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When the Empire/Nato comes a calling you can guaranteed the war was planned in terms of deployment of clandestine assets. Coordination of weapon shipments from Sudan. The diplomatic preamble was well orchestrated by Hillary Clinton. The pressure applied on its neighbours and the exploitation of the Arab Spring which very well been psy op that toppled or weaken hostile powers to the US and Israel. He should never listened to the honeyed words of Tony Blair and kept his wmds and nuclear weapons programme.
it was viewed from a Western perspective, many of those countries have completely different cultures to the West, Democracy is not a system that will work everywhere, people don't understand that
Gaddafi and Hussein were not good men, but they maintained order and stability in their respective countries. Fast-forward to today, Iraq and Libya are power vacuums in constant states of war. Western intervention hasn't had a great history in the Middle East...
@@shutup2751It's not that democracy didn't work, it was simply too slow in it's implementation. Seeing as how it was a foreign concept to them, building it in from scratch was nothing short of near impossible.
Huh? There were massive pro-government protests and lots of Libyans fought for and supported Gaddafi. The point they’re making is that the US gave a massive advantage to the anti-government side which allowed them to kill Gaddafi etc etc. without US support it’s very likely the anti-government side would have been defeated.
Because they didn't kill gaddaffi, it was a US backed rebel group made up of foreign fighters from around the region, very little was from Libya and very little were calling for a violent overthrow...you only think so because for some reason you believed the western media that sold it all as "the Arab spring".. How nice of a name for a period of time that killed millions all for the advancement of US hegemony in the region
Honestly, I have no sympathy for Libyans. They had the highest standard of living in Africa and they still chose to kill him in favour of some ridiculous theocratic state that NEVER works.
@@My-name-is-user-tx6ow1ss3b USA, is the godfather of global terrorism.. "Peace keeper " Behind this statement, world's most ruthless murderer criminal. .
@@My-name-is-user-tx6ow1ss3bas if gaddafi wasn't already a dead man walking. It's like blaming the US for the current Iranian regime with many Iranians missing the days of the shah. The us just went with the flow and sided with the group they thought would win.
@@manipulatortrash I blame the Americans for the Islamic revolution that took place because of the coup that brought the Shah to power, a coup against a democratic country. In truth, it is a "stronghold of democracy".
@@manipulatortrash I blaмe the Americans for the Islamic revolution that took place because of the coup that brought the Shah to power, a coup against a democratic country. In truth, it is a "stronghold of democracy".
i have never met a libyan that was happy about Gaddafis killing. My best friend is Libyan. Him and his family say life was so much better in Libya under Gaddafi compared to now.
So suprising because the vid lists some clear issues libya had then coupled with the fact he was a literal dictator. Guess that shows what a mess it is now I guess
Hindsight is 20/20. Libyans then wanted him gone, and got it done. But dictators that hold on to power to the very end leave a mess that can take decades to get out of without massive foreign support. People now will say life was better under Gaddafi, because conditions are worse. But don't think as much about what was happening to Libyans under Gaddafi that thought it should be better. If that revolution didn't topple him, the country was already in an economic spiral, and a different uprising or fracturing would have happened instead
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it.. Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who.. 1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS 4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS 5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone.. He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911.. He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US.. He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli.. He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars.. He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
I really wish TH-cam would get its act together and stop demonetizing history. This is my favorite channel but it really sucks only getting content occasionally and sometimes missing it entirely from demonetization.
@@teknoindonot rlly. Saddam and Gaddafi were also pro Russia actually. Russia was not a major power broker in 2003. And wasn’t that interested in saving Gaddafi in 2011 tho
I wanted to ironically respond angrily, but then I saw that your profile picture is Pope Leo XIII. I can’t be not friendly to someone who likes Pope Leo XIII. Have a good day!
@@lightstar1053i don’t see how, Gaddafi failed in unifying his immediate area of North Africa. The whole continent, especially non Arab countries, would be almost impossible or lead to an immediate civil war due to a power struggle
@@lightstar1053i don’t see how since Gaddafi failed at unifying his immediate area of Northern Africa. The rest of Africa, especially non Arab states, would be almost impossible to unify or immediately lead to a civil war
I remember when the same thing happened in Egypt under Mubarak. The difference there was that the security forces had the decency to hold their fire and not murder their fellow Egyptians
In Libya Gaddafi (just like Assad in Syria) had all control over the state. That’s why Libya still haven’t fully recovered from Gaddafi downfall, once he was out, all state institutions went off
As an Egyptian, I can say that Egypt was a mess back then - but at least our agencies were able to hold the line. The protests' demands were met, President Morsi was finally removed from office and many of his supporters had proven to be infact terrorists. The state of Egypt today is not good at all, but compared to our bordering nations in Libya and Sudan, I am damn thankful our military and security forces were brave enough to stop this place from entering a devastating civilwar.
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it.. Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who.. 1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS 4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS 5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone.. He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911.. He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US.. He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli.. He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars.. He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
In Libya, the situation is different from Egypt, where a brigade in eastern Libya defected and opened weapons stores and distributed them to the protesters, not to mention the entry of Al-Qaeda on the line.
ROFL. LMAO. They killed Hundres. True is, not so much During the revolution but... VERY important, afterwards. IN the "peace" time. They exterminated leader after leader. Look it up, speak to some egypt people. The amount of missinformation is crazy.
No Gaddafi was based off Admiral General Aladdin. That's why Wadiya supported the Libyan rebels due to Gaddafi not paying Aladdin royalties for copying him.
@@InmyMindInmyEyestheLoveweshareNot inspired, but based on. Aladdin legit took some Gaddafi quotes and repeated. « What is the question ? » list goes on
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it.. Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who.. 1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS 4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS 5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone.. He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911.. He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US.. He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli.. He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars.. He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
Unpopular Opinion maybe for a lot, and i'm not from Libya so my Opinion isn't remotely as important, but gettingd rid of Gaddafi was a Mistake in Hindsight, it caused and still causes so many Problems not only in Northern Africa but also all over Europe to this Day. And i say that as a Historian. Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
I second that as a Historian from Denmark. Remember his prophesy about what would happen if he wasn't there to stem the influx to Europe..? Also, the destruction of the Libyan irrigation system was yet another NATO crime. Skål!
It was something akin to Saddam. Bush Senior understood the homework, Bush Junior did not. Or rather, we didn't think the Libyan people would be that divided in leadership and vision.
It was rather simple. Russian meddling instigated the Libyan infighting that followed the fall of Gaddafi. We just didn't want to say the quiet part out loud, since people like to pretend Russia wasn't waging war against Europe and the US at that point.
@@prfwrx2497 So your gonna ignore the NATO strikes in Libya, and that would cause the death of Gaddafi in the most horrific ways possible by his captors.
@@sjsabattis so you're going to ignore Gaddafi sponsoring terrorism against NATO member states for the past 4 decades? There's a reason NATO aided the rebels.
In "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2," General Shepherd says: "The more things change, the more they stay the same. Boundaries shift, new players step in, but power always finds a place to rest its head. We fought and bled alongside the Russians. We should have known they’d hate us for it. History is written by the victor. And here I am thinking we’d won. But you bring down one enemy and they find someone even worse to replace him. Locations change, the rationale, the objective. Yesterday’s enemies are today’s recruits. Train them to fight alongside you, and pray they don’t eventually decide to hate you for it too." How ironic what happened to Sudan and Syria today, when they were supporting to overthrow Gaddafi... The old Chinese saying "唇亡齿寒" (chún wáng chǐ hán), which translates to "If the lips are gone, the teeth will be cold." This proverb means that closely related things are mutually dependent, and the loss or harm of one can negatively impact the other.
I’m not from Libya so this my personal opinion. But after seeing documentaries about the country, I feel as although gaddafi was and foremost a dictator. He did bring one thing to the nation and the region. Which was stability, vice news did a documentary, in which one man stated, that I fought against gaddafi in the war but if he was around I would fight for him. Libya now is state of corruption and instability but under gaddafi it was a stable nation. It’s almost like saddam Hussein. Although a absolute terrible man and dictator I’m not praising him in anyway but saddam did bring somewhat stability. With Iran and the ex monarchy. The region was stable.
In my country korea there is a person named 'empress myeongseong'. She was a queen that had control over the country in the 19th century. 19th century was a age of change and if korea was to survive it needed change. She insted spent 10% of the country budgets on parties and she attacked any korea politician that wanted to change the country. Because of her peasant rebellion happened and rather than sending korean army she sent Chinese army and gave huge huge economic opportunities to china. Insted of developing the country she wanted to give away rights to china for security while not deveoping the korean army. When sino Japanese war resulted in Japan victory she sent letters to russia and tried to make russia the new china. Japan noticed this and sent thugs to kill her. Japan thug supposedly pissed on her corpse and raped korean women along the way. Now she has turned into a korea hero who died fighting against Japanese imperialism. She was cancer to korea yet because she was killed by Japanese thugs she was martared. Both far right and far left korean sees her as a hero. When historian tries to say how she destroyed korea far right korean accuses of you being pro japan while far left accuses you of being sexist. This is how I feel about gadaffi. Gadaffi was not pan arab. He just wanted to become the leader of the arabs. When he didn't become that he threw a fit, invaded egypt, loose and cried like a baby. Gaddafi was no pan africanist. He helped the france in assassinating Thomas Sankara, a pan africanist leader in Burkina fiso. He supported the RUF in Sierra Leone civil war. The RUF would cut off civilians hand off to stop them from voting. He also brutaly oppressed berber culture. Also he was no pro secular. He supported islamist in Indonesia acheh. After he took power the intention of reestablishing sharia was announced, and Gaddafi personally assumed chairmanship of a commission to study the problems involved. In November 1973, a new legal code was issued that revised the entire Libyan judicial system to conform to the sharia, and in 1977 the General People's Congress (GPC-see Glossary) issued a statement that all future legal codes would be based on the Quran, among the laws enacted by the Gaddafi government were a series of legal penalties prescribed during 1973 which included the punishment of armed robbery by amputation of a hand and a foot. Now did NATO killed him because of the goodnes of there heart? NO! But he was not a good leader!
What stability are you talking about ? These dictators like Saddam, Gaddafi, Bashar Putin, and all the other ones bring is not stability but stagnation. All of the problems you mentioned were created under their regimes, for their own benefit. Just because a strongman mask the problems to the outside world through propaganda doesn't mean the problems aren't there.
He developed libya for sure but he supported terrorism in other countries. Like people always mention what usa interference did in Libya but not what Gaddafi terror funding did in the world. Sadly the world is so polarised people only talk about either good or bad instead of both
And same with saddam. Saddam is way way worse than Gaddafi. Saddam developed iraq but started iraq iran war which i won't blame him for much but then started Kuwait war
Hey there, Libyan here. I just wanted to thank you for making a video about my country. It hasn’t been good since the revolution and honestly I personally had a great life hen Gaddafi was in power as did my family but he did make bad decisions when he antagonised himself to the west. What he didn’t do however was sponsor the terrorist attacks. Libya never committed such acts.
I always see two sides of Gaddafi, one says he’s a brutal dictator and the other says he was a great leader, since you lived during his reign and in his country maybe you can inform me on which side is right?
You should search for libyan communities, i recommend the libyan subreddit, but here let me tell you as a libyan myself (i did not live during gaddafi era, but based on my parents, I'm glad i didn't) It's basically gaddafi never really cared for libya, he gave the most basic human life services such as poor housing, food, yeah that's it, average libyan goal in life was getting married and managing to secure food for tommorow, so was he good? No, i can yap to you for a while but that's most of it, he also was brutal as he executed people publicly can left many of his soliders in war when it was over, causing them to die, he was so dictatorship anybody who opposed him was dead, no freedom, his ideology was also very stupid, one of the lines i find most ridiculous in his green book is that "if you live in a house, it's yours" which meant that if you're selling rent at gaddafi's regime you're done, which caused many landlords to go bankrupt, and and and and, i think you got the hang of it, I honestly don't know why people say they lived good under him like all i hear is bad, anyways if you wanna ask anything be sure to tell!@@Meesens
@@gmplus9842Hey man I disagree, I'm Algerian but I went to Libya in the twilight years of Gaddafi's reign and he was definitely better than what you guys have now. Under Gaddafi, Libya was the single most prosperous nation in Africa, you had free electricity and the great man made river provided consistent water for people who live in the Sahara. Gaddafi was definitely hard handed and did execute 10000 Libyans over the course of his reign. But the civil wars that ensued after his deposition caused significantly more death and degradation of standards of living. I honestly wish we had a man like him in Algeria instead of all the corrupt grifters we've had since Ben Bella.
@darkdestroyerza2381 electricity is still free lol, also electricity wasn't really free back then, it was just very cheap, it was also bad tho, but people in libya didn't use electricity that much so they never had much outages, And the manmade river was a joke, there were much better projects he could do, and he never even finished it, He also lied that Libya was drying back then, he just said that to sound like a hero
fun story to add on about gadaffi being a woman enjoyer: not only was his entire guard women but his barber was a bosnian serb woman, when they were about to start, she asked him if she could sit down to do it better, he froze and eventually said sure, a couple minutes later he said “no one ever had the courage to ask me that”
@@MemovoxNope, that's not how geopolitics works. If the US fully evacuates Syria, Russia, Turkey, etc aren't just going to follow their lead. They're going to take up the power vacuum that was left by the US leaving. When Trump pulled US forces out of the Kurdish zones in Syria, it immediately lead to Turkey sending its forces in.
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it.. Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who.. 1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS 4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS 5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone.. He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911.. He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US.. He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli.. He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars.. He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
If u mean post gaddafi, well not much, Mainly civil war, a lot of it, and no one gained control over libya as it wasn't set before, so it lead to libya dividing in 3, and now it's a struggle living here but hopefully things will get better atleast there's a slight hope
12:21 What is British South Arabia? Yemen united decades ago Oman received independence and lost Zanzibar sometime in mid 20th century The trucial states became the United Arab Emirates Why is a 2011 era map representing 1941 era states
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it.. Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who.. 1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS 4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS 5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone.. He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911.. He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US.. He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli.. He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars.. He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
@mbrproductions160 you telling me that the guy that proudly proclaimed that he was training and arming terrorist groups didn't know that those terrorists were going to commit terrorism
@mindob766 Let's say you're right, but compared to the illegal invasions and indiscriminate bombings of civilians by the West? Or are we selective on who counts as victims and others collateral damage?
NATO propaganda my friend, we have many Libyans here in Ireland and I've spoken to many, this is not how they viewed the Jamahirya, they miss the brother leader
He funded various terrorist groups and one of which was able to blow up 300 us veterans because of His funding. He also executed his political enemies so great going. Gaddafi shouldn't have angered the whole world, then blame the world for taking revenge on him.
@@DaēnāVanguhi exactly nato's propaganda,Poland knows to play the victim telling that they were victimized in the past ,then why did they send fighter jets to bomb Libiya
And all it took to achieve that was absolute obedience on the threat of death. Those conditions were not going to last, and were already starting to crash, which is what kicked off the revolution to begin with.
@@Meltorizor It did. When I was 11 I thought a revolution was just like any other war. I didn’t understand that a civilian population could rise up and completely destroy their government. Thats what I learned from Libya.
Gaddafi was a crazy individual, but he was nowhere near as brutal as Hussein or Assad, the guy did many things wrong, both politically and strategically, that ultimately contributed to his demise, but the fact remain that it was US, UK, and FR all along wanting to end him.
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it.. Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who.. 1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda 3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS 4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS 5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone.. He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911.. He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US.. He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli.. He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars.. He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
No mention of a very important piece. The most important of all reasons why this occurred.... gaddaffi no longer wanted to accept petro dollars for oil but instead gold. Libya had the most gold in africa. Wanted to create a gold currency 'dinar' and wanted to not only accept gold for his oil but a currency for apl africa. Going against the dollar equals regime change at all costs
A gold-backed currency had failed. It's an artificial hamstring on the government and leaves them completely unable to respond to any sort of crisis. I bet 30 bucks that covid would have resulted in a 2nd Depression if we were still on the standard
Well, in what way could the country's issues have been fixed? boom boom guillotine rage doesn't do anything when there's not an actual plan, i doubt the rebels had any idea of how to acheive what they were fighting for.
Am algerian , and i certainly confirm that Libyans had a better life than now , as i know the government gave a monthly salary to anyone who doesn't work ( most of Libyans ) they were the rich people in the region
Yea but he shouldent have spread terrorism. Literally every country invaded by the west had done something wrong against the west but people act like they were angels and the big bad west hungry for oil comes and bombs them
"I am an international leader, the dean of the Arab rulers, the king of kings of Africa and the imam of Muslims, and my international status does not allow me to descend to a lower level." -- Muammar al-Gaddafi
Because he ruled it with an iron fist. When he fell, the state fell. Political desertification for forty years is what made Libya disintegrate and disperse east and west, but as an entity it will not fall and will never fall. It will lean and will not fall 🇱🇾
I remember this happening when I was in school. They talked about the Arab Spring on the news a lot. Kids at school made jokes about Gaddafi's death. I hope they manage to find peace in Libya soon. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Allah is the only one we believe in. We don't believe your superstitions. Allah who is with us wherever we are, and not the myths of your dead God, the sheep struck on the back of the head. We ask allah Almighty to protect us from your superstitions 🇱🇾☪️ 👞✝️👞
Fun fact : the nation of Togo had invited Gaddafi to leave his country during the end of his leadership but his only private pilot had faked a sickness to meet his daughter days before being killed
I remember when he died I was 11 years old, I remember how much France 24 used to tell us that he was a bad man, I remember watching him being dragged in the streets of his capital, they killed him for power it sad. Libya is worse then ever.
And none of Gaddafi's crimes against humanity popped into your head? The problem was that he misused his power and even his greatest accomplishments were built on shaky sand. If you’ll recall the Second Civil War was just around the corner.
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Arab spring was western sponsored terrorism
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This is a perfect example of having no allies and many enemies
gadaffi lost all his (worthwhile) allies with the end of the cold war
When the Empire/Nato comes a calling you can guaranteed the war was planned in terms of deployment of clandestine assets. Coordination of weapon shipments from Sudan. The diplomatic preamble was well orchestrated by Hillary Clinton. The pressure applied on its neighbours and the exploitation of the Arab Spring which very well been psy op that toppled or weaken hostile powers to the US and Israel.
He should never listened to the honeyed words of Tony Blair and kept his wmds and nuclear weapons programme.
@ernstschmidt4725 and his enemies too. Libya has normalized relations with the west post-9/11.
What Allies could he even get after the cold war?
@ernstschmidt4725 Soviet union also didn't like gadaffi that much.
Funny how the arab spring was meant to stop all the problems that people in the affected countries suffered. How ironic
it was viewed from a Western perspective, many of those countries have completely different cultures to the West, Democracy is not a system that will work everywhere, people don't understand that
Arab spring was for the most part the CIA conducting color revolutions.
Gaddafi and Hussein were not good men, but they maintained order and stability in their respective countries. Fast-forward to today, Iraq and Libya are power vacuums in constant states of war. Western intervention hasn't had a great history in the Middle East...
@@shutup2751It's not that democracy didn't work, it was simply too slow in it's implementation.
Seeing as how it was a foreign concept to them, building it in from scratch was nothing short of near impossible.
@@shutup2751its hard to build a nation when there aint no nation
Libyans are literally the Eric Andre meme, where they shoot Gaddafi and then turn towards the camera and say "why did Americans kill Gaddafi?"
The anti-America crowd believes that foreigners don’t have agency
Huh? There were massive pro-government protests and lots of Libyans fought for and supported Gaddafi. The point they’re making is that the US gave a massive advantage to the anti-government side which allowed them to kill Gaddafi etc etc. without US support it’s very likely the anti-government side would have been defeated.
Honestly the most accurate description of Libya.
Because they didn't kill gaddaffi, it was a US backed rebel group made up of foreign fighters from around the region, very little was from Libya and very little were calling for a violent overthrow...you only think so because for some reason you believed the western media that sold it all as "the Arab spring"..
How nice of a name for a period of time that killed millions all for the advancement of US hegemony in the region
king kabz productions made a good video on gaddafi's death
Libya has still not recovered from this
And will never recover. They will forever regret siding with the West against him
Honestly, I have no sympathy for Libyans. They had the highest standard of living in Africa and they still chose to kill him in favour of some ridiculous theocratic state that NEVER works.
Libya will never recover from being Libya.
@@The13thRonin They were still Libya before Gaddafi's death, and the standard of living was objectively higher when he was around.
@@joeykelly5642 this is true
Libyan here and I’ll summarize it for you guys, gaddafi was by no means good but he’s better than what we have now.
Say thank you to the American neoliberals, because of which most of your compatriots are in the bad situation they are in now.
@@My-name-is-user-tx6ow1ss3b USA, is the godfather of global terrorism.. "Peace keeper " Behind this statement, world's most ruthless murderer criminal. .
@@My-name-is-user-tx6ow1ss3bas if gaddafi wasn't already a dead man walking. It's like blaming the US for the current Iranian regime with many Iranians missing the days of the shah. The us just went with the flow and sided with the group they thought would win.
@@manipulatortrash I blame the Americans for the Islamic revolution that took place because of the coup that brought the Shah to power, a coup against a democratic country. In truth, it is a "stronghold of democracy".
@@manipulatortrash I blaмe the Americans for the Islamic revolution that took place because of the coup that brought the Shah to power, a coup against a democratic country. In truth, it is a "stronghold of democracy".
Toyota sales that day: *Stonks*
facts lol
Nah i live in the capital and every single police station has like five with machine guns its crazy
XD
😂
i have never met a libyan that was happy about Gaddafis killing. My best friend is Libyan. Him and his family say life was so much better in Libya under Gaddafi compared to now.
this channel and many others are just plain dumb and just have a platform to say dumb things
So suprising because the vid lists some clear issues libya had then coupled with the fact he was a literal dictator. Guess that shows what a mess it is now I guess
Hindsight is 20/20. Libyans then wanted him gone, and got it done. But dictators that hold on to power to the very end leave a mess that can take decades to get out of without massive foreign support. People now will say life was better under Gaddafi, because conditions are worse. But don't think as much about what was happening to Libyans under Gaddafi that thought it should be better.
If that revolution didn't topple him, the country was already in an economic spiral, and a different uprising or fracturing would have happened instead
The lesson is that things can always get worse.
@@Lyraorganumthat’s a terrifying way to think
*200 people where killed*
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I was litrly at 5:44 when i read this lmao
What is the original amount?
Griffin out of context be like:
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it..
Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who..
1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS
4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS
5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone..
He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911..
He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US..
He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli..
He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars..
He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
Clicked faster than Anglo Zanzibar war lasted
It took you
Sultan of Oman lives on Zanzibar now~
You just compared speed to time…Faster than Grant took Richmond…
@@ReySchultz121 That's where he lives now
“Zansibar”????
😂😂😂😂😂😂
"What's this my sons what are you doing" -gaddafi last words
king kabz productions made a good video on gaddafi's death
"Help, I'm stuck in a drainage tunnel! Wait, stepsons. What are you doing?"
- Gaddafi
@@SpaceMonkeyBoi gaddafi's hiding place
@@SpaceMonkeyBoifunny becaus he got assraped with a stick
@@Vent5334 fantastic suggestion... Shame what the West did there, but sadly no surprise. Has been going on for 100's of years
I really wish TH-cam would get its act together and stop demonetizing history. This is my favorite channel but it really sucks only getting content occasionally and sometimes missing it entirely from demonetization.
Seriously. This and other channels I like.
That also happens if you dare criticize the U.S. Colonial Pet project.
In just clicked through the last year of uploads and all of them include ads though??
youtube is corporate censorship
Im libyan and i agree dude
Assad learned from Gaddaffi and Saddam
He was lucky to have Putin in his corner at the time
the difference is only the west dislike assad where gaddaffi and saddam pick a figh with everyone
@@teknoindo Assad was and still is disliked by many, just that he has Russia and Iran backing him.
@@teknoindonot rlly. Saddam and Gaddafi were also pro Russia actually. Russia was not a major power broker in 2003. And wasn’t that interested in saving Gaddafi in 2011 tho
@@suleyman8696 Yeah but Gaddafi was backed by Belarus for a while.
This will certainly be a civil comment section full of rational and well-researched discussion.
undoubtedly
Aware
Presently I say, gentlemens
Mostly likely not unfortunately gentlemen.
I wanted to ironically respond angrily, but then I saw that your profile picture is Pope Leo XIII. I can’t be not friendly to someone who likes Pope Leo XIII.
Have a good day!
Gaddafi definitely had Chad flashbacks when he saw those Toyotas
gaddafi had a gaming room in his drain pipe
Every time Gadaffi is mentioned all i can think of is the United States of Africa meme lol
Ironic since he had no problem supporting RUF terrorist group in Sierra leon where they would cut off random civilians hand ofd
Which actually had a chance
@@lightstar1053 uh huh
@@lightstar1053i don’t see how, Gaddafi failed in unifying his immediate area of North Africa. The whole continent, especially non Arab countries, would be almost impossible or lead to an immediate civil war due to a power struggle
@@lightstar1053i don’t see how since Gaddafi failed at unifying his immediate area of Northern Africa. The rest of Africa, especially non Arab states, would be almost impossible to unify or immediately lead to a civil war
I remember when the same thing happened in Egypt under Mubarak. The difference there was that the security forces had the decency to hold their fire and not murder their fellow Egyptians
In Libya Gaddafi (just like Assad in Syria) had all control over the state. That’s why Libya still haven’t fully recovered from Gaddafi downfall, once he was out, all state institutions went off
As an Egyptian, I can say that Egypt was a mess back then - but at least our agencies were able to hold the line. The protests' demands were met, President Morsi was finally removed from office and many of his supporters had proven to be infact terrorists. The state of Egypt today is not good at all, but compared to our bordering nations in Libya and Sudan, I am damn thankful our military and security forces were brave enough to stop this place from entering a devastating civilwar.
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it..
Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who..
1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS
4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS
5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone..
He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911..
He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US..
He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli..
He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars..
He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
In Libya, the situation is different from Egypt, where a brigade in eastern Libya defected and opened weapons stores and distributed them to the protesters, not to mention the entry of Al-Qaeda on the line.
ROFL. LMAO. They killed Hundres. True is, not so much During the revolution but... VERY important, afterwards. IN the "peace" time. They exterminated leader after leader. Look it up, speak to some egypt people. The amount of missinformation is crazy.
When you see the Toyotas coming, then you know it's over
One of the best examples of "You don't appreciate what you have until you lose it".
Always look forward to these Saturday uploads
It's honestly sad how my country ended up with it's current condition so I'm glad videos like these shed the light on it! Thank You ❤🇱🇾
My aunt's family lived in Benghazi during early 1970s. Her father was a professor of medicine.
Asclepius
Ghaddafi was the best leader Libya had. Now the country is basically a failed state. Great job on establishing democracy.
It’s still better than Syria, where nato haven’t intervened. So…
@@suleyman8696 Syria is more stable than libya now
@@DrLsuBoyMatt no
@@suleyman8696 what history you reading? Almost all main countries in the UN deployed troops to Syria lol
@@IDFKaname7890 Syria has been a proxy warzone for decades
WAIT Was the Admiral General Alladin based on Gaddafi 😂😮
Generally I believe so.
No Gaddafi was based off Admiral General Aladdin. That's why Wadiya supported the Libyan rebels due to Gaddafi not paying Aladdin royalties for copying him.
You mean inspired?
Yes ? Wasn’t it very clear by now ?
@@InmyMindInmyEyestheLoveweshareNot inspired, but based on. Aladdin legit took some Gaddafi quotes and repeated. « What is the question ? » list goes on
last time I was this early, Gaddafi was alive!
king kabz productions made a good video on gaddafi's death
Neat to see micahistory here, I like your channel.
@@patrickcurtain7173 yo thanks so much bro!
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it..
Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who..
1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS
4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS
5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone..
He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911..
He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US..
He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli..
He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars..
He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
Libya is in ruins but thats okay right? We got rid of the "Evil dictator" Gaddafi
Much better now than under him
That's not true, my guy @GaliciaPheonix-nl8zd
@@GaliciaPheonix-nl8zdlol you’re not serious right?
@@GaliciaPheonix-nl8zdit's better under Gaddafi than now
@@GaliciaPheonix-nl8zd said by someone who has never been to libya.. how is a literal warzone any better
Unpopular Opinion maybe for a lot, and i'm not from Libya so my Opinion isn't remotely as important, but gettingd rid of Gaddafi was a Mistake in Hindsight, it caused and still causes so many Problems not only in Northern Africa but also all over Europe to this Day. And i say that as a Historian.
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
I second that as a Historian from Denmark. Remember his prophesy about what would happen if he wasn't there to stem the influx to Europe..? Also, the destruction of the Libyan irrigation system was yet another NATO crime. Skål!
It was something akin to Saddam. Bush Senior understood the homework, Bush Junior did not.
Or rather, we didn't think the Libyan people would be that divided in leadership and vision.
It was rather simple. Russian meddling instigated the Libyan infighting that followed the fall of Gaddafi. We just didn't want to say the quiet part out loud, since people like to pretend Russia wasn't waging war against Europe and the US at that point.
@@prfwrx2497 So your gonna ignore the NATO strikes in Libya, and that would cause the death of Gaddafi in the most horrific ways possible by his captors.
@@sjsabattis so you're going to ignore Gaddafi sponsoring terrorism against NATO member states for the past 4 decades? There's a reason NATO aided the rebels.
"Help, I'm stuck in a drainage tunnel! Wait, stepsons. What are you doing?"
- Gaddafi's final words
saddam was found in a spider hole and gaddafi was found in a drainage pipe
"I can't wait to take all of Libya's gold while Libya remains a failed state"
- Jewish cabal giving marching orders to Hillary Clinton
In "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2," General Shepherd says:
"The more things change, the more they stay the same. Boundaries shift, new players step in, but power always finds a place to rest its head. We fought and bled alongside the Russians. We should have known they’d hate us for it. History is written by the victor. And here I am thinking we’d won. But you bring down one enemy and they find someone even worse to replace him. Locations change, the rationale, the objective. Yesterday’s enemies are today’s recruits. Train them to fight alongside you, and pray they don’t eventually decide to hate you for it too."
How ironic what happened to Sudan and Syria today, when they were supporting to overthrow Gaddafi... The old Chinese saying "唇亡齿寒" (chún wáng chǐ hán), which translates to "If the lips are gone, the teeth will be cold." This proverb means that closely related things are mutually dependent, and the loss or harm of one can negatively impact the other.
I’m not from Libya so this my personal opinion. But after seeing documentaries about the country, I feel as although gaddafi was and foremost a dictator. He did bring one thing to the nation and the region. Which was stability, vice news did a documentary, in which one man stated, that I fought against gaddafi in the war but if he was around I would fight for him. Libya now is state of corruption and instability but under gaddafi it was a stable nation. It’s almost like saddam Hussein. Although a absolute terrible man and dictator I’m not praising him in anyway but saddam did bring somewhat stability. With Iran and the ex monarchy. The region was stable.
In my country korea there is a person named 'empress myeongseong'. She was a queen that had control over the country in the 19th century. 19th century was a age of change and if korea was to survive it needed change. She insted spent 10% of the country budgets on parties and she attacked any korea politician that wanted to change the country. Because of her peasant rebellion happened and rather than sending korean army she sent Chinese army and gave huge huge economic opportunities to china. Insted of developing the country she wanted to give away rights to china for security while not deveoping the korean army.
When sino Japanese war resulted in Japan victory she sent letters to russia and tried to make russia the new china. Japan noticed this and sent thugs to kill her. Japan thug supposedly pissed on her corpse and raped korean women along the way. Now she has turned into a korea hero who died fighting against Japanese imperialism. She was cancer to korea yet because she was killed by Japanese thugs she was martared. Both far right and far left korean sees her as a hero. When historian tries to say how she destroyed korea far right korean accuses of you being pro japan while far left accuses you of being sexist.
This is how I feel about gadaffi. Gadaffi was not pan arab. He just wanted to become the leader of the arabs. When he didn't become that he threw a fit, invaded egypt, loose and cried like a baby.
Gaddafi was no pan africanist. He helped the france in assassinating Thomas Sankara, a pan africanist leader in Burkina fiso. He supported the RUF in Sierra Leone civil war. The RUF would cut off civilians hand off to stop them from voting. He also brutaly oppressed berber culture. Also he was no pro secular. He supported islamist in Indonesia acheh. After he took power the intention of reestablishing sharia was announced, and Gaddafi personally assumed chairmanship of a commission to study the problems involved. In November 1973, a new legal code was issued that revised the entire Libyan judicial system to conform to the sharia, and in 1977 the General People's Congress (GPC-see Glossary) issued a statement that all future legal codes would be based on the Quran, among the laws enacted by the Gaddafi government were a series of legal penalties prescribed during 1973 which included the punishment of armed robbery by amputation of a hand and a foot. Now did NATO killed him because of the goodnes of there heart? NO! But he was not a good leader!
What stability are you talking about ? These dictators like Saddam, Gaddafi, Bashar Putin, and all the other ones bring is not stability but stagnation. All of the problems you mentioned were created under their regimes, for their own benefit.
Just because a strongman mask the problems to the outside world through propaganda doesn't mean the problems aren't there.
He brought stability to Libya, not to the region at large. In fact, he actively contributed to the instability of neighboring countries.
He developed libya for sure but he supported terrorism in other countries. Like people always mention what usa interference did in Libya but not what Gaddafi terror funding did in the world. Sadly the world is so polarised people only talk about either good or bad instead of both
And same with saddam. Saddam is way way worse than Gaddafi. Saddam developed iraq but started iraq iran war which i won't blame him for much but then started Kuwait war
Hey there, Libyan here. I just wanted to thank you for making a video about my country. It hasn’t been good since the revolution and honestly I personally had a great life hen Gaddafi was in power as did my family but he did make bad decisions when he antagonised himself to the west. What he didn’t do however was sponsor the terrorist attacks. Libya never committed such acts.
I always see two sides of Gaddafi, one says he’s a brutal dictator and the other says he was a great leader, since you lived during his reign and in his country maybe you can inform me on which side is right?
You should search for libyan communities, i recommend the libyan subreddit, but here let me tell you as a libyan myself (i did not live during gaddafi era, but based on my parents, I'm glad i didn't)
It's basically gaddafi never really cared for libya, he gave the most basic human life services such as poor housing, food, yeah that's it, average libyan goal in life was getting married and managing to secure food for tommorow, so was he good? No, i can yap to you for a while but that's most of it, he also was brutal as he executed people publicly can left many of his soliders in war when it was over, causing them to die, he was so dictatorship anybody who opposed him was dead, no freedom, his ideology was also very stupid, one of the lines i find most ridiculous in his green book is that "if you live in a house, it's yours" which meant that if you're selling rent at gaddafi's regime you're done, which caused many landlords to go bankrupt, and and and and, i think you got the hang of it,
I honestly don't know why people say they lived good under him like all i hear is bad, anyways if you wanna ask anything be sure to tell!@@Meesens
Funny he was both lol
The country was safe economy was waaaay better but he did lotta horrible things as well@@Meesens
@@gmplus9842Hey man I disagree, I'm Algerian but I went to Libya in the twilight years of Gaddafi's reign and he was definitely better than what you guys have now. Under Gaddafi, Libya was the single most prosperous nation in Africa, you had free electricity and the great man made river provided consistent water for people who live in the Sahara. Gaddafi was definitely hard handed and did execute 10000 Libyans over the course of his reign. But the civil wars that ensued after his deposition caused significantly more death and degradation of standards of living. I honestly wish we had a man like him in Algeria instead of all the corrupt grifters we've had since Ben Bella.
@darkdestroyerza2381 electricity is still free lol, also electricity wasn't really free back then, it was just very cheap, it was also bad tho, but people in libya didn't use electricity that much so they never had much outages,
And the manmade river was a joke, there were much better projects he could do, and he never even finished it,
He also lied that Libya was drying back then, he just said that to sound like a hero
fun story to add on about gadaffi being a woman enjoyer:
not only was his entire guard women but his barber was a bosnian serb woman, when they were about to start, she asked him if she could sit down to do it better, he froze and eventually said sure, a couple minutes later he said “no one ever had the courage to ask me that”
Will you ever do the Syrian civil war?
Yes, it's time for the US to leave Syria and give back the crops and oil to the people of Syria.
@@MemovoxTbh all outside nations should leave then
@@mrknubbsal Remove the main culprit (US) and the rest will follow.
@@MemovoxNope, that's not how geopolitics works. If the US fully evacuates Syria, Russia, Turkey, etc aren't just going to follow their lead. They're going to take up the power vacuum that was left by the US leaving.
When Trump pulled US forces out of the Kurdish zones in Syria, it immediately lead to Turkey sending its forces in.
@@Julianna.Domina By power vacuum you mean that Syria will join BRICS+ leaving the West even more geopolitically isolated from the global majority?
It would be interesting to see a followup showing what's been happening since.
It’s probably a story you had before.
Dictator ignores domestic problem and it blows up once he is gone. This time it was warlordism.
@@erikthomsen4768
DING DING DING
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it..
Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who..
1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS
4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS
5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone..
He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911..
He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US..
He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli..
He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars..
He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
If u mean post gaddafi, well not much,
Mainly civil war, a lot of it, and no one gained control over libya as it wasn't set before, so it lead to libya dividing in 3, and now it's a struggle living here but hopefully things will get better atleast there's a slight hope
"We CAME. We SAW. HE DIED. *CACKLES MANIACALLY*"
A sick one she is
she still has avoided prison for her many murders and other criminal activity
It's all about narrative. You can talk about murder like that and get away with it cause muh aesthetics and freedom.
One maniac commentating upon the death of another. Fruits from the same basket.
Killary Clinton
Loving all the new facial designs! That's a lot of effort
That's true art, not a fake deceive called ai that lack all the basic fundamentals souless and out of place generated garbage quality
I clicked so hard on this video that the maginot line broke
What does that even mean?
@@4thtime910 Invasion of France 1940
"declared state-sponsor of terrorism, Libya was subsequently the target of several American retaliatory strikes." Imagine if it was like this today
America is the biggest sponsor of terrorism and genocide
We're still doing that today....
Hey hey you dont understand bro Libya was the true terrorist not the usa bro our airstrikes bring freedom bro okay bro?
@@NorthKoreaDefender i hope you're being sarcastic...
Declaring Libyan as a terrorist sponsor state was accurate at that time, tho.
12:21
What is British South Arabia?
Yemen united decades ago
Oman received independence and lost Zanzibar sometime in mid 20th century
The trucial states became the United Arab Emirates
Why is a 2011 era map representing 1941 era states
some shithole ruled by muslims, so it sucks.
The name isnt important
Next up, evolution of Gaddafi's wardrobe / Animated History
I hope uniform history covers that
they could totally do that, he really changed wardrobes a lot in his long dictator career.
As if we wouldn't actually watch that lmao I know I would
Thank you bro hardly ever does anyone mention libya and its history nowadays
People dont know how good Ghaddafi was to the libyan population until he was gone..
NATO: You have my jets.
Qatar: You have my volunteers.
Chad: And my Toyotas!
No, that was Chad, not Sudan.🇹🇩
@@christianbolisca1493 Oh right. Chad.
Such a great video! Ghaddafi is one of the most interesting dictatorships of the 20th/21st century imo. Love to see more documentaries on him.
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it..
Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who..
1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS
4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS
5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone..
He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911..
He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US..
He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli..
He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars..
He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
Mistake at 12:22 on the world map, Yemen, Oman, UAE, Bahrain and Qatar are labelled as British south Arabia
Lol
Is it a mistake, though? Look deeper.
At 12:30 it shows the Halaib Triangle as being owned by Sudan while Egypt actually controls it since 2000
this was a wonderful depiction.
Nice video, I always love your uploads!
Libya : we discovered a lot of oil and gas
USA : 👀 👀
Libya : civil war
🤣🤣
Thanks for reading my comment.
I really didnt expect it.
I just wrote two 10 page papers on this topic. It's super interesting.
do you have a link?
"Illiteracy had been almost completely wiped out" followed by "for most Libyans this mattered little". How so?
As someone from a country with like 300million educated citizens without jobs…. I say it doesn’t matter
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Knowledge is a golden treasure.
Surprisingly, one cannot eat alphabet letters
@@azexnewmai3607 What? There exist no such country.
@@Omer1996E.C AAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
Been to the memorial for Lockerbie in Scotland, thanks gaddafi...
Libya wasen't responsible for that attack, they just claimed it and paid the compensations to get rid of the sanctions
He was framed
@mbrproductions160 you telling me that the guy that proudly proclaimed that he was training and arming terrorist groups didn't know that those terrorists were going to commit terrorism
@@mindob766 When did he say that he was “proudly training terrorists”, give me a quote
@mindob766 Let's say you're right, but compared to the illegal invasions and indiscriminate bombings of civilians by the West? Or are we selective on who counts as victims and others collateral damage?
Are you gonna ever do a vid on the syrian civil war
Free electricity, education compulsory, affordable healthcare, built a canal,free fuel yess this is a brutal dictator
NATO propaganda my friend, we have many Libyans here in Ireland and I've spoken to many, this is not how they viewed the Jamahirya, they miss the brother leader
He funded various terrorist groups and one of which was able to blow up 300 us veterans because of His funding. He also executed his political enemies so great going. Gaddafi shouldn't have angered the whole world, then blame the world for taking revenge on him.
@@DaēnāVanguhi exactly nato's propaganda,Poland knows to play the victim telling that they were victimized in the past ,then why did they send fighter jets to bomb Libiya
And all it took to achieve that was absolute obedience on the threat of death. Those conditions were not going to last, and were already starting to crash, which is what kicked off the revolution to begin with.
@@The_Lunch_Man another propagandu detected 🤣..
Confined to criminal-USA's made-up history only, kiddo..
Nothing about French and US oil interests in Libya, interesting...
Or the fact that actually he had a chance to unify a part of Africa and maybe be able to resist the western empire more than before
fr bro. Like I swr the US isnt even trying to hide it
Regardless of your opinion about him, Gaddafi was one incredibly weird dude.
and a dictator
@@acoknitteruntemhaa decent one at that
@@shubhnamdeo2865 "Decent"? If he was decent then none of what happened would happen...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 If the West didn't smoke meth and make decisions, none of what happened would have happened
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131some people need a dictator to keep them in check. Now the free and liberated Libyans are selling black African slaves. 😢
The guy had some sick drip
I was 11 when this happened. It shaped me quite a bit. It taught me what Revolution meant.
Me too. Only it taught me nothing because I didn’t pay attention to the world at the time. So props to you for maturing faster than me 😅
I was 8, and I remember all of the Arab Spring stuff being insane when it happened. It was wall-to-wall coverage.
It taught you what revolution meant with 11 years? Don't make me laugh.
@@Meltorizor It did. When I was 11 I thought a revolution was just like any other war. I didn’t understand that a civilian population could rise up and completely destroy their government. Thats what I learned from Libya.
@@Meltorizor what are you trying to say? Explain.
Another great video! 👍👍👍
You know you messed up when *other dictators* side against you...
Gaddafi was a crazy individual, but he was nowhere near as brutal as Hussein or Assad, the guy did many things wrong, both politically and strategically, that ultimately contributed to his demise, but the fact remain that it was US, UK, and FR all along wanting to end him.
IC3XR Qadaffi was no where as worse and barbarik as Bush, Blaire, Hilary and Obama were, your beloved Westen leaders
@@abstraqtphilosophy7357 what? English please?
@@IC3XR you happy with my English now, slug? 😄
@@abstraqtphilosophy7357 um, no..?
You just deleted your comment, and I still don't know what you were trying to say
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I like the cut to sponsor right after the mention of 200 killed civilians
The last time I was here your videos were well balanced and less biased.
This is pretty well balanced. As well as can be balanced for an objectively evil man.
The rebellion was both metaphorically and (oddly enough) literally a pain in Gaddafi's ass.
That’s foul af
Armchair historian is a shameless propagandist and he does this often.. he whitewashes US crimes, so he is complicit in their genocide.. what's more infuriating is that his government with his support create these "fundamentalist" groups and afterwards blame it on Muslims and people buy it..
Take Al Qaeda for example.. The CIA created Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now just look at any one of these conflicts in Muslim countries and see which side is supporting who..
1. Libya : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
2. Syria : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
3. Syria : US funded and supported ISIS
4. Iraq : US funded and supported ISIS
5. Yemen : US funded and supported Al Qaeda
He also blatantly lied about the housing crisis in Libya as there was no housing crisis, Libya has free housing for everyone..
He didn't mention that the "rebels" were actually terrorists, Al Qaeda, who supposedly did 911..
He didn't mention that NATO terrorists bombed Qaddafi's private residence where his family lives killings his grandchildren, literal children and babies burnt and blasted by the US..
He didn't mention that these terrorists crossed the border from Chad and Niger, where they were being trained by the CIA, into Libya to cause the "uprising". Even their Arabic dialect was incomprehensible to the people in Tripoli..
He didn't mention that these "rebels" supported by the "international community" opened literal slave markets in Libya after toppling the government, where they sold Libyan men into slavery and women into sex slavery to other rebels, bought and sold by US aid dollars..
He didn't mention that Libya went from being the most developed African country into a failed state 13 years on and now people just enjoying the fruits of good old western democracy and freedom sponsored by the US and their NATO allies, so called "international community"
Cute canada
Nahhhh I'm going to hell for this one lmfao
No mention of a very important piece. The most important of all reasons why this occurred.... gaddaffi no longer wanted to accept petro dollars for oil but instead gold. Libya had the most gold in africa. Wanted to create a gold currency 'dinar' and wanted to not only accept gold for his oil but a currency for apl africa. Going against the dollar equals regime change at all costs
Yep, thats why they got rid of him.
This is literally parroted by those with no economic literacy.
However, America and the West still insist that their mission in Libya was in the name of freedom and democrac
@@Kededian wha dude no country helped in ground troops the libyans did it
A gold-backed currency had failed. It's an artificial hamstring on the government and leaves them completely unable to respond to any sort of crisis. I bet 30 bucks that covid would have resulted in a 2nd Depression if we were still on the standard
Well, in what way could the country's issues have been fixed? boom boom guillotine rage doesn't do anything when there's not an actual plan, i doubt the rebels had any idea of how to acheive what they were fighting for.
Rebels often don’t have clear plans. Revolutions are thus usually quite chaotic.
Qaddafi was a legend and this is coming from someone whos from Libya's historic enemy, italy
Nice Video!
thank god Nato brought Libya democracy, it is so beautiful now
They also seem to bring “democracy and freedom” everywhere they go🙄
Are you being sarcastic
@@danielegabellini aye
I was hoping someone understood the sarcasm
Best open-air slave markets in all of Africa!
Am algerian , and i certainly confirm that Libyans had a better life than now , as i know the government gave a monthly salary to anyone who doesn't work ( most of Libyans ) they were the rich people in the region
Low key Love the sponsors in these vids it’s always something different the variety makes my serotonin go brrrrrr
Say what you want about Gaddafi, but Lybia was 100X better with him. Now it's just a failed and divided state with no prospect of future whatsoever.
Yea but he shouldent have spread terrorism. Literally every country invaded by the west had done something wrong against the west but people act like they were angels and the big bad west hungry for oil comes and bombs them
nah ur wrong as a libyan who goes libya ive seen major diffrences in the past few years even though its a little late
it's a rump state now, democracy is just not meant for everyone
@@Sof_alm Differences such as slave markets on the streets, yes. Statistics don't lie.
@@Sof_almyou’re full of crap
Video should be renamed to: CIA overthrows yet another government for no reason.
Will you do some medieval stuff?
The Botox shots 😂
i was trying to find atleast one person who noticed it, i dont even know why it was put in
12:10 - We’re measuring advisors in tons now?
Always a good time for a movie
it's a prugrum, a movie
this happens if you try to make a independent banking system without having nukes
Interesting video very well made thank you
Greetings Armchair Historian, can you please throw some light on Libyan Civil War in which Khalifa Haftaar was involved I'll be grateful
Thank you
"I am an international leader, the dean of the Arab rulers, the king of kings of Africa and the imam of Muslims, and my international status does not allow me to descend to a lower level."
-- Muammar al-Gaddafi
I wonder if any of them would agree to that.
NTC:NUH UH
kinda hurts when you see pics & videos what libya was like before and what libya is like now
It's The Fall Of Libya, Not "the fall of Gaddafi"...
Libya never fell as a country, the regime simply changed
@@enriqueperezarce5485False. It Fell As A Country And Now It's A Free For All While Being A Open Gateway From African Migration...
Because he ruled it with an iron fist. When he fell, the state fell. Political desertification for forty years is what made Libya disintegrate and disperse east and west, but as an entity it will not fall and will never fall. It will lean and will not fall 🇱🇾
@@_sizer_lyGood Luck Uniting All Those Tribes When You Have NATO Actively Invests Billions Of Dollars To Keep Libya Destroyed...
Good jop , I hope you make more videos about Libya 🇱🇾
I can't imagine living in that kind of chaos.
All That Happened because of the st/pid b@stard p/g son of a w$ore Muammar Al Gaddafi
Long live Armchair Historian!!!!!
Long Live Absolute World Peace
The fact that oil was discovered in Libya AFTER it became independent from Italy is so funny. I think you know why. 😉
I remember this happening when I was in school. They talked about the Arab Spring on the news a lot. Kids at school made jokes about Gaddafi's death. I hope they manage to find peace in Libya soon.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Funny how the Arab spring just brought about the worst entities, the "moderates"
Allah is the only one we believe in. We don't believe your superstitions. Allah who is with us wherever we are, and not the myths of your dead God, the sheep struck on the back of the head. We ask allah Almighty to protect us from your superstitions 🇱🇾☪️
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Fun fact : the nation of Togo had invited Gaddafi to leave his country during the end of his leadership but his only private pilot had faked a sickness to meet his daughter days before being killed
Lmao
Gaddafi's finally gone! Libya's going to be better from now on, right guys?
Guys?
Very insightful
This was a very well made and informative video 👍
4:13 was not expecting a star wars reference in this video
Getting rid of Gaddafi was a tragic mistake for Libya.
Misspelled jewrope...😂😂😂
And now the PM wants to reinstate the monarchy...
Long Live The King
Better than the current situation in Libya
I remember when he died I was 11 years old, I remember how much France 24 used to tell us that he was a bad man, I remember watching him being dragged in the streets of his capital, they killed him for power it sad. Libya is worse then ever.
king kabz productions made a good documentary on gaddafi's death
And none of Gaddafi's crimes against humanity popped into your head?
The problem was that he misused his power and even his greatest accomplishments were built on shaky sand. If you’ll recall the Second Civil War was just around the corner.
@@erikthomsen4768 name a few
@@erikthomsen4768 Libya now is ruined nation
They lied and said how he was giving his soldiers Viagra to rape women and to this day no one has found proof of that
Really good historical documentary
8:35 Over 30 years? I mean technically yeah, but it was over 40 years.
that is the western narrative of how the situation was in Libya
12:59 Gaddafi getting injected to do the mewing