I'm guessing that sales were dropping off because of the all new Camaro. Lets face it the Alpha based Camaro is objectively a better chassis than the mustang chassis. Styling of course is personal preference, I prefer the styling of the mustang.
Also price per horsepower is irrelevant. Sports cars are measured in performance not which one has the most horsepower, also the subjective fun factor. A 2.5T Cayman will blow the doors off a mustang of much higher HP, that being said I like mustangs. I would like to see Ford downsize the mustang and put it on a diet, they should shoot for the size of an M2. An M2 sized mustang with the 2.7 ecoboost engine would be outstanding.
+Cars, Costs and Technology I've looked at 2018 models online & have yet come across one with the digital display in your video. Does it come with a specific package?
Steve Pounder Screw the packages. Ford should start providing things ala carte. I don't want to get BLIS and Lane keeping just because I want the digital guages or big screen head unit.
You're a great communicator . Do you do seminars as part of your occupation ? Flawless verbal skills and you get your point across eloquently and seemingly without effort . It's definitely a strong suite of yours .
Good video, you seem very unbiased despite the fact you own a corvette. I dig it. Personally, I’d wait a year when the mark up and all that drops down and you’ll pick one up much more decently priced. I’m just not a fan of buying brand new cars but that’s me. As far as between the camaro and mustang, it’s just a matter of taste. The mustangs are equally as proven as the SS when you consider real world numbers around the track.
Wait until the mid-engine corvette comes out and buy a new C7 at rock bottom pricing. The problem with used cars is you might be buying someone else's lemon. If I know the person I'm buying a used car from than no problem but a stranger, ehh.
I think buying used depends on the vehicle. I wouldnt mind buying a used pickup truck thats been certified. But a used sports car/muscle car?.. Can you imagine what the previous owner may have done to that drive train? Proper break in period, wide open, etc.
Drake Dischler I could ever see myself buying brand new unless I was 6 figures in spendable income, car prices are absolutely absurd brand new. If you can’t figure out if a car is in good condition or not, you don’t know enough about it and it’s an impulse buy anyways. You can get it compression checked, hell there’s shit out there that lets you see into the cylinder without opening it up. Btw, WoT is safe in most modern cars, in fact lots of them could rev higher than their redline safely but are tuned for extreme longevity. Things like brakes and suspension will never cost you more than the ridiculous mark up so that’s not viable either.
Drake Dischler I’ve bought both new and used performance cars. Some of the used I bought were c4 vette(6k Miles), LS1 z28(51k Miles), 06 300srt8(12k Miles), c6 vette(69k Miles) that I did heads/cam/ported fast102, stall converter at 88k miles. I’ve had less problems with used vehicles in my 31 yrs of owning cars and bikes than I did with new vehicles I purchased. The least reliable cars I owned were ford/mercury that was purchased new..
It sounds like a muffler delete in full open mode. It’s surprising how loud and raspy it is, which is pretty damn cool for a factory exhaust. Anyone that touches the exhaust other than long tube headers is a fool with more mon y than sense.
Great review... When I was looking to upgrade my '11 Mustang GT, the '18 GT Premium I spec'd out ended up at $50k... I ended up buying a new '17 Corvette Stingray 2LT for about $2k more after all the rebates and special discounts... Since I plan to keep it for several years, the "old model year" wasn't an issue, and the '18 'vettes were unchanged from the '17. IMO I got far more car for the dollar, and one that was designed from the ground up for performance and handling. Ford has not done themselves any favors by increasing the price for '18.
I dont think that Motor Trend comparison was fair. The 1le is a pure track package. The Gt track pkg is really more of a sport pkg for the street. It would compare very well the a regular ss with magnaride. The gt Track Pkg2 which is coming out is the one you should compare to the 1LE. Just my opinion....
Didnt say anything about price. And ya depending how you equip it it can be more expensive but still in the same ball park. Again the 1le should be compared to the second performance pkg. The standard performance pkg compares very well to the standard camaro with magnaride. Both cars are awsome in my opinion. However the 10speed will smoke them all on the street
Steven Kraus i know u didny say abything bout price thats why am reminding u tgat even at the "lower" perf pack it was already more expensive abd wats worst i still think the 1le will beat the perf pack level 2, sorry camaro got this gen on lock no other way about it. and i am a s550 mustang owner.
The 1le doesn't win in unbiased tests against the gt performance pack 1, it will get wrecked by the pp2. Then again the test has to be unbiased, which they will never do.
You can now get a 2021 Camaro LT1 trim with a LT1 engine V8 455 horsepower for 34,000 dollars. About $75 per horsepower. Good luck finding one on a lot though, you will probably have to ask the dealer to order it.
My 2018GT is fully loaded with Magne-Ride, Upgrade sound, lane keep assist, blind spot, GT performance . Yes, the MSRP was over 50K but I was able to get mine for 47k. Just shop around if you seriously looking for one. There are deals to be had.
Thanks for the video. Having owned a C7 and looking at the '18 GT, I can appreciate your review. Happy to hear insurance premiums are moderate, I always thought both the Corvette I owned were relatively cheap to insure.
NICE review. It's great that Ford offers many options AND PACKAGES for this car as it offers you the opportunity to get EXACTLY what you want for your budget. I've never bought a new car and been this HAPPY and TOTALLY SATISIFIED! EXCELLENT JOB TO FORD. By the way, "Jess Ford" in Grand Coulee,Wa. throws in a "WARRANTY FOR LIFE"..... FOR FREE!!
A brilliant review! As a Swede, we only have the Magneride and alarm as an option. Most cars are already specced with the performance pack as Ford Sweden thought no one would want the car without those options. We have “custom pack 1” with silver rims and more chrome, and “Custom pack 2” with blacked out rims and windows etc. oh, and you can order the Recaros as well, but not many seems to do that. The rest of the car is the same level as your “Premium plus” as it’s not possible to get the car with cloth seats I think. Anyway, great and informative review!
Great Video. I pretty much agree with all of your points. I am one of those that did buy a '17 GT Premium. I didn't get it spec'd out with every available option but it is very nicely equipped. The '18 is faster and has some additional features I would like to have. With that said, an '18 spec'd as close to my '17 as I could get it was still $6000.00 more expensive. Since I am never going to take it to the track and there is no public street where I live that I can safely and legally drive it or any other muscle car to it's performance limits it came down to price I was willing to pay and personal preference. I just like Mustangs. :)
My current dilemma is an😮 interesting one, but I made my decision today. I had to choose between a 61 k 2016 C7 Z06 Vette or a 2019 ten speed 5.0 Mustang for 40 k. Ultimately I decided the Ford Mustang is the better choice for several reasons, one of them being for about 3 to 5 k in mods and tune my ten speed 5.0 will actually be faster than the Z06 and I'm still saving 15k! The Ford 5 liter V8's are the most responsive engines mods and tuning compared to their competitors. A ten speed 5.0 Mustang is budget super car and that's just a fact.
Even after seeing one in person, I'm not sure how I feel about the facelift, everything else looks to be fantastic though 👌, especially in that grey. What I'd REALLY like to see would be Lincoln building a Super GT on this same platform. That would just be perfection. Regardless, fantastic video as always! 👍
I love Mustangs because there the best sports cars in the world i own a supercharged 2017 GT and i wouldn't swap it for any other car and guess what I'm a 92 which makes me 25 years old just like you man.
Great review and very professional unbias analysis of this GT Mustang coming from a corvette owner. I have my '18 in the exact same color/specs as you just with the 10 speed auto instead and continue to be amazed by it! Keep up the good video reviews work👍
That new Mustang in that color and options does look very good and seems like a great performer. Always buy a Mustang GT used for much less. Makes no sense to pay 50 plus thousand for a GT when you can get a used GT350 for less
falchulk I’ve bought used performance cars with zero issues(c4 vette, c6 vette, 300 srt8, LS1 camaro) . Some had as many as 69k miles when purchased and then I proceeded to do heads/cam/ported FAST102, stall converter. If you like to mod like I do, it’s dumb to buy new and void a warranty when modding. Plus you save a shit ton to put into mods like supercharger, heads/cam, full exhaust, track wheels/tires etc.
falchulk I’m sure there are plenty of horror stories but going by my experience and two of my friends who bought multiple 06 gto’s and a 93 twin turbo rx7 they too have been trouble free. The LS family of engines and coyote motors are pretty bulletproof as well as the transmissions. The 4l60 e trans was a bit weak so that was my main concern buying high mileage 99 z28. The positive is if you save 10 grand buying used its a lot of money In case something breaks you can upgrade to a built trans, rear diff etc. I agree it is a crap shoot though and you can get burned if it’s a money pit/lemon vehicle. I would be terrified to buy a used turbo or hi performance euro import.
falchulk all those web vids of people beating on perf cars definitely doesn’t give used car buyers any comfort. Lol A major concern for me are the ones who put a nitrous kit on their car, race the hell out of it, then return it to stock before selling. I try to look for signs of a previous bottle mount or possible engine bay signs. At least used corvettes are usually owned by old guys like me only most of the other old owners don’t mod them.
The 18 Mustang needs more tire. Ford should make the 305 square tires from the performance pack 2 standard on the performance pack 1. The PP2 18' Mustang is the only Mustang GT capable of taking down the SS 1LE; unfortunately I haven't seen any major tests of it yet so I guess we'll have to wait. GIVE IT SOME PUBLICITY FORD!
Such a great review! The V8 is the most fun you can have in a Mustang, but I do more driving through curvy roads, and I wonder if it is really so bad to have the ecoboost? I loved driving the V8 but it was definitely much heavier in the corners
I agree that once you get into the $50k range, it can get kinda iffy with buying a car like this. You’d have to be absolutely sure that you want a Mustang 100%. Otherwise, it makes you wonder whether you could get something else for the money, like a Stingray Corvette for example. As usual, very solid review. I liked the breakdown, especially the horsepower per dollar analysis. The new 2018 is definitely a big improvement over the outgoing 2017 model, and I will say that its new look has grown on me.
+dannySRT6.4 Thanks man 👍 Same here. I wasn't really a fan when I saw the initial pictures and videos online, but this thing actually looks pretty mean in person.
People don't buy cars by horsepower per dollar. I have owned 26 cars in my life time and I have never purchased any of my sports cars based upon this. I think its priced a little high with minimal options. You can get a very low mileage GT 350 for the same price of a decently optioned brand new 2018 GT.
This is really good the things you brought up like the insurance costs are important & I usually daily my sports cars so tires is another cost I look into also!
YOU did NOT discuss WHY FORD added direct & port fuel injection to the Coyote motor. Care to go into this extremely important change??? Can you say eliminating carbon build up on the intake valves?
Philip Rosenthale every direct port fuel injections builds up carbon, some do it hell of fast and some slow. Even on a Lexus you need to clean up that build. So for me its a big no no. This will bring only headaches!
I love the mustang and corvette these were my 2 favorite ever since i was a kid always has been and still is. But for a daily driver and dealing with traffic i had to go for the mustamg ecoboost and i enjoy the convertible ! Love it the ecoboosy doesnt sound as good as the v8s but the turbo sounds like a cool diesel truck 😮 but in the futute i will pass this along to my wife and by myself a corvette stingray 🙂
Another great video. I'm actively in the market and deciding whether to get a mustang or a camaro, or maybe go the extra money and buy a stingray. This video really gave me some information for that. A stock mustang that runs an 11-second quarter mile right off the showroom floor! Wow!
Yea loved the intro as well...what editing software do u use?...least u got a big parking lot to keep that mustang from hitting anything lol(based on tire marks)
Mustangs will always be America's favorite muscle car! Look is pretty simple if you got driving skills buy a Mustang if you are looking for a car to mask your shortcomings then buy a Camaro. Mustang is a lot more fun I driven both. Camaro is more stable Mustang is more fun. Done
Despite obvious sales numbers the Chevy mullets will still argue that government motors builds a superior car. Mullet wearing, Pushrod V8 driving, transformer decals having, fuzzy dice and gas foot pedals... heartbeat of merica, man!
Yeah, the Camaro is a superior chassis to the mustang. The pushrod thing is true pretty dated but its hard to argue the power to weight of said antique. Its kind of amazing what GM is able to get out of this old design. The funny thing is from an engineering stand point GM's V6 is actually a superior engine to the V8. Of course the baddest V8 on the planet is the AMG 4.0T, got to love it.
Matt Hartup the mustang outsells camaro by a good margin because of all the secretaries and aerobic instructors who buy v6 versions. No disrespect but mustangs always appealed to women drivers much more so than camaro, going back several gens. How often do you see women driving camaros vs mustangs. I very rarely ever see women driving camaros. I even seen pensioner women driving mustangs that I never have seen driving any gen camaro.
+Puttnutt24 Haha 😂 I didn't want to sound biased, but yes anything around that price range certainly warrants a look at some entry level Corvettes. Thanks for the feedback 👍
For 55k you could get a C6 ZR1 or really nice C6Z06 with money left over to go to mods. I'd def get a corvette over a mustang for 55k maybe even a c5Z and c6Z
I bought a 2012 GT500 in 2011. I had the Goodyear Eagles. When I wore them out, I put on a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports. When I wore THEM out, I bought a set of Continental Extreme Contact DWs. When I wear THEM out, guess what they're going to be replaced by. Another set of Continentals. They are WAY better than the other two. I've got more than 10k miles on them, and they're better than the Goodyears and Michelins were when they were new.
As always Robert, you provide so many talking points and so little space/time to comment. 😂 If I wasn't the "Man of Few Words" I'd be very upset. 😂 This vid is just another example of an amazing amalgamation of sight👍, sound👍 and content.👍 1. Interesting that the Mustang incorporates the dual fuel system like the new ZR1. Do you have any idea what such a system provides in the way of additional horse power and/or add'l or less gas mileage? Has the Camaro or Challenger also incorporated such a system? 2. Maybe I missed it, but would you tell us what the weight is of each of the three vehicles. 3. Just a suggestion, but maybe consider for a future vid visiting some engine builders and/or tuners and explore what can be accomplished from just an install of a simple basic performance air element to full bolt-on options, as well as pros/cons of a lap top tune versus a full dyno tune. 4. Off topic, but what are your thoughts as to whether or not the new ZR1 will go sub-seven minutes on The Ring? 5. Any possibility of you doing a live stream in the future? Thank you for the time and effort you put into your videos. The videography is as seamless as the shifting of the 10-speed transmissions. 😂 Save the Wave.
+Peter Carey As always, thank you for the support and great feedback 👍 1. I know it hasn't been implemented on the Camaro yet. If the rumored new Z28 comes with the LT5 then it will 👍 The Challenger has SO many engine options available, but I don't think that any of them utilize a dual fuel delivery system. From what I understand, it was introduced on the LT5 to help serve the additional fuel that the ZR1 needs over the single direct injection of the LT1 and LT4. 2. The Camaro is the lightest of the group 👍 Followed by the Mustang and then the Challenger. 3. That would be cool 👍 I'm guilty of being a warranty warrior lol. I've never modified my vehicles with even basic bolt ons. 4. Based on the numbers at VIR I think it's very probable! 5. 🤔 Not sure... I think it's a great tool for sharing news at exploring a car show. No editing at all makes me a little nervous though lol. Love the analogy with the 10 speed auto lol 😂 Thanks for the kind words.
Thanks for your replies. As to your reply on Point No. 3, if you think you may sell your C7 in the not too distant future, by all means, leave it alone, at least mechanically. But . . . yep, always a "but." lol BUT if you don't envision selling for awhile, consider a few more ponies. I would venture to say that the smile on your face may just increase a few centimeters. 😂 Plus, selfishly, I know you research and do your homework, so I'm curious as to what you would come up with. Just food for thought.
Legitimate question please answer anyone that knows... At minute 15:20 in the video, it shows different size tires bc it has the performance pack. Can i put the same sized tires on all four corners? If not, why? If no, is it bc it's different rim sizes for the front and rear. LEGITIMATE QUESTION. Ive been wondering this since Ive been debating on whether or not to pull the trigger on GT.
jc50gt different wheel sizes on the front and back. The front has 19x9 inch wheels with 255/40/19 and rear has 19x9.5 inch wheels with 275/40/19. You could technically put 275s on the front but it might be a clearance issue.
Exactly one month after this video the 2018 Mustang GT performance Pack 2 model was released and is much more capable on a road course just like the 1LE, so you might want to do a follow-up video because it's all changed now. The Camaro SS 1LE is definitely not that much better than a 2018 Mustang GT as everyone said it was when it was compared to the Performance Pack 1. The funny thing is everyone doing videos like this already knew in May exactly one month after this video was put on TH-cam that the performance Pack 2 would be available for testing for everybody. Don't act like you didn't know LOL.
So with your sales comment; you're going to completely ignore the Camaro was completely designed for 2016 AND yet sales dropped? Realistically, the market for Mustangs / Camaro's / Challenger is only so big, and like all business has a cycle. Also I'd pontificate that each car's cycle is different from the other's with the Challenger having the least overlap if at all with the Camaro and Mustang. In my opinion the redesign of the next generation Camaro is sink or swim - or live or die for it and if GM has sense they'll figure out how to return to the interior dimensions of the Zeta car. Hopefully both Ford and GM now understand, performance is not the biggest attraction to these cars. If there are two sales influencers above others; I'd say exterior style and interior livability, performance really is not a significant factor as consistently the best performing variants - other than the GT350 are the worst sellers. For example for all the hoopla of the 1LE just 4% of Camaro's sold are 1LE's. To put that in perspective; 8% of Mustangs sold are GT350's therefore in reality any time a 1LE actually makes it to a track there is likely to be at least twice as many GT350's present. So comparing a 1LE to a base GT with a PP1 or PP2 is not realistic, and the ZL1 - do they actually sell those? My bet is all ZL1 owners are GM employees unless they are giving them away.
Great video, Robert. I agree, a loaded GT would be the way to go. The good news is that Ford has a LOT of room to move price-wise on most of their lines, Mustangs included. My advice to anyone looking to get into one of these would be to shop, and then shop, and then shop around some more. You'll eventually find a dealer willing to work with you and put you into a GT for far below sticker.
It's subjective but the C7 looks better, sounds better and is more fun to drive. The biggest advantage the stang has over it's competitors is the coyote's ability to handle bigger power reliably. For me, the GT stang would need to be premium and PP1 as the base has that lame little 4 inch screen and terrible base tires/handling...
Thanks for the feedback 👍🏻 My channel was started as just a Corvette channel, and about a year ago I decided to go drive and review some other model cars that are often compared to Corvettes. I originally intended to just share my thoughts with other Corvette enthusiasts, but the review videos started circulating around TH-cam to all types of car enthusiasts.
Nice video, I own a 2016 race red, o51 package, v6, manual transmission, 23600.00 out the door, 26000 miles, no issues, no regrets, still not bored with it,
This car hits so many marks. It actually is good In corners has power and is affordable. No wonder they sell so many. I want one but it's just not practical at this time.
omg if those Mustang were available with a nice SUNROOF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its a must have for me and i drove cars now over 25 years only with a Sunroof and i save so much AC days in a year !
Carlos Finch haha it truly is, I’ve sold 9 cars while buying 3 and a boat on auto trader and boat trader respectively. I’ll b e keeping my eye out as used ones start to hit Autotrader.
Nice fucking intro bro! Soundtrack was on point, camera angles , fade outs, everything ! Definitely liked and subscribed and you helped me choose the color I’m going to get!
SJC Cobra there are a few in SE WI in the 33-38 range with leather but otherwise more of a stripper besides the 3:55. The dealership that had some under 35k may be playing pricing games and try to get you with added back end and destination fee bs.
I'm just if you can you get that 460 on 91 pump gas or did they rate it at 93? It does matter not a whole lot but I can't find where it's stated that 91 makes the top hp...either on this stang or our C7s
I've seen the thumbnails for your videos for a while. I bought a 17 Mustang GT, a car I've been dreaming of owning since 1987 when I was 13. I consistently scrolled by your videos because, while not a "Ford" guy, I do prefer the Mustang over the similar offerings of the other companies. I always figured the videos were going to be a Chevy guy saying "this thing sux compared to my Vette" and your videos would just be a Chevy guy bashing a car I waited 30 years to get. BOY WAS I WRONG. You're videos seem to be very unbiased and an honest and very thorough review. Now a new subscriber. I do like your Corvette which will be my next car. BTW I had to wait 30 years because in NYC insurance companies laughed at me at 18, 25, wanted crazy money @30, and FINALLY deemed me responsible at 43 lol. Look forward to your upcoming content. Oh, I ordered a Procharger D1x kit for the Mustang yesterday. If only the insurance company knew lmao.
How does the Corvette and Mustang do on top end? I read that the 2017 Mustang could out run the Camaro on top end. To be honest I am not a 0 to 60 or a quarter mile person when it comes to speed and times. Top end is where it matters for me. Btw I have a 2017 Mustang GT and I am enjoying it but am thinking about trading it for the 18 Mustang GT.
they should have kept the V6 for budget minded folks,ecoboost is way less reliable . I own a 5.0 and love it. My biggest complaint is fit and finish,its as bad as a KIA
You missed or got a lot of info wrong. The 2018 Mustang auto does 12.2@116. A GT350R does 12 flat at 117mph. And, no magazine has yet to do a proper apples to apples test with Camaro or Chally. It's always an automatic vs manual.
Different sources will have different times posted depending on the conditions. All sources used for the comparison in this video are linked in the description. They're accurate numbers. I'm not disagreeing with you about the manual vs. auto comparisons, but that doesn't mean that the numbers are wrong. Check out the description for more details 👍🏻
Agree that getting more of a base model with a few options is the way to go. The $2200 premium plus package with the digital dash would be nice but not needed. Unless the new B&O sound system in the 2019's are better than the "Shaker audio" . Even then the stock dash is just fine, has all the cool read outs on performance etc. Don't need NAV as the phone can do all that. I don't even think you need the performance package. And if you can do with out leather one can find a GT non-premium that still has all the guts of a race car for about 32k. New. The 2018's will be heavily discounted now that the 2019's are rolling in.
Don't forget you'll get factory incentives and xplan pricing off the bat when buying a Ford. Just like we learned with our 2017 escape 39 sticker 31 sales price... but it lasted 7000 miles and it's been on a lift at the dealer with a failed transmission for 2 weeks now. I also own a C6 corvette I bought new and a 2016 BMW 340i purchased new. GM nor Ford will ever get my money again regardless of how much one of their products entices me.
The C7 ZR1 is using the lessons learned and the concept of port and direct Injection from Ford on the 2018 Mustang gt. Dir ft Injection was primarily invented to improve fuel economy, and not a good thing when adding DI alone, to high hp applications.
I may be nit-picking here, but I am still waiting for an option for a sunroof. I am a Chevy Man anyway and have decided on either Camaro builds on 2SS, 2SS 1LE, or a ZL1, and all have the option for a sunroof. I can't live without the sunroof because I haven't since 1996, and use it 12 months a year. I'd like to know how many feel the same way by replies to this comment since Ford seems to be convinced that it is not a viable option. Thanks, Cappy.
If you spend 60% or more of your time on the track, then get the 1LE. It's made for the track, not the street. It'll serve you no puron the street, other than a very harsh ride. Also, GM is still using direct Injection which is not a good idea on high perfappkixations, and is causing heat and other driveability issues in Cam and vetted.
I probably would have bought a newer Mustang 5.0 IF it had a sunroof. I've had a sunroof for several decades now... I can't stand the looks of the Camaro, and Challengers are a dime a dozen THOUGH both of those can come with sunroofs...
I'm sold on the new mustang's looks so much that I ordered an orange fury performance pack. The Vette is a nice car and I like them. But they suck getting in and out, and there's some things on the Vette that look plain goofy...for instance that brace on the front grill and that stupid stingray on the side. People have referred to it as a sperm...and from some angles...that wheel base looks so long that it gives a strange look.
Yeah, driver position is better on both the mustang and camaro. The truth is sporty coupes are more livable than full blown sports cars. The main problem of sporty coupes is consistently that they are heavy.
Originally the concept of the mustang was to take a small economy car and put a strong engine in it. They have gone pretty far from that concept, infact I would say my GTI or a WRX are closer to the original concept.
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I'm guessing that sales were dropping off because of the all new Camaro. Lets face it the Alpha based Camaro is objectively a better chassis than the mustang chassis. Styling of course is personal preference, I prefer the styling of the mustang.
Also price per horsepower is irrelevant. Sports cars are measured in performance not which one has the most horsepower, also the subjective fun factor. A 2.5T Cayman will blow the doors off a mustang of much higher HP, that being said I like mustangs. I would like to see Ford downsize the mustang and put it on a diet, they should shoot for the size of an M2. An M2 sized mustang with the 2.7 ecoboost engine would be outstanding.
I don't consider the challanger a competitor, its a land yacht.
You don't need to make a video to justify driving a mustang ok. We all know you secretly love them so next time just go do it. Lol
+Cars, Costs and Technology I've looked at 2018 models online & have yet come across one with the digital display in your video. Does it come with a specific package?
*Jan 2018 Sales*
*2,867 Camaro*
*4,732 Mustang*
Keith Johnson - Shelby GT500 that’s not relevant
This is mustang vs corvette sorry you can’t beat the corvette so you pick on the little brother they don’t care about.
You sound very mature and professional for 25 years old. Very well done video and channel.
Thank you!
I think Ford should settle down on some of their package costs.
Steve Pounder
Screw the packages. Ford should start providing things ala carte. I don't want to get BLIS and Lane keeping just because I want the digital guages or big screen head unit.
USA, USA, USA! American cars are back. I love mustangs, cameros and challengers.
That's it, keep your mind open to all of them. After all, American Muscle is AMERICAN MUSCLE!
Brian Smith I wholeheartedly agree brother. American muscle is the only muscle, no matter the make, they're all red white and blue!! 🇺🇲
Both cars a drop dead gorgeous...I love what American cars have become
+Amound Lemon Same here 👍 There are so many excellent options to choose from right now!
But, sadly, for how long? Once again we are at the mercy of politicians making decisions for us!
@@JohnCapizolaSr714 well lets not let then we have the power not them!
You're a great communicator . Do you do seminars as part of your occupation ? Flawless verbal skills and you get your point across eloquently and seemingly without effort . It's definitely a strong suite of yours .
Thank you! I really appreciate the feedback 👍🏻 My job does involve a lot of one on one communication with clients, but no public speaking.
Good video, you seem very unbiased despite the fact you own a corvette. I dig it. Personally, I’d wait a year when the mark up and all that drops down and you’ll pick one up much more decently priced. I’m just not a fan of buying brand new cars but that’s me. As far as between the camaro and mustang, it’s just a matter of taste. The mustangs are equally as proven as the SS when you consider real world numbers around the track.
Wait until the mid-engine corvette comes out and buy a new C7 at rock bottom pricing. The problem with used cars is you might be buying someone else's lemon. If I know the person I'm buying a used car from than no problem but a stranger, ehh.
I think buying used depends on the vehicle. I wouldnt mind buying a used pickup truck thats been certified. But a used sports car/muscle car?.. Can you imagine what the previous owner may have done to that drive train? Proper break in period, wide open, etc.
Drake Dischler I could ever see myself buying brand new unless I was 6 figures in spendable income, car prices are absolutely absurd brand new. If you can’t figure out if a car is in good condition or not, you don’t know enough about it and it’s an impulse buy anyways. You can get it compression checked, hell there’s shit out there that lets you see into the cylinder without opening it up. Btw, WoT is safe in most modern cars, in fact lots of them could rev higher than their redline safely but are tuned for extreme longevity. Things like brakes and suspension will never cost you more than the ridiculous mark up so that’s not viable either.
Drake Dischler I’ve bought both new and used performance cars. Some of the used I bought were c4 vette(6k Miles), LS1 z28(51k Miles), 06 300srt8(12k Miles), c6 vette(69k Miles) that I did heads/cam/ported fast102, stall converter at 88k miles. I’ve had less problems with used vehicles in my 31 yrs of owning cars and bikes than I did with new vehicles I purchased. The least reliable cars I owned were ford/mercury that was purchased new..
The Mustang GT has evolved into quiet a monster, from the 15sec sn95 90s Mustang GT to the new 11sec Mustang GT we have today.
I thought the C7 Corvette exhaust sounded good but the 2018 Mustang with active exhaust sounded really, really good!
+S2kDude36 It sounds pretty mean in person 👌 I was actually surprised how loud it is!
It sounds like a muffler delete in full open mode. It’s surprising how loud and raspy it is, which is pretty damn cool for a factory exhaust. Anyone that touches the exhaust other than long tube headers is a fool with more mon y than sense.
I like your honesty, Great review, I just bought this exact car picking it up tomorrow morning.....yay! 😎🏁
Thanks 👍 Congrats on your new Mustang!
I was so close getting a 15, I'm glad I waited! 460hp was worth the wait.
Great review...
When I was looking to upgrade my '11 Mustang GT, the '18 GT Premium I spec'd out ended up at $50k... I ended up buying a new '17 Corvette Stingray 2LT for about $2k more after all the rebates and special discounts... Since I plan to keep it for several years, the "old model year" wasn't an issue, and the '18 'vettes were unchanged from the '17.
IMO I got far more car for the dollar, and one that was designed from the ground up for performance and handling. Ford has not done themselves any favors by increasing the price for '18.
I dont think that Motor Trend comparison was fair. The 1le is a pure track package. The Gt track pkg is really more of a sport pkg for the street. It would compare very well the a regular ss with magnaride. The gt Track Pkg2 which is coming out is the one you should compare to the 1LE. Just my opinion....
Chevy paid for that test because Camaro sales are so poor
bro the gt was more expensive, regardless the camaro not only beat it but whoped it!
Didnt say anything about price. And ya depending how you equip it it can be more expensive but still in the same ball park. Again the 1le should be compared to the second performance pkg. The standard performance pkg compares very well to the standard camaro with magnaride. Both cars are awsome in my opinion. However the 10speed will smoke them all on the street
Steven Kraus i know u didny say abything bout price thats why am reminding u tgat even at the "lower" perf pack it was already more expensive abd wats worst i still think the 1le will beat the perf pack level 2, sorry camaro got this gen on lock no other way about it. and i am a s550 mustang owner.
The 1le doesn't win in unbiased tests against the gt performance pack 1, it will get wrecked by the pp2. Then again the test has to be unbiased, which they will never do.
You can now get a 2021 Camaro LT1 trim with a LT1 engine V8 455 horsepower for 34,000 dollars.
About $75 per horsepower.
Good luck finding one on a lot though, you will probably have to ask the dealer to order it.
My 2018GT is fully loaded with Magne-Ride, Upgrade sound, lane keep assist, blind spot, GT performance . Yes, the MSRP was over 50K but I was able to get mine for 47k. Just shop around if you seriously looking for one. There are deals to be had.
Joseph Dempsey Lebanon ford performance sells them around 32k internet price and 40k for the 800hp whipple mustang
Damn I'm 25 too insurance looks alright
Love your style with your videos very informative keep up the good work!!
+Michael Olandese Thank you Michael 👍
Thanks for the video. Having owned a C7 and looking at the '18 GT, I can appreciate your review. Happy to hear insurance premiums are moderate, I always thought both the Corvette I owned were relatively cheap to insure.
Thanks for the feedback 👍 I'm glad that you enjoyed the review!
NICE review. It's great that Ford offers many options AND PACKAGES for this car as it offers you the opportunity to get EXACTLY what you want for your budget. I've never bought a new car and been this HAPPY and TOTALLY SATISIFIED! EXCELLENT JOB TO FORD.
By the way, "Jess Ford" in Grand Coulee,Wa. throws in a "WARRANTY FOR LIFE"..... FOR FREE!!
A brilliant review! As a Swede, we only have the Magneride and alarm as an option. Most cars are already specced with the performance pack as Ford Sweden thought no one would want the car without those options. We have “custom pack 1” with silver rims and more chrome, and “Custom pack 2” with blacked out rims and windows etc. oh, and you can order the Recaros as well, but not many seems to do that. The rest of the car is the same level as your “Premium plus” as it’s not possible to get the car with cloth seats I think.
Anyway, great and informative review!
Great Video. I pretty much agree with all of your points. I am one of those that did buy a '17 GT Premium. I didn't get it spec'd out with every available option but it is very nicely equipped. The '18 is faster and has some additional features I would like to have. With that said, an '18 spec'd as close to my '17 as I could get it was still $6000.00 more expensive. Since I am never going to take it to the track and there is no public street where I live that I can safely and legally drive it or any other muscle car to it's performance limits it came down to price I was willing to pay and personal preference. I just like Mustangs. :)
Well thought out and informative review. Very unbiased and covered all aspects of car ownership which is rare and awesome. Thumbs up!!!!!
I got my 2017 Ford Focus for $12,000 after rebates! That's $75/HP!
That intro was dope !
+Cristopher Orellana Thank you 👍
Anyone who would pay full sticker for ANY new car is a sucker. Great and honest review!
Which car do you prefer? I’m stuck between the mustang gt and a used stingray
My current dilemma is an😮 interesting one, but I made my decision today. I had to choose between a 61 k 2016 C7 Z06 Vette or a 2019 ten speed 5.0 Mustang for 40 k. Ultimately I decided the Ford Mustang is the better choice for several reasons, one of them being for about 3 to 5 k in mods and tune my ten speed 5.0 will actually be faster than the Z06 and I'm still saving 15k! The Ford 5 liter V8's are the most responsive engines mods and tuning compared to their competitors. A ten speed 5.0 Mustang is budget super car and that's just a fact.
Even after seeing one in person, I'm not sure how I feel about the facelift, everything else looks to be fantastic though 👌, especially in that grey. What I'd REALLY like to see would be Lincoln building a Super GT on this same platform. That would just be perfection. Regardless, fantastic video as always! 👍
I love Mustangs because there the best sports cars in the world i own a supercharged 2017 GT and i wouldn't swap it for any other car and guess what I'm a 92 which makes me 25 years old just like you man.
Great review and very professional unbias analysis of this GT Mustang coming from a corvette owner. I have my '18 in the exact same color/specs as you just with the 10 speed auto instead and continue to be amazed by it! Keep up the good video reviews work👍
+Jeremy Mendoza It's an impressive car for sure! Thanks for watching and taking time leave some positive feedback 👍
Yup, nice to see a review that is analytical and not fan boy.
That new Mustang in that color and options does look very good and seems like a great performer. Always buy a Mustang GT used for much less. Makes no sense to pay 50 plus thousand for a GT when you can get a used GT350 for less
+Charles Hosea Good point! Thanks for the feedback 👍
Charles Hosea well said. But these younger guys will be dumb and buy it with high interest rate just to be current.
falchulk I’ve bought used performance cars with zero issues(c4 vette, c6 vette, 300 srt8, LS1 camaro) . Some had as many as 69k miles when purchased and then I proceeded to do heads/cam/ported FAST102, stall converter. If you like to mod like I do, it’s dumb to buy new and void a warranty when modding. Plus you save a shit ton to put into mods like supercharger, heads/cam, full exhaust, track wheels/tires etc.
falchulk I’m sure there are plenty of horror stories but going by my experience and two of my friends who bought multiple 06 gto’s and a 93 twin turbo rx7 they too have been trouble free. The LS family of engines and coyote motors are pretty bulletproof as well as the transmissions. The 4l60 e trans was a bit weak so that was my main concern buying high mileage 99 z28. The positive is if you save 10 grand buying used its a lot of money In case something breaks you can upgrade to a built trans, rear diff etc.
I agree it is a crap shoot though and you can get burned if it’s a money pit/lemon vehicle. I would be terrified to buy a used turbo or hi performance euro import.
falchulk all those web vids of people beating on perf cars definitely doesn’t give used car buyers any comfort. Lol
A major concern for me are the ones who put a nitrous kit on their car, race the hell out of it, then return it to stock before selling. I try to look for signs of a previous bottle mount or possible engine bay signs. At least used corvettes are usually owned by old guys like me only most of the other old owners don’t mod them.
The 18 Mustang needs more tire. Ford should make the 305 square tires from the performance pack 2 standard on the performance pack 1. The PP2 18' Mustang is the only Mustang GT capable of taking down the SS 1LE; unfortunately I haven't seen any major tests of it yet so I guess we'll have to wait. GIVE IT SOME PUBLICITY FORD!
Such a great review! The V8 is the most fun you can have in a Mustang, but I do more driving through curvy roads, and I wonder if it is really so bad to have the ecoboost? I loved driving the V8 but it was definitely much heavier in the corners
I agree that once you get into the $50k range, it can get kinda iffy with buying a car like this. You’d have to be absolutely sure that you want a Mustang 100%. Otherwise, it makes you wonder whether you could get something else for the money, like a Stingray Corvette for example. As usual, very solid review. I liked the breakdown, especially the horsepower per dollar analysis. The new 2018 is definitely a big improvement over the outgoing 2017 model, and I will say that its new look has grown on me.
+dannySRT6.4 Thanks man 👍 Same here. I wasn't really a fan when I saw the initial pictures and videos online, but this thing actually looks pretty mean in person.
YEah, 55k and I'm probably looking at the M2 or Cayman.
@@jeffk464 for 55 I’d look at gt500 lls
Mustang is beautiful and that 5 liter sounds great but that corvette is definitely not left behind
People don't buy cars by horsepower per dollar. I have owned 26 cars in my life time and I have never purchased any of my sports cars based upon this. I think its priced a little high with minimal options. You can get a very low mileage GT 350 for the same price of a decently optioned brand new 2018 GT.
This is really good the things you brought up like the insurance costs are important & I usually daily my sports cars so tires is another cost I look into also!
I personally do not like sunroof on this type of vehicle (not the Mustang GT nor the Camaro SS)
YOU did NOT discuss WHY FORD added direct & port fuel injection to the Coyote motor. Care to go into this extremely important change???
Can you say eliminating carbon build up on the intake valves?
Philip Rosenthale every direct port fuel injections builds up carbon, some do it hell of fast and some slow. Even on a Lexus you need to clean up that build. So for me its a big no no. This will bring only headaches!
I love the mustang and corvette these were my 2 favorite ever since i was a kid always has been and still is. But for a daily driver and dealing with traffic i had to go for the mustamg ecoboost and i enjoy the convertible ! Love it the ecoboosy doesnt sound as good as the v8s but the turbo sounds like a cool diesel truck 😮 but in the futute i will pass this along to my wife and by myself a corvette stingray 🙂
Great review bro 👍🏾
+JustDoMuah Thank you!
Another great video. I'm actively in the market and deciding whether to get a mustang or a camaro, or maybe go the extra money and buy a stingray. This video really gave me some information for that. A stock mustang that runs an 11-second quarter mile right off the showroom floor! Wow!
Yea loved the intro as well...what editing software do u use?...least u got a big parking lot to keep that mustang from hitting anything lol(based on tire marks)
+Backyard Chevy Lol nice 😂 I use Premiere Pro 👍
Mustangs will always be America's favorite muscle car! Look is pretty simple if you got driving skills buy a Mustang if you are looking for a car to mask your shortcomings then buy a Camaro. Mustang is a lot more fun I driven both. Camaro is more stable Mustang is more fun. Done
This was a great review, very informative!
I have had both, now have a 2017 Grand Sport Vette.
No comparision, the Vette is in another league.
End of this year. Looking to finally pick one up.
Despite obvious sales numbers the Chevy mullets will still argue that government motors builds a superior car. Mullet wearing, Pushrod V8 driving, transformer decals having, fuzzy dice and gas foot pedals... heartbeat of merica, man!
+Matt Hartup Lol 😂
Matt Hartup That's funny!
Yeah, the Camaro is a superior chassis to the mustang. The pushrod thing is true pretty dated but its hard to argue the power to weight of said antique. Its kind of amazing what GM is able to get out of this old design. The funny thing is from an engineering stand point GM's V6 is actually a superior engine to the V8. Of course the baddest V8 on the planet is the AMG 4.0T, got to love it.
Matt Hartup the mustang outsells camaro by a good margin because of all the secretaries and aerobic instructors who buy v6 versions. No disrespect but mustangs always appealed to women drivers much more so than camaro, going back several gens. How often do you see women driving camaros vs mustangs. I very rarely ever see women driving camaros. I even seen pensioner women driving mustangs that I never have seen driving any gen camaro.
Good review.
Although you would not say it, I will, for 55k, I’d much rather have a Corvette!
+Puttnutt24 Haha 😂 I didn't want to sound biased, but yes anything around that price range certainly warrants a look at some entry level Corvettes. Thanks for the feedback 👍
Puttnutt24 for $46k, you can get a Camaro 1LE. For $49k, you get the upgraded 2SS 1LE...$55k is a lot of money for a Mustang GT.
Truth is entry level Corvettes probably make better daily drivers than high end corvettes.
Or a BMW M4
For 55k you could get a C6 ZR1 or really nice C6Z06 with money left over to go to mods. I'd def get a corvette over a mustang for 55k maybe even a c5Z and c6Z
I bought a 2012 GT500 in 2011. I had the Goodyear Eagles. When I wore them out, I put on a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports. When I wore THEM out, I bought a set of Continental Extreme Contact DWs. When I wear THEM out, guess what they're going to be replaced by. Another set of Continentals. They are WAY better than the other two. I've got more than 10k miles on them, and they're better than the Goodyears and Michelins were when they were new.
Denys A the dw and dws are excellent all around tires. They are very popular in the challenger and charger community.
yeah right, you can spec a Camaro for 50,000 too so is there a real difference?
As always Robert, you provide so many talking points and so little space/time to comment. 😂 If I wasn't the "Man of Few Words" I'd be very upset. 😂 This vid is just another example of an amazing amalgamation of sight👍, sound👍 and content.👍
1. Interesting that the Mustang incorporates the dual fuel system like the new ZR1. Do you have any idea what such a system provides in the way of additional horse power and/or add'l or less gas mileage? Has the Camaro or Challenger also incorporated such a system?
2. Maybe I missed it, but would you tell us what the weight is of each of the three vehicles.
3. Just a suggestion, but maybe consider for a future vid visiting some engine builders and/or tuners and explore what can be accomplished from just an install of a simple basic performance air element to full bolt-on options, as well as pros/cons of a lap top tune versus a full dyno tune.
4. Off topic, but what are your thoughts as to whether or not the new ZR1 will go sub-seven minutes on The Ring?
5. Any possibility of you doing a live stream in the future?
Thank you for the time and effort you put into your videos. The videography is as seamless as the shifting of the 10-speed transmissions. 😂
Save the Wave.
+Peter Carey As always, thank you for the support and great feedback 👍
1. I know it hasn't been implemented on the Camaro yet. If the rumored new Z28 comes with the LT5 then it will 👍 The Challenger has SO many engine options available, but I don't think that any of them utilize a dual fuel delivery system. From what I understand, it was introduced on the LT5 to help serve the additional fuel that the ZR1 needs over the single direct injection of the LT1 and LT4.
2. The Camaro is the lightest of the group 👍 Followed by the Mustang and then the Challenger.
3. That would be cool 👍 I'm guilty of being a warranty warrior lol. I've never modified my vehicles with even basic bolt ons.
4. Based on the numbers at VIR I think it's very probable!
5. 🤔 Not sure... I think it's a great tool for sharing news at exploring a car show. No editing at all makes me a little nervous though lol.
Love the analogy with the 10 speed auto lol 😂 Thanks for the kind words.
Thanks for your replies. As to your reply on Point No. 3, if you think you may sell your C7 in the not too distant future, by all means, leave it alone, at least mechanically. But . . . yep, always a "but." lol BUT if you don't envision selling for awhile, consider a few more ponies. I would venture to say that the smile on your face may just increase a few centimeters. 😂 Plus, selfishly, I know you research and do your homework, so I'm curious as to what you would come up with. Just food for thought.
Legitimate question please answer anyone that knows... At minute 15:20 in the video, it shows different size tires bc it has the performance pack. Can i put the same sized tires on all four corners? If not, why? If no, is it bc it's different rim sizes for the front and rear. LEGITIMATE QUESTION. Ive been wondering this since Ive been debating on whether or not to pull the trigger on GT.
jc50gt different wheel sizes on the front and back. The front has 19x9 inch wheels with 255/40/19 and rear has 19x9.5 inch wheels with 275/40/19. You could technically put 275s on the front but it might be a clearance issue.
55K, that’s GT350 money!
Adam Gaines not quite
Matt Hartup actually it is
Adam Gaines indeed
Adam Gaines gotta remember this is faster to...
no way!
another big miss in the MUstang is a HUD !!! my god Ford ...even your new cheap Focus hatchback in europe comes with a HUD !!
Exactly one month after this video the 2018 Mustang GT performance Pack 2 model was released and is much more capable on a road course just like the 1LE, so you might want to do a follow-up video because it's all changed now. The Camaro SS 1LE is definitely not that much better than a 2018 Mustang GT as everyone said it was when it was compared to the Performance Pack 1. The funny thing is everyone doing videos like this already knew in May exactly one month after this video was put on TH-cam that the performance Pack 2 would be available for testing for everybody. Don't act like you didn't know LOL.
So with your sales comment; you're going to completely ignore the Camaro was completely designed for 2016 AND yet sales dropped? Realistically, the market for Mustangs / Camaro's / Challenger is only so big, and like all business has a cycle. Also I'd pontificate that each car's cycle is different from the other's with the Challenger having the least overlap if at all with the Camaro and Mustang. In my opinion the redesign of the next generation Camaro is sink or swim - or live or die for it and if GM has sense they'll figure out how to return to the interior dimensions of the Zeta car. Hopefully both Ford and GM now understand, performance is not the biggest attraction to these cars. If there are two sales influencers above others; I'd say exterior style and interior livability, performance really is not a significant factor as consistently the best performing variants - other than the GT350 are the worst sellers. For example for all the hoopla of the 1LE just 4% of Camaro's sold are 1LE's. To put that in perspective; 8% of Mustangs sold are GT350's therefore in reality any time a 1LE actually makes it to a track there is likely to be at least twice as many GT350's present. So comparing a 1LE to a base GT with a PP1 or PP2 is not realistic, and the ZL1 - do they actually sell those? My bet is all ZL1 owners are GM employees unless they are giving them away.
Great video, Robert. I agree, a loaded GT would be the way to go. The good news is that Ford has a LOT of room to move
price-wise on most of their lines, Mustangs included. My advice to anyone looking to get into one of these would be to
shop, and then shop, and then shop around some more. You'll eventually find a dealer willing to work with you and put
you into a GT for far below sticker.
+G Money For the right price it's a great value 👍 I've also heard that they're pretty aggressive with pricing even on the 2018 models.
It's subjective but the C7 looks better, sounds better and is more fun to drive.
The biggest advantage the stang has over it's competitors is the coyote's ability to handle bigger power reliably.
For me, the GT stang would need to be premium and PP1 as the base has that lame little 4 inch screen and terrible base tires/handling...
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Is the digital dash an option? None of the 2018 mustang GTs I see for sale have it.
It's an option. The analog gauges are standard.
Very nice and thorough video. However, not sure the of the relevance of the Corvette.
Thanks for the feedback 👍🏻 My channel was started as just a Corvette channel, and about a year ago I decided to go drive and review some other model cars that are often compared to Corvettes. I originally intended to just share my thoughts with other Corvette enthusiasts, but the review videos started circulating around TH-cam to all types of car enthusiasts.
Got it. I'll be checking out more of your videos. Very well done.
Nice video, I own a 2016 race red, o51 package, v6, manual transmission, 23600.00 out the door, 26000 miles, no issues, no regrets, still not bored with it,
bloodclaut!!! im paying $1378 per 6 months but im in NY
This car hits so many marks. It actually is good In corners has power and is affordable. No wonder they sell so many. I want one but it's just not practical at this time.
omg if those Mustang were available with a nice SUNROOF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its a must have for me and i drove cars now over 25 years only with a Sunroof and i save so much AC days in a year !
I want another Nismo 370z.
My first NEW car was a '76 Datsun 280Z.
The Mustang GT is already being discounted. Come fall and winter it'll be down to the high 20k range for a auto GT.
Carlos Finch not a mustang fan but if that happens I would buy a 10spd GT in a second.
jeff grabowski Auto trader is your friend.
Carlos Finch haha it truly is, I’ve sold 9 cars while buying 3 and a boat on auto trader and boat trader respectively. I’ll b e keeping my eye out as used ones start to hit Autotrader.
Great review
Nice fucking intro bro! Soundtrack was on point, camera angles , fade outs, everything ! Definitely liked and subscribed and you helped me choose the color I’m going to get!
Yeah try and find a new GT for 35k ? That's impossible, they are mid 40's and higher everywhere
SJC Cobra there are a few in SE WI in the 33-38 range with leather but otherwise more of a stripper besides the 3:55. The dealership that had some under 35k may be playing pricing games and try to get you with added back end and destination fee bs.
I found a *new* gt for 35k
I'm just if you can you get that 460 on 91 pump gas or did they rate it at 93? It does matter not a whole lot but I can't find where it's stated that 91 makes the top hp...either on this stang or our C7s
+BaileyPaws Good question 🤔 I'm not sure. There is most likely a difference, but it's probably pretty small.
I've seen the thumbnails for your videos for a while. I bought a 17 Mustang GT, a car I've been dreaming of owning since 1987 when I was 13. I consistently scrolled by your videos because, while not a "Ford" guy, I do prefer the Mustang over the similar offerings of the other companies. I always figured the videos were going to be a Chevy guy saying "this thing sux compared to my Vette" and your videos would just be a Chevy guy bashing a car I waited 30 years to get. BOY WAS I WRONG. You're videos seem to be very unbiased and an honest and very thorough review. Now a new subscriber. I do like your Corvette which will be my next car. BTW I had to wait 30 years because in NYC insurance companies laughed at me at 18, 25, wanted crazy money @30, and FINALLY deemed me responsible at 43 lol. Look forward to your upcoming content.
Oh, I ordered a Procharger D1x kit for the Mustang yesterday. If only the insurance company knew lmao.
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The bugatti Chiron has more horsepower for a far lower price!
I really like the video quality. Great shots.
How does the Corvette and Mustang do on top end? I read that the 2017 Mustang could out run the Camaro on top end. To be honest I am not a 0 to 60 or a quarter mile person when it comes to speed and times. Top end is where it matters for me. Btw I have a 2017 Mustang GT and I am enjoying it but am thinking about trading it for the 18 Mustang GT.
they should have kept the V6 for budget minded folks,ecoboost is way less reliable . I own a 5.0 and love it. My biggest complaint is fit and finish,its as bad as a KIA
I’m 22 and insurance company love me😂😭
You missed or got a lot of info wrong. The 2018 Mustang auto does 12.2@116. A GT350R does 12 flat at 117mph. And, no magazine has yet to do a proper apples to apples test with Camaro or Chally. It's always an automatic vs manual.
Different sources will have different times posted depending on the conditions. All sources used for the comparison in this video are linked in the description. They're accurate numbers. I'm not disagreeing with you about the manual vs. auto comparisons, but that doesn't mean that the numbers are wrong. Check out the description for more details 👍🏻
mustang all day an actual muscle car
+DatClipperFan 💪👍
muscle car to sports car
challenger < mustang < camaro The camaro is leaner and sharper than the other two.
Jeff K as long as mustangs keep hitting crowds because they cant handle worth a shit, they’re muscle cars in my book lol
Agree that getting more of a base model with a few options is the way to go. The $2200 premium plus package with the digital dash would be nice but not needed. Unless the new B&O sound system in the 2019's are better than the "Shaker audio" . Even then the stock dash is just fine, has all the cool read outs on performance etc. Don't need NAV as the phone can do all that. I don't even think you need the performance package. And if you can do with out leather one can find a GT non-premium that still has all the guts of a race car for about 32k. New. The 2018's will be heavily discounted now that the 2019's are rolling in.
Don't forget you'll get factory incentives and xplan pricing off the bat when buying a Ford. Just like we learned with our 2017 escape 39 sticker 31 sales price... but it lasted 7000 miles and it's been on a lift at the dealer with a failed transmission for 2 weeks now. I also own a C6 corvette I bought new and a 2016 BMW 340i purchased new. GM nor Ford will ever get my money again regardless of how much one of their products entices me.
Honestly this 2018 5.0 is a bang for your buck car.
Good vid and came across unbiased👍
The C7 ZR1 is using the lessons learned and the concept of port and direct Injection from Ford on the 2018 Mustang gt. Dir ft Injection was primarily invented to improve fuel economy, and not a good thing when adding DI alone, to high hp applications.
You sound like the casually explained guy
+Christopher Ovrebo Lol nice. I've never heard that comparison before. I see what you mean.
in the country i leave we start from 95 octaine gas up to 100 and where i leave tha gas cost about the duble the money cost in america
I may be nit-picking here, but I am still waiting for an option for a sunroof. I am a Chevy Man anyway and have decided on either Camaro builds on 2SS, 2SS 1LE, or a ZL1, and all have the option for a sunroof. I can't live without the sunroof because I haven't since 1996, and use it 12 months a year. I'd like to know how many feel the same way by replies to this comment since Ford seems to be convinced that it is not a viable option. Thanks, Cappy.
Yeah, I'm a Mustang guy and I wish they had a sunroof. I don't get why they don't.
If you spend 60% or more of your time on the track, then get the 1LE. It's made for the track, not the street. It'll serve you no puron the street, other than a very harsh ride. Also, GM is still using direct Injection which is not a good idea on high perfappkixations, and is causing heat and other driveability issues in Cam and vetted.
I probably would have bought a newer Mustang 5.0 IF it had a sunroof. I've had a sunroof for several decades now... I can't stand the looks of the Camaro, and Challengers are a dime a dozen THOUGH both of those can come with sunroofs...
Sunroofs just add unnecessary weight for vehicles like this. Just get the convertible if sunshine is that important to you.
Kelley9
Camaro is not kid friendly. R+ adult. For beast killer looks. Not for kids. ;)
Nice video. But digital guage clusters are going to age badly.
I wish my insurance premium was that low! Im 22 and have a v6 camaro and pay 1400 every 6 motnhs.... i hate my state.
Try $$ per bhp/pound... show me that more important chart
That's lb-ft of torque, not ft-lbs. there is a huge difference.
Has Ford solved the driveline vibration problems in the S550 Mustang??
Great info that i wasn't able to hear/get from other vids. Thanks for your hard work. Keep it up!
Man this guy is wise beyond his years ..
I'm sold on the new mustang's looks so much that I ordered an orange fury performance pack. The Vette is a nice car and I like them. But they suck getting in and out, and there's some things on the Vette that look plain goofy...for instance that brace on the front grill and that stupid stingray on the side. People have referred to it as a sperm...and from some angles...that wheel base looks so long that it gives a strange look.
Yeah, driver position is better on both the mustang and camaro. The truth is sporty coupes are more livable than full blown sports cars. The main problem of sporty coupes is consistently that they are heavy.
Mustang created the pony car class!!! Better show respect 😎
Originally the concept of the mustang was to take a small economy car and put a strong engine in it. They have gone pretty far from that concept, infact I would say my GTI or a WRX are closer to the original concept.
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True, but it doesnt make it the best
Mustang GT = Budweiser Corvette= Sam Adams.
Your insurance is quite low for your age. Is it 100/300 coverage? Who’s the insurer because I may need to switch from Allstate to another company.
I have Geico 👍 When I shopped around they were significantly cheaper than anyone else.
Tight camera work 👍good production..
I’d take a gen6 1SS 1LE over any s550 GT
+Force Times Distance Equals ? Torque Thank you 👍
Cars, Costs and Technology, Yw
*Jan 2018 Sales*
*2,867 Camaro*
*4,732 Mustang*