I agree , when it was revealed he was Vitiate during the Zakuul story it was just amazing knowing that he was able to make 2 seperate empires like that hidden and stronger than the sith Empire
I plan to remake this video one day with higher quality and fix the subtitle issue. I noticed I also missed a few pieces of dialogue when different classes interact with the emperor.
To be honest, I think you got the Voice of the Emperor Voss mission and the Jedi Knight Act 2 finale backwards. Also, when will you plan to remake this video?
Like a typical Sith, he thought he could dominate the Force and like a typical Sith he failed miserably but not without causing much suffering and death.
@@jacobkarlin6147 Definitely not. It is impossible for Sith and other Darksiders to win because they actively work against balance and the Force. However, the Force is basically the God of the Star Wars universe so they can never really win.
Unbelievably amazing character. So evil. Loved him so much that in my head canon my Sith Warrior was so fanatically loyal to Vitiate in his role as Wrath that he actually considers obeying when Vitiate tells him to sit on his hands and await his death on Ilos. Always lose my shit at the "I don't remember introducing ourselves", all hilarity is immediately crushed with "You have no secrets from me." Absolutely terrifying. Even worse when reading that in the Lore Vitiate isn't even described as a person, but rather a "force entity." One of my favorite villains of all time.
@@theyoutubeacolyte969 yes! I love it. Easy to understand why. You walk into his station so sure of yourself, only for him to proceed to call you out by name, telling you that he already knows everything about you, all your weaknesses, insecurities and fears and proceeds to absolutely dominate you and several Jedi Councilors. Then infect your mind to an almost permanently. It literally took the entire galaxy uniting to kill him. TWICE and I still have my doubts he's actually dead. Dude drained Nathema of the Force to the point that even REVAN found it almost impossible to call upon the force there. Astronomically more terrifying than Sidious imo.
@@theyoutubeacolyte969 Hey guys I'm a bit confused. So in this video you chose the Outlander to be an Emperor's Wrath right? Are you suggesting that the Outlander then is actually Scourge? Is that established that if you choose that class then he is actually Scourge? Who is the Outlander supposed to be in canon?
The motive of both of them itself is different. 6:49 Vitiate wants to be eternal, and experience every kind of life imaginable. Palpatine wants to be eternal, and rule eternally This is why i thing your theory is wrong, and also believe why Palpatine is more evil
@@curzon9619 Well, perhaps his dark force noticed his environment. Tenebrae was born in the Sith Empire, so it was advantageous for dark force to appear early. But Palpatine was born in the Galactic Republic, and because jedi's powers were too strong, so it would be too risky for dark force to appear too early.
@@yezki8 I think they had different memories, so their motives could be different. In Palpatine's case, he rejected to those who refuse development(almost all the people of Naboo). So he believed that only he could develop his homeworld as a strong leader, as a hero. It implies that Palpatine's desire to live eternal was secondary. In Tenebrae's case, he just naturally wanted nothing but only eternal life as a god. To be a god involves that he can be anything, so he just wanted that. This means, if Tenebrae was the first form and Palpatine was the second, we can consider that as the first form he wanted to be a god, but as he failed, and reincarnated as palpatine, he perhaps unconsciously compromised with reality.
@LordVitiate-ov2tl He legitimately did not know that he was force sensitive or that he'd ever lived another life. Palpatine was just another dumb teenager who got his rocks off to dangerous swoop racing. Since the only entity that can reincarnate life in Star Wars is the Force itself, this theory is impossible since the Force hated Vitiate and Palpatine both. The two Sith wanted to enslave the Force and deny its will by attaining eternal life.
That's because Doug Bradley is the one who does his Vitiate/Sith Emperor persona, while Darin de Paul is the voice for his Valkorion self. The true body, Tenebrae, is voiced by Anthony Skordi.
I loved the interactions with Valkorian's spirit. I kinda wish this is what KOTOR 3 could have been. Meetra, Revan and Scourge kill Vitiate (in body only) but they cause a schism within the True Sith Empire and Revan battles with Vitiate's soul within him.
I have always wondered how did he do it. Did he have a main body this whole time? What was the purpose of the voice? Did I jump from Sith Emperor to Valkorion and then back when necessary? What was that body when he captured the Jedi Knight and those masters?
Does anyone know Who voices The VITIATE Body in echoes of oblivion, as it DOESNT Sound like Doug Bradley, any help is greatly appreciated THANKS! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU ALL, CHEERS! :D
I played this game mostly for the reason to see if the emperor returned after many defeats , now today this game is not worth playing anymore , boring updates
@@curzon9619 nope it's garbage and went downhill. Characters suck Character design sucks Story flawed and boring Needs more Malgus No Vitiate Combat has not changed No ranked PvP, got removed bc people are wimps No new PvP modes Still haven't removed huttball Playerbase is very small, I wonder why :) Numbers show something different than what ur saying :P
@@Goobendoogle 90% subjective complaints. Some of your complaints aren't even valid considering Malgus is literally 75% of the most recent plotlines, the other 25% being Mandalorians, which are tied into Malgus anyway. And remove Huttball? Why do you WANT them to remove more gamemodes? You want more players, don't beg them to remove fun modes, lol. Actual soyjak complaint.
People, as I'm Brazilian, I didn't understand much, how Lord Tenebrae has 2 bodies, Vitiate and Valkorion, and for me the best was Valkorion, how did he do that?
Here's your actual answer since people are talking out their asses: 1. He inhabited bodies that were capable of holding his immense power. In fact, he did this early on as a failsafe, like Horcruxes. 2. Body 1, Tenebrae, is MIA. No one knows where this body is.. There is no data.. 3. Body 2, Vitiate, was slain by the Hero of Tython, thus his dark energy and his soul escaped and inhabited Body 3, Valkorion, which he was prepping for a while now but forced to activate early. 4. Body 3, Valkorion, was slain, and he attempts to take YOUR body, the Outlander. 5. He fails miserably due to the kneel before the dragon of Zakuul skit they put on. It was a failsafe that Valkorion had created. He is slain and HE DIES. This is his true death. As he has no way to return with his memories into the body of Tenebrae. 6. We encounter where his dark energy had gathered up. Which happens to be in the Jedi GM's head at the time. He is trying to take her body. However, he does not have any of his memories, as the fragment was created while he was Vitiate. He has no recollection of the events that took place in KOTFE and KOTET. 7. He is slain here, thus killing him and the last of his existence. OR so we may think? 8. Remember that body, Tenebrae? MIA. We don't know if anything has gathered around this. Tenebrae is MIA and still remains MIA. We see the body Tenebrae in EoO. However, that's not the body. But just a fragment of his soul.
@@Goobendoogle Then how can he rule the Eternal Empire and the Sith Empire at the same time? That and Ziost shows he can control multiple people at the same time.
![Why the Strongest Sith Ever [Valkorion] Created the WEAKEST Sith Empire](/img/n.gif)
Valkorions voice actor is incredible.
Agreed
I agree , when it was revealed he was Vitiate during the Zakuul story it was just amazing knowing that he was able to make 2 seperate empires like that hidden and stronger than the sith Empire
And the thing of it is he looks NOThing like you’d picture!
Darin de Paul has many great roles.
@@EphemeralProductions you mean the original body?
this guy was rlly hopping from body to body over the course of 1500 years like it was nothing, legend
I’ve played the whole storyline but I’m still unsure of how he did that. It’s pretty crazy
He only did that for about the last 150 years actually. Before his death
@@johndoe-cv8prnah 300 yesrs
@@johndoe-cv8prafter revan tried to kill him
I plan to remake this video one day with higher quality and fix the subtitle issue. I noticed I also missed a few pieces of dialogue when different classes interact with the emperor.
To be honest, I think you got the Voice of the Emperor Voss mission and the Jedi Knight Act 2 finale backwards. Also, when will you plan to remake this video?
@@squishyman0829 I’m not sure. Gonna be a slow process
36:17 "Jedi order is not your concern. Leave their defeat to another"
@user-sz2yi6hj2l to palpatine
@@1qplayer626 yeap
Like a typical Sith, he thought he could dominate the Force and like a typical Sith he failed miserably but not without causing much suffering and death.
If not for the plot, he would have 100% won
@@jacobkarlin6147 Definitely not. It is impossible for Sith and other Darksiders to win because they actively work against balance and the Force. However, the Force is basically the God of the Star Wars universe so they can never really win.
*"Your constant silence across our history. This was your distraction?!"*
@@Redyank1194 this was my focus
Everything else - a means to an end.
Unbelievably amazing character. So evil. Loved him so much that in my head canon my Sith Warrior was so fanatically loyal to Vitiate in his role as Wrath that he actually considers obeying when Vitiate tells him to sit on his hands and await his death on Ilos.
Always lose my shit at the "I don't remember introducing ourselves", all hilarity is immediately crushed with "You have no secrets from me." Absolutely terrifying. Even worse when reading that in the Lore Vitiate isn't even described as a person, but rather a "force entity." One of my favorite villains of all time.
@@KingAlexrip ever read the Revan book? It goes into great detail how Scourge met the emperor, the dude was terrified of him
@@theyoutubeacolyte969 yes! I love it. Easy to understand why. You walk into his station so sure of yourself, only for him to proceed to call you out by name, telling you that he already knows everything about you, all your weaknesses, insecurities and fears and proceeds to absolutely dominate you and several Jedi Councilors. Then infect your mind to an almost permanently.
It literally took the entire galaxy uniting to kill him. TWICE and I still have my doubts he's actually dead.
Dude drained Nathema of the Force to the point that even REVAN found it almost impossible to call upon the force there.
Astronomically more terrifying than Sidious imo.
@@theyoutubeacolyte969 Hey guys I'm a bit confused. So in this video you chose the Outlander to be an Emperor's Wrath right? Are you suggesting that the Outlander then is actually Scourge? Is that established that if you choose that class then he is actually Scourge? Who is the Outlander supposed to be in canon?
Thank you for making this. Maybe sometime soon you can remake this with better quality.
Also now we need a similar video for Revan
Thanks for the support,
I appreciate it. I uploaded a similar video for Malgus. I think ur gonna like it.
Thanks for uploading this, veteran!
23:26 the scene and the music are so EPIC
Vitiate the most powerful sith ever. His empire was for millenniums.
True and zakuul was a goated civilization
27:31 - the quote of all quotes
Certain parts of the video don’t have subtitles because I had to use some of my old recordings.
Doug bradley / hellraiser pinhead as emperor vitiate is awesome
i have to admit, seeing Tenebre's spirit finally die has to be at the top of my ten star wars moments of all time
67 bby
thanks for making this
@@lativ3715 I’ll be remaking this eventually
@@theyoutubeacolyte969 may the Emperor guide you
@@lativ3715 while u wait u can see the videos I made for Malgus, (I’ll be remaking this one too) Baras, and Darth Tormen
@@theyoutubeacolyte969 sure, Baras is always a blast
2:02:03 When you are an Admin from a Discord Server:
Jedi Knight to Valkorion: Why Sith believe they can live forever?
Do not mistake me for the fools who seek immortality out of blind ego.
I believe Vitiate reincarnated into Palpatine.
We know that he did not. Palpatine was a regular teenager for years. Never even knew he had the force.
The motive of both of them itself is different. 6:49 Vitiate wants to be eternal, and experience every kind of life imaginable. Palpatine wants to be eternal, and rule eternally
This is why i thing your theory is wrong, and also believe why Palpatine is more evil
@@curzon9619 Well, perhaps his dark force noticed his environment.
Tenebrae was born in the Sith Empire, so it was advantageous for dark force to appear early.
But Palpatine was born in the Galactic Republic, and because jedi's powers were too strong, so it would be too risky for dark force to appear too early.
@@yezki8 I think they had different memories, so their motives could be different.
In Palpatine's case, he rejected to those who refuse development(almost all the people of Naboo). So he believed that only he could develop his homeworld as a strong leader, as a hero. It implies that Palpatine's desire to live eternal was secondary.
In Tenebrae's case, he just naturally wanted nothing but only eternal life as a god. To be a god involves that he can be anything, so he just wanted that.
This means, if Tenebrae was the first form and Palpatine was the second, we can consider that as the first form he wanted to be a god, but as he failed, and reincarnated as palpatine, he perhaps unconsciously compromised with reality.
@LordVitiate-ov2tl He legitimately did not know that he was force sensitive or that he'd ever lived another life. Palpatine was just another dumb teenager who got his rocks off to dangerous swoop racing. Since the only entity that can reincarnate life in Star Wars is the Force itself, this theory is impossible since the Force hated Vitiate and Palpatine both. The two Sith wanted to enslave the Force and deny its will by attaining eternal life.
It sounds like Doug Bradley it the beginning. It took quite a while through the video to hear Darin de Pauls voice.
That's because Doug Bradley is the one who does his Vitiate/Sith Emperor persona, while Darin de Paul is the voice for his Valkorion self.
The true body, Tenebrae, is voiced by Anthony Skordi.
I loved the interactions with Valkorian's spirit.
I kinda wish this is what KOTOR 3 could have been. Meetra, Revan and Scourge kill Vitiate (in body only) but they cause a schism within the True Sith Empire and Revan battles with Vitiate's soul within him.
I have always wondered how did he do it. Did he have a main body this whole time? What was the purpose of the voice? Did I jump from Sith Emperor to Valkorion and then back when necessary? What was that body when he captured the Jedi Knight and those masters?
Vitiate wears the Nikes from Back to the Future lmao
Does anyone know Who voices The VITIATE Body in echoes of oblivion, as it DOESNT Sound like Doug Bradley, any help is greatly appreciated THANKS! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU ALL, CHEERS! :D
It is doug
I played this game mostly for the reason to see if the emperor returned after many defeats , now today this game is not worth playing anymore , boring updates
Tf does that even mean
@@curzon9619 means that the new storyline sucks
@@Goobendoogle
Yeah except it doesn't, people just love to bitch and complain.
@@curzon9619 nope it's garbage and went downhill.
Characters suck
Character design sucks
Story flawed and boring
Needs more Malgus
No Vitiate
Combat has not changed
No ranked PvP, got removed bc people are wimps
No new PvP modes
Still haven't removed huttball
Playerbase is very small, I wonder why :)
Numbers show something different than what ur saying :P
@@Goobendoogle
90% subjective complaints.
Some of your complaints aren't even valid considering Malgus is literally 75% of the most recent plotlines, the other 25% being Mandalorians, which are tied into Malgus anyway.
And remove Huttball? Why do you WANT them to remove more gamemodes? You want more players, don't beg them to remove fun modes, lol. Actual soyjak complaint.
terrible way to end our lord and master
Well it could have been better but it was still a battle for the galaxy
I prefer he died in 67 bby
@@maleexile9053 yeah like in the plagueis novel. It was stated there i think. If He had died there, He could have been killed by a jedi in that era.
Palpatine who😂
You know Palpatine made this guy look like a noob, right?
Tenebrae > Palpatine
Not really no, the lore states otherwise.
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Lana lookin' like Roderika from Elden Ring
People, as I'm Brazilian, I didn't understand much, how Lord Tenebrae has 2 bodies, Vitiate and Valkorion, and for me the best was Valkorion, how did he do that?
He can swap bodies and control multiple bodies at the same time.
Here's your actual answer since people are talking out their asses:
1. He inhabited bodies that were capable of holding his immense power. In fact, he did this early on as a failsafe, like Horcruxes.
2. Body 1, Tenebrae, is MIA. No one knows where this body is.. There is no data..
3. Body 2, Vitiate, was slain by the Hero of Tython, thus his dark energy and his soul escaped and inhabited Body 3, Valkorion, which he was prepping for a while now but forced to activate early.
4. Body 3, Valkorion, was slain, and he attempts to take YOUR body, the Outlander.
5. He fails miserably due to the kneel before the dragon of Zakuul skit they put on. It was a failsafe that Valkorion had created. He is slain and HE DIES. This is his true death. As he has no way to return with his memories into the body of Tenebrae.
6. We encounter where his dark energy had gathered up. Which happens to be in the Jedi GM's head at the time. He is trying to take her body. However, he does not have any of his memories, as the fragment was created while he was Vitiate. He has no recollection of the events that took place in KOTFE and KOTET.
7. He is slain here, thus killing him and the last of his existence. OR so we may think?
8. Remember that body, Tenebrae? MIA. We don't know if anything has gathered around this. Tenebrae is MIA and still remains MIA. We see the body Tenebrae in EoO. However, that's not the body. But just a fragment of his soul.
@@Goobendoogle How was what I said ‘talking out of my ass’?
It's a simple answer to what they asked.
@@Lobsterwithinternet He can't control multiple bodies at the same time. Just 1. The others aren't him. His consciousness remains in one.
@@Goobendoogle Then how can he rule the Eternal Empire and the Sith Empire at the same time?
That and Ziost shows he can control multiple people at the same time.
Your a treasure!
Thx
I say Emperor Palpatine was better Emperor than Sith Emperor.
The German voice of the emperor sounds better.
@@OliverSchliffkowitz-zv3wj Die Macht ist mein. Ich befehle gesi.