The same Valkorion who killed his stepdad with a thought and tortured and killed his mum at the age of 6. Severed his dad's connection to the force, killed him and trapped his spirit at the age of 10. Conquered his first planet and was named a sith Lord by Marka Ragnos, the most powerful of the most powerful, at the age of 13. He feared Vaylin and her potential since she reminded him of himself.
@@MatrixWolf27 Yeah..would've loved a show back before the mouse was in charge..now though..leave the old republic untouched for the forseeable future please
The mere fact that he was building another empire....with his consciousness elsewhere is insane to me. How in the hell was that possible? What Sith can compare to a person who was actually living multiple lives?
Reminder to everyone wanting a Disney+ show on the Eternal family that the reason their story line was good in the first place is that they were written by BioWare, not by Disney or Lucasfilm. Arguably, the only decent Star Wars content that has come from Disney was The Mandalorian (but then the writers of that show also wrote The Book of Boba Fett, which fell flat). More likely than not, Disney will find a way to ruin any adaptations of the SWTOR lore.
Fallen Order and Jedi survivor storytelling is on par if not better than the mandalorian imo thank God lucasfilm and Disney don’t care about their games
Its been said a thousand times before. But the story of the Eternal Family in KOTOR, is better than the entire Sequel trilogy. Vaylin is a better character than Rey, and hardly no one has heard of her! I really would like Disney to create this story, make it trilogy or make it a Disney + series! Only one can dream...
No to Disney. A year ago I might have agreed as long as Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni worked on it because I thought The Mandalorian was good, but after seeing what they did with The Book of Boba Fett, no. Disney Star Wars is hopeless.
I kinda wished that thexan was in the game because I would think that he would be the one to rebel against arcann once he found out what crimes he commited.
This, and also I think he would be someone that could actually help Vaylin recover. She went through a lot, she loved both of her brothers, but what fueled her hatred even more, was that Arcann killed Thexan - one was gone, and the other was responsible for it. So in her mind she was abandoned, betrayed and left alone with the darkness that was growing inside her. He's also the only person who manifests to her when she's having her breakdowns, which signals how important he was in her life. I don't know if I'd wish for him to be alive, but I wonder how different Vaylin life would be if he would. Nevertheless, Vaylin deserved better. I wouldn't say "redeem her to the light side", because redeeming doesn't have to mean being full on light side, but idk, just make a recovery a possibility. Killing her being the only option was disappointing to say the least.
Ehhhh, not all things have to have a good ending because not everything has a good ending. I find it better that due to thexan being dead it was a downfall from there. But hey that's your opinion while this is mine, I do respect yours.
Same! I kept telling the devs back in 2017 - 2018, Valkorions robes would be awesome.... Wanna know why they haven't? Valkorions character model is one *whole* piece, his armour doesn't have separate game assets, that's why we don't have it and they don't want to change it so... :(
Valen power was restricted by valkorion which makes her similar to anakin/darth vader who's own power was restricted by palpatine. The difference is vader was held back by flawed armor, though palpatine claimed it was actually his mental state, while valen was held back by the immortal emperor's conditioning. Valen was able to remove her father's conditioning and access her full power but was eventually defeated.While in canon vader was able to use his full power unlike his legends counterpart.
Won’t happen, there are too many male characters. Wait for the Acolyte to come out. Headed by a lesbian chick who’s writer of the series has never seen Star Wars and it will be an all female Jedi cast. Welcome to Star Woke … I mean Star Wars .
Please no. The Mandalorian was fine, but The Book of Boba Fett was disappointing. Not too optimistic about the Obi-Wan and Ahsoka shows anymore. Disney is just too incompetent at handling anything Star Wars.
Is the "Outlander" a Cathar in this video? I've never played the game and only recently got into Star Wars and I'm trying to absorb as much as I can. Loving it. 41 and just found out how great this is!! I've seen the "Outlander" look different in other videos so I'm assuming it's just a character that you choose the appearance of. Great video. Explained well. The twins and younger sister are so cool. I hope Disney plus does something with them but if it's legends they won't, right?
If they wanted to prop rey up they should have made her a secret relative to the valcorians; If they had done right by her Character development and not been so obsessed with female empowerment/sjw politics she would be a lot more popular and Well liked by Star Wars fans!💯😁😉👍
If anything it’s close. Vaylin is 100% dark side though, giving her overall more power/skill, but starkiller is about as skilled as the twins with the lightsaber, so I think he would win
Imagine having some random asshole ghost possess you and take your entire empire for his own and started a family which brought the entire thing to its knees. Valkorian is a pretty tragic character
@@paulplaysgames6740 From your perspective sure. How bout everyone who didn't see the game cinematics or trailers? Thanks for your feedback it's much... Appreciated.
@@SWCentral yeah fair enough I suppose although I doubt anyone who’s interested in this wouldn’t of seen it. Anyway I’m not trying to be a dick and certainly don’t want argument. In fact your response has made me feel like my comment may have been bit harsh and unnecessary.
@@paulplaysgames6740 Nah we cool fam. We get a lot of comments on the channel and we try to look at them all equally. Trust me, your comments are anything but harsh in our eyes. We make videos about the things we are passionate about, people who come to watch are also passionate, including yourself I imagine. Stay awesome dude.
Hey! I've been back since February this year. I'm here to stay this time :D Peter is also staying, he'll be uploading SWTOR news and First Look videos. He also streams on Twitch quite often :)
Have Lady GaGa portraying Satele Shan would be super awesome. And Darth Malgus could be played by Hugh Jackman. Jesus. I just came up with High School Musical in space...
@@SWCentral oh okay, I saw some of the other bits of the game from a comic or the old republic comic book series. Thought they’d have a comic for this. Thank you though
@@iamkang They did make a comic series before the game released yeah but it does not include these characters :) they actually retconned ALOT from the comics so they are best enjoyed knowing that now.
Disney really wasted their chance with Star Wars. They could have done something original like this but instead they rehash the original movies except so poorly that 95% of the people they tried to please ended up hating it and the only ones that actually enjoyed the movies were those whose frontal cortex wasn't developed yet. This story has nothing to do with the light side versus the dark side, good versus evil or Jedi versus Sith. It just runs so much deeper and it comes across as far more relatable and realistic. I feel like Disney is obviously afraid to touch on darker grey areas and especially the expanded universe for that matter, that is why we can just leave Disney to burn. Just like how they burned away all their money on terrible movies that nobody will look back fondly on.
@@kye698 its an elite riual to make soldiers super soldiers or just sometimes called assets. A rich white magus a kind of father figure will adopt children. in this case there was 2 of them. they were raised with nothing no money. They were abused and trained. Even tho the father is a galactic figure with much wealth he raises the adopted kids with no money and hurts them and trains them to kill. They are told they are brothers but they are not. They only have each other they never receive any approval from the father or magus cuz he is not really they're father. FInally they are pit against each other this is the final test. They have already proven themselves in combat. One has to kill the other. Again its a blood ritual. the one who lives is given status as a new magus and is given praise for the first time. I have heard about this happening to some people i knew and after I saw this trailer it shocked me how it depicted exactly what happened but in a more fantasy sense. remember art imitates reality. When the people were telling me about this kind of satanic ritual/abuse they referred to it as twinning. They glorify it in this star wars trailer the descent into darkness and rendering of your own brothers flesh. The ritual is Cabbalist one that represents Kain and Abel. It sounds crazy but real kids are being raised like this everyday. You might meet a rich person like a judge or politician and ask yourself why are these people so cold? Why do they have a complete lack of apathy or care for other people? They grow up in satanic elite families I mean seriously you tube satanic families its ALL over the internet. It happens right in our faces everyday. The whole adoption orphanage industry is so fucked. Its full of nothing but satanists and pedophiles. If you ever meet an orphan ask about they past its usually very dark/ w some sexual and ritualistic abuse. I know at least 25 adopted kids with the same story. Again if your watching the trailer and you now nothing about these kids of rituals it just desensitizes you to it. If you've already been initiated into one of these groups they know exactly what they are seeing. try to google or youtube ritual twinning you might find some cases about it. If you look hard enough you will find a lot.
@@kye698 be careful going down this rabbit hole its sick its dark but its real. we cannot be pussies and not speak out against it. they put it in films tv media and we eat it u but not me.
@@kye698 if you watch the link they are training the kids to kill and be heartless no different from how they train the twins in the star wars trailer. but the two kids have each other, those 2 kids got saved but if they hadn't eventually one would have to kill the other. Thus be initiated as a new witch or warden. That is sith which is just satanism in real life. art imitates reality
Its not even writing at this point as it happens IRL way too much, but your think itd be clearer he aint the one BEFORE you have children. Like she gave no fucks till "oh he will treat our children the same as all the other peasants - WHAT A TERRIBLE HUSBAND AND FATHER!!! >:( "
LOL THIS IS SO ON POINT BUT THE FOX FIX WAS EASY - reincarnate all five spirits so that VALKOR (VAL THOR?) IS the dragon emperor and the spirits of everyone else were put into special female clone bodies and now they’re a 4 and 1 married SET lol art house of the Arya dragon is back! And I took comment 110 to make 111 so this is IN THE RECORD FOR GOOD.
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I generally figured that Valkorian didn't care what the twins accomplished together, he wanted to see which one of them would rise above the other.
Emotions betray people but Ambition does not.
Only Ambition shall guide you.
@@erikurizita6702 Google maps says 2hr drive
@@erikurizita6702 Put your foolish ambitions to rest
In the end, there can be only one.
The same Valkorion who killed his stepdad with a thought and tortured and killed his mum at the age of 6. Severed his dad's connection to the force, killed him and trapped his spirit at the age of 10. Conquered his first planet and was named a sith Lord by Marka Ragnos, the most powerful of the most powerful, at the age of 13. He feared Vaylin and her potential since she reminded him of himself.
Yep
No it's cus bad writing and girl power crap.
And I thought the skywalkers had family problems
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There Is Always a bigger fish
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I thought I had family problems too
So this was a family of powerful force users that had beef with sith AND jedi? How is this not a movie or TV show???
Ikr, this more grey approach to the force is really interesting.
Tell me something, do you really trust Disney to not do their absolute best to ruin the story? XD
@@MatrixWolf27 Yeah..would've loved a show back before the mouse was in charge..now though..leave the old republic untouched for the forseeable future please
Kennedy and Disney don't care about good story telling.
Could be like a game of thrones but with lightsabers....... but Disney don't have that in him
One thing you could have mentioned was that Valkorion started building his Eternal Empire centuries before events of SWTOR.
I thought that was implied :O
But yeah you is right
The mere fact that he was building another empire....with his consciousness elsewhere is insane to me. How in the hell was that possible? What Sith can compare to a person who was actually living multiple lives?
Reminder to everyone wanting a Disney+ show on the Eternal family that the reason their story line was good in the first place is that they were written by BioWare, not by Disney or Lucasfilm. Arguably, the only decent Star Wars content that has come from Disney was The Mandalorian (but then the writers of that show also wrote The Book of Boba Fett, which fell flat). More likely than not, Disney will find a way to ruin any adaptations of the SWTOR lore.
Thx for the reminder
Ashoka is meh so I could totally see them messing this up badly
I’d give it to the rogue one/andor writers, hire a real nerdy lore master squad and walk away.
Fallen Order and Jedi survivor storytelling is on par if not better than the mandalorian imo thank God lucasfilm and Disney don’t care about their games
I'm sure Valkarian realized giving his god tier force wielding daughter to the torturers might have been a bit of a misstep
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One thing I've learned from Star Wars is that Sith families, & Jedi families, are never the healthiest.
“He killed his brother…. His twin brother”
*Jaina and Ulic Qel-Droma wail in the background.*
Being a twin usually sucks in star wars minus Luke and Leia
Its been said a thousand times before. But the story of the Eternal Family in KOTOR, is better than the entire Sequel trilogy.
Vaylin is a better character than Rey, and hardly no one has heard of her! I really would like Disney to create this story, make it trilogy or make it a Disney + series! Only one can dream...
No to Disney. A year ago I might have agreed as long as Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni worked on it because I thought The Mandalorian was good, but after seeing what they did with The Book of Boba Fett, no. Disney Star Wars is hopeless.
@@OrifielM i hate Filoni
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul why
@@billpenfold4325 because hes the one who put the EU in life support
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul ok thx for letting me know
I kinda wished that thexan was in the game because I would think that he would be the one to rebel against arcann once he found out what crimes he commited.
This, and also I think he would be someone that could actually help Vaylin recover. She went through a lot, she loved both of her brothers, but what fueled her hatred even more, was that Arcann killed Thexan - one was gone, and the other was responsible for it. So in her mind she was abandoned, betrayed and left alone with the darkness that was growing inside her. He's also the only person who manifests to her when she's having her breakdowns, which signals how important he was in her life. I don't know if I'd wish for him to be alive, but I wonder how different Vaylin life would be if he would.
Nevertheless, Vaylin deserved better. I wouldn't say "redeem her to the light side", because redeeming doesn't have to mean being full on light side, but idk, just make a recovery a possibility. Killing her being the only option was disappointing to say the least.
Thexan always looked out for his brother, he would definitely be on his side regardless of him not being necessarily evil.
Ehhhh, not all things have to have a good ending because not everything has a good ending. I find it better that due to thexan being dead it was a downfall from there. But hey that's your opinion while this is mine, I do respect yours.
@@Skitz6969 It doesn't need to be a good ending some of us just wish he was alive and see how that would go.
Then there's the version where you kill the most powerful family in the galaxy by punching them all to death.
Sounds alot like GoW😂
I really want Valkorion’s robes in swtor
Same! I kept telling the devs back in 2017 - 2018, Valkorions robes would be awesome.... Wanna know why they haven't? Valkorions character model is one *whole* piece, his armour doesn't have separate game assets, that's why we don't have it and they don't want to change it so... :(
SWTOR Central that’s ridiculous
@@theyoutubeacolyte969 Don't I know it
Came back to tell you, they're adding his set!
@@SWCentral awesome can’t wait, wonder if the devs are gonna make it the most expensive cartel item
“Vaylin was very strong in the fawz”
Onslaught: oh hey yeah,,vitiate might be coming back
Excuse me what?!
Also interesting to note that during the events of KOTOR, Valkorion was technically beginning the construction of all this.
Valen power was restricted by valkorion which makes her similar to anakin/darth vader who's own power was restricted by palpatine.
The difference is vader was held back by flawed armor, though palpatine claimed it was actually his mental state, while valen was held back by the immortal emperor's conditioning. Valen was able to remove her father's conditioning and access her full power but was eventually defeated.While in canon vader was able to use his full power unlike his legends counterpart.
Care to elaborate that bit about canon Vader vs. EU/Legends Vader?
@@mynkir-sol2150 legends vader was limited by his mental state, canon vader seems to have overcome this weakness.
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 canon vader still can't archive his full potential, will lose to the emperor
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 still closer to his full potential than before.
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 true
If Disney wants my money, they’ll make a series for this…………I SAID IF DISNEY WANTS MY MONEY, THEY’LL MAKE A SERIES FOR THIS!!!!
Won’t happen, there are too many male characters. Wait for the Acolyte to come out. Headed by a lesbian chick who’s writer of the series has never seen Star Wars and it will be an all female Jedi cast. Welcome to Star Woke … I mean Star Wars .
But as a mediocre imitation that contributes nothing to the lore
Please no. The Mandalorian was fine, but The Book of Boba Fett was disappointing. Not too optimistic about the Obi-Wan and Ahsoka shows anymore. Disney is just too incompetent at handling anything Star Wars.
Ahhh hell nah, don’t let Darth Mickey touch this they would butcher it
🤡 Disney don't want money they want to push WOKE SJW ACTIVITS ideology
I need a CGI movie 🎥
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Man I want more old Republic novel like this lol
This family and their story NEEDS its own movie or a Series like The Mandolorian and Asohka
Is the "Outlander" a Cathar in this video? I've never played the game and only recently got into Star Wars and I'm trying to absorb as much as I can. Loving it. 41 and just found out how great this is!! I've seen the "Outlander" look different in other videos so I'm assuming it's just a character that you choose the appearance of. Great video. Explained well. The twins and younger sister are so cool. I hope Disney plus does something with them but if it's legends they won't, right?
Yeah the outlander is just the player character :) it was just an easier name to reference rather than saying "the player character" every time haha.
That was so confusing but necessary knowledge. 😅Thanks!
i love the story of valkyrian, but i hate that "they" gave him immortality only to take it away in the end.....
I don't think you have to kill Vaylin
If they wanted to prop rey up they should have made her a secret relative to the valcorians; If they had done right by her Character development and not been so obsessed with female empowerment/sjw politics she would be a lot more popular and Well liked by Star Wars fans!💯😁😉👍
Whose stronger Galen marek/starkiller clone or vaylin?
Vaylin, no contest
Star killer is leagues stronger than vaylin.
If anything it’s close. Vaylin is 100% dark side though, giving her overall more power/skill, but starkiller is about as skilled as the twins with the lightsaber, so I think he would win
@@muhammadsalaam649 no
Star killer was created to be as powerful as luke skywalker so if he had lived longer starkiller but if we are talking just witnessed feats valyn
Where did u get these high quality clips of the eternal empire
From the game :)
The Cinematic trailers looked amazing, and made you really anticipate the story. The actual story though... Not so much.
sooo... Arcann lives. cool. i liked him, even though he killed his brother...
I’d love an oils republic story
How do I start this questline/mission in SWTOR? I'm pretty sure I haven't played this mission line.
It's part of the expansion, Knights Of The Eternal Empire (or something like that).
Youd think valkorion would of taken vaylin under his wing instead of sending her to get "conditioning". Probably would of worked out better for him
Its always the family fueds, Star Wars, God of War, Transformers
Not quite so dead by the end but fair enough
Why do these dudes look like starkiller?
Imagine having some random asshole ghost possess you and take your entire empire for his own and started a family which brought the entire thing to its knees. Valkorian is a pretty tragic character
like cybernetics and weiling double light saber and normal one and other kinds of stuff
when will there be new swtor new species new clases and new stuff
They haven't added any new classes so far, I doubt they'll start any time soon I'm afraid.
Bro you basically just told us what we saw in the trailer.
Not at all. The trailer explains Thexans visits to Vaylin? Senya's exile to the front lines? etc.
Bro your into is an explanation of what we just saw it could be half size vid
@@paulplaysgames6740 From your perspective sure. How bout everyone who didn't see the game cinematics or trailers?
Thanks for your feedback it's much... Appreciated.
@@SWCentral yeah fair enough I suppose although I doubt anyone who’s interested in this wouldn’t of seen it. Anyway I’m not trying to be a dick and certainly don’t want argument. In fact your response has made me feel like my comment may have been bit harsh and unnecessary.
@@paulplaysgames6740 Nah we cool fam. We get a lot of comments on the channel and we try to look at them all equally. Trust me, your comments are anything but harsh in our eyes.
We make videos about the things we are passionate about, people who come to watch are also passionate, including yourself I imagine. Stay awesome dude.
Are they cannon ? And if so where are they or where did they go in the original trilogy
Nope, they are not cannon. And they are loooong dead during original trilogy.
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Are you back after all these years? The other guy is gone?
Hey! I've been back since February this year. I'm here to stay this time :D
Peter is also staying, he'll be uploading SWTOR news and First Look videos. He also streams on Twitch quite often :)
Have Lady GaGa portraying Satele Shan would be super awesome. And Darth Malgus could be played by Hugh Jackman. Jesus. I just came up with High School Musical in space...
Dude no
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what outfit is the cathar wearing in this?
Dank Farrik (0 0) Why would fans complain about Rey when there was Vaylin.
Vaylin became a fan favourite, Rey did not :p
I think it is a waste after all of those cinematics with Vaylin that you cannot redeem her.
Can't wait for this in live action with Keanu Reeves as Valkorion, oops spoilers
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Here's hoping Disney doesn't listen to you and cast Morgan Freeman as Valkorion
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul what about Charles Dance?
@@Ale-dd3ek better off as a sidekick
Is this part of a book or comic ?
Game :)
@@SWCentral oh okay, I saw some of the other bits of the game from a comic or the old republic comic book series. Thought they’d have a comic for this. Thank you though
@@iamkang They did make a comic series before the game released yeah but it does not include these characters :) they actually retconned ALOT from the comics so they are best enjoyed knowing that now.
Disney really wasted their chance with Star Wars. They could have done something original like this but instead they rehash the original movies except so poorly that 95% of the people they tried to please ended up hating it and the only ones that actually enjoyed the movies were those whose frontal cortex wasn't developed yet.
This story has nothing to do with the light side versus the dark side, good versus evil or Jedi versus Sith. It just runs so much deeper and it comes across as far more relatable and realistic. I feel like Disney is obviously afraid to touch on darker grey areas and especially the expanded universe for that matter, that is why we can just leave Disney to burn. Just like how they burned away all their money on terrible movies that nobody will look back fondly on.
Some of this is real twinning is a process like this in real life it's sick shit and only happens in elite families. Art reflects reality
Explain
@@kye698 its an elite riual to make soldiers super soldiers or just sometimes called assets. A rich white magus a kind of father figure will adopt children. in this case there was 2 of them. they were raised with nothing no money. They were abused and trained. Even tho the father is a galactic figure with much wealth he raises the adopted kids with no money and hurts them and trains them to kill. They are told they are brothers but they are not. They only have each other they never receive any approval from the father or magus cuz he is not really they're father. FInally they are pit against each other this is the final test. They have already proven themselves in combat. One has to kill the other. Again its a blood ritual. the one who lives is given status as a new magus and is given praise for the first time. I have heard about this happening to some people i knew and after I saw this trailer it shocked me how it depicted exactly what happened but in a more fantasy sense. remember art imitates reality. When the people were telling me about this kind of satanic ritual/abuse they referred to it as twinning. They glorify it in this star wars trailer the descent into darkness and rendering of your own brothers flesh. The ritual is Cabbalist one that represents Kain and Abel. It sounds crazy but real kids are being raised like this everyday. You might meet a rich person like a judge or politician and ask yourself why are these people so cold? Why do they have a complete lack of apathy or care for other people? They grow up in satanic elite families I mean seriously you tube satanic families its ALL over the internet. It happens right in our faces everyday. The whole adoption orphanage industry is so fucked. Its full of nothing but satanists and pedophiles. If you ever meet an orphan ask about they past its usually very dark/ w some sexual and ritualistic abuse. I know at least 25 adopted kids with the same story. Again if your watching the trailer and you now nothing about these kids of rituals it just desensitizes you to it. If you've already been initiated into one of these groups they know exactly what they are seeing. try to google or youtube ritual twinning you might find some cases about it. If you look hard enough you will find a lot.
@@kye698 th-cam.com/video/QEP88ZTPmkk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WXPlPuH1NI-sufZO
@@kye698 be careful going down this rabbit hole its sick its dark but its real. we cannot be pussies and not speak out against it. they put it in films tv media and we eat it u but not me.
@@kye698 if you watch the link they are training the kids to kill and be heartless no different from how they train the twins in the star wars trailer. but the two kids have each other, those 2 kids got saved but if they hadn't eventually one would have to kill the other. Thus be initiated as a new witch or warden. That is sith which is just satanism in real life. art imitates reality
Its not even writing at this point as it happens IRL way too much, but your think itd be clearer he aint the one BEFORE you have children.
Like she gave no fucks till "oh he will treat our children the same as all the other peasants - WHAT A TERRIBLE HUSBAND AND FATHER!!! >:( "
Why don't they ever make an average force sensitive. They're always so powerful as children
Full name of arcann is arcann tirall right?
Yes :)
@@SWCentral thanks :)
LOL THIS IS SO ON POINT BUT THE FOX FIX WAS EASY - reincarnate all five spirits so that VALKOR (VAL THOR?) IS the dragon emperor and the spirits of everyone else were put into special female clone bodies and now they’re a 4 and 1 married SET lol art house of the Arya dragon is back! And I took comment 110 to make 111 so this is IN THE RECORD FOR GOOD.
Vaylin was weak i killed her befoe
I am jedi sean sem xem truth or die
Where is ur accent from?
My mouth :p
I'm from a place called Hull!
Lmao Wtf are threse subtitles
It's really too bad the graphics are so bad, because this game could have been really good.
Lolololol. Ahh you kids today.
@@wryterzblock exaclty lol this game is really good its just old...
We have the same pfp:)
Graphics above gameplay? Plebeian.
This comment makes me feel my age, lol.