@@M..796Man, you are going to hate me… in the 4 bosses of The Old Hunter DLC… Orphan was by FAR the easiest for me. I finished/played the DLC once and I let Orphan kill me the first time because I noticed that I forgot to switch my blood gems. Came back immediately after and sent him to his mother.
From software is still one of those AAA dev who put love and passion to their games. Btw a dlc that long is basically a "second game". Rather than a dlc.
@@ReigoVassalwell they did say it was an expansion and looking at other expansions like MHW: Iceborne and Cyberpunk expansion they were near the base game play hours
@swag6190 he said about the same size if not bigger than Limgrave. And since Fromsoft likes to undersell there stuff. It's probably gonna be bigger than Limgrave
@@brandonpick1486 Also important to mention that the content on the new map is going to be much denser than it is in limgrave. 10 new (i would assume) unique bosses and multiple legacy Dungeons means there will be a lot less “empty” space in the dlc.
@@RealSash1997 its not a strawman lmao, people are complaining about the $40 price tag, and wether you like it or not, MW3 made its money back. So you do that math
@spacedout4061 yes, lol. As a company for Fromsoft, they generally deliver. Other games I go case by case, but for most, I'll usually just wait for a sale.
@@JB-tx5fm i cant rlly understand waiting for a sale when most games i buy are ones im actually excited for. Do you just not get excited for games anymore unless they are a soulslike lol
Yeah as a f2p I dropped Destiny 2 after a week, it gets boring real fast to do the same missions and not be able to play any story missions because they are behind a pay wall
D2 the biggest scam in history xD 30% of it I'd content from Festiny 1 70% of it is DLC you pay full price for despite not having the content equivalent of a full game EVEN over seasons which you... also have to pay for, aswell as dungeons. 0% of the original game is in there & not returning despite people having paid for it xD
as a long time destiny player, the game has really fell off. i bought every expansion and i still only see myself playing once a year for like a month or two
About 120 hours my first time and that wasn't even everything. After like 2 ng+ to see other endings like 170 hours. A fresh play through from scratch where I actually knew what I was doing and did complete everything took about 60 hours.
@@lemonzest8650 both, I don't think the DLC will only have 30 hours of gameplay, but more and I also think he's just under selling it to subvert expectations
@@juliantavernini6840 it's not a masterpiece it's just a good looking game with good graphics you do know you can go outside and see graphics like that there right?
Historically the test to see if parts of the game get through or not is if Miyazaki can actually beat it. He is actually notorious in the office for being bad at video games, so if he can beat it, the average player can.
I think total it took me 160 hours to beat Elden ring with dlc included. Like 120 in main game and 40 in dlc. That’s one play through with every unlockable achievement. Besides the alternate endings of course. Well worth the 100$ I spent on it. Edit: I’ve never in my life spent over 100 hours on any game besides maybe rocket league.
i think alot of devs really want to bring back the term and concept of expansion pack but marketing and execs would tell them that people would get confused and DLC is just a good general term for them
Expansion pack is the old term for downloadable content so yeah, truly a late 90's gamer indeed. Pretty sure even in the early 2000's as well they still call it expansion pack I guess, until the 2010 AAA games era where DLC began to become a common term.
Miyazaki’s team had so thoroughly earned my trust that shadow of the erdtree could cost the same as a whole new game and I’d still buy it. Their track record is absolutely spotless.
Destiny 2’s next expansion cost $50 for a bunch of reused assets put together Revelations(Black ops 3 zombies) style with no new enemy faction or darkness subclass and most of the cool shit will be locked behind a battle pass and the micro transaction store. Now compare that to the $40 dollar ER dlc. We’re getting a brand new area, new enemies, armor, weapons, weapon archetypes, bosses, etc. The difference is insane.
I mean, all the DLCs for dark souls 2 were kinda lack luster if u were to buy each one as their own thing. All the dlcs for DS2 together is amazing tho. So Idk if I would call that exactly spotless, but never has fromsoft ever disappointed me with any content they have ever released.
Here's the thing though, Miyazaki always sells the length short. He said Elden Ring was gonna be 30 something hours, and my playthrough came in at well over 200. I fully expect a proper playthrough of SOTE to come in at around 50-60, and that's being conservative. Remember, previous docs for Souls-Likes released within a year and always set a new bar, but this one has been cooking for twice as long.
Dlc just means downloadable content. Borderlands has been putting half the game in the dlcs for a while now. And cyberpunk, skyrim, and the witcher have had insanely large dlcs
All of that is part of the experience, I'm not gonna play cuz I'm more of the FPS side (Helldivers 2 is hella good), but fromsoftware games are a clear behemoth on their own. Bloodbourne, DS3 and now Elden ring will truly live to be part of the greatest games
@@robbieschirmer8966 Mostly Dialogue time, the time it takes to beat a boss with 'perfect run', and the travel time between places. There are morebut personally I do think its not really accurate and shouldn't be the main reason you play a game. It does however put a 'responsibility' on studio to prove that the gameplay would at least pass the assumed hours so people can say that it was worth it. TLDR marketing strategy.
@@izumiia_ that may be true, but capcom isn't necessarily consistent in quality with other game series. RE is definitely consistent in recent years but that's with a secondary company who they're just publishing for.
As I said to a friend of mine, Fromsoft is one of the *only* companies who can say to me: "No, our DLC is worth 40$, we worked hard on it and there's a lot of content there, we think it's a fair price" and have me believe them.
@@EuphoricPeanutthe thing that sucks is occasionally their art and animation teams still puts the passion in but it’s like wasted on the boring formulaic predatorily monetized slop they pump out now
Not a fan of souls like games or even elden ring for that matter but shout out to fromsoft for putting out actual quality and not charging you a million dollars for it
@tylerwieman6783 Brother. During the second phase, head glitch his abilities by playing ring around the Rosie of the pertruding rock in the middle of the field. Hope this helps
I dont need it. Not only because i dont have or dont have the money needed. Its just. Once when j am done with the main content. I lose interest. Its different for MMO game. The game is already finnished, i do t have to pay for dlc ( new content ) and The fact that you can trade in MMO makes paying real money for items unnecessary
Took me 75-80ish hours to just beat the first run of the main game. Yes a chunk of that is because I'm bad, but I also like exploring and doing as much side content as i can. Overall, elden ring's base game alone already put me over 1 hour per dollar spent for the main gake AND dlc combined. Well worth.
"Elden Ring takes 50 hours to beat" Yeah like hell it does, I'm sitting here like 100 hours later Edit: I just mean this as a comment, not a correction. I know he said focusing only on main bosses but the average player doesn't do that so the playtime will probably be higher.
@@bamb0049it also depends on how you play, are you rushing from boss to boss, or do you like stop to appreciate the view and details they added to this massive world? do you brute force the puzzles or look up for solutions on the internet? maybe read the lore on every single object there is?
As someone who’s played MW3 and also wants to play Elden Ring, I agree that MW3 is basically just a MW2 DLC so make the game look and feel different (and even then it’s not much of a difference). I like MW3 too but $70 is waaaay too much. Should’ve been around $25-$40 max
Ah Paradox, the company that makes so many DLCs that they're now offering subscriptions for some of their games to be able to play the DLCs without spending a couple hundred bucks
@@The73MPL4R and the fact that these dlc's change the game by 80%, like playing Crusader Kings 2 without and with dlc's are basically 2 entirely different games
I'd advise spending less of your time running around on elden ring and more time worrying about what's going on in the world. Did you know a top security clearance Air force soldier set himself on fire, before this he states "I will not be complicit in genocide" As well as stating something along the lines of "I'm about to engage In an extreme act of protest, but compared to what palestinians are going through, it's not extreme at all" he's lit himself on Fire and yelled free palestine until the flames choked him and made him unable to speak. You ever see someone burn alive? Imagine your brothers and sisters, or your child. Yourself.
@@GunnerWolfe-ks9dsThough the war in Palestine is important, we come here to escape from the dolor of current events The world can be good, and going down rabbitholes on current events is an essential part of being an informed citizen, but you need to remember to get out of Wonderland every once and a while
Well the points about mw3 would be irrelevant but a lot of the info about the dlc would be correct. 30 hours of gameplay goes hard and would in fact be worth your 40 bucks
Thing is, nowadays people IMMEDIATELY ASSUME that a DLC has 0 hours of gameplay in it. Only cosmetics and stuff of the sort. Either that or a playable character if it's that kind of game.
yes, exactly, i saw this on reddit all the time, people boasting about finishing the game in 12-20 hours right after the game was released. when in reality it often realistically took 50+ hours, even 100+ hours, because people played the game while exploring and appreciating the world, try different crafting mechanics, etc while those 12+ Hours people, they play the game as if they're being chased by the Cops or Ghost or something. i'm sure they're skipping dialogues and running all the time in the game they wear that as a pride and had to boast around. like, they're not good enough to be a speedrunner
@@jensenraylight8011even when I decided to look up guides on where to find certain characters for quests, I clocked in around 70+ hours in that game before I finally finished it. Game is crazy honestly, no way anyone could have fun and finish it in 12 to 20 hours
@That1guyTony After it came out most places just sold the bundle of base game and Sunbreak, same thing happened with Iceborne. I've seen people think Iceborne is just part of the base game
Only that God is no longer a single player game? Like what's the point of mentioning it. It's costs 60€ for the Multiplayer and you get the Campaign for free on top. Like stfu Fromsoft ist the biggest L Company of all time reselling the same game over and over again just like Activision. Buuuuuuut atleast Cod doesn't hide it.
Whats wrong with Fromsoft all their games are new every time they release with a completely new world and new set of characters and in alot of cases completely new gameplay, how are games like elden ring and sekiro so much alike that they can be compared to activison games which have a bad story besides for the old games and nigh on the exact same multiplayer, fromsoft makes some of the best games that I have ever played @herrfrau4162
@@herrfrau4162 Only in terms of gameplay at most. They've been evolving in world design at the least. Dark Souls was Metroidvania, while Elden Ring is Open World. Even with the Soulslike gameplay, those are fundamentally different experiences. Same for Pokemon. Scarlet/Violet feels completely different to Emerald in terms of the world and exploration. Still more than CoD has done. So nah, still a W for FromSoft. Plus, FromSoft doesn't have microtransactions. Also, as an aside, why would they not continue to make Soulslikes? They invented the genre and repeated the success many times over, with multiple revisions and QoL improvements over the years. They only went back to Armored Core after more games started filling their niche. It'd be stupid not to capitalize on the monopoly of a popular genre. Plus, comparing Demon Souls, Sekiro, and Elden Ring is disingenuous to their gameplay systems, as they do have many fundamental differences (especially in terms of healing or Posture). They just share a high difficulty and a diverse array of boss fights.
$40 is still ridiculous, and hours played =/= quality, Elden Ring is way longer than Bloodborne and still fails to provide an experience that rivals it in quality.
@@gishgoyim9170Are you saying Bloodborne was a better experience than the Elden ring? That game that never was released on a FUCKING PC and was locked at 30 fps?! If that is what u mean, I guess you never really played Elden ring. And if you don't wanna pay 40 dollars for it.. then just wait for the sale. Either way, it's fucking worth.
I have 2000 hours only with one character. I have never played as a mage, faith or bleed build. This Game is so huge that it's possible that the DLC could make it to 3000 hours for me. 40$ are a joke. But I'm going to get the Collectors Edition at DLC realese so what I'm talking about Money. I sold my soul to Miyazaki. He saved my life. No COD, no AC, no Hogwarts and no fucking FIFA or whatever can do something like that. Fromsoft is so far beyond everything on the market.
Talked to my dad about it, and he said “Yeah that’s way too expensive for just an extra area” “Well, there are also a plethora of new bosses, the area is similar in size to this chunk of the map right here **gestures to Liurnia and Limgrave** and it also comes with a bunch of new weapons, as well as new weapon TYPES, like light Greatswords and martial arts weapons, also adding to the story in a whole new way. It’s also worth noting that compared to what other games charge, this shit is a steal. You could spend $30 on Overwatch and only get ONE cosmetic from that. FromSoftware practically gave us a whole game, for slightly cheaper than a full game.”
@@thebean6496 yeah witch queen was the best expansion bungie has done on their own (alot of forsaken wasn't done by bungie since they were still under Activision) Seasonal model was overdue to be trashed about 3 years ago tho
I bought light fall normal for ~28$ That included dlc + season of the witch. I beat elden ring in 43h killing every boss. 30h I spend just in RON(light fall raid). 40$ for from software dlc is a lot. I remember ringed city from ds3 I just rushed everything to just get to bosses. So 40$ is too much. I think that from software are testing people how much they can charge them for stuff.
Also Fromsoftware is known for their DLC. Every single piece of DLC content they've made is considered the best part of the respective games they're in.
I like how more games seem to be going back to the old "expansion pack" model with one or two huge dlcs instead of like a dozen $5 ones that are half cosmetics
That 50 hours is for speed runners. The monsters are bullet sponges and the only way to kill bosses is hit then thousands upon thousands to millions to billions of times while performing the exact same roll dodge to actually be able to not die in 1 hit. Also the roll dodge is only usable if you buy the $50 DLC. Yup you heard that right you have to spend $50 for a tutorial level single button action. in reality in order to actually play the game you have to pay about $500 for a game that is only worth $30.
Its not a donation man these people are just thinking about themselves. It takes an unbelievably stupid amount of people/ resources to create games now. 40 dollars is the effin markdown. for the Sizable chunk of the game there working on..
I only bought the mass effect one and the dlc buy I don't buy dlcs for games I rarely play I do like the game but I haven't beat it yet and don't buy dlcs for games like elden ring
30hours of gameplay is gonna be a new game basicly. Assassins creed syndicate takes for the main quest only 18 and 30hours to 100% it. The GTA IV mainlines takes about 30h.
I believe you can buy the whole game with dlcs now cheaper I love the blood and wine dlc honestly probably one of the best dlcs in any video game out there
The DLC is gonna take me longer than 30 hours because I’m gonna get lost and explore every single crevice until I have found everything there is to find
@royalscythe6422 yup. Took me about 130 hours to find every cave, catacombs & mini bosses before I beat Radagon on my first playthrough. It is going to suck fighting Mohg on NG+4 after not playing for a year.
if you do a thorough exploration of the map and don’t struggle with bosses a whole lot, the vanilla game is easily 120+ hours of content on your first playthrough. These games also have incredible replayability because of all the different weapons/builds/magic. The dark souls 3 ringed city dlc is the best expansion I’ve experienced on a game and I have no doubt the bar will be raised higher here, especially with the extra time they took to create it
Too bad most of the content on that mostly empty map are just fillers. Dropped it after ~15 hours. Title of "one of the best games of all time" is mostly just effect of good pr. The pvp isn't fun and the balance is not good overall, but maybe they fixed it (probably not)
@@ammoa61sjaoao74 the big castle in the beginning was quite good, and open world with soulslike fighting felt new and cool, but then on the big ass wizard swamp i started feeling i wasn't progressing in the game and got bored.
I wish i could remember what exactly happened, I think I got to some red location, but it was above my current level, I did some exploring and then never felt I want to play the game again
@@frrorus7705 i get your point, i do agree that the reused assets are annoying close to the end game, also the leveling progression, even tho it was a choice to incentivise the player to explore, it is pretty wierd sometimes but if u liked the castle from the beggining, i recomend you to give it another try, there are at least 5+ areas that have a pretty similar feeling of exploring stormveil castle, and are tbh exemples of amazing game desing!
Miyazaki for the DLC said that it’s “at least the size of Limgrave.” Remember, this is the same humble man who said “Oh Elden Ring will take people about 30 hrs to beat.” This is the same game where we thought that the map was going to be just Limgrave. Fromsoft VASTLY undersell their games. Mark my words. This will pretty much be a whole goddamn sequel to the main game.
The amount of content we saw in the trailer alone tells me it absolutely will deliver and then some. Plus, the DLCs have always hid the true final boss. So I know damn well whomever is after Mesmmer will be a brutal fucking boss and I cannot wait for it!
@@TalkedMat bro ALWAYS go to g2a or some similar company I don’t care what you're buying no matter how old or new or big it is ALWAYS search for game keys online to purchase. Like I got far cry 6 limited edition or whatever it's called for like $15 a few months after release. I bought starfield ultimate edition for like $40 Just make sure you buy it for the right system and country, search around for best price.
My little thumb for finding games and content for games and stuff, is how much of my time is this worth, let's say I make 20 dollar an hour and a game is worth 40 I would ask my self if that 2 hours is worth that game and that experience. Most often the answer is no, because I'm not a major gamer.
@westenplatt179 I don't have any disposable cash However I typically decide on spending money based off of how much use or certain increases in things (like how much it'll improve or affect my health physically or emotionally)
@CallytheCalicoCat Technically, the Weeping Peninsula is Limgrave. Kinda like Flame Peak and Mountaintops of the Giants, if Flame Peak wasn't just a respective section of the area, and had its own category in the warp point areas (if u press triangle while in the map, for those who dont know, it opens up all the grace points you have been to, but they are split into categories by area (and they have sections, like how Raya Lucaria is a dependent area, as it is only a big fraction of Liurnia), and you will see that Weeping Peninsula is just the huge, Southern point of Limgrave. A whole lotta yapping just to say that all of Limgrave 3 times stacked with a Weeping Peninsula is 4 Peninsulas + 3 Limgraves stacked on top of each other 😭
This dude is OP. Love your content! He could convince me my boom bean is bigger then my boom boulder. You made some fantasic and funny points in your gaming arguments.
I don’t think literally anyone was saying 40 dollars is too high but 70 dollars is ok to buy a game. defending 40 dollars for a dlc by making an argument that you spend money on other games is kind of idiotic.
Right, and has to give a incredibly biased take with the second “person” he’s arguing with. Like the SSKTJL video, in which he defended it by making the assumption that people dont like games anymore thats why people dont like SSKTJL. Which isnt at all why. Game literally has barely a thousand players and is actively dying.
@@Arrowslinger2I don't usually mind these, but this was just blatantly disingenuous argumentation. It's like going: A: "I think 10 dollars for a burger is too expensive." B: "But you've bought a burger for 20 dollars." WHY would B even do that when they already think 10 dollars is too much?? Makes no sense. 😅
One of the rare chances where the developer's good PR let's me forgive what i would otherwise consider a major sin. Hell, i wouldn't be all that shocked if part of the price tag was that the game was already over budget and never made all their cost back, because the game is THAT fucking dense(good dense, not stupid dense lol) Elden Ring is the only game that I've played on PS4(been an owner since day one) that really blew me away, makes me feel like the game is pushing ALL the hardware on the console, (I'm not tech literate, so yeah I'm sure there's aspects that aren't used that make this statement dumb) and the developer and publisher both managed to work TOGETHER for once and give players the experience they've wanted. Elden Ring is probably the closest I'll ever get to reliving THAT moment from early gaming (i think most gamers would say Mario 64 or ocarina of time gave them this moment, for me personally I'd have to give it to Sonic Adventure because sonic was the shit back before the internet got ahold of him)
fromsoftware could make a 50$ dlc with one boss and it would still take me 30 hours
Accurate description of any soul type game right there
Its an experience thing the more souls games you play the faster you can adapt , except orphan of cos i hate and love orphan of cos …
@@M..796Man, you are going to hate me… in the 4 bosses of The Old Hunter DLC… Orphan was by FAR the easiest for me. I finished/played the DLC once and I let Orphan kill me the first time because I noticed that I forgot to switch my blood gems. Came back immediately after and sent him to his mother.
@@williamcote4208 in my experience orphan took me like 30 tries while other bosses only took me 5 at max
Oprhan was the only boss which made me abandone the game, sell it.
Rebuy, finish the whole game with the DLC and kick the shit out of Orphan of Kos...
$40 dollars for a 30 hr DLC is like a new game
This guy like making stick man arguments for every video, it’s so cringe
@@jessewade1969 you mean straw man? Lol
@@jessewade1969he’s not arguing against a actual person, by definition it can’t be a strawman
@@jessewade1969he’s doing it because people will say thing like that so he makes a video saying why they are wrong
it’s expensive for a boring game
30 hours of dying sounds like a good investment to me
Dying whilst having fun!
Gives me mhw iceborne vibes
Get gud
I didnt buy mw3. I have never purchased a battlepass or a cosmetic. It should be £30 max.
@@jplegend98 that’s not a dollar sign in your comment you don’t get an opinion 😂
"Its about the size of Limgrave"
He lied to us. But he did it for a good cause
Much of it kinda empty though
"30 hours to beat it"
That one speedrunner in the corner of the room: AMATEUR
Plot twist: he was talking about speedrunners
No-hit runners with onlyfocus on main bosses too@@ImLiterallyJustACookieInASuit
Plot twist: he was talking about how long the download would take on a decent connection.
Yeah because speedrunners are sure a good reference to know how long a game is gonna take
Not everyone is a speedrunner but it would be interesting to see a blind speedrun of this dlc.
Honestly 40 $ is a blessing and the devs are the literal embodiment of "we make games to keep our players happy and entertained"
From software is still one of those AAA dev who put love and passion to their games.
Btw a dlc that long is basically a "second game". Rather than a dlc.
@ReigoVassal feels like the old days, speaking of expansions like Tribunal, or shivering Isles.
Almost standalone games indeed.
@@ReigoVassalwell they did say it was an expansion and looking at other expansions like MHW: Iceborne and Cyberpunk expansion they were near the base game play hours
Something Nintendo can never comprehend
@@MikoYae 😭😭😭
40 dollar for a whole new map on Elden ring yeah I’m paying the 40 dollars
It’s only the size of limgrave
@@swag6190it’s bigger then limgrave
@swag6190 he said about the same size if not bigger than Limgrave. And since Fromsoft likes to undersell there stuff. It's probably gonna be bigger than Limgrave
@@brandonpick1486 Also important to mention that the content on the new map is going to be much denser than it is in limgrave. 10 new (i would assume) unique bosses and multiple legacy Dungeons means there will be a lot less “empty” space in the dlc.
Basically a whole new game when you compare to other games for example COD MW 3.
It was not infact, 30 hours.
There goes 57 hours of my life, well spent on this beautiful craft of fromsoft content.
“did you get call of duty modern warfare 3”
“no”
*blankly stares at each other*
LMAO fr I hate the strawman
@@zayy4440You really don't know what a strawman fallacy is
@@TSS-nq2ulthe example here is quite literally a straw man though
@@TSS-nq2ulGo back to school and learn what a strawman argument is.
@@RealSash1997 its not a strawman lmao, people are complaining about the $40 price tag, and wether you like it or not, MW3 made its money back. So you do that math
Kratos speech was longer than CoD's campaign.
Cod gives more fun and thrilling experience
@Blitzkers99 Hahahahahaha.......
No
@@Blitzkers99no
@@Blitzkers99 who told you that 😭😭😭
@@Blitzkers99nobody liked your comment at the time I’m writing this. says alot
"40 dollar dlc is too much"
Sims 4: "allow me to introduce myself"
Lol so true
Why isThe Sims prized like a Paradox Interactive game or niche train simulator?;😅
A fucking thousand dollars if you want all the DLCs 😭
@@Juxta... A pirates life for me!
DCS be like
Best $40 I ever spent. I’m still having fun with it.
Over a month later and I'm still enjoying SotE
Fromsoft is probably the only company whose games I'd pay full price for. They actually deliver.
Have u played any other games
@spacedout4061 thinks he speak for AAA games indie have a lot of gem
@spacedout4061 yes, lol. As a company for Fromsoft, they generally deliver. Other games I go case by case, but for most, I'll usually just wait for a sale.
@@JB-tx5fm i cant rlly understand waiting for a sale when most games i buy are ones im actually excited for. Do you just not get excited for games anymore unless they are a soulslike lol
@@spacedout4061hard to get excited nowadays, ever AAA game is just disappointing
“40$ for a DLC is wayyyy too expensive”
Destiny content being 90% DLC 🗿🗿🗿
Yeah as a f2p I dropped Destiny 2 after a week, it gets boring real fast to do the same missions and not be able to play any story missions because they are behind a pay wall
Destiny lol what a catastrophic game
We don't....we don't wanna talk about it :(
D2 the biggest scam in history xD
30% of it I'd content from Festiny 1 70% of it is DLC you pay full price for despite not having the content equivalent of a full game EVEN over seasons which you... also have to pay for, aswell as dungeons. 0% of the original game is in there & not returning despite people having paid for it xD
as a long time destiny player, the game has really fell off. i bought every expansion and i still only see myself playing once a year for like a month or two
Bro just won an argument against himself
Bro is fighting his inner demons
fr
You’re joking right? lol
fr we finally reached that point where we just post our shower arguments as shorts...
Winning shower arguments is like half the content modern streamers put out.
Devs: "should take about thirty hours to complete minimum."
Speedrunners: "aight bet."
"Elden ring takes 50 hours to beat"
Bitch, I'm on 68 hours and barely reached the frozen mountains-
About 120 hours my first time and that wasn't even everything. After like 2 ng+ to see other endings like 170 hours. A fresh play through from scratch where I actually knew what I was doing and did complete everything took about 60 hours.
Bro was speed running no upgrades 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I at was at 120 my fist play tru and still just got to Margot 😂😂😂😂 then got Nieled and decided to delete the game
depends on the person i mainly beat the unique bosses in my first play through and it was around 90+ hours
Im in 255hr and I’m in ng+6
Keep in mind too “30 hours to complete” “slightly bigger than limgrave” and Fromsoft is known for underselling and over delivering
"Well 30 hours to complete *if you only focus on the main plot* "
"It is slightly bigger than limgrave, you just....uhh, look at it under UV light"
"Slightly bigger than Limgrave" Why do I feel like The Land of Shadow is going to be around half the size of the whole Lands Between
@@TheNamelessPhoenix Miyazaki being real smug
got the same feeling@@TheNamelessPhoenix
@@TheNamelessPhoenixhalf of it gonna be deathblight and you know it
Lets not forget that Miyazaki is a very humble man. I dont think its just gonna be 30 hours
This is the same guy that advised players to select the pendant in DS1 as their starting gift. I think it's safe to say he's just trolling
@@kyiaao
trolling as in it's not 30 hours or trolling as in he's downplaying hard
I'm assuming the latter
@@lemonzest8650 both, I don't think the DLC will only have 30 hours of gameplay, but more and I also think he's just under selling it to subvert expectations
Just wait for people to review the dlc?
@@lemonzest8650yeah he said these bosses scale Melina and higher so no way anyone running a speedrun first playthrough 😂
Counter arguement: 40 dollars is too much for a game.
True
Nope
Not for this masterpiece
@juliantavernini6840 yep I don't have 40 dolars for a ig cool game
@@juliantavernini6840 it's not a masterpiece it's just a good looking game with good graphics you do know you can go outside and see graphics like that there right?
30 hours for the devs to beat = 50 hours for the average player
16 minutes for us speedrunners lmao
@@skycloud784 with out glithces
@@herczegkristof3963yea true.
16 min but 200 hours to practice@@skycloud784
Historically the test to see if parts of the game get through or not is if Miyazaki can actually beat it.
He is actually notorious in the office for being bad at video games, so if he can beat it, the average player can.
I remember when Elden ring was going to release Miyazaki said that the game would take players 30 hours…
110 hour dlc incoming
Limgrave size but its got 5 underworlds heaven and 57 legacy dungeons
@@hruikanHoly shit a multilayered biome. That's going to be unbelievably dope
Me: 200 hours later 😂
@@scottiecurrie7927with all of the underground levels it should be close to the size of limgrave to leyndall
@@kodyyoung867maybe bigger
“40$ is a lot.”
DCS: “Are you suuure?”
the game about train simulator and his 1654654 dlc his watching :p
Sims dlc's laughing in the corner
War thunder f20 DLC literally 75 $
@@killergg0072in dcs almost every good aircraft is around $80 and you have to buy maps and campaigns separately
@@killergg0072DCS 😢F-15 is literally $80
I think total it took me 160 hours to beat Elden ring with dlc included. Like 120 in main game and 40 in dlc. That’s one play through with every unlockable achievement. Besides the alternate endings of course. Well worth the 100$ I spent on it.
Edit: I’ve never in my life spent over 100 hours on any game besides maybe rocket league.
the fact that MW3's campaign is shorter than GOWR's FREE DLC is crazy to me
Bro Christopher Judge at game awards tho👌
Absolutely perfect
Gowr?
@@fif04 God of War Ragnarok.
@@fif04 god of war ragnarok
@@fif04 ragnarok war of god
“They’re predicting it’ll take 30 hours to beat it.”
Speedrunners: *Is that a challenge?*
This is the worst attempt to be funny i have ever seen
Womp womp @@silascomputer
Slowrunners: is THAT a challenge?
@@silascomputer cope
@@silascomputer yeah, be funnier
"40$ is too much for a DLC"
Sims 4: Y'all hear smthn
This, this is the real true comment
Underrated comment.
"the total cost of all Sims 4 DLC in 2023 comes out to an astounding $995 (USD)"
Wow. Just wow.
Dude this comment is hilarious 😂
@@renzre2254 Its over a thousand including all the other things and for rent... 😐
i appreciate you making these skits, trying to change those people's minds
“$40 is way too expensive for a DLC”
*EA: hold my beer*
Bungie learnt from the best
ea isnt bad anymore would ye relax
Paradox
@@tennisthelegend that's a reach😂
Lmao ea and ubisoft are the literal devil . Can't stand em they ruin games potential
'Way too expensive for dlc'
Bungie: 'what does expensive mean'
Or like every MMO since there Expansion not really DLC there massive updates. New zines , story dungeon, raid weapons, mechanics
@@egbert5871 And from-software DLC is functionally an MMO expansion for a single player game.
Microtransactions
@@egbert5871Tell that to Bungie lol
Why is forsake still for sale!
I'm old enough to remember when these were called expansion packs
i think alot of devs really want to bring back the term and concept of expansion pack but marketing and execs would tell them that people would get confused and DLC is just a good general term for them
so a 90s kid
@@GiftIdeh-cg7id 97. So... no. Not really
@@METALGEARMATRIX sorry late 90s kid then
Expansion pack is the old term for downloadable content so yeah, truly a late 90's gamer indeed. Pretty sure even in the early 2000's as well they still call it expansion pack I guess, until the 2010 AAA games era where DLC began to become a common term.
its true, people will pay more if you get more out of it. something minus triple A companys will learn over time. as concord is just the start
“40 dollars is way to expensive for a dlc”
Destiny 2:”hello”
Hell yeah $40 just to pay to lose? Take my money
D2 is free now
still worse than warframe
I hate my buddy so much for how religiously he plays this game
Or most MMO's since there expansion witch typically are huge upgrades even D2 but of course D2 not so much now
Don't forget Xenoblade 2's dlc
Miyazaki’s team had so thoroughly earned my trust that shadow of the erdtree could cost the same as a whole new game and I’d still buy it. Their track record is absolutely spotless.
True ngl
Destiny 2’s next expansion cost $50 for a bunch of reused assets put together Revelations(Black ops 3 zombies) style with no new enemy faction or darkness subclass and most of the cool shit will be locked behind a battle pass and the micro transaction store. Now compare that to the $40 dollar ER dlc. We’re getting a brand new area, new enemies, armor, weapons, weapon archetypes, bosses, etc. The difference is insane.
I mean, all the DLCs for dark souls 2 were kinda lack luster if u were to buy each one as their own thing. All the dlcs for DS2 together is amazing tho. So Idk if I would call that exactly spotless, but never has fromsoft ever disappointed me with any content they have ever released.
Totally agree. At this point I'll buy anything fromsoft puts out because everything they make is gold.
@@blazednhazed71We don't talk about Dark Souls 2.....
30 hours DLC? That is a complete game💀
Calling THAT a DLC it's wild, it's fucking *30 HOURS*
@@Elpen_dejazo From an actually good game developer yes, not slop like CoD every year
That is Spider-Man 2 right there
Here's the thing though, Miyazaki always sells the length short. He said Elden Ring was gonna be 30 something hours, and my playthrough came in at well over 200. I fully expect a proper playthrough of SOTE to come in at around 50-60, and that's being conservative. Remember, previous docs for Souls-Likes released within a year and always set a new bar, but this one has been cooking for twice as long.
Dlc just means downloadable content. Borderlands has been putting half the game in the dlcs for a while now. And cyberpunk, skyrim, and the witcher have had insanely large dlcs
I just finished both the dlc and main game killing all of the mini bosses, unnamed bosses and main bosses and have logged 65hrs
30hr?! Nahh!! It'll take me a 100hr, from exploring ever inch of the map to continuously dying in a boss fight 😂
It will be great😂
All of that is part of the experience, I'm not gonna play cuz I'm more of the FPS side (Helldivers 2 is hella good), but fromsoftware games are a clear behemoth on their own. Bloodbourne, DS3 and now Elden ring will truly live to be part of the greatest games
I don't get most playtime predictions anyway. How do people play games? Sounds exhausting, man.
@@robbieschirmer8966?
@@robbieschirmer8966 Mostly Dialogue time, the time it takes to beat a boss with 'perfect run', and the travel time between places. There are morebut personally I do think its not really accurate and shouldn't be the main reason you play a game. It does however put a 'responsibility' on studio to prove that the gameplay would at least pass the assumed hours so people can say that it was worth it. TLDR marketing strategy.
"40 dollar dlc is too much"
EA sports : hello
Ive been waiting for you… everlong
On gang
Those assholes literally bring out 40 dollar DLC's that barely give anything.
40 dollars for a horse please!
@@ellochickennugget1015 reported loser
From Software is probably the most consistent company to release quality products for its value. Very rare nowadays
Can't argue with that
how about capcom? monster hunter series is holding up real nice and is definitely worth the price.
@@izumiia_ that may be true, but capcom isn't necessarily consistent in quality with other game series. RE is definitely consistent in recent years but that's with a secondary company who they're just publishing for.
As I said to a friend of mine, Fromsoft is one of the *only* companies who can say to me: "No, our DLC is worth 40$, we worked hard on it and there's a lot of content there, we think it's a fair price" and have me believe them.
The crazy thing is they made their best game before they git big. Otogi 2. They should remake it with their new money
Bro is the greatest advertiser 💀
50 hours to complete my ass. 50+ hours and I'm not even at Raya Lucaria, I'm at the lake.
lol 😂 true, I got lost and needed to level up some more before fighting those Sniper Lobsters 🦞🦞🦞
@@deathrodamus9608LMAO those snipers r no joke.. when u thought u'r safe then they suddenly coming outta nowhere
I'm level 312 and I still avoid those mfing lobsters
@@deathrodamus9608 they are easy to kill.
@@pasalasaga not to me, those mf gank me while I am looking for loot in the area.
"$40 is way too expensive for a dlc"
*The sims 4 has left the chat
Edit: thanks for 522 likes every body❤️
The main game is free☺️
1000+ dollars for additional content💀💀💀
@@AdrianPerez-bz1tr BRUH💀
>Pirating has entered the chat
@@ruski77 AND?
@@ruski77and does a backflip for no reason
At least they are not using the ubisoft strategy
Ctrl+C
Ctrl+V
Ubisoft used to make fantastic games
@Khuhyshyshk, and unfortunately, they have continued to disappoint in recent years
@@EuphoricPeanutthe thing that sucks is occasionally their art and animation teams still puts the passion in but it’s like wasted on the boring formulaic predatorily monetized slop they pump out now
@@Khuhyshyshklike for honor💀
welllll they are, but not as badly. the reuse of assets isn't from's biggest issue
Not a fan of souls like games or even elden ring for that matter but shout out to fromsoft for putting out actual quality and not charging you a million dollars for it
"50 hours to beat all the main bosses" well shit, here i am sitting at 250+ hours and still stuck on the Fire Giant.
Damn ur ass💀
Envoy longhorn
That's the only correct answer here 👍
I'm 203 hours and on ng+5 dual scavs did me good but strength is where it's at. Dual giant crushers with raptors rip bosses
@tylerwieman6783 Brother. During the second phase, head glitch his abilities by playing ring around the Rosie of the pertruding rock in the middle of the field. Hope this helps
The money in my wallet just started levitating away from me the second I saw the elden ring dlc. I need this badly.
I dont need it. Not only because i dont have or dont have the money needed.
Its just. Once when j am done with the main content. I lose interest. Its different for MMO game.
The game is already finnished, i do t have to pay for dlc ( new content ) and
The fact that you can trade in MMO makes paying real money for items unnecessary
I literally put June 21 on my calendar so I can buy it when it comes out
@ItsJustKaya Comparing Elden Ring to an MMO is a wild take.
im saving my money for it
@@ItsJustKayawhole lot of yap to just say u dont rlly like souls games or single player games
"40 dollar dlc is to much"
Destiny 2 players: hello 👋
😢😢😢😢😢
Bro I play that shit and this hit the nail so hard it's part of earths core.
Could not be more true
My thoughts exactly
Stopped playing D2 since i'm argentinian and a dlc is basically half a rent, absolute bullshit
Factsss
Took me 75-80ish hours to just beat the first run of the main game. Yes a chunk of that is because I'm bad, but I also like exploring and doing as much side content as i can. Overall, elden ring's base game alone already put me over 1 hour per dollar spent for the main gake AND dlc combined. Well worth.
"Elden Ring takes 50 hours to beat" Yeah like hell it does, I'm sitting here like 100 hours later
Edit: I just mean this as a comment, not a correction. I know he said focusing only on main bosses but the average player doesn't do that so the playtime will probably be higher.
Depends if ur good or bad, if u vaguely understand dark souls you will make an overpowered build on accident and kill most bosses in 1-2 tries
👎🏻
me with 238 hours
@@bamb0049it also depends on how you play, are you rushing from boss to boss, or do you like stop to appreciate the view and details they added to this massive world? do you brute force the puzzles or look up for solutions on the internet? maybe read the lore on every single object there is?
no. sadly this game takes the shitty mmo buff route so@49
it plays nothing like dark sousl
At least you pay 40$ dollars and get actually good stuff, Destiny players can't say the same 💀
I'm a destiny player and actually couldn't agree more lol
Wdym bro? You dont like paying 20 dollars for a single fucking dungeon?
I’m a destiny player just preordered the next campaign for 100 dollars 💀
*throws 2 previous DLC's into the content vault*
Bahahahahahaha 🤡🗿😈
And sometimes they take it away EVEN THOUGH YOU PAID FOR IT.
Fromsoft is the only company that can actually justify it's prices lmao their all games were so fucking good
I hope it stays that way. I can't wait to play it!!!
@@JazzyVibes217if every single game has been an instant classic, I think it’ll continue, so long as nobody significant is fired
Mannnn, this just makes me more sad about Sekiro not getting a dlc….
Ds3 being 90$ in 2024 is pretty bullshit though.
@@micahbell9412 it’s an incredible game my man. It’s a little bit expensive, but Madden is like 80 bucks. COD is also like 80 bucks normally.
As someone who’s played MW3 and also wants to play Elden Ring, I agree that MW3 is basically just a MW2 DLC so make the game look and feel different (and even then it’s not much of a difference). I like MW3 too but $70 is waaaay too much. Should’ve been around $25-$40 max
"40 dollars is too much"
Paradox Games:
I see ya there buddy
@@timothymatthewenriquez244 huh
Ah Paradox, the company that makes so many DLCs that they're now offering subscriptions for some of their games to be able to play the DLCs without spending a couple hundred bucks
@@The73MPL4R and the fact that these dlc's change the game by 80%, like playing Crusader Kings 2 without and with dlc's are basically 2 entirely different games
Cities: Skylines
DMC5: here have this character for 5 dollars, You wont regret it.
It's true I did not regret it.
and its true
Vergil?
its too cheap honestly
Vergil is so good
It took me 200+ hours to finish the game while deeply exploring the entire map. And I still managed to miss stuff!
same! I completely missed malenia in my first run
took me 300 hours
How much did you pay for ER?
xD you need to be bad or very very slow player, i have 70+ and did all quest killed all bosses did all dungeons
😐@@vezuuu7980
Shadow of the erdtree is basically just another game at this point I can’t believe how much love and effort was put into one dlc
Not to mention we’re going to be spending another 100+ hours messing around, finding secrets, and replaying
I'd advise spending less of your time running around on elden ring and more time worrying about what's going on in the world. Did you know a top security clearance Air force soldier set himself on fire, before this he states "I will not be complicit in genocide"
As well as stating something along the lines of "I'm about to engage In an extreme act of protest, but compared to what palestinians are going through, it's not extreme at all" he's lit himself on Fire and yelled free palestine until the flames choked him and made him unable to speak. You ever see someone burn alive? Imagine your brothers and sisters, or your child. Yourself.
@@GunnerWolfe-ks9dsyap
@@GunnerWolfe-ks9dswhy would I worry about some idiot?
@@GunnerWolfe-ks9ds ok cool now go spread that on a politic page or something, this is a gaming post you expect them to not talk about playing games?
@@GunnerWolfe-ks9dsThough the war in Palestine is important, we come here to escape from the dolor of current events
The world can be good, and going down rabbitholes on current events is an essential part of being an informed citizen, but you need to remember to get out of Wonderland every once and a while
-Did you get Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3?
-No
Discussion ended
Well the points about mw3 would be irrelevant but a lot of the info about the dlc would be correct. 30 hours of gameplay goes hard and would in fact be worth your 40 bucks
Cause his argument is what you would call a strawman
@@Lukewarm618it's not 40 bucks...
It's 70.
@@Lukewarm618depends on if the dlc is good. If it sucks then it's not worth it
@@GTCYTMCwym it’s 40 where did you get 70 from?😂
"40$ for dlc is too much"
Bungie: not enough
*still charges full price for a 6 year old expansion*
Nah even Bungie's 40 dlcs were overpriced
The last destiny expansion that was worth 40 was forsaken and you can't even play it anymore
@@user-lv8dn8gw9z WQ was a banger tho
Thing is, nowadays people IMMEDIATELY ASSUME that a DLC has 0 hours of gameplay in it. Only cosmetics and stuff of the sort. Either that or a playable character if it's that kind of game.
Miyazaki also said it would take 30 hours for the base game. Some people took over 100 hours to beat and they didn't even complete everything
yes, exactly, i saw this on reddit all the time, people boasting about finishing the game in 12-20 hours right after the game was released.
when in reality it often realistically took 50+ hours, even 100+ hours, because people played the game while exploring and appreciating the world, try different crafting mechanics, etc
while those 12+ Hours people, they play the game as if they're being chased by the Cops or Ghost or something.
i'm sure they're skipping dialogues and running all the time in the game
they wear that as a pride and had to boast around.
like, they're not good enough to be a speedrunner
How is that even possible? I completed in 90 hours and I still missed volcano manor and the NIHIL guy
@revesz9528 dude im 65 hours and just finish limgrave and caelid and theres like what 4-5 map left, im doing 100% run.
@@jensenraylight8011even when I decided to look up guides on where to find certain characters for quests, I clocked in around 70+ hours in that game before I finally finished it. Game is crazy honestly, no way anyone could have fun and finish it in 12 to 20 hours
I have to turn over literally every stone, so my first run was like 120h ._.
"$40 is too much for a DLC"
Monster Hunter DLCs: Allow us to introduce ourselves!
yeah iceborn was mhw 2 basically
Besides mhw, what other mh game has dlc that has to be purchased?
@That1guyTony MHR has Sunbreak which is a separate expansion
@@Reineerus_The_Rat how did I buy it and forget all about it lmao
@That1guyTony After it came out most places just sold the bundle of base game and Sunbreak, same thing happened with Iceborne. I've seen people think Iceborne is just part of the base game
Just a friendly reminder, GOW ragnarok released an update that added content that takes longer to complete than MW3’s campaign… and it was FREE lol
Only that God is no longer a single player game? Like what's the point of mentioning it. It's costs 60€ for the Multiplayer and you get the Campaign for free on top. Like stfu Fromsoft ist the biggest L Company of all time reselling the same game over and over again just like Activision. Buuuuuuut atleast Cod doesn't hide it.
Whats wrong with Fromsoft all their games are new every time they release with a completely new world and new set of characters and in alot of cases completely new gameplay, how are games like elden ring and sekiro so much alike that they can be compared to activison games which have a bad story besides for the old games and nigh on the exact same multiplayer, fromsoft makes some of the best games that I have ever played @herrfrau4162
What
@@herrfrau4162
BIG L
@@herrfrau4162 Only in terms of gameplay at most. They've been evolving in world design at the least. Dark Souls was Metroidvania, while Elden Ring is Open World. Even with the Soulslike gameplay, those are fundamentally different experiences. Same for Pokemon. Scarlet/Violet feels completely different to Emerald in terms of the world and exploration.
Still more than CoD has done. So nah, still a W for FromSoft. Plus, FromSoft doesn't have microtransactions. Also, as an aside, why would they not continue to make Soulslikes? They invented the genre and repeated the success many times over, with multiple revisions and QoL improvements over the years. They only went back to Armored Core after more games started filling their niche. It'd be stupid not to capitalize on the monopoly of a popular genre. Plus, comparing Demon Souls, Sekiro, and Elden Ring is disingenuous to their gameplay systems, as they do have many fundamental differences (especially in terms of healing or Posture). They just share a high difficulty and a diverse array of boss fights.
This guy is prob great at winning shower arguments
Players don’t mind spending money for good games and DLC. We just want our money and our time respected.
Digital only "purchases" (temporary licenses) are automatically disrespectful to our time and money.
$40 is still ridiculous, and hours played =/= quality, Elden Ring is way longer than Bloodborne and still fails to provide an experience that rivals it in quality.
@@gishgoyim9170 the fantastic 30 fps hard lock experience
@@gishgoyim9170Are you saying Bloodborne was a better experience than the Elden ring? That game that never was released on a FUCKING PC and was locked at 30 fps?!
If that is what u mean, I guess you never really played Elden ring.
And if you don't wanna pay 40 dollars for it.. then just wait for the sale.
Either way, it's fucking worth.
@@gishgoyim9170 Respectfully this opinion means nothing, elden ring is easily the most praised fromsoft game
Also keep in mind that if Miyazaki says it takes 30 hours to beat, it’ll probably take 60
Agreed
600 hour
I have 2000 hours only with one character.
I have never played as a mage, faith or bleed build.
This Game is so huge that it's possible that the DLC could make it to 3000 hours for me.
40$ are a joke.
But I'm going to get the Collectors Edition at DLC realese so what I'm talking about Money.
I sold my soul to Miyazaki. He saved my life.
No COD, no AC, no Hogwarts and no fucking FIFA or whatever can do something like that.
Fromsoft is so far beyond everything on the market.
@@vermintame funny
@@quirrell-zd1eq what's funny boi...or whatever?
Whoever complains about the price of Elden Ring DLC are the ones who couldn't defeat The Soldier of Godrick.
Who's that? I only know God soldier of Rick
@@SlaveKn_ghtGael Did you mean Rick, Soldier of God?
@@MageofSwords oh yeah mb
@@SlaveKn_ghtGaelI thought it was Soldrick of Godier
Tbf they were up against Rick himself, cant judge em' for getting deleted from existence
Talked to my dad about it, and he said “Yeah that’s way too expensive for just an extra area”
“Well, there are also a plethora of new bosses, the area is similar in size to this chunk of the map right here **gestures to Liurnia and Limgrave** and it also comes with a bunch of new weapons, as well as new weapon TYPES, like light Greatswords and martial arts weapons, also adding to the story in a whole new way. It’s also worth noting that compared to what other games charge, this shit is a steal. You could spend $30 on Overwatch and only get ONE cosmetic from that. FromSoftware practically gave us a whole game, for slightly cheaper than a full game.”
$40 is too expensive for a cod game, $40 for an elden ring dlc is a steal
?
Exactly
Here in Brazil, a DLC could reach more than 200$(or less)
@@FarinhaDeOsso-h73 would that mean a call of duty game goes for around $310-$320 base game alone?
@@pheonixfire667 yes
"50hr to complete"
Yeah right, took me 148hr to complete
Other AAA games: promise you a game but it’s just a dlc
From software: promises you a dlc but it’s a game
Old Hunter DLC taking me 54+ hrs
Google: it will take 10 hrs to beat the dlc🥰
@bangg_bhai420 54???😅 Bro there's 5 boss fights how?
MW3 didn’t even have a soundtrack and some people think that competes with Fromsoftware.
EA dlc: a few pets 40€
Fromsoftware dlc: a whole ass game worth of content 40€
Meatriding, at it's finest
Bro i so zesty with that second voice😂
"$40 for a dlc is too much!"
Destiny 2: you guys heard something?
Fr they had bangers with witch queen and forsaken
But lighfall was beyond rough save for the strand subclass
@@thebean6496 yeah witch queen was the best expansion bungie has done on their own (alot of forsaken wasn't done by bungie since they were still under Activision)
Seasonal model was overdue to be trashed about 3 years ago tho
😂
I bought light fall normal for ~28$
That included dlc + season of the witch.
I beat elden ring in 43h killing every boss. 30h I spend just in RON(light fall raid). 40$ for from software dlc is a lot. I remember ringed city from ds3
I just rushed everything to just get to bosses. So 40$ is too much. I think that from software are testing people how much they can charge them for stuff.
I mean Tbf they go on sale ALOT for example lightfall+annual (which is normally $100) is currently $20 on stwam
Also Fromsoftware is known for their DLC. Every single piece of DLC content they've made is considered the best part of the respective games they're in.
Like Bloodborne's DLC 100%
People keep saying to not preorder any game/DLC but that only applies to companies like EA and UBISOFT
@@crowbarfish0812 And Capcom 😔 60 dollars that get discounted for like 30
@@crowbarfish0812
Yeah, I mean look how Tears of the Kingdom turned out.
Yea... DS1 DLC was ass.
I like how more games seem to be going back to the old "expansion pack" model with one or two huge dlcs instead of like a dozen $5 ones that are half cosmetics
God bless bro I've said this too. I'd happily pay $60 when there's a full game's worth of content like in this dlc.
Just avoid "triple a" games tbh
*The Sims crying in the corner*
God of war Ragnarok: 🗿
The one guy: "$40 is a lot."
Me, a Pokémon player: "First time?"
me as a monster hunter player: not my first rodeo
Fr Pokemon fans are gullible enough to buy them too
Gamefreak ain't catching me lacking with that
NAH THIS TOO REAL
look man I need the funny ogre and the funny turtle
“30 hours to beat it”
Speed runners: four minutes. Take it or leave it.
Tru
That do glitches, that are not intended. /s
That 50 hours is for speed runners. The monsters are bullet sponges and the only way to kill bosses is hit then thousands upon thousands to millions to billions of times while performing the exact same roll dodge to actually be able to not die in 1 hit. Also the roll dodge is only usable if you buy the $50 DLC. Yup you heard that right you have to spend $50 for a tutorial level single button action. in reality in order to actually play the game you have to pay about $500 for a game that is only worth $30.
I beated elden ring in 18h
@@joonone3417😂😂😂
Ill happily pay that, its a donation to a competent studio
Exactly. The $60 I payed for elden ring was a drop in the bucket for what I got in return. That was an insane value bargain
Fr
It's not a donation, it's an investment into one of the few studios that are still capable of entertaining me
Donation? Bruh you're paying because you want the content. The studio doesn't need donations.
Its not a donation man these people are just thinking about themselves. It takes an unbelievably stupid amount of people/ resources to create games now. 40 dollars is the effin markdown. for the Sizable chunk of the game there working on..
Bro's playing all the right cards.
I feel like I've just been slapped in the face buying all those cosmetics in Destiny 2
Shhhhhh....don't remind me..I bought all the dlcs and so much on cosmetics...
Probably at 1,000 alone since d1 and all thr expensive d2 expansion so don't buy the pass each season
I only bought the mass effect one and the dlc buy I don't buy dlcs for games I rarely play I do like the game but I haven't beat it yet and don't buy dlcs for games like elden ring
@@fennix_gamingUwO you poor soul
its fine i spent over a thousand dollars on league skins
i swear this dlc is gonna be like a whole new game
30hours of gameplay is gonna be a new game basicly. Assassins creed syndicate takes for the main quest only 18 and 30hours to 100% it. The GTA IV mainlines takes about 30h.
That's what I'm thinking
You didn’t miss
20 dollars for witcher 3 blood and wine will forever be the greatest dlc value in gaming history
I believe you can buy the whole game with dlcs now cheaper I love the blood and wine dlc honestly probably one of the best dlcs in any video game out there
Facts best purchase I made in 2023, that game was a masterpiece
what’s even more crazy is you can buy the whole GOTY edition with both dlcs for as low as 10 bucks
@@ha-kh7ef bought it for a dollar last year. :skullface: i feel like a criminal for that.just the prices in my region
@@ha-kh7ef yeah that’s what I got, still playing it off & on.
Shadow of the Erdtree is what DLCs used to be and what they were intended to be
The DLC is gonna take me longer than 30 hours because I’m gonna get lost and explore every single crevice until I have found everything there is to find
Took me 119 hours my first playthrough 😂 just started my fourth a few days ago
@@royalscythe6422nice!
@royalscythe6422 yup. Took me about 130 hours to find every cave, catacombs & mini bosses before I beat Radagon on my first playthrough. It is going to suck fighting Mohg on NG+4 after not playing for a year.
As it should be played! My first playthrough was around 267h exploring every inch of the map, it was awesome.
Took me 0 hours to just not play this game 😅.
if you do a thorough exploration of the map and don’t struggle with bosses a whole lot, the vanilla game is easily 120+ hours of content on your first playthrough. These games also have incredible replayability because of all the different weapons/builds/magic. The dark souls 3 ringed city dlc is the best expansion I’ve experienced on a game and I have no doubt the bar will be raised higher here, especially with the extra time they took to create it
Too bad most of the content on that mostly empty map are just fillers. Dropped it after ~15 hours. Title of "one of the best games of all time" is mostly just effect of good pr. The pvp isn't fun and the balance is not good overall, but maybe they fixed it (probably not)
If you didn’t like it, why did it take you 15 hours to stop playing it?
@@ammoa61sjaoao74 the big castle in the beginning was quite good, and open world with soulslike fighting felt new and cool, but then on the big ass wizard swamp i started feeling i wasn't progressing in the game and got bored.
I wish i could remember what exactly happened, I think I got to some red location, but it was above my current level, I did some exploring and then never felt I want to play the game again
@@frrorus7705 i get your point, i do agree that the reused assets are annoying close to the end game, also the leveling progression, even tho it was a choice to incentivise the player to explore, it is pretty wierd sometimes but if u liked the castle from the beggining, i recomend you to give it another try, there are at least 5+ areas that have a pretty similar feeling of exploring stormveil castle, and are tbh exemples of amazing game desing!
Miyazaki for the DLC said that it’s “at least the size of Limgrave.”
Remember, this is the same humble man who said “Oh Elden Ring will take people about 30 hrs to beat.” This is the same game where we thought that the map was going to be just Limgrave.
Fromsoft VASTLY undersell their games.
Mark my words. This will pretty much be a whole goddamn sequel to the main game.
The amount of content we saw in the trailer alone tells me it absolutely will deliver and then some.
Plus, the DLCs have always hid the true final boss. So I know damn well whomever is after Mesmmer will be a brutal fucking boss and I cannot wait for it!
I remember hearing this phrasing from someone.
God, that would be a dream come true. The only thing I want is MORE ELDEN RING!
@@greatdanchik Vidya said it the fromsoftwaere game lore master in his Shadow of the Erd Tree trailer analyze
Don’t overhype how much content there will be. You’re only setting yourself up for failure or simply meeting expectations.
bros winning imaginary arguments like its nothing✊️😤
Bro made shower arguments into shorts
@masterraccoon2883it SO EXPENSIVE
My poor ass "i haven't spent money in three years"
I am ashamed of spending 12$ this year on a game
This shit made me laugh 😂😂
@@TalkedMat bro ALWAYS go to g2a or some similar company I don’t care what you're buying no matter how old or new or big it is ALWAYS search for game keys online to purchase. Like I got far cry 6 limited edition or whatever it's called for like $15 a few months after release. I bought starfield ultimate edition for like $40
Just make sure you buy it for the right system and country, search around for best price.
My little thumb for finding games and content for games and stuff, is how much of my time is this worth, let's say I make 20 dollar an hour and a game is worth 40 I would ask my self if that 2 hours is worth that game and that experience. Most often the answer is no, because I'm not a major gamer.
@westenplatt179 I don't have any disposable cash
However I typically decide on spending money based off of how much use or certain increases in things (like how much it'll improve or affect my health physically or emotionally)
Paradox players: $40 for a DLC that’s cheap
I raise you with Sims 4 dlcs.
You either a mad person to buy them all, or you can always go "yar har har" route.
@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 honestly, sims 4 isn't even worth pirating.
2 and 3 may have less overall stuff, but they work better than 4.
Nah 40 dollars for a Paradox DLC is expensive. How about you break that up into 6 DLC's priced at 20 dollars each?
it hurts so much ck2 not even a good game with out the dlc
@@gorrazin7983 yea lol
But 40$ is expensive for a dlc bro
"Just as big a Limgrave" ok buddy *makes DLC the size of Weeping Peninsula, Limgrave, and Called with a tad bit of Liurnia*
it's actually the size of lingrave, they just forgot to say that it was 3 maps of lingrave stacked
@@patec4rb0Toućhe
@patec4rb0 with the weeping peninsula as well
@CallytheCalicoCat Technically, the Weeping Peninsula is Limgrave. Kinda like Flame Peak and Mountaintops of the Giants, if Flame Peak wasn't just a respective section of the area, and had its own category in the warp point areas (if u press triangle while in the map, for those who dont know, it opens up all the grace points you have been to, but they are split into categories by area (and they have sections, like how Raya Lucaria is a dependent area, as it is only a big fraction of Liurnia), and you will see that Weeping Peninsula is just the huge, Southern point of Limgrave.
A whole lotta yapping just to say that all of Limgrave 3 times stacked with a Weeping Peninsula is 4 Peninsulas + 3 Limgraves stacked on top of each other 😭
Brave of you to assume i can finish a boss in under 30 hours 😂
closer to 70 hours probably
This dude is OP. Love your content! He could convince me my boom bean is bigger then my boom boulder. You made some fantasic and funny points in your gaming arguments.
This man is the real 🐐, you have got to be nerfed
No way, THE Boomganza?! 😮 I respect the love for your other content creators 👍
NAH NAH NAH BOOM
Boom bean
Boom is here bro was blessed
I don’t think literally anyone was saying 40 dollars is too high but 70 dollars is ok to buy a game. defending 40 dollars for a dlc by making an argument that you spend money on other games is kind of idiotic.
Bro starting arguments with himself
You don't?
@@MarkyIsNow this man is the other 50% that dont have a inner voice
What? Please for the love of good go to school.
Right, and has to give a incredibly biased take with the second “person” he’s arguing with. Like the SSKTJL video, in which he defended it by making the assumption that people dont like games anymore thats why people dont like SSKTJL. Which isnt at all why. Game literally has barely a thousand players and is actively dying.
@@Arrowslinger2I don't usually mind these, but this was just blatantly disingenuous argumentation.
It's like going:
A: "I think 10 dollars for a burger is too expensive."
B: "But you've bought a burger for 20 dollars."
WHY would B even do that when they already think 10 dollars is too much?? Makes no sense. 😅
Bro got tired of doing impressions, now he is spitting facts
no
Hard cold facts
@@soratenshi2847yep
@@soratenshi2847 sorry your fps franchise is abusive, but he is saying the truth
@@soratenshi2847Cod died a long time ago, now it's just a cash grab.
"$40 is too much for a dlc" said not a SINGLE Elden Rings fan.
I did
I did.
@@Anil-zj1erwhy did u? it's not
One of the rare chances where the developer's good PR let's me forgive what i would otherwise consider a major sin.
Hell, i wouldn't be all that shocked if part of the price tag was that the game was already over budget and never made all their cost back, because the game is THAT fucking dense(good dense, not stupid dense lol)
Elden Ring is the only game that I've played on PS4(been an owner since day one) that really blew me away, makes me feel like the game is pushing ALL the hardware on the console, (I'm not tech literate, so yeah I'm sure there's aspects that aren't used that make this statement dumb) and the developer and publisher both managed to work TOGETHER for once and give players the experience they've wanted.
Elden Ring is probably the closest I'll ever get to reliving THAT moment from early gaming (i think most gamers would say Mario 64 or ocarina of time gave them this moment, for me personally I'd have to give it to Sonic Adventure because sonic was the shit back before the internet got ahold of him)
@@slothminion4620 it is though... the base games costs 60$, either ⅔ of the base game is in that DLC or it's overpriced
I am 60 hours in and still got 1 area to explore. This is not a 30 hour dlc, its a whole sequel.