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I'm glad you're covering more recent and controversial topics like Afghanistan. Iraq next, please! Then maybe the Syrian civil war, and the war on terror in general.
@@TheArmchairHistorian Oooorrahh! Let's hope it'll stay like that on this and your next videos. You've got my respect for still going, doing all this hard work (including animators, etc).
the Taliban never refused to hand over Bin Laden or to attempt dispelling Al-Qaeda, Bush refused their terms and the Taliban had been attempting to dispel Al-Qaeda for years, particularly after the embassies were attacked in the 90's.
Yes. After knowing this fact, I wander if US had not invaded Afghanistan and Iraq spending trillions for a President to play war hero, would US have less problems at home. The sad things is nothing good came out of it for the people of Afghanistan. They are just as poor and corrupt during and after the US occupation and the inevitable death of thousands of civilians caught in the cross fire.
I’m more worried they’ll just send it to Russia or some other country to clone it. China already copied the Blackhawk with their Z-20. They could make it even closer to the original with the original in Afghanistan.
I feel that around 7:15 to 7:55 perfectly sums up why the USA failed as miserably as it did. This is going to be one awkward 9/11 memorial for America.
@@azmanabdula I remember watching their ww2, ww1, Vietnam and other war documentaries. It was a real interesting watch when I was a kid, now the History channel is trying to be like a&e, and it sucks hugely.
@@octavianpopescu4776 this is true but its different. The taliban offered no resistance because its the US, if it was some other warlord or something they would have fought. while the afghan army, I really dont know why they didn't do something to try and hold the city, they outnumbered the taliban like 3-1
How could Taliban showed resistance when Americans us their airforce and launch airstrikes with so many nato countries involve,taliban did show resistance,all the airstrike kill many taliban,civilians,houses,kids,woman,young and old,Americans attack their weapons,it take many many years for taliban to regroup and emerge stronger and become victorious,today they won,no special force of usa,uk or any nato can stop the taliban,it is not fall of kabul but the fall of America,no sas,no delta force can stop Taliban from taking over
I was deployed in Afghanistan, spent some time in Sangin Valley and met a Gunnery Sergeant who was there advising Afghan soldiers. He told me how he fought to take control of this same valley almost a decade ago as a young Lance Corporal, and here we are again in the same valley retaken by the Taliban to fight again.
That's a very infantile perspective you have there regarding foreign affairs. Most people in that valley don't give a crap about you or I or the taliban. They just want to be left alone to live out their lives. How does gassing their land help us exactly?
@Lordtrainwreck Shinehorn so we should kill everyone with a gun to stop potential school shooters? Cause that's the same as the solution your implying.
@Lordtrainwreck Shinehorn that's just plain fucked up and childish. So what if they are foreigners they are still human beings that have done nothing wrong
The "Uyghur re-education camps" are today's "big lie". Vocational education and training centers in which young people are taught job skills in addition to the national language and Chinese law are being construed as "concentration camps" by the same media companies that pushed the narrative of Saddam's "WMDs", of Kuwaiti babies being "taken out of incubators" by Iraqi soldiers and left to die. The US fears China's rise and wants to do everything in its power to sabotage China. I'm not going to be very popular posting this now, but in 20 years history will prove me correct. Ever wonder why China has allegedly been doing this for decades, yet we've only started hearing about this since mid-2018? This is why; it's 90% disinformation and 10% truth. Please, I urge you to look into this. Here's a good video on the matter. th-cam.com/video/v_XI-aiCa34/w-d-xo.html
don`t even try to be "informed", better to be true to your own thoughts. you gonna be just more misinformed, not informed. so you get the feeling of not missing out if you just don't listen to the radio or watch tv anymore, wich is messing you up anyway. trust me. am a 32 year old guy that discovered there is no "truth" in history, it`s more like storytelling I guess
@@kimilsungia7507 If that's true then China can show and tell us everything about the camps. They won't, probably because they're not really re-education centers.
Peace be upon you. Greetings from the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan from Afghanistan. Greetings to all of you. My message to the world. Who wants good relations with us, we Afghans are welcome. Or whoever wants to approach our country or occupy it, we will bury him there as we buried Britain, the Russians and America. We are a nation that loves death as you love life. Our nation, our religion, Islam is number one, our dignity, freedom and honor number two, so we are 40 years old fighting for the independence of our country and the freedom of our nation. No one plays with us Afghans because he will regret itcemetery of empires
@dachicagoan I wonder where this notion that leftists hate history came from. Of course it's a right wing distortion. And its implications are apparent enough. But it's always interesting to see such a similar talking point arise in so many different contexts. Unfortunately for you, your recitation of this argument is less sophisticated than most I've seen. People have specifically claimed that Marx fundamentally misunderstood history, which is a claim more worthy of examination than this third-rate parroting on display here.
Nice video bro. Me being an afghan I can tell you got 95% of the History right, the only things you missed are that 1: Pakistan Never stopped helping the Taliban, Pakistan is helping the Taliban till the present day 2: America was never 100% in control, a few years after Karzai came to power Taliban controlled 50% of Afghanistan mainly southern parts 3: opium production continued after the American invasion but this time the profit split between western forces and the Taliban.
It was the us and pakistan who killed doctor najeeb and this is what is happening afghanistan suffers most of pakistan suffers except punjab while the US a d pakistani high officials have their pockets warm
@Rafael yes it was taliban but taliban were backed by US and pakistan and in an interview with a talib who was with mullah omar he said clearly that we had orders from mullah omar to surround dr najeeb's house and not to do any harm to him or his family but as we went there dr najeeb was already dead they had killed him placed a bottle of wine in his hand and were dragging him and according to that talib the only one that can benefit from dr najeebs death except taliban was pakistan because he was against pakistan
I am an Afghan and I was an interpreter for U.S Army special forces in Afghanistan for 11 years, I witnessed most of the crazy things that happened in my country. After 19 years of conflicts and spending trillion dollars, Afghanistan is in a worse situation than 2001 before the invasion.
Do you prefer the USSR era of Afghanistan? Or do you support the americans in the soviet afghan war? Would like to hear it from you :) Note: im not russian, I am turkish
@@Slybaby420 And may I ask why that is? Because afghanistan was very modern, at least compared to after-war, and is was developing, in terms of human rights as well, no? Do you really think a US that supports jihadists is better? Thanks for the reply, I am interested
OVER 31,000 Afghan civilians lost their lives from this conflict, not something that should be overlooked Edit: This comment thread blew up more than I expected
Four points: 1)The Northern Alliance was in danger of failing after Massoud's death, and the Taliban had been pretty clear that they weren't going to respect international borders. The Taliban never truly ruled all of Afghanistan, just like Karzai's government also only had nominal power. It was their solidifying of power and threatening the borders of post-Soviet Central Asia that changed the situation. This is also why Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan provided bases to the US (also those governments like money too) and even Russia initially supported the invasion, because they had just gotten out of Chechnya and the civil war in Tajikistan so they were not wanting to have to intervene in Tajikistan again two years later. The potential existential threat to the world order and the realities of life under taliban rule were reasons why a broad coalition of NATO nations were involved in Afghanistan, unlike in Iraq where pretty much only the UK followed the US. While September 11th provided an excuse and made the war popular, I do not believe September 11th was the reason that the US invaded Afghanistan. Someone was going to do it, and taking care of Bin Laden would have been easier without a full-scale invasion. (Likewise the resolution to basically have the Iraq War happen and get rid of Saddam Hussein was passed in 1998 by congress as I recall, and Clinton bombed them in 1999.). Whatever September 11th was, it was mostly useful for propaganda purposes...it was not a strategic reason for waging these wars, at least not beyond special forces and drone wars. 2)ISI was divided internally as well: Pakistan's foreign policy is pretty clear though: India bad, do everything to keep India from getting any military advantage. Painting ISI as a monolith here...like painting Karzai's government or the Taliban as a single faction...fails to capture the complexities, since often certain leaders would act on their own...some aiding the US, some lying to the US, some actively undermining the US the whole time. There were numerous times where Bin Laden's Arab Taliban fell afoul of local sympathies as well...for example some of their number were killed after they destroyed graves...which...because of the old Sufi influence and even pre-dating Islam (I mean, Turkmenistan/Uzbekistan are the "home" of the bones of Adam and Mary according to the stories), graves being important is something that goes way back in the region. 3)For the people saying, "what did the US have to gain?" Markets for US products and raw materials for its companies. That's true of any invasion anywhere always, from Russia in Ukraine right now to Chingiz Khan. Also, at the time the US was expanding its power and influence in the Middle East, the former Soviet Union, and Central Asia. For many in the old guard from the USSR and the USA the cold war never ended, and many in the US have been quite eager to support color revolutions, Arab Spring, the expansion of NATO, and other expansions to their spheres of influence and profit. 4)When you create a "democracy" from the top down and flood it with millions in dollars in aid money, the result is inevitable: deep-rooted corruption, nepotism, and a government that will be dependent on aid money rather than for and by the people. The three million dollars to fight shows how the US ran this war and what happened after. That kind of leadership breeds resentment, not loyalty.
TL:DR 1. Somebody was going to invade, 9/11 was an excuse at best 2: ISI was fractured and any information from them is shaky at best 3: The US had both political and financial motive to invade 4: The “democracy” we established was never going to succeed
For point 3, the US managed to make Afghanistan buy US weapons using its own taxpayer money and the occupation also created opportunities for military contractors to make profits.
As I am watching this the President of Afghanistan has fled and The Taliban have won, still comprehending the fact that we went to war for 20 years for no reason.
Wouldn't say for no reason the US did accomplish things. The Taliban takeover was always going to happen when US operations ended no matter what it should be no surprise simply because the loyalty and bravery of the Afghan National Army is practically non existent. Full of corruption and people you would never be able to rely on.
@@Adeel2424 hope Taliban will repay by gifts and booty. Pakistan will be thrown like a use and throw pen as it serves no use. Taliban will definitely repay Pakistan, just wait.
It's so weird hearing all these names and places I heard all the time as a kid, without knowing what they really were about, finally put into their proper context. Great video dude.
Imagine being that one Taliban soldier in interrogation ''Where are the rest of your regiment?'' ''They said they saw something cool and would be back in a minute'
@Vladimir makarov oh so you cherrypick cases now? by taking one of the worst lucky shots taliban had on US copters with soldiers on board? yeah the problem is thats not the common case we have, in nearly all other cases it is taliban who lost fighters to the US-Afghan forces what? did you tune in your news channel only when that copter got downed then tune it off again clueless of any other fights against the taliban?
@Vladimir makarov I'm not sure you could say that America "lost." Suppressing a foreign regime, and making sure your own puppet is in charge, is not "losing." Sure, occupying Afghanistan was uncomfortable for both American troops and not least for "public opinion," but in the end they solved the mission. I'd call that a "win" personally, though it has elements of a phyrric victory. Albeit not in allied _lives_ lost, but in esteem and honour lost by the American government and people. This is where we learned that America is no longer the land of the free, and that they are just as ruthless and top-heavy as nations we don't normally like to compare ourselves with...
Americans were keenly aware of this loss of honour, and perhaps that is their biggest loss to date, because being faced with people criticizing them on every corner of the world can't be easy for a people who identify themselves as a bastion of opportunity, democracy and freedom. It is for _that_ reason Trump won so many votes simply by having a slogan saying "Make America Great Again". I mean, obviously America is "Great" as in a nation to be feared for their military power, but no American really wants to be feared. Americans wants to be loved, like they were in most of the world in the 50's and 60's (with the notable exception of the Communist nations).
R.i.P to the 2,996 people died in 9/11 R.I.P to 1,455,590 Muslims died during the US invasion for something they didn’t do Who is the actual Oppressor or terrorist ?
You forgot to mention us backing up taliban in the 80’s and calling them “freedom fighters “ as allies against communist russia. But you reap what you sow.
When you fund a terrorist group to get rid of a terrorist group you funded to get rid of a terrorist group you funded to get rid of a terrorist group you funded to get rid of a terrorist group you funded to get rid of a terrorist group you funded
Two totally different groups, but I can see how the uneducated people would not know the difference. You have to be able to read, before you can read history.
@@MarzaButTube yo dawg I heard you like proxy wars so we got you a proxy war to put in your proxy war so you can be fighting a proxy war while you're fighting a proxy war
"In July 2000, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, collaborating with the UN to eradicate heroin production in Afghanistan, declared that growing poppies was un-Islamic, resulting in one of the world's most successful anti-drug campaigns"
Yeah that's just muller Omar, now the taliban are the world's biggest opiom producer, the taliban love their opiom/heroin business, remember the taliban control helmand province and they love all those poppies🤑🤑🤑
@@alexcope8142 That's Western Propaganda, While the US gets all the profit of Heroin/Opium production. Tell me Who smuggle drugs to Europe & America? Talibans or America?
I'm loving these videos sir! I wish I could have found them sooner lol. Looking back, I wish I'd went in historical order, but I've corrected the mistake and I'm off and running lol. Thank you for the education!
My father went to high school in a very small town with a guy that became a journalist. In the 80’s that guy traveled with Bin Laden and interviewed him while they were fighting the Soviets. Days after 9/11 the FBI was knocking on his door. 10 years later I was at a combat outpost near the Pakistani border and got the message that Bin Laden was killed. Crazy.
At the end of Rambo III, the film makers thank the "galant afghan people". A few years later: "Afghans are evil! Let´s kill´em!!" Isn´t it odd how perceptions change, when they encounter the lean mean US propaganda machine? In a few years, the US population went from "galant afghans" to "slaughter them".
@@Biden_is_demented well, your reasoning is slightly true, but not really. The Afghans were fighting the Soviets, and as the Cold War was basically a huge series of proxy wars, the US backed "Afghan" militia groups (Reagan even dedicated a space shuttle launch to the Afghan people and their struggle against "oppression" (the Soviets)). The problem was that the US funded an awful lot of random militant groups (including, obviously, Bin Laden's gang), and like the Soviets warned, after the Afghan mujahideen drove them out, the US's policy would allow the "worst forms of Islamism to rise up"...and ~10 years later, we had 9/11 (somewhat simplistically put). But you must also remember that Afghanistan back in the mid-20th Century was actually a place the US and UK were pouring money in to to create an almost "satellite state" - it was very much a bit of a utopia for many families of western diplomats, other government workers, and construction/logistics enterprises. They were basically trying to set up a franchise out there... There was a huge hydro dam project built out there, can't remember the name of the American company that built it, but there was a lot of hope for Afghanistan.
@@bazil83 "your reasoning is slightly true, but not really." Your diatribe is slightly relevant, but not really. How is that attempt at a history class proving or rebuking anything i said?? It is a fact that americans were sucking up to the afghans during the USSR invasion, and it is also true the american people moved from loving them to death, to just killing them to death. So, your point is...?
Afghanistan falls to Taliban KABUL-Taliban fighters on Sunday entered Kabul, triggering a massive effort to airlift Western diplomats and civilians as the country’s demoralized security forces offered no resistance. - The Wall Street Journal, August 15, 2021
Not sure what it is, but Kabul seems to be falling under the attacking force's control fairly easily every time it is mentioned, as well as recently. Something about the city's layout must be making it difficult to defend.
The video I uploaded yesterday that was 40 minutes long was a rant on live-stream, not the actual video. This video is unedited from the original version.
Exactly. Notice how ISIS is driving Ford and Chevy pickup trucks. Its and excuse to go to war so that the oil fields can be secure. Why do you think America hates Iran? Because they figured this out in the 50s unlike Saudi.
@@daddykun7709 The mujahideen fought Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban, even if that was a failure and eventually created the circumstances in which the Taliban seized control of Aghanistan, that doesnt mean the US created the Taliban
Not for nothing!! For control and greed! Americans are blind to the fact that there Goverment is the biggest cartel on earth! They use our military to get whatever they want? Mainly they want to control the world! Goverment has been hiding the truth and lieing to its citizens!
@@christiyoung8689 biggest cartel on Earth lol. When the Taliban implement the same rule they had in the 90s, and Women are back to not being allowed to have an education in Afghanistan, and hobbies are banned, owning pets are banned, and anyone who stands against that is murdered, remember to tell yourself the US were the bad guys. When America was sending emergency UN food supplies to hundreds of thousands of Afghans in the 90s but being denied by the Taliban and people were starving who was the cartel there in that situation? Take off your tin foil hat.
911 was done by Bush anyway it was inside job as an excuse to invade Afghanistan and Iraq and cause conflict and civil war while stealing valuable resources and heroin blood money is one of the most profitable for war CIA are working with afghan warlords and drug lords in the opium trade
As a Middle-Easterner, I feel the Americans are being over-dramatic about 9/11. I get that it's a tragedy, but, come on, it's just two towers. If you combine all the bricks of all the destroyed buildings in the Middle East (or the US occupation of Iraq alone), you'd have enough bricks to build more than 10 World Trade Centres.
@Rajeev Vij 9/11 conspiracies make sense, given that fake reasons were used for the invasion of Iraq. You can take the easy step and just say "lol u beliv erth flat lol" too, your choice.
I figure that they figured the best they could do is keep any civilians from stealing their stuff, but if an army showed up it was a lost cause anyway.
As I write this , the last US military air craft has left Afghanistan with the Taliban in charge of the country once more. America has lost another pointless war.
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Your way of explaining with graphics, the background info you give and your clear English with a calm voice make it for a non-English speaker easy to understand. Thanks so much, Super!
@@thaeldir8923 This video presents no threat to the owners of theirtube because it follows the official narrative. Now if you want to see a historical video that's a threat to our overlords you'll have to watch the most forbidden documentary ever published and pulled down from theirtube countless times since its 2017 release: "Europa The Last Battle". Watch the full 10-part series at archive-dot-org while you still can!
Most stories are. It's our job as viewers to recognize just that. Considering this is only 20min, I think it does a great job, at trying to explain this one dimension. "Historical reasons, why catching Bin Laden, and removing the Taliban failed in Afghanistan".
As A Danish Helmand veteran, who went to your country, to protect you and your countrymen from oppression. I'd say, I failed, my government failed, and the international community failed. I am truly sorry. I wish I could do more. I wish my countries leaders would do more, rather then just saying 'Mission failed'.
The main takeaway from this video, that I think is of historic relevance is. That the Americans, British initially, and ISAF in the long run. Didn't understand the culture and history of Afghanistan, hence could never succeed at their goal, unless being fully committed for the long game. Which history shows, none of them were. As an addition that the video doesn't touch. Forcing your own ideals, in this case western, on a completely different society, will cause tension with the local populace. Which probably isn't what you'd want, during an armed conflict, where you could be seen as the aggressor.
Damn! As soon as I heard that sound I went to the comments to see if someone else had pointed it out. Just the sound gives me flashbacks to sitting in the middle of the living room playing through the campaign over and over again.
Just discovered this channel! I love the visuals and detail. Very well narrated. Respect to all who fought and those fallen to both sides. Edit: all sides (obviously wasn't just the US and Afghans)
Afghanistan is a mess because of its ethnic tensions, religious extremism, and the over all shitty geography that doesn’t lend well to great infrastructure
3:08 You missed the most crucial part here. The Afghans follow the Pathan Code of Honour which puts special emphasis on being faithful to those that once helped you. This means that while many Afghans may have had disagreements over Usama's actions, they were honour bound to die defending him regardless. This adds a very interesting perspective on their motivations and paints them all in a more nuanced light
@@VintageVoid3 yes but Pashtuns are the main ethnicity group and the most populated in Afghanistan they were also the ones that fought for the Afghan empire against the Greeks Mongols British Soviet etc and most Pashtuns were leaders and president
USSR left Afghanistan in orderly manner. Najibullah's government held for another 3 years. Americans, in contrast, fled rapidly and their allies fell a several weeks later.
@@Pwn3dbyth3n00b I think many Afghans have come to the point where they simply just don’t want war. Whether that means a terrible ruler, as long as there is some stability
I like how you show the AK-47 being shipped with US supplies to Afghanistan. During the Russian invasion of Afghanistan the US shipped Russia's own weapons to Afghans to help them fight. They did not send US weapons.
I really like the armchair historian, however, he left out some pretty important parts especially Ahmed Shah Massoud and the northern alliance. Massoud was the most successful military leader of the mujahideen even thought he got much less supplies then other members in the mujahideen because of Pakistan. After the fall of the soviet backed government the mujahideen agreed to power sharing expect for Hekmatyar who was backed by Pakistan. He then led a brutal civil war that included the shelling of Kabul. The Afghan government with Massoud as minster of defence was able to beat back Hekmatyar forces. However, during this time the Afghan government had very little control in southern Afghanistan which led to the Taliban controlling the region. After the civil war with Hekmatyar the new Afghan government had to then deal wth the Taliban which were being helped by Pakistan after they saw Hekmatyar no longer being an option to led Afghanistan. The various militias in Afghanistan formed the Northern Alliance to try to stop the Taliban but with very little success outside of areas of northeastern Afghanistan which were areas that supported Massoud. After the Taliban captured Kabul in 1996 they would continue to fight Massoud and the Northern Alliance until the fall of the Taliban government. The Taliban never captured all of Afghanistan and the areas under Massoud control were much more liberal especially for women. Massoud would be assassinated two days before 9/11 by al-Qaeda, a terrorist attack he had warned about when he spoke at the European Parliament earlier that year. I just feel that during this period of Afghanistan Massoud needed to be included because of how important a figure he was.
What you just said really has no bearing on the content of this video. Including everything you just wrote in his video would've been as relevant as including details about the Bush/Gore election and all its drama. Pretty much irrelevant.
@@decidiousrex The bush gore thing was very relevant, in was quintessential in fact. That election was stolen to continue the war machine. Bush's are an oil family. Cheney ran a defense corporation for a decade before the war. Most of the Bush cabinet made millions off of this war by way of the defense contracts. This was literally a war for profit to the tune of Billions. And it still continues today. And the 2004 election was surely part of this grand scheme.
Why didn't you mention that John Chapman was actually trying to reclaim a fallen soldiers body? He got trapped in their own bunker then wounded and passed out. Chapman woke up in the enemy bunker the next day ALONE and tried to fight his way to a helicopter rescue and then died while surrounded on all sides. Chapman died fighting in the open not trapped in a bunker. Edit: the initial attack and subsequent rescue attempt were both recorded for any who want to see a true bad ass.
I don't think he knows much about the battle. Made Chapman sound like a SEAL too. Doesn't seem to understand that bin Laden was located in Jalalabad and Tora Bora long before 9/11.
Maybe we are not interested about how Chapman died This video isn't just about military clashes and victory, it is mostly about US involvment in Afghanistan,the reasons and the consequences. Long story short : Chapman died for nothing thanks to a useless american government thinking that we can solve anything with sheer force.
He didn't do any research on Chapman. Didn't even mention Neil Roberts, the Navy SEAL who was trapped up there and was ultimately killed. No mention of "Robert's Ridge."
@deltamatt001 No one cares about any of them, least of all the US Govt. They are extremely well-paid, especially with the bonuses. They have gone there to kill and destroy to make more money.
In the end, Usama achieved his ultimate goal: to drag America into a long and inconclusive war that has now been going on for 19 years with no progress
Imagine administrations letting the military run things as it should have been I.e poppy eradication and raids into Quetta Pakistan. This would have been over fast
It surely was a great plan. All it took was 80,000 or so dead taliban/al qaeda fighters, 30,000 dead Afghani citizens, and 70,000 dead Afghani soldiers. That isn't even counting the hundreds of thousands of wounded arabs and muslims in addition to countless more killed and wounded as collateral damage and the utter destruction of dozens of cities and towns in other arab countries as the conflict spread. I don't care what side of the conflict you think is in the right. No matter what you think of what happened there is one certainty; if bin laden actually intended to kill about 5,000 Americans for the above-mentioned cost then he is either a complete moron or he wanted the islamic world to suffer immeasurable harm so that he could cause comparatively negligent harm to the west.
Pakistani (a Country neighbouring Afghanistan): "This wont work, You have to consider the history" USA: "The history starts today" *20 years later* USA: "wtf why isnt it working?!?!?!"
The Taliban literally banned Opioid production and the level of drugs coming out of Afghanistan was lower in 2001 than it was at any point over the next 20 years of U.S occupation. Source: ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/410/cpsprodpb/136E5/production/_106598597_afghan_opium_chart-nc.png
@@iSamsore hilarious that you think that... how do you think the Taliban fund themselves?? There are several Taliban leaders that are massive druglords.
@@iSamsore Go on the ground, it's a completely different story over there. Just a few weeks ago the Taliban was requesting the U.S to release Hajji Bashar Noorzai, a close ally to the Taliban and is also a TOP DRUG LORD IN AFGHANISTAN.
@shield&sword peace India can and has conquered Afghanistan many times because we know the terrain and was ours while others do not in fact many places names are of Sanskrit origin like Kandahar which was Gandhara a city older than Jerusalem the place mentioned in this vid (Takur Ghar) translates to God's house
@@darklightreaper1 lol vice versa with sher sha suri. babur. ahmad shah durrani etc afghans and hindus have always fought but also respected each other.
I remember watching this on the news as a little kid and asking my parents about it. They explained the war in the most simple of terms so my 6yo mind could understand. The fact that this is history now makes me feel old.
@Mr D J In Success You cannot stop Me LoL r/cursedcomments Seriously tho, this war was already even before I was even born (I’m 17) and seeing it end now is surreal for me
If you have a spare hour, and If you actually want to learn about the war Vice's "This Is What Winning Looks Like" by Ben Anderson is actually a great documentary for how things have been going for decades there, and how the operational success actually was reported while in the ground the situation was completely different. Yes Vice you heard that right, on rare cases they do have some quality.
He wasn't even born then so yeah, History Starts Today! That American was probably rephrasing one of the USA's other former allies, *Pol Pot: Year Zero*
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I'm glad you're covering more recent and controversial topics like Afghanistan. Iraq next, please! Then maybe the Syrian civil war, and the war on terror in general.
Hurricane Katrina would also be cool.
Welcome back
Thank you for the awesome video.
Its surreal watching this the day the U.S evacuates.
All that I worked for down the drain smh
it was the inevitable outcome, be happy it happened now I guess
@@LNKSonTH-cam your right
I hope he makes a new episode on the rest of the war now that the Afghan government is history
Same
When stuff from 2002 starts becoming “history”, I , a 23 year old, feel old.
I mean technically 5 seconds ago is also history
A legit boomer here, almost 31, feeling old af.
Feels like yesterday I was seeing newsreel footage covering the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and seeing casualty reports
It makes me excited to see the future pass and get my peace
@@FrostyWheats it *was* yesterday when I read last year's afghanistan casualty report.
Oh boi good luck getting this monitised
LoL :-(
My exact thoughts before I started the video.
We're monetized right now!
@@TheArmchairHistorian Oooorrahh! Let's hope it'll stay like that on this and your next videos. You've got my respect for still going, doing all this hard work (including animators, etc).
You have no idea...
the Taliban never refused to hand over Bin Laden or to attempt dispelling Al-Qaeda, Bush refused their terms and the Taliban had been attempting to dispel Al-Qaeda for years, particularly after the embassies were attacked in the 90's.
No many of the taliban went to Al qaeda or play both sides
Yes. After knowing this fact, I wander if US had not invaded Afghanistan and Iraq spending trillions for a President to play war hero, would US have less problems at home. The sad things is nothing good came out of it for the people of Afghanistan. They are just as poor and corrupt during and after the US occupation and the inevitable death of thousands of civilians caught in the cross fire.
Thank you!! Such f*cking American exceptionalist propoganda from this dude
What were the terms they gave to the United States?
Blatantly false, but whatever floats your boat
2001: The Taliban controls Afghanistan.
2021: The Taliban controls Afghanistan ... but with Blackhawks and UAVs.
they already crashed a blackhawk they got no clue how to use them things
@@birdienuke2979 They'll learn some day.
@@wasifzakwan8722 not before it's all broken. Not even the ANA can maintain our gear, and we trained them to.
@@ufffd The fact that they have it at all is kinda f**k'd. Yet they are soo worried about those 2A nuts with pee shooters.
I’m more worried they’ll just send it to Russia or some other country to clone it. China already copied the Blackhawk with their Z-20. They could make it even closer to the original with the original in Afghanistan.
So, who is watching this for a bit of context now that the Afghan government has collapsed today?
My friend is actually being shipped back to Afghan very soon smh
I feel that around 7:15 to 7:55 perfectly sums up why the USA failed as miserably as it did. This is going to be one awkward 9/11 memorial for America.
@@Tenebraeification they got what they wanted. Kill Osama but still it was pointless. Any war is pointless
Me!!! The helicopters evacuating were as memorable as the planes crashing into wtc...
me watching American Humilation on live Tv , What a historical humilation for USA
When we lost the History Channel from the late 90's to reality TV, I'm thankful for your channel. Keep it up!
I remember watching hardcore stuff on history channel
Like people visiting head hunter tribes and what not
@@azmanabdula I remember watching their ww2, ww1, Vietnam and other war documentaries. It was a real interesting watch when I was a kid, now the History channel is trying to be like a&e, and it sucks hugely.
Yeah history and true crimes were my favorite growing up. Couldn't stand the clownery that is reality tv on their Network anymore
I hate what they did with the history channel
I used to love watching those old boring British black and white documentaries on both the world wars. Those were my favorite as a kid
"Sir"
"Yes?"
"We found a suspicious patch of grass in the area"
"CALL IN THE AC130 NOW"
The Taliban “Offered no resistance” when the forces invaded the capital. So, just like the Afghan military when the Taliban took it back… lol
Apparently, Afghans don't do cities, only mountains and valleys.
@@octavianpopescu4776 this is true but its different. The taliban offered no resistance because its the US, if it was some other warlord or something they would have fought.
while the afghan army, I really dont know why they didn't do something to try and hold the city, they outnumbered the taliban like 3-1
How could Taliban showed resistance when Americans us their airforce and launch airstrikes with so many nato countries involve,taliban did show resistance,all the airstrike kill many taliban,civilians,houses,kids,woman,young and old,Americans attack their weapons,it take many many years for taliban to regroup and emerge stronger and become victorious,today they won,no special force of usa,uk or any nato can stop the taliban,it is not fall of kabul but the fall of America,no sas,no delta force can stop Taliban from taking over
@@Khabib9-z8w we shouldve just nuked the country and have done with it ..
@@Khabib9-z8w They cannot win any prolonged combined arms or conventional warfare, but they do know how to wait the superpowers out.
I was deployed in Afghanistan, spent some time in Sangin Valley and met a Gunnery Sergeant who was there advising Afghan soldiers. He told me how he fought to take control of this same valley almost a decade ago as a young Lance Corporal, and here we are again in the same valley retaken by the Taliban to fight again.
That's a very infantile perspective you have there regarding foreign affairs. Most people in that valley don't give a crap about you or I or the taliban. They just want to be left alone to live out their lives. How does gassing their land help us exactly?
@Lordtrainwreck Shinehorn so we should kill everyone with a gun to stop potential school shooters?
Cause that's the same as the solution your implying.
@Lordtrainwreck Shinehorn that's just plain fucked up and childish. So what if they are foreigners they are still human beings that have done nothing wrong
I was there in 2011. Glad I’m retired. The taliban is useless but will stack their own bodies during a firefight.
@@ReviewWingsDSP thank you for your service
It sucks we have to learn the details 19 years later. Imagine what goes on today that won't be confirmed until 2040. smh.
If there is a 2040
The "Uyghur re-education camps" are today's "big lie". Vocational education and training centers in which young people are taught job skills in addition to the national language and Chinese law are being construed as "concentration camps" by the same media companies that pushed the narrative of Saddam's "WMDs", of Kuwaiti babies being "taken out of incubators" by Iraqi soldiers and left to die. The US fears China's rise and wants to do everything in its power to sabotage China. I'm not going to be very popular posting this now, but in 20 years history will prove me correct. Ever wonder why China has allegedly been doing this for decades, yet we've only started hearing about this since mid-2018? This is why; it's 90% disinformation and 10% truth. Please, I urge you to look into this.
Here's a good video on the matter. th-cam.com/video/v_XI-aiCa34/w-d-xo.html
don`t even try to be "informed", better to be true to your own thoughts. you gonna be just more misinformed, not informed. so you get the feeling of not missing out if you just don't listen to the radio or watch tv anymore, wich is messing you up anyway. trust me. am a 32 year old guy that discovered there is no "truth" in history, it`s more like storytelling I guess
@@kimilsungia7507 If that's true then China can show and tell us everything about the camps. They won't, probably because they're not really re-education centers.
@@kimilsungia7507 Who cares about uyghurs lmfao
Peace be upon you. Greetings from the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan from Afghanistan. Greetings to all of you. My message to the world. Who wants good relations with us, we Afghans are welcome. Or whoever wants to approach our country or occupy it, we will bury him there as we buried Britain, the Russians and America. We are a nation that loves death as you love life. Our nation, our religion, Islam is number one, our dignity, freedom and honor number two, so we are 40 years old fighting for the independence of our country and the freedom of our nation. No one plays with us Afghans because he will regret itcemetery of empires
-clicks immediatly so I don't miss this again-
Good idea haha.
Commenting for the algorithm...
@Caleb Hall more comment
Of Course
Did the same thing.
And commenting for the algorithm.
"What one should really fear is not a competent enemy, but an incompetent ally." Napoleon Bonaparte.
ww2 italy
There are no allies. Personal interests for US and for every other country.
“You’ve been ruining everyone’s lives and eating all are steak”
Napoleon dynamite.
every match on league of legends
That's the most stupid thing I've heard this hour.
Hey how about the invasion of Afghanistan from the Soviet perspective?
(guys I mean the communist invasion of Afghanistan from the Soviet perspective)
@dachicagoan he said the soviet perspective, it would be fine for yt because it would serve as propaganda
@dachicagoan Is that why the gulf war video was also demonetized? Or what about the anti-soviet ones also being demonetized? Nice argument snowflake.
@dachicagoan liberals ruin everything these days
@dachicagoan I wonder where this notion that leftists hate history came from.
Of course it's a right wing distortion. And its implications are apparent enough.
But it's always interesting to see such a similar talking point arise in so many different contexts.
Unfortunately for you, your recitation of this argument is less sophisticated than most I've seen. People have specifically claimed that Marx fundamentally misunderstood history, which is a claim more worthy of examination than this third-rate parroting on display here.
Watch THE BEAST OF WAR.
This is the history channel with the best atmosphere. The music, the drawings and the tone are really immersive.
Nice video bro. Me being an afghan I can tell you got 95% of the History right, the only things you missed are that 1: Pakistan Never stopped helping the Taliban, Pakistan is helping the Taliban till the present day 2: America was never 100% in control, a few years after Karzai came to power Taliban controlled 50% of Afghanistan mainly southern parts 3: opium production continued after the American invasion but this time the profit split between western forces and the Taliban.
May God give you a peaceful and happy life brother love from india
Yall deserved better. My apologies for the failures of America.
God bless bro , we arabs algerians also in 1990 2000 faced same terroristes problems, what a shame to us
It was the us and pakistan who killed doctor najeeb and this is what is happening afghanistan suffers most of pakistan suffers except punjab while the US a d pakistani high officials have their pockets warm
@Rafael yes it was taliban but taliban were backed by US and pakistan and in an interview with a talib who was with mullah omar he said clearly that we had orders from mullah omar to surround dr najeeb's house and not to do any harm to him or his family but as we went there dr najeeb was already dead they had killed him placed a bottle of wine in his hand and were dragging him and according to that talib the only one that can benefit from dr najeebs death except taliban was pakistan because he was against pakistan
The TH-cam algorithm has a sick sense of humor
More like, at least have some sense of History
Seriously, after Kabul’s fall, I guess we can all use some context
TH-cam is basically trying to tell to the U.S "don't f*ck with others"
Bro they recommended Tom Cruise's stunt where he held on to a plane in Mission Impossible just as refugees are doing in Afghanistan. It's fucked.
Long story short: don’t intervene in other state affairs.
Yuh
I am an Afghan and I was an interpreter for U.S Army special forces in Afghanistan for 11 years, I witnessed most of the crazy things that happened in my country. After 19 years of conflicts and spending trillion dollars, Afghanistan is in a worse situation than 2001 before the invasion.
Do you prefer the USSR era of Afghanistan? Or do you support the americans in the soviet afghan war? Would like to hear it from you :)
Note: im not russian, I am turkish
@@ulugbeglu I highly support America 🇺🇸.
@@Slybaby420 And may I ask why that is? Because afghanistan was very modern, at least compared to after-war, and is was developing, in terms of human rights as well, no? Do you really think a US that supports jihadists is better? Thanks for the reply, I am interested
@@Slybaby420 9/11 was a inside job
9/11 was a inside job
I’m watching this 3 years later and it is incredible of the evolution of your videos! Love your Chanel!!!
“Any suspicious patch of grass”
*Grass just chilling*
*Explosion*
I heard the grass shout "DEATH TO AMERICA!" it was a valid target.
poor patch of grass was just minding its own business
That grass has successfully prevented itself from being seen. Unfortunately, it has chosen a very obvious hiding spot.
MinesomeMC it got vibe checked
Grass: Blows in the wind
Bombs: So you've chosen death
OVER 31,000 Afghan civilians lost their lives from this conflict, not something that should be overlooked
Edit: This comment thread blew up more than I expected
A lot of that was caused by Taliban/other terrorists
@@robfl100 Not because of the us oh ofc not the us is innocent!!!
@@wassimrahmani3561 what are you on about with your word salad?
@@robfl100 you can run but you can't hide
@@wassimrahmani3561no one has ever said the us was innocent
Now make an animated version of our withdrawal.
It's not history yet
@@realgoogleuser I hope not
@@realgoogleuser well should have never even been there
Gonna happen in like 10 years
Its to short for this animation
Four points:
1)The Northern Alliance was in danger of failing after Massoud's death, and the Taliban had been pretty clear that they weren't going to respect international borders. The Taliban never truly ruled all of Afghanistan, just like Karzai's government also only had nominal power. It was their solidifying of power and threatening the borders of post-Soviet Central Asia that changed the situation. This is also why Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan provided bases to the US (also those governments like money too) and even Russia initially supported the invasion, because they had just gotten out of Chechnya and the civil war in Tajikistan so they were not wanting to have to intervene in Tajikistan again two years later. The potential existential threat to the world order and the realities of life under taliban rule were reasons why a broad coalition of NATO nations were involved in Afghanistan, unlike in Iraq where pretty much only the UK followed the US. While September 11th provided an excuse and made the war popular, I do not believe September 11th was the reason that the US invaded Afghanistan. Someone was going to do it, and taking care of Bin Laden would have been easier without a full-scale invasion. (Likewise the resolution to basically have the Iraq War happen and get rid of Saddam Hussein was passed in 1998 by congress as I recall, and Clinton bombed them in 1999.). Whatever September 11th was, it was mostly useful for propaganda purposes...it was not a strategic reason for waging these wars, at least not beyond special forces and drone wars.
2)ISI was divided internally as well: Pakistan's foreign policy is pretty clear though: India bad, do everything to keep India from getting any military advantage. Painting ISI as a monolith here...like painting Karzai's government or the Taliban as a single faction...fails to capture the complexities, since often certain leaders would act on their own...some aiding the US, some lying to the US, some actively undermining the US the whole time. There were numerous times where Bin Laden's Arab Taliban fell afoul of local sympathies as well...for example some of their number were killed after they destroyed graves...which...because of the old Sufi influence and even pre-dating Islam (I mean, Turkmenistan/Uzbekistan are the "home" of the bones of Adam and Mary according to the stories), graves being important is something that goes way back in the region.
3)For the people saying, "what did the US have to gain?" Markets for US products and raw materials for its companies. That's true of any invasion anywhere always, from Russia in Ukraine right now to Chingiz Khan. Also, at the time the US was expanding its power and influence in the Middle East, the former Soviet Union, and Central Asia. For many in the old guard from the USSR and the USA the cold war never ended, and many in the US have been quite eager to support color revolutions, Arab Spring, the expansion of NATO, and other expansions to their spheres of influence and profit.
4)When you create a "democracy" from the top down and flood it with millions in dollars in aid money, the result is inevitable: deep-rooted corruption, nepotism, and a government that will be dependent on aid money rather than for and by the people. The three million dollars to fight shows how the US ran this war and what happened after. That kind of leadership breeds resentment, not loyalty.
Look up warsoftheworld documentary on the history of afghanistan its amazing 🇦🇫
Can you tldr these?
TL:DR
1. Somebody was going to invade, 9/11 was an excuse at best
2: ISI was fractured and any information from them is shaky at best
3: The US had both political and financial motive to invade
4: The “democracy” we established was never going to succeed
For point 3, the US managed to make Afghanistan buy US weapons using its own taxpayer money and the occupation also created opportunities for military contractors to make profits.
As I am watching this the President of Afghanistan has fled and The Taliban have won, still comprehending the fact that we went to war for 20 years for no reason.
4 trillion taxpayer dollars down the drain, damn.
@@diego-bm7mi sadly, most of the budget goes to the military. Sigh
I saw a similar comment that says Afghanistan is this decade’s Vietnam
Can see why
Wouldn't say for no reason the US did accomplish things. The Taliban takeover was always going to happen when US operations ended no matter what it should be no surprise simply because the loyalty and bravery of the Afghan National Army is practically non existent. Full of corruption and people you would never be able to rely on.
@@zombieepx1933 ya that's why we could never leave before they knew when they left this would happen
Damn the animation is really getting better.
Yeah people keep commenting about the video going to be demonetised but god damn the animation looks hella better
@@Caesarea186 He's hired animators to help
This really is amazing, it's got alot of tiny nuggets of humor sprinkled in with the animation which just makes it so awesome!
My thought exactly! It seems like at least one new fancy technique gets added with each new video.
Finally its back! TH-cam cannot stop our desire for history!
They must learn about history before we make them learn about history
This isn't history this is propaganda pretending to be history.
5:39 caught me offguard.
Then years later USA signed a deal with the Taliban.... need part 2 of this
with the help of pakistan
Tom Voke Trump?Traitor?For stopping a 18 year long war and saving thousands of Americans? Yeah right.
@Tom Voke
People loving the conspiracy theory that Putin made Trump president, even though that theory falls apart if you have common sense.
Traitor Trump 😆😆
Get help
@@Adeel2424 hope Taliban will repay by gifts and booty. Pakistan will be thrown like a use and throw pen as it serves no use. Taliban will definitely repay Pakistan, just wait.
Love the Star Wars Battlefront “zoom in” reference
Thank you I knew but I couldn't place it
My nostalgia kicked in
Only real ones caught that!
Do-dodo-do, do-dodo-do
Those were the good days
It's so weird hearing all these names and places I heard all the time as a kid, without knowing what they really were about, finally put into their proper context.
Great video dude.
same for me too
Yeah same one of my most vivid memories was listening to the radio reporting that the death toll of British soldiers had reached 100
I remember as a kid my family came together over at the living room while the TV broadcasted the invasion of Iraq.
I remember, I was really young, watching some people cheering in a bar. The news had reached the people of New York that bin laden was killed
Biracial Boy 🤣
The Chapman story is vastly under represented in this video his heroism barely stopped where his description of his acts ends before his death.
"You have the watches, we have the time"
-- Afghan Proverb
Watches were created when the proverb was made?
"You can't have the time without the watch, smartass"
@ARMY الجيش Time exists, but it is useless unless you can tell it.
@@mkiii1447 this dude tryna sound wise 🤣🤣
I love how that single Taliban guy was like "awww."
Poor guy was vibin.I died at this part😂
@Gamers? Educators? Anyone there? He was arrested for the crime of trying to smoke through his mask.
poor guy he was on break today, he doesn't need this :p
Ikr! I felt that.
I feeling him
TH-cam: we banned your video.
Griffin: y tho
TH-cam: Money
Commenting for the algorithm...
Internet mr krabs at it again
Me: Revolt!
Thank you for unlocking that core memory, that was the star wars battlefront 2 radar noise. Cheers to the editor!
Imagine being that one Taliban soldier in interrogation
''Where are the rest of your regiment?''
''They said they saw something cool and would be back in a minute'
@Vladimir makarov oh so you cherrypick cases now? by taking one of the worst lucky shots taliban had on US copters with soldiers on board?
yeah the problem is thats not the common case we have, in nearly all other cases it is taliban who lost fighters to the US-Afghan forces
what? did you tune in your news channel only when that copter got downed then tune it off again clueless of any other fights against the taliban?
@Vladimir makarov the ussr lost also so chill Russian troll
@Vladimir makarov I'm not sure you could say that America "lost." Suppressing a foreign regime, and making sure your own puppet is in charge, is not "losing." Sure, occupying Afghanistan was uncomfortable for both American troops and not least for "public opinion," but in the end they solved the mission. I'd call that a "win" personally, though it has elements of a phyrric victory. Albeit not in allied _lives_ lost, but in esteem and honour lost by the American government and people. This is where we learned that America is no longer the land of the free, and that they are just as ruthless and top-heavy as nations we don't normally like to compare ourselves with...
Americans were keenly aware of this loss of honour, and perhaps that is their biggest loss to date, because being faced with people criticizing them on every corner of the world can't be easy for a people who identify themselves as a bastion of opportunity, democracy and freedom. It is for _that_ reason Trump won so many votes simply by having a slogan saying "Make America Great Again". I mean, obviously America is "Great" as in a nation to be feared for their military power, but no American really wants to be feared. Americans wants to be loved, like they were in most of the world in the 50's and 60's (with the notable exception of the Communist nations).
Vladimir makarov Need I remind you how much men the Russians lost to the Germans?
9:53 Poor guy, he just wanted to smoke his cigarette in peace 😔
Damn
smoking over a 90 billion afghan army
It wasn’t even lighted lmao
He was about to smoke a blunt
Bruh, could you imagine? You're alone chillin and the 75th Ranger Reg rolls up on you DEEP
Fun Fact: Every single AK has its safety on
kool
aid
bub
Somebody once t-
R.i.P to the 2,996 people died in 9/11
R.I.P to 1,455,590 Muslims died during the US invasion for something they didn’t do
Who is the actual Oppressor or terrorist ?
9:57
his dissapointment is precious XD
His face says:
"Those days you can't even smoke calmy."
"Meanies :("
You forgot to mention us backing up taliban in the 80’s and calling them “freedom fighters “ as allies against communist russia. But you reap what you sow.
When you fund a terrorist group to get rid of a terrorist group you funded to get rid of a terrorist group you funded to get rid of a terrorist group you funded to get rid of a terrorist group you funded to get rid of a terrorist group you funded
Did you even watch the video?
@Mo Khan Two different things, but I can see how 3rd world peasants would confuse them.
Two totally different groups, but I can see how the uneducated people would not know the difference. You have to be able to read, before you can read history.
@@MarzaButTube yo dawg I heard you like proxy wars so we got you a proxy war to put in your proxy war so you can be fighting a proxy war while you're fighting a proxy war
"In July 2000, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, collaborating with the UN to eradicate heroin production in Afghanistan, declared that growing poppies was un-Islamic, resulting in one of the world's most successful anti-drug campaigns"
Yeah that's just muller Omar, now the taliban are the world's biggest opiom producer, the taliban love their opiom/heroin business, remember the taliban control helmand province and they love all those poppies🤑🤑🤑
Then came America and it was running at 110% of work supply.
@@alexcope8142 How else are they going to drive out the ones that invaded them?
islam must be introduced to mexico
@@alexcope8142
That's Western Propaganda, While the US gets all the profit of Heroin/Opium production. Tell me Who smuggle drugs to Europe & America? Talibans or America?
I'm loving these videos sir! I wish I could have found them sooner lol. Looking back, I wish I'd went in historical order, but I've corrected the mistake and I'm off and running lol. Thank you for the education!
And almost 20 years later, PLOT TWIST, the US are still stuck in a war in Afghanistan.
i thought they signed a peace agreement about pulling out
I was wrong about Afghanistan . I figured 10 years and $1 trillion , It ended up 20 years and $2 trillion
@@goldzen3019 i mean yeah they did but come on, when has the west ever been able to bring peace in the region
@Leopold what
Leopold I mean saudi arabia would somehow seem reasonable but wtf? Israel
"History begins today", sounds like something Gen. Shepherd would say.
EXACTLY THO
What the hell kind of name is "Soap" ?
It’s kind of a bad ass line though, you’ve got to admit.
@@farisabuain6832 Gen. Shepherd was bad ass until a point.
@Shreshth Maurya what did I do to you? :(
My father went to high school in a very small town with a guy that became a journalist. In the 80’s that guy traveled with Bin Laden and interviewed him while they were fighting the Soviets. Days after 9/11 the FBI was knocking on his door. 10 years later I was at a combat outpost near the Pakistani border and got the message that Bin Laden was killed. Crazy.
At the end of Rambo III, the film makers thank the "galant afghan people". A few years later:
"Afghans are evil! Let´s kill´em!!"
Isn´t it odd how perceptions change, when they encounter the lean mean US propaganda machine? In a few years, the US population went from "galant afghans" to "slaughter them".
Crazy indeed
Yeah I remember I was the camera
@@Biden_is_demented well, your reasoning is slightly true, but not really. The Afghans were fighting the Soviets, and as the Cold War was basically a huge series of proxy wars, the US backed "Afghan" militia groups (Reagan even dedicated a space shuttle launch to the Afghan people and their struggle against "oppression" (the Soviets)). The problem was that the US funded an awful lot of random militant groups (including, obviously, Bin Laden's gang), and like the Soviets warned, after the Afghan mujahideen drove them out, the US's policy would allow the "worst forms of Islamism to rise up"...and ~10 years later, we had 9/11 (somewhat simplistically put).
But you must also remember that Afghanistan back in the mid-20th Century was actually a place the US and UK were pouring money in to to create an almost "satellite state" - it was very much a bit of a utopia for many families of western diplomats, other government workers, and construction/logistics enterprises. They were basically trying to set up a franchise out there... There was a huge hydro dam project built out there, can't remember the name of the American company that built it, but there was a lot of hope for Afghanistan.
@@bazil83 "your reasoning is slightly true, but not really."
Your diatribe is slightly relevant, but not really. How is that attempt at a history class proving or rebuking anything i said??
It is a fact that americans were sucking up to the afghans during the USSR invasion, and it is also true the american people moved from loving them to death, to just killing them to death. So, your point is...?
you deserves 100 million subs
Afghanistan falls to Taliban
KABUL-Taliban fighters on Sunday entered Kabul, triggering a massive effort to airlift Western diplomats and civilians as the country’s demoralized security forces offered no resistance. - The Wall Street Journal, August 15, 2021
History repeats itself.
Young Americans sent to Afghanistan and died for nothing
Taliban will create a new terrorist group now and America will regret leaving Afghan.
The Former Afgan Security Forces will be known for waving the white flag.
Not sure what it is, but Kabul seems to be falling under the attacking force's control fairly easily every time it is mentioned, as well as recently. Something about the city's layout must be making it difficult to defend.
isn't it like... 27 minutes shorter? how many things did you have to edit out? lol
The video I uploaded yesterday that was 40 minutes long was a rant on live-stream, not the actual video. This video is unedited from the original version.
@@TheArmchairHistorian youtube when will they learn history is apart of history
Tactical ideas Defense wow I never knew history was actually history.
America: "Take that Soviet-Russia!"
Soviet-Russia: "Wat"
2001
Al-Qaeda:
America: "Wat"
2020:
Afghanistan: "Wat"
Exactly. Notice how ISIS is driving Ford and Chevy pickup trucks. Its and excuse to go to war so that the oil fields can be secure. Why do you think America hates Iran? Because they figured this out in the 50s unlike Saudi.
@Stephen Jenkins The US still made who Osama was and started this whole thing
@Stephen Jenkins It was still a war the US should never have entered
Stephen Jenkins you heard of mujahadin or even watched the video .... that was the US’s creation stop lying to yourself
@@daddykun7709 The mujahideen fought Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban, even if that was a failure and eventually created the circumstances in which the Taliban seized control of Aghanistan, that doesnt mean the US created the Taliban
Yo, I thought you were the youtuber PC centric. The likeness is uncanny. Great video as well.
kabul is about to fall and after that its game over, all of this ended up being for nothing.
@@fanniinnanetguy653 and now the taliban are in the presidental palace. i read something about them declaring the Islamic Emirate
Looks like John Chapman and his comrades wasted their lives for nothing
Not for nothing!! For control and greed! Americans are blind to the fact that there Goverment is the biggest cartel on earth! They use our military to get whatever they want? Mainly they want to control the world! Goverment has been hiding the truth and lieing to its citizens!
@@christiyoung8689 biggest cartel on Earth lol. When the Taliban implement the same rule they had in the 90s, and Women are back to not being allowed to have an education in Afghanistan, and hobbies are banned, owning pets are banned, and anyone who stands against that is murdered, remember to tell yourself the US were the bad guys. When America was sending emergency UN food supplies to hundreds of thousands of Afghans in the 90s but being denied by the Taliban and people were starving who was the cartel there in that situation? Take off your tin foil hat.
The war was pointless from the start. But hopefully this teaches the U.S a lesson, don't f*ck with other nations
bruh every day in parts of the middle east is 9/11
That hit hard
911 was done by Bush anyway it was inside job as an excuse to invade Afghanistan and Iraq and cause conflict and civil war while stealing valuable resources and heroin blood money is one of the most profitable for war CIA are working with afghan warlords and drug lords in the opium trade
Indafield “911 was done by bush.” That’s a weird way of saying mossad
As a Middle-Easterner, I feel the Americans are being over-dramatic about 9/11. I get that it's a tragedy, but, come on, it's just two towers. If you combine all the bricks of all the destroyed buildings in the Middle East (or the US occupation of Iraq alone), you'd have enough bricks to build more than 10 World Trade Centres.
@Rajeev Vij 9/11 conspiracies make sense, given that fake reasons were used for the invasion of Iraq. You can take the easy step and just say "lol u beliv erth flat lol" too, your choice.
"Only a single unfortunate Taliban soldier has been left as guard" Bad Luck Ahmed
Lmao
What about now 2020 James lol
I figure that they figured the best they could do is keep any civilians from stealing their stuff, but if an army showed up it was a lost cause anyway.
I guess he surrendered considering the circumstances
“Awwwwee”
- Ahmed, 2001
Your narration and cinematic quality of animation is second to none. Thank you for this great content.
As I write this , the last US military air craft has left Afghanistan with the Taliban in charge of the country once more. America has lost another pointless war.
The military industrial complex won, they will find another reason to bomb some more freedom lovers.
not a lost war as in Vietnam but a poorly negotiated transition, This is very different from Vietnam even though the end was so poorly conducted
Oh yes show ur savage solders as heroes huh what a joke
If u want to know the truth watch this:
The untold story of Afghanistan with documents and videos shows what US really did
th-cam.com/video/TSpWJw6HfyY/w-d-xo.html
We didn’t lose. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
@@alpearson9158 The results were the same it was a lost war
Let's see if this will stay monetized.
I watched this as he uploaded it, 1 add hours later, none.
The lone Taliban guard was my favorite
michael howell *was he now*
@@zoombini1831 yeah, it was. Poor lil fella got spooked by the Army.
" aww man, can you guys just lemme smoke for a while, joining Taliban is harsh you know "
His mates fooled him and left him all alone.
bro the animations are so fucking raw with emotion good work very nice
Your way of explaining with graphics, the background info you give and your clear English with a calm voice make it for a non-English speaker easy to understand. Thanks so much, Super!
check this out if you want a Red Pill on Afghanistans history th-cam.com/video/wEWrjc4DXqE/w-d-xo.html
wrgg
@@zes3813 wrgg?
nazi loving scum
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You missed the part about 15th August 2021 when Kabul fell to the Taliban.
Haha
Lol
Indian independence day, Afghan dependence day.
I am waiting for the us to split into 12 coutries
This was posted 1yr ago
I already watched this on the Armchair historian website but i'm watching the full thing again so that it can get recommended.
Never gonna happen with a video like this, TH-cam won't allow it.
Thaeldir It was recommended to me?
@@RyBrown thats happens based on what you watch, but this will
N E V E R get on trending
@@thaeldir8923 This video presents no threat to the owners of theirtube because it follows the official narrative. Now if you want to see a historical video that's a threat to our overlords you'll have to watch the most forbidden documentary ever published and pulled down from theirtube countless times since its 2017 release: "Europa The Last Battle". Watch the full 10-part series at archive-dot-org while you still can!
henrey well it worked
This is a great channel. Well done. Similar to the operations room. About the only place I can watch history.
Being an Afghan and from Kandahar, the story is totally one dimensional.
Most stories are. It's our job as viewers to recognize just that.
Considering this is only 20min, I think it does a great job, at trying to explain this one dimension. "Historical reasons, why catching Bin Laden, and removing the Taliban failed in Afghanistan".
As A Danish Helmand veteran, who went to your country, to protect you and your countrymen from oppression. I'd say, I failed, my government failed, and the international community failed. I am truly sorry.
I wish I could do more. I wish my countries leaders would do more, rather then just saying 'Mission failed'.
The main takeaway from this video, that I think is of historic relevance is. That the Americans, British initially, and ISAF in the long run. Didn't understand the culture and history of Afghanistan, hence could never succeed at their goal, unless being fully committed for the long game. Which history shows, none of them were.
As an addition that the video doesn't touch. Forcing your own ideals, in this case western, on a completely different society, will cause tension with the local populace. Which probably isn't what you'd want, during an armed conflict, where you could be seen as the aggressor.
@@soul0360 respect, you are a hero
@@soul0360 iijj
This makes me feel old that this is on armchair historian, then I remember that this was 20 years ago 😦
I was in daycare then, when will I be old?
I still 4 years old
@@fionafiona1146 th-cam.com/video/Bmc9NFfhx74/w-d-xo.html
@@fionafiona1146 23ish? I'd say you're old in 7 years
Let's not exaggerate... it was 19 years ago... next year when it becomes 20 then you will be old.
12:21 - Anybody else get violent Star Wars Battlefront I flashbacks. Got damn
That was one of my favorite games as a kid, I literally ripped the sound effect from that game for the transition.
Attention Sargent on deck geetsly
@@TheArmchairHistorian When it came up, I paused your video instantly to comment this. Good form, sir.
God that map zooming was amazing, good old times
Damn! As soon as I heard that sound I went to the comments to see if someone else had pointed it out. Just the sound gives me flashbacks to sitting in the middle of the living room playing through the campaign over and over again.
Just discovered this channel! I love the visuals and detail. Very well narrated. Respect to all who fought and those fallen to both sides.
Edit: all sides (obviously wasn't just the US and Afghans)
Damn, you hired an amazing animator.
Nice
12:24 ahh, good times watching the loading screen on Star Wars: Battlefront.
The sound is iconic
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That’s exactly what I thought! I went straight to the comments to see if anyone else thought of it haha
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend” is why Afghan is a mess.
Afghans are heros
@I'm not flat, stop asking the US support was substantial and improtant tho, they supported the most dangerous militias
@GG Allin what bit us in the ass was abandoning them immediately after the russians left and allowing the vaccum.
@The Anteater you have a source? According to the vid Pakistan ❤ Taliban.
Afghanistan is a mess because of its ethnic tensions, religious extremism, and the over all shitty geography that doesn’t lend well to great infrastructure
LOVE THESE! I'm so glad I found you man.
3:08
You missed the most crucial part here. The Afghans follow the Pathan Code of Honour which puts special emphasis on being faithful to those that once helped you.
This means that while many Afghans may have had disagreements over Usama's actions, they were honour bound to die defending him regardless. This adds a very interesting perspective on their motivations and paints them all in a more nuanced light
@@VintageVoid3
They represent the group of Afghans that took in Osama and swore to protect him.
@@VintageVoid3 Afghan means Pashto
@@VintageVoid3 yes but Pashtuns are the main ethnicity group and the most populated in Afghanistan they were also the ones that fought for the Afghan empire against the Greeks Mongols British Soviet etc and most Pashtuns were leaders and president
@@VintageVoid3 I think you're in no position to speak on our behalf
0:19 wow, you put more effort into the US and Afghans fighting. I like that
USSR left Afghanistan in orderly manner. Najibullah's government held for another 3 years. Americans, in contrast, fled rapidly and their allies fell a several weeks later.
The US has been "pulling out" or talking about pulling out of Afghanistan since Obama. The Afghan Army is just inept.
@@Pwn3dbyth3n00b I think many Afghans have come to the point where they simply just don’t want war. Whether that means a terrible ruler, as long as there is some stability
you know it's bad when former Soviet soldiers can now truthfully declare that they did a better job
the difference is after the russians left afganistan was divided between different warlording factions, after America left they only had the one
Its like building a sand castle on the beach, you know the tide is going to come in.
I like how you show the AK-47 being shipped with US supplies to Afghanistan. During the Russian invasion of Afghanistan the US shipped Russia's own weapons to Afghans to help them fight. They did not send US weapons.
I really like the armchair historian, however, he left out some pretty important parts especially Ahmed Shah Massoud and the northern alliance. Massoud was the most successful military leader of the mujahideen even thought he got much less supplies then other members in the mujahideen because of Pakistan. After the fall of the soviet backed government the mujahideen agreed to power sharing expect for Hekmatyar who was backed by Pakistan. He then led a brutal civil war that included the shelling of Kabul. The Afghan government with Massoud as minster of defence was able to beat back Hekmatyar forces. However, during this time the Afghan government had very little control in southern Afghanistan which led to the Taliban controlling the region.
After the civil war with Hekmatyar the new Afghan government had to then deal wth the Taliban which were being helped by Pakistan after they saw Hekmatyar no longer being an option to led Afghanistan. The various militias in Afghanistan formed the Northern Alliance to try to stop the Taliban but with very little success outside of areas of northeastern Afghanistan which were areas that supported Massoud. After the Taliban captured Kabul in 1996 they would continue to fight Massoud and the Northern Alliance until the fall of the Taliban government. The Taliban never captured all of Afghanistan and the areas under Massoud control were much more liberal especially for women. Massoud would be assassinated two days before 9/11 by al-Qaeda, a terrorist attack he had warned about when he spoke at the European Parliament earlier that year. I just feel that during this period of Afghanistan Massoud needed to be included because of how important a figure he was.
Paragraphs are a thing my man
Zachary Romaniuk that guy was killed before a couple days before 9/11.
Alastair He said that in his comment
What you just said really has no bearing on the content of this video. Including everything you just wrote in his video would've been as relevant as including details about the Bush/Gore election and all its drama. Pretty much irrelevant.
@@decidiousrex The bush gore thing was very relevant, in was quintessential in fact. That election was stolen to continue the war machine. Bush's are an oil family. Cheney ran a defense corporation for a decade before the war. Most of the Bush cabinet made millions off of this war by way of the defense contracts. This was literally a war for profit to the tune of Billions. And it still continues today. And the 2004 election was surely part of this grand scheme.
Why didn't you mention that John Chapman was actually trying to reclaim a fallen soldiers body? He got trapped in their own bunker then wounded and passed out. Chapman woke up in the enemy bunker the next day ALONE and tried to fight his way to a helicopter rescue and then died while surrounded on all sides. Chapman died fighting in the open not trapped in a bunker.
Edit: the initial attack and subsequent rescue attempt were both recorded for any who want to see a true bad ass.
I don't think he knows much about the battle. Made Chapman sound like a SEAL too. Doesn't seem to understand that bin Laden was located in Jalalabad and Tora Bora long before 9/11.
Maybe we are not interested about how Chapman died
This video isn't just about military clashes and victory, it is mostly about US involvment in Afghanistan,the reasons and the consequences.
Long story short : Chapman died for nothing thanks to a useless american government thinking that we can solve anything with sheer force.
There is a lot of misinformation in this video, counted 3 right off the bat. Seems very biasedly produced.
He didn't do any research on Chapman. Didn't even mention Neil Roberts, the Navy SEAL who was trapped up there and was ultimately killed. No mention of "Robert's Ridge."
@deltamatt001 No one cares about any of them, least of all the US Govt. They are extremely well-paid, especially with the bonuses. They have gone there to kill and destroy to make more money.
“Are they the good Afghans or the bad Afghans?”
Yes, but actually no.
There is no such thing as "Bad" in history, everything has a reason, unless your Hitler of course
Jim Bob you just contradicted yourself
"Well, they won't shoot us on sight, if that's what you're asking."
Probably one of the US / British spec ops operators.
It would be difficult to distinguish Northern Alliance fighters from Taliban/AQ in combat if one is not familiar.
The Star Wars battlefront load screen reference was dope
TH-cam: DiD I jUsT hEaR AfGaNiStAn?
looool
In the end, Usama achieved his ultimate goal: to drag America into a long and inconclusive war that has now been going on for 19 years with no progress
SamTheSwift Gg it’s so depressing when you think about it.
It would've been over if troops were allowed to enter Pakistan and finish the job
Imagine administrations letting the military run things as it should have been I.e poppy eradication and raids into Quetta Pakistan. This would have been over fast
It surely was a great plan. All it took was 80,000 or so dead taliban/al qaeda fighters, 30,000 dead Afghani citizens, and 70,000 dead Afghani soldiers. That isn't even counting the hundreds of thousands of wounded arabs and muslims in addition to countless more killed and wounded as collateral damage and the utter destruction of dozens of cities and towns in other arab countries as the conflict spread.
I don't care what side of the conflict you think is in the right. No matter what you think of what happened there is one certainty; if bin laden actually intended to kill about 5,000 Americans for the above-mentioned cost then he is either a complete moron or he wanted the islamic world to suffer immeasurable harm so that he could cause comparatively negligent harm to the west.
@The Anteater uhhmm sure, ok champ. You roll with whatever strikes your fancy.
9:55
1 Taliban : lets take a smoke right now
US soldier : **Points gun** No
1 Taliban : **Visible Sad face**
How can he smoke with his mouth covered tho🤔
That was the saddest part of the conflict. A man had his smokebreak interrupted.
@@Devmess7799 magic
@@Devmess7799 "filtration"
And still US get kicked out from Afghan
Taliban in 2001: you’re gonna get tired and leave
20 years later: nice we got APCs
Pakistani (a Country neighbouring Afghanistan): "This wont work, You have to consider the history"
USA: "The history starts today"
*20 years later*
USA: "wtf why isnt it working?!?!?!"
???
@@مدفعيةالله
Watch the video.
Russia, British Empire, & Macedonia: "We told you kid"
You mean why it is taking so long?
It did work tho lmfao
53 minutes ago
Me : "is it gonna be deleted again?"
Now you need to do a video on the Soviet-Afgan war, and the English-Afgan wars.
Love your videos!
Amazing you didn’t mentioned any civilian deaths due to American military operations
Taliban: we are the most devout muslims in the world!!!!
Also Taliban: give me that heroin and those little boys!
noo
The two go hand in hand.
The Taliban literally banned Opioid production and the level of drugs coming out of Afghanistan was lower in 2001 than it was at any point over the next 20 years of U.S occupation.
Source: ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/410/cpsprodpb/136E5/production/_106598597_afghan_opium_chart-nc.png
@@iSamsore hilarious that you think that... how do you think the Taliban fund themselves?? There are several Taliban leaders that are massive druglords.
@@__martian__ I don't "think that". It's a fact, you can see the source right in front of your eyes. Facts don't care about your feelings.
@@iSamsore Go on the ground, it's a completely different story over there. Just a few weeks ago the Taliban was requesting the U.S to release Hajji Bashar Noorzai, a close ally to the Taliban and is also a TOP DRUG LORD IN AFGHANISTAN.
the graveyard of empires strikes again
Taliban❤❤❤.
tell that to the sikhs
@shield&sword peace India can and has conquered Afghanistan many times because we know the terrain and was ours while others do not in fact many places names are of Sanskrit origin like Kandahar which was Gandhara a city older than Jerusalem the place mentioned in this vid (Takur Ghar) translates to God's house
@shield&sword peace the Sikhs did reach Afghanistan they still live in kabul and many afghans watch indian tv shows
@@darklightreaper1 lol vice versa with sher sha suri. babur. ahmad shah durrani etc afghans and hindus have always fought but also respected each other.
I remember watching this on the news as a little kid and asking my parents about it. They explained the war in the most simple of terms so my 6yo mind could understand. The fact that this is history now makes me feel old.
@Mr D J In Success You cannot stop Me LoL r/cursedcomments
Seriously tho, this war was already even before I was even born (I’m 17) and seeing it end now is surreal for me
Yep. "Kill Bin Laden!" was the one sentence used.
If you have a spare hour, and If you actually want to learn about the war Vice's "This Is What Winning Looks Like" by Ben Anderson is actually a great documentary for how things have been going for decades there, and how the operational success actually was reported while in the ground the situation was completely different. Yes Vice you heard that right, on rare cases they do have some quality.
Dude didn’t even explain how we eventually created the taliban in the 80’s through funding and training
He wasn't even born then so yeah, History Starts Today!
That American was probably rephrasing one of the USA's other former allies, *Pol Pot: Year Zero*
Oh wow, you were part of the CIA in the 80s?
@@RedLancerMoto damn somebody doesn’t understand figurative language
@Zergul Stanikzai go learn what figurative language means
@@hypechris8879 Okay, what type of figurative language were you using?
Counting down to demonetisation: 100, 99, 98, 97...
We're monetized! For now...
@@TheArmchairHistorian wow the animations on this video are amazing, feels like a mini doc movie, good job!👍
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@@TheArmchairHistorian boom demonitized
When this war became history . I feel I'm an old person .
exactly...
It be like that sometimes. Some of these kids don’t know the world before 9/11 lol
Sell that history for you! We will be immortalized forever for that 1 event that changed everyone's lives.
well the war is over now
@@simonmohammed5637 that’s funny
Chapman is a bad ass forsure. Giving up his life to save his squad mates is the definition of courage
10/10 animation
Thanks man!
8:45 wake up Afghanistan, freedom has arrived
What's that noise? It's freedom knocking on your door. Better let them in.
@@chrisredfield6274 that kind sound like a song
Battlefront loading screen animation is much appreciated.
^
I didn’t think anyone picked up on that one
It wasn’t just the any battle front, it was the good battlefront game.