Everything I HATE About The Yamaha Road Star Warrior 1700...
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Today I'm going over the things I dislike about the Yamaha Road Star Warrior 1700. There's not a lot to hate, but I found a few issues.
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Warriors do not have high compression ratio. Like not at all
Ha! You're totally right! I swear I had a mechanic explain the hard start and contribute it to the high compression engine. Turns out that's not the case. Thanks for the correction.
It's more about the long stroke and huge pistons on this engine that causes the "delayed" start.
Chuck Clark 100%, like the roadliner/raider
Lol it's like 8.5:1
i heard they had a high torque starter - it cranks slowly and sounds weird - at least mine does but always starts as long as the battery is charged
The Yamaha warrior 1700 is one of the most beautiful motorcycles I have ever seen. Way ahead of its time. I wouldn’t mind keeping one completely stock. Once you read more about the history & engineering that went into it, you’ll appreciate the bike more.
lol except for that stupid canon exhaust I did fright n prep at a Yamaha dealer in Tampa Fl back in 2002 when they first came out I though they looked great but when people bought them the first thing they did was get a set of bubs pipes and pick something off the V star chrome goody wall some cover or grips or whatever Yamaha though of to change out and make more money lol
@@johnrhodes101875 nothing wrong with that exhaust. I like it. It goes well with that bike. Sure it looks funny but I don’t mind it.
I literally just picked up a 04 warrior. Coming off a 06 gsxr 1000. I really like the bike. A couple things you complained about is preference not really a issue with the bike self. I think they are comfortable to ride. And id much rather take this on a long trip then a super sport.
As for power. Eh yeah its not the fastest. But its a trade off. You dont have the weight of the m109r nor the sheer lack of agility. After a while. It becomes more important about useable power/torque. Not max. Thats great you can do 0-60 in less then 3 seconds. but in 2 seconds your going to be in the back seat of the car in front of you. Thats great you can do 150mph. And doing that for any real amount of time is exhausting.
IMO as long as the bike can get out of its own way. And be better and faster then 80% of the vehicles on the road. Its a good bike.
No one buys a warrior and keeps it stock. Couple simple mods like v stacks on the throttle bodies, and a performance exhaust really brings this bike to life. I had a 06, went through pegs like crazy lol. Great bike and super reliable.
I have an 02 number 8 off the line had it since 02 if you was fortunate to get em then there was kits offered from star.racing.pistons,cams,injectors,intake and exhaust turned it into a beast. Had all that installed in 03 super fun bike to ride after that. 107,000 miles and still going strong 👍
Wow that’s sick man, what hp & tq numbers do you have with the modifications?
@@ericx7476 I have a Cobra exhaust, Barnett clutch kit w/ 85lb springs, BAK w/ K&N filters, Diablo Rosso 3s for rear and Angel GT for front, PC5, NGK Iridium plugs, running Motul motor and gear oil, rebuilt the forks with Traxxion Dynamics fork springs w/ 30W. The bike went from 89.09hp and 72.49 lb-ft of torque to 109.05 hp and 99.04lb-ft of torque... I'm in the process of installing Galfer braided front and rear brake lines with DOT 5.1. We'll see if I dig into porting and a BBK.
This guy has a lot of opinions...but yes the stock exhaust and bars I had to upgrade right away. But who sticks to all stock
@@ericx7476 97hp 110tq I think we're the numbers
how much miles now?
Glad I’m not the only one that looks like a noob trying to get that kickstand down 😂. It’s either effortless or impossible to get down!
Leaked oil all over the kickstand while changing the clutch - haven’t had an issue with the kickstand since hahaha
I use my hand a lot on mine
It needs a nub it something coming off of it. Things a pain in the ass even with my skinny ass heel
OMG! I honestly thought it was just me & my technique! 😅 I'm very happy 2 C it's, "a thing"! Lol
@@bigbark4627 just lubricate the hinge regularly
As a Warrior owner I appreciate your honest criticism.
You have there an earlier model. 02-04. Later models had slightly different handlebars and foot positions that make a better riding position but the stock seat does leave alot to be desired.
The kickstand just needs to be lubricated.
I agree, the seat isn't the best for long haul, but there are options. My only complaint, with the Warrior, is that it's only a 5 speed. Don't know how many times I've caught myself trying to hit 6th gear.
I bought one new in 2002, the first year. I agree the seat was hideous. I replaced my seat with a mustang two piece saddle and it is a world of difference. As for power, it has plenty. But is not a vrod crusher, but it is no slouch. Even at 21 years old mine still runs great. Still looks well above average for a 21 year old bike.
I believe I'm the guy who bought the blue warrior with the fairing you show in the video. I've been riding everything from snowmobiles/motorcycles name it, since 8 yrs old and I love this bike. Feels flickable like my crf450 (for a 600lb bike) but she don't like to stop. I've learned you have to hit the back break first, get the rear to sag, then hit the front. Otherwise that back tire slides way too easy without much stopping power. Good Video, and thx for the bike...lol...I'm still enjoying it.
No kidding! That's awesome! Glad to hear she's still out there running strong! 💯👍
@@JonsMotoGarage Jon, do you know of a good shop in town that can rebuild the engine when it needs it. Most of these shops say no. I don't understand that there are a lot of these bikes out there and guys love them and want them fixed. I joke with my friends I want to be buried with it with my hand on the throttle. Anyway, any good repair shops advise would be appreciated.
@@scotttraub7199 unfortunately, I don't have any good recommendations with the metrics. I have a good harley go-to place. Lol.
I think you might mean hit the back brake first to compress the front. That way when you hit the powerful front it doesn't loft the rear- because you took the slack out. So to speak. A lot less teeter tottering with the front compressed. But cool, at least you figured out how to make it brake better/ safer! Kudos.
Had an ‘02 Warrior for a number of years and loved that bike. It was light, powerful, handled well and was maintenance friendly.
Just got 2003 Warrior for $1700 10k miles in perfect condition
some of your views are obviously opinionated . some other things / i agree on. the comfort / handlebars for example, is straight opinion. my buddy rides one and he loves it, fits him perfect, we go on long rides and he never says its uncomfortable. exhaust. completely agreed. my friends bike has a true dual aftermarket system, it looks nice and sounds great. no issues starting ever, u just need a good, high crank amp battery. have the same issue on my buel xb12. u just need a good battery, a cheap battery does struggle to crank these engines. his bike also has a custom tune / ecu. and man its fast. it launches like a beast, ill throw my front end in the air with a smack in the chest, while i watch him pull away for a good moment. lean angle issue , totally agreed. it scrapes pegs way to easy. however, its handling is quite confident, and you can scrape the pegs in any situation, with confidence. just know where they scrape if you own it. this bike is a beast, my friend has crashed his several time, his girlfriend got pissed and knocked it over twice, and you would never know it by looking. for what this bike has been through, its an absolute tank, with very little cosmetic damage as a result of what its been through. its extremely reliable , never breaking down, needing little maintenance even through a hard life . its unique , with all the harlies out running around, he gets many looks, even from harley guys, as they dont even know what it is. it sounds amazing with his exhaust btw. tops out about 130-135 , ( my xb12 tops about 140, and i can just barely beat him lol ). as with most bikes , its almost always an i love / i hate relationship. there will be things about almost anybike you dont like, and things you also love about that same bike. no hate here bro / i totally appreciate good honest reviews. i do however think this motorcycle , has many more good qualities than bad, its a fantastic motorcycle, capable, reliable , can be made comfortable ( seat / handlebar / peg mods ) , its bulletproof, takes a wicked beating, its fast and reasonable on gas, its unique, it sounds great, they hold there value, for many reasons outside opinion, this is a great bike, even tho thats my opinion.
Agree 👍💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
If I remember, with some work, the warrior was AMA cruiser class champ 3 years running at the drag strip. I will have one eventually
My 07 warrior is fine. Yeah, longer rides are brutal, but still fun. These weren't exactly built for just plain old cruising, they were meant for hitting the curves, and powerful take offs. Some of your dislikes I can agree with. One dislike you should have mentioned is that there are VERY few parts that interchangeable with other yamaha models. And practically zero interchangeable internals. For a 600lb bike, they're fairly flickable in traffic. I absolutely love my warrior and can't see myself getting rid of it anytime soon.
I will add that the stock foot pegs are garbage. But a simple raider peg swap makes it a lot better to ride without the feeling of your feet sliding off the pegs.
Because this machine can feed dust to any harley in it's time that's why u hate it!!!
I am on my 3rd midnight. Like others have said adding some custom touches like a mustang seat and some roland sands 14" apes etc. Etc. Make this a great bike. It's very reliable and I've never had any running issues in my many years of ownership.
I'm offended lol. I have an 06 and it's my first bike ever. It came with aftermarket handlebars, exhaust, and a tail light, which are probably the top 3 things people should change upfront, otherwise the stock version of these bikes look like your fathers old Ford Taurus wagon that nobody wanted to ride in because it was just so plain and ugly. After those foundational mods and a nice paint job, you got yourself a head turner for sure. Plus, feeling the torque on this thing is like nothing else.
Lol. The Taurus analogy is spot on! Hahaha!
I owned a 04 Warrior. It gave me 13 good years before I finally upgraded. Great ride. No major repairs needed during that whole stint.
Have mine straight piped 2 into 1. I've gotta leave for work by 5:30 am and I'm not exactly gentle with the throttle
Oh by the way if you would research the starter you'd realize the reason why it is slow is because it has a compression release so it doesn't wear out the starter as quickly note to you they're only eight to five compression ratio
The Warrior, like every bike, has it's strengths and weaknesses. Some of your complaints (exhaust, handlebars) are legit. Other complaints, IMO, are subjective/opinion/preference. That being said, I have an 05 Midnight with 87,000+ miles that I will likely never sell. I commute to work with it and race the ¼ on weekends. When I bought it (used) 8 years ago, I flew to Virginia Beach and rode it back to Sioux Falls, SD - almost 1500 miles in three days. First time I took a long trip like that on a bike, I was 55 at the time. Was it comfortable for the long ride? Hellz no! Especially since it had forward controls and I have my short-assed legs (28" inseam). But if I was looking for comfort, I would have bought a Gold Wing. So in spite of some shortcomings, should I come across an decent deal, I plan on buying another Warrior to pair with my current one. I like them that much.
I have an extra warrior actually an 02 with vbak lowered etc
Update: I bought a 2nd Warrior. Another 05 Midnight but this one has a Speedstar Stage 4 installed.
Just bought an 08 with 8500mi on it. Great condition with a VH exhaust and Corbin seat. Paid $5K for it here in Texas. The bike is awesome and a definite head turner.
Is it the Raven one that was in DFW area? Damn I forget the moto shop name. I was looking at a beautiful machine around the same time, but it sold before I could pull the trigger. Maybe it's the same one?
Tossing up between the Warrior, M109 R or a Stryker
Prior to watching your TH-cam reviews I had my heart set on a Breakout or a Fatboy .
Thanks for opening my mind to all these different bikes and the pros and cons
Kia ora from Melbourne
My personal fav of the three would be the warrior. But of course it depends what you're looking for. M109r is the most powerful and wild ride. Stryker is probably the most comfortable. All great options, brotha! Thanks for watching and commenting! 💯🤙
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Crack up - just finished watching your things you disliked about the Warrior vid 😂
Would love to buy a Raider but we don't get them here in Australia - unfortunately
Seen a few Strykers around but they look a little plasticky for me .
M109 would be to tempting, to much bike for my skill level and experience
I've only been riding for 2 yrs on a 650 VStar while on my learners ( 2018 Classic) as I love the look .
Original plan was to go to a 1100 cruiser but after seeing these Reviews on your channel and Sean's on SKR motorcycles I've been converted.
Appreciate the reply, love your channel and content
Hopefully you find your perfect bike to trade up to
All the best bro
I had a 2002 Warrior and loved it. I rode that like a sport bike on the twisties
I find the warrior very beautiful; but it looks heavy..... for now ill stick with my honda magna that can do 0-60 in 4.3 sec....thats fun enough for me
I wish this bike would have a fuel gauge on it
I love my 09 warrior and get plenty of compliments from people who are not used to seeing the. Have drag bars on the front and aftermarket 2-1 exhaust. All the dislikes are on point. That kickstand drives me crazy. Wish there would have been more aftermarket parts.
Nice points...😉 but if you like cool factor and power for little 💵 .. change out bars... you got a pretty good boulevarder..
How's it going bro great stuff as always👊🤘
This bike is the greatest thing since humans figured out how to make fire. Ideally find a 2006+ and with an aftermarket exhaust.
I suspect Yamaha put on the bazooka original exhaust as some sort of practical joke. The Bub Enterprises exhaust looks the nicest. Or Cobras. Or V&H.
Jon you could research a little more on the bikes that you make videos of. There's so much potential for you to add value. Instead you choose to drive around making shallow observations. But I guess that takes some work that you don't want to put in? Me too buddy, me too!
The big exhaust was there for a reason. Read about the history of this beautiful machine.
I have an 02 Warrior agree with your dislikes. I think you missed one. My #1, only 100 miles (esh) per tank of gas...
Wait, you get 100?!?! I only get like 85 before my light comes on with my mean streak.. def an upgrade for me!!😂😂
85? Are you full throttle all the time? Wow!!
Even the best bike has something to criticize about it.
so what youre saying is, its a great bike and i should buy one. thanks my man
I had a 2007. Very good handling and good power. They are a little weird I guess but very fun ride!
My Warrior had a yamaha boulevard windshield, churchkey vback, track only computer and Bubbs Jug hugger pipes. I traded out for the Raider and never looked back though.
Hi Jon, thanks for another great video. Did you do a "Everything I love" video about this bike: Roadstar Warrior. If so, can you please send a link because I have not been able to find it. Thanks!!
I CLICKED ON HERE TO SEE THE BAD MOUTHING ABOUT BELOVED WARRIOR - I HAVE AN 2005 WITH 10,000 MILES AS OF MARCH 2021 - BUT I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT HE SAYS - im not a great rider so peg scraping isnt an issue for me - my bar and risers and pipe had already been changed by the PO - yes,the seat is uncomfortable on longer rides +45 mins and also NOT a touring bike (ALSO BASED ON FOOT FORWARD PLACEMENT) - the kick stand is a bad design - MOST POWERFUL BIKES CAN GET YOU IN TROUBLE IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL THOUGH AND OTHER POINTS MADE HERE WHICH RELATE TO MANY BIKES AND STYLES NOT JUST THE WARRIOR - The ''WARRIOR'' logo on the tank on my 05 is a plastic emblem (not painted) so no issue there , but yeah that would annoy me if the paint was chipping too - The passenger seat on mine is a separate piece and appears more comfortable than this one in the video and mines great because you can take it off and have the whole fender exposed (looks really cool),i put 4 domehead allens in the holes painted to match - I LOVE THIS BIKE AND WILL HOPEFULLY NEVER SELL IT (had it 14 years now)
All of the 1700 cc yamaha are great bikes. Silverado, midnight, etc. Not to mention the inline 4 fjr 1300 and the V4 v max engines they produce.
You forgot their 113 too. The 950 & 1300 are also very good bikes.
My bike goes two into one with a Shorty pipe on it very loud
Own one love it man
Put a fat tire on the back change the handlebars, and lower it . Wow, you got a bad ass bike.
Absolutely right. That's what I did
I love my stock handlebars. I have a 04 warrior. its comfortable as hell for me. I have a Memphis Bullet fairing on mine and it makes touring a whole lot more comfortable. I also have dually pegs on it to help with the wind on the feet. And its amazingly more comfortable. Im also running a V&H exhaust on it.
Where did you order your foot pegs ?
I thought the lean angle was 10 degrees better than every Harley?
@ 5:35, the rusty cable thing mine did not turn that way till it was outside under an "all season" cover. It seemed to cook it in a way
Giving it hate also gives it recognition.
I like the chassis and engine, not into the riding position, though. My buddy had one with a car tire on the back!
Honest opinion, I'm moving from an Sv1000 to a cruiser.
Vtx 1800 or a warrior 1700?
What's the best performance cruiser you'd suggest
Why they stopped producing bikes like this? Really don’t see anything like this on the market for past 5 years…
Needs 6th gear for those longer rides
Bingo! One of my Biggest gripes. All that torque and no 6th. What a waste. Could comfortably run at 2k RPM at 80mph... but no, they had to skimp.
I thought you just sold that bike,,,,good reasons why you don’t like it though. I always thought those stock exhaust looked like they had some extra coffee cans laying around so they just used them,haha
hey, you really have a good neighbour ... with all the videos I have seen ....Oh man, I would be a little piss with the noise. LOL
Lol. I do have some pretty cool neighbors. I think they appreciate that I don't fire my bikes up at 630 every morning to commute to work. 🤙
I own one I have no problem getting my kickstand down maybe need to learn how to ride one better alone how to use the kickstand better
Oh Yamahaa Star Warrior
Your logo's slowly chipping
I have to turn the bike starboard
To get the kickstand tripping
Two thousand nine, it seems passe
But you remain to present day
Oh Yamaha Star Warrior
You're at the core of flipping.
Oh Yamaha Star Warrior
Your pipe's a tin man leg
Tho Yamaha hath engineered
The starter cough and beg
I'm sure your fiiine and very fast
A tribute to An absent past
But Yamaha Star Warrior
The universe is listening.
Im totally into looking on getting one,
Did U pick 1 up? This is a great bike, I've ridden sports tourers, dirt bike but this has been my favourite ride! It's a real powerhouse! This dude is right though, the seat def ain't comfortable past 45 min! #NumbBum!
You'll love it
Damn, I like the bike. The dislikes are all fixable. Think I'm more of a fan of the motor.
Good review - honest and informative. Aesthetically, I'd like to see a set of clip-ons replace the goofy-looking mini-apes, unfortunately, it looks as though they'd bash into the tank..? A shorter rear fender and replacing the 'bazooka' (exhaust) would probably look pretty cool..?
Interesting vid as always, kept me engaged until the end. Now one thing I have to ask concerns your gloves - what are they man ? Do they offer any protection and are they split on both right and left hand ? I'm curious. Anyway, keep up the great work on BOTH your channels :)
I'm definitely due for new gloves. These are what some of your stunt riders wear. Great for feeling the grip/throttle but little to no actual protection. Lol.
That greyish cable cover on the bars is horrible when it fades. Thinking about some black shrink wrap or something for it
i had a black one prior to covid...sold it due to the low 30s mpg i got justs riding around...is this common?
What would be one or two of your favorite bikes to zip around on?
If you don't like the bike send it to me I'll take it I have one all I did was change the seat I ride 3 400 miles a day and it doesn't bother me I'm 6-2
What seat?
Sounds like Nit Noid Whiny complaints, none of that stuff is a deal breaker and mostly just one's own preferences.
I do like your reviews very informative.But I love my warrior...(switched exhaust and handlebars) so I cried a little during your review,bit I'm ok now...😢
Bro, I hate my kickstand on my 2005 warrior!
What a whiner everything that you're complaining about is fixable any motorcycle you buy you have to tweak it to fit you if you don't like the bars buy an aftermarket set or build your own that's what I did stop riding the clutch you'll be complaining the clutch don't last next put a windshield on it as far as soft tires and dual rotors that's the price you had to pay for owning a muscle bike
How is it on vibration? Is the engine rubber-mounted?
i think u love that bike so dearly that u own one. good choice.
That’s my dream bike lol
I wouldn't say the handlebars are anywhere like ape hangers but what do you do if there straighter then you have to seat more forward I like the look of the bike over all better then the new V Max I wish they would have put the new V Max motor in it but Im just not a big V Twin guy I do like the old V Max just wish it would have had a suspension like this Warrior
I have one and I love it. It's bullet proof... fast and sexy :)
Lol. I have one and as you said scraping the exhaust while leaning is frustrating, but the more I hate is the ^%=#:__* kick stand, is just terrible, lol
Beautiful bike tho
Well sell it to me and we'll be friends forever 👍
Yamaha Raider is the power house
Not the same handling or riding position. Raider is more of a relaxed riding style whereas the warrior is more aggressive.
Sound's like your a sport bike fan...lol... maybe you should stick to reviewing them
lean angle is a problem! yes screw what the muffler looks like! sail part is bad too....
5:57 chemical process in making the plastic.... edit cover the plastic with something else home depo has multi color muchos cosas!!!
good video informative what it looks like i could care that is for you yungins....
I love it so much that I had to buy one I paid 3400 for a 2005 can u please tell me if that was a good price
Sounds like a good deal by my standards. 💯👌
Good deal ! Gave 5 for my 03 but it only had 5k miles.
Yea I paid more then that for both of mine they are about 3500 to 4500 depending on year and mods I have seen later model ones original owner 3k miles 9r less for 7 the 07 midnight seems to be a bit more valuable.
I'm picking one up Saturday. 2008 for $2900 -12000 miles
@@MrCamarokid83 that is a steal for an 08 I paid 4gs for my 07 last year and it deff wasn't in perfect condition or anywhere near what my vision of a warrior is. She is much closer to that vision now tho
Yamahas bad for discontinuing !
Hate that you sold it.
Small tanks
That was a great review!
I just don't like the way it looks. It's too wide at the tank. I'm not a fan of wide rear tires on any bike, it looks ugly (to me) and it doesn't handle like a more traditional rear tire.
Yeah, the wide rear tire messes with the handing for sure. But the warrior makes it work. Definitely not a traditional style though.
My Raider had a big back tire and was still, even with the rake, one if the best handling cruisers that I have ever ridden...hands down!
What baffles were in that exhaust?
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Selling it?
Una pregunta,,, es buena moto en general?
Si, es una excelente moto en general. Yo tengo una. Sin fallas.
It's a drag bike
Can confirm. 😁
If you can't get the kickstand down probably shouldn't be riding .IMHO 🤷
Hey I would encourage you to try a Vstrom 1000 if you ever want to try an adventure bike. You'll honestly fall in love once ridden. (wheelie machine) 2014 and up preferred. "Fun factor" is high... Thanks for your work Jon. Big fan.... 👍
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Ok,a hater with a motorcycle crash it mentality,righty K then
In one video do you say it sucks in the other one you love it? Are you bipolar or did I miss something
Can you review a 2020 HD FXST
Yer they suck after about 2h of riding
The wiring is pure aids and not as powerful
as people made out
Sounds like a YamaHarley
Um, no. There are no hardleys that sound like these.
I like them but never owned or rode one . The need drag bars ,bullet fairings , a rap around short rear fender . The rim and tire need to be wider . BAMMMM now it looks like e drag bike. Out of the factory I don't agree with the way it is
un related to video...Jon i have a 2010 v rod do you have an opinion on the best rear tire for it???
I couldn't tell you on the best rear tire. I owned the vrod for a short while but never did research on tire options. Sorry, man!
@@JonsMotoGarage my bad I thought you still had one...hahaha
@@rahowardjr all good!
Not a fan of these cruisers. Worst looking exhaust