Could Strategic Bombers Be Used For CHEAP Precision Stand-Off Mass Strike? (WarGames 140) | DCS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2024
- We investigate whether large ageing US strategic bombers can be used to deliver cheap stand-off precision strike missions.
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Keep up the awesome work man. Can you do a video where the Patriots system has to defend against hypersonics? I know what will happen in real life I'm just curious what will happen in the sim. Thanks 👍
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@@grimreapers What scenario would show how Ukraine could best use 40 F-18s? Sounds like US greenlighted Australia transferring them. No idea what model they are.
Best use of Hornets or Super Hornets would be dispersed in the East and South of Ukraine, operating from rough, damaged, or austere airfields with their reinforced frames and strong gear and side intakes. Upgrade Hornets with Super Hornet radar as the USMC did. Missions would be a combination of air to air and air to ground plus eventually some patrols over the Black Sea. Crimean unsinkable aircraft carrier in the future. In the near term they would be mostly used as wild weasels to destroy remaining Russian air defenses inside Ukraine. HARM + MALD + JASSM + JDAM trucks with enough AMRAAM and AIM-9 to keep flankers mostly inside Russia.
@@grimreapers how'd u fucking do that... Must be a time traveler it's the only explanation 😂
"Somebody did a thing." It would not be a GR mission without somebody doing a thing.
Agreed
😂😂😂…perfect GR ending
GR Videos... Came for the Mission, Stayed for "Did A Things"! Never change GR, never change!
I wonder how many AIM-54'S could the B-1R carry?
None, because they don't have the radar
Lol about as many AIM-260's they put on it, perhaps a few less ;)
@@pogo1140 lmao the B-1R was a concept concentrated on air-air engagement! So what are you talking about?? Just didn't kno? Or are you talking about Phoenix missile bc The AIM-54C should absolutely work!👍
Mod a B-1R with a super AESA Radar. It's got a large nose that could probably accommodate it.
I recall a series of books by Dale Brown Inc. Flight of the Old Dog, which introduced the concept of highly modded Battleship Bombers.
A B-2 modded to launch AIM-260 (?) by data link could provide large area Air Dominance, whilst being undectable
B-1B already has been upgraded with SABR AESA radar. Essentially a super sized version of the radar in newest F-16s. Should be capable of supporting new AIM-54 variants if they reentered production. B-1R would likely have the same radar or better if built.
Any of the old phoenix missiles used on F-14 are probably expired by now. Currently I think that Iran is the only country producing them, in their local copied variants.
Matrix showing the ‘older and wiser’ method of coming in to land, stand clear of GR on final approach 😂
I like the scenarios because it kinda of gives us a perspective where everything is perfect. Real life scenario there are variables like unmanned, untrained, un maintained air defenses, morale, etc.
The B1 has always been a favorite aircraft of mine. It's such a sleek, menacing-looking airframe. The Tu-160 gives me the same vibes by the way.
Me too…but TU-160 is still my fav
I love the B-ONE! Its my dads plane. He was a wind tunnel technician with Rockwell International when the B was being tested for deployment. I have a picture of my dad working on a scale model as they were testing supersonic airflow over the open bomb bay. I also have several operation manuals for some of the testing as well as a general manual for the wind tunnel. The B-ONE will always have a place in my heart!
Please give your dad a fist bump from me cause the B1 is one of the coolest planes to cruise the skies. I can't even imagine how much fun it was to design! He probably has tons of wild stories about the design progression. 👍👍
I wish I could ask him. He sadly passed away in 2009.
Thx - I was wondering why they called it that. B-1 (one)
I've watched a lot of these videos but for some reason this was one of the most entertaining. Good job team!
I remember watching the show Dogfights and they theorized that in the future a plane such as a B1B Lancer would be loaded with BVR missles and stealth jet would fly point and use data link to mass lob missles. Ive always loved the B1B design.
GR did a couple videos on this concept -- look up Grim Reapers B-1R
Love multi task mission strikes, some specific near peers one would be very interesting.
Wow! A complete success. How un-GR of you, but in a very refreshing way.
Someone was flying with a VMFAT-101 skin F-18! I was at that squadron for 2 years. That’s awesome! Thanks for including it.
Seconds after Cap's great flyby at 32:20 and the stream of BONE comments, Matrix makes one the best unintentional follow ons - " F-16 pilots, you see the white stuff coming off the wingtips?" classic GR, can't script that..
Haha yup, Matrix didn’t seem to catch that 😂
I got to see one of these in flight when my unit was at Fort Polk for training, I still maintain that the B-1 is the LOUDEST aircraft I've ever heard.
I was half way down the runway at the Farnborough Airshow 2008 and seen the B1B Lancer doing a fly by WoW. I did take my headphones off to listen to it ROAR
Had a nightime show of force from a B1B in Helmand, it was deffo lower that they initially told the JTAC, man that thing in full reheat close overhead is loud.
I see the B1s occasionally in UK now, very very nice!
GR idea - WW2 Germany has small group of heavy bombers defended by me-262 trying to attack various locations in England.
So this concept is pretty much Dale Brown's concept from 30 years ago. Updated B52s with massive amounts of precision standoff weaponry acting as bomb trucks to smash huge numbers of targets.
"Uh oh, uh oh, uh oh" 😂😂
Well done, boys. Great video!
Excellent co-ordination and team work there guys 👍🙂
Love the polish raven paint scheme
i LOVE seeing b-1s form my home town of Abilene TEXAS ( DYESS AIRFORCE BASE ) in game .... i believe we have some over in the U.K. at the moment !!!!!
Had to comment on a post to maybe get money. It was what do you eat and watch at midnight.
GR and Cap while eating apples and oranges
Beautiful video Cap, many thanks.
The USAF has paired JDAM-ER with quickstrike naval mine fuses. Precision, standoff, ariel mine laying, much like what you've done here. The big difference is the defenses. I wonder how this would go against modern SAM and if the US/Taiwan could use them to mine Chinese ports in the event of an invasion
That F16 scheme is just wow
:F16 **absolutely struggling to overtake**
:B1R **litterally just cruising**
Cool little mission! and a GR ending LOL
Landing with a B-One-R is HARD! It's STIFF feeling and you have to be careful of sudden EJECTION. But it is a very SATISFYING climax of emission, I mean a mission.
Great vid cap, wouldn't it be nice if multi crew and flyiable bombers like the Lancaster, Hinckle, Vulcan, backfires, F111 and B1 come into DCS.
I was working at a warehouse in downtown Phoenix just west of Sky Harbor International Airport in the early 2000s when a B-1B took off with full afterburners. It set off every car alarm in a five mile radius. Alarmingly loud.
Thank you, CAP & Reapers Crew. I so much look forward to your daily videos, (subscriber and donator).
Ending a mission where everything goes perfect with a mid-air. Just what I have come to expect from the Reapers.
Unironic Bravo Zulu, guys.
My thought during the takeoff roll: "I wonder if DCS simulates wake turbulence..."
Loving the footage coming from RAF Fairford at the moment with the 4 B-1's visiting. They are just lovely 'craft, despite being old.
I love watching Cap chase big B-ONE R's
Yeah, that was a beautiful shot of the B-1 after takeoff, and still looks like a new machine.
I love it when a plan comes together!!!
Not demonetized until @32:30
Well done!! 😅
thx
Matrix, the speculation is that the F-16As for Ukraine will come from the Netherlands, Denmark, and Norway, to be refurbished by Belgium. Poland doesn't want to give theirs up until they have F-35. and Romania doesn't have *any* replacements due for their F-16s (in fact they just bought most of Norway's fleet).
Exactly - everyone will only give up their F16s if they get new F35 (for free ??)
Thats a mouthful mate.
I didn't know the bone was falling apart.
Yo Cap! Please run a scenario with the boy's using both F-15E's and A-10C's!🙏👍
A-10 Thunderbolt II, SU-25 Frogfoot, MB-339 Aermacchi, Super Tucano, OV-10 Bronco, and Pucara VS Warbirds!🙏👍
Mission Brief: Use an *aging* USAF bomber to perform a standoff strike. Supercap: I'll use a super-high performance variant of the B-1B that never existed. Science!
There's a new modification to the Rapid Dragon program that attaches a rocket booster to a carrier that contains JDAMs to give them a tremendous boost in speed and glide range. After boosting the bombs release from the carrier and glide to preset targets.
Could you make a version in DCS? It'll allow longer range cheaper strike capability. Supposedly it triples the glide range to 120NM
It's essentially a bomb shotgun
I'd love to see how the F-111c [Australian version] would perform if you bring it up to the spec that was planned before they were scrapped.
I've heard™ that with the engines it would have got [and that one was tested with, from what I'm told] that they no longer knew what the thrust-based max top speed was because the new limit was thermal from friction. [around mach 3 at high alt.]
Starfighters are just dangerous..
Enjoyed that one Cap
Hmm... I really want them to do one of my requests... "Could MISSILE hit PLANE?"
7:50
I didn't know that full air to air mode involved removing the joystick. 😂
video Idea: replicate the 1991 invasion of iraq but With DCS AI (kinda like your naval battles) but make it so there is ground and air combat.
B1 is nice. Actually I like the Vulcans and Aaardvarks more. The main reason being, that they lack this big boxy air intakes. They ruin the lines of the B1.
36:49 I was looking at the formation and was thinking about the XB-70 Valkyrie accident and guess what... But boner kept flying.
love these videos, you guys are great . . . 👍
ED, give us an official B-1 module!
Awesome video and great work to Cap and the Boys!
Like these that have multi objectives inter linked more than the standard 1 bone vs whatever. More 'realistic' scenario. Do more like these with prepping a target for an air to ground strike. Great video!
Love the videos. Out of interest how do you select which 10% you end up doing? The most interesting or the most viable to test? I'm always amazed with the amount of effort that goes into these. My favourite was the Tomcat vampire carried scenario quite a while back, big red storm rising nostalgia from that one. Cheers guys!
Well done!🎉
Cap, would you consider a match in which teams of players form a "nation" and are given a budget, then allowed to procure whatever weapons they like within the budget and then battle it out? It would be interesting to see what missiles, aircraft and air defences players would choose on a "fantasy" team... Or if any of them would choose to spam hundreds of cheap stuff instead.
Perhaps let them chat (and lie, mislead) about their choices beforehand and then only unveil the choices when the match is set up, or when they encounter it...
Hello valued Super Cap and GR, I hope you are doing wonderfully well :)
I would love to see the Raptors vs the SU-35, but instead of having the same number of aircraft, I think it would be a great experiment to match each sides price. So the stealthy US fighters vs. the Russian 4th gen fighters that are equivalent in price.
I understand there is a natural preference for full fidelity planes, but when you're doing a mission where you need to carry a bunch of AMRAAMs while also carrying enough fuel to keep up with a B-1 bomber, I don't get why you don't use the F-15C.
F-15C carries almost as much fuel with no bags as an F-16 does with 3 bags. Just adding the center bag to an F-15C gives it almost 3,500 pounds more fuel than a fully laden F-16, and it can tote a couple more AMRAAMs, too. Just seems like a better choice when the mission is air-to-air.
The B1 is what I heard one designer say "if it looks right it is right". I have to say that mostly holds for aircraft. If you knew nothing about how the aircraft actually preformed you could come really close just by how "right" it looks.
Damn, I would love the see the point of view of the other pilots when Cap zoomed between the F-18, F16 and the B1 at almost mach 2...
Even if an S-300 or S-400 can shoot down a JDAM-ER, the unit cost I can find for the JDAM-ER or $35k. The SAM missiles that would be used to take them out maybe up to 100x more. That is, if the opponent fires such missiles at a JDAM-ER, you win, regardless of if you hit your target or not. Quantity can have a quality all on it's own.
I was looking for this post, win win for the good guys...
When BA retired Concorde I said the MoD should have bought them up and turned them into stand-off weapons delivery platforms. No fighter will catch something capable of mach 2 for hours on end unless they get really lucky with the intercept.
Proposal for nation names, Narnia and Mordor.
Excellent!!!
32:22 that was cool tho!
A real Mk84 2000lb bomb actually weighs 2700lb (+ JDAM kit). It's amazing that such a simple (yet huge) detail has been overlooked by DCS.
I was a Bone maintainer and can attest to the nightmare of maintaining it.
I was thinking, "you should never put a plane below you...that is how collisions happ...", then you collided. lol
I know this is probably impossible but concord converted to a bomber or very big missile truck would be interesting
I would love to see if you guys could build/model a B-58.
B58 is very sexy
They are an absolute nightmare as a maintainer, but they fly pretty well
Crazy when it all goes to plan, lol 🎉🎉🎉
32:46 - The white stuff coming of the end off the bone-r ? 🤔
These videos are quite entertaining. Having not done anything on flight simulator programs, how much time would you recommend learning how to fly somewhere else before even trying out the DCS world?
Jdams could be great against s400s. Just the cost ratio alone is amazing. Drain the sam network and dare them not to fire.
Great stuff Bone-R for the win
great mission!
The BoneR has got to be my favourite plane out of all the GR videos . . .
Can’t wait to see those type 26 frigates in action, could even lead to possible joint operation scenarios between the uk, Australia and Canada in areas like the pacific, that’d be pretty neat
Love the Polish livery on the F-16.
Sweet take off boys!
What about the Tu-160 at mach 2, at 40,000 ft, droping FAB guided bombes?
Doing so well . Tell the end. Almost perfect. Lol👍😁
You could even have the b1b's toss the bombs to extend their range even further.
Was that a JANET airlines at 36:58???
Good and enlightenment entertainment and lots of funny humor is what I like.👍 Can you please do a video about those brave men who flew the flying fortress of B-24 to destroy Hitler's oil supply in Ploesti, Romania? They flew over the Transylvanian Alps and came in on very low altitude to boom boom. But the germans had a very fortified airdefence of anti-air guns and barrage balloons et.c. It was a carnage. Source: Fortress ploesti:The campaign to destroy Hitler's oil supply by Jay A. Stout.
That would require something like an 18 hour Wargame, a B-24 mod and representative terraim map.
@@grmatrix6358 Or you could summon it up with less plane and keep it small but accurate.
Gotta try this against CH’s new systems. My guess is there’d be no chance against modern air defence.
I'd love to see this with the B-1 shooting SDBs instead of JDAMS. Apparently they can bring 144 of the things... Seems a lot easier to saturate the defense with that many glide bombs...
JDAMS killed parking spots on tarmac.....zeros hits on runway?
Have you guys looked at modeling the "quicksink" GBU-31?
I wonder if these cheaper JDAMs could be used in a first wave to deplete modern opposing SAM sites before the more expensive, more sophisticated modern stuff is used to actually strike the targets. Any older ones that do get through are a bonus I suppose. I only say this because from what I have observed from previous scenarios, most missiles (and aircraft for that matter) are blocked early on until through attrition, the opposition end up running short on their defensive missiles. Just a thought...
It is time to employ the "SIMBIA" loyal wingman, SIMBA's artificially intelligent replacement, when he is away and cannot play.
i love the f16, used to be the only fighter in our airforce, we do have some f35s now, but the f16 is just beautifull, our f16s are also together with the f16s from the usa are the most modern. I am dutch btw. love your videos, wish I had a pc with dcs etc
Sorry if asked before, where can we find the JDAM-ER to use it in our own missions?
you would use F-111's coming it at mach 1.2 at sea level, go pick that up on radar, it's what they were designed for
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