I had the r820 towers and was so happy i picked up the Rf7 3s. Moved the r820s to surround duties in the home theater. I love the rf7s so much. Musical as hell, and great for movies too. Cheers
I've got the RP8000F II in my lounge for the front stage. I've got two sets of the R800F in my dad's lounge for front and surround stage. I can safely the quality from the RP is far superior. You can hear a refined sound and no resonance in the cabinet. The mid range is where the big change is. For a party, the R800F is wild and awesome
@homecinemaking397 you're doing awesome work man. I did take your advice hey. 4 RP1400SW and Dirac Live Bass Control. I'd love to share my results with you
The RP8000ii & The R800 had a muffled bass sound to them. The Rf7III had a clearer sound the first time but the bass was weak. However, they sounded even better with the bass on the second demo towards the end. Thanks for sharing this. I think that I know which to get now.
After measuring several times I couldn't find a way to make RP-6000Fs to fit, so I'm leaving the RP-600Miis in place and am waiting on my new sub to ship (a RP-1200SW). It will replace a set of mismatched subs and will be a "sub"-stantial improvement in low frequency performance.
Nice comparison video👍 Over the last 5 years I’ve had the RP-6000 then upgrade to the RP-8000.Just that upgrade made a huge difference in my room and gave me a wider and fuller sound.My room is 8mx5m. Last year I was fortunate to buy a pair of demo RF-7ii .Oh my goodness what a difference they made in my room for both stereo listening and home theater. My dream speakers are still the B&W 802 D4 and I often wonder if it will be an upgrade or just a lateral move.A friend of mine has a pair and when listening to his I can’t really hear a major difference on my favorite songs.
Nice. Seemed to have phase issues the further from the center you went. The RF 7 sounded out of phase but that could be how the camera was picking things up. Would have been interesting if you swapped positions of the speakers.
Great comparison I could definitely hear the differences on my system. Very helpful! I've got the RP8000F II and I've heard the knock on them is that the midrange is better in the Klipsch models up the line. I do really like them, though, with a 20 degree toe in they have a seamless sound stage.
Love my cherry Rf7s though the base/stands leave something to be desired aesthetically. Things bang and sound primo. All good, yet theyre in the right order sonically from good/in to best/out. Listening on Diamond 12.4 at the moment though. *thumbsup* accurate info the way you break them down at the end is top notch and preciate the efforts. Keep on it! *edit*spelling
Thanks for the great video, very interesting comparison. For me you are simply the best reviewer out there. Very sympathic and absolutely great in the analytical approach, top
Nice video! I know it's next to impossible to tell without being in person. But did it seem like the RP 8000 II's had the least bass of the three? I have a set arriving tomorrow.
Hi I am planing for 9.2cahnnel klipsch home theater now I purchased R800f and RP 502C and I remaining sub and surround should be RP will the R 800 F effects and sound issue
I would say rather use R for surrounds as it will not make such a big difference. Then rather do RP upfront where there will be a big difference. Are you in South-Africa?
I’m about to be selling my rf7iiis. I was thinking of getting the svs evolution pinnacle or the bowers and Wilkins 703 s3. I love a lively speaker with clarity and sparkle with a big pound stage for home theater. Recommendations?
You sold me on the RPs for the front and the Rs for surround. I was sitting here wondering if ether was a good choice. If I go RP for fronts, do I go RP for bass?
Klipsch has made some interesting choices with their market segmentation and naming over the years. Back in the early 2010s their "reference" line (RB-61 II, 81 II, etc...) had titanium tweeters and cerametallic woofers. Those are features only found in the Reference Premier line now. The regular "reference" line now has aluminum tweeters and IMG woofers. I'd be curious to see how the RF-7 III's stack up against some of the older big Klipsch towers, such as the KLFs. The KLFs are legendary. Even the "baby" KLF-10 is on par with the RF-7 III on paper. The KLF-30 should outclass it. I love Klipsch, but it's hard to justify paying $4000+ USD for a pair of RF-7 IIIs when speakers like the Tekton Pendragon exist for $2500 or less.
I own 2 rp8000F II for 3 months, thinking already about shifting with the RF7. Do you know if a Mark IV is on the go ? It's already the case for the heresy and forte
@@homecinemaking397 I don't think that is correct, a Klipsch Insider has said that it will be coming next year in 2025, so I believe there will be an RF-7 IV & RC-64 IV coming soon ;)
Maybe swap positions even those big ones weight as normal US M/F ?Does it make difference, mic says i like first one next to you. Eyes and brains says i should get more bass on bigger drivers :O
You have a very keen eye and ear. I did actually do this but not a huge difference. the lack of bass on the RF7 is that they are not 100% played in yet.
Almost feels like the RF’s needed more power to perform to their optimal range. RP’s sounded really good on that Stereo setup. Always enjoy your video’s, thanks for the efforts of showcasing these great speakers side by side. Strange trickling water kind of noise in the background, …maybe internal water fountain? What Bentley range would you put up against the RP series?
Hi, great video, im seriously thinking on selling my rp 8000f I to my brother (he is in love with them, and i love them too), and upgrade to rf 7 III, Im a big klipsch sound fan, do you think they worth the money? I love deep strong bass, do you think rf 7s would make me happy in all aspects? My audio room its just 4x4 meters its small but i dont care if they are too much for the space
@@homecinemaking397 thank u for your quick response!!, im running them with an old yamaha rx a2020 9.2 receiver on stereo mode with a 12 inch klipsch sub, if i get the rf 7s im thinking on getting a rotel RA-1572 mk2, do you think ill get a nice synergy with that set up?
@@homecinemaking397 im from mexico, marantz integrated amps are very nice but too expensive for me, i think the rotel its the best cost-benefit option for me, we have to pay around 25-30% extra on taxes with every imported item :.(
Not sure if its room size, speaker placement or just that the RF7iii needs a lot more power before bass kicks in but the R and RP had wayy more bass response.
I have two tower speakers with 15 inch woofers. Reason I’m here thinking bout the 800 speaker model thought about going from the four 15s to 4 8’ woofers looks like more space. Wish I did that years ago before I got the big boys I thought these tower speakers in this video wouldn’t have the bass my four 15s have
@@homecinemaking397 I noticed a bit of clipping as well. Perhaps turn down the mic gain a bit? The speakers should still overpower the background noise and avoid clipping.
At 6:34, you claim if Klipsch will release a IV iteration of the RF-7s & you say they won't but I believe it has been confirmed by a Klipsch insider that they will in fact be releasing Klipsch RF-7 IV & RC-64 IV updated models next year in 2025, could be possibly announced later this year but it is definitely confirmed to be coming, you have to remember the top end Flagship Reference models have a longer generational gap than the RP series do which is typically every 3-4 years but the RF-7s typically have a 7-9 year gap, the RF-7 I released in 2001, RF-7 II in 2010 & RF-7 III in 2017, also the RF-7 IIIs as well as the RC-64 III have a 1.75" Titanium Compression Driver not 1.25" ;)
@@homecinemaking397 Morne do you think you can get some sort of confirmation from your distributor Homemation if there will be a RF-7 IV iteration? I suppose they couldn't really tell you either way if or if not it is in fact in the pipeline for an eventual release sometime later this year or in 2025, the Klipsch Insider could be wrong but who really knows ;)
RF7: good low bass but missing higher and midbass and their precision, RP800F II: Good higher and midbass but missing the really low frequencies. That`s just what I heard but I think I would take the RP8000F II adding a 12 or even 15 inch active subwoofer for each box. I think the RF7 would sound much better to me if it was a 3-way system.
Too bad Klipsch doesn’t make the Legend series anymore. While the build quality was abysmal at best we actually preferred the sound of the KLF-30’s when compared directly to the RF-7’s. They sounded closer to the Heritage than RF
The microphone placement and gain had way, way, way too much to do with the sound in the video The bass was clipping on the inner pairs, and way less in the RP-7. In "real life", this would not be the case. IMO, the mic input was set too high, and its pickup pattern was too narrow. All things being considered, I would spring for the RF-7s without any hesitation, "sight unheard". Sorry for not blowing as much sunshine around as some others, but that's what struck me.
The only thing I have to say with the comparison. Is the rf7 are almost double the rms. So if you want to really hear the comparison crank up the volume 😊
I had the r820 towers and was so happy i picked up the Rf7 3s. Moved the r820s to surround duties in the home theater. I love the rf7s so much. Musical as hell, and great for movies too. Cheers
I've got the RP8000F II in my lounge for the front stage. I've got two sets of the R800F in my dad's lounge for front and surround stage. I can safely the quality from the RP is far superior. You can hear a refined sound and no resonance in the cabinet. The mid range is where the big change is. For a party, the R800F is wild and awesome
I agree 100%
@homecinemaking397 you're doing awesome work man. I did take your advice hey. 4 RP1400SW and Dirac Live Bass Control. I'd love to share my results with you
@@wayneiceman that can only be epic👌 rating from my 4xRP1200💪
@@wayneiceman you can mail me morne@homecinemaking.co.za
@@homecinemaking397 yes indeed. When you in Durban, let me know. I'll give you a demo of the setup.
I glad that you finally afford RF7III after almost 7 years 😉👌
The RP8000ii & The R800 had a muffled bass sound to them. The Rf7III had a clearer sound the first time but the bass was weak. However, they sounded even better with the bass on the second demo towards the end. Thanks for sharing this. I think that I know which to get now.
@@ShmaAdonaiEhad RF7 all the way if its in budget👍
Thanks for the great video! How would you compare the 8000f to those bower and Wilkins behind you? I have the 8000f version 1 and love them.
After measuring several times I couldn't find a way to make RP-6000Fs to fit, so I'm leaving the RP-600Miis in place and am waiting on my new sub to ship (a RP-1200SW). It will replace a set of mismatched subs and will be a "sub"-stantial improvement in low frequency performance.
Good subs👌
I just got an e-mail and should get my sub delivered tomorrow afternoon
Nice comparison video👍
Over the last 5 years I’ve had the RP-6000 then upgrade to the RP-8000.Just that upgrade made a huge difference in my room and gave me a wider and fuller sound.My room is 8mx5m.
Last year I was fortunate to buy a pair of demo RF-7ii .Oh my goodness what a difference they made in my room for both stereo listening and home theater.
My dream speakers are still the B&W 802 D4 and I often wonder if it will be an upgrade or just a lateral move.A friend of mine has a pair and when listening to his I can’t really hear a major difference on my favorite songs.
Thank you🙏 the BW802 will be a upgrade fore sure this is one of my dream sets also. But the RF7 will still keep a place in your hart mark my words💪
I got RP6000F ii because of room size. Wish i went for 8" but they still are great
@@d_manoil1647 i also prefer a 8”👍
Nice. Seemed to have phase issues the further from the center you went. The RF 7 sounded out of phase but that could be how the camera was picking things up. Would have been interesting if you swapped positions of the speakers.
@@pettigrewtristan the rf7 have big phase issues in general.. alot of sloppy work there:(
Grats on 3k + subs
Thank you🥃
Great comparison I could definitely hear the differences on my system. Very helpful! I've got the RP8000F II and I've heard the knock on them is that the midrange is better in the Klipsch models up the line. I do really like them, though, with a 20 degree toe in they have a seamless sound stage.
The difference in price between the RP-8000 II & RF7 III's is prohibitive for many people.
20:30 what kind of receiver do we need? 7.2? I want to start with 5.1 or 7.1 and work up to a 7.2.4.
@@NinjaSushi2 klipsch is very efficient but i would still start with a Denon 3800 or Marantz cinema 50 to future proof.
@@homecinemaking397 thank you
Love my cherry Rf7s though the base/stands leave something to be desired aesthetically. Things bang and sound primo.
All good, yet theyre in the right order sonically from good/in to best/out. Listening on Diamond 12.4 at the moment though.
*thumbsup* accurate info the way you break them down at the end is top notch and preciate the efforts. Keep on it!
*edit*spelling
Agreed on the base and thank you👌
Great comparison can definitely tell differences. Likes the RF sound best. Would like to see comparisons of the Pro in wall speakers from Klipsch
Klipsch are changing hands now in SA so will see what i can do later.
Great job!
I sure appreciate all your efforts with this comparison.
Thank you so much. It helped me out a lot. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it, anytime👌
How would you compare the RF-7 III to the kef meta r11 ?
How do you compare the RP800Fii against the Bower Wilkins speakers in the back on the video sir? Thanks
More detail on the B&W but the RP8000 have better bass.
The rfiiis are legit amazing in every single aspect music and movies. I’m amazed everyday by them.
Hi, Which pair would you pick between a brand new pair of RP-800F II or a used pair of RF-7 II for the same price?
@@peterchang4851 RF7 all day long!
Thanks for the great video, very interesting comparison.
For me you are simply the best reviewer out there.
Very sympathic and absolutely great in the analytical approach, top
Nice video! I know it's next to impossible to tell without being in person. But did it seem like the RP 8000 II's had the least bass of the three? I have a set arriving tomorrow.
I would not say least but its a different tighter bass.
@@homecinemaking397 thanks
Hi
I am planing for 9.2cahnnel klipsch home theater now I purchased R800f and RP 502C and I remaining sub and surround should be RP will the R 800 F effects and sound issue
I would say rather use R for surrounds as it will not make such a big difference. Then rather do RP upfront where there will be a big difference. Are you in South-Africa?
Wonder how the rf compare to the old rf,like rf3 , Which are at giveaway prices used?
@@alanrobinson2229 small increases.
I’m about to be selling my rf7iiis. I was thinking of getting the svs evolution pinnacle or the bowers and Wilkins 703 s3. I love a lively speaker with clarity and sparkle with a big pound stage for home theater. Recommendations?
Both good options, i have the B&W and will be getting the SVS evo soon so then i can do a shootout.
JTR
You sold me on the RPs for the front and the Rs for surround. I was sitting here wondering if ether was a good choice. If I go RP for fronts, do I go RP for bass?
@@NinjaSushi2 RP for bass yes👌
RF7 uses completely different tweeter. It has a compression driver and RP-line uses "horn loaded dome"
You are correct compression vs LTS my point was that both are Titanium vented👌
You still have the b and w CT speakers in the other room?
O yes and i love them👌
Klipsch has made some interesting choices with their market segmentation and naming over the years. Back in the early 2010s their "reference" line (RB-61 II, 81 II, etc...) had titanium tweeters and cerametallic woofers. Those are features only found in the Reference Premier line now. The regular "reference" line now has aluminum tweeters and IMG woofers.
I'd be curious to see how the RF-7 III's stack up against some of the older big Klipsch towers, such as the KLFs. The KLFs are legendary. Even the "baby" KLF-10 is on par with the RF-7 III on paper. The KLF-30 should outclass it.
I love Klipsch, but it's hard to justify paying $4000+ USD for a pair of RF-7 IIIs when speakers like the Tekton Pendragon exist for $2500 or less.
Hello, what is the first song title please ?
@@steve-7838 cant remember i will need to go back and check.
@homecinemaking397 thanks 😊
Hello. will there be a difference in sound between rp8000ii and rp6000ii. Or is the difference only in power?
Differance yes on the bass department. Bigger and fuller down low and mid.
I own 2 rp8000F II for 3 months, thinking already about shifting with the RF7. Do you know if a Mark IV is on the go ? It's already the case for the heresy and forte
As far as i know no this will be the last of the RF range.
@@homecinemaking397 I don't think that is correct, a Klipsch Insider has said that it will be coming next year in 2025, so I believe there will be an RF-7 IV & RC-64 IV coming soon ;)
@@oniiz8685 would be cool if that is true but i have not gotten wind of it.
Maybe swap positions even those big ones weight as normal US M/F ?Does it make difference, mic says i like first one next to you. Eyes and brains says i should get more bass on bigger drivers :O
You have a very keen eye and ear. I did actually do this but not a huge difference. the lack of bass on the RF7 is that they are not 100% played in yet.
Please help, where can I find the replacement plate amp for Klipsch R- 12SW or perhaps a good service person that can repair.
Who are the agents in your country?
@@homecinemaking397 I am a South African like you Bro, you are probably my agent😀. I am based in Gauteng Vereeniging
@@dumitshabs8719 drop me a e-mail and lets get you sorted👌
Morne@homecinemaking.co.za
@@homecinemaking397 much appreciated I will DM you 🙏🙏
Almost feels like the RF’s needed more power to perform to their optimal range. RP’s sounded really good on that Stereo setup. Always enjoy your video’s, thanks for the efforts of showcasing these great speakers side by side.
Strange trickling water kind of noise in the background, …maybe internal water fountain? What Bentley range would you put up against the RP series?
At least 300 wpc and 150-200h to break in for better sound
Hi, great video, im seriously thinking on selling my rp 8000f I to my brother (he is in love with them, and i love them too), and upgrade to rf 7 III, Im a big klipsch sound fan, do you think they worth the money? I love deep strong bass, do you think rf 7s would make me happy in all aspects? My audio room its just 4x4 meters its small but i dont care if they are too much for the space
@@GravityMvL its a huge upgrade and if you like the RP8000 you will love the RF7👌
@@homecinemaking397 thank u for your quick response!!, im running them with an old yamaha rx a2020 9.2 receiver on stereo mode with a 12 inch klipsch sub, if i get the rf 7s im thinking on getting a rotel RA-1572 mk2, do you think ill get a nice synergy with that set up?
@@GravityMvL yes the Rotel will work nice and maybe also look at changing from Yamaha to Marantz.
@@homecinemaking397 im from mexico, marantz integrated amps are very nice but too expensive for me, i think the rotel its the best cost-benefit option for me, we have to pay around 25-30% extra on taxes with every imported item :.(
you are doing a fantastic job. earned a sub :)
@@SignorFreeze thank you👌
Not sure if its room size, speaker placement or just that the RF7iii needs a lot more power before bass kicks in but the R and RP had wayy more bass response.
Rf7 not played in nicely yet.
I have two tower speakers with 15 inch woofers. Reason I’m here thinking bout the 800 speaker model thought about going from the four 15s to 4 8’ woofers looks like more space. Wish I did that years ago before I got the big boys I thought these tower speakers in this video wouldn’t have the bass my four 15s have
Is it just me or the sound signature very harsh at the top end
@@zenchannel_ klipsch is a forward sounding speaker.
Great video, as always. A strange noise in the background
Thank you. Damn aircon sorry about that, the mic is very sensitive.
@@homecinemaking397 I noticed a bit of clipping as well. Perhaps turn down the mic gain a bit? The speakers should still overpower the background noise and avoid clipping.
@@wayneiceman yes noticed it also will play with the mic volume👌
At 6:34, you claim if Klipsch will release a IV iteration of the RF-7s & you say they won't but I believe it has been confirmed by a Klipsch insider that they will in fact be releasing Klipsch RF-7 IV & RC-64 IV updated models next year in 2025, could be possibly announced later this year but it is definitely confirmed to be coming, you have to remember the top end Flagship Reference models have a longer generational gap than the RP series do which is typically every 3-4 years but the RF-7s typically have a 7-9 year gap, the RF-7 I released in 2001, RF-7 II in 2010 & RF-7 III in 2017, also the RF-7 IIIs as well as the RC-64 III have a 1.75" Titanium Compression Driver not 1.25" ;)
Would be great but lets see i have different info👌
@@homecinemaking397 Morne do you think you can get some sort of confirmation from your distributor Homemation if there will be a RF-7 IV iteration? I suppose they couldn't really tell you either way if or if not it is in fact in the pipeline for an eventual release sometime later this year or in 2025, the Klipsch Insider could be wrong but who really knows ;)
@@oniiz8685 the info i got from them was no. But you never know🤷♂️
Hope you are correct, that would mean a sale on iii’s.
Rp8000fii kick ass! To me they deliver awesome sound compared to those two! And are more compact against rf7s.
Are the klipsch or the bowser and wilkins at thr right side better ? Mayby test 😂
@@1004Oskar klipsch all day long
Rf needs more base ,but the clarity is beautiful
They just need more play in time then the bass is👌
You don't need more base when you got subs lol
Great video 👏🏻
RF7: good low bass but missing higher and midbass and their precision, RP800F II: Good higher and midbass but missing the really low frequencies. That`s just what I heard but I think I would take the RP8000F II adding a 12 or even 15 inch active subwoofer for each box. I think the RF7 would sound much better to me if it was a 3-way system.
Good work
Thank you👌
Would be happy to watch your videos with a better microphone when you are talking 😊
This is something i need to look into…
Too bad Klipsch doesn’t make the Legend series anymore. While the build quality was abysmal at best we actually preferred the sound of the KLF-30’s when compared directly to the RF-7’s. They sounded closer to the Heritage than RF
The microphone placement and gain had way, way, way too much to do with the sound in the video The bass was clipping on the inner pairs, and way less in the RP-7. In "real life", this would not be the case. IMO, the mic input was set too high, and its pickup pattern was too narrow. All things being considered, I would spring for the RF-7s without any hesitation, "sight unheard". Sorry for not blowing as much sunshine around as some others, but that's what struck me.
IS THAT $20,000
@@kcleach9312 RSA South African rand.
The only thing I have to say with the comparison. Is the rf7 are almost double the rms. So if you want to really hear the comparison crank up the volume 😊
Thumbnail is appropriate for klipsch. Not in a good way.
@@armadilllo 🤣😉👍
The 8000 rp has more bass than the rfs
Only because they have not been played in properly but the RF when played in properly has way more bass.
we think the Amp was mid grade at best .....the 10's run away in a bass contest , with a heavy amp
*DynAudio ALL THE WAY!! I will NEVER buy Klipsche again. What a waste of money.*
no bass heads! ;)
Terrible comparison with out adjusting the bass to make the most of the big boys
Speaker switch boxes don't do the speakers any justice, direct is better.
I agree but only way to AB test.
@@homecinemaking397 I understand you 👍
this is only paid advertisement
@@budterence85 ?