Ah Tony saves Saturday morning and takes us back to when things were done properly. Can't do anything about taking the weather back to a childhood summer can you Tony? All the best from the Ferrets.
If only I could. Summer of '76, the great drought, would do nicely. I spent every afternoon of the school holidays at the local outdoor pool. It was a shit hole, no filtration system, ice cold, they changed the water about once every three months or so and cleaned it a bit - it was like swimming in a canal complete with amphibious wildlife - but it was great. How I never got typhoid fever or cholera remains a mystery to this day.
my heart sings for that technicolor look, it's so picturesque, so exquisite, there's a certain level of nostalgic beauty in technicolor cinema, Tony I genuinely can't understand why those of my generation don't find these things captivating, I've been exposed to my fair share of modern rubbish (think crazy frog back in the early 2000s when I was a kid and hideous shows like Steven Universe when I was an adolescent) and for that I feel a certain level of shame but even then, even while I was exposed to modern ills, I've always had an enormous affinity for films such as this, films that looked exactly like this and flowed with a much slower and precise pace, it breaks my heart when nearly all of my dear friends are so reluctant to explore cinema of this variety, yet they're up and ready to go to see the latest Deadpool detritus.. I know little of your personal life and rightfully so, since it is really none of mine or anyone's business but should you have friends of a similar age, it must be comforting to know that you all seem to enjoy the same kinds of media, I only have ONE friend that's partially inclined to watch classic cinema, Jordie a man I've deemed my best friend for going on 7 years now but I practically have to beg the motherfucker to watch anything from the 1940s-1960s :/
As I've repeatedly said, your tastes mark you out as unique. Yeah, I have some friends still alive - surprisingly few are, believe it or not - who share the same tastes in movies and music. In fact we're having a get together next weekend as my daughter is getting married. I know I'm old but that pending event makes me feel even older. And even more financially compromised than usual. Still, when it comes to your kids, what can you do. And anyway, without them who would sign the section papers and put me in a care home eventually. Got to think of the future. Cheers, Streed.
100% agree with your sentiments regarding the TV series, although I can't help feeling bitter about it. The Daleks were right on the money with identifying Bedfordshire as the best spot to access the centre of the earth. Being from there myself, I would say Luton is definitely the place I would choose if earth needed an enema 😆
Yeah, the show has gone the way of most things these days. Remains to be seen how much longer it can continue. Not much, I imagine. Thanks for commenting, Damo. T.
Great review, Tony. Ah yes, Props Pete. He was endearing and always gave his best in any film in which he was involved. I'm not the biggest Dr who fan but like you, saw the second film in the cinema in the early 70s as a young kid and loved it. I still have a letter from Peter Cushing, thanking me for writing to him about his autobiography in the late 1980s. A gentleman.
He was of a time whereby actors had real personalities and characters. His love of props was an endearing and humanising quirk I always felt. And as you say, a gentleman. Thanks, mjd. T.
Ah, a Saturday morning pictures staple back in the day. I used to pay a shilling to watch a cartoon, The Three Stooges, Flash Gordon and then the main film. It was normally a Children´s Film Foundation effort but occassionally they´d push the boat out with Dr.Who, Godzilla or Confessions of a Window Cleaner. Oh no wait, that was another memory. Great stuff Tony!
Those Confessions films were less funny Carry Ons with full frontal nudity and simulated sex and although I can sort of glimpse their appeal I'll never fully understand why they were so popular. My own "confession" is that I used to go and see them. But then, I used to go and see everything. Cheers, Moose. T.
@@tonybush555 They were absolutely terrible Tony but fascinating in their own way. That whole decade or so of British sex ´comedies´ is quite bizarre because they were hugely popular. However, would I rather watch Eskimo Nell over Alien Romulus? Absolutely !
I didn’t really watch Doctor Who regularly as a kid ( as I was a bit too young to catch Tom Baker, so it was a bit of a downward slide in the actors playing him ) But I remember being a happy little 8 year old when the BBC fired up these movies. Lucky for me it seemed to be about 5 times a year
Yeah - the BBC did show them during the mid 1980s(just at the beginning of Colin Baker's tenure), and I think they were on early Saturday mornings. I now get that they are based upon William Hartnell's first two Dalek stories. They're okay - and kind of compliment the TV series in a way. As aside - I heard that the unmade third film was due to get made sometime in the 1990s, with Michael Sheard(Mr. Bronson from Grange Hill - and appeared in several Dr. Who stories) as The Doctor. I think there's one of his last interviews up on YT somewhere with him discussing it.
michael sheard may seem an odd choice for the doctor.he is normally cast in grim forbidding roles with a very glum face.however he had a very comic side to him rarely seen.he is in fact the only reason for watching escape from athena .despite its star studded cast roger moore elliot gould stephanie powers telly savalas etc etc it truly awful.michael steals the picture as an incredibly stupid and overenthusiastic german sgt .its a little gem of a performance and wildly funny. he may have been a brilliant doctor.
Great stuff Tony. I was seven when Doctor Who first aired and remember it well. I saw both these films at the cinema and though I enjoyed them, I always felt that the TV Doctor was the real thing. At the time the Daleks became something of a small cultural phenomenon with toys and for a time a Christmas annual. The latter had great input from Terry Nation and went into considerable detail about how Dalek society was structured and the extent of their empire. As you say those were the days, so unlike the failed woke cluster f**k Russel T Davies has created.
Well, as Disney have just cancelled that Acolyte travesty of theirs it does give one pause to consider if they've started cleaning house. I mean, the ratings for the current incarnation of DW are said to be the lowest in the history of the series. Considering the dark times it went through in the past, that's some achievement. T.
Ah a period before Dr who became Cruising in space/time. I like you heavily biased due to cushings involvement. As to the flemying DW movies they very much of the time, and place. Much prefer the far better sequel and tom the copper storyline and involvement. Great review as usual T.
It comes back to bite, though. There's a Disney show, The Acolyte, that has been the source of some controversy. It's a Star Wars spinoff, apparently a showcase for inclusivity, intersectionalism, wokery, sexual politics and so forth I don't know the details because it doesn't interest me so I'm just quoting stuff I've heard. It's failed so badly, was so lacking in creative quality and cost so much that Disney have cancelled it and even withdrawn the merchandise associated with it. Like they want to forget it ever happened. Now the "creatives" who are responsible for it are blaming what they claim are a minority of Star Wars fans, "toxic fandom" whatever that is, who are accused of being white, male, misogynists. This is after they - allegedly - claimed the show wasn't for these people anyway, but for a different, better audience they imagined existed out there somewhere. Well, that audience, the target audience, didn't watch or support it either. I didn't know that fans had the power to cancel a global show, especially as the toxic ones are felt to be a small minority. How does that work? Alienate traditional audiences at your peril, then. Ironically, those "creatives" who make shows like The Acolyte and Dr Who are the types who routinely support and believe in cancel culture for someone or something that causes offense or hurts the feelings of others. You live by it, you die by it. There are maybe lessons to be learned. I think one of the main reasons these shows bite the dust is simplicity itself. They are not very good.
@@tonybush555 reminds me of how dictators often fall by means of their own actions. karma is a very real thing T. the rainbow gestapo is falling as we type brother. this woke madness won't last forever, one day we'll look back on this as nothing but a hideous nightmare, never to be repeated again. I hope to my respective god that this ends soon.
@@AbrasiousProductions I wouldn't be so optimistic. The driving force behind any social trend or movement is permanent and easily manipulated. We will get a modified or different form of the old divide and rule or over-react, etc. All parts of the political spectrum engage in this.
I'm quite the fan of the classic series but I've never gotten around to seeing the film adaptations of the first two Dalek serials, I'm very curious to see how they compare to the television versions, call me grotesquely optimistic but seeing as Peter Cushing stars in this and it was made during a time when cinematic integrity was alive, well and flourishing, I've got hopes as high as I was a few days ago :)
I feel the same way about what they've done to the fraggle rock reboot, the real show gracefully concluded in 1987, in my eyes, the new fraggle rock doesn't exist, it's not fraggle rock, the same way the new doctor who is not doctor who.
I can't claim to have much knowledge of or interest in Fraggle Rock, but like all shows or media people hold in esteem, when it's over it should be left to lie. Raping the memories of the fans for a quick buck or to push some political/social agenda is sacrilege. There's no respect.
@@tonybush555 well T. I think it's safe to say that you can trust my taste in media after all this time and allow me to tell you, the original fraggle rock, the real fraggle rock is a beautifully poignant show about togetherness, peace and understanding one another, it's quite dramatic and well written for a puppet show as well, there's an entire episode from Season 1 called "Marooned" about the fragility of mortality when Boober & Red are trapped in a cave-in and ponder in quite literal terms "what it's like to die" I'm not ashamed to admit, that episode always puts a tear to my eye, you'd be hard pressed to find a modern show with the same poignancy, weight and creativity that fraggle rock had, it's a show that hardly ages, I guarantee that even you, at your age could enjoy it😊
I couldn't agree more - men spend much of their later lives attempting to avoid the dread fate of 'fully growing up''. An ambition very much achieved in my case. I also share your love of these two old films of course - however being a perverse kind of kid I certainly never wanted Roy Castle to outwit the DALEKS because I always hoped those manicly evil little pepper pots would eventually win somehow. I also often rooted for the Germans in war films too you may not be all that surprised to hear - ambitions very much not achieved. As for the constantly struggling football team I support ... all character forming I suppose.
I was never much of a fan of the Dalek movies. The movies are directed towards kids, and therefore much of the original storyline was softened significantly. The Daleks are just not the threat they are in the series, and they come across as even stupider than the humans. People whine that the movies are simply not Doctor Who since the Doctor is not an alien as he is in the series. But when the movies came out, they had not fully established that the Doctor WAS an alien with two hearts. As far as anyone knew, the Doctor was a human being who happened to have a time machine. You can't condemn the movies for being something it wasn't really intended to be. Now, I was able to see the movies before I ever saw any episodes from the Hartnell era, and back then, I thought Cushing's "Dr Who" was a complete imbecile. Watching the movies AFTER becoming more familiar with the Hartnell era, I see Cushing's interpretation as more manipulative than I first thought he was, but still an imbecile. At times in fact, his Dr Who appeared somewhat senile. The real problem with Cushing's characterization is that we are supposed to feel connected to Dr Who - the kind-hearted grandfather - but that's hard when he acts so selfishly. The movies make Dr Who more self-absorbed than kind-hearted, and I didn't like that disconnect. They don't change what Dr Who does in the movies, which interferes with the child-friendly approach. I just hated Dr Who as a character. Also, Susan is played in the movie by Roberta Tovey, who is far younger than Carole Ann Ford in the series (again, the movies were intended for a child audience), but I actually preferred Tovey's interpretation over Ford's. That's not Ford's fault since they made the decision early on to downplay the intelligent, off-putting character she started with in favor of making her the first of far too many companions who were there to look good and scream on cue when the monster showed up. She spent much of the original Dalek storyline being terrified and kinda useless. Understandably, Ford wasn't happy, and she left the show after one series. Tovey was allowed to be the stronger, hyper-intelligent character that Ford was not, and she was one of the few things I liked about the Dalek movies. In fact, the relationship between Cushing and Tovey was the best part of the two films - the other characters are so utterly forgettable, especially the Thals and the Daleks. You do get Bernard Cribbens (Wilf on NuWho) in the second movie, but that's not enough. In any case, by the time the movies came out, they had already greatly softened the First Doctor's harsher edges, but Hartnell's version was still pretty nasty and never really became as senile as Cushing's Dr Who. As a result, Hartnell was more the antihero than any other incarnation of the Doctor other than the Sixth and maybe the Seventh. Which made Hartnell's Doctor a far more interesting character than Cushing's Dr Who could ever be. In the end, I feel the movies simply don't work AS Doctor Who, and are unwatchable otherwise.
Even though I am more than a bit of scifi/horror anglophile I've never gotten into Dr. Who. I've given a chance to many different Doctors but no, not my thing. I guess it is partly due "you had to be there" effect. Quatermass is another thing. I adore Nigel Kneale's writing and even love Brian Donlevy's no nonsense, bull in a china shop portrayal of the character in the first two Hammer adaptations - which were Quatermass's I saw.
There will be a review of Quatermass And The Pit in the near future, the only one of Hammer's trilogy actually scripted by Kneale. Like you, I'm a fan of his writing. Thanks for commenting. T.
@@tonybush555 Didn't he also wrote the screenplay for Quatermass II - just to make some money of the film version since BBC owned the story and character rights and Kneale didn't make a penny out of the first Hammer flick which was scripted by someone else?
@@karppinen My understanding is that because Kneale complained - justifiably - about the approach the BBC took to flogging off his work and character, as a token gesture he was allowed to write a first draft of the screenplay for the Quatermass II movie. Director Val Guest then penned several complete rewrites. However, when it came to Quatermass and the Pit film Kneale was the only credited author. But you are correct, he got a screen writing credit for QM2.
@@tonybush555Since Quatermass and the Pit was most "highbrow" and slow burn of the Quatermass stories (to me Quatermass Conclusion doesn't exist) I don't think Guest's gritty, in your face documentary style approach would have worked. Thus Kneale and Roy Ward Baker (who knew how to give a bang for a buck, A Night to Remember wasn't exactly budgeted like a Hollywood epic) were right for The Pit film.
An 'Alein: Romulus' trailer played before your review, Tony. Here's something completely random to consider. Changing the casting of the Connery Bond films....so that Adolfo Celi doesn't appear until......Bond is caught trying to board the Spectre spaceship.....and comes face to face with Celi's Blofeld. I think Celi could have played the surface level sophistication, the inner brutishness, the sharp intelligence and the amused reaction to Bond's desperate attempt to sabotage Blofeld's latest scheme. So, do you think this is credible casting, or if Celi's absence from 'Thunderball' would be a detriment to that film? And I mean Celi as Blofeld without that voice dubbing from the previous film.
Did it? I don't know what's worse - getting restricted ratings and demonitised or uploading videos that end up promoting claptrap like Alien: Romulus. A film so dumb it apparently ignores the detonation and destruction of the Nostromo - so I've heard. THERE IS NO RESPECT! I mean that ship got obliterated, surely. So, replacing Donald Pleasence/Blofeld with Adolfo Celi/Largo? I was never that much of a fan of Pleasence as Blofeld - well, I say never, but as a kid the scarred monster look was more appealing. Older me, not so much. My favourite was Savalas in OHMSS - a great Bond villain. So, yes, I'm gonna say I could see it working very well. But who would you cast as Largo in his place? How about Christopher Lee? But then, who'd play Scaramanga? Middle-aged Al Pacino would have been good, but he was too young at the time. Now looked what you've started, David.
@@tonybush555 The Company knows which planet the warning message was sent from. Why they need the alien that Ripley blasts out of the shuttle is beyond me for multiple reasons. Why are there three separate detonations of the Nostromo & refinery? How does the alien survive in space for 10 years? Re-casting Largo in 'Thunderball'. Well, how about......Robert Shaw.....which requires a new Red Grant.....Grant being Irish.....so Richard Harris?
I wouldn't say I love these films, but I'll happily watch them as 'niche' viewing. Your opening gambit, Tony, probably says everything about modern Doctor Who in relation to me, it's not for me. in fact, I haven't seen an episode since Nicola Bryant was ousted...shallow fucker that I am!
No, I get where you're coming from with Nicola Bryant/Peri. Most people know when something is no longer for them, for whatever reasons, and I don't see why anyone would have a problem with anyone opting out, making an informed choice. It's a curious situation with the current bunch of theys, thems, thats and those. There's an audience they say they don't want (me, for instance) but then they get all shirty and narked when that audience quite happily takes them at their word and moves on. It's confusing. It's like not being invited to a party, in fact told to steer clear by a hostile host, then the host getting all angry and miffed because you didn't go. It's like the schizophrenia double-bind theory. Interesting times indeed.
@@tonybush555 It's rather summed up by this current 'Acolyte' situation, and its cancellation after 1 series. I know little of the show, but I know Disney Star Wars have told certain, ahem, categories of people, because they do like categorizing people, to stay away as its not for you, yet blame those same people because no-one is watching???? Whereas the reality remains that the so-called creatives making these shows either have no idea how to make something with appeal to a target audience, or simply that the audience that they seek does not actually exist.
@@leetaylor3099 I think the problem is they make shows for themselves, that embrace their politics, their beliefs, their worldview, their doctrine. Which is fine, but it needs to be something original rather than taking existing franchises and trying to bend them into a shape that pleases them. It's like taking Dirty Harry and turning it into an eco-warrior vehicle about policing the illegal use of fossil fuels. That's a different theme and would better fit a different character. I can just see Harry's story arc now, though. He's known as Dirty Harry in the beginning because he has a wood burner, oil-fired central heating and a diesel powered 4x4, but by the end he's all solar panels and wind-turbines driving a Hybrid Toyota Yaris. Guess what they call him then? These people don't feel any responsibility to a fan base or a real audience only to themselves and the audience they imagine in their heads. Seems even the imaginary audience didn't like The Acolyte. And really, where did they think that was going to lead? Considering Disney now own and bankroll Dr Who Russell T Davis and co should maybe start to think on it a little. Cheers, Lee. T.
Ah Tony saves Saturday morning and takes us back to when things were done properly. Can't do anything about taking the weather back to a childhood summer can you Tony?
All the best from the Ferrets.
If only I could. Summer of '76, the great drought, would do nicely. I spent every afternoon of the school holidays at the local outdoor pool. It was a shit hole, no filtration system, ice cold, they changed the water about once every three months or so and cleaned it a bit - it was like swimming in a canal complete with amphibious wildlife - but it was great. How I never got typhoid fever or cholera remains a mystery to this day.
The Dr Who films showed up regularly on C4 in the 90s, and I enjoyed them.
Complimentary offshoots of the TV series I always felt. And I'd watch a bowl of egg-fried rice if Peter Cushing was in it.
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@@MrRich1810 Many grateful thanks for your kind generosity Rich. T.
Loved the old Doc Who mate. Cheers.
Thank you, Wayne. T.
@@tonybush555 Thank you
my heart sings for that technicolor look, it's so picturesque, so exquisite, there's a certain level of nostalgic beauty in technicolor cinema, Tony I genuinely can't understand why those of my generation don't find these things captivating, I've been exposed to my fair share of modern rubbish (think crazy frog back in the early 2000s when I was a kid and hideous shows like Steven Universe when I was an adolescent) and for that I feel a certain level of shame but even then, even while I was exposed to modern ills, I've always had an enormous affinity for films such as this, films that looked exactly like this and flowed with a much slower and precise pace, it breaks my heart when nearly all of my dear friends are so reluctant to explore cinema of this variety, yet they're up and ready to go to see the latest Deadpool detritus.. I know little of your personal life and rightfully so, since it is really none of mine or anyone's business but should you have friends of a similar age, it must be comforting to know that you all seem to enjoy the same kinds of media, I only have ONE friend that's partially inclined to watch classic cinema, Jordie a man I've deemed my best friend for going on 7 years now but I practically have to beg the motherfucker to watch anything from the 1940s-1960s :/
As I've repeatedly said, your tastes mark you out as unique. Yeah, I have some friends still alive - surprisingly few are, believe it or not - who share the same tastes in movies and music. In fact we're having a get together next weekend as my daughter is getting married. I know I'm old but that pending event makes me feel even older. And even more financially compromised than usual. Still, when it comes to your kids, what can you do. And anyway, without them who would sign the section papers and put me in a care home eventually. Got to think of the future. Cheers, Streed.
@@tonybush555 wow! congratulations to her! I hope she has a lovely wedding❣
100% agree with your sentiments regarding the TV series, although I can't help feeling bitter about it. The Daleks were right on the money with identifying Bedfordshire as the best spot to access the centre of the earth. Being from there myself, I would say Luton is definitely the place I would choose if earth needed an enema 😆
Yeah, the show has gone the way of most things these days. Remains to be seen how much longer it can continue. Not much, I imagine. Thanks for commenting, Damo. T.
Great review, Tony. Ah yes, Props Pete. He was endearing and always gave his best in any film in which he was involved. I'm not the biggest Dr who fan but like you, saw the second film in the cinema in the early 70s as a young kid and loved it. I still have a letter from Peter Cushing, thanking me for writing to him about his autobiography in the late 1980s. A gentleman.
He was of a time whereby actors had real personalities and characters. His love of props was an endearing and humanising quirk I always felt. And as you say, a gentleman. Thanks, mjd. T.
Ah, a Saturday morning pictures staple back in the day. I used to pay a shilling to watch a cartoon, The Three Stooges, Flash Gordon and then the main film. It was normally a Children´s Film Foundation effort but occassionally they´d push the boat out with Dr.Who, Godzilla or Confessions of a Window Cleaner. Oh no wait, that was another memory. Great stuff Tony!
Those Confessions films were less funny Carry Ons with full frontal nudity and simulated sex and although I can sort of glimpse their appeal I'll never fully understand why they were so popular. My own "confession" is that I used to go and see them. But then, I used to go and see everything. Cheers, Moose. T.
@@tonybush555 They were absolutely terrible Tony but fascinating in their own way. That whole decade or so of British sex ´comedies´ is quite bizarre because they were hugely popular. However, would I rather watch Eskimo Nell over Alien Romulus? Absolutely !
I didn’t really watch Doctor Who regularly as a kid ( as I was a bit too young to catch Tom Baker, so it was a bit of a downward slide in the actors playing him )
But I remember being a happy little 8 year old when the BBC fired up these movies. Lucky for me it seemed to be about 5 times a year
Yeah, they did seem to do the rounds a fair bit. Thanks, Alan. T.
Another brilliant and incisive review Tony. Keep them coming
Thank you, Theodore. Naturally, there will be more. T.
Yeah - the BBC did show them during the mid 1980s(just at the beginning of Colin Baker's tenure), and I think they were on early Saturday mornings. I now get that they are based upon William Hartnell's first two Dalek stories. They're okay - and kind of compliment the TV series in a way.
As aside - I heard that the unmade third film was due to get made sometime in the 1990s, with Michael Sheard(Mr. Bronson from Grange Hill - and appeared in several Dr. Who stories) as The Doctor. I think there's one of his last interviews up on YT somewhere with him discussing it.
many thanks for commenting. Appreciated. T.
michael sheard may seem an odd choice for the doctor.he is normally cast in grim forbidding roles with a very glum face.however he had a very comic side to him rarely seen.he is in fact the only reason for watching escape from athena .despite its star studded cast roger moore elliot gould stephanie powers telly savalas etc etc it truly awful.michael steals the picture as an incredibly stupid and overenthusiastic german sgt .its a little gem of a performance and wildly funny. he may have been a brilliant doctor.
Great stuff Tony. I was seven when Doctor Who first aired and remember it well. I saw both these films at the cinema and though I enjoyed them, I always felt that the TV Doctor was the real thing. At the time the Daleks became something of a small cultural phenomenon with toys and for a time a Christmas annual. The latter had great input from Terry Nation and went into considerable detail about how Dalek society was structured and the extent of their empire. As you say those were the days, so unlike the failed woke cluster f**k Russel T Davies has created.
Well, as Disney have just cancelled that Acolyte travesty of theirs it does give one pause to consider if they've started cleaning house. I mean, the ratings for the current incarnation of DW are said to be the lowest in the history of the series. Considering the dark times it went through in the past, that's some achievement. T.
Ah a period before Dr who became Cruising in space/time.
I like you heavily biased due to cushings involvement.
As to the flemying DW movies they very much of the time, and place. Much prefer the far better sequel and tom the copper storyline and involvement.
Great review as usual T.
And great commenting which is much appreciated. Thanks, Graeme. T.
"touch grass" said by the very same people who continually engage in theatrical politics, useless drama and unnecessary spite towards one another...
It comes back to bite, though. There's a Disney show, The Acolyte, that has been the source of some controversy. It's a Star Wars spinoff, apparently a showcase for inclusivity, intersectionalism, wokery, sexual politics and so forth I don't know the details because it doesn't interest me so I'm just quoting stuff I've heard. It's failed so badly, was so lacking in creative quality and cost so much that Disney have cancelled it and even withdrawn the merchandise associated with it. Like they want to forget it ever happened. Now the "creatives" who are responsible for it are blaming what they claim are a minority of Star Wars fans, "toxic fandom" whatever that is, who are accused of being white, male, misogynists. This is after they - allegedly - claimed the show wasn't for these people anyway, but for a different, better audience they imagined existed out there somewhere. Well, that audience, the target audience, didn't watch or support it either. I didn't know that fans had the power to cancel a global show, especially as the toxic ones are felt to be a small minority. How does that work? Alienate traditional audiences at your peril, then. Ironically, those "creatives" who make shows like The Acolyte and Dr Who are the types who routinely support and believe in cancel culture for someone or something that causes offense or hurts the feelings of others. You live by it, you die by it. There are maybe lessons to be learned. I think one of the main reasons these shows bite the dust is simplicity itself. They are not very good.
@@tonybush555 reminds me of how dictators often fall by means of their own actions. karma is a very real thing T. the rainbow gestapo is falling as we type brother. this woke madness won't last forever, one day we'll look back on this as nothing but a hideous nightmare, never to be repeated again. I hope to my respective god that this ends soon.
@@AbrasiousProductions Amen to that.
@@AbrasiousProductions I wouldn't be so optimistic. The driving force behind any social trend or movement is permanent and easily manipulated. We will get a modified or different form of the old divide and rule or over-react, etc. All parts of the political spectrum engage in this.
My favourite other, not the TV series, scenes with Darleks was in a Spike Milligan show. Q8, 7? Hilarious. "Put him in the curry".
Milligan's Q show was a riot. And the man himself was a genius. Don't get that combination of raw talent and disturbed eccentricity anymore. T.
I'm quite the fan of the classic series but I've never gotten around to seeing the film adaptations of the first two Dalek serials, I'm very curious to see how they compare to the television versions, call me grotesquely optimistic but seeing as Peter Cushing stars in this and it was made during a time when cinematic integrity was alive, well and flourishing, I've got hopes as high as I was a few days ago :)
I feel the same way about what they've done to the fraggle rock reboot, the real show gracefully concluded in 1987, in my eyes, the new fraggle rock doesn't exist, it's not fraggle rock, the same way the new doctor who is not doctor who.
I can't claim to have much knowledge of or interest in Fraggle Rock, but like all shows or media people hold in esteem, when it's over it should be left to lie. Raping the memories of the fans for a quick buck or to push some political/social agenda is sacrilege. There's no respect.
@@tonybush555 well T. I think it's safe to say that you can trust my taste in media after all this time and allow me to tell you, the original fraggle rock, the real fraggle rock is a beautifully poignant show about togetherness, peace and understanding one another, it's quite dramatic and well written for a puppet show as well, there's an entire episode from Season 1 called "Marooned" about the fragility of mortality when Boober & Red are trapped in a cave-in and ponder in quite literal terms "what it's like to die" I'm not ashamed to admit, that episode always puts a tear to my eye, you'd be hard pressed to find a modern show with the same poignancy, weight and creativity that fraggle rock had, it's a show that hardly ages, I guarantee that even you, at your age could enjoy it😊
@@AbrasiousProductions Keep an open mind, I always say. One day I might get around to giving it a shot. T.
I couldn't agree more - men spend much of their later lives attempting to avoid the dread fate of 'fully growing up''. An ambition very much achieved in my case. I also share your love of these two old films of course - however being a perverse kind of kid I certainly never wanted Roy Castle to outwit the DALEKS because I always hoped those manicly evil little pepper pots would eventually win somehow. I also often rooted for the Germans in war films too you may not be all that surprised to hear - ambitions very much not achieved.
As for the constantly struggling football team I support ... all character forming I suppose.
No judgement from me, Gary. Thanks for commenting. T.
I was never much of a fan of the Dalek movies. The movies are directed towards kids, and therefore much of the original storyline was softened significantly. The Daleks are just not the threat they are in the series, and they come across as even stupider than the humans.
People whine that the movies are simply not Doctor Who since the Doctor is not an alien as he is in the series. But when the movies came out, they had not fully established that the Doctor WAS an alien with two hearts. As far as anyone knew, the Doctor was a human being who happened to have a time machine. You can't condemn the movies for being something it wasn't really intended to be.
Now, I was able to see the movies before I ever saw any episodes from the Hartnell era, and back then, I thought Cushing's "Dr Who" was a complete imbecile. Watching the movies AFTER becoming more familiar with the Hartnell era, I see Cushing's interpretation as more manipulative than I first thought he was, but still an imbecile. At times in fact, his Dr Who appeared somewhat senile. The real problem with Cushing's characterization is that we are supposed to feel connected to Dr Who - the kind-hearted grandfather - but that's hard when he acts so selfishly. The movies make Dr Who more self-absorbed than kind-hearted, and I didn't like that disconnect. They don't change what Dr Who does in the movies, which interferes with the child-friendly approach. I just hated Dr Who as a character.
Also, Susan is played in the movie by Roberta Tovey, who is far younger than Carole Ann Ford in the series (again, the movies were intended for a child audience), but I actually preferred Tovey's interpretation over Ford's. That's not Ford's fault since they made the decision early on to downplay the intelligent, off-putting character she started with in favor of making her the first of far too many companions who were there to look good and scream on cue when the monster showed up. She spent much of the original Dalek storyline being terrified and kinda useless. Understandably, Ford wasn't happy, and she left the show after one series. Tovey was allowed to be the stronger, hyper-intelligent character that Ford was not, and she was one of the few things I liked about the Dalek movies. In fact, the relationship between Cushing and Tovey was the best part of the two films - the other characters are so utterly forgettable, especially the Thals and the Daleks. You do get Bernard Cribbens (Wilf on NuWho) in the second movie, but that's not enough.
In any case, by the time the movies came out, they had already greatly softened the First Doctor's harsher edges, but Hartnell's version was still pretty nasty and never really became as senile as Cushing's Dr Who. As a result, Hartnell was more the antihero than any other incarnation of the Doctor other than the Sixth and maybe the Seventh. Which made Hartnell's Doctor a far more interesting character than Cushing's Dr Who could ever be. In the end, I feel the movies simply don't work AS Doctor Who, and are unwatchable otherwise.
That's one way of putting it. Interesting read. Thanks for commenting. Appreciated. T.
Even though I am more than a bit of scifi/horror anglophile I've never gotten into Dr. Who. I've given a chance to many different Doctors but no, not my thing. I guess it is partly due "you had to be there" effect.
Quatermass is another thing. I adore Nigel Kneale's writing and even love Brian Donlevy's no nonsense, bull in a china shop portrayal of the character in the first two Hammer adaptations - which were Quatermass's I saw.
There will be a review of Quatermass And The Pit in the near future, the only one of Hammer's trilogy actually scripted by Kneale. Like you, I'm a fan of his writing. Thanks for commenting. T.
@@tonybush555 Didn't he also wrote the screenplay for Quatermass II - just to make some money of the film version since BBC owned the story and character rights and Kneale didn't make a penny out of the first Hammer flick which was scripted by someone else?
@@karppinen My understanding is that because Kneale complained - justifiably - about the approach the BBC took to flogging off his work and character, as a token gesture he was allowed to write a first draft of the screenplay for the Quatermass II movie. Director Val Guest then penned several complete rewrites. However, when it came to Quatermass and the Pit film Kneale was the only credited author. But you are correct, he got a screen writing credit for QM2.
@@tonybush555Since Quatermass and the Pit was most "highbrow" and slow burn of the Quatermass stories (to me Quatermass Conclusion doesn't exist) I don't think Guest's gritty, in your face documentary style approach would have worked. Thus Kneale and Roy Ward Baker (who knew how to give a bang for a buck, A Night to Remember wasn't exactly budgeted like a Hollywood epic) were right for The Pit film.
An 'Alein: Romulus' trailer played before your review, Tony. Here's something completely random to consider. Changing the casting of the Connery Bond films....so that Adolfo Celi doesn't appear until......Bond is caught trying to board the Spectre spaceship.....and comes face to face with Celi's Blofeld. I think Celi could have played the surface level sophistication, the inner brutishness, the sharp intelligence and the amused reaction to Bond's desperate attempt to sabotage Blofeld's latest scheme. So, do you think this is credible casting, or if Celi's absence from 'Thunderball' would be a detriment to that film? And I mean Celi as Blofeld without that voice dubbing from the previous film.
Did it? I don't know what's worse - getting restricted ratings and demonitised or uploading videos that end up promoting claptrap like Alien: Romulus. A film so dumb it apparently ignores the detonation and destruction of the Nostromo - so I've heard. THERE IS NO RESPECT! I mean that ship got obliterated, surely.
So, replacing Donald Pleasence/Blofeld with Adolfo Celi/Largo? I was never that much of a fan of Pleasence as Blofeld - well, I say never, but as a kid the scarred monster look was more appealing. Older me, not so much. My favourite was Savalas in OHMSS - a great Bond villain. So, yes, I'm gonna say I could see it working very well. But who would you cast as Largo in his place? How about Christopher Lee? But then, who'd play Scaramanga? Middle-aged Al Pacino would have been good, but he was too young at the time. Now looked what you've started, David.
@@tonybush555 The Company knows which planet the warning message was sent from. Why they need the alien that Ripley blasts out of the shuttle is beyond me for multiple reasons. Why are there three separate detonations of the Nostromo & refinery? How does the alien survive in space for 10 years? Re-casting Largo in 'Thunderball'. Well, how about......Robert Shaw.....which requires a new Red Grant.....Grant being Irish.....so Richard Harris?
I wouldn't say I love these films, but I'll happily watch them as 'niche' viewing. Your opening gambit, Tony, probably says everything about modern Doctor Who in relation to me, it's not for me. in fact, I haven't seen an episode since Nicola Bryant was ousted...shallow fucker that I am!
No, I get where you're coming from with Nicola Bryant/Peri. Most people know when something is no longer for them, for whatever reasons, and I don't see why anyone would have a problem with anyone opting out, making an informed choice. It's a curious situation with the current bunch of theys, thems, thats and those. There's an audience they say they don't want (me, for instance) but then they get all shirty and narked when that audience quite happily takes them at their word and moves on. It's confusing. It's like not being invited to a party, in fact told to steer clear by a hostile host, then the host getting all angry and miffed because you didn't go. It's like the schizophrenia double-bind theory. Interesting times indeed.
@@tonybush555 It's rather summed up by this current 'Acolyte' situation, and its cancellation after 1 series. I know little of the show, but I know Disney Star Wars have told certain, ahem, categories of people, because they do like categorizing people, to stay away as its not for you, yet blame those same people because no-one is watching???? Whereas the reality remains that the so-called creatives making these shows either have no idea how to make something with appeal to a target audience, or simply that the audience that they seek does not actually exist.
@@leetaylor3099 I think the problem is they make shows for themselves, that embrace their politics, their beliefs, their worldview, their doctrine. Which is fine, but it needs to be something original rather than taking existing franchises and trying to bend them into a shape that pleases them. It's like taking Dirty Harry and turning it into an eco-warrior vehicle about policing the illegal use of fossil fuels. That's a different theme and would better fit a different character. I can just see Harry's story arc now, though. He's known as Dirty Harry in the beginning because he has a wood burner, oil-fired central heating and a diesel powered 4x4, but by the end he's all solar panels and wind-turbines driving a Hybrid Toyota Yaris. Guess what they call him then? These people don't feel any responsibility to a fan base or a real audience only to themselves and the audience they imagine in their heads. Seems even the imaginary audience didn't like The Acolyte. And really, where did they think that was going to lead? Considering Disney now own and bankroll Dr Who Russell T Davis and co should maybe start to think on it a little. Cheers, Lee. T.
This was propper not the gay version u get today loved these films
Many thanks, Gary. T.
the thals looks like poofters😂
Somewhat camp, yes.
I think they were inspired by the Eloi in George Pal's 'The Time Machine'.
@@CaminoAir I think you're right, I should rewatch The Time Machine (1960) I remember really liking it when I was 12
Cinema Snob voice: "Harsh!"
@@vitorafmonteiro it's alright, I'm a fag and I call myself much worse things than a poof.