2024 Verge TS Pro Review - First Impressions of a Scandinavian Electric Bike
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- The latest electric motorcycle on the scene comes with some unique features and interesting tech - but they come at a cost. The Verge TS Pro sets itself apart with its spokeless rim motor, but is that really enough? Verge gave Road Test Editor Troy Siahaan two hours with the bike to get his initial thoughts. Two hours isn't nearly enough time to learn everything about the bike, but here are some first impressions.
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What I want, is a modern, electric sports touring. Every electric bike is just too tiny.
Energica Experia.
Del Mar?
I swear as of right now there are two categories of Electric Motorcycles...
Category 1 - "Hey we've got this reasonably affordable bike for under $8,000 that has all of these nice little tech features... But the max range is about 50 miles on a full flat surface with no wind and the rider needs to be 150lbs maximum AND we're a startup company so hopefully we won't disappear one day randomly and you're left stranded with no service or support.
Category 2 - "We've totally reinvented the idea of the Electric Motorcycle. The range pushes into the 150 miles and beyond, the system is sleek as hell, super quiet, super powerful.... On and it starts at the price of $29,900 for the base model and goes over $50,000 for fully upgraded.... Oh and we are also a startup company so hopefully we won't disappear one day randomly and you're left stranded with no service or support."
I'm continually STUNNED by how so. many companies seem to think SO many people have this crazy amount of disposable income to spend on things... My rent for a studio apartment is $1,400 alone, not including food, fuel, electricity, internet and ANY other problems that may come my way. I literally can NEVER afford something like this without risking pure and total financial gambling.... On the Verge official site it talks about financing and it states, and I quote, "we are negotiating with one of the world’s leading consumer finance enterprises to offer financing options for those interested"... Wow that sound sketchy at best, as if the ink on the contract hasn't even dried yet.
It sucks because the tech IS great and this bike would be something I'd ride forever, even giving up my car for. But these companies keep thinking we all have crazy amounts of money to spend when most of us are one paycheque away from literal homelessness... Totally out of touch with most people's living situations.
Still trying to ride that early adopter-covid thing where people blew all their cash on expensive junk, electric stuff in general is still mostly overpriced, oh well, plenty of used gas bikes to ride for low cost. Big tire = slow turn in or the wheel is too narrow? who knows.
Why are you so flabbergasted about the price? Any new bike electric or not will cost atleast 30k$... If you don't have the money to buy bike then just don't buy it. It's not necessary thing to get, but if you have the extra money then go for it.
Couldn't of said it better
This is how I always imagine electric bike to look.
Just love it proper Tron bike❤❤❤
The primary advantage of a higher voltage battery is it can have a faster DC charging time. This is similar to how USB fast charging uses higher voltage to reduce the impact of the amperage limitation of the charger cables.
Those are some wild torque numbers
How is the security system on this bike? Does it have inbuilt GPS and alarms like Teslas do? What's the key situation?
Want! There's some huge holes in those brake rotors up front! I guess they want you to use Regen to slow down. In answer to your Why: 20kW of battery is almost 1/3 of my Tesla, so range should be pretty good. Props to them for making this bike, I can't wait for Gen 2 or 3...
I love the concept and looks and the range should not be too much of a problem but agility is very important to me so I probably would not buy it.
I rode a prototype about 18 months ago. Only had about 5 minutes on it, but the handling didn't seem quite right. Almost felt like a flat rear tyre, but it could just have been the size.
Pretty cool
I changed tire brand from Pirelli Diabolos to Bridgestone battlaxs on both of my bikes, steering becomes carving, they are different bikes now ready for the track
Two questions: Do you think the placement of the battery being so low messes with the handling? Years ago Honda attempted to lower the CG on a racebike and it made handling bad, they got rid of that idea. Two: Is it difficult to change the rear tire? Seems that it wouldn't be an easy out and in.
Just search for Verge TS changing the rear tire or something like that. There's a video on TH-cam.
Great concept, but one of the great things about gas powered is the noise. The loud noise from a motorcycle helps vehicles know that there is a bike there.
I think I'd prefer is this was a awd motor. Nobody wants to drive in the rain, but more traction would be better.
180 back tire and 12k to 15k retail and definitely an option 😊
Hopefully they get enough money from these bikes to then be able to make a new bike with lessons learned from this one.
Would be nice to try one of these.
Looks cool, Troy.
Not that much more expensive than the top end Zero's, which are horrid and have even worse warranty coverage.
But..........I am sensing another
it should do over 160 miles or so on a charge. The real question everyone should be asking at this point is not how far it goes on a charge but how fast it charges.
@@caspianprince need to see it REAL world do 160
I'd be very impressed
@@joeblow5037 the Experia does 160 easy, with the same size battery, so this should be on a par.
Mentioned the elephant in the room a couple of times but then never even hinted about even an approximate expected range.
For EV bikes they are all largely the same... you will get about 8-10 miles per kWh on average, dropping to about 6 on multi-lane stretches, rising to about 12 round town. So if the usable battery capacity on this one is about 18kWh, expect to get 162 miles out of it. Which is more than my Z900, and about 40 miles more than my Zero.
And the second biggest elephant in the room: How long does a nearly empty battery take to charge to full? I bet you it's not 2 minutes, like it takes for my Z1000SX to fill up
@@hgbekkerit'll be an hour at least... which in general use is perfectly fine. It'd be nice if it was half an hour or even 15 minutes, but in practice, an hour is ok if you're touring. The other 99% of the time it's charging at home and is therefore actually less inconvenient than your Z. (I know, coz I have both)
aha it says on the website 35 minutes on a DC charger. So there you go.
@@caspianprince sounds crap.
Don’t need modes if Verge had Graphene Batteries ! 😂
This should have been a cruiser, with that wide rear.
21kWh battery is insanely huge for a e-motorcycle
No it’s not. The Energicas have the same capacity.
Still want to know why you would design a bike where you cannot balance the rear tire. Not the wheel, the tire. And I say this in every video featuring this bike, "Leaving the phase leads exposed is a pointless and egregious safety hazard. You're needlessly endangering people for some cool looking orange wires on the side of the bike."
Edit- I'm glad Troy got to ride this and share his experience because he's uniquely qualified.
Your bike position whilst cornering is really awkward.
And you apparently have no EV bike experience.
Regen is perfect for neutral cornering.
It's like with big 2cil. Bikes on engine braking.
Finland is not considered part of the Scandinavian Peninsula, as it is located to the east of the peninsula and has distinct cultural, historical, and linguistic differences from the Scandinavian countries. Finland is referred to as a Nordic country, along with Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Iceland.
Much of it is really Scandinavian in practice . It may have even been part of the Svedish Empire .
Meh, I’ll stick with the better handling Energica.
Finland is a Nordic country. It's not Scandinavia...
Why would you expect an American to know world geography?
@@marty1035 well... They're making videos about motorcycles and telling some facts about them. Should they check the facts before they put it to the headline??
It depends on the definition. Finnland is included regularly nowadays
Wrong
did this mf just say 775lb/ft of torque???
No doubt it's electronically, damped, limited, traction controlled etc etc...otherwise it'd be unusable and/or result in insane safety liabilities for the company which makes me think it's a reasonably pointless feature of the motorcycle and apart from the bragging rights probably doesn't result in an appreciably different torque experience than an SV650 with a cat delete and tune.
Finland isn’t part of Scandinavia, just to be clear
Finland is the part of Skandinavia. Finnish history was hundres years been part of Sweden. Our second language is swedish. 😎👆
I really dislike those exposed cables......
Are there enough people interested in this too support a company? Electric dirt bike makes sense, kids/adults can tear ass without some grumpy bastard hearing and calling police.
Why did they call it the TS.... Trans SEXUAL?😮😮😮😮
So 30k and it basically doesn't handle. You can't buy off physics, all that unsprung rotating mass at the back will kill the fool who will actually try to ride this nonsense hard around a corner
Finland isn't Scandinavia. Just sayin'.
11 minute video and you didn't even mention the 2 biggest questions......range and charging time.
For $3,999 that’s a good deal 😂
I wish e-moto standard would switch to bicycle standard and make the left brake lever front / right for rear
You can switch the hydraulics if you like, but you might kill some curious petrol heads trying electrification
I have been told that bicycle left hand front brake is primarily a USA standard. Other areas of the world use a bicycle right hand front brake. I have not confirmed this.
@@erniecolussy1705 Yes - in the Uk at least it's right hand front brake for both motorbikes and bicycles. I'd *hate* a left hand front brake. Not keen on the rear being on the bars either. Keep it like a standard motorbike. Of course, you can modify your own bike however you want.
Finland is not scandinavian
Was just about to write the same thing.
Nordic, yes.
Fennoskandian, yes.
But not, Scandinavian..
Drunk....Not *all* the time but in general yes 😏
This product is a scam, they attract buyer with insane impossible numbers, they claim 1200N-m (885ft-lbs) of torque from a small 150kW motor, that's almost as much as the COMBINED output of the three much larger/heavier motors inside a Tesla Plaid, they bumped the numbers 3-4X.
Sure, but the battery is huge, power isn't good and doesn't matter. Someone who I know almost died with a fast bike
The 1200 Nm number is the torque on the rear wheel, so it’s not a fraud, only misleading.
Has too much cheap looking plastic. Lifewire looks better. Why can't anyone make an electric bike that looks like a chopper or bobber? Also, all these silly modes are ridiculous. In the age of AI, one would expect the bike to have an AI which optimizes the settings in real time.
Man this bike looks cheap as hell, it looks like a poorly made concept bike from 2006
No, it doesn’t.
I can’t watch this. I tried watching a video once that had TS in the title once and I was scarred for life. Won’t risk it.
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No.
No matter what, you can still buy a 600cc Inline 4 cylinder sportbike for less than half the price, and get a real experience on a bike. Electric bikes are 20 years from making anything remotely satisfying to any real audience on planet Earth...minimum. Cool looking bike though.
I saw one in person in Westfield's in shepherds Bush west London looks amazing but the price is too much you could buy a live wire for this price from a more known company