"A Proportional Response" Mission In Syria In 1999 | DCS

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  • @arquadia3976
    @arquadia3976 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    You dont hit back with a proportional response...you hit back with total disaster!
    Love the reference boys!

  • @-Hardstyle-
    @-Hardstyle- ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Everyone is taking off and CAP is enjoying playing with his knobs 😂. Grim Reapers just wouldn't be Grim Reapers without CAP's epic humour in his commentary! ❤
    That F-15 crashing after attempting take off through the grass field! Absolutely lost it 😂.
    Another great video!

    • @vicoschangoku609
      @vicoschangoku609 หลายเดือนก่อน

      was expecting the "wow" meme at this very moment (and also when this F-15E shot down point blank his buddy F/A-18 ^^) Absolutely love both the seriousness of missions editions and briefings and the contrast between some stupid flying.. makes GR really unique

  • @robandcheryls
    @robandcheryls ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sunday night beers and Booms, thank you GR! 🇨🇦 Veteran

  • @ldkellandshaw
    @ldkellandshaw ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Without having viewed the video, I assume this in relation to the episode from the West Wing after the Doctors plane is shot down and killed. If so, I approve.

    • @carlousmagus5387
      @carlousmagus5387 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My response wouldn't have been proportional...

    • @jimdraven2432
      @jimdraven2432 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@carlousmagus5387you're not alone in that!

    • @hephaestion12
      @hephaestion12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well one flight is called Bartlett flight....

  • @mavor101
    @mavor101 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is why SEAD is so difficult in real life. You need professional and extremely coordinated teams of people to do it properly and even small mistakes with timing/positioning can result in zero effect.
    It's probably even worse in a sim like this when "smart" scripts are added for the ground AA getting them to either use data link information to keep radars off until absolutely needed, along with **moving** after firing. In real life, attempting to stay alive is also something that hinders ground AA, which is not present here, so they can use extremely dangerous (possibly suicidal) tactics to get missiles off even when HARMs could be danger close.
    People are too used to "SEAD" being just firing off a HARM or two and getting a guaranteed kill from long range due to an idiotic AI not turning off it's radar and/or not moving after firing. It's not like this at all. Not to mention that there are a huge number of short range SAMs and AAA that are able to intercept larger missiles like HARMs as they come in.

    • @0BuLLeT01
      @0BuLLeT01 ปีที่แล้ว

      This. SEAD isn't a stand-alone mission. It should always be attached to a package. This seemed a bit disjointed.

  • @FriedPi-mc5yt
    @FriedPi-mc5yt ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Cap always shows an unusual interest in knobs.
    I’m still waiting for Fly to show up.
    FlyByWire hasn’t been keeping his fans happy with his absence.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I miss fly also :(

    • @CMDRSweeper
      @CMDRSweeper ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We are plotting and scheming to have him shanghaied from his work...
      Better look out for those black vans with the GR logo on them.

    • @FriedPi-mc5yt
      @FriedPi-mc5yt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CMDRSweeper Good!! Either that or make up a van to look like a tower or building and Fly will dive into it. 😂

  • @spanishserval2141
    @spanishserval2141 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man that barcap guy @ 43:26 was supposed to barcap but didn't know how to tws targets and launch on multiple mig21 in the f15, and couldn't visually identify a hornet and killed a member of sead wing... yikes

    • @CMDRSweeper
      @CMDRSweeper ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was like "Surely you MUST have identified that as a F18..." then the missile left the wing and my heart sank.
      Especially knowing it was Bear... He is on the GR's competitive DCS team.

    • @tonelock6963
      @tonelock6963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was Bear killing SpaceChef. Earlier Bear killed Macaboo as well

    • @0BuLLeT01
      @0BuLLeT01 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CMDRSweeper Same reaction here. Even if the Hornet hadn't bothered with it's IFF and Bear hadn't bothered IFF interrogating, that should have been an easy VID. Where was the GCI or AWACS mission commander during all this? I had to go back to check the kill on Macaboo... Wow.

  • @lordjiraiya2068
    @lordjiraiya2068 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would love to see a battle of midway where you combine the most well known ships such as the entire Iowa class and the Yamato class from USA, USB (Britan), Germany, Japan, and the USSR. I'm curious as to see what would've happened with all these ships 'accidently' running into each other .

  • @onefan1249
    @onefan1249 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A few more than some poor janitor working the night shift bought it on this version. (One of the few episodes I remember… and I saw Alison Janney on set!)

  • @christopherjohnson529
    @christopherjohnson529 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cap - just getting around to seeing this one. Really enjoyed the video. Painful losses for the Grim Reapers, but hope you can include Skynet again on occasion in the future. Feels a lot more realistic (and challenging) to watch you all unraveling a defense like this. A whole new set of "problems" you're facing to take it apart. Different from the more common situation we see where everyone's firing off 4 HARMs at max range and then waltzing in later. The revetments for the SAMs also make gunnery and rocket attacks harder. As a long time Grim Reapers watcher, you've all come a long way in your skill and coordination. This could be your next stage of challenge ahead - but understand maybe only once in awhile so GR pilots don't get too frustrated.

  • @johnwycough1955
    @johnwycough1955 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun watch. Surprising outcome.

  • @LIMITLESS_RC
    @LIMITLESS_RC 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really should utilize the air to ground radar with the strike eagle. Probably one of its best features….beyond being the best jet in dcs (along with f16 of course)

  • @michaeliverson1688
    @michaeliverson1688 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm only at 6:54 at the moment, but i have to admit a mild disappointment at Sok not flying a Tomcat,.....

    • @dampsok
      @dampsok ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't worry, I'll always come back to my good kitty. Think of this as... a jovial indiscretion. ;)

  • @icaleinns6233
    @icaleinns6233 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    looked like you needed another SEAD wing, too.

  • @AsianLuke
    @AsianLuke ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the West Wing reference!!!

  • @michaeliverson1688
    @michaeliverson1688 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poor Cap,....6 whole minutes of just tinkering with knobs before he could even taxi to runway

  • @robert-9377
    @robert-9377 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally watched this West Wing episode yesterday

  • @RTS907
    @RTS907 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any battle with F-14s, F-15s and F-16s is a great day !

  • @agamemnonn1
    @agamemnonn1 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:24 What's truly astonishing is this guy thought that was a good idea.

  • @mfreed40k
    @mfreed40k ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Cap, do the first battle of Wake Island if you haven't!

  • @occamraiser
    @occamraiser ปีที่แล้ว

    fascinating tho it was watching cap press every button in his cockpit twice, I skipped most of the first 13 minutes.

  • @colbypupgaming1962
    @colbypupgaming1962 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where were the fighter escorts for the Mudhens?

  • @wesleymoreno1037
    @wesleymoreno1037 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the flaming Clift F 15 C working multiplayer

  • @panzerabwerkanone
    @panzerabwerkanone ปีที่แล้ว

    Well it's clear that "No leave me alone" is not a good SAM evasion strategy?

  • @Evocati-Augusti
    @Evocati-Augusti ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did this really happen? the country had no President, this would have happened a week after President Hafez al-Assad died , I guess leaving the Defence Minister unchecked..

  • @DPRK_Ohio
    @DPRK_Ohio ปีที่แล้ว

    why is it always the syrians who give you so much trouble...

  • @bearcatracing007
    @bearcatracing007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a meat popsicle

  • @imaginarybaron5864
    @imaginarybaron5864 ปีที่แล้ว

    “All is going well” Cap says as the US Air Force is about to incur the worst losses since Vietnam

  • @MrCraptakular
    @MrCraptakular ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first

  • @Trbrigade
    @Trbrigade ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was Times then US didnt afraid of anything, and had some balls.

    • @dexlab7539
      @dexlab7539 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, now US just send billions of weapons for others to die for them 😣

  • @lucykwiatek5159
    @lucykwiatek5159 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was not expecting to see a DCS/West Wing crossover today, but I am NOT complaining.

  • @voidwalker9223
    @voidwalker9223 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    21:15 I’m crying
    “Have you been fired upo- *Wingman burning in giant fireball* OHH Jesus Christ!”!

    • @-Hardstyle-
      @-Hardstyle- ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here!! 😂

    • @RTS907
      @RTS907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who is it? NotJeff

    • @dampsok
      @dampsok ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damp Sock's commander to his wife - "We regret to inform you that your man is dead because he didn't believe his RWR."

    • @-Hardstyle-
      @-Hardstyle- ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dampsok😂😂

    • @-Hardstyle-
      @-Hardstyle- ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@RTS907classic!

  • @Philberton
    @Philberton ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was feeling smug about getting the reference until the group names gave it away! RIP Morris Tolliver.

    • @altPastaTits
      @altPastaTits ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i….don’t get it?

  • @leepatterson5710
    @leepatterson5710 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Clearly there was an issue as Cap's plane showed he didn't emergency jettison his gear.

  • @ForestBlue7
    @ForestBlue7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We’re gonna pilot like it’s Nineteeeeen 99! 🎶🎼🤘🏼🫵🏼👊🏼

  • @0BuLLeT01
    @0BuLLeT01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This one was hard to watch. I hope lots of lessons were learnt. Try attaching your SEAD flights to your Strike packages next time.

  • @stevemorris3924
    @stevemorris3924 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hummm someone has been watching too much Westwing as this is so based on the episode Proportional Response, looked fun!

  • @CanterburySteel
    @CanterburySteel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There's the nasally colonizer back to health ! Hurrah !

  • @rantanplan178
    @rantanplan178 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait - who got retaliated in this mission? xd

  • @hjp201168
    @hjp201168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this a Mission based on the TV programme West Wing?

  • @modelpro72
    @modelpro72 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like you Cap I do like a few knobs to play with. Excellent mission.

  • @gibbo_303
    @gibbo_303 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    god some of the people flying in this mission are so target fixated, that harrier flew right into the SAM

    • @dampsok
      @dampsok ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I blew up next to Cap because I didn't believe my RWR... I thought it was pulling a prank on me... turns out it was right all along...

  • @vicoschangoku609
    @vicoschangoku609 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very tense mission.. feels like I'm watching Flight Of The Intruder.. ;)

  • @aztec0112
    @aztec0112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This whole mission could have been accomplished with TALDS, HARM'S, ALCM's and SLCM'S. Maybe, when the A6 comes out we'll get the ALQ-99 stand off jammer.

  • @gunzelloharris3348
    @gunzelloharris3348 ปีที่แล้ว

    Evaded the missile!!!! But not Terra! LOL ! ;)

  • @coreymoyers
    @coreymoyers ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, the first F-15 to be shot down in combat. #GrimReapers

  • @christopherjohnson529
    @christopherjohnson529 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gorgeous camerawork on this one too BTW.

  • @johnaikema1055
    @johnaikema1055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for f15's to be successful in a contested airspace they need long range munitions. f16's carry less weight in munitions =better in contested airspace.
    f15's are heavy and capable of a heavier loadout =greater punch but reduced maneuverability when fully loaded. sead needs to be taken out regardless.

    • @agamemnonn1
      @agamemnonn1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Incorrect. The F-15E is intended to escort itself deep into enemy territory. You don't dogfight with it and use those two powerful engines to out accelerate anything sent up against you. Remember, the F-15E would have been used to penetrate contested Soviet airspace. And this would have been with Mk82 bombs.

    • @johnaikema1055
      @johnaikema1055 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@agamemnonn1
      not a chance.
      I'm a huge fan of the f15ex...but it must be used correctly or it's more of a tactical hindrance than an asset.
      use the tool right or don't bother opening the toolbox.

  • @stevecooksley
    @stevecooksley ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not first

  • @dace0326
    @dace0326 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love 4Sqn rocking up

  • @outperformancelife3145
    @outperformancelife3145 ปีที่แล้ว

    I honestly dont know where I stand on this attack the US and UK did against Syria. We dont know what was going on between the pilots and Syrian authorities at the time that they shot down the plane do we? If they were arguing and the pilots were refusing to cooperate then I understand why the Syrians would think it would be a proper response with military force but if not then yes 100% I would agree with the 1999 attack on Syria.

  • @aztec0112
    @aztec0112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oof, this looked like old GR.

  • @shirgall
    @shirgall ปีที่แล้ว

    Good old Homs, where there's an interesting oil pipeline terminal on the way Tripoli and Kirkuk, and an oil refinery... Why go after the railway bridges north of the city when that refinery and pipeline terminal is only a couple miles away? Is it because the munitions came to the airbase via rail?

  • @voradfils
    @voradfils ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dead harriers mmh

  • @funkytownjedi
    @funkytownjedi ปีที่แล้ว

    😮🎉

  • @kellyyoung5153
    @kellyyoung5153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hahaha....Bear is such a c*nt. How do you not see that is a Hornet? How's SATAL going Bear?

  • @jonathanmcfarland288
    @jonathanmcfarland288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First!