Marines "Lost Honor" - Sexual Assault Prevention Training Video
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- "Lost Honor" is a video designed to help prevent sexual assault within the Marine Corps, developed by the Marine Corps Defense Services Organization (DSO). It is meant to be watched and then used as a discussion tool, guided by select non-commissioned officers using the discussion guide available on the DSO's website: www.hqmc.marines.mil/DSO. This particular video and its accompanying discussion guide are offender-focused, as several of the other sexual assault prevention training programs are victim-focused.
My staff sergeant at the recruiting office explains very well that once you earn the title of Marine, you are always a Marine. Even getting drunk and taking advantage of another Marine is misconduct. Once you earn that title, you live towards it. A Marine should hold honor, discipline, and respect.
In the words of Mary Poppins, "Piecrust Promise, easily made, easily broken."
Case-in-point, these nimrods.
Yeah. But so is false reporting of rapes
When I joined, some of the recruiters were having sex with the women enlistees ( high school aged girls,) while at MOS school served with a MM that was involved with a Gunney Sergeant that was her recruiter.
But did he? I don’t know, I wasn’t there. After hearing 1 side only, it sounds like a couple of drunk kids playing around, not a sexual assault. I’m inclined to say the Marine who was let in, let in to her bed, isn’t guilty of jack sh!t. It sounds like a classic case of she regretted it after consenting, now his entire life is ruined.
This is why you never "hookup" with another Marine under ANY circumstances...
Exactly never shit where you eat
@@scottkennedy5430 So that's how you view a relationship with a women? The equivalent of emptying your bowels?
@@suecollins3246 you are dumb and don't know what he said
@@suecollins3246 It's an expression
Exactly
So both participants are drunk. She says yes. Only male gets in trouble and life ruined. Am I missing something?
her affirmative action card and victim status.
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I don't understand. If both parties are drunk and consent to sex, why is it the man who gets accused of rape?
because no guns were involved in the making of this video
OnePermutation it's because people will almost always see men as the villain and women as the victim. You can sometimes see glimpses of this when you look at the way people look at man watching his kids playing in a park vs a woman doing the same.
Honestly, whoever is the active partner, the one "thrusting" is the one committing the act. The other (in this case a female Marine) may be too drunk to resist. Normally the man is the one acting--but you better believe that if the woman is "on top" or otherwise making the moves while the male is unable to resist, then the female would be the assailant. One of the Marines in this video, was in fact female. Email me if you are still confused.
because the girls where drunk to and didn't resist so it's not rape
you just answered your own question. "both parties are drunk" Both parties lost honor. As far as I"m concerned if both were drunk and both consented, they both should lose. It does seem an inequity for only the men to suffer the repurcussions, but then again as men, we bear the responsibility of being men. Then again as the documentary shows, ain't just the men doing the crime. Women are being convicted as well.
This documentary should be shown during recruit training.
There is no doubt that this video should be shown during the training of military recruits no matter what division in what army in the world that such recruits have chosen to join. Being dishonourably discharged (or as Britain’s equivalent to the US Marine Corps put it, “dismissed with disgrace”) is a great shame, but totally preventable. Anyone dishonourably discharged from the military has almost always been convicted of a violent criminal offence (or otherwise convicted of a serious criminal offence such as fraud).
Funny you should say that. This exact video was shown to my company when I was in recruit training in 2015.
ghostbear200123 they do show it
Graduated a few months ago. They showed it to us and we had a guided discussion about it with our Senior DI during Marine week.
They do
Solution:........ DON'T GET DRUNK WITH FEMALE SOLDIERS OR MARINES!!!!! They are to dam complicated!
I stood a hearing to determine trial. I wrote up 2 women caught in the act. 1 was UA as assigned Duty NCO when the duty list was posted over 4 weeks in advance and she did not follow established procedure. The other woman was caught with booze in the barracks and men in her room well beyond after established hours. They both complained of overfamiliarity. Both got tossed for making false official statements. (pre Gulf War era).
I am a former 0311 and I work in a VA mental health ward where we also have inpatient Military Sexual Assault patients. We have more males than females... It can happen to anyone. The fact that everyone focuses on male vs. female sexual assault is troubling. Much like PTSD, Military Sexual Assault is difficult for those suffering from it to come forward. Don't keep it in- come forward.
If you are still military, download the "DoD Safe Helpline" app from Google Playstore or iPhone app store. It's free and confidential and will NOT come back to you in any way. There are resources available that they can put you in contact with. There is a chat feature, too.
I work in a family peaceful shared custody support capacity, and also see that DV against men is not recognized and is quite stigmatized to the point of zero services or shelters available for men where I live, but three well known ones for women and named womens shelters, not DV support shelters or community support shelters.
make a documentary of women who falsely accuse men of sexual harasment
Just saying, rape has the exact same level of false reporting as any other crime against a person. False reports of burglary, assault, battery, and attempted murder all have similar levels of false reporting--around 3-5%. The media often reports false reporting of rape because it is newsworthy--it's making the news because it is noteworthy, unusual, etc. Also, don't forget that the vast majority of reported sexual assaults in the Department of the Navy (of which Marines are a part) don't even make it to court martial--usually for lack of evidence. This doesn't mean that it didn't happen, or that the victim made it up--just that there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute. That is another matter that leads to the assumption, like yours, that women make up these reports.
It always men who lose this case so sad.
So true question is how harrassment can be crime? Women makes up stories always men lose the case.
im. about to join the Air Force but my dad is Army and 3 of his friends have been Discharged because of FALSE claims. all the women have came and said it wasnt true. nothkng they can do after that.
Why are people talking about rape?! He said SEXUAL HARASSMENT! There is a big difference between the two. Rape reports aren't as reported as other charges. THAT is true. What ISN'T true is the same being for sexual harassment. Those type of charges are extremely common, and many of them are dismissed because it they were either false accusations or not enough to make a good claim.
I hope that none of these prisoners are in jail because a false claim was believed.
How to avoid Sexual Assault:
1. Dont Get Drunk
2. Do something sensible, like reading a book or polishing shoes instead in your free time
3. Avoid Bars
How to avoid rape:
Don't rape! Why should the women try and do something when sole responsibility lies the perpetrator?
@@kassthered8452 I agree but there is some truth to his statement. There are definitely certain precautions that can be taken to avoid a situation like that from happening. Nothing extreme like out right avoiding bars and social setting out of fear of an assault. Rape can happen anywhere after all. More along the lines of going out with a group of trusted individuals, preferably of the same sex. Never going to the restroom alone. Being responsible in your alcohol intake. Carrying some sort of protection such as mace. Educating people on sexual assault is important but we live in a world were some people truly do not care. Empathy is not a trait that everyone of us can retain. In a perfect world those precautions wouldn't be necessary and no one would assault anyone. But in this day and age, teaching people not to rape just isn't enough. You have to teach people to take precautions, analyze certain situations where a rape is likely to happen, and excersises steps to remove themselves from the situation safely. It's always better to be safe than to be sorry.
💯 I concur!!
funnylikeaclown,
The Pentagon has estimated 53 percent of victims of sexual assault in the military are male, mostly being assaulted by other men.
Semper Fi,
Lance Cpl. T
Marines wow
Marines d
That percentage quote comes from a New York Times. 53 percent was applied to measure the 26000 military personnel that complained that they had received unwanted sexual contact and about half of those cases were done by men. That would mean that out of 5 people assaulted, almost 3 were homosexual. This could be an good indicator that there might be a link between sexual aggression and homosexuality. Of course, in the over all fact, we can't escape the fact that out of the total military population, that 53 percent case is only half of the 26000 which would be 0.5 * 26000/3.5 milion or 0.3 percent of the total population. So still yet relatively a very small problem in the military. Of course, if there is a link between Homosexuality and rape then increasing gays into the military could actually create a larger problem over time.
wtf? homosexuality is not equal to sexual assault among men. Homosexuality is not linked to rape. Power entices to rape, solitude plants it as a thought. Your thinking will create the largest problem for the world society, period, and it is called: homophobia.
Marines. .
Wow no shit.
Thats Crazy
I know rape is serious and disgusting thing. I'm a female but hold up wasn't the girl drunk too if she was having a good time and giving him green light how is that rape? Smh some women don't know how to handle liquor go party go crazy and flirt etc then the next day act like a victim. If they are both partying, drunk and enjoying each other I think they should both be charged or they should both be "the victim".
Dislemy Schz ikr
Dislemy Schz thats one of the reasons i dont go to parties. All people care about is alcohol, getting shitfaced, and being losers overall.
Fuck that.
So if there is a situation you and i, we got drunk and u gimme the green light and we enjoying each other.
So that's fine for us right?
What if the girl is drunk and Sucks the guy off who's also drunk. Did she orally rape him???? the military can be just as Effed up as civilian life sometimes when it deals with Male female issues.
Hashtag MEE TOO# o.k. when we go to war does all that matter when bullets are flying ???
Allegations of rape must always be investigated and wrongdoing that is proven punished appropriately. Martin Toney, at one time a colonel in the British Army, was late last year dismissed with disgrace because he'd been convicted of having in 2012 groped and humiliated a then-junior female soldier by having kissed her and grabbed her butt. The incident in question had occurred at a ski chalet in a village in the southern interior of Norway albeit to the northwest of Oslo.
guaranteed all these cases were legit consensual sex between two drunks. Regret is not rape. If drunken status waves the magic wand for women being "incapable of knowing what's going on", it should also work the same for the man. Both are drunk, when there's no force, no violence, or coercion, it needs to get thrown out. Rape is a serious, vicious thing but feminists wield it like a toy and encourage women to fling it around with a nonchalant, casual attitude.
So true
I couldn't agree more. Nowadays even changing position without asking is rape. If my wife was as sensitive as some of the fucks out there, I'd have been put in prison twenty years ago for life! The amount of times I've switched shit up in the moment is ridiculous, and feminazis really need to die in a fire. And I can say that because my sister is a feminist and she's fucking great, we never argue about shit. But some people just take it waaaaaay too far.
Coercion can be physical intimidation, with or without words. The sheer size of the person initiating the act is also applicable to whether the other person felt threatened. Instead of flight or flight, scientists have determined that "freeze" is the response of 50% of most people who are assaulted. So, if the partner is NOT enjoying it (yet not screaming and punching)...one does not have a "sexual partner," but a frozen/silently intimidated person he/she is assaulting. Whether or not the person realizes it's an assault in another discussion.
@@LydiaBragg wonderful. If you make a mistake that's one thing but God forbid you're over 5' 11"
lmao talked to the recruiter. god damn hell promise you a mansion lmao
None of the Marines used alcohol as an excuse. They took full responsibility for their actions. When alcohol was stated, these Marines were actually warning agaisnt mixing alcohol and sex.
these marines did nothing wrong end of discussion
See, how do u chose how u sentence the person? These Marines can barely remember wat happened but surprisingly the "victims" can remember everything to have court martials like this. Seriously? I call B.S.
I'm a former sailor and knew marines who have gotten multiple duis and have just lost rank and pay and are still serving. Did I miss something?
They're short of bullet sponges.
Todd Bitsilly you're whatever undocumented story is useless you fat squid
You that losing rank & pay isn't shitty, people make mistakes shit happens
I remember that a girl in Bootcamp claimed false sexual harassment. She got the can as she should. Women crying wolf after the fact is a crime.
AGREED
I question whether these Marines participated in this voluntarily. Were they informed that this video would be posted to haunt them in perpetuity, making integration into society after doing their time even more difficult? I don't know if it is even possible to get informed consent from an inmate. They may not have been promised anything, but that doesn't mean they didn't anticipate informal consequences for not cooperating, or benefits for conceding. This video raises serious ethics issues.
wtf, theyre both drunk. Not of them can complain because both of them are intoxicated.
kn Smith exactly
unfortunately, in the military, it doesn't matter if one person or both parties are drunk. In the military, anyone under the influence cannot give consent. By law, it automatically makes it a violation under UCMJ. The military justice system is not in the business of serving justice. Their role is to show congress that they are handling sexual assault in the military and promote their conviction rate as such.
@@omarmassey2522 so does the other party get in trouble too?
@@tn4263 If they are military they can, though it rarely happens unless the other party is underage because it creates the perception that you're punishing the "victim". If they are civilian, regardless of prior service, the military can't do anything about it because they are not subject to the uniform code of military justice.
@@omarmassey2522 wow. That’s not justice.
What about the false accusers? They should be punished as harshly as convicted sex offenders. Also during the trials they should take account of the alcohol as that's usually the factor behind these things.
AGREED
False accusations of rape are no higher than false reports of other crimes like theft or fraud. According to the Law Enforcement professionals I work with, false accusations are only around 6% of all cases. It's incredibly difficult and embarrassing for men and women to come forward with a sexual assault claim.
Damn right
I just searched this entire comments section....Mine, from a few yrs ago has Vanished....I guess someone couldn't handle the truth or reality.... Why would someone do that ??....You know who you are !!!..... Colonel Dan Daugherty talks like a tough guy,... but believe me he is NOT !!!......Most of these cases shouldn't have even been convened, & he knows it !! ......His courtroom is a lying pit, where truth is scarce, & after serving 6 yrs, & discharged a Sgt. in the Marine Corps, I learned there are lots of Officers just like him....We called them "SCREWS".....They had one track mind....."Screw the Enlisted", & that's exactly what happens in his courtroom.....I never put myself in a position for the likes of him to get me in trouble......This video is a sorry excuse for a training tool... Officers just flexing their lawyer muscles. in front of the Enlisted, who are the REAL Backbone of the Corps......Enlisted Marines;.....Watch your backs, & keep your noses clean around these Disgraces !!!!
That's the truth right there!
Instrumental, imperative and vital! A must have and need!
Semper Fi
Robert Mercado, M.A., M.Div.. RegMFT
USMC 1973
Do they teach this topic to trainees? If not then that's poor. Teach how to survive, adapt, improvise, in combat how about what not to do in a party. Alcohol has ruined many a lives...
women not alcohol
Every case is different. The facts are different and therefore the sentences are different. Not every case is rape. Some maybe be just wrongful contact that was in a sexual nature that could still result in a conviction. Bottom line, do not mix alcohol with sex.
So in other words . Don't get drunk .
So, in other words, don’t join the Marines! 🤫
AOMechMarine AOMechMarine Pump the Brakes Devildog! It’s called humor! Entire family is USMC, lived on Pendleton for 4 years as a kid. Lived the Corps for many years, it’s just humor!
Austin Waggoner yeah don't get drunk band alcohol it's poison
Very glad this was posted. Sexual Assault is no joke...
I served in Okinawa and was their when the 3rd dental muders happened in 2005. This video popped up when I was searching for the case. I hate it for those Marines losing their careers so soon and young. Especially the ones under the influence.
This is infuriating, both are at fault. This is ridiculous.
now military retired, I've watched a few gain their rank by claiming "victim" no matter how slight. After the 2d victim event, she got caught lying via a hidden camera before it was a popular fashion statement (Gulf War workup). This one played the affirm act card until others confirmed she was questionable and finally got caught in her game. She was sent out of the Corps for making false charges that never "stuck". All those accused had lost entitlements returned to full value.
As a former active duty NCO marine glad and proud of the Corps cleaning up.
There is a reason why I ALWAYS stay in NCO mode and set the example. I will never have another gear.
How come I feel like that they where forced to say this 🤨
Wait if both idiots are drunk and consent is impaired and... they need to make a part 2 and go more in depth I'm highly confused
Get over what??? I was in the Marine Corps 25 years ago and the sgt. who raped me just got a slap on the hand and the whole issue was shoved under the rug. I was just out of boot camp when this happened and I have never gotten over this horrible event! I support what is being done about sexual assult and I hope they never stop persuing the sexual assulters.
This is a sad video but a great video! Everyone makes mistakes and they are owning theirs. Hope not just Marines but everyone learns something from this.
This is why people should NOT drink to the point of access. Also, we know that a woman is NOT responsible for her actions when she is intoxicated. The man is always responsible for his actions. Do I agree with that? NO! We all NEED to have personal responsibility for what we do. I say this as a retired Army Chaplain and former NCO. I have counseled many Soldiers on making sure they avoid situations that would get them into trouble. We all know once an accusation is made, you are guilty until proven innocent in this climate. My biggest problem is both parties engage in RECKLESS behavior, but only one is responsible for their actions and the other is NOT.
hold on people i believe they could be a fall guy. you guys know that the officers have the pull to get what they want
When I enlisted in the navy in 07-11, we were always going through classes on this stuff. That would be so rough to go through.
As OD I remember visiting Lcp P. Who was in the Brig charged with attempted sexual assault on a Colonel's daughter. He did not remember the incident, in a black out, then to the Brig. I knew he was going to serve time .
He was otherwise a great Marine.
im telling you limit the females limit quick.
Reading all those comments commands a reaction. As a civilian, I do think military personnel is entitled the same penalties as regards to sexual abusers. The issue you mostly raise is false accusation. In the case of both party drinking, the supposedly "abused" person (mostly women) is systemically believed to be a victim unless proven wrong. A few years back, in France, a teacher was accused of wrongful sexual contact on one of his young female students; the mother pressed charges. The man's life was annihilated and he committed suicide as he couldn't bear the situation. After a year-long investigation, it was proven that this sexual assault was a setup to get revenge for the mother's girl having bad grades... A petty revenge that brought a massive destruction to one person and his family. So, yes it's sad to see people abusing others. Yes, I feel so sorry for these young soldiers in the Video to get their lives destroyed. They might have done wrong, they got intoxicated and cannot remember doing the irrevocable. Should they be treated differently to us, I don't think so. the major issue here is most of our young soldiers when entering the army think they're invincible, beyond laws. The army needs better training about those risks...
I'm a former a 0311. We had some female Marines from the Air Wing over with us at San Mateo in Camp Pendleton. They sexually assaulted us. We liked it, except for the girl who looked like a guy!
consent is consent, both parties should know better and both parties shouldnt have anything to say against each other.
lmao “i was gonna choose arty but my mom was scared so i went admin”
The "judge advocate" really pisses me off...he either practiced his lines before the camera was on or he was reading from a cue card, it wasnt real at all. I know this video is supposed to be seriuos but wen you have the "law" involved have it be real so you can take it seriously.
Unbelievable! Captain Rob Plagmann, How about innocent until proven guilty!
They should take off the uniform they did honored themselves and the corps they do not deserve to bear the uniform of a United States marine
These dudes keep saying, “don’t think it can’t happen to you”. Cmon man, speak for yourself. I was a junior enlisted Marine once upon a time. I did a lot of drinking and partying, but it never occurred to me to sexually assault or rape anyone.
You gotta understand it’s not like they went out there and stalked anyone or prayed upon someone. Both parties knew one another had to much to drink and the guy made a move on her and she never said anything until it was to late. That’s the worst. Now if he forced his way on her and she’s clearly not consenting to it and fighting him off than that’s a whole different story. Thank goodness when I was in the navy that I didn’t mess around with other sailors.
Rule number one. Never join the miltary for anything so you don't get your life ruined
No one ever says "I wanna be a rapist when I grow up"
How the hell does the guy get charged when they were both drunk ? 🤷🏽♂️ Like what the hell? Equal rights, equal fights!
If this is the standard, both parties that got drunk and had sex should be jailed.
The scale of justice should be balanced.
The old saying goes "learn from your mistakes". One better is "learn from other's mistakes". Listen to their stories and do not make the same mistakes as they did. You DO NOT want to be in their circumstances, but it should be appreciated that they shared their judicial experiences as bad as it turned out for them.
I feel bad for them what if dude was sober and the woman had one drink hrs. Before the hook up and the guy thought she was sober too and she says she was assaulted sexually would that be a false claim? And she is not military
The Marine Corp & there laws suck
In these cases no one should be charged
I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. When I noticed their collars were light, I knew they weren't the victims.
Side note,, when I was in Iraq (Camp Fallujah), I got friendly with a female Marine. One day we were alone in her office and she pushed me up against a wall and started kissing me. I was cool with it, and we actually started dating. We broke up soon after I discharged (honorable), due to it being a long distance relationship.
The reason I mentioned this is because I would have never pulled that move on a female Marine. She obviously felt emboldened, and wasn't worried about any repercussions. Had I not been into her, I know I still wouldn't have reported it. Society has set up these double standards. Men are the aggressors, and women are the victims. This is so ingrained in our way of thinking that back then, I never would have thought that what she did was inappropriate... it was though.
On the bright side, I spent the rest of my deployment getting laid... it was pretty awesome. Again, it was a bad move on her part, but it got me through a tough deployment. Take from that what you want, not sure if there's a message in there somewhere.
This might be a stupid question, but if you’re in the brig why do you get to keep your branch tape on.
Question After they served there sentence are they getting kickout of the marine??..
Is there any way possible to get an age waiver approve at the age of 37 to join the Marine Reserves without prior service? Or is there anyone in the Marines an officer or someone with rank that I could submit a petition to ,for this to be consider?
These men as the women are strong to have gotten in front of a Camara and tell people what they have done yes it is wrong but I'm still going to say thank you for your service and May God watch over you and the people you did harm.
So they are both drunk and only the man got arrested
Did I just saw a US armed forces personnel guarding a poppy field in Afghanistan at 4:52 ? Say it ain't so.
Who knows what they were doing there, guarding it to make sure it doesn't leave before burning the field, etc.? That said, it's definitely embarrassing this war has been going on almost two decades and there's plenty of opium fields. Same country that approves of child prostitutes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan
Ever heard of that saying if you heard something say something🤔
it should be if you hear something don't say nothing and run hoorah 💃💃😂😂
I think I remember Gibbs and dinozzo investigating the first guys case
Why wouldn't they show this at boot camp? This is a sad video but it brings some enlightenment to a dark situation that many individuals don't consider or take into consideration. It can happen to anyone .... Anyone who is ignorant.
It is shown goofy. You were probably too busy touching your disgusting face when it was on.
depending on degree of sex crime,I believe these offenders should be allowed to stay in,unless charged with rape or violent assault!!they'll have a record but,a chance to redeem yourself!!
they probably lessend they're punishments for making the video
did you not watch till the end?
Thats just terrible. But i know the Marines isn't full of people like them. They know what they did wrong and hopefully they never do it again.
Do not sleep with drunk people period. Do not take that risk.
They disgraced the uniform. Kick them out, put them in normal prison. I know a lot of people who want to be in, and I believe that if you rape somebody, you don't deserve to be in the military. PERIOD.
This is very well made
I do not agree with making the addresses of convicted sex offenders public, but do agree with the need for such offenders to have to register. The federal sex offender registry in my homeland (Canada) is not open to the public even if the names contained in that registry have made news headlines before. Police services across that country do (and should) have access to that registry to make investigating crimes easier. A lot of sex offenders on the national registry will have to register for a very long time, perhaps for life, depending on the nature of their conviction(s).
They keep preaching it in SHARP (Army) Class, that No means no.... I don't drink, never have never will, and always the DD and make sure that people get home safe...
2.5 years?? Dang what all did the female marine do??
I agree with the need for sex offender registries to whose details law enforcement agencies in that jurisidiction have access. Such agencies should be required to provide such info to companies if such companies need to conduct vulnerable sector checks (e.g. hiring anyone to work as a teacher, tutor or bus driver). Making a registry available to the public goes too far because doing so unfairly stigmatizes such offenders, although local enforcement agencies should warn members of the public about violent offenders when there is clear evidence that is presented by correctional authorities that such warnings are required.
Sex offender registries can be found in at least some English-speaking UN member states in the West, among them Canada, Britain proper and Australia (at least of details of child sex offenders). The requirement to register as a sex offender can range from a determined time period to having to register for life.
Some sexual offences come with the possibility of life imprisonment. Under the Criminal Code of Canada (my homeland), I am aware of only one (aggravated sexual assault) whose maximum penalty is life imprisonment. Rape in English law comes with a maximum penalty of life imprisonment although I am not aware of any cases tried in England or Wales that have resulted in life sentences. Canadian criminal law allows prosecutors to seek dangerous offender designations against defendants convicted of any sex offence, although normally such orders are only granted if:
- prosecutors can beyond a reasonable doubt prove that neither a long-term offender designation nor determinate sentence is warranted AND
- the offence in question is otherwise one whose maximum is determinate instead of life
While they are "calm and collected", remember that those charged "did it to themselves". I was a "chaser" for 2 years once my command found me quite capable. I've escorted everything from check writers to drug busts and 2 murders. While they are treated with dignity, "the world" must understand they are not put in that situation by mistake.
There is drunk and there wasted out cold. If you are both drunk and one says no then that's rape. If you don't say anything and uncomfortable then that's on you. Even if you feel intimidated say no and be clear. When you get drunk you are expected not to drive and you can say no. That goes for both genders.
The first piece of advice for Soldiers,Sailors,Airmen and Marines...male *and* female...is don't get drunk. One or two beers? OK. But that's it. An intoxicated woman is more at risk of being a victim of crime...and an intoxicated man is more likely to do stupid things...including committing certain crimes.It's not rocket science.
Since this video was first posted on You Tube, It has been edited or changed , But basically the same. The people who created, & produced it are very sad excuses for lawful humans ..... They should be ashamed of themselves !!!!
Then can pick administrative.
I don't drink I don't smoke I frown upon those actions
The line is so thin. It’s scary. My brother used to say “Don’t deal with those F Marines when you enlist”. I’ve been in situations similar to them. In the room with a woman who drove over, your buds leave the room, etc. It seems like things are getting started and after you’ve started she asks about a con. She may even still be in the position, hadn’t moved, hasnt gotten up or moved away from you, but the minute he/she says anything contrary to what the original plans were, that’s when you stop. Even if in reality, she would have been ok with it, stop. She may not be ok with it now but be ok with it next week…you have no control over that, just move on. You can see how much the lines are blurred and you give up your credibility the minute you take a sip of alcohol.
Marines Pride Themselves On Moral Character But It Seems That The "Training" Doesn't Support That! The "Corps" Should Stop Trying To Cover Their REP & Address The Issues Of Alcoholism & Substance Abuse In Their Ranks, As Well As No Means NO!😳
why is everyone victim blaming..
We had a first sergeant who would hit on female junior enlisted Marines. Never was held accountable. But God forbid a Cpl and Lance Cpl. get married, and he tries to charge them with fraternization. I thought we are a band of brothers?
This problem deals with nature more than anything else! Blame it on nature!
This is sad
man I'd just go up into the woods and never come out
If someone accused me of doing rape, and I was convicted (if I didn’t do it) I would off with myself I couldn’t handle that
Why does Symansky look like Survivor Z from Z Nation?
Frankly, the story of the Marine from New York was a consensual encounter and then the female decided to get pissed off. After all, she allowed him to stay in her room and then get in her bed.
Anyone know what haircut the captain have from 9:47? This is sad though to be happening in the Marines. But either way Marines are the best fighting forces.
What a shame, ruined lives. Semper Fidelis, USMC Medically Retired Cpl.
It’s sounds like the dude who got extremely drunk and had sexual contact in a Marines room after asking is the victim. The woman took advantage of him
This is why I've ALWAYS....I repeat Always allowed the female to be the assertive one . I've never pursued a female beyond her desire , literally to the point of making sure everything that was happening was her intention. Even when drunk..... Hopefully these folk learn from this horrendous mistake that will be with them their entire lives . I actually no longer drink because of stupid choices I've made while intoxicated . I've fought a cop, well actually egged a cop car then kicked him . How idiotic does that tell you I was... I respect police when I'm sober and appreciate their services . When I sobered up in the back of the car I couldn't believe I did what I did.... I even apologized to the officer , not because I was in cuffs and in the back of his cruiser but because I assaulted a policeman who goes out everyday and has to worry of criminals shooting him , taking his life . Such a stupid mistake I made that night , I literally have lost all desire to drink and was disgusted with myself for kicking that officer . To this day I'm truly sorry to that officer for wasting his time that night . When he's probably faced with danger on a constant day to day basis there is some dumb drunk throwing eggs at his car , only to kick him afterwards . Thank you to all police officers who are true to their motto of protecting and serving their communities... I pray for your safe return home each night and day .
Never fails. The prosecution is always trying to hang another trophy on their wall and the defense is usually spineless. Moral of the story, don’t get drunk... ever. If it wasn’t a traditional date with traditional feelings of emotion and with the full absence of alcohol, then your chance of an investigation goes up exponentially.
And women, before you destroy someone’s life, regret is not rape!
I knew a guy that got caught with CP that he created babysitting other folks kids. I know they took him to the Brig, who knows where he is now.
He's probably somebody's girlfriend now
i never got drunk to this day I was in the marine corps
Lies. Everyone gets drunk in the military.
Mysteries At Lochness You DO realize, there are OTHER branches to the United States Armed Forces....and I bet you they can all drink each other under the table.
bullshit
Well done, my man.
Then you aren't a REAL MARINE !!!
Yep we learned never to stay in a room with a drunk woman in the military it can lead to trouble.
This is going to sky rocket once women hit Infantry... I hope the corps sees this before it's too late.
Jason Harkin I hope so to man. it's bad enough they're in the military... it'll be horrible if they could do infantry... even special forces.
Losman 666 too late now
Wow this sucks. Is military jail worse than regular jail tbh i feel like it is, because of this video im not ever going to drink alcohol.
Total bullshit. I feel for these soldiers. I get there are bad people who do bad things in the military, but the "victims" in these stories... something not right going on. I feel like they shouldn't have to be labeled sex offenders for having sex while drunk(both parties) and no verbal or physical resistance... that's not right.
1:27 I thought it was a joke and they were gonna introduce her as Wooki Cookie"