War of Words Continues! Steve Nicol calls Liverpool’s throw-in coach comments NONSENSE! | ESPN FC
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- Former Liverpool defender and current ESPN FC analyst Steve Nicol is joined by Dan Thomas and Craig Burley to respond to Liverpool’s throw-in coach Thomas Gronnemark criticising Nicol for his views on why Jurgen Klopp’s side even need a coach for throw-ins.
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The throw in coach actually has benefitted Liverpool quite a bit. Numbers don’t lie.
How?
@@MD_ENTERTAINMENT Liverpool's possession of the ball after a throw-in has improve significantly after the coach came in.
All respect to Nicol and all he did. But on this regard, he is just flat out wrong.
Sure, he may not be teaching the players anything eye-opening.
But let's face it, no coach can teach these world class players anything significantly "new".
Coaching at this level is more about get the drills done right on a daily basis so that it becomes muscle memory.
Could Klopp have done it himself? Probably.
But the role of a boss is to delegate, not try to do everything himself. He is already doing alot, I don't see any issue with delegating away some work.
And it worked!
@@fuNaN89 am sorry but nothing change. Klopp team is a position base team and thats how they play whenever they get the ball. Other teams that plays like that do the same thing you dont need a specific coach for that, its nothing new.
English Stacey 🙋🏽 So goals scored as a result of throw-ins by L’pool players are attributed to the club’s throw-in coach. Then who gets the credit when goals are scored as a result of throw-ins from players with no throw-in coaches. It’s nothing revolutionary really.
Chimera Gaming Liverpool went from around 30% retention rate from throw ins to 80% when the throw in coach came in. Nobody is claiming he is revolutionary but his presence brought more attention to a part of the game that isn’t often focused on. This isn’t fucking rocket science, and you don’t need to be a Liverpool fan to see in the statistics how it has helped, I’m a united fan I wouldn’t mind us getting this guy in for a couple sessions.
If Klopp says he needs a throw -in coach he is right, not Steve Nichol and his ignorance.
I'm a lifetime Red (54 years and counting). A throw in is a part of the game just as much as any other. Why would you not train it and practice it? Winning is often about fine margins and if a throw in coach can earn the club a few more wins and points, then it's time that Steve Nicol spent more time gardening and less as a pundit. Good player but limited between his ears.
Christ there really is nothing to talk about is there
Idk but I think ESPN is falling just like Televisa since there's no sports to talk about but they won't tell us that and I'm feeling there budget is low.
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everyone on the show and all you in the comments clearly havent looked up the stats.. the retained possession from throwin has went from one of the worst in europe to the second best not that hard to find.. its not the most important thing on the pitch but its another aspect that can help a team play a certain way. also hes saying the guys on the show dont think statistics are important which is antiquated.
I was looking for this comment it's just like passing and keeping possession which is a huge part of the game now
Well said
The only club higher than liverpool is the throw in coaches former club
Im far from a Liverpool fan but to deny the difference he's made. One of the reasons Liverpool has won matches is their ability to retain possession from a throw in. The stats don't lie. Klopp hired the guy and has won trophies as a manager that none of these loudmouths have. 🤷🏿♂️
You are wrong about Klopp winning more trophies. If we only count major trophies, Steve Nicol won 4 league titles, 3 FA cups and 1 European cup as a player. Klopp has won 2 league titles, 1 DFB Pokal and 1 Champions league. Get your facts right sir
@@ElNino2993 no one is comparing Nicol and klopps trophy haul. Totally irrelevant
Who cares if you're a liverpool fan or not. The rest is spot on though.
Vinayak Shukla Mate you’re dumb, you’re comparing manger and players on trophies.
@@whtwhtI mean, this guy did say that Klopp has won trophies as a manager that none of these guys has. Now, I agree that Steve did not have much success as a manager but that does not change the fact that these guys have won trophies as players which Klopp did not. My point is that using trophies as a measure of whose opinion is better is not a good way.
Liverpool work on data. If the data says a throw in coach it significantly improves the team they do it. They buy players based on data not on hype and I think it's been working well for them.
Rory Delap is proof that throw ins can be utilized very well, although Liverpools throw ins are more subtle than Delaps.
Steve doesn't agree with anything that wasn't used during his time
Everything has room to improve including throwing. These guys arrogance is too much. Old school guys dont understand sport science.
Funny thing is Craig is saying they used have something like this in scotland and it never worked😆😆😆 what else has worked with Scotland😂😂😂😂
Rory Delap is the only throw in coach worth paying
Tony Haven bruh his throw ins were like low flying aircraft
Liverpool throw-ins have significantly improved since he came in
Great steve nicol went from "Mo Salah HATE club" to
"throwing coach hate club".
Embarrassing.
Stevie has to actually look into what the coach does, because he doesnt get it, clearly.
Yes, players already understand movements.
But that's like saying they don't need Klopp because they know how to strike a ball.
The guy has obviously helped create patterns and routines which help Liverpool keep possession more frequently. There is absolutely nothing wrong (actually id argue its a big positive and you should do it) with coming up with a few principles and specific patterns the players can follow.
PROFESSIONAL
Throw-in coach Thomas Gronnemark = maximising the team’s abilities/potential scoring
UNCIVILISED
Stevie not worth a Nickel = maximising his beer belly alcohol/shepherd’s pie
I let you be the judge people?
Stevie has won multiple league titles and a European cup, have some respect you fool.
yawn 🥱
There is nothing wrong with a throw in coach. It can be nothing but a positive.
2:15....Since when did Samoa Joe start doing football related interviews?!!??
samoan joe? more like indian sanjay
Firstly, he held the world record for longest throw. Secondly, Klopp found his work useful. Lastly, the stats show tremendous improvement in throw-in ball retention. That is enough proof for me.
There is reason why no managers call these two in for information. They are stuck in the Stone age.
I have to say stevie is ESPN's worst soccer analyst by far.
Very arrogant and bias!
Cant stand this guy.
He'll always walk alone...
The scientific 🧪 🧫 😂
Nigerian Jefe
You look cool. Nija!
John Kimmel Bless up brother ✊🏾
And this is partly why Liverpool went on a slow decline during the 90s. All the players from the 80s glory days were not receptive to new ideas in modern football that Graeme Souness had successfully applied during his successful years at Rangers, especially when it came to dietary requirements. And now, lo and behold, one of these players are now rejecting the idea of weaponizing throw-ins in modern football.
Imagine a world....where Craig Burley makes more sense than Steve Nicol!
How did ESPN get this bad?
Bring back Tommy Smith, Janusz Michallik, Robbie Earle and Robbie Mustoe...
What about Rory Delap 😜
Actually quite sad to see a Liverpool legend trying to dispute actual facts and the data that has improved throw ins.
What argument this ? Steve can't admit bcz he is still doesn't know modern football or sport science second without benefit klope didn't hired him
He won more the lot playing for Liverpool now he played in the days when the game was much harder to play.
@@paulmcnamara4774 physically harder, but the tactics are harder to play against now. Every team using the bog standard 442 probably couldn't handle the high pressing movements nowadays
Wow they are not talking about pogba or Manchester United today lol
Steve Nichol needs to get the part of his brain that produces his conversation on football removed
You can hear the giggling on the background LOL
At the end of the day Nicol the results validate his signing as throw in coach for Liverpool.
Does Steve Nicol ever say anything decent? Of course the game has changed from 30 years ago. And of course there’s more to throw ins than the action of just throwing the ball. Wise up
Steviesaurus Rex
They played it twice just to get the vid to 10 minutes smh. ESPN money hungry
says u
Steve Nicol, the man who asked for his pizza cut into 6 not 8 as he couldn't eat 8 slices, theres a reason his nickname was trigger !!! 😂🤯
The problem with these dinosaurs is that they're too lazy to keep up with the tactical innovations of the modern game. They played football when it was practically a different sport. They're painfully superficial and basic in their commentary.
I wonder what his salary is 😂
At 6:06 That smile😁, PERFECT!!👌🏿
How are they allowed to play golf? Isn't the city supposed to ve on lockdown?
I don’t think so in Connecticut, they mentioned how the governor said that golf was essential I suppose
It's ok if you obtserve the the social distancing rules . Which golf has ample opportunities for. (Yawn) you know there there is a balance to maintain to keep people mentally healthy right. Exercise and activity is important in that regard. But the US approach is baffling to watch. So much anger and strive uncertainty and fear. That seems much less when I talk to people in most of Europe. Its not perfect but the focus is much better here and the collaboration . I send my heart out for you and hope you pull through as best you can.
Rory Delap throw in for Stoke City was the most feared in the prem the throw in king
The coach was absolutely right !!!
Don't be a dinosaur Stevie
Where's shaka these days?
Steve Nicol is right what qualifications does a throw in coach have?
This is why Steve Nicol is my favourite on this podium.😂
ill take a champions league winning manager opinion rather than a failed mls coach
Steve Nicol is not a failed MLS coach he won the North American Super League, The US open Cup and MLS coach of the year.
Stevie probably has nightmares about the throw in coach 😂😂
Throw in and marking and pressing=counter attacks goals, i disagree with Stevie Nicol here.. There was a piece on The Echo today about how player mark and work manipulate the throw in for a counter attack with video
Bupe Mwenya Retaining ball possession after throw ins, which prevents counter attacks. Liverpool have even scored goals right off retaining possession from throwins.
Steven Nicol is mad that you all go to school in vehicles when he had to walk five miles. Uphill both ways.
Stevie being bitter..
Rory delap the king of throw ins who created many goals with his crazy throw ins, have a word with him.
He sure told you Stevie
If we can accept set piece routines, am sure we can accept throw in routines.
Look at Nicol’s record enough said Steve Nicol to Liverpool was like Dennis Irwin was to Utd, both consistently top class players
not relevant
If you practise and work on elements of your game you'll improve. Just like if Nicol had practised penalties before the European Cup in 1984 in Rome he might not have skyed his kick over the bar. He's a dinosaur.
The ball boys also need to be part of this " Throw-ins" coaching?
Can someone explain social media to these dinosaurs... Old man was pissed😂
Steve nicole, you’re always gonna be the guy who said “Alexander Arnold is not a good defender but he is a best right back in the world” so you’re arguments are always going to be irrelevant
The problem is that senior players are still part of the very conservative approach that is in the football world. many good players dont question what is being done on the train ring field very much.sometimes it is even perturbed by the better players. Because they are in the team without having to be challenged as much. And I saw a lot of people not thinking about how they should throw in . Or that the basics of football is just something that you would know automatically. But from one coming outside the sport from another sport these things you dont know or can do automatically and sometimes these "natural" things are not being improved or is not as good as they could be and my experience is mostly on lower levels of football . But when I watch higher level football I saw a lot of the same patterns that impedes improvement.
This didnt age well
It repeats twice?
Nicol brilliant player fact 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Nonchalant Craig is becoming a fave of mine
Steve Nicol is not the coach of Liverpool he needs to shut up kopp is the coach and bcoz of kopp Liverpool is winning n going in a right direction.
IGNORE burley
I'm with the throwing coach
Nasty Dan, ....... nasty. 😈
Ask Stevie if he used a throw-in coach for when his golf-ball went out of bounds ?
Get the throw into the mixer
Think I'd trust Klopp over Steve nicol tbh
Please just suspend the show for a week, there is nothing to talk about
Nicol makes me embarassed that he is an ex Liverpool player, everything that comes out of his mouth is garbage.
These two Scots are great!!! Love the banter. :)
Triggered.
So Nicol proves what we already knew, he is a footballing dinosaur.
Bs from throw in coach
No. It has worked for liverpool. They went from the 3rd worst in the league to the second best in Europe regarding throw-ins. The only team ahead of them is the other team coached by the Liverpool throw in coach
Good to see Stevie. Thought the covid got him. 😂
Breaking News ! Liverpool to employ Daniel Sturridge as their goal celebration coach because according to data science, Mo Salah and Firmino have extremely risky celebrations and the big German overlord in charge wants it to stop.
Slow on news I see Lol
Hey, Teams, I am a "Corners Specialist Coach" anyone wanna hire me? lol! Also, another colleague is a 'Goal-Kick Specialists, any openings for him? Willing to move to any country for the jobs! LOL!
if more than half of your goal-kicks result in losing possession to your opponent, maybe your team do need a goal kick coach.
Nicol is a plonker. These so called pundits talk shite non stop. Absolutely ridiculous they are or are they trying to be comedians !! Ynwa
... when you have no more content to talk about
Steve needs to move on. His time has gone.
i completely agree with steve. i havent really seen any serious improvement with liverpool throwing routine, if not anything , it has probably gotten worse with unecessary delays
Stevie is absolutely right.
Why not a short freekick coach or a back heel coach? lol
An old man with a crying face.
Thats when someone steals your girl. Lol
I'm sure the throw-in coach thinks what he does is terribly important. He has to, it's his job. I'm skeptical myself; there's only so much you can do from a throw-in situation.
There are a lot of interviews with Gronnemark on TH-cam. Keep an open mind and watch them. If your team can weaponize throw-ins in a match, it can result in a lot of goals.
Nicol is completely correct, that throw in coach is smoke and mirrors from Klopp. It does absolutely positively nothing. Players win games, simple as. Anything else is an illusion
who knows more from coaching stand point a failed mls coach or a champions league winner??? that's a tough one
@@koki84ji7 Stop twisting it to fill your agenda
Small Shaq Well there’s a reason why Klopp keeps him around.
Jorgeflo7 mate Stevie is a epl title winner, twice FA cup winner you muppet. So before you call him a failure tel us what your done with your life
Love your avatar, miss that guy. SADIO 🔥
It's rare for me to agree with Stevie, but in this instance he is correct. He played at the very highest level, was player of the season in England, was a respected international and won domestic and European trophies. This so called throw in specialist is obviously bitter that he is being criticised and to aim such low shots shows a lack of class and respect. He isn't at all convincing when expressing himself so maybe he should just shut up and accept that he has won the equivalent of the football lottery in landing a job like this
Keep an open mind and watch interviews of Thomas Gronnemark on TH-cam. It is absolutely insightful on what you can bring into the game just via throw-in and if your team can weaponize your throw-ins, your team can do wonders in a game of fine-margins.
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They played it twice just to get the vid to 10 minutes smh. ESPN money hungry
They played it twice just to get the vid to 10 minutes smh. ESPN money hungry