What rotors did you end up using? I am wanting to do this to my 8th gen. I already have new StopTech sport rotors that I hadn't installed yet, can I use them or would I have to upgrade to the TSX or the s2k rotor like shown here?
@@setunedouche thanks for the reply. Guess I'll be trying to sell the front rotors I have to get some new front. Did you swap out to the TL master cylinder?
@@estewar03 I didn’t and everything works beautifully. I have zero complaints. I noticed a significant improvement in front braking performance for sure! I’m using Evo10 MR BBS wheels on mine and they clear the Brembos by far…. Plenty of room. 👍
Same , im getting ready to do this setup this weekend …is it significantly better stopping than the oem setup ? Also does it matter which side I bleed first ? And as far as I can tell the s2000 rotors are identical diameter to the si so is there any benefits of using them im not aware of … thanks man , great video
@@mpkkirk How'd it work out for you? I am considering this as well and already have brand new StopTech sport rotors for my 8th gen. if I can use these rotors I already have I'd just have to source some good calipers. LMK, thanks.
An old mechanic trick that has saved me many times. Try using a hammer to beat the top of screwdriver couple times to shock loosen the rotor screws or any bolt for that matter. Be warned the plastic handle of screwdriver might break, but it will help to loosen the screws.
Much needed demo, thanks for the walk-through. One question in 2 parts, what are the size differences between the stock rotor and the s2k rotor, and what is the clearance difference from the stock caliper to the BBK caliper? (in mm if you can) thanks again for the video.
No difference between the stock rotor and the s2000 rotor. There will be pad overhand with the s2000 rotor. The ideal way to do this swap is with a spacer behind the rotor and a TL-S Rotor. The stock and s2000 rotors are both 300mm. I do not know the size difference between stock and TL-S calipers.
Micah Myricks The information you’re providing is inaccurate. The S2k and stock rotors are not same. Just because the diameter is the same, doesn’t mean they’re the same. The rotors have different offsets. Also, for TL-S rotors, you need extended studs to be safe.
Hey man, I logged in to try to send you a message but couldn’t so I figured I’d leave a comment. This looks awesome and I’m glad you put this vid up. I soon plan on swapping on TL-S Brembos that I’m having refinished. I am eventually going to go with you described as Option #2, w/ the spacers and studs and all TL-S parts. But, for now I am thinking about using Option #1 as a temporary solution. When I go to switch over to Option #2, I’ll be replacing my Master cylinder as well for more fluid movement. My questions are: -What do you think about the overhang on the S2K rotors? Is it minimal enough to not really worry about, because I do push my 07 FA5 pretty hard. -If you’re using the OEM reservoir (and I know your car is a 9th, not an 8th), how did the brake pedal feel and the operation overall work? Any sloppiness? Just wanted to talk to someone who has done this! I can send you my contact info if needed, thanks bro!
Sorry for the delay in response! Anyways... 1. The overhang isn’t much of an issue. Currently have well over 10k miles on the setup now, and no issues. That includes hard braking. At low speeds like backing out of the driveway you can hear a slight squeak. Of course using different brake compounds will be the biggest variable, though I’ve never heard of anyone having major issues other than noise. 2. So the car in the video is actually my wife’s 9th gen, I have a 8th (still factory calipers). Anyways, she didn’t really notice much difference in the pedal. I did notice the pedal has to travel a little further, but nothing to be concerned about. The car overall stops better, and the pedal travel isn’t much more than stock. I would feel comfortable taking it as is to a track day. Any other questions just let me know, and I can give you my FB info. Hope that helps!
Hey man, wow thanks for these answers! I do feel a lot better about it now. And yeah I think I’ll get your FB info just to check some stuff along the way!
Option 2... what year TL-S rotors? Also what year TL-S calipers.? Great video, just need exact years to the parts your using. Thanks for giving a great diy on this.!!
Hi, im using a civic 8th gen, i recently bought a fd2r brembo and s2k rotors, The installer used a spacer inside the rotor for the caliper aligned to the rotor
Great video bro, I also have a quick question, I just got a set of rpf1 black like yours, but I love your red center cap, could you point me to where I could purchase those ? I'm searching for some center caps. My wheels are Enkei RPF1 Black (17x8) +35 (5x114.3) thanks.
This video is for the whole caliper, not covers. Either way, if you’re just wanting covers, it would depend on the size of the covers. You can always trim them down.
Never had to, hasn’t changed since installing the calipers and doesn’t affect the stopping power. Though when I drive my 8th Gen Si, I can definitely tell the pedal travel difference compared to my wife’s 9th with the Brembos. In my opinion, it’s just preference. I wouldn’t be afraid to go on a track day as is.
I found a set of tl-s calipers for 187 on Amazon. What's the length of the bolts? I know they are m14x1. 5. But don't want to buy a set too short or too long.
Has anybody got a link for these or wilwood calipers? I prefer the way they look, obviously performance is good but i just got some Enkei RPF1s and i want some good looking calipers behind them. But i cannot find either brand at all for the 2013 civic si...
Negative. TL-S rotors need a spacer behind them and recommended extended studs. The S2K rotors fit perfect, but are a smaller diameter causing slight pad overhang. Not a big deal with the overhang, but the pads will develop a lip overtime and start squeaking/squealing. You’ll just need to take the pads out and grind the lips down every once in a while.
I wouldn’t see what not other than the master cylinder might be smaller on the Lx than the Si. I know the stock Si brakes are bigger than the Ex, Lx, etc. With the Brembos the pedal on the Si does travel a bit further, but isn’t an issue.
Idk about the FB6 yet (planning on it), but I know the FA5 it bolts right in, just need to swap the reservoir from what I’ve read. I assume it should be the same for FB6, or at least very similar.
I would assume so, but couldn’t be 100%. I know people with base auto 3rd gens just swap out the whole knuckle from a 6-spd base/Type S since it all just simple bolts in.
I did this conversion on my 12 Si and it’s definitely worth it. Much better pedal feel. Your tutorial helped me get everything I needed. Thank You!!!
Thank you for the feedback! It’s nice to know the video helps.
What rotors did you end up using? I am wanting to do this to my 8th gen. I already have new StopTech sport rotors that I hadn't installed yet, can I use them or would I have to upgrade to the TSX or the s2k rotor like shown here?
@@estewar03 I used S2K rotors.
@@setunedouche thanks for the reply. Guess I'll be trying to sell the front rotors I have to get some new front. Did you swap out to the TL master cylinder?
@@estewar03 I didn’t and everything works beautifully. I have zero complaints. I noticed a significant improvement in front braking performance for sure! I’m using Evo10 MR BBS wheels on mine and they clear the Brembos by far…. Plenty of room. 👍
Damn I’ve been waiting for a video like this forever for this Hondas !!
Hope it helps!
Loved it you literally answered all the questions I’ve been having! Thank you so much for this video!
You’re welcome! Thanks for the positive feedback!
Same , im getting ready to do this setup this weekend …is it significantly better stopping than the oem setup ? Also does it matter which side I bleed first ? And as far as I can tell the s2000 rotors are identical diameter to the si so is there any benefits of using them im not aware of … thanks man , great video
@@mpkkirk How'd it work out for you? I am considering this as well and already have brand new StopTech sport rotors for my 8th gen. if I can use these rotors I already have I'd just have to source some good calipers. LMK, thanks.
Youuuu are the best wowow best video in youtube of TL bbk for that. 9th gen I put my👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks! I appreciate the feedback!
Extremely handy video, thanks for taking the time to learn and share.
You’re welcome! Thank you for the positive feedback!
An old mechanic trick that has saved me many times. Try using a hammer to beat the top of screwdriver couple times to shock loosen the rotor screws or any bolt for that matter. Be warned the plastic handle of screwdriver might break, but it will help to loosen the screws.
What rim/tire specs do you have? Looking forward to doing this but I want to be sure there’s enough clearance to do this swap.
Much needed demo, thanks for the walk-through. One question in 2 parts, what are the size differences between the stock rotor and the s2k rotor, and what is the clearance difference from the stock caliper to the BBK caliper? (in mm if you can)
thanks again for the video.
I honestly couldn’t tell you other than there’s a huge difference. Lol.
No difference between the stock rotor and the s2000 rotor. There will be pad overhand with the s2000 rotor. The ideal way to do this swap is with a spacer behind the rotor and a TL-S Rotor. The stock and s2000 rotors are both 300mm.
I do not know the size difference between stock and TL-S calipers.
Micah Myricks The information you’re providing is inaccurate. The S2k and stock rotors are not same. Just because the diameter is the same, doesn’t mean they’re the same. The rotors have different offsets. Also, for TL-S rotors, you need extended studs to be safe.
Pretty cool. Can't wait to do mine.
Hey man, I logged in to try to send you a message but couldn’t so I figured I’d leave a comment. This looks awesome and I’m glad you put this vid up.
I soon plan on swapping on TL-S Brembos that I’m having refinished. I am eventually going to go with you described as Option #2, w/ the spacers and studs and all TL-S parts.
But, for now I am thinking about using Option #1 as a temporary solution. When I go to switch over to Option #2, I’ll be replacing my Master cylinder as well for more fluid movement.
My questions are:
-What do you think about the overhang on the S2K rotors? Is it minimal enough to not really worry about, because I do push my 07 FA5 pretty hard.
-If you’re using the OEM reservoir (and I know your car is a 9th, not an 8th), how did the brake pedal feel and the operation overall work? Any sloppiness?
Just wanted to talk to someone who has done this! I can send you my contact info if needed, thanks bro!
Sorry for the delay in response!
Anyways...
1. The overhang isn’t much of an issue. Currently have well over 10k miles on the setup now, and no issues. That includes hard braking. At low speeds like backing out of the driveway you can hear a slight squeak. Of course using different brake compounds will be the biggest variable, though I’ve never heard of anyone having major issues other than noise.
2. So the car in the video is actually my wife’s 9th gen, I have a 8th (still factory calipers). Anyways, she didn’t really notice much difference in the pedal. I did notice the pedal has to travel a little further, but nothing to be concerned about. The car overall stops better, and the pedal travel isn’t much more than stock. I would feel comfortable taking it as is to a track day.
Any other questions just let me know, and I can give you my FB info. Hope that helps!
Hey man, wow thanks for these answers! I do feel a lot better about it now. And yeah I think I’ll get your FB info just to check some stuff along the way!
Option 2... what year TL-S rotors? Also what year TL-S calipers.? Great video, just need exact years to the parts your using. Thanks for giving a great diy on this.!!
Those are from 07-08 tl type s or 04-06 tl 6speed came with those calipers
I need an installation guide for those projector housings you got on the si unless if that's stock. And thanks for this guide too!
They’re Asian headlights, so you just take out the out headlights and put these in. I did have to buy some wiring adapters though.
Hi, thank you for sharing the video, question does it need upgraded master cylinder to run this caliper setup or no?
Hello! It’s not required, ran this setup for over a year without any issues.
@@BSD_Productions thank you.
What year s2000 rotors ? And is there that much of a difference
Hi, im using a civic 8th gen, i recently bought a fd2r brembo and s2k rotors,
The installer used a spacer inside the rotor for the caliper aligned to the rotor
What size flared nut wrench did u use for the brake line? Was it 11mm?
Great video bro, I also have a quick question, I just got a set of rpf1 black like yours, but I love your red center cap, could you point me to where I could purchase those ? I'm searching for some center caps. My wheels are Enkei RPF1 Black (17x8) +35 (5x114.3) thanks.
I bought factory Accord center caps (can’t remember which years exactly), and painted matte black and bought the decals.
So to ve clear if i use a s2k rotor i dont need to buy a spacer for the rotors?
Nice video man!! I have a question im setting up the Brembo caliper covers, does it matter if I have 16” rings? Thanks in advance
This video is for the whole caliper, not covers. Either way, if you’re just wanting covers, it would depend on the size of the covers. You can always trim them down.
Hi , what are the wheel specs I see you use a 15mm spacer thanks
What wheel setup were you running for wheels?
So, any issues so far? Do you track or do you have heavy street use?
She upgraded to a Type R, but never had issues with it. Had some hard street use without problems.
Hey man you can use a wrench that fits the screwdriver’s handle instead
Do I use S2K pads or TLS pads? It’s a brembo style caliper so I don’t think it would matter.
TL-S
What’s your wheel specs?
great vid !!!
Thanks!
Nice video bro!! 👏👍
Thanks!!!!!
Can you use drilled and slotted rotors after doing the conversion? I’ve seen almost everyone that does the conversion with the plain rotors.
Yes, you can if you want.
Great video! Needed this.
Thanks!
where can I buy the kit?
Hi can i ask you?I have a Honda fd1 i bought brembo calipers from Dc5 and i have the ep3 rims.What i need to put it on my car?
Did you ever fix the problem with the brake pedals going down further?
Never had to, hasn’t changed since installing the calipers and doesn’t affect the stopping power. Though when I drive my 8th Gen Si, I can definitely tell the pedal travel difference compared to my wife’s 9th with the Brembos. In my opinion, it’s just preference. I wouldn’t be afraid to go on a track day as is.
Hey i brought the brembos from a 2007 acura type S and now I want to get the s2k rotors ? Do they have to be oem or aftermarket s2k rotor will work ?
OEM or aftermarket will work. Technically the Brembo rotors are aftermarket anyways.
Will 18x8.5 +35 wheel fit the calipers?
what year if TL-S brakes did you get to fit an 8th gen si?and they would fit witha 17x9 +35?
I’ve been wondering this as well
This was an excellent video! if ppl did better videos for the 10th gen ! man id be good
Thanks! Have a 10th Gen Type R now, but been too busy to make videos for it unfortunately.
Are the bolts the ones that came off the actual tl type s? Or are those aftermarket?
They’re off a TL Type-S, but you can buy them new. And a good price of a set of calipers is about $300, though you can find them for less.
I found a set of tl-s calipers for 187 on Amazon. What's the length of the bolts? I know they are m14x1. 5. But don't want to buy a set too short or too long.
Using the hyundai genesis brembo calipers no need to drill to make the holes bigger.
Those were nearly impossible to find when I did this video. Seems like the Genesis calipers are getting easier to find now.
Has anybody got a link for these or wilwood calipers? I prefer the way they look, obviously performance is good but i just got some Enkei RPF1s and i want some good looking calipers behind them. But i cannot find either brand at all for the 2013 civic si...
Solid video
Hey so whats the total off set for rims thanks
what’s the brake bias like with the sliders in the back?
Did you reuse the OEM Civic banjo bolt?
he didnt but it is not necessary to replace it
You can without issues. I just used the ones that came with steel braided lines since they were new with washers.
Bro, please give me a link where I can buy calipers. Thanks
Junkyard or on Facebook man.
What site did you buy the rotors and calipers?
eBay for the rotors, but from a reputable seller unless you don’t care of the brand. The calipers I got used.
hi im planning to do the same swap. s2k rotors are the same as tl-s rotors?
Negative. TL-S rotors need a spacer behind them and recommended extended studs. The S2K rotors fit perfect, but are a smaller diameter causing slight pad overhang. Not a big deal with the overhang, but the pads will develop a lip overtime and start squeaking/squealing. You’ll just need to take the pads out and grind the lips down every once in a while.
Thx bro that was easy
You’re welcome, glad I could help man!
Amazing video !!!!!
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽💯
What size are the rims
This works on non SI version of the 8th gen? I have an LX.
I wouldn’t see what not other than the master cylinder might be smaller on the Lx than the Si. I know the stock Si brakes are bigger than the Ex, Lx, etc. With the Brembos the pedal on the Si does travel a bit further, but isn’t an issue.
Do you have the video on where to remove the squeak?
Not yet. It currently only does it in reverse. I’ll have a video soon.
@@BSD_Productions Thanks!
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Did you have to change your master cylinder
Nope. Still running stock, and it’s fine. Over 10k miles on setup.
Will this setup fit under the prelude 5 16inch wheels?
I don’t have a definite answer, but being a 16 inch I highly doubt it anyways.
What offset are youre wheels?
What year s2k rotors . I do know 99-02 they used I believe 300mm and 03 and up they used 282 mm
00-09 USDM S2000’s have 300mm which I used. I don’t know the specifics non-US S2Ks.
What about your wheels specs ?I have the same wheels and want to know what size spacer o should get
@@vibindoe5270 He used 15mm
Any info on using the TL type s brake master will bolt up to fb6?
Idk about the FB6 yet (planning on it), but I know the FA5 it bolts right in, just need to swap the reservoir from what I’ve read. I assume it should be the same for FB6, or at least very similar.
What size wheel spacers did you use?
15mm
Why s2k rotor?is the stock rotor not gonna fit on brembo caliper?
Stock rotors are way too small.
Thank you !
Do you need 18" rims? Does this calipers fit in 17"? rims (si 8th gen oem)
You’ll need spacers to fit 17” OEM wheels. The RPF1’s that were used were 17’s.
@@BSD_Productionswhat spec I am wondering to put genesis brembo to my 8th gen but I got 17x8 45 with 5mm spacers on it.
Where did you get those center caps for the rpf1s
They’re OEM Honda center caps I painted to match and bought the decals.
what offset on rpf1s should i run? i plan on buying 17x9 for my 8th gen
None of the 17x9 RPF1s will clear TL-S brakes. They will all need spacers to clear
@@milanmastracci ive seen alot of people run +22 offset that seems to work. i have an 8th gen not 9th
link on the bremboo and the brake lines?
It’s been so long I can’t remember, but you can find them anywhere online. Pretty sure I bought the lines off of HPTautosport.com though.
does this apply to the rear brakes too?
Negative
Can you use 2005 and up acura rl calipers do you know?
I know people have, but idk the differences in the parts needed and the process.
Wheels size!! Pls
Would this work on 10th gen non SI?
Nope
will this work on a Acura TL 3rd gen?
I would assume so, but couldn’t be 100%. I know people with base auto 3rd gens just swap out the whole knuckle from a 6-spd base/Type S since it all just simple bolts in.
Whats a good price for the used calipers?
$350 or less. Make sure the mounting threads aren’t stripped which is very common.
@@BSD_Productions thank you is it easy to see if they thread
@@BSD_Productions do you think this coule be done with the aftermarket replacement like cardone? Or would that be different?
Where do you find the mounting bolts for the caliper
I had used ones. You can find them online.
@@BSD_Productions I found m14x1.5 but was the bolts a size 30 in length
The only thing I cant do in this is seeing if my wheel fit lol
Do you have an IG account
Family Tuned I do, but it’s mostly diesel related. The Civic in the video is my wife’s anyways. Lol.
With stock wheels you think you'll need a spacer bigger then 15mm?
I honestly don’t know, but I’m assuming more than likely.
20 mm
What size spacer did you use?
Had to use 15mm with the wheel setup. Will eventually get different wheels.
Would this work on r18 models
Yes, though you may need to change the master cylinder. Not sure how much of a difference between the Si and lower trims.
What’s the offset on the wheels and the spacer
+45 and 15mm spacers
would these caliper fit the stock 9th gen blade wheels?
You’ll need spacers.
@@BSD_Productions would you know what size ?
Unfortunately I do not for blades.