What's The Best Sounding Speaker Ever?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2022
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Downloads:
👉 LGK 2.1 Sound Clips Downloads: bit.ly/3RJeMK9
👉 Original Music Files (for comparison): bit.ly/3ROjUwQ
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Jack Johnson Subplots: • Subplots
Allison Krauss New Favorite: • Alison Krauss & Union ...
Vienna Teng Anna Rose: • Vienna Teng - Anna Rose
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What's The Best Sounding Speaker Ever? - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
The best sounding speakers are always the next speaker that you plan to buy
Sadly that's true 😂😊
If the next speaker is the KEF LS50 (and family) When I bought mine the best Hi Fi store in my city didn’t have them on display, for demo or otherwise. I wonder why? 😀 When I decided to buy from them, they had them .. but stacked and boxed in the basement. The guy who sold me them barely said a word to me. He knew.
+1. .. A trueness no man can deny.
@@seabud6408 Definitely not the "best speaker" by far. While it is popular, there are also a great many that don't like it. The problem I have with it are the looks, and the price. I personally don't think it is worth the price given that you can get the Q-150 with similar performance for MUCH less.
I BOUGHT MY INFINITY QLS-1’s IN 1978
AND STILL AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, THEY CONTINUE TO BLOW ME AWAY !!!
THE IMAGE & SOUND STAGE + ACCURACY IN ALL ASPECTS
HUMAN VOICE, ETC..
AT ALL VOLUME LEVELS THEY PERFORM THEIR DUTIES
That's very cool. I just bought my "forever" speakers - I hope they outlast me 😊
Long time Watcher (relatively) and first time Responder...
Wow very Revealing recordings! Fantastic stuff... Great recordings, extremely clear and accurate sounding in comparison to the orginal tracks.
Really makes you understand the effort put into the design and production of the 'LGK 2.1's' (would expect nothing less of course from you guys) 🙂
Thank you again for the Downloads you provided... really nice experience being able to listen to it after watching your video!
i really enjoy the serious engineering you offer. and i understand most of it...but i really love the way you promote the DIY approach to building speakers.
Thanks for the insightful videos. Since I live in Europe, it makes more sense for me to have my speakers updated by someone close to me. Since a year, my Audio Physics have been equipped with new high-quality filters with Jantzen Superior Caps and CrossCaps and the cabling has also been completely replaced with Van Damme Blue series. Unfortunately I can't post pictures here, but I can say that this investment is a much better investment for me than new speakers.
This is a great and very sincere video
Kudos to you Danny
Good to see new products from you danny. Can't wait to see a review/video on the NX-Studios!
Those are coming. I have just been holding off until we got good stock of the tweeters.
@@dannyrichie9743 Awesome! Perfect timing cuz I'm finally about ready to finish my build. So exciting!
And p.s. the LGK 2.0 /C-speaker ideas are awesome! Now you got me considering a full blown GR 5.1 monitoring setup for my studio! 🔈 🔈 🔈🔈🔈
I own a set of OHM Acoustics Model F speakers since new. If you like a room filling , sound like you are there speakers you will love these. Something can be absolutely accurate but not filled with emotion. Everyone who has heard my speakers are absolutely stunned by what they sound like.
I’m glad you said that not every speaker works for every application because I believe that is so true! I’m probably a little outdated but the Quad ESL-63 electrostatic speakers are perfect FOR ME. Sometime in the 80s a recommendation for the perfect speaker for opera lovers appeared in Opera News, and as an opera lover in need of speakers, I immediately searched for a way to audition them and immediately felt they were the perfect speakers for this opera lover. That was in the 80s and I still think they are the perfect speakers FOR ME. I like to joke that I’m going to have them buried with me.
I think it depends on the application of the speakers, not exactly the musical genre. In recording houses, they might have one or three different sets of monitors, but generally, the producer will track on one set. That is the situation no matter what type of music they're making. So in that sense, yes, one pair of speakers can be very effective for critical listening, no matter the genre of music. But on the consumer level, people tend to like speakers that lean toward their preference for music. So the issue is maybe more application-specific, not as much genre specific.
Technics back around that same time made a speaker line specifically for "opera" (even denoted the very first pair ever made to Austria State Opera), the Technics Audio Flat Panel series SB-AFP 10, 100, and 1000. I have heard they are the bar none best speakers for playing back opera as they were designed specifically for that purpose as the president of Matsushita Industries at the time was a huge fan of classical opera and wanted a speaker that could "replicate it perfectly in the home". they are very rare though, the 10s can be found here and there commonly for a few thousand a pair (very comparable in size to the Quad ESL-63), the 100s which are twice the size of the 10s like once every 4 or 5 years, and the 1000s which again are twice the size of the 100s...well....it's mostly just legend that they actually exist, none have ever come up for sale on the used market during the internet age (seriously, no records exist of a sale by anyone in the last 25+ years), so good luck finding the pure unobtanium speaker.
Quad ESL 63 loudspeakers are still the most natural sounding and excellent in reproducing sound of acoustic instruments but not meant for loud rock music.
Downside - high maintenance.
Remarkable recordings, wow! It was very difficult to distinguish the original from the LGK 2.1 speaker recorded version. Vienna Tang is easily among my favourite vocalists, such a sweet voice.
Love the cheetah shirt, it conveys Danny's sprinting prowess so well! Boss!
I'd love to hear conversations between Danny and Paul from PS Audio as a series of talks.
Finally, the correct answer at 1:50. And you are brave to say so. Not unlike owning the Infinity IRSV's. Best sounding components need the appropriate room. (I haven't viewed the entire video yet but I just love hearing truth.)
Thanks for the video! The LGK 2.1 exaggerate the highs a little bit more than the original recording. Otherwize, it sounds really nice!
Danny liked ATC. I have the SCM 100's they have the famous midrange driver in them. Voices sound incredible. He needs to have a listen to them see what he thinks.
That depth (or forwardness) of the highs vs lows is hugely determined by the phase response. Lower crossover point essentially pushes back the highs. If you want the best depth you need to avoid phase shift in higher frequencies. That means pushing down crossover points or linearizing phase with FIR. It's something no one is talking about. They say the effects of phase aren't audible (due to flawed testing and untrained listeners) but if you play with FIR to only affect the phase response (no effect to frequency response) you'll easily hear the changes in depth. Many people prefer the unnatural forward sound that you get from high amounts of phase shift since it's what they're used to with most speakers. It's the difference between having elements sitting in your room in front of you vs having a window open up to a different world. Unfortunately many audiophiles want to feel like the musicians are in their room (which includes interacting far too much with the room to get that sense of "here")
How can I play with this using my mini dsp? Can I? I have a pair of diy open baffle speakers that I’m interested in going fill active on. I’m using kef q100 as the mod and hi with analog xo right now crossing to 15” drivers at 300hz and those pass to subs at 80hz. Can you do FIR with mini dsp?
"Unfortunately many audiophiles want to feel like the musicians are in their room"
Really unfortunate. How dare they.
Completely agree with your experience................most audiophiles ( and some idiophiles ) do not understand that and glorify the shortcommings as being a high end audiophile's asset................So wrong they are !
What is FIR?
@@Vincent-lw2sp Finite Impulse Response (FIR).
Your remarks about the tweeter being forward. I've found the same thing in my testing. I drive alot so my main system is in my truck. I have 4-inch Dayton and 1-inch Peerless tweeters on a plate coming off of the pillars in the carners of the dash. 6.5 MBQuart in the doors and alpine r12 subs. I had to mount the tweeter towards the inside and angled further in of the mids to get my time alignment correct and have a complete stereo image. Once I tuned it to a flat response 1/12 octave +-4db 20-25k. I use a Astell&Kern DAC as my source. Sounds amazing.
That gray Encore looks great!
I rebuilt a pair of Polk SDA 2Bs with updated components on the crossovers that would blow most modern speakers out of the water. Driving them with vintage Adcom 565 mono blocks and a monarchy audio M10 pre with a modern DAC and a theta data basic for cd listening.
@Danny Ritchie
Could be cool to make a 3-way speaker kit using a tweeter, 3-4” midrange, and a 10” woofer that plays Full Range, no sub needed.
Awesome job (Again). I really need to check these out. Thanks
A wonderful bookshelf speaker demonstration.🔉🎶
Great video. Can’t wait to hear them 👍
very happy with how you explain things lately.. great video..
Those sound files made my current full range drivers sound awesome. I have Mark Audio Alpair 7.3 drivers in some homemade bookshelf cabinets as near field monitors.
We've measured and tested some of the Mark Audio drivers. If you like those then you'll love our LGK drivers. They are next level performance.
Yep, that’s the bottom line… every application is completely different. And within that application, the type of music people listen to also affect what speakers sound best for each individual person.
I forgot to mention that I have the same or very similar 3" full range paper cone drivers with the whizzer cone and copper phase plug.they sound great!
I'm glad you got inspired for the LGK 2.1 on my Cambridge Audio AeroMax 2 you reviewed some months ago......😄 cause you liked the concept of a fullrange driver with a midbass driver.....My Aeromax 2 go down to almost 40hz with very good bass and the flat BMR Fullrange driver works great too......I have not been able to install the upgrade kit I bought you yet, but Im sure they will sound even better with it.....looking forward
Yeah, that one was very similar and a pretty nice speaker.
Boenicke been doing this for 20 years now. Concept of a full range driver and supporting bass driver is going back 60+ years.
@@wellroundedsound2422 thank you for the information.......
@@wellroundedsound2422 I checked their website and their speakers are very interesting....and the engineering behind them looks very fine
@@fernandosierra7798 You are welcome.
The LGK 2.1 is a WAW/Fast (Woofer Assisted Wideband) from Full Range speaker wold, the best for wide soundstage
Oh wow, usually I'm very skeptical but the recording of these basically sounded like the original + added room reverb. Wonderful sounding speakers for sure!
I’m definitely interested in the central speaker. I’ll order it as soon as “Tyler Acoustics“ sends me the “T2’s” I ordered.
A bit off topic, but a little birdie mentioned that you me you are doing an upgrade to the Maggie 3.7i. The improvement on my 20.1s when I upgraded the crossover was mind blowing. So I CAN'T WAIT to see what you do with the 3.7i !!!!!
Yes, that was an extremely huge upgrade. It wasn't just a parts upgrade. They needed a re-design badly. I will be shooting a video on it pretty soon as well.
Want to see it tooo
5:20 I think the Series 3 ii Sub (Bose) I just picked up for $21 at a thrift (one that always has speakers for some reason) - it has a pass thru filter like that. I'm excited to try it as soon as my Sony SS CS5's arrive. If not I'll be buying another filter pair - they're cheap. We'll see what-what as Time, Space, and Materiality roll by!
EXACTLY!
Even if it had a perfectly balanced, pure output for whatever input was applied, there will be people who don't care for it.
These things are quite subjective, to put it mildly.
Oh, and that's without taking budget, power levels, whatever is driving them out of the equation - not to mention the enviroment, as you pointed out.
Great overview...well spoken and explained.
Are you going to experiment with passive radiators on the towers?
Keep up the awesome work.
Of course "The Best Sounding Speaker Ever?" is the one you make! More like the best sounding speakers are the ones that sound the best to "your" ears! ;) Ironically the drivers you are using look very similar to Joseph Audio, which I do like!
Really cool that you carried out this little project. Creative and explorative!
I loved the sound of the baby Advents book shelve speakers ~40 yrs. ago, and the ESS Heil Air Motion Transformer (AMT) tweeter (but could never afford it)
Thank You for sharing your expertise. I would really like to know what crossover point you used for the added woofers and what size they were.
They crossed around 80Hz.
The ELAC Vela 409s are great with a high current amp.
*WOW!!!* that was from the LGKs? _incredible_
Yes sir, and thanks for listening.
In all the recordings the string instruments gave it away almost immediately on my system as well as the different staging. The vocals on the other hand where very close, I some ways I perfered the 2.1 clips because the vocals just glowed a bit especially with Vienna tang. The piano on Vienna tang was pretty good on the lgk.
Thanks for listening. Not bad for a little speaker huh?
What speaker was made that performs the best under most circumstances in the most room environments without too many modifications? A few speakers come to mind that probably fit that criteria. Not everyone wants to go and teak a speaker's crossover and drive layout to get some sort of SPL or whatever correct. So out of the box, I think of speakers like the Sony SS-GR1, the Infinity IRS-V and later Genesis systems, or even the legendary Apogee Diva or even the Technics AFP-1000 (if they even exist anymore). Personally, one of the best speakers I have personally listened to in a room was an old pair of JBL L-300s probably built in the mid 1970s. Those things were just insane with great response, just imagine what people thought of them when they were brand new!
I still own my 1979 JBL 4311's. I remember listening to the L-300 and comparing them to the equivalent TANNOYS, which were a bit more expensive. The TANNOYS were amazing but the L-300's definitely were a bit better. They both were performing at 1/2 a watt to 1 watt each, as I had my eyes set on the bang box ( switch box ) and the wattage meter. Then I turned the volume to 10 watts and I then only dreamed of owning them one day$$$$$.
Do you think the RSL Speedwoofer 10S MKii is a decent subwoofer?
Thanks
Great video and thanks! You may not have the time or inclination to sell(and manufacture) the in-line filters, but people would buy them like hot cakes I think.
And to be clear, I understand I would be paying for custom for my speakers.
I'll look into that.
Great information. Off to listen to those tracks!
Hey Richie. Brian from south Africa. Love your show, absolutely brilliant. Quick question what amp is ideal for encores. Super thanks
The Encores are easy to drive and can be driven with just about anything with 10 watts of power or more.
Thanks, Sensei!
All I can say about the soundclips is WOW. The LGK 2.1 sounds really excellent! For fun, I mixed the Allison Krauss track, alternating between the original and the sound clip. This shows just how close of a reproduction the LGK 2.1 does on its own. It's clear, as you say, the bottom end wasn't picked up well in the recording, but above the sub, sounds really nice! If you want the wav file, let me know where I should send it. I think others would enjoy hearing them swap immediately back-to-back.
Thanks for listening and comparing. The original wave file is available from a link right under the video.
@@dannyrichie9743 You're welcome! Yep, I created an A/B comparison track from the two wav files you provided (the original vs. the sound clip). It starts with the original, then every 7 seconds after that it switches between the two. I did my best to time-align them.
Anyway, I plan on doing the other two test tracks today just for fun. Great work on the LGK 2.1!
@@musictypefoundry7345 Ah, that sounds great.
@@dannyrichie9743 I've prepared the A/B swapping tracks. Do you want them?
@@musictypefoundry7345 Sure, I'd love to hear them.
The room, more important than the music genre and much of the other gear/components.
Kind of apples and sugar here, I don't think it's an issue of room VS audio sources, they work in, parallel. One has to have a great room to hear ANY signal source (music genre) better. It's kind of like saying an engine vs the wheels in a car, but the engine doesn't compete with the wheels, the engine works in tandem.
I guess I could have stated it better. But I don’t disagree with your additions rather than I’ll try to restate my intention.
So many of us focus on, and chase, the “perfect” sound via the speaker when in most cases it not advisable until the room is accounted for in some capacity.
It’s very easy to endlessly cycle speakers (and all other components at great time and often expense) because without at least a modest understanding of room effect (and speaker placement within said room) we really aren’t able to determine what any specific speakers are capable of.
@@GoggleAX my 2 cents - room acoustics are like the condition of the road, how good that brand new car is but it still needs a good road to drive on to get the full benefit.
@@GoggleAX The problem with room treatments is that it becomes a VERY expensive endeavor. and if u are buying $500 speakers, room treatment really doesn't exist in your budget. Most of us don't even have room to listen that has a decent size to allow music to bloom, or let our speakers stand out from the wall a good distance. So room treatment is mostly a far-afterthought with 90% of audio aficionados.
@@wwlittlejOfficial
DIY acoustic treatment is a huge value... there's no force multiplier like DIY room treatment.
There's countless online examples... so much so that there's misinformation too.
I'll be glad to point any that may be interested in the right direction.
It's quite easy, and yes... the room is the one filter that shapes every listening experience... ie., an overlay atop everything.
Love how down to earth you are. Not trying to push your flagship product but just being realistic and honest. Some of us spend years trying to get the "best" speaker, only to realize, we listen to our tiny desk top speakers the most. In this day and age with spaces getting smaller, it's a real plus to have tiny point source speakers that sound amazing without breaking your bank. The imaging on stuff like that can be great. Once I found point source speaker designs, I never looked back. What you sometimes loose in frequency extension you gain in spades with image coherency.
Thank you.
Totally agree
agree! and thanks for this comment:) there is no panacea for audio - every speaker has it's pluses and minuses - the most important thing is to find the "right one" for you simply put:) cheers!
Royd,Epos,mission,especially monitors,just love them
Second!!! Yay! Another great video Danny! Cheers!😎👍
Your videos are great. I'm happy I found you.... just last night.
Danny looks clean, good job Danny.
Very excited for this product launch! Been looking for small sealed speakers for our little home theater.
Most interested to see the horizontal off-axis of the center channel, as it has been a huge struggle to find something reasonably sized/priced to have reasonable clarity for the dialog at 45ish degrees horizontal off axis.
45 degrees off axis is a lot - typical speakers do not adress this purpose in respect to a flat response the full range - clarity is the same like on axis, but the pressure will be down 3...6 or more dB of axis depending on the setup
@@ahnenpost5237 The typical MTM designs seem to always have huge holes in the response starting around 30 degrees off axis, which makes speech really hard to understand.
Three way designs (with a mid woofer below the tweeter in the middle) tend to be able to cross to the side woofers lower, and have better horizontal response. But they're huge and generally on the expensive side.
Hoping Danny's design with the full range driver crosses low enough that speech is still understandable around 45 degrees off axis 🤞
@@krjohnson29 may be you mean the vertical off-axis - ok, anyways, most speakers on the market use high crossover frequencies, because the the complete spakers power can be much higher, because lower crossover points lead to a limit caused by the tweeters max input. So, if you built your own speakers and use lower crossover frequs, about 1,500 to 2000, you can eliminate this issue. If you watched Danny's videos about fixing uneven responses, you will find, that in most cases lowering the crossover frequency fixed all issues together. May be, this is the hint you needed.
Instead of horizontal, I'd strongly suggest three identical, vertically oriented LCRs across the front.
Horizontal center channels are simply compromised from the start.
Those on a budget, not wanting to pursue DIY, I'd recommend three JBL 308P across the front.
$200-$250 each, active, bi-amped, DSP contoured, ... immense value and performance for the money.
The small active monitor segment offers incredible performance... and an ultra competitive marketplace.
@@FOH3663 Totally agree with the idea of using three identical LCRs in front in theory. And if I had a setup with, say, a projector and an acoustically transparent screen I would totally go with that.
Unfortunately, this is a living room situation. And interior design related constraints from the love of my life means this needs to fit under the TV. And there is not enough room for any vertical speaker in that location...
Monitor Audio Studio 20SE are great speakers for just over £2000 when they came out in the late 90s
Listening to the files, your system adds some colour to the sound that makes it sound better on some tracks.
Thanks for listening.
I dont agree with that assertion. I would say that if anything the speakers just clean up the YT compression. Try this: if u have a DAW or some freebie digital editing software (like Audacity) put both files in track lanes, and continuously switch between the two listening for about 30 seconds of each. U will hear the speakers sounding cleaner than the compressed YT files. I'm going to buy the actual wave digital files maybe tomorrow for better accuracy, but right off the bat, the level at which the speakers sound to the actual source is literally amazing.
@@wwlittlejOfficial I'm comparing the wav files, what are you comparing??
@@wwlittlejOfficial The uncompressed wave files are available in the link we provided.
@@REX4340 I'm comparing the recorded speaker files to the YT (compressed) audio files as provided by the links, which is why I said u will hear the speakers (recorded) files sounding cleaner than the YT compressed files.
EDIT: did not realize there were links to the uncompressed music files as well. Kinda weird Danny provided links to the YT compressed videos, lol, but there ya go. My error there. Gonna give them a good listen tonight, maybe I'll hear what u hear, REX.
Danny: For a desktop application in a small 12x12 room where you want the audio (games,music) to beam at your face, would there be anything to gain from having a variant of the X-Bravo that substitutes the LGK's small wide-band driver, in lieu of the Bravo's tweeter?
Interesting thought. We might have to give it a try at some point.
Seems like you're creating some great small bookshelf options. Are there problems with small open baffle designs? Bass would be an issue but a sub would cover that.
The speakers have to play down low enough to reach a sub. Putting small speakers into an open baffle makes that tough.
I got the Triangle Borea BR03 speakers at $229 open box item. I am glad the sound quality for my 86# TV.
We had one of those sent in for upgrades. It had some problems areas, but the biggest problem was how hard it was to remove the drivers. It was practically unserviceable.
All triangle i tried are great for me !
Best speaker I have ever heard, ADS L-2030. These speakers were used for recording in Telarc studios in the 80's.
How sweet Allison Krauss.
Cat Steven's lp Tea for the Tillerman, I read years ago was mastered on Magnepans.
These look fantastic!
Have you considered using an arrayed 3" set of drivers. Apparently, Tekton and their genius have had great success doing so.
I admit I wasn't blown away with an LCR set I returned but many are wowed.
Using a array of 3" drivers does not work very well. I shot a video explaining why: th-cam.com/video/1V4Jw2sl0Cg/w-d-xo.html
Actually he uses multiple tweeters, and most of them are used as mids with only a single tweeter acting as a real tweeter.
@@dannyrichie9743 The thought process is very similar then.
Like a Sonab from the 70's? I have a pair of Sonabs I'd love to have updated. Wonderful speakers.
Properly balanced/in harmony ))
Looks good Danny. Does GR sell those in line filters?
We don't, but we can help you figure out how to make them.
@@hoth2112 I realy would like to have this manuals.
pretty amazing
Danny, did you spray paint those brass looking screws on the encores? or did you use actual brass with round torque head screws?
Just painted screws.
I have 2 x Fane design locally built J bins with E Tone 805's and two Emilar EH-500 loaded with some P Audio compression drivers all powered by a ZPE-1000.
They sound is incredible at reasonable levels and yes you can feel it if you turn it up. In fact you can see you vision blur when cranked.
And yes this is pro PA gear and yes most of it is more than 40 years old.
if getting technical magico speakers have the best ''box'' in the world and amongst the best drivers but you are right ,there are alot of variables ,you need a realy good amp to run them and tempered room ,clean electrical power line and so on ,you realy have to work to get results .....
Simply stunning and maintain composure even when driven hard !
@@paulb4661 well said .....
@@shaynakash4222 I always say, that cabinets are the weakest link in commercial speakers, mainly due to manufacturing and somewhat shipping costs. Taking into account the factor, by which surface area of the cabinet surpasses that of the drivers, careful composition, profiling and damping are crucial. No going back to vented, once you hear a well made sealed either.
@@paulb4661 exactly ....
Magnepan 20.7s with Coda 16.0 👍
No compromise just music 🎶
In my humble opinion, you left out an extremely important aspect of choosing a speaker: the listener's ear! I personally like paper vs poly woofers and metallic domed vs soft domed tweeters. Also the amplifier being used makes a difference in how the a particular speaker responds, even without "upgrading" the cheap caps and resistors in most low end speakers. I have a mid level AV amp that I run with all the filters and "crap" turned off and just use the equalized room adjustments and my low end non-upgraded JBL speakers sound great to me. I was raised on JBL 4311 monitors in the 70s so I think my ear is pretty discerning. Thanks for letting me rant......
I used to think that I liked paper drivers to the exclusion of all others. Until I did blind listening tests. I could not reliably pick out the paper coned driver, there was no "metal driver sound" common to all or even most metal types and the same with polypropolene, aramid or carbon etc, it was all placebo or my expectations and bias. Design (of driver and speaker) is so much more important than cone material. I'm running biggish closed box 3 ways with a planar tweeter, two 4" paper and pleated cloth mids (D'appolito in an internal 3 litre box) and a 10" aluminium / magnesium bass driver and love them.
@@englishsteve1465 That's "sounds" (pun intended) like quite a set up. I remember the old Klipsch KG series ran with poly-ish woofers in the front and paper passive radiator in the back and the horns could be upgraded from cloth dome to titanium. I would venture to say most speaker systems mass produced can be improved with better damping of the components and cabinets and upgrading the crossovers. Manufactures choose profit over performance. I am a tinkerer so I take pleasure in improving the manufacturer's shortcomings. At least, for the most part, they get the box volume right for the desired low frequency response. Cheers!
@@englishsteve1465 That being said, I've been to live concerts ranging from ELP to George Strait to live orchestra. To my knowledge, I have never heard a planar tweeter or a midrange in a 3 liter box. I have heard live music and it does not sound like a CD "mastered" in a studio. I trust these old experienced ears; they can take me back 50 years with uncanny accuracy.
I love ribbon tweeters. I think we all have our preferences
Sounds great , what is the components quality in a crossover...
Can you talk about designing a crossover for these and your parts selection that will affect the sound.
For example i noticed that Miflex copper KPCU even when used as a bypass makes speakers disappear a lot better and helps space and imaging a lot....
I think I might do a follow up video on this one and go into that.
@@dannyrichie9743 Thanks Danny... 👍
@@dannyrichie9743 I would really like a video about difference in sonic quality between different caps , resistors , inductors .... maybe in a form of a chat where you give examples of these sonic differences .
I do know that these can give a final tune to specific system needing final balancing touch and these parts swap can do just that ... Differences can be significant and well worth the try.
Almost if you could offer different voicing of the crossover from bright to warm and from tame to lot of detail and harmonics .... Just a thought here .
@@kdomster9141 I did shoot a video on crossover parts.
@@dannyrichie9743 I remember it was pretty interesting, more detail on topic would help.
Voicing tonality is such interesting subject and impossible to test measure like some folks may try to 😉
That was a beautiful answer LO. L.
Hi Danny, are those Inline Filter available to buy in your website store? Thanks!
No, but I will shot a new video just on those things.
@@dannyrichie9743 yes! please do!!
@@dannyrichie9743 thanks!
The speaker with the FR driver and a woofer.
Make the same again, but no small driver hole in the box (just the woofer). And mount the FR driver open on top of the box! You will have to change the crossover filter for it. Once you get it to sound good, it will sound really spatial with an amazing holographic soundstage. Try angling the open driver upwards so it sounds the most holographic, and mount it like that (you need to tinker). I did it at 45° angle with poly pipe glued around the magnet and the pipe was cut at 45° angle and screwed on top of the box. Mine are the best speakers I head! You can control voice tone with the crossover, with woofer content and FR content. It's not lean in the med if you do it right.
Do you sell or ship to the Uk
I have tannoy dual concentrics very good indeed but yours is like to try
We ship to the UK all the time.
LS3/5A😁
The best sounding speaker is the one that sounds best to you. There are people to whom speakers are tools and those speakers are unique for the people using them for certain ends. In the end, its completely subjective. No other criteria needs be met except how you like them.
Danny, Which open baffle sub (single mono) would you pair with the 2.1 ? I guess the Double Trouble would be overkill.
A single double trouble would be ideal.
Nice but i would like to see some graph.I m fun of linear speakers like,ATC Dutch & Dutch.. how do i know if they match my frequency graph target to buy them?
You could visit our website and see all of the measurements on them.
Danny I love seeing what you do with what are supposed to be top branded speakers but are actually junk such a Klipsch, I don't care for their speakers except for their higher end speakers which I have seen you improve them. As for their normal product line they are just crap. I own SVS speakers and have been slowly building my system as for I'm not wealthy by any means. I own a Marantz SR 7015 home theater receiver as for what I could afford. I trust and value your opinion and was honestly surprised that you didn't bash the SVS brand all that bad as for build quality other than the crossovers. You really have great insight on speaker builds and how things should and shouldn't be done with speaker build I appreciate your insight
I give praise where it is do, but I won't sugar coat it when it is bad. Some are good and some are bad.
@@dannyrichie9743 I like your honesty and I have told others about your channel that they should look into your videos and products
Have you ever heard the dyanco a25 I purchased them many years for 180 dollars a per and still use them.
Pound per pound they were gold!!!
The old Electrovoice 1B Eliminator works well in a large room, warehouse.
A tip 😊😊
2 way speakers with a subwoofer are the most less space consumers and most versitile .
Even better then dedicated 3 way speakers sound wise.
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A 3 way Encore using the 3” from the 2.1 make sense? Curious about the possibility
It's possible, thought the LGK dricer will need to be pushed up a little higher, as it still needs to be put into its own airspace, making the speaker a little bigger in the process.
Just checked out "new favorite" on my newcom nc300 computer speakers and WOW! i cant imagine that recording on my zalytron Aria 5R's with 4-12's! and Silver Kimber interconnects! And yes, TH-cam and Spotify sound dead compared to the CD
what speaker du you have in the back?
Our NX-Treme model: gr-research.com/product/nx-treme/
Best 'speaker' (near field monitor) i've ever heard (had) is the Yamaha MSP7. It was 'good' enough for Apple Records Studio (and others) for mixing, it was more than good enough for me. Unfortunately I lost them (and everything else I once owned) in. wildfire. And sadly Yamaha no longer offers them.
Do you sell inline filter on your web shop? I do want to try cancel the frequency which below my speaker capable Range.
I'll do another video on those.
@@dannyrichie9743 Thanks Danny, I’m curious as well.
@@dannyrichie9743 thanks Danny, I saw your video very help. when I have any issue during i make them, I will email you. Cheers
What was the sub you used for the smallest speaker did you use. Model number 🤔
My room is 12' x 12', and I need 110db average at the listening position 6' away, and I have a 30 watt class A amp. Go!!! 😂
And, there's a big difference between professional monitors that let recording engineers know what's wrong with the mix, and home audio speakers that let listeners enjoy what's right with the music.
Hi Danny what DAC are you running 🏃♀️
It is a one off custom DAC that a group of guru's designed and built. It was a bit of a test bed for digital tweeks.
Thanks for your last tech tip. So, I bought a behringer ECM8000 compression balanced mic, zoom u-22 interface to USBto PC. I have my Goldchamp GC-4070L LCR meter. ive downloaded the crossover building software VituixCAD2. i also have live-lite music making software. what software do I use to measure the speaker output into the mic, into the software ? 20-20k with graph ? If you know of a free version that would be great lol. or other. one that does the specrto too.
The best deal on high quality and easy to use measurement system for the consumer is the Pocket Clio.
@@dannyrichie9743 awesome! im working my brainz out now with the REW
In the pro audio world, we want accurate instead of "best". I want to be able to hear if a recording made by me or one of my staff, has problems. The higher end models have matched amps (Bi-amped or tri-amped) and now DACs in each via AES.
Actually those speakers with built in amps and DAC's are really bottlenecked by the low quality level of the electronics.
@@dannyrichie9743 Sometimes yes, sometimes no. As you can imagine it is cost dependent. However, in most consumer and prosumer grade devices, matching the electronics (while possibly low in quality) will yield a better result. For example, many prosumer grade speakers (JBL ect at Guitar Center), have EQ curves built into the amp to compensate for the cabinet. So, yes there is a threshold of cost/performance ratio that is raised at certain levels. What concerns me most is that it seems what is available as a home stereo system is garbage below a thousand dollars. As someone who wants more people to enjoy music I welcome any improvement in that price range. In my business, manufacturers of high end studio monitors (>$8,000) do not want the quality of the sound of their products degraded by low quality amps or DACs in front of them. I guess they welcome the control and can justify some pretty hefty pricetags. YMMV!
Thank you for the video, Danny. Is there any guide to calculate the capacitor value for in-line filters?
You need to know the input impedance of your amp and the desired or target -3db down point. That determines the cap value that you need.
If you're using a receiver in a home theater application then the function likely already exists in your receiver. Just set the crossover frequency around 80Hz and set speakers to small. Add a subwoofer to cover those frequencies.
Where do I get these filters you show? How do you "blend" the sub(s)? ie. what subs do you use, and amps, etc?
I am about to shoot a video on the filters.