500 Years of Women's Hoops, Crinolines, Bustles, & Bums (aka the history of the skirt)

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  • @AbbyCox
    @AbbyCox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    My Image list & Sources were so long for this video I couldn't put them in the description, so if you're curious about my references and images go here: www.patreon.com/posts/sources-image-of-49865886
    😁

    • @sarahbethtucker5293
      @sarahbethtucker5293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      99

    • @s.f.nightingale1735
      @s.f.nightingale1735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know I'm late to this, but I had a Barbie doll as a child, and it's still hands down the best cake anyone ever made for me. Right up their with cheese bread, which is the other best thing my babysitter ever baked. I may be biased, he did build us a treehouse. No, actually, still the best cake ever.

    • @ReedCBowman
      @ReedCBowman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So how many Ell rulers did you get in the mail so far?

    • @mialinguiafranca
      @mialinguiafranca 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think we're forgetting where this idealization for hips and round butts came from...

  • @ells.bells.98
    @ells.bells.98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1607

    The musical choices in this deserve a Rachel Maksy style chefs kiss

    • @NerdsTravels
      @NerdsTravels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agreed.

    • @mirjanbouma
      @mirjanbouma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes!

    • @melimsah
      @melimsah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      One of her longer, wavy handed, zooming-in chefs kisses

  • @anonymousperson4214
    @anonymousperson4214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +795

    As someone who wore a giant hoopskirt around the very *ahem* entitled parents of other kids in my theatre group, I can tell you Nothing gets people out of your way like walking quickly in a hoopskirt. They part like it's a snow plow 😂
    Also, hoopskirts are really comfortable...
    Loved this video so, so much!

    • @Wingedshadowwolf
      @Wingedshadowwolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      😂

    • @popovka
      @popovka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Sounds like a female Moses parting the ocean :D :D

    • @Tinymoezzy
      @Tinymoezzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      That is how I social distanced lol

    • @mangle9143
      @mangle9143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Tinymoezzy 6 foot hoop skirts shall rise from their ashes

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I never liked the idea of them, it never acurred to me, that beside limiting where you can walk, they also limit how close poeple get to you . . . now I am intrigued. Social distancing inforced by cloths sounds like a dream ^^
      I love my corsets, they feel like a cross between wearing armor and getting a permanent hug ^^

  • @annapruitt5546
    @annapruitt5546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +948

    Taking up space with a giant skirt that forces people out of your way is genius and would be great for all of us rn with social distancing! Some people are not good at keeping their 6 foot distance. Imagine having a giant skirt that would block them away

    • @tealcanary5243
      @tealcanary5243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Just make it be intended for both genders, and make the skirts long enough to keep us ladies from having to shave our legs, plus adding a mechanism by which one can retract the hoops for sitting purposes, and that'd definitely be a winner.

    • @laurakissthechef4674
      @laurakissthechef4674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I would love that when I have to go to the grocery store!!!

    • @SwimmingInSunlight
      @SwimmingInSunlight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I dress in egl fashion so I've been poofing my way with petticoats for years now, highly recommended for commanding personal space 😂

    • @eddie9420
      @eddie9420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@tealcanary5243 The hoop skirts are bendy. You don't need to retract them.

    • @sisuguillam5109
      @sisuguillam5109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@tealcanary5243 Hoops in hoop dresses fold... so no problem when it comes to sitting.

  • @TheAgeofFabulous
    @TheAgeofFabulous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +576

    FYI when Nicole pulled out the bum roll, it looked like she was pulling out something *inappropriate* and I cracked my shit up. DIED.

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      Oh yeah, we were *dying* lol

    • @cinemaocd1752
      @cinemaocd1752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I thought the same thing...lol

  • @FrenchTheLlamaFTL
    @FrenchTheLlamaFTL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +654

    I'm definitely looking forward to the deep dive into men hating women asserting boundaries via clothing!

    • @aprillen
      @aprillen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      I feel like hoopskirts are the only viable weapon against manspreading on public transport

    • @mirjanbouma
      @mirjanbouma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@aprillen hoopskirt are more of a reverse Uno card in that regard, aren't they?

    • @aprillen
      @aprillen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@mirjanbouma Yes... it's an effective strategy, but I fear it won't give you the higher moral ground

    • @mirjanbouma
      @mirjanbouma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@aprillen moral high ground is what manipulative people use to get you to shut up. I'm good, thanks.

    • @laurahill9643
      @laurahill9643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I need this video so much!

  • @herestia_photography
    @herestia_photography 3 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    Spanish here. I'm not a beer drinker, but I promise with ALL MY SPANISH HEART that I'll use "hold my cerveza". I SWEAR!!

  • @thefairylibrarian3282
    @thefairylibrarian3282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +472

    I'm still very dissapointed that with social distancing and everything hoopskirts haven't come back into fashion

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      Same, but power sleeves are in fashion, so that kinda helps make up for it...

    • @mcwjes
      @mcwjes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Maybe we can use them to cope with post-covid social anxiety. Can't give up just yet.

    • @rdb4996
      @rdb4996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreeed! Such a missed opportunity

    • @WitchOracle
      @WitchOracle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@mcwjes honestly, I'm very seriously considering outfitting my wardrobe with a few wide full skirts (maybe around an under the knee to tea length) and some stiff petticoats to wear as personal bubble armor when I have to go back out in public again... I think it makes a bit of sense to see something like that emerge as society becomes more social again, rather than during the more isolationist period we've been in - as long as we ourselves make it so!

    • @lyreparadox
      @lyreparadox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@WitchOracle And it offers ample opportunity for more pocketses!

  • @josenavau7136
    @josenavau7136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    Very informative and hilarious, as always, loved it! As a Spanish guy, and a Spanish Baroque Era Fashion freak, I really enjoyed the minutes Abby spent talking about the Spanish fashion, although I'd like to specify some things: Infanta Maria Teresa looooved her dresses, the "guardainfante" (widened version of the farthingale worn in Spain, Portugal, Mexico, Genoa, Milan, Rome...), just like her step mother and sister loved them too. Same for her headdresses. In Spain only hands and face was visible in ladies, so it was really important to have a dramatic, striking outfit. Attractiveness was all about that, and every woman was very aware of it. Furniture was placed against the walls, and ladies sat on cushions right on the floor, so that's why those enormous skirts were possible and their use lasted for decades. Maria Teresa had a very happy childhood, except for her mom's and older brother's death, she loved dancing and performing theater plays with her ladies and "meninas", and her unhappy days started the day she married her cousin Louis XIVth of France, who constantly cheated on her and didn't allow her to have any prominence in the French court.
    If anyone wonders how Spanish fashion looked like during the "Mantua" Era, at some point in the 1670's, ladies left the guardainfante just for visiting the royal family, and went back to using something similar to the farthingale, now rather bell-shaped, with a deep bateau neckline, close fitting upper sleeves and huge, contrasting lower sleeves with lace cuffs as big as a hat brim. Lustrous, loose hair, sometimes adorned with braids, spiral curls, jewels, feathers and/or ribbons, and enormous, statement earrings that reached the naked shoulders. It's actually one of my favorite periods, very romantic.

    • @Eloraurora
      @Eloraurora 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      This was a delightfully informative comment. Alas, my brain is attempting to parse 'guardainfante' as 'child protector' and I am giggling too much to respond intelligently.

    • @MrSludov
      @MrSludov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@Eloraurora It´s just a mistranslation. Guardainfante means "ocult pregnancy". In XV´Th century, Enrique´s IV wife, who was accused of improper intimacy with the Constable of Castile, Beltrán de la Cueva, invented this garment to hide her pregnancy form the court´s and her husband´s eyes.

    • @MrSludov
      @MrSludov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@Eloraurora I would suggest you to read the delicious "Trip to Spain" written by the Countess D´Alnuoy in 1679, in which you can find most enchanting details about the fashions, clothing, makeup, hairstyles, gossip, uses, etiquette and protocol at the Spanish court in the last quarter of S. XVII. I would also recomend to review the portraits of Carlos II, Maria Luisa de Orleans and Mariana de Neoburgo by Jean Van Kessel II to have a better knowledge of fashion at Madrid in 1670-90´s.
      www.google.es/search?q=Jean+van+Kessel+hijo+retratos&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiw_MeEuvfvAhVNeRoKHZRvAbMQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=Jean+van+Kessel+hijo+retratos&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1DWngFYnakBYIOuAWgAcAB4AIABSYgBjQSSAQE5mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=wZRzYPCXEM3yaZTfhZgL&bih=1007&biw=1920

    • @Eloraurora
      @Eloraurora 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MrSludov Thank you!

    • @josenavau7136
      @josenavau7136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@MrSludov well, by that time (last quarter of the 15th century), the guardainfante wasn't invented yet. She was supposed to use the "verdugado" (farthingale). Verdugado comes from verdugo, that means elastic, green reed or branch, and also means an executioner or tormentor, because they used those green reeds to whip convicted people. I think the verdugado derived from the mediterranean fashion, in the late Middle Ages, of wearing dresses with horizontal stripes or aplique tapes. Indeed, some by depictions of queen Isabella, in the late 15th century, you can see horizontal stripes, but cannot tell if they have reeds inserted or not (her confessor hated that garment and wanted it banned, he also said that it was created in Valladolid, one of the main towns in Northern Castille. The guardainfante, which yes, means "baby keeper" or "baby concealer", was invented in the 1st half of the 1630's, it first looked like a 1860's ball gown crinoline, dome shaped. Then by the end of the decade a suptuary law forbade skirt hemline perimeter to exceed 3, 5 meters, so tailors might have said: alright, we keep a 3,5 meters hemline perimeter, but we leave the volume at hip level as it is. So that's how the typical trapeze silhouette appeared. Women used knee length guardainfante frameworks, usually for everyday attire, which had a more rectangular silhouette, but upper class ladies, or for special occasions, they used an ankle length framework, clearly trapezoidal in shape. Besides, it's volume increased during the next decades, so by the late 1660's, it's horizontal width exceeded the height of the wearer, and it's width at hip level was just enough to reach the upper hoop with your fingertips in order to maneuver. For that purpose, and talking about pockets, there were slits at the skirt's sides, concealed by a shield shaped patches, called "golpes" (same as the bullfighter's bolero shoulder pads). Anyway, guardainfante bodices did have a couple of functional pockets in their enormous, oval flaps, derived from those in gentlemen's suits.

  • @cincocats320
    @cincocats320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    First of all...props on how long it took until "I like big butts" was used. That level of restraint shows you are a true professional.
    Second, as someone who identifies as Tina Belcher, I feel safe in saying she appreciates ALL the butt information but has been left disturbed and unfulfilled by the lack of male booty representation.
    "Butts...butts...butts"

    • @missvioletnightchild2515
      @missvioletnightchild2515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      We need a video about male butts stat

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A matching pair of wonderful vids on male butts & codpieces pleeeease Abby? 🙋‍♀️ (Italian Renaissance mens' hose with doublet jackets was complete booty-city!!)

  • @shelbichandler7571
    @shelbichandler7571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    Learning about what people wore or just things they had in the home makes me feel a lot closer to history than war.

    • @HosCreates
      @HosCreates 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Right?

    • @mirjanbouma
      @mirjanbouma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Right!

    • @bewilderbeastie8899
      @bewilderbeastie8899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      The way people go on about history being all about war makes me think they've never actually taken a history course. we keep all that rubbish separated into military history. Social and cultural history are the bigger players nowadays.

    • @chimerasofhafgufa
      @chimerasofhafgufa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bewilderbeastie8899 my history classes only include things about how countries were governed and who had what wars... which makes history just a jumble of weird numbers i struggle to remember any meaning of
      you aren't expected to express intetest in culture cuz 'its not an art class'

    • @bewilderbeastie8899
      @bewilderbeastie8899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@chimerasofhafgufa I'm talking about university level here, where you actually do figure out what field of historical research appeals to you the most. History as it's taught in schools is horrendous.

  • @kenna176
    @kenna176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    Great video as always, but the stellar reenactment of the scene with Mr. Tape & his wife really sold the whole story for me. 😂

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      I think I’m ready for a motion picture directing gig now. 😂

    • @mnels5214
      @mnels5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      There's so few who can really get the balance of drama, sex, and action. That clip had it all.

    • @lucie4185
      @lucie4185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I think Chrissy's bum stole the scene tbh.

    • @rdb4996
      @rdb4996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes!

  • @sarahtaylor4264
    @sarahtaylor4264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    Was this an excuse to play guilty pleasure 90s-2000s songs about butts?
    I'm in.

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Oh. Abso-frickin-lutely. Juvenile and I go *way* back. 😂

    • @sarahtaylor4264
      @sarahtaylor4264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@AbbyCox Great video as always.

  • @lynn858
    @lynn858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Can confirm huge skirts are lovely. Huge tule ruffle tutu skirts were brilliant for catering adult parties - probably more effective than workman’s coveralls would have been.
    It requires far more intentional effort for entitled men to rest a hand on your lower back “sorry hun, I just wanted to get passed you!”
    Dude, I’m staff. I’m clearly working right now. And the buffet isn’t served since I’m still brining out food, so there’s absolutely no reason you need to be within arms length of me.
    And if you’re crushing my skirt to reach close enough to touch me, you have so obviously intended to invade my space, I absolutely will get you banned.
    I’m sure the huge skirts, and the padding were similarly a way for women to display themselves as the beautiful snacks they were, while keeping hands off of them.
    We’re dressing for the other people who know what went into looking this good, and for their approval and complements. Not for strangers or acquaintances who wish to possess the body inside this elaborate confection.

  • @Chibihugs
    @Chibihugs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    Yass, a historical deep dive into booty appreciation. Who knew that women were asserting their space by way of their bountiful skirts! I love learning about dress history with Abby!

    • @mirjanbouma
      @mirjanbouma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, the social distancing (to keep the men at a decent distance) was strong with some of these periods 👍🏻

  • @aoifecraddock6164
    @aoifecraddock6164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I have my pick for the next award seasons and it’s 100% the mr and mrs tape scene. What an academy award winning performance from all involved

  • @CiarnaK
    @CiarnaK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    I still want to cry at the memories of trying on literally hundreds of pairs of jeans during the low-rise period and taking home one, maybe two specimens. I had a full hourglass by 12 in 2002.

    • @AlexaFaie
      @AlexaFaie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah it was a hellish time for jeans for me which I only managed to rectify this year actually as I found somewhere which makes jeans to fit a large difference between waist and hips (I have a natural 12 inch difference & clothing most places just does not work for that). Plus I had the added difficulties of having long enough legs that standard lengths woukd be too short, but most places started their tall range at a 36" inseam & make the crotch depth longer which my short torso did not need. This is the first time since one pair I found in 2005 that I've managed to find jeans which fit at my natural waist, have enough space for my hips & thighs, are long enough, plus come in a bootcut. I dunno where bootcuts went, but they're flattering on me & I missed them. Oh and the jeans don't have any of that crappy already frayed like you've owned them for 20+ years to roll around on gravel or something.

    • @stephaniebritt1075
      @stephaniebritt1075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I happened to travel to Brazil at that time, and a friend helped me find a very curvy cut of low rise jeans easily there. They were amazing, and I wore them until they wore out!

    • @clairedryden8254
      @clairedryden8254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AlexaFaie I have a natural 12 inch difference too! What brand are you talking about? I have had, as most women have, a very long and tumultuous relationship with jeans and am always on the lookout for brands that fit how I want without alterations.

    • @foreverwander0320
      @foreverwander0320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes!!! Same experience, friend!

    • @mialemon6186
      @mialemon6186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Video a year old ? NOT A PROBLEM I GOTTA SAY MY PIECE.
      This is why I still have body issues to this day. I tried so desperately to fit in with the "heorin chic" styles but my body was already an hourglass and "full". This gave certain people in my life license to constantly remind me of my inherent ugliness because of my size and...
      We're not going back to the 2000s in this house. If we do get any worse than the skinny Jean trend, you'll catch me going full hog wearing historical clothing at Walmart because I can't find pants that fit again and I'm old enough to not try.
      Everything about that culture of the 90s/00s hurts because it made us all believe our bodies were wrong. Even if a "healthy" weight medically, you were still considered too fat and that *clearly* warranted so much cruel bullshit. (sarcasm présent)
      I'm sorry to everyone that suffered with the same shit I did, we're all beautiful and our bodies are not wrong for existing as they are. 💛

  • @TousledRedTresses
    @TousledRedTresses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Omg the fancy crochet barbie tp covers! My grandma and great grandma had these in EVERY bathroom my entire childhood XD

    • @YetAnotherJenn
      @YetAnotherJenn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not gonna lie, if I could send her one in the mail, I would totally do it. My grandmother made me make one as one of my first crochet projects ever. My dad hid a hard boiled easter egg in there one year when I was little. We found it two months later after I hunted down the weird smell in the bathroom ROFL!!

    • @indiabilly
      @indiabilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had tp cover Barbie envy because I wasn’t allowed a barbie doll and my mother thought the tp covers were tasteless- I loved them xx

  • @bigc8127
    @bigc8127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    That was really cool, especially the insight on Spanish fashion during the period. You don't hear that much about it, and it seems like they were really kind of doing their own thing.

    • @lucie4185
      @lucie4185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Poor Maria Teresa had to marry her double cousin and then get laughed at by all the sophisticated French courtiers. 🙁 also that hair!

    • @gwenallwood
      @gwenallwood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can see tons of examples in Velázquez's paintings. :)

    • @josenavau7136
      @josenavau7136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@lucie4185 The Infanta Maria Teresa adopted French fashion as soon as she married her cousin Louis XIVth. She was not laughed at by anyone except maybe that Mme de Montespan b!tch. Catherine of Braganza (infanta of the newly independent Portugal, and queen consort to Charles II of England), was indeed laughed at by English coutiers, since during her first years in England she kept wearing the "guardainfante" (the wide hoops framework showed in the "paella" mock picture, although in its Portuguese version, which was opened at the front, with one half of the outer skirt draped over the "hip", displaying a brighter, richer underskirt.

    • @josenavau7136
      @josenavau7136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gwenallwood not only Velazquez, also Murillo, Martinez del Mazo, or Carreno de Miranda

    • @missvioletnightchild2515
      @missvioletnightchild2515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      In addition to the great points above, both Maria Teresa and Catherine were part of the Habsburg dynasty, whose history is a wild ride in itself...

  • @zurinepinalandaburu4870
    @zurinepinalandaburu4870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    In Spain, those extremely big farthingales were called "guardainfante", which mean "baby store". That's because they said that they were so wide that you could hide your pregnancy (and two another kids under your skirt, in my opinion).

  • @TheAgeofFabulous
    @TheAgeofFabulous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    I am VERY glad that I was born during the era of air conditioning and internet (but not the effects AC had not the environment) but I would’ve loved it if hoop panierres (spelling) would’ve been in form during in High School. Also, who wouldn’t want to hip check your enemy in high school whilst walking down the high school when you’re walking in a human cage?! “Sorry Jenny, I didn’t mean to knock you over - it was my hoops. I swear!!” Muwahaha!

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      LOL

  • @blancatg4527
    @blancatg4527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    All the Spain comments had me floored as I'm Spanish and all those weird huge skirts are the norm in historic portraits.

  • @k_golly_g
    @k_golly_g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Ahh rolls and tolls! My brother and I have this exchange at every family dinner where rolls are present. Also, congrats on making it nearly 2/3rds of the video before you go Sir Mix A Lot. It was the first thing that came to my mind but you showed much more restraint you classy thing! Fantastic video.

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I *love* Robin Hood Men In Tights lol and thank you, as someone who used know all of Baby Got Back by heart, it was a struggle to hold it back for so long. lol

    • @laurahill9643
      @laurahill9643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rolls and tolls are required quoting at any meal with bread.

  • @jennifercourtemanche9793
    @jennifercourtemanche9793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I love both the information and the puppers' demands to be included in at least some way.

  • @MuseAndDionysus
    @MuseAndDionysus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Miss New Booty started playing and I was immediately transformed to an unspeakable time in fashion 😅😂
    Love the video!

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I really enjoyed traveling back to high school for this video, made editing a lot of fun 😂

    • @MuseAndDionysus
      @MuseAndDionysus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AbbyCox 😂 nothing like remembering the good ole days of emo band wars and full frontal side parts

  • @dezcrawford
    @dezcrawford 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I grew up in New Orleans and once worked as a hostess and tour guide in an historical setting requiring a hooped skirt. It wasfun to watch the tourists rapidly back away every time I turned toward them, as though I were a dirigible and, like the Hindenberg, might explode if static electricity raised a spark on the rug.

  • @grayfox1748
    @grayfox1748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    When I woke up this morning I didn't think I would spend half an hour learning how women covered their butts throughout history. I don't regret though

  • @missvioletnightchild2515
    @missvioletnightchild2515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Excellent cameos from Nicole and Chrissy 😂😂
    This was so cool! I've always loved bustles and crinolines, so it's fun to see the evolution things went through.
    Also, big props on finding *actually pretty* 1830s dresses. They were few and far between!

  • @KwizzyDaAwesome
    @KwizzyDaAwesome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    See, now I'm thinking of what kind of magic item a giant-ass skirt would be. Farthingale of Summon Creatures: lift skirt to summon 1d4 random creatures.

    • @chrispe82
      @chrispe82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Omg yes!!!

    • @lyreparadox
      @lyreparadox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Skirts of holding?

    • @TheFashionablyDepressedBard
      @TheFashionablyDepressedBard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      These are the questions in the crossover between my interests, that I did not know, I needed!

    • @horseenthusiast9903
      @horseenthusiast9903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well, from my experience of wearing a somewhat big skirt each day (1840s kinda shapes), my cat likes to hide under there and the pockets are so ridiculously huge that I think they're the real magical item

    • @super_siri
      @super_siri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love this thought and I'm going to pose this to my dm...

  • @persiswynter6357
    @persiswynter6357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This was great! Love that Spain was the center, even if unacknowledged, of skirt fashion! Can you imagine what Mme de Pompadour and Marie Antoinette would say if they were told the looked like SPANISH princesses FROM 100 YEARS AGO! 🤭 ... The dramatic recreation was a tour-de-force of cinematic excellence. ... Hi Gryff and Subi!

    • @MrSludov
      @MrSludov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It woudn´t be such a surprise for them, since Louis XIV mother, Ana, and wife, María Teresa, were from Spain, his grandfather, Felipe Iii, his uncle, Felipe IV, his first cousin and brother in law, Carlos II, and his grandson., Felipe V, kings of Spain, and Infanta Carlota Joaquina Daufine in waiting... till 7 Years war... but thats another story.

  • @jennyormrod2288
    @jennyormrod2288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I love your historical deep dive videos! I always feel like I've gained wonderful knowledge after them!
    I have to say as a woman with not much 'fulness' back there I'm slightly seriously considering bringing back the bustle pad!
    The late 90's and early 2000's were rough for my body confidence but I've recently decided that I don't care what people think, I'm gonna wear whatever I flaming well want to!
    Thank you for your videos. I love them so much!

    • @katherinemorelle7115
      @katherinemorelle7115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I made myself a bum pad that is great for both an understated 1780s and late Victorian looks. Highly recommend. I’m naturally very top heavy, so having a bit of extra floof to balance that out makes me feel very good.

    • @rdb4996
      @rdb4996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I do have 'fulness' back there and let me tell you that it comes with its own inconveniences. Even when your body shape is in fashion, you probably still do not fit the ideal/clothes. So forget about what fashion/society/media/whatever tell you! It's your body, the shape will probably never drastically change and the ideals are unrealistic anyway. You do you!

    • @trinamorrison2570
      @trinamorrison2570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rdb4996 can definitely second this. I've started buying pants from Goodwill and other second hand stores because I can try on 20 pairs from different brands and find 1-2 that don't gap at the back of the waist.

    • @lyreparadox
      @lyreparadox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trinamorrison2570 I do the exact same thing. I tried buying work pants at a regular department store and couldn't find anything because all the styles were sized to exactly the same wrong measurements. Anymore, I buy things that fit my thighs, and then add my own seam to fit my butt and waist.

  • @annasilvertongue
    @annasilvertongue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    8:04 -- Love it whenever anyone references this movie; Men in Tights is my favorite of all time

  • @brbrbrbreannad3610
    @brbrbrbreannad3610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Geez, Spain’s hips were wider than their empire

  • @cinemaocd1752
    @cinemaocd1752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love the idea that women just pumped up the size of their skirts to keep creepy men at further than arm's length. This was delightfully silly and I still learned something.

  • @studious_nonchalance
    @studious_nonchalance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It's funny how MOST of the 20th century fashions were unkind to those of us whose natural body shapes were more in line with the late 19th century ideal. The 1990s waif craze wasn't great for my body image. Neither were jeans.

  • @CottageTales
    @CottageTales 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I can second your ASSessment of the 90s, it WAS bad!
    Also love the husband and wife scene 🤣

  • @khills
    @khills 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Ok, but can you MAKE a video about the discomfort men had about women taking up space, and those power gains? Because that sounds fascinating, and while I am totally having my library send me Bendall's paper, you obviously know a lot more about it than I do or will be able to read in a few weeks, and honestly? NEVER occurred to me that the space-taking was any sort of intentional declaration of existence in public spaces.

    • @sarahb4401
      @sarahb4401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sarah has a book coming out with Bloomsbury later this year! Her Instagram is sarahbendall_fashionhistory ☺️ (but I’d love to see this video too!)

    • @khills
      @khills 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sarahb4401 Thank you!

    • @brandielee7971
      @brandielee7971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wonder if this kind of historical upset by women taken up space bleeds into the modern complaints about it as well

  • @DelightingalePlays
    @DelightingalePlays 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Oh thank you for the slow motion replay of the smack. I'M DYING!

  • @megmeg5656
    @megmeg5656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    AS SPANISH KILLED ME "HOLD MY CERVEZA" HAHAHAHA love it😍🤣

    • @woxter100
      @woxter100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Verdad que si? Jajaja

    • @megmeg5656
      @megmeg5656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@woxter100 me ha encantado escucharla decir palabras en español😭

    • @nikkifennel
      @nikkifennel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Y lo del meme de la infanta no te ha recordado al "Velaske, yo soi guapa?" Jajaja

    • @woxter100
      @woxter100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nikkifennel totalmente 😂😂

    • @elenac4654
      @elenac4654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@woxter100 jajajaja ya lo creo!

  • @MossyMozart
    @MossyMozart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My goodness, she speaks with enthusiasm. I even checked to see if the playback was speeded up!

  • @kayceevallozzi
    @kayceevallozzi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The amount of research that you put into these videos is just...beautiful.

  • @syedmazharhasan6803
    @syedmazharhasan6803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    For me, the Golden Age of Buttocks is The First and Second Bustle eras of Victorian fashions. Those things were MASSIVE.

  • @DFarbklecks
    @DFarbklecks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    oh subtitles can be glorious. "The pungent application of his aunt" "Robella Francais"

  • @marikotrue3488
    @marikotrue3488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the thumbnail descriptions. Makes fashion history even more fun to watch. The sly comments like the one concerning societal norms of the 1950s, are 50% of why I watch this channel, well maybe 95%. Thank you to Abby Cox for doing SO much research on posterior accessories and non-surgical options. Secretly, shhh, I do wish I was not the possessor of the unremovable model 😉

  • @LupineDawn
    @LupineDawn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ever since I started wearing more historically based clothing I found myself more conscious of the space that I was taking up in my skirts. I was so used to pushing myself into smaller spaces to minimize my space usage. Now I am just standing here going nope look at my skirts I sewed these myself you can back up three more inches to not step on it, because if you tear my hem I’ll lose my mind.

  • @robinhahnsopran
    @robinhahnsopran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is it. This is the best thumbnail on TH-cam.

  • @3bellam
    @3bellam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the Mr. Tape segment very much gave off drunk history vibes

  • @BanazirGalpsi1968
    @BanazirGalpsi1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Also, hoop skirts encourage social distance right?

    • @BanazirGalpsi1968
      @BanazirGalpsi1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Likewise farthindales and bumrolls and so forth.....

  • @sarahkelly4026
    @sarahkelly4026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Who knew fashion history could be so entertaining? Thanks, Abby!

  • @lisa8a8e
    @lisa8a8e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    omg. Robin Hood: Men in Tights reference... I've been waiting for this my whole life😂

  • @aurorapapillon4883
    @aurorapapillon4883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm obsessed with Snoods so whenever I see the hair nets in the fashion plates and art, i get totally distracted taking note how they've styled it 😂

  • @Sowindiee10
    @Sowindiee10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Oh god, the Monty Python edit was so good. More drunk history-esque moments pleaaassseeee.

  • @marimba26
    @marimba26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Hahaha, this is even better than Boobs was! And now, thanks to Boobs, my husband is watching these with me. He will probably deny it but he seems to magically appear when he hears me watching lol. Perfect music choices btw. 😍

  • @Fenrisaconite
    @Fenrisaconite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I was half-heartedly hoping you would briefly touch on the more modern use of pettitocats and hoops. Namely the resurrection of them in lolita fashion. Their are interesting trends of rising and falling lengths and shapes. For a while, it was it was a thing to have a cage hoop that was visible through your skirt (though a rising gap in the front), or even worn OVER the skirts. Certain styles of the fashion tend (such as Classical Lolita) tend to favour longer petticoats, or lolita A-line petticoats, whereas Sweet Lolita overwhelmingly has a preference for a very full cupcake shape.
    I suppose that this was more of a butt-centric video though, and not really focused on niche trends in alternative fashions, so I understand.

    • @talithacrow7530
      @talithacrow7530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Steampunk also used visible hoopskirts

    • @brandielee7971
      @brandielee7971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I need a video about this by someone. Stat.

  • @Valscorn01
    @Valscorn01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a man, I don’t have clue as to how I found this video, or your channel but this is actually pretty damn interesting.

  • @toganium4175
    @toganium4175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how this video is actually taken seriously. Other content creators would probably meme this topic.

  • @sarah-phillips
    @sarah-phillips 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This thumbnail is one of the many reasons why I subscribed to this channel.

  • @ceanothussoapary5998
    @ceanothussoapary5998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was great to have all three of you in a video! You will cause me to fall down a rabbit hole since I droooled at the ladies in Gainsborough and Reynolds portraits as a child, only to be told the artists made the ladies remove their panniers with the picture of the Infanta provided as the actual historical appearance. It killed my dress up from history Halloween streak. Now you have me wondering about that....Thank you for a great video and doggy interludes.

  • @annikamin6914
    @annikamin6914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Incredibly informative AND entertaining - these videos are so much fun. Love the music choices and pooch interruptions. So much research obviously went into this!

  • @terrichicosky3166
    @terrichicosky3166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Three minutes in and you were speaking directly to my Libra indecision 😂

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I see you and I acknowledge you. 😂

    • @stevezytveld6585
      @stevezytveld6585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AbbyCox Or as Libra me and Libra Mister Husband are wont to say "Whadda you wanna do?"; "Idunno wadda you wanna do?". Wash. Repeat almost endlessly.
      - Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown

    • @maudline
      @maudline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Libra moon here as well!

  • @HosCreates
    @HosCreates 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let's bring back faux butts back! Oh wait we did with shape wear 😆 . I'm in love the 1950's fuller skirts with a petti because it makes it look like I'm balanced in the hip to bum ratio and the bum look fuller.

  • @Rozewolf
    @Rozewolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Cork Rumps". Bwahahah! The visual of a flotation devise that doubled as a bum roll was great. This video was a hoot! Thank you for such a 'bummer' of an addition to hysterical, um...historical dress.

  • @woxter100
    @woxter100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "Hold my cerveza", I almost choked hahahaha. Spain is diferent 😂😂

  • @emily94762
    @emily94762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If there is one thing I have learned from your videos, its that men have never not made fun and belittled women's fashion

  • @hannahbradshaw2186
    @hannahbradshaw2186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh wow, Sarah was my university tutor one semester at the University of Sydney many years ago, before she completed her PhD. Go Sarah!

  • @alexandriamcghie7630
    @alexandriamcghie7630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    you make fashion history so fun. please, more!

  • @commodorezelda
    @commodorezelda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This just intensifies my desires for all the hooped and bustled skirts! I wonder how my dogs would react...

    • @josenavau7136
      @josenavau7136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Despite of me being a boy, since hooped skirt frameworks are one of my biggest obsessions, I made myself one mockup farthingale or crinoline with a big wire hoop and a couple of blankets. I must tell you, as soon as you wear it, you can feel your Ego boost!! I had a puppy back then, which got literally crazy with it, trying to climb on it, bite it, or hide inside

    • @katherinemorelle7115
      @katherinemorelle7115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I can’t speak for dogs, but my cat loves hiding in under my skirts!

    • @Textile_Courtesan
      @Textile_Courtesan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My puppies were not well trained saying it mildly and they would get sooo confused. They'd stand up to put their little paws on my legs but then my farthingale (I was on court for the local renaissance fest at the time) would shift under their weight and they would slide right off. Never got to try it with a Victorian hoop skirt, they tend to have a panel on the rump to keep it from shifting.

    • @docholliday1882
      @docholliday1882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@katherinemorelle7115 Same here. Both my cat & rabbit like to hide under my skirts, and the cat likes to play with my corset laces.

    • @docholliday1882
      @docholliday1882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@josenavau7136 I'm also a guy. I'd like to make myself some bustle cages. I felt that same ego boost after I broke in my first corset, lol. Wasn't expecting it.

  • @auntmaggiesattic
    @auntmaggiesattic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bell bottoms were actually originally made for sailors not female fashion. The United States Navy was still using bell bottom dungarees till 1998. Then decided to phase them out. They were very utilitarian.

  • @melimsah
    @melimsah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Back back naughty zoot!" made me laugh so hard it scared my cat. You, my dear, have exactly my sense of humor, and that's why I love your videos lol

  • @elizabethnewell3133
    @elizabethnewell3133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder if the cork rump was made of ground cork. It would be very light and also firm. The (satyrical?) bit about the ladies being saved from drowning reminds me that cork used to be used to make early life ‘belts’, so maybe people were already stuffing tubes of fabric with bits of cork so it wasn’t too far from that to adapting it a little for fashion?

  • @Ellaodi
    @Ellaodi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The music and references are so great, I am living for this video.

  • @monical.3892
    @monical.3892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Waiting for drunk history to call you up!!
    Virgo sun/Taurus moon here! And I'm loving your history video series and that they are all in chronological order

  • @melissaroscher1080
    @melissaroscher1080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how you just roll with the happenings around you. Some TH-camrs don't have to be so formal

  • @brianawhatley7119
    @brianawhatley7119 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you a million bajillion for your detailed list of sources. I'm a teacher and love incorporating fashion history. You've just made finding pictures so much easier!

  • @TheSharpenedPencil
    @TheSharpenedPencil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You're so funny! I loved the sketch with Nicole and your jokes and the music. This is so interesting. Thank you for putting in the time to do all that research and then present it to us in such an engaging way!

  • @bruh666
    @bruh666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love how many historical paintings you show, it really (literally) paints a picture! I'm really interested in historical dress but when I read about it I find it hard to picture so this is so helpful

  • @afrost2778
    @afrost2778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Y’all had way too much fun with the spanking, made my day

  • @BBeeeeeee
    @BBeeeeeee ปีที่แล้ว

    Very entertaining, and as someone who wears petticoats in their alternative fashion, intriguing! I have 3 that are just layers of fabric, one of them is 5 layers of voile that I absolutely love. It's soft, warm but breezy when I move, and like having a lil comfort blanket around my legs. I also have a hoop skirt that goes to a little bit above my ankles for the single long dress that I have only recently purchased. It took me 2 years into getting into this alternative Japanese fashion to get a floor-length (called "tea-length", and less common than those that end at the knee) because I loathe long dresses. I always step on the hem, no matter which way I am going. But with the hoop skirt, it keeps the hem of the dress slightly raised and constantly away from my feet so that I'm not stepping on it, even if I bend over and move! It makes me feel like I'm floating along and, because it's just hoops with a layer or two of frilly fabric to cover it, it's fairly light weight and cool as well.
    Dresses in this fashion tend to be given names. Recently one was released that would be translated into "Bustle dress". But because this is Japan, and they love to use random french phrases, they called it "Cul de paris". The literal translation is, well, @$$ of paris. But apparently this is a German term to refer to the bustles that were so popular in France in the 1700s and 1800s I think? Not many english sources that google readily shows. Still makes me giggle whenever I see that word

  • @underthebluesky92
    @underthebluesky92 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You could hide small children under those supper wide skirts, as to the very tight pants, wow, so glad some of these fashions are history. Thank you for the fun fashion history.

  • @hsama
    @hsama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like making iberian clothing because of my heritage and I've been using 4m just eyeballing the paintings and I it's nice to see that there's written evidence. 😍😍😍😍

  • @bruh666
    @bruh666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    second bustle era is def my favorite, I love the tailored and more angular look especially with that assymetrical overskirt draping, without all that over the top ruffle detail of 1870s dresses

  • @twobluestripes
    @twobluestripes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love it when you struggle not to laugh at your own jokes and keep a straight face to continue the line 😂 hilarious

  • @agimagi2158
    @agimagi2158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I thought I could not love this video more. Them Mr. Tape popped up!

  • @heather3021
    @heather3021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As always Abby, I thoroughly enjoyed this lesson of yours, constantly chuckling and throwing out "no she didn't with that pun". Also absolutely sublime reenactment, I assume they studied at the actor's studio. Encore I say.

  • @tiamatmichellehart6821
    @tiamatmichellehart6821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The turn-of-the-1880s natural narrow-skirted look was really short-lived...until the craziness of the 20th Century! I'm mildly surprised there was no mention of the *hobble skirt* of the early 1910s; it was even more short-lived but influential on the enduring pencil skirt which has lasted ever since, and like the crinoline its original concept was invented by a woman!

  • @beccitatefitzjohn7804
    @beccitatefitzjohn7804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Shoemakers Holiday! One of my favourite early modern plays. Such strong chaotic energy

  • @blackcatsandunicorns7594
    @blackcatsandunicorns7594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Perhaps we should bring back some of these things. We could have built in social distancing, a way to assert spatial ownership, and regain the glory of spacious, fashionable, wearable pockets.

  • @BelleChanson0717
    @BelleChanson0717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I discovered the joy of using the cage crinoline to enforce personal space boundaries when I started cosplaying as Belle...even on a crowded convention center floor, I always had plenty of space because of my hoops! In my everyday life, I use net petticoats for similar effect.

  • @rebeccacuthbertson1271
    @rebeccacuthbertson1271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Abby this is too funny and too on point. And had the most perfect use of Monty Python skit clips ever. Thank you for this educational and hilarious piece of content.

  • @StephanieCanada
    @StephanieCanada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh yeah, those low rise jeans gave me SERIOUS body issues that I am still overcoming today. Another amazingly researched video!

  • @americanviking9384
    @americanviking9384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mr. and Mrs. Tape should have their own channel. Who doesn't like good ol' cheeky humor 😏

  • @catherinerw1
    @catherinerw1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As sonmeone with a built-in bustle... bring back at least part of the 1880-90s styles!!! (Maybe not the need for corsetry though?!)
    Great video :)

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      But the corset is what makes it all *chefs kiss* 😂

    • @kenna176
      @kenna176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I don't know, I prefer having the weight of my upper shelf carried by a corset rather than my shoulders.

    • @catherinerw1
      @catherinerw1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kenna176 I'm blessed/cursed with an A-cup, so upper-body support is less of an issue....

    • @annapruitt5546
      @annapruitt5546 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why not corsetry though? What’s the problem with corsets?

    • @lizcademy4809
      @lizcademy4809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed ... I snorted a bit when Abby mentioned "the fashionable 10-12" waist to hip difference" as that's what I have naturally.
      Though I need the corsetry, not for waist suppression but for support. [H cup.]

  • @CyclingM1867
    @CyclingM1867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just signed up for Likewise, thanks to you. Lots of good selections there. 🙂
    Hello to your dog as well.
    Your videos are quite entertaining & educational. Thanks for them!

  • @dthoward2011
    @dthoward2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent overview. The 1830 “bustle” is always overlooked. The old cover of corsets and crinolines have a beautiful image of one.

  • @theunprofessionallurker
    @theunprofessionallurker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir Mix-a-Lot would be so proud you completed the series.

  • @ameliathomas7050
    @ameliathomas7050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was watching an Abby Cox video, and then suddenly it was Drunk History. So amazing!

  • @k4r4k0
    @k4r4k0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This makes me very curious to see the differences between continents when it comes to women in same space with men 🤔 I have it hard to believe that continents such as Africa or Asia had the identical mindset to this topic?

  • @littlemissmel88
    @littlemissmel88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos give me life! Thank you for all this reseach and sassy-ness happening in this video! Also music is *Chef's Kiss

  • @DezMarivette
    @DezMarivette 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We have been blessed with a bootylicious week! Thank you SO much for all the research you put into this! It was absolutely amazing! Also props to Spain for their OG fashions!

  • @earlelzy7243
    @earlelzy7243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so fascinated by your content and the way you present it. I just wanted to learn how to sew basics.