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My father was drafted out of Lithuania for this war. When we came to America he was astonished to see America get it's boots in the same muddy mess the soviets did.
It was not at all the same, we successfully overthrew the Taliban by the end of 2001 and established a presidential republic. It was entirely the fault of cowardly Afghans who gave up without a fight that the republic doesn't exist anymore, the US has no responsibility for that.
@@kidfox3971 crazy that the soviet puppet state lasted longer then yours. The soviet one limped on for 2 years, you didnt even manage to leave the country before kabul fell
“In 1979, the Soviets thought they should have their own Vietnam, and they invaded Afghanistan to prevent a US-sponsored Islamic insurgency, and in response to these various crises, Olympic Games were boycotted.” Oversimplified
6:00 My dad was participating in the operation "Storm 333" as he was given an order to secure Kabul Airport perimeter while Spetsnaz stormed Amin's Palace. He guarded the Airport for over 2 years until in 1981 he was sent back home. His main objectives were to coordinate artillery and helicopter strikes to the mountainous terrain by sending radio signals. Basically, he was doing reconnaisance for the artillery and infantry in the Panjshir Valley and Kabul region
You need to watch this then. It's a super detailed video about Storm 333. You might see your dad's name pop up there as well. th-cam.com/video/s81vlFaLZs8/w-d-xo.html
@@TheResilient5689 there are no peaceful situations in Afghanistan always dangerous... and his father did fight.... my father was tank crew in 1976s and in 80s he said that they were no peaceful situations in Afghanistan because whether civilians would kill you and do called mujahideen would kill you too
I'd be careful what you post regarding this OP, as your father likely spilled classified Soviet information to you, which would endanger him and yourself legally in the eyes of the Russian federation. Classified Soviet operations and material remain classified by the Russian Federation. You mentioned means and methods used in clandestine operations, which even 40 years later can be significant. There remains classified material predating WWII for the same reasons.
Ancient Persia? The Achaemenids didn't force their beliefs and culture upon the Pastun people. They only require annual tribute Afghanistan didn't rebel against Persia. A few of them integrated Zoastrinism into their beliefs
The 50s and 60d were prosperus and atabel. The king had liberlsized the nation. One famous phot is that of college cgrisl in wester styleetnak tops and skirts going to university.afgahanistan had so much potential
50s and 60s was pretty good for the Afghans as they were experiencing modernization, going to westernised schools and women were far more free then current women in Afghanistan. In fact it was a popular tourist destination for Americans especially hippies Many middle eastern countries in those times were on the up but war and political upheaval destroyed it all
Sometime during the Soviet-Afghanistan War the Legendary known as Hero Big Boss returned to the battlefield apparently from death as a mercenary under the banner of his own force called the Diamond Dogs. Some Soviet soldiers were reported missing only to be found in the ranks of Diamond Dogs. Soviet combat reports stated that Big Boss had a horn over his eye and was rumoured to be a key person responsible for the soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan. I'm sure that some of you have heard at least some of the stories of Big Boss's activities in the region.
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Most people remember Vietnam War between Vietnam and America , and yet, they didn't know about Sino Vietnam and china conflicts later from 79 to 90s "most records said from 79 to 83 but in fact it doesn't"
“While the Soviets expected to be greeted as liberators, what they found was the Afghan People United against them.” Wow, as an Iraq War vet that sounds a lot like what happened to us. Republican President Bush sent us in, we were told we’d be greeted as liberators, and we found that we were mired in an insurgency for a decade.
I remember in 2004, a news reporter asked an American soldier on TV, how confident he was in pacifying Afghanistan. He replied that he was very confident because, "we're not the Soviets."
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What other 70,000 losses? The Soviet army lost 14,000 people in 10 years of war, the author simply combined the losses of the Afghan army with the Soviet ones
He may include also wounded and deserted. Usually, in most countries (apparently not in Russia/the USSR), "casualties" is a figure combining KIA, WIA and MIA/POWs.
The USSR has Afghanistan, The USA has Vietnam, France has Algeria. They are united by the fact that these countries lost primarily politically, and not militarily. У СССР - Афганистан, У США - Вьетнам, У Франции - Алжир. Эти объединияет то что эти страны проиграли прежде всего политически, а не в военном плане.
The British has south Africa. The Germans have yugoslavia Israel has Lebanon Turkey has Armenia China has Taiwan Vietnam has Cambodia Japan has Burma India has Bangladesh The list goes on and on of major nations failing in smaller weaker states and being totally embarrassed
@@tiendungpham8139 they did. They withdrew after not being able to stop the insurgents. If they did not fail then neither did the soviets in Afghanistan since they successfully pulled out and replaced the goverment.
@@dirtysniper3434 Bro the dude you're talking to is Vietnamese, he knows what he's talking about. Vietnam occupied Cambodia for a decade and defeated China incursion into vietnam. Vietnam single handely defeated Pol Pot and Khmer Rouge. You are right though, Vietnam's "Vietnam" was indeed battling khmer rouge.
@@AspieTrips and many of my fellow Americans still do not believe we failed in Iraq or Vietnam. Nationality dose not mean someone is always correct. Vietnam withdrew long after they toppled pol pot. They still were fighting against the insurgents and were forced out ans the government they installed was overthrown. Saying they won would be the same to say the u.s won in Iraq same because the exact same thing happened. U.s defeated the Iraqi military, defeated the insurgents loyal to Sadam. And installed their own government. But just like in cambodia. The new goverment failed and insurgents made it not even worth being their
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@L17_8 I’m a Christian but dude, this isn’t the place for this. You’re making the rest of us look bad. Keep your religion to yourself as I keep it to myself.
@@texenna Yep. Not all Mujahideen ended up being Taliban, but we literally have footage and records of some of the same guys who led the Taliban regime made while they were fighting in the '80s.
I discovered my love of history when i watched Kino Gruppa Krovi with Soviet Afghan footage till this day I find this conflict almost like a view into what the US would eventually face exept longer and more expensive.
@@coletrain6545soviets invaded in 79, collapsed in 91 : 11 years. Coalition invaded in 2001, last forces left 2021. 20 years. Alexandee the great invaded in -330 BC, his empire collapsed in -321 BC.
@@deaghostyt2217 Afghanistan had nothing to do with Alexander's empire collapsing. Also I don't understand your example of the coalition. They took over the country and the countries forming it are still here today. The only problem was that the government they left behind failed but it didn't affect them in the slightest.
@@Th69571 coalition forces left behind lots of equipements which then ended in the hands of Russia, Iran and China. They lost lot of people for nothing, firmly placing Afghanistan in taliban rule and lost international respect while the coalition disbanded as a whole. Also Alexander the Great's empire still collapsed soo after taking Afghanistan and we cant know for sure if that wasnt the cause because, you know it was 2000+ years ago
no one in the west is interested now in what is happening in Afghanistan until 1979, no one in the west knew or wanted to know about Afghanistan. and when the USSR sent troops there at the request of the Afghan government, all the mass media in the west were filled with news from there. how Soviet soldiers allegedly kill Afghans there. which was not true. and remember last year. An earthquake occurred in Afghanistan. thousands of poor people in a poor province died. and no one in the west wrote about them. and no one helped them. This is Europe two-faced. only Kazakhstan sent aid to victims in Afghanistan. no one in west is interested in what is happening in Africa or Afghanistan or in Asia
no one in the west is interested now in what is happening in Afghanistan until 1979, no one in the west knew or wanted to know about Afghanistan. and when the USSR sent troops there at the request of the Afghan government, all the mass media in the west were filled with news from there. how Soviet soldiers allegedly kill Afghans there. which was not true. and remember last year. An earthquake occurred in Afghanistan. thousands of poor people in a poor province died. and no one in the west wrote about them. and no one helped them. This is Europe two-faced. only Kazakhstan sent aid to victims in Afghanistan. no one in west is interested in what is happening in Africa or Afghanistan or in Asia
Relatively little was told, and at the same time with some strange mistakes and claims 1) by Brezhnev times there were 25 members of Politburo. 5 were in favor of invasion, 10 were against, where were the rest 10 members? 2) while talking about Geneva agreements no info is given about the major flaw of it - everyone signed... except the rebels. Like, the second party of the conflict just didn't even participate. And Pakistani officials were quite vocal about not giving a damn about the treaty. But otherwise yeah, total diplomatic victory... 3) So why is Yazov blamed for operation Typhoon? Who said it was him who initiated it? General Vostrotin claims it was decision of the political and not military leadership (which is probably logical judging by the importance of the withdrawal process), namely of Shewarnadze or Gorbachev, with Gorbachev as the leader making the final decision. Or is it inconvenient to make St. Gorby the Democratiser look bad and instead let's put blame on TNO villain? The internal conflicts in the PDPA between the Parcham and Khalq factions are completely omitted, here all the differences between their representatives are that someone is a Soviet puppet and someone is not. Nothing about the Soviet military strategy and its failures either. The sources - Alexievich's dubious book and almost a third of the sources are articles from the 80s, during the height of the war.
@howiehall4622 yes, but this kind of hollow video with like no new information other than which can be found by 5 min googling seems to me a waste of artist's resources and energy
Imo the worst mistake was calling all goverment forces “soviet” even tho most milliatry casulitys and defeats were dra forces not soviet and most offensives seeing only a supporting role by soviet troops by conducting fire support missions or specilized tasked preformed by the vdv and spetnaz. This is like blaming the talbian 2021 offensive a complete us faliure evn tho the afgan army were the one who broke and fleed
Yup. And neither nation learned much from its hubris (the Americans going into Afghanistan, when they should have learned from Vietnam), and the Russians are in Ukraine.
no one in the west is interested now in what is happening in Afghanistan until 1979, no one in the west knew or wanted to know about Afghanistan. and when the USSR sent troops there at the request of the Afghan government, all the mass media in the west were filled with news from there. how Soviet soldiers allegedly kill Afghans there. which was not true. and remember last year. An earthquake occurred in Afghanistan. thousands of poor people in a poor province died. and no one in the west wrote about them. and no one helped them. This is Europe two-faced. only Kazakhstan sent aid to victims in Afghanistan. no one in west is interested in what is happening in Africa or Afghanistan or in Asia
@@eliotness4029 That’s kind of a stretch. The governments may not care about helping them, but individual people are interested in Afghanistan and its history. Don’t make such sweeping generalizations.
@@capncake8837 western individual people are interested in Afghanistan ?????? a lot of western individual people told me they are NOT interested in Afghanistan, Asia, Africa. why nobody knows in the west about earthquake in Afghanistan 2-faced christian
@@eliotness4029 I mean, most probably aren’t, but there are always people interested in history and global affairs, including some in the West. I myself am one. I can’t say I’m constantly following the situation in Afghanistan, but it is something that I look into every now and then. Have a more open mind.
You should do one over the Japanese during WWII, if you haven't already. There's some really dark stuff like the Nanking Massacre and Unit 731-- a lot of people only know about Pearl Harbor, but it's honestly nothing compared to the aforementioned atrocities.
Funny how Saudi Arabia is not even mentioned once in the entire video. Everyone in the west seems to ignore Saudi Arabia's middling in foreign countries
This video is really good. It's even better after you've heard stories of people who fought in this war (my grandfather and friend's father fought in this war on the soviet side)
I have been waiting for this video for over a year because I had to give a talk about it in my history class, I had to give the talk last week and now I see a Video over the war from the armchair Historian 😭😭
So what Ive learnt from this video is that: the Afghan leader had a hard time controlling his citizens so he asked the Soviets for help, but he was assasinated. A new leader was set up, but he was anti Soviet, so the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and toppled him, then inserted their own puppet. The Afghans didn't like this, and a collection of militias known as the Mujahadeen was formed, attacking the Soviets. The Soviets received condemnation from many nations, and UK, US and Pakistan funded the Mujahideen. The Soviets only had control of the cities, meaning that 85% of Afghanistan, which was countryside, was under Mujahadeen control. The Soviets installed a new leader to unite Afghanistan but he couldnt, so the Soviets decided to retreat whilst trying to save face. The war ended up being a disaster, the Afghan government collasped and Afghanistan was under a civil war, and the Taliban took over. The war showed that the USSR wasnt as invincible as before, causing the Soviet government to loose trust from people, and the Eastern Bloc and USSR collapsed. So am I right in what I learned or are there things I got wrong or didnt include? Pls tell me and sorry it was long
Soviet-Afghan War "failure": Soviet troops leave in 1989 and Najibullah's government stays in power another three years, falling in 1992 only when Yeltsin cuts off oil supplies. US-Afghan War success: Government and military crumble spectacularly months after US announces withdrawal, and while American and allied troops are still pulling out.
Their both still a failure, just one helped break the backs of on superpower and the other didn’t. A failure is a failure when your objectives aren’t achieve. It’s why I consider Korea a US victory.
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Griffin Johnsen, would you mind making a video covering the Third Indochina War? It is a relatively overseen event which would be worth to make a video on!
Very glad you covered this war. I feel like the Soviet Afghan war is very underrepresented in history. I have 3 family members who fought for the Soviets and it’s such an interesting and complex war
If the Soviets invaded the Afghanistan. Didn’t they noticed about Iran Islamic revolution the same year 1979. When they invaded them. Same like Vietnam war. 1955-1975. 🧐
RIP To the 75,000-90,000 Afghan Mujahideen fighters, 5,775 Pakistani troops, 1-3 million Afghan civilians, 14,453-26,000 Soviet troops, and 58,000+ Afghan (DRA) troops who were killed in the Soviet-Afghan War
эм, это была тогда скорее гражданская война в афганистане а не советско-афганская. довольно странно что базы душманов были не в афгане а в пакистане что как бы говорит о заинтересованности страны
@@Zacharoni4085No, their still in insurgency, ironically the Taliban have very little counter insurgency tactics, and half of Afghans hate them (especially the Tajiks) then you have Pakistan and Iran who don’t like them either. Edit: their has been over at least 60 major attacks around the countryside and they even attempted to assassinate the supreme leader of Afghanistan, and this isn’t like local countryside insurgency, they actively attack within the cities
The soviets definately achieved more of their goals than the americans did. At least the government they left behind didnt crumble in a week. Nationbuilding is easy when your main focus is centralization instead of democratization.
I’ve seen a couple of comments like this as if it evens matters. It’s like a kid who got a 40% on a test making fun of a kid who got a 30% when they both failed miserably.
@@PudgyFat only thing is the soviets didnt fail considering the regime they left behind outlived them. Not to mention that the russians used the same strategy in chechnia and it worked there aswell. Your comment is the 30% kid trying to act smug infront of the 40% kid despite clearly being worse. And if anything the soviets got a 60%. They achieved all their objectives, meaning they won, so stop coping.
Daod khan was not or had nothing to do with Soviet influences. Not sure where you got this info from. He felt Zahir Shaw wasn’t bringing progress to Afghanistan so he did a bloodless coup.
In 1981 my dad had absolutely nothing to do with this invasion. And reading the comments in this section, he was the only dad who was not directly involved in this war.
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You forgot to mention that Big Boss operated north of Kabul in 1984 in order to stop the development of Metal Gear
This needs to be pinned
And also that's why almost all soviet battalions had most men MIA
We wanted to include a Big Boss refference! But decided to scrap it.
The video made me want to replay Jagged Alliance 2, lol
@@ghost7344 no way, that is pretty niche but would have been cool to rerence as a joke. Love the content btw
My father was drafted out of Lithuania for this war. When we came to America he was astonished to see America get it's boots in the same muddy mess the soviets did.
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It was not at all the same, we successfully overthrew the Taliban by the end of 2001 and established a presidential republic. It was entirely the fault of cowardly Afghans who gave up without a fight that the republic doesn't exist anymore, the US has no responsibility for that.
@@kidfox3971well not entirely and the US is at fault for parts of it so not completely true but sure lol
@@kidfox3971 crazy that the soviet puppet state lasted longer then yours. The soviet one limped on for 2 years, you didnt even manage to leave the country before kabul fell
@@kidfox3971 Pretty much this, the two conflicts are apples and oranges.
“In 1979, the Soviets thought they should have their own Vietnam, and they invaded Afghanistan to prevent a US-sponsored Islamic insurgency, and in response to these various crises, Olympic Games were boycotted.” Oversimplified
Sounds familiar to today with Russia banned from the olympics
Which video is that? There is no mention of a US-sponsored Islamic insurgency in this one.
@AzGunseli it is a reference to oversimplified's video
@@anakinskyogre1037 Ukraine is not Russia's Vietnam. It's just that Tanks are nerfed and advancing into enemy territory has to be done in WW1 style.
@@anakinskyogre1037and did usa get banned for Vietnam, korea, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan?? No, and that explains enough
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My dad was participating in the operation "Storm 333" as he was given an order to secure Kabul Airport perimeter while Spetsnaz stormed Amin's Palace. He guarded the Airport for over 2 years until in 1981 he was sent back home. His main objectives were to coordinate artillery and helicopter strikes to the mountainous terrain by sending radio signals. Basically, he was doing reconnaisance for the artillery and infantry in the Panjshir Valley and Kabul region
If I may ask, how did your father feel himself for having participated in the war at least in hindsight?
You need to watch this then. It's a super detailed video about Storm 333. You might see your dad's name pop up there as well.
th-cam.com/video/s81vlFaLZs8/w-d-xo.html
@@TheResilient5689 there are no peaceful situations in Afghanistan always dangerous... and his father did fight....
my father was tank crew in 1976s and in 80s he said that they were no peaceful situations in Afghanistan because whether civilians would kill you and do called mujahideen would kill you too
Grim times, grim duties
I'd be careful what you post regarding this OP, as your father likely spilled classified Soviet information to you, which would endanger him and yourself legally in the eyes of the Russian federation. Classified Soviet operations and material remain classified by the Russian Federation. You mentioned means and methods used in clandestine operations, which even 40 years later can be significant. There remains classified material predating WWII for the same reasons.
"The 1970s were a turbulent time in Afghan politics." When has Afghan politics NOT had turbulent times?
So very true along with the rest of that country's history.
Ancient Persia?
The Achaemenids didn't force their beliefs and culture upon the Pastun people. They only require annual tribute
Afghanistan didn't rebel against Persia. A few of them integrated Zoastrinism into their beliefs
The 50s and 60d were prosperus and atabel. The king had liberlsized the nation. One famous phot is that of college cgrisl in wester styleetnak tops and skirts going to university.afgahanistan had so much potential
50s and 60s was pretty good for the Afghans as they were experiencing modernization, going to westernised schools and women were far more free then current women in Afghanistan. In fact it was a popular tourist destination for Americans especially hippies
Many middle eastern countries in those times were on the up but war and political upheaval destroyed it all
Before humans moved into the region?
Sometime during the Soviet-Afghanistan War the Legendary known as Hero Big Boss returned to the battlefield apparently from death as a mercenary under the banner of his own force called the Diamond Dogs.
Some Soviet soldiers were reported missing only to be found in the ranks of Diamond Dogs.
Soviet combat reports stated that Big Boss had a horn over his eye and was rumoured to be a key person responsible for the soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan.
I'm sure that some of you have heard at least some of the stories of Big Boss's activities in the region.
that was an ok game
Don’t forget that Venom Snake and Quiet fought off an entire Soviet armored battalion in the outskirts of Kabul too!
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Soviet fail in conflict at Afghanistan in post Cold War and yet later on America meet the same fate but it took over 20 year, what a mad land
The British Empire also occupied Afghanistan twice.
Except the US didn’t collapse ten years later
F***ing Alexander the Great had trouble in the region!
They call Afghanistan the graveyard of conquerors for a reason
@@Deadpoolion They Afghans killed All of the british Invaders accept one so that he could tell the story, if thats what he told you Fear God
Armchair historian putting banger after banger niche war video is what I love to see
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Thanks you so much! People often forget this war but remember Vietnam, Korea, Cuban missile crisis, etc but never the Soviet-Afghan war
Most people remember Vietnam War between Vietnam and America , and yet, they didn't know about Sino Vietnam and china conflicts later from 79 to 90s "most records said from 79 to 83 but in fact it doesn't"
@@Vietnam_Gigachad it’s sad honestly
When was the last time the US won a war lmao geez. All that military power
@@MichaelNguyen-yw5tkIraq War (2003-2011).
@@MichaelNguyen-yw5tk gulf war? America absolutely obliterated Iraq
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That or another part of the globe Nicaragua in the 1980s.
@@kellychuang8373Oooh! El Salvador in the '80s.
British Failure
Soviet Failure
American Failure
Afghans didn't failure themselves? Civil wars through 100 years.
Mongol failure, Alexander the great failure, Persia failure.
@@spardaprowess3277 yes and them
whos next?
@@spardaprowess3277 Alexander scorched the Central Asia. He did not fail there.
“While the Soviets expected to be greeted as liberators, what they found was the Afghan People United against them.”
Wow, as an Iraq War vet that sounds a lot like what happened to us. Republican President Bush sent us in, we were told we’d be greeted as liberators, and we found that we were mired in an insurgency for a decade.
Third times a charme in 2022
…I mean a lot of Iraqis were overjoyed to see Americans topple saddam
They were mad at each other due to ethnic and religious tensions
@@looinrims Nope a documentary later on showed that a iraqi man that toppled saddam's statue greatly regreted that now.
@@fabovondestory Ukrops can't talk when you kill your own people for retreating the SBU was having a field day in Bakhmut with their hatchets.
@@looinrimsthat footage of iraqis celebrating while toppling saddams statue was staged by the US army
I remember in 2004, a news reporter asked an American soldier on TV, how confident he was in pacifying Afghanistan. He replied that he was very confident because, "we're not the Soviets."
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The Americans did get a lot closer towards that goal than anyone had in the past, perhaps the next super power to try will succeed
@@Admirel2 :)
@@Admirel2 Soviets spent 10 years with immense international pressure and 0 allies. The US spent 20 years with full international support. Sure...
This is what I've been waiting for! Thanks Armchair Historian.
United Nations = Together to defend Afghanistan
Afghanistan = F**"k the United Nations
United Nations = Am I a joke to you?
In 1984, the Grandfather wrote “don’t tell mom I’m in Afghanistan.”
Then, in 1994 the Father wrote “don’t tell mom I’m in Chechnya.”
Now, in 2024, the son writes “don’t tell mom I’m in Ukraine.”
In 2014, the older brother wrote “don't tell mom I'm in Syria”
French para 2024 : dont tell mom im in Serbia, Kosovo, Albania
Don't tell mom, I'm in Korea,
Don't tell mom, I'm in Vietnam
Don't tell mom I'm in Afghanistan
Don't tell mom I'm in Iraq
Ukranians write "don't tell mom I'am in Donbass"
@@Bumbledrop Now they write "tell mom I'am in Syria or Africa and not in Donbass"
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“Operation Storm-333” has got to be up there as one of the most badass-sounding operation names
I was actually going to ask you if you could do a video of the Soviet afghan war. But then this shows up unexpectedly. Thanks man.
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@@L17_8 You seem insane.
@@L17_8 is it skip medication day?
What other 70,000 losses? The Soviet army lost 14,000 people in 10 years of war, the author simply combined the losses of the Afghan army with the Soviet ones
He may include also wounded and deserted. Usually, in most countries (apparently not in Russia/the USSR), "casualties" is a figure combining KIA, WIA and MIA/POWs.
@@WangMingGe No, we do this too. US only counts its own - happily ignores the tens or hundreds of thousands of our "allies" that fell.
@@Shyhalu How Dare Say Such A Thing The USA Is Not Callous Unlike The Others
(Sarcasm)
@@Alfonse-dm6htyeah out politicians who represent of perfectly would never be so callous as to reduce live to mere numbers like that lol
If you include injured/missing its 70,000
The USSR has Afghanistan,
The USA has Vietnam,
France has Algeria.
They are united by the fact that these countries lost primarily politically, and not militarily.
У СССР - Афганистан,
У США - Вьетнам,
У Франции - Алжир.
Эти объединияет то что эти страны проиграли прежде всего политически, а не в военном плане.
The British has south Africa.
The Germans have yugoslavia
Israel has Lebanon
Turkey has Armenia
China has Taiwan
Vietnam has Cambodia
Japan has Burma
India has Bangladesh
The list goes on and on of major nations failing in smaller weaker states and being totally embarrassed
@@dirtysniper3434Vietnam didn't fail in Cambodia
@@tiendungpham8139 they did. They withdrew after not being able to stop the insurgents. If they did not fail then neither did the soviets in Afghanistan since they successfully pulled out and replaced the goverment.
@@dirtysniper3434 Bro the dude you're talking to is Vietnamese, he knows what he's talking about. Vietnam occupied Cambodia for a decade and defeated China incursion into vietnam. Vietnam single handely defeated Pol Pot and Khmer Rouge. You are right though, Vietnam's "Vietnam" was indeed battling khmer rouge.
@@AspieTrips and many of my fellow Americans still do not believe we failed in Iraq or Vietnam. Nationality dose not mean someone is always correct. Vietnam withdrew long after they toppled pol pot. They still were fighting against the insurgents and were forced out ans the government they installed was overthrown. Saying they won would be the same to say the u.s won in Iraq same because the exact same thing happened.
U.s defeated the Iraqi military, defeated the insurgents loyal to Sadam. And installed their own government. But just like in cambodia. The new goverment failed and insurgents made it not even worth being their
Very overlooked part of history, glad you’re covering it
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30 years later, those weapons were used against the suppliers (US, UK, Etc)
The mujahideen and the Taliban are not the same.
No weapons that the Soviets and then the Americans supplied to Afghanistan have ever been used against the US or the UK. That's a propaganda myth.
@@Bruh-td7exThe Taliban were the Mujahideen, not all mujahideen became the Taliban.
@@texenna Yep. Not all Mujahideen ended up being Taliban, but we literally have footage and records of some of the same guys who led the Taliban regime made while they were fighting in the '80s.
@@WangMingGe northern coalition that fought the Taliban and later became the Islamic republic were Mujahideen
Americans watching this war were like, "Hold my beer, we can one-up this!"
That exit was bidens eff up.
@@elllo_FJB and FKH
@@elllo_ Plan was made by the orangutan. Remember that.
@@elllo_ no, Trump made the deal Trump bot
@@elllo_ and you lost the war you waged for 20 years hahahaha
I discovered my love of history when i watched Kino Gruppa Krovi with Soviet Afghan footage till this day I find this conflict almost like a view into what the US would eventually face exept longer and more expensive.
Was it from omnistar east channel?
although with far less casualties
@@КомандаЛеви for me yes
Kino is awesome band
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I expected this comment lol
Same.
In my college in Egypt multiple professors take part with Mujahideen against the soviet their trips to Afghanistan was paid by Saudi government
Do one on the US invasion of Panama
This is an outstanding Documentary. Absolutely fantastic front to back
Vietnam is so iconic that any conflict in which a major power struggles against a minor one is called exactly that
7:46 That sure sounds familiar...
and sometimes, even Afghanistan's own grave is themselves.
United Nations = Together to defend Afghanistan
Afghanistan = F**"k the United Nations
United Nations = Am I a joke to you?
There is a Reason why Afghanistan is Nicknamed the Graveyard of Empires
Not according to alexander the great
@@coletrain6545soviets invaded in 79, collapsed in 91 : 11 years.
Coalition invaded in 2001, last forces left 2021. 20 years.
Alexandee the great invaded in -330 BC, his empire collapsed in -321 BC.
@@deaghostyt2217 Afghanistan had nothing to do with Alexander's empire collapsing. Also I don't understand your example of the coalition. They took over the country and the countries forming it are still here today. The only problem was that the government they left behind failed but it didn't affect them in the slightest.
@@Th69571 coalition forces left behind lots of equipements which then ended in the hands of Russia, Iran and China.
They lost lot of people for nothing, firmly placing Afghanistan in taliban rule and lost international respect while the coalition disbanded as a whole. Also Alexander the Great's empire still collapsed soo after taking Afghanistan and we cant know for sure if that wasnt the cause because, you know it was 2000+ years ago
no one in the west is interested now in what is happening in Afghanistan
until 1979, no one in the west knew or wanted to know about Afghanistan. and when the USSR sent troops there at the request of the Afghan government, all the mass media in the west were filled with news from there. how Soviet soldiers allegedly kill Afghans there. which was not true.
and remember last year. An earthquake occurred in Afghanistan. thousands of poor people in a poor province died. and no one in the west wrote about them. and no one helped them. This is Europe two-faced. only Kazakhstan sent aid to victims in Afghanistan. no one in west is interested in what is happening in Africa or Afghanistan or in Asia
Colonel Trautman: we already had our Vietnam, now you're gonna have yours.
Colonel Zeysan: 1 Man Against Trained Commandos Who Is This Man , God?
no one in the west is interested now in what is happening in Afghanistan
until 1979, no one in the west knew or wanted to know about Afghanistan. and when the USSR sent troops there at the request of the Afghan government, all the mass media in the west were filled with news from there. how Soviet soldiers allegedly kill Afghans there. which was not true.
and remember last year. An earthquake occurred in Afghanistan. thousands of poor people in a poor province died. and no one in the west wrote about them. and no one helped them. This is Europe two-faced. only Kazakhstan sent aid to victims in Afghanistan. no one in west is interested in what is happening in Africa or Afghanistan or in Asia
His quote aged very badly since 2001
@@jackhardy3905 It aged even worse in 2021
To survive war you must become war.
do ones for the Lebanese Civil War (1975-1990) and south Lebanon War (1985-2000)
These videos have helped me learn history so much!
7:16 Inaccuracy. The Red Army was redesignated as 'Soviet Army' in 1946
true
7:25
Never ask a “communist” what happens to those who disagree with them
Relatively little was told, and at the same time with some strange mistakes and claims
1) by Brezhnev times there were 25 members of Politburo. 5 were in favor of invasion, 10 were against, where were the rest 10 members?
2) while talking about Geneva agreements no info is given about the major flaw of it - everyone signed... except the rebels. Like, the second party of the conflict just didn't even participate. And Pakistani officials were quite vocal about not giving a damn about the treaty. But otherwise yeah, total diplomatic victory...
3) So why is Yazov blamed for operation Typhoon? Who said it was him who initiated it? General Vostrotin claims it was decision of the political and not military leadership (which is probably logical judging by the importance of the withdrawal process), namely of Shewarnadze or Gorbachev, with Gorbachev as the leader making the final decision. Or is it inconvenient to make St. Gorby the Democratiser look bad and instead let's put blame on TNO villain?
The internal conflicts in the PDPA between the Parcham and Khalq factions are completely omitted, here all the differences between their representatives are that someone is a Soviet puppet and someone is not. Nothing about the Soviet military strategy and its failures either. The sources - Alexievich's dubious book and almost a third of the sources are articles from the 80s, during the height of the war.
@howiehall4622 yes, but this kind of hollow video with like no new information other than which can be found by 5 min googling seems to me a waste of artist's resources and energy
@howiehall4622need more perspective and detail on this conflict. But Afghans continue fight through 1990s.
Imo the worst mistake was calling all goverment forces “soviet” even tho most milliatry casulitys and defeats were dra forces not soviet and most offensives seeing only a supporting role by soviet troops by conducting fire support missions or specilized tasked preformed by the vdv and spetnaz. This is like blaming the talbian 2021 offensive a complete us faliure evn tho the afgan army were the one who broke and fleed
I would love to see a video about the German occupation of Denmark and Norway in ww2
I haven't been so locked in on a AC historian video in a long time. This was definitely a great episode the team put together
The USSR's Vietnam pretty much
Yup. And neither nation learned much from its hubris (the Americans going into Afghanistan, when they should have learned from Vietnam), and the Russians are in Ukraine.
Surprisingly less casualties though
@@WangMingGe d/w/m in Ukraine for the Russia is closer to Vietnam than the soviet invasion of afganistan
@@Chosen_Ash I don't understand d/w/m. I think some parallels can be drawn with both those wars.
Please consider doing a future video on the English Civil Wars.
I love watching videos on British history.
A Soviet-Afghan War video? Nice. It’s often overlooked and forgotten these days.
no one in the west is interested now in what is happening in Afghanistan
until 1979, no one in the west knew or wanted to know about Afghanistan. and when the USSR sent troops there at the request of the Afghan government, all the mass media in the west were filled with news from there. how Soviet soldiers allegedly kill Afghans there. which was not true.
and remember last year. An earthquake occurred in Afghanistan. thousands of poor people in a poor province died. and no one in the west wrote about them. and no one helped them. This is Europe two-faced. only Kazakhstan sent aid to victims in Afghanistan. no one in west is interested in what is happening in Africa or Afghanistan or in Asia
Have a look at 'wings of the red star: the hind' excellent documentary, but some graphic images in it, beware.
@@eliotness4029 That’s kind of a stretch. The governments may not care about helping them, but individual people are interested in Afghanistan and its history. Don’t make such sweeping generalizations.
@@capncake8837 western individual people are interested in Afghanistan ??????
a lot of western individual people told me they are NOT interested in Afghanistan, Asia, Africa.
why nobody knows in the west about earthquake in Afghanistan
2-faced christian
@@eliotness4029 I mean, most probably aren’t, but there are always people interested in history and global affairs, including some in the West. I myself am one. I can’t say I’m constantly following the situation in Afghanistan, but it is something that I look into every now and then. Have a more open mind.
No way I was waiting for this for a long time, thank you so much Griffen and the team!
You should do one over the Japanese during WWII, if you haven't already. There's some really dark stuff like the Nanking Massacre and Unit 731-- a lot of people only know about Pearl Harbor, but it's honestly nothing compared to the aforementioned atrocities.
your videos are so good love watching them just found you today
Funny how Saudi Arabia is not even mentioned once in the entire video. Everyone in the west seems to ignore Saudi Arabia's middling in foreign countries
How did they contribute to the Soviet-Afghan War?
@@Captain-Jinn they called for a Jihad and sent the Afghanis money, men and weapons under the supervision of the US
Arabs are business men they will only fight when thier business is in danger
Nice Video man..
Great video Armchair Historan
This video is really good. It's even better after you've heard stories of people who fought in this war (my grandfather and friend's father fought in this war on the soviet side)
This is a good one i was there 2008-09 OEF
I have been waiting for this video for over a year because I had to give a talk about it in my history class, I had to give the talk last week and now I see a Video over the war from the armchair Historian 😭😭
So what Ive learnt from this video is that:
the Afghan leader had a hard time controlling his citizens so he asked the Soviets for help, but he was assasinated. A new leader was set up, but he was anti Soviet, so the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and toppled him, then inserted their own puppet. The Afghans didn't like this, and a collection of militias known as the Mujahadeen was formed, attacking the Soviets. The Soviets received condemnation from many nations, and UK, US and Pakistan funded the Mujahideen. The Soviets only had control of the cities, meaning that 85% of Afghanistan, which was countryside, was under Mujahadeen control. The Soviets installed a new leader to unite Afghanistan but he couldnt, so the Soviets decided to retreat whilst trying to save face. The war ended up being a disaster, the Afghan government collasped and Afghanistan was under a civil war, and the Taliban took over. The war showed that the USSR wasnt as invincible as before, causing the Soviet government to loose trust from people, and the Eastern Bloc and USSR collapsed.
So am I right in what I learned or are there things I got wrong or didnt include? Pls tell me and sorry it was long
Correct
“You’re not a real superpower until you’ve lost a war in Afghanistan.”
Lol
No
That should become a tradition.
Afghanistan the masters of hide and seek. 😂
ok at the start of the video you said this video has no sponsor... but at 8:15, there's a sponsor...
Honestly, it's disgusting. I have unsubscribed as I cannot trust their ethics anymore. They have compromised their content for another ineffective ad.
There is a reason Afghanistan has been referred to as "The Graveyard of Empires" for generations.
Another great video. This is great work. Thanks for posting.
Nice to see the channel branching out and not only doing WW2 videos.
15:47 OMG IS DAT A TNO REFERENCE
GREAT TRIAL?!!?
IS THAT A TNO REFERENCE !?!!
HOLYSHIT IS THAT A TNO REFER3NCE?????!!!!!!
OMG FUNNI OMSK GREAT TRIAL MOMENT
Tno reference
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Soviet-Afghan War "failure": Soviet troops leave in 1989 and Najibullah's government stays in power another three years, falling in 1992 only when Yeltsin cuts off oil supplies.
US-Afghan War success: Government and military crumble spectacularly months after US announces withdrawal, and while American and allied troops are still pulling out.
Their both still a failure, just one helped break the backs of on superpower and the other didn’t. A failure is a failure when your objectives aren’t achieve. It’s why I consider Korea a US victory.
@@enriqueperezarce5485nonsense , Soviet already decline since 1970s.
@@PeopleunderIt was declining but it is heavily believed that the war caused the Soviets to collapse even faster.
@@IronAntelope841source : I made up
@@Peopleunder That is literally what 99% of historians say? 🤣
I’ve been hoping for a video about this, thank you Griffen! ❤🇨🇦
This video was long in the making,awesome video!
Woo another video let's go!
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@@L17_8 I already have
Thank you AM & team, great video
Next suggestion video: Rise of Taliban
I waited my week, where the new video griff? I look forward to your video every week like clock work pal , chop chop
Watching this before the video gets banned for some reason
I love that you are doing such subjects that arent covered so much in modern media. Really cool!
Yazov mentioned, day made.
TNO femboys, gather around
Griffin Johnsen, would you mind making a video covering the Third Indochina War? It is a relatively overseen event which would be worth to make a video on!
America: Lets give these guys weapons, surely we wouldnt be coming back here
Venom Snake so smooth he evaded any historical records.
That's why you are the best, boss!
Ive been waiting for this one. Im a big fan of the soviet era Spetsnaz.
The modern Spetsnazs are a joke by comparison
@@christiandauz3742 Tell that to the dozens of NAVY sEALs who are mysteriously dying all around the world but not in ukraine. 😂
Afghanistan had its own Spetsnaz battalioks at this time 👊🤩
Very glad you covered this war. I feel like the Soviet Afghan war is very underrepresented in history. I have 3 family members who fought for the Soviets and it’s such an interesting and complex war
If the Soviets invaded the Afghanistan. Didn’t they noticed about Iran Islamic revolution the same year 1979. When they invaded them. Same like Vietnam war. 1955-1975. 🧐
Oh boy, we watching good with this one today
We all know Big Boss was the real reason the Soviets couldn’t stay in Afghan…
15:46 Is that a TNO reference??? 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
RIP
To the 75,000-90,000 Afghan Mujahideen fighters, 5,775 Pakistani troops, 1-3 million Afghan civilians, 14,453-26,000 Soviet troops, and 58,000+ Afghan (DRA) troops who were killed in the Soviet-Afghan War
Thank you
эм, это была тогда скорее гражданская война в афганистане а не советско-афганская. довольно странно что базы душманов были не в афгане а в пакистане что как бы говорит о заинтересованности страны
I remember Sabaton writing a song about a battle in this war. And I was thinking about it a lot while watching this video.
Masoud's son is still fighting the Taliban in Panshir.
No he's gone. He fled the country and the Taliban now control the valley as well.
The Taliban defeated his men sadly
@@Zacharoni4085No, their still in insurgency, ironically the Taliban have very little counter insurgency tactics, and half of Afghans hate them (especially the Tajiks) then you have Pakistan and Iran who don’t like them either. Edit: their has been over at least 60 major attacks around the countryside and they even attempted to assassinate the supreme leader of Afghanistan, and this isn’t like local countryside insurgency, they actively attack within the cities
@@enriqueperezarce5485 Good to know
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So that’s what happened. Thanks for another great video.
The soviets definately achieved more of their goals than the americans did. At least the government they left behind didnt crumble in a week. Nationbuilding is easy when your main focus is centralization instead of democratization.
I’ve seen a couple of comments like this as if it evens matters. It’s like a kid who got a 40% on a test making fun of a kid who got a 30% when they both failed miserably.
@@PudgyFat only thing is the soviets didnt fail considering the regime they left behind outlived them. Not to mention that the russians used the same strategy in chechnia and it worked there aswell.
Your comment is the 30% kid trying to act smug infront of the 40% kid despite clearly being worse. And if anything the soviets got a 60%. They achieved all their objectives, meaning they won, so stop coping.
@@PudgyFat Yeah
I have been waiting for an armchair history soviet afgan war video finally
I want a cookie full of history
Daod khan was not or had nothing to do with Soviet influences. Not sure where you got this info from.
He felt Zahir Shaw wasn’t bringing progress to Afghanistan so he did a bloodless coup.
The "Soviet-Afghan War" was essentially a civil war that began even before the Soviet troops entered
What you can expect Khalqists launching coup and then thinking themselves as Lenin/Stalin?
Русачок пытается оправдать свою красную говно-империю за войну против афганского народа.
In 1981 my dad had absolutely nothing to do with this invasion. And reading the comments in this section, he was the only dad who was not directly involved in this war.
Us learn nothing from Soviet-Afghanistan war.
What would be cool if you did one on the US-Afghan War. Telling us about their failure that lasted longer then the Soviet Union one!
It's similar to how the American invasion occupation and then retreat from Afghanistan happened
Don't forget the British also bailed after failing in Afghanistan.
It is virtually impossible to control Afghanistan due to its geography. No foreign can effectively succeed.
I HAD A PREMINITION THIS VID WOULD DROP I WAS LITERALLY SEARCHING IT IN MY YT 4 Days ago (obviously Nothing there) I'm so glad I can watch the video that I had hoped he would make.
my dad came to America as a refugee because of this war, thank you for covering this overlooked part of our history!
Afghanistan is not a state but pile of rocks.
Finally 20 min format
Graveyard of Empires 💀
YES! Yes! Thank you for making this, this is such a underrated war especially given it would start many world events in history.
don’t tell my mom I’m in Afghanistan
Love this channel✌️