I realize that people looking for help growing weed indoors find themselves on gardener channels, and give a sinister laugh. But yes, there are those of us who are honestly passionate about growing veggies.
@@carolynsteele5116 did you forget to take your meds or were you born without a sense of humor? Relax... chill.... It was actually pretty humorous. Lightened up a bad day for me.
Carolyn Steele gardening is gardening, what someone chooses to grow is irrelevant to the information provided in this video. Please explain what compels you to respond to the original comment which was obviously made in jest. I wonder how anything concerning the topic of gardening indoors is cause for your “sinister” laughter, no matter what someone else is growing. Are you honestly stating that growing Cannabis is sinister? If so, please explain how you have come to this conclusion. I however find it ironic that you mention your laughter based on a comment which is a joke you are not getting in the first place because you lack a sense of humor. I guess you hate jokes and the “sinister” devil’s lettuce 🤔
@@johnmcafee9663 Surely that point is already behind us, the point where good led's outperform any other source (besides the sun) was passed years ago. Many good sources.. the channel from Migro (here on youtube) being one of the best.
@@mindwis3 Maybe ?, people i speak to have ended up with bad product, have no idea what they used, maybe you can help.... i use a 400 W MH and 400 W HPS, im looking for LED equivelent with the purpose of lowering bills, i dont want to compromise on final quality or even quantity of what i currently use, im assuming LED VS HPS doesnt do this ? and can i find an LED that will pull less than 400 W from the wall but still give me 400 w equivelant or better while not compromising on quality ? this stuff head Fu%$s me lol and id imagine given the targeted market for such products i wouldnt be alone
Hi @@johnmcafee9663, finding a 300 watt LED that beats 400 watt HPS/MH shouldn't be too hard. Perhaps rather than directly compare, you can detail the size you want to cover and how intense you'd like the light to be. i would consider going for around 400 watt led with a dial to set the power, that way you can get the same intensity you have now, but you have some headspace too if you turn up the power. The link below is a direct comparison of HPS/MH vs LED by Sean, who has been selling and advising on that stuff for a decade.. he knows his stuff really well. please have a look at the clip below and things will get clearer i promise :) th-cam.com/video/51waoRTonc8/w-d-xo.html
Best explained terminology on LEDs.when I first looked up what lights are worth purchasing I thought this stuff would be somewhat difficult to learn but it really ain't,very informative for beginners.
Anything new has a learning curve. I'm going to listen to this a few times so I can understand and purchase an item that would actually work for what I plan to do.
Wow oh wow I was just getting ready to buy some lights and thought it would be a good idea to see what people say about them. Thanks for the information! Makes me better informed😊
As a beginner, this video was soooo helpful! Especially the beginning. QUESTION: Where do we find the table of PPFD charts? Is it usually on the manufacturers website or in the description of the product?
Most manufacturers don't have charts for PPFD, the best option is to contact them directly and ask about it. Still even after they show you the charts, would be a good idea to get a PAR meter which is expensive at, or get a lux meter and do the calculation to get approximate PAR from it, so whatever you get on Lux meter x 100 that and x 0,15 whatever you got, and that's as close as you can get to PAR, keep in mind that this can be a bit off on LED light and is better used on incandescents, fluorescent lights, high-intensity discharge lamps (HID) lights. TH-cam is amazing.
Thank you. Your video was informative, enlightning and relatively easy for me to understand (mostly)! I'm going to try going beyond my aero garden with some larger plants, as well as the Kratky method. I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos!
Great video! Except one clarification. About 11:30 you're explaining how the manufacturers rate their lights by multiplying 10W diodes * 100 pieces = 1000W but actual draw is 1.8W per diode. My 2cents: Mfgs are using this 'fake' wattage as a way to compare to the industry standard HPS lights. Don't know how accurate that is but they compare HPS 1000W to their 1000W which actually shows the high efficiency of the LEDs. ('same'(ish) HPS light intensity but with much less power ex. 180W. Yup, it's very unfortunate to use the W(att) terms for comparing light strength. Obviously as you explain there are much more variables with the light spectrum and plant usable light etc. Cheers!
@@epicgardeningWhat I got from your message is that the LEDs are LESS EFFICIENT. In reality HPS actually drawing 1000W has similar output to leds drawing 180W ACTUAL watts. So obviously same light output with 180Watts is more efficient. (Confusion is that they label these LEDs as 1000W - that 1000W is not the power draw - it is the equivalency of light output of similar HPS light. Those LEDs actually draw just 180W)
You sir... are a gentlemen and a scholar. Thank you for giving me the knowledge to make an educated decision. Thank you for suggesting this light and appreciating the vendor for sending it to you to demo while still being humble about it. “Here is the science, here is the math, here is the light I like.” I feel like after I start comparing lights this one will just speak for itself. “Do not buy a light without seeing the floor chart” is my biggest take away.
@@blackbird69xxx That depends on several things... What is your budget, what do you want to grow, how big of an area, etc... Spectrum King has several decent options to choose from, Spyder Fluence lights are pretty much top of the line but they are pretty expensive. RapidLED.com has a lot of good options for DIY builds for reasonable prices. The most important thing to look for is a light that has a lot of white diodes that is supplemented with red (620 & 660 nm) diodes, this will give you a complete spectrum. Fruiting and flowering plants will benefit greatly from increased levels of red light. Things like lettuce, herbs, microgreens don't require boosted levels of red light. Familiarize yourself with spectral charts. I would disregard most of what Epic Gardening is telling you, he has a very limited understanding of horticulture LED lighting. chilledgrowlights.com/ - This site is a great resource to better understand the nuances of growing plants with LEDs. Check out their "Learn the basics" links at the bottom of their website. They also sell good horticulture lights as well as components for DIY builds. I hope this helps point you in a better direction. Epic Gardening is basically a glorified commercial showing people the most expensive and wasteful methods for cultivating plants. The light featured here is about 10 years behind the curve in LED horticulture technology/understanding. Good luck to you!
nailed it pal. its a shame that they promo them in all sorts of ways that confuse, any company that's listening, get your messaging right and rule the market
Hello, I have a question. I see that depending on the height of the light, the PPFD readings reduce as square footage increases. Should I be rotating my plants to equally distribute the variability in PPFD readings? Thanks!
I wish someone had answered this. I can only afford one light fixture and my seedlings are getting really leggy without one. We’re really at sea with this stuff.
Thank you for this video! It is the most concise and detailed explanation on the specs of grow lights. Due to physical limitations in my apartment I am unable to have a hanging grow light over my plants. I do, however, have two gooseneck adjustable standing grow lights that I use mainly for my orchids and a small plumeria tree. The specifications for these types of grow lights would be different than the square or rectangular hanging lights, e.g. PPFD. It would be great if you can do a review of some sort for these types of grow lights.
I am going to be using the light for orchids as well. I am using a cheap red/blue one on an orchid as we speak and I have noticed that it really darkens the color. I would be more interested in the white lights even if they are not as efficient. I would be interested to know if you have found something you like.
You literally have everything I need. Haha. I'll be transforming our old refrigerator to some sort of seed starting station and I'm currently looking into grow lights. Thanks as always Kev!
Made mine from pallet wood, a tower shelf. Top for starting seedlings, bottom for main growth. Can make from PVC tubing and joints. Use radiator reflector or other reflective sheets. Kitchen foil is delicate but can mount on cardboard. Grow tents are cheap. But all depends on circumstances like space in a room. Personally I do it cheap as possible sacrificing my energy. Fifty bucks for a grow tent I think I have seen a few years ago... can't remember for sure.
If we're using purely grow lights for growing (i don't have a sunny window or a backyard to place them outside) do you have to be on the look out for a certain stage of growth? Do you need to synthesis an experience for the plant? (I once saw a video of a woman slowly pushing her plant around to mimick a storm for the plant) Right now i have a batch of seedlings (4 of each, parsley, lavender, jalapeño, sage, chives, pumpkins) they're growing well and i've spaced them out for their necessary light requirememts and have a medium sized fan blowing on the lowest setting to give the effect of natural wind. Do i need to do anything else? I know with poinsettas you have to plan the dark-light settings in order for them to bloom. Anything like that i should anticipate?
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Honestly this is 95% good clean overview theory. Guy is putting in a great amount of effort into educating us for basically free... I am happy he can get a touch of product placement benefit for himself in for his time. Reciprocity and time value are important incentives for creators and educators.
was going to ignore because the thumbnail has a goofy guy on it but I am glad I didn't skip. I already have my own set up but you explained the detailed part of lighting that I did not understand in a very easy to follow way! (in simpler terms you explained it at a level that my High school diploma educated self was able to follow without trouble!)
Brothers 4 Life The agromax is Well suited for covering up to a 2′ x 2′ vegetative space or a 1.5′ x 1.5′ flowering space. - Light Specs: 10,920 lumens, 4000K Full-Spectrum white - Power Specs: 65w, 0.54A @ 120v Your growing space will determine your light choice. That and your budget. I have grown with a combination of the budget “burpele “ lights in veg and then augmented that with some sun when in the flowering stage. I just bought a SpiderFarmer 2000 to see if I can pull off a completely indoor grow this time. Best of luck to you!
For casual use-particularly for ornamental house plants-is there any reason that I shouldn’t just use white consumer LEDs so I can supplement light for my plant in a dark corner while keeping an aesthetic environment for humans?
Just a white LED bulb? I dont know, it should be at least 3000 lux bright, but I dont know if those lights have quality spectrums too. It is not just the intensity but also de quality (whole electromagnetic spectrum) Eidt: I mean, not really whole, but the visible light to us, 400 nm to 700
according to other websites/videos i’ve seen, you’re fine with just white light LED if the plants you’re using the light on will eventually be transplanted outside. the white light is best for germination and seedlings and will be sufficient enough for the early stages and then you’ll need to the other spectrums for fruit growth etc which will be supplied once the plant is transplanted outside. if you’re planing on having an indoor garden from start of seed to finish then i think you may need the other spectrums. i also believe that white LED lights release a certain amount of light from the other spectrums anyways so it ends up working out. mind you this white/day light LED’s will need to have i believe 2-4k lumens and 5000K+ depending on what you’re growing. i’m still learning tho so i may be incorrect.
If you studied to prepare for this and present this fantastic dissertation to us, thank you! Best explanation I've seen yet. Thank you for your efforts to share this knowledge.
I've had several of those EBay cheapy chinesey LED grow lights...But NO MORE.....They are shit....they burn out led's way too fast....and IF you get one that actually lasts for 12 months then you better have another one in waiting to replace it because it will be about to fail on you.....also, some of these chinese sellers just stop replying to your emails if you keep asking them to replace the faulty light.... they no likee the pressure. I started purchasing the Quantum boards with 288 Samsung led's on them , fitted with the Meanwell driver and boy what a difference in ALL output readings. I changed to an organic feeding regime too....bin those crappy chemicals that create a salt build up in your grow medium that slows the growing program way down , try the Seaweed / kelp feed along with the Fishmeal as your go too feed for your plants....bigger buds....almost impossible to wreck your plants, so easy for new growers too. Also , use Mycorrhizal fungi on your roots when you make the final transplant into the plants last container and your roots just take off. Remember that plant foods DO NOT feed the plant....it feeds the microbes , and more healthy microbes means bigger healthier plants with bigger yeilds....commercial foods are salt based.....salt kills microbes....and stay away from shitty made chinese grow lights....stick to named brands ......and always read those comments that buyers post on crappy chinese led grow lights.
Excellent video. Fascinated by your growing tent. We have a very short northern growing season and it could be helpful for a few plants. Have you done a video on how to construct one?
Photons don't exist. We've been taught wrong. All light is simply a part of the electromagnetic spectrum simply differing in Frequency. No different than microwaves, radio waves or x-rays only differing in frequency. “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” ― Nikola Tesla
strip led are probably the most efficent light at spreading the light evenly..covering a whole area is best..grow lights are designed very badly imo..i use the top bin samsung led but mars hydro have brought out a budget led that is under 200 watts and easily covers a 3x3..3500k with red photon boost diodes.
@Game Changer some do. Have for over a year now. Tho I still manliness and lst all my girls. Check out Migrow on here. Shane shows a top 25 and he addresses that as well..
@Game Changer period huh? Lol...👌 Anyways, have you watched greengene's garden? He's had zero problems with that issue and the product sells well. Soooo, there's that fun fact. Regardless, stay safe and lifted out there, period! 😉
thank you for this! I have some Q's, but over all I think I've got it. Now to find the right LED lighting system for my low-to-no budget and grow big lol
Wow! This video was done well. Informative content that wasn’t too difficult to understand. I’ve been trying to figure out this whole light thing. Maybe you could do another regarding supplementing light for indoor houseplants. As well as, what all these plant growers mean by “indirect, bright light.” Most of my plants require this. I suppose you’d do the math re: your bulb and then gauge it by distance for strength?? Maybe a video for different plant types and their requirements? And include supplementing when light conditions are less than ideal? Am I making sense? Thanks for the information! By far, the best I’ve seen for grow lights.
Wonderful video. This creator is a great example of how to grow a channel. I first saw him foraging for food, when that was all the rage. He is now into hydroponic farming which is now the rage. He is adapting to what consumers want to learn about and is not confining himself into a single subject.
I use a lot of grow lights because I live in Canada where we have such long winters with weak light. I've gotten most of my lights from amazon and have had the most success with those advertised as "full spectrum" but after viewing your video I'm not sure if I should trade these in for others which would be even better. Do you have any thoughts about those advertised as "full spectrum"? Also, I remember my Dad using florescent lights in our basement to start seedlings in the spring before planting outside once it got warmer. Do you think florescent lights are even better than the LED (but that they use more energy)? Thanks for all the info! I agree with the others, it's a lot to take in but very important for success! :-)
Full spectrum is hard to answer, you'd have to look at their spectral output chart and make your decision from there. You can certainly start seeds under fluorescents though!
I am not going to claim to be an expert. However I did grow actual “food“ hydroponically for years. Fluorescent light is blue. Which is fine for creating vegetation. But really no plant will begin to flower or bear fruit unless it is exposed to light that is in the yellow/red spectrum. So the answer is probably no. I can’t imagine that you could effectively get your “food“ to flower with fluorescent light. LED lighting generally has a much fuller spectrum of light. So depending on what you did, you would not necessarily have to switch it back-and-forth. I used to switch my crops back-and-forth between fluorescent and HPS.
Good video man! I spent a bunch of time watching and reading explanations on this stuff and can say you covered my hours of research in 20 mins. nice! I used to only use T5's and change from 6700k to full spectrum for blooming.. Just starting growing with a SP150 (the 2' one) along side my 6bulb T-5... That SP150 has an incredibly higher level of light penetration. Wicked good LED at probably the most reasonable price I've found. Def recommend if you wanna get more LEDs
So much incorrect "information" here. When vendors say "1000W" they are talking about the power required for another type of (inefficient) light, probably incandescent. Then they claim to only require maybe 125W, which would be easily achievable for modern LEDs (i.e., 8x as efficient as incandescent). That Z5 light, at 1.3umol/J, uses 1.9 times as much electricity to generate the same umol/s as the common "quantum boards." Maybe that doesn't matter some places, but where I live the cost of power is 40cents/kwh.
Ok that was way too technical for me. LOL. I just want to know if an Led light is an idea to use on orchids just during the winter when there's not enough light, for just at home. Is it really necessary to have that "aluminium foil" background? I don't like the look of that in my living room. LOL.
Great deep & nerdy explanation. I got the micromoles of PAR per joule - efficacy. I do have a question. Red lights and blue lights have the highest efficacy - but I'll live in the same place with my plants - I need the light myself in winter in NY and red/blue light just doesn't make it for me. It is a poor choice to get a full spectrum light as far as efficacy for the plants while not burning too much electricity when I start my spring propagation? w Light 3x3ft In case you are able to answer - thanks for reading and responding. I had previously thought I would buy the MARS Hydro TS 1000w LED grow light 3x3 - but this may be a product that you were comparing since I see "1000w" consuming 150w with 342 LEDs - this seems to be what you are advocating against. My interest in the MARS system was sparked when I watched a Canadian flower farmer switch to them from their fluorescent system and just blow away the old lighting with dark green, sturdy plant growth. Warmest regards Jennie
This was an interesting video. Thank you, Kevin. I learned something new just by watching. I've never tried starting seeds under grow lights. Since I got a late start this year, I just purchased plants from one of our local department stores. I want to try growing from seeds next year.
Took notes so now I’ll research and try your formulas. You gotta know this stuff if your spending a lot of money on plants or lighting. I feel much mite confident in my search, Thanks.
@@epicgardening Thanks. Such great info. Would love a video, if you're up for it, giving more brand comparisons and with any info you have about creating a tent about 6x3 and the number of light units needed and options for good light for 24" tall plants.
Hi Sunny, It depends a little bit on what you are going to grow and how you are going to use your grow area. If you are going to grow high light plants covering your whole grow space, such as tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers or even cannabis, I would recommend two Z5's. Each covering 2'x2' with very high intensity. Possibly, one Z5 could be hung in the middle of your tent and right below it you place a few high light crops. Just outside of the sweet spot and high intensity, you can grow lower light crops such as herbs and seedlings. Depending on what crop you are growing and what stage it is in, you want to achieve a certain intensity. We have made detailed PPFD maps (light intensity maps) that show what intensity both of our lamp models provide at certain heights. The maps also show how big area each intensity will cover at each height. Uploaded picture of intensity maps: i.imgur.com/23TgEFu.jpg The recommendations on the right-hand side of each map are quite high and are meant to include cannabis which has very high light requirements. It is dependent on what you are growing and what stage your plant is currently in. Personally, I use 150 PPFD for vegetable seeds and younglings until they are at least 2"/5cm tall. I aim for 200-300 when they have passed 2"/5cm in height and only for young adults and adult fruiting plants do I aim for 300-500 PPFD. Everything over 500 is very high intensity and mostly used for cannabis, although it can also be used for fruiting vegetables in their adult state. I hope this was helpful. Let me know if anything was unclear or if you have any other questions.
Haha I need a grow light for dummy course. Like others have said, this is definitely not for beginners. I'm sure it's awesome info for those who can comprehend though lol
Thanks for the well timed video. Your teaching methods should be used as examples for future teachers in training. I had made some tentative selections for grow lights using some of the limited information, the limited numbers, and am glad now that those selections were just tentative. I missed the mark for correct choices. Feeling much more confidant now about changing the choices and moving forward.
Am I mistaken? Did he just do a 180w draw power divided by 100 diodes for the eBay light and then do a 112w draw power divided by 192w potential for the LeDtonix?
I was looking to hit that thumbs up so many times throughout this video. The information kept me intrigued the further you went in this video lesson. Great Job!
1) get away from bkurple lights 2) PAR is now considered EPAR for extended PAR to include Deep Red and IR obove 700nm. 3) Emerson effect If you want to look at good lights, take a look at HLG or even better, look at the Electric Sky from the Green Sunshine Company.
@@bennyb6071 the Spectrum in the ES make a huge difference. My veg time is cut down and the buds are massive. I would say the most impressive thing about these lights are the light penetration.
I like to start my veggies 6-8 weeks before planting out- About how many actual watts would you say is necessary for growing seedlings and keeping the leaves very close, nice thick stems and not getting leggy?
great review yet I cant take it seriously as you are an interested party. By that I mean: you advertise certain lights and earn a commission from your amazon links. That ruins the entire video
I see what you're saying but he doesn't go all out promoting them like there's nothing better. He just mentions in kind of a passive way. I can't knock the man for makin a buck
@@Kghost0311 samsung 301b led strips, they are available in different sizes. i use plain alluminium U profile pieces of the lenght i require for the room i want to use it in. Meanwell driver to feed the led strips.
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but clearly understood in detail what you shared. I'm confident we can grow two Basel one Cilantro plants indoors this winter. Thanks!
I gotta watch this again when I’m not baked. Just wanted to try and understand as I’m using old school MH and HPS 600w bulbs and would like to try LEDs but don’t trust the claims of led companies
Literally every single application of LEDs in any market they appear in will be vastly incorrect. Basically divide the number in half and it's mostly accurate. Hell, any consumer grade product will not be accurate by orders of magnitude. Air compressors. Listed torque. CFM for blowers. If you want accurate numbers, buy professional grade. It will be 2 or 3 times the cost of consumer grade, but it will actually perform at listed numbers.
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Would love to understand what veggies do well with grow lights and what conditions are needed (intensity, duration, color spectrum) especially for slow growing plants and slips (sweet potatoes for example). What is the go it references to learn more? Thanks in advance, Gino
Awesome video brother I think you're right bro I've been studying lights myself thanks for the info I did subscribe I did hit the I rang the bell hope you do the same
Your information is confusing to most people and is inaccurate you're determining micromoles and jewels in a light that is giving you specifics and not taken from a light meter or PPM meter or any other meter of that you just going off the information they're giving you you got to determine Watts and determine which diodes are using
Bro, you broke this down so excellently. I really appreciate this information. Couldn’t purchase an LED cuz I was so confused about quality and what standards to measure lights by. Again thanks!
@@hishinegrouplimited8020 i bit the bullet and bought 960 watt LED’s off Alibaba. Yes, that’s right, a Chinese company. Was ready for a disaster, but super f’in stoked on quality and price. I just couldn’t afford them here where they were easily in the region of a $1,000 and more. So I had to take a chance- and happy I did.
True but that's why LED diodes last so long. Like quantum boards they put a ton of diodes on a board so they dont need to run the diode so hard so it burns out in a short time.. Samsung 301lmb diodes are run at like 0.8 percent of what the diode can actually produce. More diodes less power draw equals a long lasting quality light. Anyways thanks for the video.
hmmmm....micro-Moles per second per square meter......okay....so the Mole is Avogadro's number, roughly 6 by 10 to the 23 photons...or a unit amount of substance....
Thank you so much for this video. It’s the first explanation of grow lights that didn’t make me dizzy and feel dumb. I plan to start growing how peppers. What would be an ideal light for starting out a few trays of seeds and getting them to the point of ready to go in the ground? And would this be the same light that would be ideal to grow the same peppers for good yield fruiting inside? I was thinking of getting a T5 HO fluorescent for the first part and then maybe something like this or a Mars 250 for getting fruit.
Glad to hear this made sense to you - for starting seeds, a T5 Fluorescent light would do really well, and then yeah the Mars line is a good 'mid range' Chinese manufacturer
Yes, food, im growing food
I realize that people looking for help growing weed indoors find themselves on gardener channels, and give a sinister laugh. But yes, there are those of us who are honestly passionate about growing veggies.
@@carolynsteele5116 did you forget to take your meds or were you born without a sense of humor? Relax... chill.... It was actually pretty humorous. Lightened up a bad day for me.
@@carolynsteele5116 vegetables like peyote
Carolyn Steele gardening is gardening, what someone chooses to grow is irrelevant to the information provided in this video. Please explain what compels you to respond to the original comment which was obviously made in jest. I wonder how anything concerning the topic of gardening indoors is cause for your “sinister” laughter, no matter what someone else is growing. Are you honestly stating that growing Cannabis is sinister? If so, please explain how you have come to this conclusion. I however find it ironic that you mention your laughter based on a comment which is a joke you are not getting in the first place because you lack a sense of humor. I guess you hate jokes and the “sinister” devil’s lettuce 🤔
weed only growers are in minority anyways idk why are they so hyped up
I'm only "growing delicious food" officer.
"Whats your name? "Purple sticky punch" you're gonna make someone really happy"
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It was the Dog! Always blame the dog.
Professor of botany here. Great job explaining this- you've got it bang on the nail! I'll be showing this to my students.
ill buy when the market is actually clear enough for leyman to understand, even professors of botany need confirmaation on this new tech
@@johnmcafee9663 Surely that point is already behind us, the point where good led's outperform any other source (besides the sun) was passed years ago.
Many good sources.. the channel from Migro (here on youtube) being one of the best.
@@mindwis3 Maybe ?, people i speak to have ended up with bad product, have no idea what they used, maybe you can help.... i use a 400 W MH and 400 W HPS, im looking for LED equivelent with the purpose of lowering bills, i dont want to compromise on final quality or even quantity of what i currently use, im assuming LED VS HPS doesnt do this ? and can i find an LED that will pull less than 400 W from the wall but still give me 400 w equivelant or better while not compromising on quality ? this stuff head Fu%$s me lol and id imagine given the targeted market for such products i wouldnt be alone
Hi @@johnmcafee9663, finding a 300 watt LED that beats 400 watt HPS/MH shouldn't be too hard.
Perhaps rather than directly compare, you can detail the size you want to cover and how intense you'd like the light to be. i would consider going for around 400 watt led with a dial to set the power, that way you can get the same intensity you have now, but you have some headspace too if you turn up the power.
The link below is a direct comparison of HPS/MH vs LED by Sean, who has been selling and advising on that stuff for a decade.. he knows his stuff really well.
please have a look at the clip below and things will get clearer i promise :)
th-cam.com/video/51waoRTonc8/w-d-xo.html
Haha professor ganjit
This video made me feel like I was in school again and the teacher is talking but I have no idea what he's saying
Looooool me too “I missed the last 4 years of this class sorry “
Watch a few times. You'll get it. You're no dummy!
Lol I've been watching videos for the past hr or so trying to learn and that sums it up....
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🤔so is led light any good ?
Best explained terminology on LEDs.when I first looked up what lights are worth purchasing I thought this stuff would be somewhat difficult to learn but it really ain't,very informative for beginners.
Thanks Craig!
I keep hearing about this LEF 600w Vivir spectral light is it good or not does anybody know
😂😂😂 still none the wiser. That info just sailed right over my head.
Anything new has a learning curve. I'm going to listen to this a few times so I can understand and purchase an item that would actually work for what I plan to do.
One of the most informative LED light guide videos I've seen yet. Great work brother. I really enjoyed this
Very much appreciate hearing that!
Wow oh wow I was just getting ready to buy some lights and thought it would be a good idea to see what people say about them. Thanks for the information! Makes me better informed😊
As a beginner, this video was soooo helpful! Especially the beginning. QUESTION: Where do we find the table of PPFD charts? Is it usually on the manufacturers website or in the description of the product?
Most manufacturers don't have charts for PPFD, the best option is to contact them directly and ask about it. Still even after they show you the charts, would be a good idea to get a PAR meter which is expensive at, or get a lux meter and do the calculation to get approximate PAR from it, so whatever you get on Lux meter x 100 that and x 0,15 whatever you got, and that's as close as you can get to PAR, keep in mind that this can be a bit off on LED light and is better used on incandescents, fluorescent lights, high-intensity discharge lamps (HID) lights.
TH-cam is amazing.
nice vid, learnt me some, gotta rewatch a few times to sink it in. #blurple
Thank you. Your video was informative, enlightning and relatively easy for me to understand (mostly)! I'm going to try going beyond my aero garden with some larger plants, as well as the Kratky method. I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos!
Grow some delicious “food”
Tyvion Shaw 🤣🤣🤣 I know right I’ve got some real good fat tomatoes 🍅 growing in my closet.... 🤪
My Daily Vitamins TH&C 😂
@@WOR159 Ha! Well, you can make some killer baking from shake, so in a sense, you're still growing "food"!
The Ripe Tomato Farms true but TH-cam con artists don’t care. I hope cannabis becomes federally legal so YT can lick my butthole...
smokeable food
Thanks for your help bro. Second time through I’m starting to get it more. Third time I think ill be ready lol
Is it safe to convert the living room lights to grow lights? Does it emit UVC? Thank you
Great video! Except one clarification. About 11:30 you're explaining how the manufacturers rate their lights by multiplying 10W diodes * 100 pieces = 1000W but actual draw is 1.8W per diode. My 2cents: Mfgs are using this 'fake' wattage as a way to compare to the industry standard HPS lights. Don't know how accurate that is but they compare HPS 1000W to their 1000W which actually shows the high efficiency of the LEDs. ('same'(ish) HPS light intensity but with much less power ex. 180W. Yup, it's very unfortunate to use the W(att) terms for comparing light strength. Obviously as you explain there are much more variables with the light spectrum and plant usable light etc. Cheers!
Right that's exactly what I'm saying, they're doing it to be misleading to compare to HPS draw
@@epicgardeningWhat I got from your message is that the LEDs are LESS EFFICIENT. In reality HPS actually drawing 1000W has similar output to leds drawing 180W ACTUAL watts. So obviously same light output with 180Watts is more efficient. (Confusion is that they label these LEDs as 1000W - that 1000W is not the power draw - it is the equivalency of light output of similar HPS light. Those LEDs actually draw just 180W)
I found a 4300 lumen LED shop light for $15. It worked so great I bought another one. I'm starting seeds so it works great for me.
I've had this stuff explained to me a bunch of times & this is the first time I've actually understood it, so thank you!
You sir... are a gentlemen and a scholar. Thank you for giving me the knowledge to make an educated decision. Thank you for suggesting this light and appreciating the vendor for sending it to you to demo while still being humble about it.
“Here is the science, here is the math, here is the light I like.” I feel like after I start comparing lights this one will just speak for itself.
“Do not buy a light without seeing the floor chart” is my biggest take away.
Appreciate this my friend.
dont buy an LED light without looking at the spectral chart and dont buy this light. it is terrible
@@epicgardening You really are not helping people find a good light. blue/red lights are NOT the way to go.
@@modernfiddler5475 What do you recommend ? :)
@@blackbird69xxx That depends on several things... What is your budget, what do you want to grow, how big of an area, etc... Spectrum King has several decent options to choose from, Spyder Fluence lights are pretty much top of the line but they are pretty expensive. RapidLED.com has a lot of good options for DIY builds for reasonable prices. The most important thing to look for is a light that has a lot of white diodes that is supplemented with red (620 & 660 nm) diodes, this will give you a complete spectrum. Fruiting and flowering plants will benefit greatly from increased levels of red light. Things like lettuce, herbs, microgreens don't require boosted levels of red light. Familiarize yourself with spectral charts. I would disregard most of what Epic Gardening is telling you, he has a very limited understanding of horticulture LED lighting.
chilledgrowlights.com/ - This site is a great resource to better understand the nuances of growing plants with LEDs. Check out their "Learn the basics" links at the bottom of their website. They also sell good horticulture lights as well as components for DIY builds.
I hope this helps point you in a better direction. Epic Gardening is basically a glorified commercial showing people the most expensive and wasteful methods for cultivating plants. The light featured here is about 10 years behind the curve in LED horticulture technology/understanding. Good luck to you!
what an excellent command of the english language you have
Said perfectly
Yea, this guy went to school or something, for sure.
That's not ENGLISH, it may be American
nailed it pal. its a shame that they promo them in all sorts of ways that confuse, any company that's listening, get your messaging right and rule the market
Hello, I have a question. I see that depending on the height of the light, the PPFD readings reduce as square footage increases. Should I be rotating my plants to equally distribute the variability in PPFD readings? Thanks!
I wish someone had answered this. I can only afford one light fixture and my seedlings are getting really leggy without one. We’re really at sea with this stuff.
Yes, please, does anyone know???
I bought two-headed light for my seedlings...
lost me at food
I got that joke ,funny. Check my videos out
Thank you for this video! It is the most concise and detailed explanation on the specs of grow lights. Due to physical limitations in my apartment I am unable to have a hanging grow light over my plants. I do, however, have two gooseneck adjustable standing grow lights that I use mainly for my orchids and a small plumeria tree. The specifications for these types of grow lights would be different than the square or rectangular hanging lights, e.g. PPFD. It would be great if you can do a review of some sort for these types of grow lights.
I am going to be using the light for orchids as well. I am using a cheap red/blue one on an orchid as we speak and I have noticed that it really darkens the color. I would be more interested in the white lights even if they are not as efficient. I would be interested to know if you have found something you like.
What type of light do recommend for succulent seeds? 600w led tonic?
You literally have everything I need. Haha. I'll be transforming our old refrigerator to some sort of seed starting station and I'm currently looking into grow lights. Thanks as always Kev!
I want you to tell us the best cheap lights , best midpriced lights, and expensive lights. Way to mathy for me
You can't directly define certain lights as the best, because you can't be sure that this light fits all plants.
This was so helpful. Can you do a follow up to show how to ideally set up an area for grow lights?
You bet I will!
Great idea.
Made mine from pallet wood, a tower shelf. Top for starting seedlings, bottom for main growth. Can make from PVC tubing and joints. Use radiator reflector or other reflective sheets. Kitchen foil is delicate but can mount on cardboard.
Grow tents are cheap. But all depends on circumstances like space in a room. Personally I do it cheap as possible sacrificing my energy.
Fifty bucks for a grow tent I think I have seen a few years ago... can't remember for sure.
If we're using purely grow lights for growing (i don't have a sunny window or a backyard to place them outside) do you have to be on the look out for a certain stage of growth? Do you need to synthesis an experience for the plant? (I once saw a video of a woman slowly pushing her plant around to mimick a storm for the plant)
Right now i have a batch of seedlings (4 of each, parsley, lavender, jalapeño, sage, chives, pumpkins) they're growing well and i've spaced them out for their necessary light requirememts and have a medium sized fan blowing on the lowest setting to give the effect of natural wind. Do i need to do anything else? I know with poinsettas you have to plan the dark-light settings in order for them to bloom. Anything like that i should anticipate?
This is an ad. Some of the statements made in this video may be misleading, especially when they address lights supplied by anyone other than the sponsor.
So, it's important to understand that this clip is biased toward it's sponsor's products. It's an ad.
STILL lots of good knowledge but yeah you''re right
Honestly this is 95% good clean overview theory. Guy is putting in a great amount of effort into educating us for basically free... I am happy he can get a touch of product placement benefit for himself in for his time. Reciprocity and time value are important incentives for creators and educators.
What’s the best normal led light bulb to use for indoor plants? I’m currently just using a led general purpose 75w equivalent daylight bulb
I cultivated your like button.
You're fast!
@@epicgardening I facilitated the thumb erection icon
was going to ignore because the thumbnail has a goofy guy on it but I am glad I didn't skip. I already have my own set up but you explained the detailed part of lighting that I did not understand in a very easy to follow way! (in simpler terms you explained it at a level that my High school diploma educated self was able to follow without trouble!)
What's a good led grow light for someone on a budget. I am growing in 8 ft in length 3.5 width closet Thank you for your time and info . Awesome video
Brothers 4 Life The agromax is Well suited for covering up to a 2′ x 2′ vegetative space or a 1.5′ x 1.5′ flowering space.
- Light Specs: 10,920 lumens, 4000K Full-Spectrum white
- Power Specs: 65w, 0.54A @ 120v Your growing space will determine your light choice. That and your budget. I have grown with a combination of the budget “burpele “ lights in veg and then augmented that with some sun when in the flowering stage. I just bought a SpiderFarmer 2000 to see if I can pull off a completely indoor grow this time. Best of luck to you!
Nicely done. Kinda looks like a ledtroniks advert though😉 some great info there though for all the ppl who dont know👊🏻
For casual use-particularly for ornamental house plants-is there any reason that I shouldn’t just use white consumer LEDs so I can supplement light for my plant in a dark corner while keeping an aesthetic environment for humans?
Just a white LED bulb? I dont know, it should be at least 3000 lux bright, but I dont know if those lights have quality spectrums too. It is not just the intensity but also de quality (whole electromagnetic spectrum) Eidt: I mean, not really whole, but the visible light to us, 400 nm to 700
according to other websites/videos i’ve seen, you’re fine with just white light LED if the plants you’re using the light on will eventually be transplanted outside. the white light is best for germination and seedlings and will be sufficient enough for the early stages and then you’ll need to the other spectrums for fruit growth etc which will be supplied once the plant is transplanted outside. if you’re planing on having an indoor garden from start of seed to finish then i think you may need the other spectrums. i also believe that white LED lights release a certain amount of light from the other spectrums anyways so it ends up working out. mind you this white/day light LED’s will need to have i believe 2-4k lumens and 5000K+ depending on what you’re growing. i’m still learning tho so i may be incorrect.
Did you have a chance to review the Mars TS3000? Buddy.
dude great work you are relly helpfull to the whole community
Very kind of you to say
If you studied to prepare for this and present this fantastic dissertation to us, thank you! Best explanation I've seen yet. Thank you for your efforts to share this knowledge.
I paused after 2 minutes and went to Amazon to buy some new green colored writing notebooks
So what kind i have to order now for to plant 🤷🏻♂️?
I just orderd a eBay light claims to be 8000w just got 4 of them then I see this 😂😭😭 pray for me guys
Defs arent 8k Watts but in SURE they'll do the job. Hows it going so far mate?
Oh god, you blinded me with science!
Scientific analysis can allow us to better understand some things.
I've had several of those EBay cheapy chinesey LED grow lights...But NO MORE.....They are shit....they burn out led's way too fast....and IF you get one that actually lasts for 12 months then you better have another one in waiting to replace it because it will be about to fail on you.....also, some of these chinese sellers just stop replying to your emails if you keep asking them to replace the faulty light.... they no likee the pressure. I started purchasing the Quantum boards with 288 Samsung led's on them , fitted with the Meanwell driver and boy what a difference in ALL output readings.
I changed to an organic feeding regime too....bin those crappy chemicals that create a salt build up in your grow medium that slows the growing program way down , try the Seaweed / kelp feed along with the Fishmeal as your go too feed for your plants....bigger buds....almost impossible to wreck your plants, so easy for new growers too. Also , use Mycorrhizal fungi on your roots when you make the final transplant into the plants last container and your roots just take off. Remember that plant foods DO NOT feed the plant....it feeds the microbes , and more healthy microbes means bigger healthier plants with bigger yeilds....commercial foods are salt based.....salt kills microbes....and stay away from shitty made chinese grow lights....stick to named brands ......and always read those comments that buyers post on crappy chinese led grow lights.
Excellent video. Fascinated by your growing tent. We have a very short northern growing season and it could be helpful for a few plants. Have you done a video on how to construct one?
I've got one planned for the future actually! Should be out next week.
@@epicgardening Thank you so much for your efforts!
I have one on my page. Not to take away from Epic Gardening because i love his videos watch them all.
so basically the consumer is just screwed and there's no way to know
Basically LOL and SMH
Pretty sure 80% of the people coming here could careless about growing food. They're here to find a grow light
Hillbilly I have a few videos up,check it out.thanks
@Tristan George i have a 2x4
Look for one used online near ypu
@Tristan George Spider-Farmer SF1000
Photons don't exist. We've been taught wrong. All light is simply a part of the electromagnetic spectrum simply differing in Frequency. No different than microwaves, radio waves or x-rays only differing in frequency.
“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”
― Nikola Tesla
Tesla is the fuckin man! I have a tattoo of him on my leg and I go into a rant everytime someone asks who he is lol.
@@grownerd4209 Bet he could grow some dank if he was around today
This is such an awesome video. Very informative. Gets right down to the facts.
Glad to hear this!
I’ve watched this like five times and I just must be dumb because I do not understand all that math
strip led are probably the most efficent light at spreading the light evenly..covering a whole area is best..grow lights are designed very badly imo..i use the top bin samsung led but mars hydro have brought out a budget led that is under 200 watts and easily covers a 3x3..3500k with red photon boost diodes.
TOP BIN LM301H+660NM+Cree 730nm ir +Lg 395nm Uv is best !!!
geeklight is your best choice,here it is contact method:what's app:+8613480930269
@Game Changer some do. Have for over a year now. Tho I still manliness and lst all my girls. Check out Migrow on here. Shane shows a top 25 and he addresses that as well..
@Game Changer period huh? Lol...👌
Anyways, have you watched greengene's garden? He's had zero problems with that issue and the product sells well. Soooo, there's that fun fact. Regardless, stay safe and lifted out there, period! 😉
@Game Changer wait do you mean like those basic single bar lights? Or systems like the photo boost or better?
thank you for this! I have some Q's, but over all I think I've got it. Now to find the right LED lighting system for my low-to-no budget and grow big lol
Wow! This video was done well. Informative content that wasn’t too difficult to understand. I’ve been trying to figure out this whole light thing. Maybe you could do another regarding supplementing light for indoor houseplants. As well as, what all these plant growers mean by “indirect, bright light.” Most of my plants require this. I suppose you’d do the math re: your bulb and then gauge it by distance for strength?? Maybe a video for different plant types and their requirements? And include supplementing when light conditions are less than ideal? Am I making sense? Thanks for the information! By far, the best I’ve seen for grow lights.
I'll do a video on indirect bright light soon!
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Wonderful video.
This creator is a great example of how to grow a channel.
I first saw him foraging for food, when that was all the rage. He is now into hydroponic farming which is now the rage. He is adapting to what consumers want to learn about and is not confining himself into a single subject.
I use a lot of grow lights because I live in Canada where we have such long winters with weak light. I've gotten most of my lights from amazon and have had the most success with those advertised as "full spectrum" but after viewing your video I'm not sure if I should trade these in for others which would be even better. Do you have any thoughts about those advertised as "full spectrum"? Also, I remember my Dad using florescent lights in our basement to start seedlings in the spring before planting outside once it got warmer. Do you think florescent lights are even better than the LED (but that they use more energy)?
Thanks for all the info! I agree with the others, it's a lot to take in but very important for success! :-)
Full spectrum is hard to answer, you'd have to look at their spectral output chart and make your decision from there. You can certainly start seeds under fluorescents though!
Hey I'm also in Canada and am planning to do the same, can you please let me know what lights you ended up using? Thanks! 😊
I am not going to claim to be an expert. However I did grow actual “food“ hydroponically for years. Fluorescent light is blue. Which is fine for creating vegetation. But really no plant will begin to flower or bear fruit unless it is exposed to light that is in the yellow/red spectrum. So the answer is probably no. I can’t imagine that you could effectively get your “food“ to flower with fluorescent light. LED lighting generally has a much fuller spectrum of light. So depending on what you did, you would not necessarily have to switch it back-and-forth. I used to switch my crops back-and-forth between fluorescent and HPS.
U know what?, I’ll buy food
GD my brother, you got a hell of a nerd hat..
Great vid. I appreciate your help..
Happy it helped
I cultivated the like button!
Good video man! I spent a bunch of time watching and reading explanations on this stuff and can say you covered my hours of research in 20 mins. nice!
I used to only use T5's and change from 6700k to full spectrum for blooming.. Just starting growing with a SP150 (the 2' one) along side my 6bulb T-5... That SP150 has an incredibly higher level of light penetration. Wicked good LED at probably the most reasonable price I've found. Def recommend if you wanna get more LEDs
You were using only a T5 from start to finish until recently?? what was ur yeild/ set up like?? what is it nw that you added LED cross spectrum?
So much incorrect "information" here. When vendors say "1000W" they are talking about the power required for another type of (inefficient) light, probably incandescent. Then they claim to only require maybe 125W, which would be easily achievable for modern LEDs (i.e., 8x as efficient as incandescent).
That Z5 light, at 1.3umol/J, uses 1.9 times as much electricity to generate the same umol/s as the common "quantum boards." Maybe that doesn't matter some places, but where I live the cost of power is 40cents/kwh.
Ok that was way too technical for me. LOL. I just want to know if an Led light is an idea to use on orchids just during the winter when there's not enough light, for just at home. Is it really necessary to have that "aluminium foil" background? I don't like the look of that in my living room. LOL.
Mon Soymon ::: Maybe start with an inexpensive full spectrum fluorescent fixture first?
I would go with a T5 fluorescent for an orchid
Thank you so much for your replies. I'll look into that.
Mon Soyman its Mylar, not foil and you dont need that he just has a tent.
Great deep & nerdy explanation. I got the micromoles of PAR per joule - efficacy. I do have a question.
Red lights and blue lights have the highest efficacy - but I'll live in the same place with my plants - I need the light myself in winter in NY and red/blue light just doesn't make it for me.
It is a poor choice to get a full spectrum light as far as efficacy for the plants while not burning too much electricity when I start my spring propagation?
w Light 3x3ft
In case you are able to answer - thanks for reading and responding.
I had previously thought I would buy the MARS Hydro TS 1000w LED grow light 3x3 - but this may be a product that you were comparing since I see "1000w" consuming 150w with 342 LEDs - this seems to be what you are advocating against.
My interest in the MARS system was sparked when I watched a Canadian flower farmer switch to them from their fluorescent system and just blow away the old lighting with dark green, sturdy plant growth.
Warmest regards
Jennie
This was an interesting video. Thank you, Kevin. I learned something new just by watching. I've never tried starting seeds under grow lights. Since I got a late start this year, I just purchased plants from one of our local department stores. I want to try growing from seeds next year.
I bet you could grow great weed
Enlightening
I see what you did there :)
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@@epicgardening Great video! Thank you💚
I just purchased the Mars Hydro 6500 to use with the AC infinity grow tent and vent system. I wish you could review more makers of grow tents
some of us just wanna grow that spicy salad...
46- 10 green chilli
Are grow lights needed for house plants during winter? Well, I guess I should ask if it's a good idea to invest in some during winter?
Yes, it is necessary, because plants are inherently lack of sunlight in winter, let alone plants grown indoors.
Ive been trying to find a video on this breakdown for months,thanks
Glad this video helped
Took notes so now I’ll research and try your formulas. You gotta know this stuff if your spending a lot of money on plants or lighting. I feel much mite confident in my search, Thanks.
Thanks for the video. 'liked' it. Would one of these lights serve a tented area 2x4? Is that the max size one of these lights could serve?
These would be a bit better suited to a 12-18" away in a 3x3' tent
@@epicgardening Thanks. Such great info. Would love a video, if you're up for it, giving more brand comparisons and with any info you have about creating a tent about 6x3 and the number of light units needed and options for good light for 24" tall plants.
Hi Sunny,
It depends a little bit on what you are going to grow and how you are going to use your grow area. If you are going to grow high light plants covering your whole grow space, such as tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers or even cannabis, I would recommend two Z5's. Each covering 2'x2' with very high intensity.
Possibly, one Z5 could be hung in the middle of your tent and right below it you place a few high light crops. Just outside of the sweet spot and high intensity, you can grow lower light crops such as herbs and seedlings.
Depending on what crop you are growing and what stage it is in, you want to achieve a certain intensity.
We have made detailed PPFD maps (light intensity maps) that show what intensity both of our lamp models provide at certain heights. The maps also show how big area each intensity will cover at each height.
Uploaded picture of intensity maps:
i.imgur.com/23TgEFu.jpg
The recommendations on the right-hand side of each map are quite high and are meant to include cannabis which has very high light requirements.
It is dependent on what you are growing and what stage your plant is currently in.
Personally, I use 150 PPFD for vegetable seeds and younglings until they are at least 2"/5cm tall.
I aim for 200-300 when they have passed 2"/5cm in height and only for young adults and adult fruiting plants do I aim for 300-500 PPFD.
Everything over 500 is very high intensity and mostly used for cannabis, although it can also be used for fruiting vegetables in their adult state.
I hope this was helpful. Let me know if anything was unclear or if you have any other questions.
Super complete answer. Much appreciated
Can I use a white led light strip just for my indoor plants
It’s okay for some ordinary fill-in light.
Pro tip:
Best growing Light
9 billion years duration
the Sun
:D :D
Thank you for the video :)
Couldn't agree more!
Small Garden Quest it’s great to have a boost indoors during the winter months so you can grow tomatoes!
@@Junzar56 I was just trying to grow a joke. Apparently I am out of season :S
It certainly is when you don't live in the northern or southern hemisphere.
@@SmallGardenQuest ahhh. Epic pun :-D
Haha I need a grow light for dummy course. Like others have said, this is definitely not for beginners. I'm sure it's awesome info for those who can comprehend though lol
Thanks for the well timed video. Your teaching methods should be used as examples for future teachers in training. I had made some tentative selections for grow lights using some of the limited information, the limited numbers, and am glad now that those selections were just tentative. I missed the mark for correct choices. Feeling much more confidant now about changing the choices and moving forward.
Appreciate the kind words Steven. Happy you have some more info going fwd now!
Migrow does all the testing on lights.
Am I mistaken? Did he just do a 180w draw power divided by 100 diodes for the eBay light and then do a 112w draw power divided by 192w potential for the LeDtonix?
I was looking to hit that thumbs up so many times throughout this video. The information kept me intrigued the further you went in this video lesson. Great Job!
Glad to hear this!
This is the best explanation I found...THANK YOU SO MUCH EPIC!!! YOU'RE A TRUE PLANT INFO GENIUS!!! KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK BRO!!!
im here for learning how to grow "food" brain food that is!
Wow, just wow. Ignorance-stomping, real information, delivered efficiently=GOLD!! Thank you.
1) get away from bkurple lights
2) PAR is now considered EPAR for extended PAR to include Deep Red and IR obove 700nm.
3) Emerson effect
If you want to look at good lights, take a look at HLG or even better, look at the Electric Sky from the Green Sunshine Company.
I've got 2 ES180s right now, actually :)
@@epicgardening are you happy with the spectrum off the es180?
or MIGRO
@@epicgardening
That's awesome! I'm rocking 2x es300 and the results are just phenomenal
@@bennyb6071 the Spectrum in the ES make a huge difference. My veg time is cut down and the buds are massive. I would say the most impressive thing about these lights are the light penetration.
I like to start my veggies 6-8 weeks before planting out- About how many actual watts would you say is necessary for growing seedlings and keeping the leaves very close, nice thick stems and not getting leggy?
My question as well. 🤔
great review yet I cant take it seriously as you are an interested party. By that I mean: you advertise certain lights and earn a commission from your amazon links. That ruins the entire video
I see what you're saying but he doesn't go all out promoting them like there's nothing better. He just mentions in kind of a passive way. I can't knock the man for makin a buck
A REAL gardener talking? The sensible points to shopping for high performance grow lamps are covered here. Thank you Epic Gardening.
@Epic Gardening great video sir! May I ask your personal opinion on what light you would recommend for a 4x3 space?
as my view, to choose 8 lights (1.2*1.2m) for 4 * 3
Hope you enter our sponsorship video much love and respect
Number 1: Dont buy one, make one yourself, save 50% cost at least and better product.
Do you have any links for builds or suggested parts? I would love to build something for a 2x4 area.
@@Kghost0311 samsung 301b led strips, they are available in different sizes. i use plain alluminium U profile pieces of the lenght i require for the room i want to use it in. Meanwell driver to feed the led strips.
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but clearly understood in detail what you shared. I'm confident we can grow two Basel one Cilantro plants indoors this winter. Thanks!
I gotta watch this again when I’m not baked. Just wanted to try and understand as I’m using old school MH and HPS 600w bulbs and would like to try LEDs but don’t trust the claims of led companies
Highly recommend coming back when sober 😂
Literally every single application of LEDs in any market they appear in will be vastly incorrect.
Basically divide the number in half and it's mostly accurate.
Hell, any consumer grade product will not be accurate by orders of magnitude. Air compressors. Listed torque. CFM for blowers. If you want accurate numbers, buy professional grade. It will be 2 or 3 times the cost of consumer grade, but it will actually perform at listed numbers.
I just bought the cheapest led I found on amazon and just harvested 40 grams
what one and how much???
can you send a link please?
charlie swww.google.co.uk/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwj-1arFzeXpAhWIrO0KHaWIBaYYABAEGgJkZw&sig=AOD64_1f9TI1psHMX523CmAf_hjPI5DfOg&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiz1aLFzeXpAhXNaRUIHbtYAWUQwg96BAgKEAo&adurl=
i going to make my own L.E.D lights and got tests to see what mix of light is better. wish me luck
Would love to understand what veggies do well with grow lights and what conditions are needed (intensity, duration, color spectrum) especially for slow growing plants and slips (sweet potatoes for example). What is the go it references to learn more? Thanks in advance, Gino
Awesome video brother I think you're right bro I've been studying lights myself thanks for the info I did subscribe I did hit the I rang the bell hope you do the same
Right back at you boss
Your information is confusing to most people and is inaccurate you're determining micromoles and jewels in a light that is giving you specifics and not taken from a light meter or PPM meter or any other meter of that you just going off the information they're giving you you got to determine Watts and determine which diodes are using
Bro, you broke this down so excellently. I really appreciate this information. Couldn’t purchase an LED cuz I was so confused about quality and what standards to measure lights by. Again thanks!
Pay attention to the wattage, ppf and ppe of the lamp.
@@hishinegrouplimited8020 i bit the bullet and bought 960 watt LED’s off Alibaba. Yes, that’s right, a Chinese company. Was ready for a disaster, but super f’in stoked on quality and price. I just couldn’t afford them here where they were easily in the region of a $1,000 and more. So I had to take a chance- and happy I did.
@@caelomarroquin111 Somehow many people are very afraid to buy products made in China, but they are actually very good.
True but that's why LED diodes last so long. Like quantum boards they put a ton of diodes on a board so they dont need to run the diode so hard so it burns out in a short time..
Samsung 301lmb diodes are run at like 0.8 percent of what the diode can actually produce. More diodes less power draw equals a long lasting quality light. Anyways thanks for the video.
Yeah, I need to look into the Samsung diodes for sure.
Going to come back and review this one later. Thank you for the detailed information!
You're welcome!
The Phantom XL is producing 3.1 micro moles per joule. Anyways that's its efficacy. That thing is fantastic.
Well done short explanation. Sure glad I watched this before I opened my wallet.
hmmmm....micro-Moles per second per square meter......okay....so the Mole is Avogadro's number, roughly 6 by 10 to the 23 photons...or a unit amount of substance....
Thank you so much for this video. It’s the first explanation of grow lights that didn’t make me dizzy and feel dumb.
I plan to start growing how peppers. What would be an ideal light for starting out a few trays of seeds and getting them to the point of ready to go in the ground? And would this be the same light that would be ideal to grow the same peppers for good yield fruiting inside?
I was thinking of getting a T5 HO fluorescent for the first part and then maybe something like this or a Mars 250 for getting fruit.
Glad to hear this made sense to you - for starting seeds, a T5 Fluorescent light would do really well, and then yeah the Mars line is a good 'mid range' Chinese manufacturer
Epic Gardening Cool, but I’ll try to find an equivalent manufacturer that’s in the US.