This is the most based video about a video game. I agree with everything you've said. Yes Eve looks sexy and she has Sugar Mommy vibe, but as a man, i am smart enough to tell that this is just a game and it won't have any influence in my real life. Yes i love seeing butts, boobs, hips and thighs like all men do, but i am also aware that this is just a bunch of pixels combined . I mean who would be so degenerate to think that this game is making women feel like objects or that they should all look like that in order to have a partner or someone to be in love with ? It's just a game. And most women are beautiful just the way they are ( except these who make surgeries on themselfs to ruin their body for nothing )
I fully agree. I think the problem is in the hands of women because they get so jealous easily but I do not think it's anyone's fault other than the women's own fault, or whoever has a problem with it
I really hate to break in to your points but uh.. The main reason why Eve has the body she was given my developers is for fanservice, aka sexualization. Because I haven't played the game myself but I don't think having a perfect hourglass body is relevant to the plot. Yes it doesn't affect real life but women are already so overfetishized by the media that this doesn't help our case. And the body type she has is in fact really hard to achieve, and while yeah you can work out a lot to be muscular women cannot increase their breast size by hitting the gym. But plastic surgery. It pushes that overwhelming feeling of not being attractive enough that have been tormenting women for decades. And fanservice isn't an overall bad thing but the characters that have been put or just made to be for fanservice are usually females. And they are male characters too, yeah however way more less compared to females.
@@sappametalyippierz I hate to break your points, but if they can make the MC sexy why they should not? Its not relevant to plot, but why not? Its their game. Case of what? Woman not overfetishized. Its Woman. You can make good woman character while not making her sexy. (Case in point Ellie from The last of us. Not the MC, but Aya from AC Origins. She was attractive while not being sexualized. Her fit body can be even explained.) I will tell you a secret but not all people looking for big breasts. A lot of guys looking for just complexed body. Where areas just in a good ratio to one another. My wife not having big boobs but having waist to match good looking butt is not an issue. Every sane person understanding that she can have one of 3 maybe 2 of 3. AND THATS OKAY. The women not feeling attractive? Its that women who written shit ton of Fanfics about Harry Potter while making them sexy and gay? I will tell you a secret but they not find themselfs unattractive, the find themselfs not being told what love is. You will be surprised how much more good looking women will be if you will tell her that you love her. When you raise her self esteem. (The ones who saying this body type is unrealistic dont need it. they already thinking they are queens of this world and Miss Universe just because they are thinking they are. They want to be loved by force, not because they actually want it.) Guess why they making fanservice women characters? Cause male audience is the main audience of Video Games. You will be surprised but the ratio of fan service male characters somehow matching the percentage of women playing it. And if its not fanserviced enough they always can make new fanfics with every shit possible. They doing it for years.
@@sappametalyippierz Oh shut up. So tall men in media does not make short men feel inadequate? Who are the male heroes we play as? Men with bodies that only steroids can give you, "forcing" young men to take drugs to live up to the unrealistic standards set by media. Go workout, and maybe you can have that ass too, which you clearly see as vastly superior to your couch potato ass. Edit: a large part of the reason I have a muscular and ripped body is because I grew up admiring the muscular heroes I played as in video games during my childhood. Use it as an inspiration to become better, not whine that it sets the bar too high.
I love how you really got into the crux of the argument and saw it from the various perspectives and not simply knuckling down on your existing one. You really got into this in a good clear and level manner, well done.
Women dont feel inspired. Women would rather the character look like them and reinforce their negative qualities. **Men want to be the Superhero** **Women want the Superhero to be them**
This is an incredibly good, well-presented and on-point take on this matter. We've always looked up to, glorified and been inspired by beautiful people in their absolute prime-especially in fiction and fantasy art. That hasn't magically changed, and never will. It's not "wrong" to do so. Also, If the devs didn't have a deep love and appreciation of feminine beauty, they couldn't have achieved Eve's insanely accurate, _realistic_ fidelity to begin with.
It's like they never checked out Instagram where real women using fake-ass filters compete with real women creating negative thoughts as to what a date-able woman should look like as opposed to a video game that is clearly a stylized fantastical experience of running around in clothing totally not befitting of wielding those swords and whatnot.
The question should've been, why does she have to be a hot android woman, and not a battle android optimally designed for battle? That would make sense, just saying "well she looks unrealistic" define it. context, body itself, or current trends? What makes it unrealistic?
Because in plot of this game they believe, they are true humans only enhanced. SPOILER: In the end of game they realize humans on earth mutated in monsters and the so called "saviors" (main character) actually work for genocidal "mothership" entity trying to wipe out last humanity. Natyibas are mutated humas, they mutated themselfs as reaction against androids. And you have endgame choice to "wipe last humanity ressistance" or "fuse with mutated human to transcend and move humanity on next level".
yeah im progressive egalitarian but i have never understood the sex-negative part of feminism. it is a problem to be payed less than men for the same job, etc. its not a problem for fictional characters to be sexy. usually male protagonists also have top 1% physiques too :)
isn't ironic how it is both positive and negative? It's positive to choose to be a sex worker, but it is negative to be the customer of one, it is okay to make "artistic nudity" but god forbid if you are part of the target audience.
a man can train their muscles to increase their muscle volume, there is currently no training that enables women to change their fat distribution and bone structure for women it feels even harder to become like eve than it is for a man to become like arnold, she would have to come up with body morphing superpowers good luck lmao i do appreciate the reminder that attractiveness is normally distributed, it really is that simple 99% of women cannot be like Eve, if they were then Eve's attractiveness wouldn't be so apparent and disruptive anyway, not all games are for everyone if someone is bothered by a game, just don't engage with it (do self reflect and work on self acceptance etc.) i personally don't play this game but i'm ok with it existing and it being enjoyed by other people
Sexism: Prejudice or discrimination based on one's sex or gender. Female characters having huge "features" or skimpy clothing does not make something sexist. It's misandry trying to push culture out and put their agenda in.
bro do you know the story about the beetles that almost went extinct in australia? it's the future of humans with this ai corn, the beetles were mating with a beer bottle that looked like a female beetle
You might get inspired by looking at a picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger, that's all good, i'm happy you're happy with the way that your gender is portrayed in media, let me ask you this tho. Is Arnold Schwarzenegger and all the other buff male characters you find in video games supposed to appeal to women's sexual desire, or is the intention of the creator to empower male players by letting them indulge in the fantasy of being a big strong buff guy? I think that the latter option is uncontroversially more likely. Now Eve, as you acknowledge in this video is in fact a thirst trap for the male target audience, there's nothing empowering about playing a object of desire for man. After all being the object of desire for man is the cause of much distress for women in the real world. I think its uncontroversial to say that in the video game and film industrys man are usually in charge of the creative decisions related to portraying women, and they usually don't take much input from women about how they want to be represented and end up just representing their desires instead, and women can pick up on this ofc. So can you really blame them for not being happy with the way they are represented? Would you be happy with the way the male gender is represented in video games if 70% of the male characters in video games appealed to women's desires and had the character design and mannerism of a boy love manga protagonist or whatever other tropes would represent a woman's desire?
Have you seen women's television shows with men portrayed exactly how women want. A video game character is not representation and if you think so then you need to see a therapist.
Human anatomy my guy this game is a cyber fantasy game not real life simulation game also they don't code the jiggle physics into the game engine they simple purchase the engine that was made by a company that makes the game engine but everything you said after that is agreeable and everyone knows that some type of sex sells also people who are offended by this game is scary since its just polygons and pixels and their the same company that made Nikke Goddess Victory which is funny since nobody really judged that game
You say its not unrealistic and your point is, its based on a model (with photoshop) xD Yeah, i mean, she looks like a model and not like a real women, so why should you claim, that she looks realistic in first place? This doll is not authentic and she dosent need to be! ^^
what i personally find frustrating about these kinds of designs, even as a man who is attracted to women, is that they arent realistic in the sense that a warrior or fighter character often has no reason to be this sexualised. it just makes for bad character design and story telling. like the whole art direction has to stop being interesting because it needs to pander to my sexual desires. its just bad art.
Eve is not human but artificial being so warriors or fighters body doesn't apply like in fantasy or DND story. Just like 2B in Nier Automata. So having big muscles are irrelevant. For fan service part, why not. There's literally games made for girls with pretty boys with those unrealistically pretty face and body too you know.
@@mrdiamozz9612 XD Yeah. Like the design is pretty and cute. People always think men objectify sexually but I just love 2B and Eve design. And what more Eve have multiple costume. When I was young, I didn't understand why girls like to play dress up but now I understand. It started with FF lightning return and collecting dress and changing and upgrading is pretty addicting plus you get different spells and ability with each costume.
@@Shinesart it still doesn't make sense, why would an AI give it's army of killer androids fat asses and big tits? I'm pretty sure that was OP's point - they wouldnt
I think what women mean when they say sexist in this case is, it's unrealistic for a gamer to be with a female with the body type. So they shame the gamer for wanting, or even dabbing in a fantasy world.
you know what? what was sexism again? i dont remember. i heard to many people say it lately and the definition was obscured
Anything that annoys tumblr professional victims...so basically everything.
anything can be categorized inside it as long as the a man, specially white man.
This is the most based video about a video game. I agree with everything you've said.
Yes Eve looks sexy and she has Sugar Mommy vibe, but as a man, i am smart enough to tell that this is just a game and it won't have any influence in my real life.
Yes i love seeing butts, boobs, hips and thighs like all men do, but i am also aware that this is just a bunch of pixels combined . I mean who would be so degenerate to think that this game is making women feel like objects or that they should all look like that in order to have a partner or someone to be in love with ?
It's just a game. And most women are beautiful just the way they are ( except these who make surgeries on themselfs to ruin their body for nothing )
I fully agree. I think the problem is in the hands of women because they get so jealous easily but I do not think it's anyone's fault other than the women's own fault, or whoever has a problem with it
I really hate to break in to your points but uh.. The main reason why Eve has the body she was given my developers is for fanservice, aka sexualization. Because I haven't played the game myself but I don't think having a perfect hourglass body is relevant to the plot. Yes it doesn't affect real life but women are already so overfetishized by the media that this doesn't help our case. And the body type she has is in fact really hard to achieve, and while yeah you can work out a lot to be muscular women cannot increase their breast size by hitting the gym. But plastic surgery. It pushes that overwhelming feeling of not being attractive enough that have been tormenting women for decades.
And fanservice isn't an overall bad thing but the characters that have been put or just made to be for fanservice are usually females. And they are male characters too, yeah however way more less compared to females.
@@sappametalyippierz who cares I haven't played the game either but if it is hot asf then that's just dope like why not right?
@@sappametalyippierz I hate to break your points, but if they can make the MC sexy why they should not? Its not relevant to plot, but why not? Its their game. Case of what? Woman not overfetishized. Its Woman. You can make good woman character while not making her sexy. (Case in point Ellie from The last of us. Not the MC, but Aya from AC Origins. She was attractive while not being sexualized. Her fit body can be even explained.)
I will tell you a secret but not all people looking for big breasts. A lot of guys looking for just complexed body. Where areas just in a good ratio to one another. My wife not having big boobs but having waist to match good looking butt is not an issue. Every sane person understanding that she can have one of 3 maybe 2 of 3. AND THATS OKAY.
The women not feeling attractive? Its that women who written shit ton of Fanfics about Harry Potter while making them sexy and gay? I will tell you a secret but they not find themselfs unattractive, the find themselfs not being told what love is. You will be surprised how much more good looking women will be if you will tell her that you love her. When you raise her self esteem. (The ones who saying this body type is unrealistic dont need it. they already thinking they are queens of this world and Miss Universe just because they are thinking they are. They want to be loved by force, not because they actually want it.)
Guess why they making fanservice women characters? Cause male audience is the main audience of Video Games. You will be surprised but the ratio of fan service male characters somehow matching the percentage of women playing it. And if its not fanserviced enough they always can make new fanfics with every shit possible. They doing it for years.
@@sappametalyippierz Oh shut up. So tall men in media does not make short men feel inadequate? Who are the male heroes we play as? Men with bodies that only steroids can give you, "forcing" young men to take drugs to live up to the unrealistic standards set by media. Go workout, and maybe you can have that ass too, which you clearly see as vastly superior to your couch potato ass.
Edit: a large part of the reason I have a muscular and ripped body is because I grew up admiring the muscular heroes I played as in video games during my childhood. Use it as an inspiration to become better, not whine that it sets the bar too high.
Literally the most based and sane take on this!
ON GOD!
It is based lol.
I love how you really got into the crux of the argument and saw it from the various perspectives and not simply knuckling down on your existing one. You really got into this in a good clear and level manner, well done.
Yes, I am ashamed of my self
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Women dont feel inspired. Women would rather the character look like them and reinforce their negative qualities.
**Men want to be the Superhero**
**Women want the Superhero to be them**
This is an incredibly good, well-presented and on-point take on this matter.
We've always looked up to, glorified and been inspired by beautiful people in their absolute prime-especially in fiction and fantasy art. That hasn't magically changed, and never will. It's not "wrong" to do so. Also, If the devs didn't have a deep love and appreciation of feminine beauty, they couldn't have achieved Eve's insanely accurate, _realistic_ fidelity to begin with.
As a fellow professional in the tech industry I salute you comrade.
It's like they never checked out Instagram where real women using fake-ass filters compete with real women creating negative thoughts as to what a date-able woman should look like as opposed to a video game that is clearly a stylized fantastical experience of running around in clothing totally not befitting of wielding those swords and whatnot.
thanks for actually covering this topic like a reasonable person would
The question should've been, why does she have to be a hot android woman, and not a battle android optimally designed for battle? That would make sense, just saying "well she looks unrealistic" define it. context, body itself, or current trends? What makes it unrealistic?
Because in plot of this game they believe, they are true humans only enhanced. SPOILER: In the end of game they realize humans on earth mutated in monsters and the so called "saviors" (main character) actually work for genocidal "mothership" entity trying to wipe out last humanity. Natyibas are mutated humas, they mutated themselfs as reaction against androids. And you have endgame choice to "wipe last humanity ressistance" or "fuse with mutated human to transcend and move humanity on next level".
Because its fictional its not real life and its not that deep
yeah im progressive egalitarian but i have never understood the sex-negative part of feminism. it is a problem to be payed less than men for the same job, etc. its not a problem for fictional characters to be sexy. usually male protagonists also have top 1% physiques too :)
exactly
isn't ironic how it is both positive and negative? It's positive to choose to be a sex worker, but it is negative to be the customer of one, it is okay to make "artistic nudity" but god forbid if you are part of the target audience.
Love the fact they they call a 3D scan of an actual Woman ”unrealestic”. They even toned down the hip to waist ratio compared to the actaul person
In a country with an obesity epidemic I guess it is "unrealistic."
@@ferrisbueller9991 Its Just women being jealous over fictional characters because there fat.
What is that mouse?
isn't eve was based off a real model where her body looks exactly the same or am i tripping?
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@MioAkiyama3686 What's the relevance?
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Based take.
It objectifies women. This is definitely at least one reason.
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Yeah, damn, how bad. I think Stellar Blade is sooo sexist.
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*Anyway*
"oh no, anyway"
Maybe there is an untapped market we're missing. Maybe not for the average joe, but for the users of X(twitter) and i think ?reddit?
a man can train their muscles to increase their muscle volume, there is currently no training that enables women to change their fat distribution and bone structure
for women it feels even harder to become like eve than it is for a man to become like arnold, she would have to come up with body morphing superpowers good luck lmao
i do appreciate the reminder that attractiveness is normally distributed, it really is that simple
99% of women cannot be like Eve, if they were then Eve's attractiveness wouldn't be so apparent and disruptive
anyway, not all games are for everyone
if someone is bothered by a game, just don't engage with it (do self reflect and work on self acceptance etc.)
i personally don't play this game but i'm ok with it existing and it being enjoyed by other people
Sexism: Prejudice or discrimination based on one's sex or gender.
Female characters having huge "features" or skimpy clothing does not make something sexist. It's misandry trying to push culture out and put their agenda in.
1:28 "how people magaged to GYAT.."
mate ima buying this no CAP
lol ofc
well said!
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Dude went on to defend booty for 13 min straight. Anyway I don't know about the "most men are sane" but I hope you're right 😂
still would
bro do you know the story about the beetles that almost went extinct in australia? it's the future of humans with this ai corn, the beetles were mating with a beer bottle that looked like a female beetle
You might get inspired by looking at a picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger, that's all good, i'm happy you're happy with the way that your gender is portrayed in media, let me ask you this tho.
Is Arnold Schwarzenegger and all the other buff male characters you find in video games supposed to appeal to women's sexual desire, or is the intention of the creator to empower male players by letting them indulge in the fantasy of being a big strong buff guy? I think that the latter option is uncontroversially more likely.
Now Eve, as you acknowledge in this video is in fact a thirst trap for the male target audience, there's nothing empowering about playing a object of desire for man. After all being the object of desire for man is the cause of much distress for women in the real world.
I think its uncontroversial to say that in the video game and film industrys man are usually in charge of the creative decisions related to portraying women, and they usually don't take much input from women about how they want to be represented and end up just representing their desires instead, and women can pick up on this ofc. So can you really blame them for not being happy with the way they are represented?
Would you be happy with the way the male gender is represented in video games if 70% of the male characters in video games appealed to women's desires and had the character design and mannerism of a boy love manga protagonist or whatever other tropes would represent a woman's desire?
Have you seen women's television shows with men portrayed exactly how women want. A video game character is not representation and if you think so then you need to see a therapist.
Human anatomy my guy this game is a cyber fantasy game not real life simulation game also they don't code the jiggle physics into the game engine they simple purchase the engine that was made by a company that makes the game engine but everything you said after that is agreeable and everyone knows that some type of sex sells also people who are offended by this game is scary since its just polygons and pixels and their the same company that made Nikke Goddess Victory which is funny since nobody really judged that game
You say its not unrealistic and your point is, its based on a model (with photoshop) xD Yeah, i mean, she looks like a model and not like a real women, so why should you claim, that she looks realistic in first place?
This doll is not authentic and she dosent need to be! ^^
what i personally find frustrating about these kinds of designs, even as a man who is attracted to women, is that they arent realistic in the sense that a warrior or fighter character often has no reason to be this sexualised. it just makes for bad character design and story telling. like the whole art direction has to stop being interesting because it needs to pander to my sexual desires. its just bad art.
Eve is not human but artificial being so warriors or fighters body doesn't apply like in fantasy or DND story. Just like 2B in Nier Automata. So having big muscles are irrelevant. For fan service part, why not. There's literally games made for girls with pretty boys with those unrealistically pretty face and body too you know.
What about 2B ? The art is dope
@@Shinesart I love how you and I had the same idea XD
@@mrdiamozz9612 XD Yeah. Like the design is pretty and cute. People always think men objectify sexually but I just love 2B and Eve design. And what more Eve have multiple costume.
When I was young, I didn't understand why girls like to play dress up but now I understand. It started with FF lightning return and collecting dress and changing and upgrading is pretty addicting plus you get different spells and ability with each costume.
@@Shinesart it still doesn't make sense, why would an AI give it's army of killer androids fat asses and big tits? I'm pretty sure that was OP's point - they wouldnt
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I think what women mean when they say sexist in this case is, it's unrealistic for a gamer to be with a female with the body type. So they shame the gamer for wanting, or even dabbing in a fantasy world.