plan to make their audiences depressed and hopeless. It's demonic.

  • @josemiguelsanchezgalviz7593
    @josemiguelsanchezgalviz7593 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Two things, first i completely love of nutsa makes her videos, and second it is so good to see someone say a different reason why movies suck nowadays, well not different reason but a different way of saying it, shows how nutsa sees things differently and i have to say that she is very correct in everything she says in the video

  • @blondetapperware8289
    @blondetapperware8289 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It's a shame because as a fan in the Reylo community as the sequels were coming out, we poured so much time and energy into theories and artwork that were genuinely intriguing and came from a place of actual love and understanding for the characters, and yet by the time of the RoS, we were genuinely dumbfounded. How could it be that their own characters that they established, they wrote for years, be so.. wasted in the cheapest ways? Even those who actually stuck by their work and writing as the films came out ended up being disappointed by their lack of ingenuity. No one wins. And now with this new film being announced being set a frickin *fifteen years* after the last time we saw Rey.. it's sad to say I'm not even that shocked. At this point, I'm just setting myself up for more disappointment because that's all they have given me.
    One good thing I can claim about this, though, is that it's given me ambition to work on my own writing where I can control the characters and story, writing something they easily could have.

    • @Zhohan-
      @Zhohan- ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do yourself a favor and don’t watch it

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've ran into this issue a few many times, writers who like to lead you on with interesting stories just to come to some of the worst conclusions.
      Like the rose is pink diamond thing in steven universe, like sure that was an interesting fan theory, till it became cannon and ripped a massive hole in the story.

    • @Wyzai
      @Wyzai ปีที่แล้ว

      new writers are quickly running out of competition.

  • @InTheDemonsWake
    @InTheDemonsWake ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To be fair, the one exception to the rule is Mike and Bryan from Avatar. They did Korra themselves with no prompting so thats honestly even worse.

    • @darthgamer9861
      @darthgamer9861 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel everyone forgot just how many veteran writers were brought on to make the original Avatar great. Not to downplay what the original creators did, but everyone sort of assumed that they did the whole thing themselves

    • @InTheDemonsWake
      @InTheDemonsWake ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darthgamer9861 oh don't get me wrong, I've always thought Aaron Ehasz was the real brains behind ATLA. I just wanted to point out Bryke's incompetence.

    • @darthgamer9861
      @darthgamer9861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@InTheDemonsWake believe me, I want to ask Bryan how he went from Avatar to Korra. what a dumpster fire

  • @victorcates9330
    @victorcates9330 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kubrick routinely adapted stuff. But he was a technical and creative genius. If you imitate something and suck, you're going to wind up with a poor facsimile. If you don't actually like the original work, you're going to mutilate it out of hatred or personal vanity. Adapting a little-known work allows you to get a story structure or themes that work. Adapting a well-known work gives you a benchmark against which to fail.

  • @GreenDude_Gaming
    @GreenDude_Gaming ปีที่แล้ว +3

    to quote Tolkien “Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”

  • @GwubbySketch
    @GwubbySketch ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think of this phase/era as either the soulless era or just the Anti-Artistic era of filmmaking. Out of all of the good films out right now, there’s always that one movie it TV show that’s not driven by hate it malice or an intent to piss people off, but just simple misguidance.

  • @UnvisibleINK
    @UnvisibleINK ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is one of the best video essays I've seen in a while. It reminded me of a good punk EP; smart, snarky, unapologetic, gets to the point and drills it home in under 15 minutes. Most importantly, it told the truth. Always nice to watch something that doesn't feel like it was written by a potato.

  • @SpaceXplorer13
    @SpaceXplorer13 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember watching the animated The Jungle Book on TV, and then the live action The Jungle Book. Yes, the story of the live action was a bit jumbled up, but it was a fine movie overall. I thought good of it, and that led me to check out the other live action remakes. Never again.

  • @minejack7773
    @minejack7773 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Jesus christ the editing on this video is incredible!!!! And I agree with a good ~90% of what was stated. I'm sincerely hoping the next generation of film makers will learn from the creative errors made in this age of film. Excellent video as usual!! :D

  • @annaptakova3242
    @annaptakova3242 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think a somewhat example of this is The Cursed Child. It is originally a fanfiction, and I would argue a really good one. But that's it - it's a good FANFICTION. It sucks so bad as an official story.

  • @DragonLandlord
    @DragonLandlord ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The irony of the Indy5 reviews calling it bad fanfiction. 😙 perfect timing.

  • @AmitCinematicUniverse
    @AmitCinematicUniverse ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:33 Thank you.
    As a fanfiction writer and a famous fanfiction promoter, I am offended by people using the word "fanfiction" as a way to describe bad writing.

  • @Ceyx000
    @Ceyx000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "iT's NoT a PhAsE mA!"
    Unimaginative lecturetainment.

  • @bejo5359
    @bejo5359 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It really is how this era of film shall be remembered 10 years from now.
    The fanfiction era...
    Fuck.

  • @dancebrittany23
    @dancebrittany23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thing is, the live action Little Mermaid did not and is not going to make near as much money as anticipated. So the idea these remakes are an instant cash cow is starting to topple. Hopefully for the best

  • @Impractical0
    @Impractical0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Glad to have ya back nuts

  • @ThePoisonSteel
    @ThePoisonSteel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I watch well-scripted/edited videos like this and the movies in question and realize something. We're at the point where there are people on TH-cam that ONLY make videos because they're passionate about the art of video creation, yet make infinitely better content than billion dollar companies with more money, time, and resources than anyone could imagine.
    I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing... And then I realize that it's just Hollywood and Twitter that are.

  • @gregre99
    @gregre99 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I know everyone is liking the editing but it's giving me a headache.
    It feels like a very fast-paced 14-minute-long TikTok transition.
    I'm 23 am I already too old? I feel too old
    (p.s. the video script is very good, always good stuff Nutsa. I too am getting tired of remakes, 3D versions of Disney classics, ugly spinoffs and sequels no one ever asked for or wanted)

  • @theknave4415
    @theknave4415 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Comic books went through a similar phase. Once all of the old IPs were wrung dry, the writers and editors switched to time travel and multiple universes.
    Originality and creativity are very difficult, regardless of medium or genre.

  • @silvernova354
    @silvernova354 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As you said, the patience of the public (normies, if you will) is wearing extremely thin with this sort of lazy, biased and hateful content. When I went to see The Force Awakens back in 2015, I was excited and ready to jump on board with a new SW adventure. Now, anything that wafts out of Hollywood is instantly expected to be terrible when I hear of it, and I would require some damn good word of mouth, from people that I trust, to convince me otherwise.

  • @moathelbakary7698
    @moathelbakary7698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seriously great video, editing, script, and delivery all on point.
    The biggest problem isn't that passion is dying, it's that all the money that goes into the entertainment industry goes to people who don't have passion. People who do have passion for the art of filmmaking, story writing, animation aren't given the chance to express their creativity and passion because it doesn't guarantee money.
    Nutsa said it right, the people in charge are businessmen and not artists, which just sucks.

  • @alejandronieto4212
    @alejandronieto4212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I have been waiting for somebody else to say this for AGES!
    It IS about the money, not about sending a message.

  • @highcaliburx3751
    @highcaliburx3751 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice reference for the video title

  • @kodeypatterson8973
    @kodeypatterson8973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great video. “Authorized fan fiction” is an insult to fan fiction.
    Also, your take on controversy=free marketing. Great. Spot on.

  • @constantinosstylianou
    @constantinosstylianou ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Nutsa! I think you're absolutely right, simply calling it the fan-fiction phase does not capture the cynicism of the studios and, often, the creatives behind all these abominations.

  • @Letsjustnot9597
    @Letsjustnot9597 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Difference between fanfic authors and Hollywood directors and producers is that it doesn’t matter if they lose an arm or leg, almost die, get hit by a car, or get cancer, they will finish their fanfiction no matter what and they’re not making money. Hollywood directors and producers could care less about their properties as long as it makes money.

  • @TheCapedWanderer
    @TheCapedWanderer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic essay as always, and the chain of video clips runs alongside like a parallel train of thought, elaborating your spoken points as we go. Twice the medium; double the meaning.

  • @ModifyBankai
    @ModifyBankai ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd like to offer the name Foefiction for this phase.
    Because the people who make these absolutely hate the source material lol

    • @Rezzanine
      @Rezzanine ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like that. It can also work as a play on "Faux-Fiction"

    • @laughingseagull000
      @laughingseagull000 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I like this more than hatefiction.

  • @Spudcore
    @Spudcore ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellently edited and presented. You have mad skills.

  • @ClawlessnessScizor
    @ClawlessnessScizor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    13:09 - 13:16 This is the realest thing that anyone has said about movies as of late.

    • @Rezzanine
      @Rezzanine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely. This is a skills/passion issue on the part of the creative teams. Hollywood is so obsessed with narratives that it's forgotten how to tell a story.

  • @alexhayden219
    @alexhayden219 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was EXCELLENT, Nutsa. Both the script and the editing. Very astute commentary.

  • @Nemamka
    @Nemamka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well hello there, I loved this!!! Very good comparison and nicely put together.
    Out of all of these examples, there were two, TWO (2!!) that were worth it, and it was Mad Max Fury Road and Blade Runner 2049. They were the only ones that kind of turned around their originals' sexism and weird r*py shit and made sense on their own, and were also visually just amazingly done.
    Other than these, everything they've touched from he 70s and 80s since 2000, was just super botched up, and I can't even understand why. There are many movies from the 70s-80s that are already remakes of even older movies, from the 20s and from the 50s. But that made sense because technology had just developed so much with the surgence of computers that of course they tried all kind of stuff and revisit what couldn't have been executed before.
    Now? We are literal gods when it comes to CGI or prosthetic special effects or makeup or camera quality or sound design, and yet the stories suffer because we forgot how to SHOOT AND EDIT A SCENE SO THAT IT HAS THE DESIRED EMOTIONAL EFFECT?! I am forever going to be baffled over this, this is a specific example that you can find if you compare the old Ghostbusters to the new one (I've seen a video about it on here but I unfortunately forgot who made it :')) but there are many more. I don't care about whatever was changed about the characters, I care about why the directors actually freaking _forgot_ how to direct cameramen anymore! I was never even a film major or an arts student and even I know that there are cues, visual storytelling devices that _have to be used_ otherwise your film is like free verse or something. You either follow or twist those rules but you have to _use_ them to call your art piece a film :D There is just no way around this, film is actually a very... how to say, specifically restricted art form. You can do so many things with it, but like, the _telling of_ the story in it _has to_ make sense within a set of rules considering 3 dimensions and timing.
    This is why I'm able to watch 80's movies and enjoy the fuck out of them, even if they're """problematic""" (you can find SO MANY that aren't, though, like at all) because they're just so much better in this regard. And yes they were silly and campy and sometimes you would hear a word that today is a slur - but honestly, as long as you're aware of these, they are so much more engaging, even the old action movies that were made to just turn your mind off. I've actually been training myself and my eyes with 70s-80s films (and 90's anime :D) for some months now and it's been a blast, almost like healing. They were just... stories. Good stories to live through and think about and relate to. Nothing about them reeked of sweat to appeal to some checklist to be considered "okay" or get a pass mark. (And when people say representation got better over the last half century, I have to laugh. Actresses are expected to be JUST AS thin, if not thinner, and in major franchizes, BARELY are we touching anything LGBT or intersectional, so pfff)
    Fanfiction would never go through such a deep dive over 50 years lmao, bitch, we know where to focus and what to highlight, _and_ we are not paid millions of dollars. Truly ~astonishing to watch what's been happening :/

  • @notwise9455
    @notwise9455 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best description I've got is fast food

  • @lordapex5288
    @lordapex5288 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad to see another of your videos!

  • @tyronecriss23
    @tyronecriss23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s so blatant that it’s cringe, all these shows and movies feel like bad DeviantArt posts.

  • @noaccount4
    @noaccount4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine having the kind of money to buy LOTR and try and make your fanfic more canon than Tolkein

  • @MeBePirates
    @MeBePirates ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Incredibly good rant! Love it! Thank you!
    Also you have a gorgeous voice. 🥺💕

  • @sanctamachina
    @sanctamachina ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I could not disagree more with the conclusion. The source is the numerous statements that we've had from the creators and leads both overtly in front of cameras and more behind the scenes statements. There is absolutely a degree of controversy as a marketing strategy, but more than that there is a genuinely large amount of people involved in the House of Mouse who specifically wish to push ideological boundaries without respect to profit.

  • @MatanVil
    @MatanVil ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is funny is that the "fanfiction of a fanfiction" that will going to be the New Jedi Order movie was almost written by the Damon Lindelof, the guy who did the best Hollywood fanfiction in the form of HBO Watchmen.

    • @wilberwhateley7569
      @wilberwhateley7569 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean “A show that has almost nothing to do with Watchmen” - right?

  • @JoseMendoza-df1ld
    @JoseMendoza-df1ld ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel bad for all the people that don't like anime amd K dramas, there's an entire world of entertainment they're missing out on.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have online acquaintances who watch classic Bollywood movies every so often.
      As one of the few non-Indian viewers of the tried and refused productions channel, I am currently prouder that the channel’s host now has more fans than ever before.

  • @officialmonarchmusic
    @officialmonarchmusic ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You were showing only live action for the awful Star Wars projects. The team behind shows like The Bad Batch and the Jedi games are actually quite talented and have created actually breathtaking projects. Plus Andor. There's certainly still a lot to love

    • @saltysyd99
      @saltysyd99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i agree wholeheartedly! I think the best Star Wars is made by people who are truly passionate about it, and it shows. Hopefully future projects can pick up on that too.

    • @officialmonarchmusic
      @officialmonarchmusic ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@saltysyd99 Yeah. I've also found that usually whatever is under-the-radar tends to turn out better. Rogue One starts as this side project, and it's set to turn out great! The Disney pays more attention to it, fires the OG director, and it turns out good. Then it is a smash hit and Disney plans to make 20 something standalone films. Solo bombs, and they cancel them in a hurry. This little side project called "The Mandalorian" is a surprise success in its first season, Disney goes all out on the Mandoverse... etc. Animation and video games are usually under the radar, for unfair reasons, (though that may be a positive thing here) but as a result, they usually turn out great, a product of a creative team who are unimpeded and actually care. The sequel trilogy was always going to be over the radar though 🙁

    • @saltysyd99
      @saltysyd99 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Monarch Music That is actually a very good point. As soon as money becomes the main focus rather than storytelling, quality obviously starts to decline. With Bad Batch, it's not as popular as other shows, but the fans that love it really love it a lot. Unfortunately, since it's probably not making nearly as much money as Mando would, the third season will be its last. But I guess having a solid three seasons is better than stretching it out unnecessarily just for profit. I feel like you can really see the passion in Bad Batch through the quality and attention to detail, and I've read interviews with the production team and you can tell they love it so much, not because of the money, but because they love the story they get to tell. We need more people like this in the industry. Not just on small projects but instead directing companies as a whole.

    • @officialmonarchmusic
      @officialmonarchmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saltysyd99 I agree. I also think the thing is that these people will never be able to passionately lead several projects at a time. It is the people making them that do. Take Filoni, you give him a project like Tales of the Jedi, and he knocks it out of the park. Give him an expansive universe, and he leads it with Favreau in a content-over-quality manner.
      I think that the Bad Batch is coming to a close because the creatives (and I mean that, they are in fact, creative) genuinely think it is the perfect place to cap off the story. There are still beautiful projects in the works, and I can’t wait to see what these people will do.

    • @saltysyd99
      @saltysyd99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@officialmonarchmusic Agreed! I'm excited to see what Star Wars has in store for us! :)

  • @occultnightingale1106
    @occultnightingale1106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God, I hope this really is *just a phase* that is eventually grown out of. Otherwise, it might be a good idea to put Ol' Yeller down for good.

  • @WillFredward7167
    @WillFredward7167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best fanfiction shows deep respect for the source material, deep *understanding* for the source material, and is a genuine gift to all other fans. So you are correct, the fan-fiction Hollywood demands we pay for is genuinely bad

  • @mranderson9813
    @mranderson9813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to have ya back Nutsa

  • @campbellpaterson5003
    @campbellpaterson5003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Panther Dance by Michael Jackson in Black or White really summarises my feeling on these remakes and amateur "fan fictions".

  • @nicksothep8472
    @nicksothep8472 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My gawd! I'm binging your videos and each one is written better than the previous, I'm fully aware I'm starting to sound like a broken rekord, but Jesus Fkn Christ, you're so good, you're so entertaining because for a change you're so clever, your analysis are absolutely on point, totally spotless. I don't understand why the algorithm is punishing you, it makes no sense, and I suspect you've been demonetized too because I haven't seen a single ad in either of your videos, and granted I hate ads, I understand they are fundamental for creators to keep working, particularly for those with lower numbers.
    So for the tenth time: wishing you all the best, your talent deserves to be on top!!! 👍🏻🖤🏴‍☠️

  • @samoharachilds
    @samoharachilds 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your excellence & analysis helps my cognitive assonance immensely

  • @notsostealthmission5184
    @notsostealthmission5184 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The thing that sucks about sequels like Star Wars 7-9 is that they can’t be undone. Once they make new sequels that nobody asked for, that will not be undone either

    • @wilberwhateley7569
      @wilberwhateley7569 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry, you must be confused - there was no “Star Wars” sequels 7-9. They simply do not exist in spite of whatever Disney says on the subject…

  • @NightDreamer37
    @NightDreamer37 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking at the stark contrast between the first Thor movie, and Love and Thunder, it just makes me sick. Felt like someone who didn't know Thor made a Thor movie

  • @Fanatical_Empathy
    @Fanatical_Empathy ปีที่แล้ว

    Completely Agree. I've been using the term "Fan fiction" to describe Hollywood for any film that deviates from character or purpose to the story. Some cuts/changes make sense for pacing and continuity, we don't have 18 hours to sit in a theatre like we do at home with a book, or to reduce a whole 40 hours of television to a single 2 hour morsel one can consume and feel like they got something out of it... Uhh. Nah, Hollywood makes expensive safe and un-interesting content. Nolan does ok. 1917 was a great feat of story, pacing, non centric charicterizations. Just wow. I wish Nolan had his own group of film makers. (Perhaps they do) Any way I am greatful for your amazing as always presentation and choice of words. you never devolve into a hating parade and I appreciate that. I also appreciate that you just want good stories to get thier chance to get told and not all this reconstituted zombie corpse sausage Hollywood serves us now. -A loving Human

  • @benjamintherogue2421
    @benjamintherogue2421 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw you on the last EFAP about The Marvels. Since I hadn't seen you before I came over to check what kind of content you put out. I have to say, I really like your presentation. I'm happy to subscribe to this channel. Keep up the good work. It's paying off.

  • @arksuren_
    @arksuren_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just realised that since the only thing i watched about velma is the great Avocado Animations video, i actually have a good memory in my brain when i see indian velma. i feel guilthy for that honestly

  • @RTL2L
    @RTL2L ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis, thank you!

  • @PsychedelicDude
    @PsychedelicDude ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Everything you said was very well put!

  • @BigGreyDonut
    @BigGreyDonut 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These videos are really well done. I’m just going through everything rn.

  • @cedricfowler3465
    @cedricfowler3465 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel really sorry for these projects' actors. They have to defend the films regardless of quality and probably know their casting was a cynical move to maximize profit & outrage.

  • @danamania150
    @danamania150 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a fanfic writer I feel so seen that you mentioned Wattpad, AO3, and FFn in one video 😂❤️

  • @somedandy7694
    @somedandy7694 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I want to make a passion-project!"
    "Why do that when we can just project passion?"

  • @ronaldfreeman1787
    @ronaldfreeman1787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wrote fanfics and short stories when I was at university. I expect to be paid by Hollywood.

  • @melonyrobinson9944
    @melonyrobinson9944 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great video essay content-wise, but I just wanted to say the editing is fantastic!

  • @erinaltstadt4234
    @erinaltstadt4234 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for articulating it for me, they are beneath most fanfiction writers, it’s an insult to fanfiction to compare it to current Hollywood. Most 14 year olds writing fanfiction put in more effort, and accept criticism with more graciousness than these writers/directors/producers… FOR FREE!!!!