War has a way of wearing down the most weathered soldiers. For legendary Horde warrior Varok Saurfang, this one could very well be his last. WorldofWarcraft... Subscribe! www.youtube.com...
I'm convinced more than ever that Blizzard should just make a full length animated movie. This 6 minute clip was amazingly cinematic and beautifully directed.
That's exactly what everyone was hoping for when they first announced a warcraft movie. Hoping they don't mistake the failure of a live-action azeroth for a lack of interest in any warcraft movie at all.
A Warcraft TV series would be way better. Movies force you to limit things which is why the film wasn't as enjoyable. TV Series can evolve much like the MMO has.
Gotta say, really wish there were more cinematics like this. A slower pace with story and character. I love the regular cinematics with amazing action but I also love these smaller, more personal story cinematics. PLEASE MORE LIKE THIS!
I wish they made a tv series like this. 12 episodes per season and each episode being around 20 mins long. Showing us the stories we've come to know and love like Arthas or even recreating the Warcraft movie and continuing forward. Even with the animation being at Vanilla's cinematic level it would be amazing and slightly easier. *That is my dream.*
@WolraadWoltemade 1652 He led the Alliance and Horde against Ahn'Qiraj in Classic, and later led the Horde against the Lich King in Wrath of the Lich King. His son was killed in action and resurrected as Deathbringer Saurfang, a boss in Icecrown Citadel, that should explain Varok's memory in the cinematic. Back in the day there were a lot of Chuck Norris style memes about Varok Saurfang and how badass he is. I don't think he was prominent before WoW, but canonically he also fought in the third war (Warcraft 3), and probably the wars before that.
@@Deolrin I believe ive read hes fought in all four wars now, im not sure but the WOD cinematic goes back only 35 years so thats a inkling towards that.
Characters like Saurfang is why I respect Horde even though I play Alliance. He's been a badass all of his life, and his brother was the only mortal to have ever wounded Sargeras. His son died a death worthy of an orc, only to have his soul stolen and then turned into a death knight. Varok Saurfang, aka Saurfang Sr. Is an orc with regrets in his long life, and wishes to live and die with honor, and seeing how close he was to throwing his life away made me feel sad to see how disillusioned he was with the Horde's direction. I'm glad they put this young troll in there because he represents the new blood, those members of the Horde who have not yet sullied their hands with blood in battle, and who want to find something to rally to, and I think Saurfang realized how important he is to this generation of Hordies, who idolize him as a war hero, and maybe saw that the Horde still has hope of being lead back into a Horde of honor and comdradery
Yup, and I like the parallels with his brother Broxigar who also kept trying to die with honor, but always survived. Brox kept on doing that even after being sent to the past, and his bravery encouraged the defenders of Azeroths figthing the Legion, and then he went on and blocked Sargeras' path, saving Azeroth from its likely destruction at that time had Sargerous traversed the portal. Broxigar used to be in the exact same situation as Varok, but he went a diverging path by being the eternal hero who saved the world and died with the greatest of honor while his little brother will live on and be a living hero to his people and lead them to greatness.
You nailed it right on the head. I've played both Horde and Alliance. There is no true enemy here. Those who are corrupted are the enemy. Horde will sadly always be seen as the bad guys because of certain 'leadership'. But that's why I love the lore for. It has more in depth to it. I've played Aion, and beginning levels you saw the lore. Then as you maxed yourself in the game, the lore is non-existent. And this what saddens me...It has nothing on WoW.
Varok Saurfang, an orc with a horrific past of inflicting and suffering tragedy. His mate, older brother (Broxigar the Red), and son (Dranosh) are all gone, and now in his eyes, the Horde he loves is gone. He’s an old man in a race of people where most die young in battle. I really encourage people to read this guy’s lore.
@@jinpachibobochan3532 I don't think he has "his own" book or a major role in any so far. But he has appearances in many as well as in various short stories etc. You can really just Google his name and can dig into a lot of stories and lore around him. It's really worth it!
@@TurtleTime26 He "saved" him from a choice he made by himself. And it's not suicide, it's a ritual death. For once going to death to with his head held high for himself.
"Honor, young heroes. No matter how dire the battle, never forsake it". Still putting out hope that one day we'll get a proper, full length WoW movie done like this. Beats live action any day!
Seriously though the fact that Saurfang unlike everyone else gets a full on Cinematic makes me think he's the most important character of the expansion, this stuff takes AGES to make.
Here again, after his warrior death. He's finally able to rest with his son and brother. *Farewell Varok Saurfang* the true image of honor. *LOK'TAR OGAR*
Member Berry Maybe you should find something better to do then try and make other people feel bad. At least he is passionate about something, enough to share his feelings about a beloved character here with us. Perhaps, you should find something better to do. You get a life.
This is something we needed. Perspective from the horde besides Sylvanas. I loved the young newblood troll who represents the Horde who are desperate for a symbol that shows honour still means something in this war, he doesn't want Saurfang to throw himself to the side or give up because that would mean he gives up on everything.. not only himself but also the Horde as a whole. He got sick of it all, His past is filled with regret; namely the draenei slaughter and likely fighting under Garrosh, he thought it was finally over and here he is once more; another event where dozens of innocents are slaugthered and he is partially responsible. But most importantly he is denied his honourable death. He saw no more value in it; he gave up and you get where he is coming from: His son Dranosh died in a 1v1 against the Lich King and his brother Broxigar died fighting Sargeras for crying out loud. But then this young troll shows Saurfang there is still something worth to fight for even if it isn't for his own death anymore but for the future of the Horde and he may perhaps find what he yearns for while trying to do just that. He is becoming a warrior that fights for something he believes rather then a warrior that fight for his own death. Not to mention the Dranosh feels.
A gorgeous CGI short with no action, no heroics and no spectacle - just a conversation and interaction between two characters. By far the best Blizzard has given us.
Action, heroics and spectacle is exactly what WoW is all about. The cinémati is nice and it's a good change of pace for once, but its in no way the best they've given... try Wotlk trailer instead, or any extension trailer except MoP
Hapsu I feel ya. I’m Alliance til I die but man, I cannot imagine how pissed Horde players must be. You guys deserve better. Wayyyyy better. I hope you get Saurfang next expac.
all races except the undead have something in common... the undead have a chip on their shoulder that will never go away, tho, in the Novel, some of the undead did show a different side, maybe there is hope, but I don't think so
"You have earned your warrior's death...my son. Yet once again, I am denied it." Your time finally came old timer, and you did not disappoint. For Azeroth!
He's going to prison to discuss honor with Anduin. Either Saurfang or Thrall will kill Sylvanas. I think she'll off Thrall, and Saurfang gets revenge. Calling it now! (Alliance player as well).
I just realized that is the shaman in the main cinematic. When saurfang gets back up and carries the flag forward the troll sees him and continues to fight! He needed saurfangs morale since it was his first battle! Well done blizz!
Kellen not only that but the moment Genn knocked out Saurfang in the cinematic, Genn gets zapped by the zappyboi right after. I smell some good bromance with zappy boi and saurfang. LoL
Letgoit2 it works well. Of all the legendary warriors Varok has fought with, it took a young, scared troll to remind him of the true spirit of the horde!!
it would be so expensive to make is the problem. I remember watching the behind the scenes of the legion cinematic trailer and i forgot what they exactly said but they said everything to a huge amount of time to make and i think thats why the warcraft movie wasnt full cgi
Joe, think how long the fans have been waiting for when it comes to the Warcraft movie. We're the fans who are willing to wait, despite so many being loud about speeding things up, the majority is willing to wait. As for the price to make it, well, they could sell some transmog items in the Blizz shop, people would buy them; as long as they're just appearance and nothing else, I'd say do it.
Expensive? At the height of WoW's popularity (12 million subscribers), at 15 bucks a month they were raking in 180 million EVERY MONTH. That's not far off from the budget of most high profile CGI-heavy feature films. One assumes Activision-Blizzard could easily foot the bill for a full movie of this caliber.
It's a huge risk involved when producing your own movie though. And they also have investors to answer to. It's not like they can on a whim say let's use all our resources on a CGI-based WoW movie.
I mean in all fairness, Saurfang is probably one of the only NPCs everyone (or nearly) likes--regardless of faction XD I'm strictly an Alliance player, but I have mad respect for Saurfang. He's the one person I will Lok'tar Ogar to.
Year later and I'm just realizing when Saurfang said "Too many." He was talking about all the night elfs that died in the flames, not the enemy across from them.
Could be both, but the fact that the troll said, "How many?" as opposed to "How many are there?" should be a giveaway and an opening to the interpretation.
why dont blizzard make full movies like this. and bash LOTR. you know theres millions wow follower is about time. make into movies, and book so our children can really enjoy.
I love the fact that Blizzard had a second part of the cinematic hidden inside their pocket all this time. Who came up with this brilliant idea deserves some credit.
the people who were bitching about the previous one almost sound like prophets, this cinematic delivered basically everything they would have wanted to hear out of Saurfang, at least in a way that makes sense for his character
Mannnn...I miss playing this game As u can tell I'm an old old (not in real life, I'm 15) admirer and veteran to this game, haven't played it since I think half a decade ago or so? "Never go easy on noobs unless they're your friends", - Me,2019.
Thia game is a distant memory for me now i played vanilla and bc Then private servers for lich king. Its been so long since ive played but fond memories for sure
@@tywinalexandercesaredanaed1819 Funny, I have played WoW 14 years ago... nearly before you even born :D And you would probably call me noob today. cause... i dont have enough time to grind
Please for the love of all that's holy... Make movies like this please. Who cares about the live action, let's see the telling of the WoW universe like this.
strandalx Most games haven't had as much lore fleshed out of them like Warcraft has. Warcraft has so many books and professional writers that it wouldn't be hard for a Director to take all the pieces and put them together. The one thing Blizzard needs to do is get a really good Director like Steven Spielberg, some one like him with creative counter of the movie and unlimited time would make an amazing movie.
Doesn't need a new story. The one it has can fill 6 movies even with all the fringe elements cut from it and still be awesome. There are a lot of players these days that don't know the story of WC1, WC2, WC3, and the first 3 versions of WoW (Vanilla, BC, WotLK). After all there, there's still Cata, MoP, Draenor, and Legion. You could make a cinematice franchise to rival Star Wars in it's length and complexity.
*High Lord Saurfang* abandoning his people to sit in an alliance cell. Only leaving his cell when implored to, by an alliance leader. No the horde deserves better than Saurfang, better than the Basnshe queen.
@@Infernal460 Had he gone with the horde champions and brought to Zandalar, he would've ended up in Sylvanas' hands. I don't think Nathanos would've let him leave the group so easily. Now, we don't know exactly what he has planned to do exactly, but he might be in a better place to work against Sylvanas then if he hadn't done what he did.
Agreed, its cause he isn't a Warbringer like sylvanas and jaina, there is a reason azshara is in the group as well its because they are bad people. lets not forget that jaina MURDERED every blood elf in dalaran even killing the dragonhawks so as to not allow them to escape.
Not "every blood elf". Jaina is reacting to events brought upon her, she never dealt the first strike. Sylvanas has always done what is best for her and only her. Jaina has always tried to seek peace but peace is a lie it will never exist.
sorry to burst your bubble. but i think he is going for a duel. a honorable/ suicidal duel. hence removing his armor and only wielding and axe. an orc tradition i think was no armor nor weapon. a Mak'gora but in the cinamatic when thrall and garrosh faught they used weapon, and thrall cheated and used the aid of the spirits and nature. in the Move Warcraft it was plain fist fight but Gul'dan cheated with use of fel magic. I aint much of an lore fan nor a faction fan (though i play alliance more then horde but got 5 endgame hordes) so thats only a opinion of mine. on the other hand. its true that the Forsake where only in the Horde for their own game. But i think a true Horde fan like the Horde as it was. that thrall wanted it to be and maintane. saurfang is one last i think ( just and opinion of mine ) that has such honor and wants that way back. not mass slaughter that holds no honor and potential genocide. thats why the Q that he gave in darkshore to get prisoners, innocent once that didnt take up arms to question them and release them afterward. cus thats honorable and thats the Horde that i like. not this that has been going on in legion and and in pandaria.
gallakall In a Mak'gora you can have one weapon of your choosing. Some state that the Challenger may choose both weapons even. But I think that your statement seems probable, considering he dropped his armor.. But who was to challenge, if Saurfang was looking for certain death?
He wanted a Mak'gora with the whole alliance army which would lead to his certain death. An honirable death at that. So that's what he wants, an honirable death to reclaim what's his - his honor
i know right I have seen heaps or starcraft ones, theyre great too yet i havent played starcraft since the original on a playstation in the late 90's lol
Without a doubt, the greatest thing Blizzard has produced - are these cinematics. The first one got me into the Game in the Beginning, and each one always makes my heart beat with longing even though I no longer play.❣️
I wish they could make a movie like this. It's moving, it's well done, and makes far more sense than any live action version. You can't rush the story, or the depth of the characters involved in the history of Azeroth. No live action movie is going to really get it right. I'm in love with this cinematic.
FireStar32005 i wish it too, but it costs 10 times more then a regular movie, and takes 10 times longer to make it. So i think that cinematics are all we gonna get in this frame for now.
Gees Blizzard, just make an animated warcraft movie. Not all things need to be live action. This short video is by far better than anything that's come out of hollywood.
With the kind of quality they put out in these short cinematics i imagine it'd be incredibly expensive doing a whole movie. I second your opinion, but I'm sure it's not easy
well as a 3d artist for the past 20 years.. and ive designed video games .. it probably took 20-50 skilled artists to work on this for at least 1-3 years... then you have the voice over artists, and the photoshop texture artists.. the video editting, the storyline.. you have an entire team created just to create this short cinematic. the amount of effort to do this is insane. If i did a video like this by myself, it'd take a lifetime. blizzard has come very far in the past 20 years...even their old cinematics were awesome.. even tho graphics sucked.. they were still awesome.
When your feeling low and don't care about living for another day. Watch this and the Troll will say " live another day" and it what makes you want to.
Nexius Amen, this is what the horde needs to keep moving forward as a faction despite what can be in the eyes of many a questionable Warchief at the moment.
If by best cinematics, you mean the best graphics.. sure. The writing itself is quite sloppy, and doesn't come close to games like FFXIV, which are known for their story.
King Gilga lol, you should pour your frustration on the actual bad writers like the ones from Dragon Ball Super, but not here. You know why? Because forcing plot to still fit player's steady gameplay while having multiple writers at that simply can't equal perfect storytelling. For instance, there HAS to be some form of hatred between alliance and horde because otherwise PvP between said fractions wouldn't make any sense.
It was this cinematic which introduced me to Saurfang as a relatively new player; I pretty much 'met' him at the same time that the troll did. From there I learned more about him and came to look up to him. I'd been playing a tauren up until this point but it was Saurfang's example that won me over to the Horde completely. Now he's become a martyr, and so help me I'll fight Sylvanas and her forces in his name. Lok'tar ogar, old soldier, and rest easy. You taught me what the Horde truly stands for, and we will remember you. :'(
Saurfang has quietly become one of the most in depth characters throughout our time playing this game. From a simple side character in Northrend to being one of the wisest and most amazing orcs in the game. Fantastic story writing.
Saurfang has committed atrocities before Teldrassil, including an extended period hopped up on Demon Blood slaughtering civilians and loving every second of it. He's buried his own child despite seeking honorable death before him. And here he is, wondering if the only honorable thing left to do is die a suicidal charge... And our Zappyboi convinces him to fight for what he has, regardless. The heart of the horde beats. And Sylvanas is NOT that heart.
He's new, and pretty much only features here. He seems to be a symbol of the common Horde soldier, born into the new age. So, I don't think he has a name!
These cinematic cost roughly a million dollars a minute. And it takes roughly 2 years to create 10 minutes of cinematic at this quality for a capable team. You are asking for a 60 million dollar 12 year production. Which of course would cost and take much more time to create something beyond a single scene. And swallow up their cinematic team from creating video game cinematic. Id rather play video games.
60 million is nothing for a movie. They would easily spend twice as much for a 6 year production. PS: I call bullshit that they have worked on this video for 2 years straight. In 2 years we have a dozen videos like this.
I love the music that plays when Saurfang has his moments. I wish I could listen to it over and over again but I can't find any videos or anything of it without the audio
I think his storyline is gonna be the story for horde characters this expansion. How do we keep going and fighting even though our leader burned down a city, killing many, many civilians? If written well, this could be a very good expansion.
Psh, my orc warrior does that all the time. Granted, it's when I'm farming transmogs in older content, but still... ... And I guess I am using Saurfang's arcanite reaper to do it.
So many comments saying things like "Damage Control" as if this cinematic didn't take 10 months at least and this entire emotional roller coaster isn't a master class in story telling. Also, omg, please give us more of these videos. This is absolutely stunning. 11/10
doesn't make it any less damage control. Blizzard has been shafting the Horde for a long time in this regard, and figure they have to throw the horde at least the occasional bone, to get us all excirted before they shaft us again.
It warms my cockles to see Saurfang and Zappyboi actually have a connection. The impact of him going in when Saurfang charges in the Lordaeron cinematic has so much more weight now.
This may well be the best cinematic I've seen yet. It wasn't cool in the sense the cinematics usually are. It didn't depict some epic scene. But it gave depth to a character that deserved it, it gave a voice in the lore to everyone who already feels this way, and most importantly, it made Zappyboi, an actual character.
This was a year ago, just a journey. The Old Soldier has earned his warrior’s death, and freedom from tyrant for the whole of Azeroth. Lok’tar Ogar, Varok Saurfang.
"Live Another Day" "Without armor?" How do you do it... tell a funny joke with out taking the tears away, that's just so good the writers and voice acting really deserver an award for this cinimatic.
Left4Cake Sorry to bust the mood, but I'm pretty sure he says "Without honor?" as a direct foil against his wish for an honorable death, showing his willingness to find other purpose to live and keep fighting.
He was killed by a nothing demon. Blizz can't kill off a warchief like that. He's coming back. Everything Sylvanus is doing is to reach that goal. Vol'jin trusted Sylvanus. You're going to be in for a major disappointment.
Blizzard will probably kill them both and a bunch of other Horde characters. Then some Alliance players will say on the forums that Blizzard favors Horde and that The Alliance never gets a break. *eyeroll*
Agreed. From the deepest place in my Draenei’s heart, we wish for more great men like Saurfang to survive and take leadership of the Horde. Sylvanas is #notmywarchief
Can you imagine the PTSD he is going through hearing those night elves being burned alive after what the orcs did to the draenei back in outland? The screams of the innocent pleading for mercy... It's not unreasonable to see why he so eagerly seeks a warriors death. To forget the pain he has caused.
Craig With a Wig i also have PTSD. but smth different. I once saw Aeonaxx and unfortunately didnt make it to him b4 he was claimed. it haunts me to this day
He already has PTSD from his memories of slaughtering men, women and children in Shattrath while under the influence of Mannoroth's blood, I can't imagine what Teldrassil was like for him.
I don't see how any of the old guard of the orcs didn't get serious flashbacks to the massacres they carried out under the demonic blood haze, not just to the draenei but to the denizens of Azeroth as well, the initial sacking of the southern realms of the eastern kingdoms was quite a one-sided affair for quite some time, which is why there's so much bad blood for the orcs amongst Human and Dwarf-kind. And on top of that surely the Forsaken and Blood Elves (if there had been any there, I'm sure players all have their own opinions) should have been reminded of the massacres of Lordaeron and the dread march of the Scourge into Quel'Thalas, especially the blood elves, being trapped in their own city as it was torn apart (though how it's represented in WoW is quite different to how it was in the Warcraft III Undead Campaign.) I know my Nightborne would be questioning Thalyssra's decision to join the Horde after witnessing a mass murder of civilians, Elven civilians at that, even if they didn't see eye-to-eye. How is the entire Horde leadership not collectively crying out "Oh no this is Theramore all over again! BUT WORSE!!"
The Old Guard is needed more than ever to preserve the Horde. Thrall may have retired, Cairne may have been slain by poisonous treachery and Vol'jin may have fallen and had his mind addled enough before he died to choose Sylvanas; but atleast we still have Saurfang and Eitrig.
I've waited so long to finally see a cinematic with focus on a troll character (where you can actually see their face)!! Honestly I was ecstatic with the amount of screen time Zappyboy had in the BFA cinematic and was not expecting something even better: THIS. Trolls are the main reason I play WoW, and to finally see some representation of them in cinematics is seriously a dream come true. MORE ZAPPYBOY!
hey same here, I am glad they finally gave trolls some attention. I have always had a love for Island and African based Tribal culture who are close to nature and sues simple equipment using wood, bone and stone. I love trolls and I also Main a Troll prot warrior. I love my character.
Finally gave trolls some attention? Cataclysm, Lich King and Mists all had Troll themed patches, and half of the entirety of the next expansion is about Trolls. Uh, guys? Have you played wow?
when he said "live another day" and saurfang put his fist to his chest, he saw his son in that young troll. i've felt the same pain of losing my father, and having someone provide the mentorship in his absence. too bad i was betrayed..
I stand by the Alliance. And yet... Saurfang is the one member of the Horde I respect above all others. He's lived through it all, seen it all, done it all. More than anyone else among his people he understands right from wrong, and truly embodies the honour the rest of the Horde claim to live up to. Also I hope Zappyboi doesn't die... whatever his name truly is. He is only young and quite eager to live up to Saurfang's example, and deserves his chance to do so.
Honestly, I've played Horde for 13 years. I wish that all of the Horde was like Saurfang. We need him as our Warchief, and Sylvanas needs to go. I understand that many people want this "Alliance vs Horde" to really be this brutal.. But the Horde isn't the same anymore. We're not like this.
Right out of left field. Varok Saurfang is one of my favorite characters in Warcraft Lore, and to see him and #Zappyboi get their time in this amazing and well-made cinematic is glorious. GLORY AND HONOR FOR THE HORDE!
THats why u are an alliance player, U know nothing of Horde's Honor. Go deal with your girl king politics and why only humans can be the head of the alliance.
Why do you think they even made this cinematic? It's to gain an emotional bond between the viewers/players and Saurfang for when he does become warchief, eventually.
To be fair, some of the more pensive moments between Durotan and Doomhammer were almost this good. Was just the human scenes that looked college production grade terrible, and the lore changes felt a bit unnecessary.
God, remember the first cinematic? This is how far we've come now. There have been rough patches, but this game is as epic and beautiful as it was in the beginning.
No one did I just saw it when I woke up a couple of hours ago. To be honest they should've saved this a day before launching the Battle of Lordaeron campaign but I guess since everyone was ranting about Warbringer: Sylvanas on both sides there hands were forced to release earlier than expected.
Chuvil exactly what I thought. Everyone was coming down hard on the Sylvanas video, and how there was zero moral ambiguity in the burning of Teldrassil that they needed to provide the moral route for the Horde.
"Give up, boy." "Like you?" I love this, Saurfang is called on his flippant bullshit. He doesn't get to quit on us so easy. The Horde is the only place Horde races will be able to survive. You may hate the direction we are heading, but that means we have to change it. Can't make the Horde better from the outside. Lok'tar ogar!
dude this cinematic had me in tears because saurfang was ready to give up hope in the horde itself and zappy boi was able to rekindle his hope... looks like sylvanas cant kill hope like she thought
While I agree, it feels like this is what Blizzard meant to release later but pushed it up due to horde backlash. It's the perfect counter to the Sylvanis Warbringer.
Hi Mmrrggll! I wonder if this cinematic came before the planned date, coz of the players' reactions on the Saylvanas video... or not... I'm not sure :) What's your opinion?
Can we take a moment to appreciate a troll being featured prominently in a high-quality cinematic for the first time?
they gotta do feckin gnomes in the ally cinematic then and there wass a troll in the bc cinematic >: /
YUP
jieli bai I’m Alliance but I appreciate it
AGREED. I'm a panda boy but still don't think we see nearly enough trolls. I'm sure Zandalar will provide many opportunities for them to shine
Kay Buchheim the troll had like a 3 second shot lol. Nothing compared to this
I'm convinced more than ever that Blizzard should just make a full length animated movie. This 6 minute clip was amazingly cinematic and beautifully directed.
They should have made the Warcraft movie in that style in the first place
Ready player One showed us that it can be done and be well done. (animation wise, didnt care that much for the story, it was a beautiful watch)
As much as I would love that, Blizz said it takes them 4-6 months to create a 6 min cinematic video.
That's exactly what everyone was hoping for when they first announced a warcraft movie. Hoping they don't mistake the failure of a live-action azeroth for a lack of interest in any warcraft movie at all.
A Warcraft TV series would be way better. Movies force you to limit things which is why the film wasn't as enjoyable. TV Series can evolve much like the MMO has.
Gotta say, really wish there were more cinematics like this. A slower pace with story and character. I love the regular cinematics with amazing action but I also love these smaller, more personal story cinematics. PLEASE MORE LIKE THIS!
I wish they made a tv series like this. 12 episodes per season and each episode being around 20 mins long. Showing us the stories we've come to know and love like Arthas or even recreating the Warcraft movie and continuing forward. Even with the animation being at Vanilla's cinematic level it would be amazing and slightly easier. *That is my dream.*
...Personally I would have liked to have seen him single handedly take down an army...
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I like deep stuff too.
some day my friend, some day
"Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young."
What was that? I remember that quote but can't remember where I heard before
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@WolraadWoltemade 1652 Varok Saurfang, the OG WoW memelord himself. He who sunders the earth with a single Cleave.
@WolraadWoltemade 1652 He led the Alliance and Horde against Ahn'Qiraj in Classic, and later led the Horde against the Lich King in Wrath of the Lich King. His son was killed in action and resurrected as Deathbringer Saurfang, a boss in Icecrown Citadel, that should explain Varok's memory in the cinematic. Back in the day there were a lot of Chuck Norris style memes about Varok Saurfang and how badass he is. I don't think he was prominent before WoW, but canonically he also fought in the third war (Warcraft 3), and probably the wars before that.
@@Deolrin I believe ive read hes fought in all four wars now, im not sure but the WOD cinematic goes back only 35 years so thats a inkling towards that.
Characters like Saurfang is why I respect Horde even though I play Alliance. He's been a badass all of his life, and his brother was the only mortal to have ever wounded Sargeras. His son died a death worthy of an orc, only to have his soul stolen and then turned into a death knight. Varok Saurfang, aka Saurfang Sr. Is an orc with regrets in his long life, and wishes to live and die with honor, and seeing how close he was to throwing his life away made me feel sad to see how disillusioned he was with the Horde's direction. I'm glad they put this young troll in there because he represents the new blood, those members of the Horde who have not yet sullied their hands with blood in battle, and who want to find something to rally to, and I think Saurfang realized how important he is to this generation of Hordies, who idolize him as a war hero, and maybe saw that the Horde still has hope of being lead back into a Horde of honor and comdradery
Yup, and I like the parallels with his brother Broxigar who also kept trying to die with honor, but always survived. Brox kept on doing that even after being sent to the past, and his bravery encouraged the defenders of Azeroths figthing the Legion, and then he went on and blocked Sargeras' path, saving Azeroth from its likely destruction at that time had Sargerous traversed the portal.
Broxigar used to be in the exact same situation as Varok, but he went a diverging path by being the eternal hero who saved the world and died with the greatest of honor while his little brother will live on and be a living hero to his people and lead them to greatness.
Nah, Sylv was right to burn the tree. Exterminate the Alliance from Kalimdor. Burn it.
You nailed it right on the head. I've played both Horde and Alliance. There is no true enemy here. Those who are corrupted are the enemy. Horde will sadly always be seen as the bad guys because of certain 'leadership'. But that's why I love the lore for. It has more in depth to it. I've played Aion, and beginning levels you saw the lore. Then as you maxed yourself in the game, the lore is non-existent. And this what saddens me...It has nothing on WoW.
My only problem with Saurfang is that i think he puts honor above survival for the horde, where is honor in allowing the horde to slowly die off.
That's some good insight I hope that's all true
The first troll in a movie quality cinematic is the one and only Zappyboy!
What a lad, he is!
The Burning Crusade cinematic had a troll.
R.I.P He had one job and he failed it...
Shindo Versus He be havina bright mind and future mon.
and not to be punny about it, but he, or male trolls in general I guess, are quite shockingly handsome
"Saurfang, why did you decide to become Warchief?"
"Grr...I was going to have a warrior's death, but then I got trolled by Zappi Boi."
Varok Saurfang, an orc with a horrific past of inflicting and suffering tragedy. His mate, older brother (Broxigar the Red), and son (Dranosh) are all gone, and now in his eyes, the Horde he loves is gone. He’s an old man in a race of people where most die young in battle. I really encourage people to read this guy’s lore.
what book do i have to read for the lore?
the are so many wow books, dont know where to start
a pioneer in his own way
Your comment means even more now with the new short release today.
i'll drink to that
@@jinpachibobochan3532 I don't think he has "his own" book or a major role in any so far. But he has appearances in many as well as in various short stories etc. You can really just Google his name and can dig into a lot of stories and lore around him. It's really worth it!
We all need a friend like that troll.
i am the troll as well
True, he seems like the kind of person to keep the guilds spirits up when they all feel like all hope is lost
@@mrrathalos3576 Yeah you told him to go away but he keeps harassing till you do what he wants you to do.
@@Infernal460 He literally saved Saurfang from suicide.
@@TurtleTime26 He "saved" him from a choice he made by himself.
And it's not suicide, it's a ritual death. For once going to death to with his head held high for himself.
"Honor, young heroes. No matter how dire the battle, never forsake it".
Still putting out hope that one day we'll get a proper, full length WoW movie done like this. Beats live action any day!
"Live Action." 95% of that movie was CG, including most parts of the live actors.
Chris R He said that it is BETTER THAN live action, he didn't say that it IS live action, you moron
I agree. This plus the BfA trailer is about 11 minutes of what an animated WoW movie would be and I want it so bad.
still hoping one of these days we will get a worthy warchief.
Garrosh did nothing wrong. the horde betrayed him, not the other way around.
Seriously though the fact that Saurfang unlike everyone else gets a full on Cinematic makes me think he's the most important character of the expansion, this stuff takes AGES to make.
Take a look son, new warchief is here
I fear that, like the young cop with the beautiful wife and newborn baby, Saurfang might not live long into BFA
well if they kill him off too they wont be another orc character to be a leader
thrall my son
@Naterz dude thrall has just been an edgy teen for past two xpacs
I really liked this cinematic. The animation, everything.
As an alliance player, Saurfang has quickly became one of my favorite horde characters.
He's still a wimp!
The fact that he wasn't already is a problem.
His brother was the first mortal being to injure Sargeras. It was due to this injury, barely a scratch, that the War of the Ancients was won
Wait an expansion or two and suddenly blizzard will break him down as they did Sylvanas
The animation is absolutely amazing.
Here again, after his warrior death. He's finally able to rest with his son and brother. *Farewell Varok Saurfang* the true image of honor.
*LOK'TAR OGAR*
nerd
😭
Get a life
Member Berry Maybe you should find something better to do then try and make other people feel bad. At least he is passionate about something, enough to share his feelings about a beloved character here with us. Perhaps, you should find something better to do. You get a life.
@@prettyinpink9878 As you to make him feel bad. Logic.
My jaw dropped at Saurfang.
Dear Light this is gorgeous!
This is something we needed. Perspective from the horde besides Sylvanas.
I loved the young newblood troll who represents the Horde who are desperate for a symbol that shows honour still means something in this war, he doesn't want Saurfang to throw himself to the side or give up because that would mean he gives up on everything.. not only himself but also the Horde as a whole.
He got sick of it all, His past is filled with regret; namely the draenei slaughter and likely fighting under Garrosh, he thought it was finally over and here he is once more; another event where dozens of innocents are slaugthered and he is partially responsible.
But most importantly he is denied his honourable death. He saw no more value in it; he gave up and you get where he is coming from: His son Dranosh died in a 1v1 against the Lich King and his brother Broxigar died fighting Sargeras for crying out loud.
But then this young troll shows Saurfang there is still something worth to fight for even if it isn't for his own death anymore but for the future of the Horde and he may perhaps find what he yearns for while trying to do just that.
He is becoming a warrior that fights for something he believes rather then a warrior that fight for his own death.
Not to mention the Dranosh feels.
shades of his brother coming out.
Floris Kunst Beautiful comment. A freaking plus. For the Horde!
Shame he dies in the battle
Jeremy he doesnt lol
Floris Kunst best comment. Hands down.
A gorgeous CGI short with no action, no heroics and no spectacle - just a conversation and interaction between two characters. By far the best Blizzard has given us.
Wrath of the Lich King Intro Cinematic. (a little more heroic/spectacular but still)
Action, heroics and spectacle is exactly what WoW is all about. The cinémati is nice and it's a good change of pace for once, but its in no way the best they've given... try Wotlk trailer instead, or any extension trailer except MoP
Quit whining and recognize what good is done with the cinematic.
Wrath cinmatic was just like this, and its been the best till now. I still prefer Lich Kings one.
Have you even seen the overwatch cinematics bro? this aint got nothing on Dragons.
Saurfang here is what 70% of the horde players felt like after seeing Sylvana's warbringer cinematic.
Hapsu I feel ya. I’m Alliance til I die but man, I cannot imagine how pissed Horde players must be. You guys deserve better. Wayyyyy better. I hope you get Saurfang next expac.
I serve my queen to death! For Sylvanas! death to Alliance! Bwonsamdi is with us, Azeroth is ouers!
probably after death to...
all races except the undead have something in common... the undead have a chip on their shoulder that will never go away, tho, in the Novel, some of the undead did show a different side, maybe there is hope, but I don't think so
@@edwardness7497 they got killed for that different side, which raises the question, how many other forsaken dissappear in the night
So that's why zappy boi and Saurfang only had one pauldron on!
Zappy Boiiiiiiiii!
Let zappy boi rise to be DarkSpear leader throughout the expansion
Zappy boi official character confirmed
He's Vol'jin's son, you'll see.
Morgaith He already said his father is Hekazi
Hiding my shoulders in support of Saurfang
#NoHonorNoPauldron
#ShouldersOffForSaurfang
i hid my pauldrons anyways. always looked odd Swinging a greatsword and casually putting my head on a shoulder spike
Good idea.
Can you explain to me what that means? The no honor no pauldrons thing. Cause I see he only has one on in the BfA cinematic.
+FALL3N Saurfang just took them off to make sure the Alliance would be able to kill him.
Pretty cool that Saurfang got to cameo in the Zappi Boi cinematic!
Brandon Lusk lolyes!
Zappi Boi for the Warchief! (Or at least make him an important character. >_>)
It's nice to throw the old man a bone after all he's been through.
Hej co tam
Faj y film3
I'm just amazed there's an actual troll character in a cinematic. Close up and personal. That has never happened before.
and that he is so young he looks very pretty for a troll xD i love it!!
Now let's hope the Tauren are next in line for this treatment :(
@@illuarts i agree he looks handsome
Johan Andersson
There was a Tauren in the BFA teaser cinematic
Unless you mean in game, in which case, yeah, let’s hope
We need the goblins and undead and. Lood elves
I can't believe Zappy boi got his own cinematic.
My thoughts exactly!
With Saurfang, too.
I deeply worry that he may end up with the same fate as Zuni... A young troll shaman that died on his first war, defending his home from the naga.
Oh my god all of these bring me to tears. Good job Blizzard.
Osama Bin Ganking likewise !
And that's how the raid leader convinces you for another try after so many wipes.
thats how the new raider convinces the Raid leader to try one more time after too many wipes
right on
Noone haha you made me giggle :D
not if one are in my old guild :D
No, no, no, that's how YOU convince the raid leader to lead the questionable raid group once more.
"You have earned your warrior's death...my son. Yet once again, I am denied it."
Your time finally came old timer, and you did not disappoint. For Azeroth!
i got bit teary eyed when saurfang died man.... he was one of my fav charachters.
kek
Cool spoilers bro.
AlaskanWolf16 it’s been like a year dude
@@AlaskanWolf16 been a year homey
As someone who has played alliance since vanilla, i'm gonna be pissed if Saurfang dies.
Osterberg501 this
He won't, don't worry he's the next warchief.
He's going to prison to discuss honor with Anduin. Either Saurfang or Thrall will kill Sylvanas. I think she'll off Thrall, and Saurfang gets revenge. Calling it now! (Alliance player as well).
I certainly hope so
IF he dies with OUT honor.
I just realized that is the shaman in the main cinematic. When saurfang gets back up and carries the flag forward the troll sees him and continues to fight! He needed saurfangs morale since it was his first battle! Well done blizz!
And if u notice both saurfang and the troll only have one shoulder on in the main cinematic.
brainlet detected
Kellen not only that but the moment Genn knocked out Saurfang in the cinematic, Genn gets zapped by the zappyboi right after. I smell some good bromance with zappy boi and saurfang. LoL
+Letgoit2, more like a surrogate father-son type deal... Though I guess that is a kind of bromance.
Letgoit2 it works well. Of all the legendary warriors Varok has fought with, it took a young, scared troll to remind him of the true spirit of the horde!!
"Honor, no matter how dire the battle, never forsake it."
FORSAKE IT haha
This is my favourite blizz cinematic even today. “The Horde is all we have.”
When will Blizzard finally give us a true Warcraft movie of this caliber? An entire CGI movie (including humans) is what we need.
it would be so expensive to make is the problem. I remember watching the behind the scenes of the legion cinematic trailer and i forgot what they exactly said but they said everything to a huge amount of time to make and i think thats why the warcraft movie wasnt full cgi
Joe, think how long the fans have been waiting for when it comes to the Warcraft movie. We're the fans who are willing to wait, despite so many being loud about speeding things up, the majority is willing to wait. As for the price to make it, well, they could sell some transmog items in the Blizz shop, people would buy them; as long as they're just appearance and nothing else, I'd say do it.
Joe Savero Laziness. They very well could have done a cgi movie with the amount blizzard has made since 2004
Expensive? At the height of WoW's popularity (12 million subscribers), at 15 bucks a month they were raking in 180 million EVERY MONTH. That's not far off from the budget of most high profile CGI-heavy feature films. One assumes Activision-Blizzard could easily foot the bill for a full movie of this caliber.
It's a huge risk involved when producing your own movie though. And they also have investors to answer to. It's not like they can on a whim say let's use all our resources on a CGI-based WoW movie.
Zappyboi just single handedly saved the Horde.
Ramson Cole saurfang will be in stockades soon prisoner
redbull_gives_wings who needs saurfang when we got da sappyboi mon'
*Alliance.
He saved them from the Saurfang Cleave
Ramson Cole too bad I believe anduin kills him in the original trailer for BFA
It isn't the same troll, who dies in cinematic - they have different hair color.
"Blizzard! We can never forgive you for Sylvanas' Warbringers short!"
Blizz: Here's a cinematic starring Saurfang and Zapi Boi.
"All is forgiven."
What was wrong with it? I havent seen it, been out of touch with wow for a while.
The truth
I mean in all fairness, Saurfang is probably one of the only NPCs everyone (or nearly) likes--regardless of faction XD
I'm strictly an Alliance player, but I have mad respect for Saurfang. He's the one person I will Lok'tar Ogar to.
Just another chapter in warchief revolving door policy. Developers 'make them hate sylvannas and revere saurfang'... No shades of grey at all.
Moff Ant Nothing. People just overreact to trees catching on fire.
Year later and I'm just realizing when Saurfang said "Too many." He was talking about all the night elfs that died in the flames, not the enemy across from them.
Really?? I thought he is talking about the enemy across them
Lol
It's both, I think.
Could be both, but the fact that the troll said, "How many?" as opposed to "How many are there?" should be a giveaway and an opening to the interpretation.
He was talking about the enemies on the field and also how many were going to die on both sides. Zaps question was vague on purpose
Omg this came out of no-where! So good
hirumaredx hIRUUUUUU
hiruuu!!! my boy
HURRY UP AND MAKE A VIDEO TALKING ABOUT THIS!
But its still pretty cool to see more of saurfang.
Good content from blizzard comes when you least expect it
*this short film is better than some movies ...*
Maybe because it is way more easy to make 6 minutes instead 2 hours?
Grimy Gamer specially combined with the follow up of this
Spazik86 not really
Better than the Warcraft movie.
why dont blizzard make full movies like this. and bash LOTR. you know theres millions wow follower is about time. make into movies, and book so our children can really enjoy.
I love the fact that Blizzard had a second part of the cinematic hidden inside their pocket all this time. Who came up with this brilliant idea deserves some credit.
They've been doing this since overwatch tbf.
the people who were bitching about the previous one almost sound like prophets, this cinematic delivered basically everything they would have wanted to hear out of Saurfang, at least in a way that makes sense for his character
Theo Lumina simpsons did it
It was me, actually.
This cinematic is blizzard's way of telling us,the veterans,to be kind to new players!
Lol really funny but I like it
Mannnn...I miss playing this game
As u can tell I'm an old old (not in real life, I'm 15) admirer and veteran to this game, haven't played it since I think half a decade ago or so?
"Never go easy on noobs unless they're your friends", - Me,2019.
There is no new players.
Thia game is a distant memory for me now i played vanilla and bc Then private servers for lich king. Its been so long since ive played but fond memories for sure
@@tywinalexandercesaredanaed1819 Funny, I have played WoW 14 years ago... nearly before you even born :D And you would probably call me noob today. cause... i dont have enough time to grind
Please for the love of all that's holy... Make movies like this please. Who cares about the live action, let's see the telling of the WoW universe like this.
T B And it costs alot of money
Gazmitron 5000 NO! Games are much better than films when comes to storytelling and immersion
strandalx Most games haven't had as much lore fleshed out of them like Warcraft has. Warcraft has so many books and professional writers that it wouldn't be hard for a Director to take all the pieces and put them together. The one thing Blizzard needs to do is get a really good Director like Steven Spielberg, some one like him with creative counter of the movie and unlimited time would make an amazing movie.
I agree this is better by far
It would never be a bit late, if they did produce a movie like this .... it would be always just in time lol
With this single video, they did Saurfang so much justice after what happened in Darkshore
Can they just make a 7 hour movie like this? xD
Rhyno 33 with complet new Story of Azeroth :3
Doesn't need a new story. The one it has can fill 6 movies even with all the fringe elements cut from it and still be awesome. There are a lot of players these days that don't know the story of WC1, WC2, WC3, and the first 3 versions of WoW (Vanilla, BC, WotLK). After all there, there's still Cata, MoP, Draenor, and Legion. You could make a cinematice franchise to rival Star Wars in it's length and complexity.
Chris R It was mean like the story from cataclysm to legion 😂 Excuse me, but I write it in bad way...
@chris r what rhyno was saying, is in this style. live action is not needed.
Dude that will cost blizz around 1 billion dollars :)
Honor, young heroes... no matter how dire the battle... Never forsake it!
*High Overlord Saurfang, 2009*
I cry every time.
*High Lord Saurfang* abandoning his people to sit in an alliance cell. Only leaving his cell when implored to, by an alliance leader.
No the horde deserves better than Saurfang, better than the Basnshe queen.
@@Infernal460 Had he gone with the horde champions and brought to Zandalar, he would've ended up in Sylvanas' hands. I don't think Nathanos would've let him leave the group so easily. Now, we don't know exactly what he has planned to do exactly, but he might be in a better place to work against Sylvanas then if he hadn't done what he did.
Saurfang is so cool he gets a full on cinematic instead of a Warbringers.
He aint a Warbringer though.
He has 'saur' in his name, its not like i wasnt expecting it (I had to).
thewalrus45 knowing 8.0's full story...makes this even more depressing to be honest
Agreed, its cause he isn't a Warbringer like sylvanas and jaina, there is a reason azshara is in the group as well its because they are bad people. lets not forget that jaina MURDERED every blood elf in dalaran even killing the dragonhawks so as to not allow them to escape.
Not "every blood elf". Jaina is reacting to events brought upon her, she never dealt the first strike. Sylvanas has always done what is best for her and only her. Jaina has always tried to seek peace but peace is a lie it will never exist.
I would like to point out that Saurfang is so badass that he removes his armor to make sure the enemy ARMY will be able to kill him.
They stood no chance against the rage filled cleave king that is Saurfang. Zappy boi just saved their asses
sorry to burst your bubble. but i think he is going for a duel. a honorable/ suicidal duel. hence removing his armor and only wielding and axe. an orc tradition i think was no armor nor weapon. a Mak'gora but in the cinamatic when thrall and garrosh faught they used weapon, and thrall cheated and used the aid of the spirits and nature. in the Move Warcraft it was plain fist fight but Gul'dan cheated with use of fel magic. I aint much of an lore fan nor a faction fan (though i play alliance more then horde but got 5 endgame hordes) so thats only a opinion of mine. on the other hand. its true that the Forsake where only in the Horde for their own game. But i think a true Horde fan like the Horde as it was. that thrall wanted it to be and maintane. saurfang is one last i think ( just and opinion of mine ) that has such honor and wants that way back. not mass slaughter that holds no honor and potential genocide. thats why the Q that he gave in darkshore to get prisoners, innocent once that didnt take up arms to question them and release them afterward. cus thats honorable and thats the Horde that i like. not this that has been going on in legion and and in pandaria.
gallakall In a Mak'gora you can have one weapon of your choosing. Some state that the Challenger may choose both weapons even. But I think that your statement seems probable, considering he dropped his armor.. But who was to challenge, if Saurfang was looking for certain death?
Mekkatorque gundam :D
He wanted a Mak'gora with the whole alliance army which would lead to his certain death. An honirable death at that. So that's what he wants, an honirable death to reclaim what's his - his honor
The animation is just incredible.
Gave me chills, Gizmo!
2:50 He did not die as “Deathbringer” Saurfang. He died as Dranosh Saurfang, warrior of the horde.
R.I.P
what is soundtrack here?
I've never played WoW but I never miss a great Blizzard Cinematic 👍🏻
i know right I have seen heaps or starcraft ones, theyre great too yet i havent played starcraft since the original on a playstation in the late 90's lol
Hoss Cartwright same here...I played Warcraft 3 though... They should really release Warcraft 4,5,6,7,8,9...
Me too man
Hoss Cartwright me too
... Why don't you?
Without a doubt, the greatest thing Blizzard has produced - are these cinematics.
The first one got me into the Game in the Beginning, and each one always makes my heart beat with longing even though I no longer play.❣️
Kelly Parish they create the whole warcraft universe in first place...
Come back, the Horde needs you.
Dont buy what this troll is saying, he is actualy sent by N'Zoth to keep the war going
Man... I think I saw the first cinematic hundreds of time waiting for wow to launch
Renovatio2142 Warhammer would like a word.
I wish they could make a movie like this. It's moving, it's well done, and makes far more sense than any live action version. You can't rush the story, or the depth of the characters involved in the history of Azeroth. No live action movie is going to really get it right. I'm in love with this cinematic.
FireStar32005 i wish it too, but it costs 10 times more then a regular movie, and takes 10 times longer to make it. So i think that cinematics are all we gonna get in this frame for now.
Agreed
A single season TV show with 35min episodes would be great. Not rushed and plenty of time to (hopefully) get it rig hr
FireStar32005 1000 x this. EXACTLY.
from my experience, most people who saw the Warcraft movie had never played the content it was based off of. Hint, it wasnt WoW.
Randomly going back and still love these
There is no perfect cinemat...
*blizzard releases cinematic with saurfang and zappy boi
- so, miracles do exist
Darth TH-camr you are not wrong my friend
Gees Blizzard, just make an animated warcraft movie. Not all things need to be live action. This short video is by far better than anything that's come out of hollywood.
this probably took them 2-3 years to make this cinematic.. wow the game took 12 years to make.
With the kind of quality they put out in these short cinematics i imagine it'd be incredibly expensive doing a whole movie. I second your opinion, but I'm sure it's not easy
well as a 3d artist for the past 20 years.. and ive designed video games .. it probably took 20-50 skilled artists to work on this for at least 1-3 years... then you have the voice over artists, and the photoshop texture artists.. the video editting, the storyline.. you have an entire team created just to create this short cinematic. the amount of effort to do this is insane. If i did a video like this by myself, it'd take a lifetime. blizzard has come very far in the past 20 years...even their old cinematics were awesome.. even tho graphics sucked.. they were still awesome.
Ok, but you can still do an animated movie about warcraft. Maybe not to this level of detail but with a dedicated studio, i'm sure it's possible.
i think so
At least someone in the Horde still knows what honor means. #SaurfangforWarchief
to bad the alliance never knew it.
Stoll Varian knew the true meaning of honor.
Tho, the real name too.
And the name, is Varok Saurfang.
Nah mang, #LorthemarTheronforWarchief
dont you mean zappie boi?! lol retty sure saurfang was going to die without honor in that cinematic but zappy boi stopped him.
That hashtag needs to catch on.
#SaurfangforWarchief
When your feeling low and don't care about living for another day. Watch this and the Troll will say " live another day" and it what makes you want to.
Now THIS is the horde I remember when I started playing Warcraft 3!!
Nexius the orc and troll you mean
Nexius Amen, this is what the horde needs to keep moving forward as a faction despite what can be in the eyes of many a questionable Warchief at the moment.
You took the words right out of my mouth man.
Is this guy the chieftain? Wasn't voljin the chieftain?
Vol'jin's dead.
Haters can hate - Blizzard still does the best cinematics in gaming.
cant deny that
Best cinematics, worst writers.
If by best cinematics, you mean the best graphics.. sure. The writing itself is quite sloppy, and doesn't come close to games like FFXIV, which are known for their story.
Hard to argue that. Writing has been awful for quite a while now. But the graphics, top notch.
King Gilga lol, you should pour your frustration on the actual bad writers like the ones from Dragon Ball Super, but not here. You know why? Because forcing plot to still fit player's steady gameplay while having multiple writers at that simply can't equal perfect storytelling. For instance, there HAS to be some form of hatred between alliance and horde because otherwise PvP between said fractions wouldn't make any sense.
It was this cinematic which introduced me to Saurfang as a relatively new player; I pretty much 'met' him at the same time that the troll did. From there I learned more about him and came to look up to him. I'd been playing a tauren up until this point but it was Saurfang's example that won me over to the Horde completely. Now he's become a martyr, and so help me I'll fight Sylvanas and her forces in his name. Lok'tar ogar, old soldier, and rest easy. You taught me what the Horde truly stands for, and we will remember you. :'(
Saurfang has quietly become one of the most in depth characters throughout our time playing this game. From a simple side character in Northrend to being one of the wisest and most amazing orcs in the game. Fantastic story writing.
I mean he's been fairly important since Vanilla, he led the Horde forces in Ahn'Qiraj.
he was never a simple side character in northrend tho. He was a NPC in org that was infamous for his mind controlled cleave.
Saurfang was the reason you didn't go through the front gate of Org to kill Thrall. Guy would wipe raids in the day.
Someone clearly doesnt know Saurfang lol
And don‘t forget the heartbreaking Death of his son in the Icecrown Citadell.
OG WoW character bullies freshly boosted shaman.
Haha spot on! But then finds friendship in the pure innocence and eagerness of the noob.
Thats literally me when a new guy joins the raid group and ask for the tactics. "Don't Die"
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You have no idea of Saurfang's depth of character and suffering.
Only Alliance self-righteous sanctimony, and condescending raciism.
Go back to your daddy noob
Well hello, Morally Grey. You're late to the party, but it's good to see you.
*Sobbing tears of joy*
who's Morally Grey
Not Sylvanas that's for sure.
nothing morally grey about any of this.
How is this morally gray? Saurfang staying with the Horde isn't morally gray.
Saurfang has committed atrocities before Teldrassil, including an extended period hopped up on Demon Blood slaughtering civilians and loving every second of it. He's buried his own child despite seeking honorable death before him. And here he is, wondering if the only honorable thing left to do is die a suicidal charge... And our Zappyboi convinces him to fight for what he has, regardless.
The heart of the horde beats. And Sylvanas is NOT that heart.
loktar ogar my brothers, wow may be dying but the horde will be forever
This as made me feel more for WoW than I have in years.
Agreed, wish we had more shorts like this and the Sylvanas story ingame
Who is this troll in the vid
zappy boi
He's new, and pretty much only features here. He seems to be a symbol of the common Horde soldier, born into the new age. So, I don't think he has a name!
RidiculousQ oh! Is he important to the story?
Now i finally understand why the camera sticked way too long on that seemingly random Troll Shaman in the first trailer. Genius move, Blizz!
Didja notice that Zappieboy is also missing the same shoulderplate as Saurfang? :D
What I wanted from the Warcraft movie was an hour long cinematic, that’s all.
These cinematic cost roughly a million dollars a minute. And it takes roughly 2 years to create 10 minutes of cinematic at this quality for a capable team.
You are asking for a 60 million dollar 12 year production. Which of course would cost and take much more time to create something beyond a single scene. And swallow up their cinematic team from creating video game cinematic.
Id rather play video games.
You’re saying this as though high-quality animated movies don’t exist. Oh, that’s right, I forgot Blizzard is just an indie studio with no resources 🙄
60 million is nothing for a movie. They would easily spend twice as much for a 6 year production.
PS: I call bullshit that they have worked on this video for 2 years straight. In 2 years we have a dozen videos like this.
Aaron Eckart's Ego I’d say 6 months
Aaron Eckart's Ego at most
I love the music that plays when Saurfang has his moments. I wish I could listen to it over and over again but I can't find any videos or anything of it without the audio
Jacob Huotari it’s some sort of rendition of Wotlk music. The closest I remember is the soundtrack in the grizzly hills
send somebody the music if you know it, please.
@@pavelchunaev7623 dont yet, really want to find it
same, i have been searching for this piece from so long.
me to :' (
I play alliance. That being said, Saurfang is the warchief you deserve.
Warlock is better anyways :)
how does that connect to anything? lol
blackhoofs because even we Alliance respect Saurfang.
Im horde. That being said *emits a warcry*
@blackhoofs No you dont.
Wow that was amazingly done. I really like Saurfang's storyline in Battle for Azeroth.
DORONS DO A VIDEO ON THIS PLEASE!!! i dont even care if its something we already know.
Doronsmovies I literally cried when he's with his son in the snow. Loved that part.
I would've loved if he had the WotLK armor set he had back then... But still, amazing!
I think his storyline is gonna be the story for horde characters this expansion. How do we keep going and fighting even though our leader burned down a city, killing many, many civilians? If written well, this could be a very good expansion.
Saurfang for Warchief!
Saurfang then had to rush back and hastily put his armour back on to be in time for the reveal cinematic.
Well it does explain why he only has 1 pauldron and the metal jaw thing is askew. x3
Some orc took them
I think someone threw his helm and one shoulder from the tower to him.
True he only had 1 shoulder pad hahaha
wen c inamtic is then the cannons are very close now there was still distance
Zekhan: "What are you doing?"
Saurfang: "Unsubbing and uninstalling."
We ACTUALLY got a cinematic where a troll actually speaks? YAY! Also...Saurfang for Warchief!
Yess!!! Surfing for Warcheif, 100%! haha
Saurfang shall bring honor and glory to the horde
Vol'jin speaks in a couple different cinematics, what are you talking about? lol
The great Zappyboi makes his glorious film debut.
Should have been after Thrall goddamn it.
"he said you could fell 10 enemies with a single swing" cleave meme is canon boys.
I was thinking. 'Ten? Are you sure you didn't mean ten thousand?'
Psh, my orc warrior does that all the time. Granted, it's when I'm farming transmogs in older content, but still...
... And I guess I am using Saurfang's arcanite reaper to do it.
Can confirm, used to use gnomish mind control cap on him in vanilla. Whoever was pvp flagged in org had a bad day.
So many comments saying things like "Damage Control" as if this cinematic didn't take 10 months at least and this entire emotional roller coaster isn't a master class in story telling.
Also, omg, please give us more of these videos. This is absolutely stunning. 11/10
blizzard drone lol
how's the air with all that brown nosing
doesn't make it any less damage control. Blizzard has been shafting the Horde for a long time in this regard, and figure they have to throw the horde at least the occasional bone, to get us all excirted before they shaft us again.
All I hear is crying from Horde players.
"Shafting horde for a long time" - yet only do things for the Horde, ever.
I'd say Saurfang is an apt representation of how Blizzard fans found out about the details of the recent lawsuit.
It warms my cockles to see Saurfang and Zappyboi actually have a connection. The impact of him going in when Saurfang charges in the Lordaeron cinematic has so much more weight now.
TheWu it also explains why his armor is askew and partially missing (that was my first thought: "why is his faceplate hanging like that?!")
Zarasha yup, he barely had enough time to get his armor back on, and the neck piece wasn’t fastened.
It's almost like Blizzard planned this all along!
TheWu ohhh boy. The zappy boi and saurfang should be co-warchiefs.
Fmannen93 you’re right. This was a puzzle piece to the overall picture, but it doesn’t change the bad writing of Sylvanas’ “burn it!” fiasco.
OUT OF NO WHERE! EPIC
This may well be the best cinematic I've seen yet. It wasn't cool in the sense the cinematics usually are. It didn't depict some epic scene. But it gave depth to a character that deserved it, it gave a voice in the lore to everyone who already feels this way, and most importantly, it made Zappyboi, an actual character.
This was a year ago, just a journey.
The Old Soldier has earned his warrior’s death, and freedom from tyrant for the whole of Azeroth.
Lok’tar Ogar, Varok Saurfang.
"Live Another Day"
"Without armor?"
How do you do it... tell a funny joke with out taking the tears away, that's just so good the writers and voice acting really deserver an award for this cinimatic.
Left4Cake
Sorry to bust the mood, but I'm pretty sure he says "Without honor?" as a direct foil against his wish for an honorable death, showing his willingness to find other purpose to live and keep fighting.
no he says without armor that is why the troll scoops his up before running with a chuckle /facepalm
@@chrisluzeski8044
The real funny thing is ...
The troll *trolled* Saurfang lol.
Kaisburg, turn on the subtitle. It's "without armor".
+magreggins "not everything is about ideal, go get a life in the ever changing world"
Saurfang: "There's no Honor in this!"
Me as a Goblin: "There's no Profit in this!"
I get the BEST DEALS ANYWHERE
Remember goblin dks asking arthas for salary ?
I'm googling to find this, how do we make this happen?
Me as a Panderan: “There’s no fresh brewed Ale in this!”
Seems like a mild contradiction. ;-)
There is no honor in this war....Only Pain.
I miss Voljin...
Suika Ibuki gonna get voljin back in BFA
Vol'jin is dead, son. The end.
Jarred Farrell I'm guessing you don't know of vol Jins story in BFA then XD
He was killed by a nothing demon. Blizz can't kill off a warchief like that. He's coming back. Everything Sylvanus is doing is to reach that goal. Vol'jin trusted Sylvanus. You're going to be in for a major disappointment.
DARK SPEAR ......Voljin I miss him so much too
The troll is the cutest and loveliest thing ive seen today. Im downloading the game again. ♡
As an Alliance dog (literally. Worgen) I say...
...
Horde... please take care of Saurfang and Zappy Boi. You need more Bros.
Well, next week will be the ones taking care of Saurfang.
Spoilers:
He gets jailed. xD
Blizzard will probably kill them both and a bunch of other Horde characters. Then some Alliance players will say on the forums that Blizzard favors Horde and that The Alliance never gets a break. *eyeroll*
Zappy boi can rot, along with all the other Dark Spear traitors.
*ZANDALAR FOREVER*
chances are zappy boi was the one Anduin slammed into the ground during the main battle
Agreed. From the deepest place in my Draenei’s heart, we wish for more great men like Saurfang to survive and take leadership of the Horde. Sylvanas is #notmywarchief
Can you imagine the PTSD he is going through hearing those night elves being burned alive after what the orcs did to the draenei back in outland? The screams of the innocent pleading for mercy... It's not unreasonable to see why he so eagerly seeks a warriors death. To forget the pain he has caused.
What i am sure makes it even worse for him is the fact that he can't blame it on demon's blood this time
Craig With a Wig i also have PTSD. but smth different. I once saw Aeonaxx and unfortunately didnt make it to him b4 he was claimed. it haunts me to this day
How about seeing the Alliance and Horse soldiers being risen again and how that reminds him of his son at the wrath gate.
He already has PTSD from his memories of slaughtering men, women and children in Shattrath while under the influence of Mannoroth's blood, I can't imagine what Teldrassil was like for him.
I don't see how any of the old guard of the orcs didn't get serious flashbacks to the massacres they carried out under the demonic blood haze, not just to the draenei but to the denizens of Azeroth as well, the initial sacking of the southern realms of the eastern kingdoms was quite a one-sided affair for quite some time, which is why there's so much bad blood for the orcs amongst Human and Dwarf-kind.
And on top of that surely the Forsaken and Blood Elves (if there had been any there, I'm sure players all have their own opinions) should have been reminded of the massacres of Lordaeron and the dread march of the Scourge into Quel'Thalas, especially the blood elves, being trapped in their own city as it was torn apart (though how it's represented in WoW is quite different to how it was in the Warcraft III Undead Campaign.) I know my Nightborne would be questioning Thalyssra's decision to join the Horde after witnessing a mass murder of civilians, Elven civilians at that, even if they didn't see eye-to-eye. How is the entire Horde leadership not collectively crying out "Oh no this is Theramore all over again! BUT WORSE!!"
Lok'tar Ogar! For the true Horde, honor and courage.
Andrew Cortez SAURFANG FOR WARCHIEF
The Old Guard is needed more than ever to preserve the Horde.
Thrall may have retired, Cairne may have been slain by poisonous treachery and Vol'jin may have fallen and had his mind addled enough before he died to choose Sylvanas; but atleast we still have Saurfang and Eitrig.
honor and blood
Honor and Blood!
This is why WOMEN can NOT be a Warchief
Can watch this over and over again. Better than an entire movie ....
Goosebumps....all over
Lovely cinematic...
For the Horde!!!!!
WE WILL COME FOR YOU.
Lok'Tar ogar!
Batman Looking forward brother 😁👍
Max Ehrenström Lok'tar Ogar!!
They're really killing it with Saurfang's story in Battle for Azeroth. Man!
I think this expac will surprise a lot of people.
he is easily my favorite character. im so happy they made this cinematic. Hes the only one now it seems to have the spirit of the horde in him now.
he's the only reason i can stick with the horde this expac.... cant take another expac being led by another garrosh with no redemption
MMOByte I admire the troll in this cinematic and one thing for certain... Da heart LIES WITHIN THE HORDE! FOR THE HORDE!!!
if by killing it...you mean killing his character....sure
I've waited so long to finally see a cinematic with focus on a troll character (where you can actually see their face)!! Honestly I was ecstatic with the amount of screen time Zappyboy had in the BFA cinematic and was not expecting something even better: THIS.
Trolls are the main reason I play WoW, and to finally see some representation of them in cinematics is seriously a dream come true.
MORE ZAPPYBOY!
hey same here, I am glad they finally gave trolls some attention. I have always had a love for Island and African based Tribal culture who are close to nature and sues simple equipment using wood, bone and stone. I love trolls and I also Main a Troll prot warrior. I love my character.
Yes exactly!!!!! I was so surprised when he came on screen !!
Finally gave trolls some attention? Cataclysm, Lich King and Mists all had Troll themed patches, and half of the entirety of the next expansion is about Trolls. Uh, guys? Have you played wow?
Its not really surprising since Trolls are the central focus on the horde side of the expansion.
But I wanted this troll to be more fierce. They are bloodthirsty and strong race. This young one seems to be a little lost.
when he said "live another day" and saurfang put his fist to his chest, he saw his son in that young troll. i've felt the same pain of losing my father, and having someone provide the mentorship in his absence. too bad i was betrayed..
austin cummings May you find friends that treat you better... Aka Magosh
Does that Troll have a name?
You find those you can trust, it will take time but in time, you will find those you can trust...
I stand by the Alliance.
And yet... Saurfang is the one member of the Horde I respect above all others. He's lived through it all, seen it all, done it all. More than anyone else among his people he understands right from wrong, and truly embodies the honour the rest of the Horde claim to live up to.
Also I hope Zappyboi doesn't die... whatever his name truly is. He is only young and quite eager to live up to Saurfang's example, and deserves his chance to do so.
Honestly, I've played Horde for 13 years. I wish that all of the Horde was like Saurfang. We need him as our Warchief, and Sylvanas needs to go. I understand that many people want this "Alliance vs Horde" to really be this brutal.. But the Horde isn't the same anymore. We're not like this.
I think you see zappy boi being crushed by the boi king in the reveal cinematic..
Jeff Engert Plottwist: Zappyboy is Vuljin sent from a different timeline by Chromie
Cowman
No, that troll has (morally) grey hair, and zappy boi has red.
Zappyboi is jam now
This short ciematic film, I wish there was a whole movie like this 😭😭😭😭
Chloe Young there was dude
no, he means a good cinematic film, like this one.
TFW the shorts are better than the official movie.
Ohhhhh Shots Fired! XD
That was just a spinoff
Right out of left field.
Varok Saurfang is one of my favorite characters in Warcraft Lore, and to see him and #Zappyboi get their time in this amazing and well-made cinematic is glorious.
GLORY AND HONOR FOR THE HORDE!
What is this Zappyboi thing I was seeing it all over the place.
too bad this cinematic is spoiled by the warbringers video
i love the voice actor for this troll
I'm an Alliance player, I just wanna say THIS IS THE WARCHIEF THE HORDE DESERVES!
BluePotato no one cares about your alliance opinion
Agreed. This is what the Horde should be.
THats why u are an alliance player, U know nothing of Horde's Honor. Go deal with your girl king politics and why only humans can be the head of the alliance.
You guys know his lore? All his crimes against Innocents?
Good thing u left we dont need u back.
In all honesty, Saurafang is the Warchief Horde deserves after the past upheavals. He knows what true honor is.
Seenyurr But he's not the one it needs right now. O.O
I miss Garrosh
Logan Stein; I will take anyone over Sylvanas. That includes the Zappy Boi lmao
Feels like a setup for Thrall to return IMO.
Why do you think they even made this cinematic? It's to gain an emotional bond between the viewers/players and Saurfang for when he does become warchief, eventually.
Wish the movie was like this.
Namelss Vermillion absolutely I would love to see a movie done this way
Would take 5+ yers to make...
ElGallo and I would still be watching it 5 years later I mean who doesn't Still pop in Lord of the Rings every once in awhile
They better get started then.
To be fair, some of the more pensive moments between Durotan and Doomhammer were almost this good. Was just the human scenes that looked college production grade terrible, and the lore changes felt a bit unnecessary.
God, remember the first cinematic? This is how far we've come now. There have been rough patches, but this game is as epic and beautiful as it was in the beginning.
Lo'ko zilnok At'ar.
Saurfang. The leader we need, but not the leader we deserve.
Correction: Saurfang, the leader we deserve
Sylvanas, the leader we need
The path to paradise is paved in blood and ash
Orc up, my friend! We make the leaders we deserve!
No he's the leader we both need and deserve
I wanna hear more from these "Spirits" that whispered the name SYLVANAS
Why do we need Sylvannas when all she is doing is forcing us into war for no reason?
Holy Light, I didn't expect this upload
Xal no one did 😮
No one did I just saw it when I woke up a couple of hours ago. To be honest they should've saved this a day before launching the Battle of Lordaeron campaign but I guess since everyone was ranting about Warbringer: Sylvanas on both sides there hands were forced to release earlier than expected.
Damage control
My thoughts exactly.
Chuvil exactly what I thought. Everyone was coming down hard on the Sylvanas video, and how there was zero moral ambiguity in the burning of Teldrassil that they needed to provide the moral route for the Horde.
"Give up, boy."
"Like you?"
I love this, Saurfang is called on his flippant bullshit. He doesn't get to quit on us so easy. The Horde is the only place Horde races will be able to survive. You may hate the direction we are heading, but that means we have to change it. Can't make the Horde better from the outside.
Lok'tar ogar!
Zappyboy had some nads on him. No wonder Trolls walk like they do.
Fizzle Internal leadership struggle makes the Horde more interesting than the Alliance anyway
U r wise af
FOR THE HORDE!!!!
The burning nelves was so sad. Saurfang was absolutely right in saying there was no honor in the burning of Teldrassil.
This had amazing animation and impactful emotion. Well done Blizzard.
dude this cinematic had me in tears because saurfang was ready to give up hope in the horde itself and zappy boi was able to rekindle his hope... looks like sylvanas cant kill hope like she thought
Mmrrggll love your channel my dood!
While I agree, it feels like this is what Blizzard meant to release later but pushed it up due to horde backlash. It's the perfect counter to the Sylvanis Warbringer.
Hi Mmrrggll! I wonder if this cinematic came before the planned date, coz of the players' reactions on the Saylvanas video... or not...
I'm not sure :)
What's your opinion?
Except the part where she is just as evil and Saurfang is doing nothing about it except attempted suicide.