How Quickly Can I Beat a Professional Shogi Master??

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  • @ikkue
    @ikkue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    If you are still confused about how it works, I really recommend watching the original VOD, because Karolina explained it really nicely. The editing on this might be too fast-paced if you actually wanna learn Shogi. I know because I watched the VOD before this video even came out

    • @kaldogorath
      @kaldogorath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      For me the biggest difficulty is keeping track of the pieces. I can't read kanji so it's all just noise, and it's hard to get the meanings to stick

    • @sinom
      @sinom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@kaldogorath most online tools also have alternative symbols for the pieces. They either replace them with the letter the English translation of the piece begins with, or a symbol representing how the piece can move.
      Though I'd say that after playing a few games you should be able to recognise the pieces.
      Like when playing a new card game it will also take a few games before you memorised what winning hands are. It takes a bit of time but is doable

    • @VAL3NTIN3
      @VAL3NTIN3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What is a VOD? And where can I find it?

    • @spiffinz
      @spiffinz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VAL3NTIN3 prob some nerd shit who cares

  • @sandilemlambo5701
    @sandilemlambo5701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +432

    Joey got me into Mahjong, and now I am about to get into Shogi because of you. Thanks a lot mate, now I have more to do with my free time and keep up the great work

    • @DrJustininJapan
      @DrJustininJapan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      😂 this is your goal for 2022!!

    • @zilongma5067
      @zilongma5067 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, I'm not Joey obviously but if I think you should give GO a try if you like those games.

    • @cabbage_cat
      @cabbage_cat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

    • @sick0fthis
      @sick0fthis ปีที่แล้ว

      I got into Kaiji which in turn got me into Akagi and now I play mahjong every day

    • @tovarishchfeixiao
      @tovarishchfeixiao ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zilongma5067 Yup, Go is really a very good game.

  • @aioiyuuko
    @aioiyuuko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +976

    Editor clearly needs a raise

    • @sulaygonzaga2728
      @sulaygonzaga2728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      yeah the editing is very very good

    • @kaldogorath
      @kaldogorath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Pee?

    • @ishitachhabra5072
      @ishitachhabra5072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ig its joey himself

    • @kazeku3704
      @kazeku3704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @Nadea true mudan a goat but he does overedit sometimes

    • @TigerBud
      @TigerBud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Nadea a tad yeah

  • @FrenchDinosaur
    @FrenchDinosaur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    The 2 hardest things for me to learn in shogi was:
    1. The drop mechanic, because I often forget about my captured pieces.
    2. That satisfying tap sound you hear when watching professionals play. I don't even know how many times I accidentally hurt my finger by trying to imitate that. I can do it now tho.

    • @slightlybored
      @slightlybored 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      the tap is the hardest part of playing this game

  • @HypnoGenX
    @HypnoGenX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Been dying to see western-friendly coverage on shogi. After learning it I've found it massively more enjoyable and exciting than chess. Trash Taste shogi tournament onegaishimasu.

    • @Crustee0
      @Crustee0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What bot do you train with? I find the mobile app shogi have either too easy or too hard bot.

    • @HypnoGenX
      @HypnoGenX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Crustee0 Yep, that's a big issue. Using Kanazawa Shogi 2, and the bot is brutal. Like 300 difficulty settings and it starts at Murder. :-P

    • @tovarishchfeixiao
      @tovarishchfeixiao ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HypnoGenX Then i guess the 300th difficulty is maybe 3million tsar bombs dropped down at once?

  • @azurecomet86
    @azurecomet86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Need more shogi content like this please. Would love to see your progress and quest to beat the master.

  • @greedymetal6743
    @greedymetal6743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Didn't expect Karolina here. Greetings from Poland

  • @YeYe-wz1wi
    @YeYe-wz1wi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    More mahjong and shogi please 👍👍👍

  • @FyreMagyk67
    @FyreMagyk67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Your editor, Joey, is top notch. You better hold onto them for dear life because they are damn good, but you knew that last part.
    DON'T LET GO!

    • @DrJustininJapan
      @DrJustininJapan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YEAH!! the editing was insanely good for this video 😮

    • @koksu5692
      @koksu5692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      love the editing

  • @Riku-Leela
    @Riku-Leela 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Watching shogi as a chess player I can say that placement of stolen pieces is fkn insane

    • @mlee5366
      @mlee5366 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it is possible to do this with bughouse

  • @acemaison2834
    @acemaison2834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Shogi is like checkers & chess’s genius offspring and it’s very interesting ngl

  • @frowndere6597
    @frowndere6597 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Joey does anything random.
    Sensei: so this is an actual strategy.

  • @cameronburnett9679
    @cameronburnett9679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Joey is getting people into Shogi but got me out of it. I tried to learn it after watching 3月のライオン (March comes in like a lion) then I saw him playing chess and thought "fuck it, I'll start with something easier".

    • @Gummylongtail
      @Gummylongtail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I didn't give a flying fuck about shogi but damn was the rest of 3gatsu no lion one of the best things i've ever watched

    • @QWERTY-gp8fd
      @QWERTY-gp8fd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gummylongtail so u do give flying fuck about shogi

  • @EvaFuji
    @EvaFuji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    How interesting I finished watching sangatsu no lion and I'm currently reading the manga then this shows up 🧐

    • @enjoyereheheh
      @enjoyereheheh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So how many times did you cry ?

    • @EvaFuji
      @EvaFuji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@enjoyereheheh zero I always smiled at the emotional scenes they were so beautiful but in the first episodes I teared up a bit when I saw Rei it was really depressing

    • @acemaison2834
      @acemaison2834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coincidence I think NOT :0

    • @yugao2
      @yugao2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EvaFuji Hina will always be the sunshine for rei

    • @enjoyereheheh
      @enjoyereheheh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EvaFuji
      th-cam.com/video/k883Jw6jhXw/w-d-xo.html
      every time i heard this sound, i was like
      Ah shit here we go again
      Tears dropped
      Fart was farted
      and pants was shitted

  • @HOPE-ym3nj
    @HOPE-ym3nj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    My Sangatsu no Lion heart is so happy to see shogi content, I have tried to learn as a result of it…

    • @smoggert
      @smoggert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same, I even bought a Shogi board as souvenir when visiting Japan because of it ! Still in the "tried" to learn phase though :D

    • @zenko3906
      @zenko3906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      and my hifumi togo energy is rubbing off

  • @katalysis
    @katalysis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Imagine trying to beat your chess teacher in a couple of hours of playing but your starting lesson is learning how the pieces move. That's Joey.

  • @heliokester8164
    @heliokester8164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your Sensei was really funny and swag, Joey! Would love to see you play Shogi again :D

  • @ariespics
    @ariespics 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hell yeah! I've been waiting for this for so long since the Tournament Arc in Trash Taste

  • @splnter648
    @splnter648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah didn’t expect there for Karo to be here. Good to know she’s been able to cooperate with content creator to spread the joy of shogi

  • @p_a_t_h6237
    @p_a_t_h6237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Joey doesn't like chess that much so he wasn't playing in the chess tournament.
    Joey proceeds to learn Shogi aka Chess on crack.

  • @joshuaxiong8377
    @joshuaxiong8377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That spawn mechanic is nuts.
    It's starting to feel like a Protoss mirror match in StarCraft.

  • @Grace_0128
    @Grace_0128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    lol she learned it through naruto I learned it through watching "March comes in like a lion" a shogi based anime its actually good if anyone wants to watch!

  • @摂理の空白
    @摂理の空白 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I found lishogi several months ago and I've been playing shogi daily. Its hella fun

  • @lunaakuma5044
    @lunaakuma5044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love how the most professional Shogi player is... Polish based off of her name and her accent. That gives me some National pride

    • @Crustee0
      @Crustee0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Iirc he at the very top of shogi world, but still a really good and i think even pro level player. But for international/english shogi content? Yes she is really good compared to other youtuber. Theres this other youtuber that i used as reference to learn the rule a bit more in depth, but he is japanese so sometimes its a bit hard to understand what he says.

    • @nosami5268
      @nosami5268 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed, Karolina Styczińska is Polish and she's an absolute unique person.
      This video is just a show to promote Shogi (this man will never win against a real Shogi professional 😊).
      The world of Shogi is difficult to enter and even harder to stay in. All professional Shogi players are employees of the Japanese Shogi Association. There are certain age barriers and the selection is brutal, players must leave if they don't make the expected progress. Women are professionals in the sense that they are employees and paid for their playing, but they have their own league system.
      Apart from that, there is an open league system (for men AND women) with 9 master classes, and in Japan only the players of the highest 5 classes are considered as the "real professionals".
      As far as I know, there was never a female player such highly ranked, and as far as I know Karolina is the only non Japanese person that became a woman's professional. 😮
      This game is still too Japanese. I live in the second largest city in Germany and even here there is no Shogi club (I learned Chess in 1964 and prefer to play against "real" people. 🧙‍♂️)
      👍🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @ZainAK283
    @ZainAK283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would LOVE to see more shogi stuff in the future!

  • @shafo827
    @shafo827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't really understand much but all i knew was how good and funny Joey's editor is

  • @pedrostormrage
    @pedrostormrage ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:36 "Wait, you learned (about) Shogi through Naruto?" "Yeah" "Well, then" You can hear the disappointment in Joey's voice 😂

  • @BastardOfTheNorth
    @BastardOfTheNorth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey son,
    Just wanted to say I'm really enjoying this new content. Keep up the good work,sport

  • @m_choppy6463
    @m_choppy6463 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who ever is editing the video congrats. You are the meme lord

  • @hachirou.sensei
    @hachirou.sensei 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started watching 3-Gatsu no Lion a few days ago and Joey uploads this video.

  • @yuumi4871
    @yuumi4871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The editing in this video is top notch

  • @WCA113
    @WCA113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    😮Best of luck with your main channel.
    Happy new year🎉

  • @SaturoAnni
    @SaturoAnni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was really nice and interesting 👀 and she explains so good xD

  • @kiraotic6489
    @kiraotic6489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this video has more editing effects than any of joey's main channel videos

  • @fanach
    @fanach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    march comes like a lion flashback

  • @rsnraven4407
    @rsnraven4407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now, this. This is the kind of content..like, typically you. Nice work, Joey. Not gonna try this though, I AM afraid I'd lose my touch in regular chess after looking at this for a while 😁

  • @mephiles5073
    @mephiles5073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg a polish girl on your channel Joey. I am so happy ❤️

  • @sinom
    @sinom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An English shogi video! Nice.

  • @LynnGryphon
    @LynnGryphon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was actually pretty cool. I only vaguely knew shogi from anime - I had no idea it was so similar to chess

  • @OneFinalAutumn
    @OneFinalAutumn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The only way to beat a master is by draining their mental stamina and driving them to insanity.

    • @fernplant6816
      @fernplant6816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is exactly how my first chess match against a friend who knew way more about chess than me (they knew strategies and traps, I was still learning how the pieces moved). Basically since I had no clue what traps were, I was inadvertently avoiding every trap she put down without thinking (I think it was just luck). I was also an asshole and I would move my pieces back and forth from one position back to the previous if I didn’t know what to do. She basically was so flabbergasted by my shit techniques that ended up working.
      Edit: I do know more about chess now and I’m not an asshole when I play

    • @auscluff
      @auscluff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just shuffling your pieces around when you don't know what to do can be pretty powerful in chess

    • @Crustee0
      @Crustee0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only works if the "master" u speak about is just slightly above beginner level haha. For appropriately skillful player they will either crush you immediately or just handicap themselves to help you learn

  • @jessicabunbun620
    @jessicabunbun620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idk if anyone will ever read this, but there are a few Shogi worlds in vrchat. You can drag your friends there and teach them how the pieces move, and the chaos begins from there xD

  • @slash5235
    @slash5235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to see more Shogi, I started getting in to it because of Yakuza Kiwami got quite good by following guides, but it kind of reminds me of playing fighting games, once you take a long break you have to relearn it again.

  • @sotongsaito9825
    @sotongsaito9825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Joey play SHOGI with Karolina styczynska.

  • @emolawolf
    @emolawolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg, someone from Poland on Joey's Channel! :O

  • @sondres.8021
    @sondres.8021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember I watched a series on youtube about shogi with like 50 episodes from, idk, before 2010.. so that's how I learned it

    • @davidmella1174
      @davidmella1174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was it from Hidetchi? I think that's the one. It may be old but it's still one of the best. That's actually where I learned shogi myself.

  • @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
    @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm calling this "January Comes in Like a Lion".

  • @Pepsiisgood
    @Pepsiisgood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now i can finally understand Soredemo Ayumu wa Yosetekuru a little more now

    • @DrJustininJapan
      @DrJustininJapan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      exactly what i was thinking too!!

    • @sediew
      @sediew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Finally someone mentions it. Now I can understand why Ayumu can’t beat senpai

  • @mkly0126
    @mkly0126 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this vid so much! You should try learning Go lol

  • @bismarcksenpai7782
    @bismarcksenpai7782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need more shogi content from this guy istg.

  • @dmurray1031
    @dmurray1031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This will really help with those Yakuza completion lists

  • @MrLetsmakeachange
    @MrLetsmakeachange 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Joey should have pulled the climbing silver on her, that would have worked. Certainly worked for Asuna.

  • @shoyusuki8687
    @shoyusuki8687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk whats wrong with me but I really enjoy this kind of editing where it just spams random overused memes

  • @Dappis
    @Dappis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She's literally a irl manga character, did some googling and the backstory is fascinating.

  • @jsrodman
    @jsrodman ปีที่แล้ว

    Karolina Styczyńska is a great teacher. Ive seen an interview of her before but not so much of the game.

  • @milandutta1995skid
    @milandutta1995skid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy New year joey

  • @tobilobabodede6526
    @tobilobabodede6526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Shogi Man

  • @dekametr
    @dekametr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BTW there is short anime about her: Susume, Karolina !

  • @koagzero
    @koagzero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The editing is offensive to my brain. I like it.

  • @mikawa1314
    @mikawa1314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hope you can give Go/Baduk a go someday (sorry about the pun). It’s a very easy game to get into (but very hard to master)

    • @DrJustininJapan
      @DrJustininJapan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, i never realized how complicated this game is till now!!

    • @StrategicGamesEtc
      @StrategicGamesEtc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love to watch that. :D

  • @adivevizar
    @adivevizar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Editing is fire🔥

  • @unsuspecting_man
    @unsuspecting_man 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the Mahjong stream

  • @gongaga
    @gongaga 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The editing on this video is clean af, did mudan edit it?

  • @AmatsukiHussain
    @AmatsukiHussain 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I too picked up interest in Shogi from Naruto, and i actually began playing it because of March Comes in Like a Lion

  • @rizer6418
    @rizer6418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sangatsu no lion vibes~

  • @shogibyvictortree5028
    @shogibyvictortree5028 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @fireonyou4503
    @fireonyou4503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ngl that joey channel picture is fire af
    thanks jeffs broad

  • @atakoranodonbrachiosaurus1209
    @atakoranodonbrachiosaurus1209 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    recently tried it out for the first time as well, this was some enjoyable repetition

  • @johkonut
    @johkonut ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, this is so cool! Can you play Go next?

  • @aki_4191
    @aki_4191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I knew that Joey will one day get into Shogi cause Sangatsu no lion

  • @lupinajefferson6337
    @lupinajefferson6337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Still. Nobody can beat Veldora,when it comes to shogi

  • @astraios69420
    @astraios69420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started march comes in like a lion today and get this recommended. Joey is on spot

  • @jin_8158
    @jin_8158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joey playing my favorite board game lessgo!!

  • @jamaalbourne1659
    @jamaalbourne1659 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these anime man videos!

  • @AricShadowDragon
    @AricShadowDragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda want to play this after watching this XD Anyways keep up the amazing videos Joey

  • @kyuri8353
    @kyuri8353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it just me or this video is more dank edited than usual?

  • @kintreveis1019
    @kintreveis1019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like that Joey's really getting into the cultural games of Japan. So many great games. Is Go up next?

    • @Marnige
      @Marnige 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hyakunin Isshu karuta

  • @jacobdrolet4262
    @jacobdrolet4262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing and looks totally fun to play too.

  • @isfearok
    @isfearok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was dope and helpful

  • @MachKaiko
    @MachKaiko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow now I can get those platinum trophies in Yakuza games!!.....or not! Great content & editing!

  • @richardthornton3527
    @richardthornton3527 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love shogi glad to see you play

  • @horushyperion76
    @horushyperion76 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I going to beat you in three moves"
    Shogi Harbour Villain Arc confirmed

  • @jamesporter2542
    @jamesporter2542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:04 Man, how difficult is it to get a chess set image where the pieces are set up correctly - QUEEN on COLOUR guys
    Great video Joey

    • @ondatracze4582
      @ondatracze4582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wtf the Queens Are not even in the same lane between White And black

    • @jamesporter2542
      @jamesporter2542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ondatracze4582 The black pieces are set up correctly but not white - It's funny/pathetic actually how often I see chess sets in store that are set up wrong

  • @justinschultz8539
    @justinschultz8539 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video ! What shogi computer program are you using?

  • @h-mancole900
    @h-mancole900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    when watching 3gatsu no lion i had no idea wtf was going on most the time. I just knew the pieces were moving in spots

  • @kamui5579
    @kamui5579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:18 anyone know where that sound effect is from?

  • @sideswipe9512
    @sideswipe9512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please more videos like this!

  • @joshuaroberts5311
    @joshuaroberts5311 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is unrelated, but look up oath of the goat by ill bill and vinnie paz, the reason I say this is because they sampled the theme song from higurashi on that track.

  • @davidmella1174
    @davidmella1174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:03 It's "fourth file rook"

  • @YattyAMV
    @YattyAMV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    somehow 9 minutes of this video taught me more than entire two seasons of sangatsu no lion

  • @Nairod2
    @Nairod2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Q_Q I can see the future, joey will end up having to kill sensei with a forbiden movement to get the ultimate technique then an older kohai will hunt joey and avenge sensei xD and it will be only 2 seasons of 12 episodes. n_n

  • @anthonyabad4734
    @anthonyabad4734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even having an entire army against one piece I would still not feel safe playing against her

  • @offsetsface2135
    @offsetsface2135 ปีที่แล้ว

    The persona layout is epic

  • @delix787
    @delix787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I immediately thought of Shikamaru! 💀

  • @markco_3419
    @markco_3419 ปีที่แล้ว

    He sacrifice...the ROOOOOOOOOOKKKKKK
    What a brilliant move

  • @beforeafter9878
    @beforeafter9878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need this lesson to play shongi in yakuza kiwami

  • @JsonCh.
    @JsonCh. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eyyyyyyyyy thank god
    you finally tried shogi
    I love shogi and too bad none of my friends plays it.

  • @Wolfedge75
    @Wolfedge75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So...
    when can we expect Tournament Arc 3 (ft. Shogi)?

  • @pehpehkia
    @pehpehkia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She has some persona 5 Hifumi vibe going there.

  • @geddees
    @geddees 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good content. 👍

  • @xanderclock7647
    @xanderclock7647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was watching 3 gatsu and lion right now then the notification popped up I was like damn just at time