If you can make multiple videos on just say (Scandinavian) politics, investing, and other such topics, one always could make a separate channel, MidnightSun Politics. lol That said, I do like more of this format on a Eurocentic viewpoint since i am not from Europe myself.
@@DarlinAkaDarlene Or maybe you do not hear enough anti Europe propaganda for your taste? The general consesus is that America is best for rich people and Europe for poor people. The middle class vary based on your preferences I guess.
@@MidnightsEdge please do, we are in the same trap as USA were inn. best in world bs like happiest place on earth, so we have gotten complacent, if you could shine a light on Scandinavia and all the problems we have i believe would help to some degree
I visited Norway in the spring of 2017. During the trip I visited multiple museums, including the cultural history museum in Oslo. It was somewhat shocking when there were signs all around the floor that containes all of the artifacts from the middle ages (tapestries, viking era swords, etc) stating that the exhibit would be closing to be replaced with an exhibit on climate change. Why am I going to a museum in Oslo to learn about climate change? I'm at the history museum for history.
I can find _nothing_ to support your claim. I can't post links. All I found was at visitlokkaDOTno and it has an article how this is an *ENTIRELY NEW* building and it was a picking-up-the-stick from an investor, it was already a project but he bought it. There is *NO* information to anything of what you said, the only thing that MAY be related is that the geological section which is nearby is under rehabilitation. Also if you wanted to see Viking stuff why tf didn't you just go to the Viking museum at Bygdøy? Nothing in your post makes any sense. _"Why am I going to a museum in Oslo to learn about climate change?"_ Good question. Because it seems neither that you did go to a climate change exhibition, nor that you knew what you were doing.
As a Dane it has been hard to watch how even Norway has changed it's ways. For me Norweigans have always been the most rational and grounded people of the three of us.
Some of us still are. Many are bought into the narrative, though. Me and my brother have become "black sheep" in our family for pointing some of this out. Guess its right-wing radical to want our country to be prosperous when our kids grow up.
Im swedish but my dad is norwegian. I'd say Sweden is by far worst of the three, but 10 years from now when we have sobered up i think norway will be worst 😅
And our corrupt leaders are led by the people who cries antsemitism. Its the same all across the western world - our countries answer to EU which answer to US which answer to Israel.
Ive recently moved to Norway from New Zealand with my Norwegian wife. I owned a business in New zealand for 10 years and paid 28.5% business tax, then if i wanted to take out any money for myself i would pay the difference of the income tax of 33% to the business tax so an extra 4.5% tax. This whole double tax system in Norway is insane to me, why would anyone take any risks and go out in business? I have also brought a house here and now finding out if i want to move back to New Zealand one day i need to pay 30 something percent tax on the value of is absolute madness. I feel like ive been tricked. I had no idea the Norwegain goverment was so out of touch and greedy.
If you invest in the stock market you have too pay 38% in tax of the profit if you want too take out some earnings. So you take all of the risk and the goverment can take almost half of your earnings. You cant make it up
@@dagragnarklstad2400 Wrong. You still pay over 2% of the value as "document" fee. Its retarded, such a huge cost for what? Transfer of ownership which now are over 90% automatic process and you as the seller do most of the work or pay someone to do it for you. And if "good forbid" you inherit something and then want to sell it. Then you have to wait for at least 1 year, and move and live there for 1 year, to avoid 22% tax on the whole sale. It is a very greedy system. Usually the property you inherit have already been payed down with taxed money (for instance your parents income). And we also pay property tax, just for owning something. I do not think most people realize how money grabbing greedy this is!!
Look at what happens to people in the UK who speak up and you know why… Not quite as bad in Sweden where I’m from but the democratic choice you have there is basically Bernie Sanders party or Democrats. All media is leftwing.
@anonymousJAN2024 , please be respectful and refer to it not as the UK but as the Caliphate of England. All Heil Sultan Charles Abdullah lll (PBUH/SAWS/SWATS). May all His Highnesses sexual lust be fulfilled by his great harem.
It's not that socialism is bad. It just that it should be kept within some limits. There's no need for a government to become larger than the rest of the economy.
@@jondoe7451 yes, they are about, just need to know where to look. Or of course , they’re jailed like in the UK! US media is very US centric, other countries get far more readily available global news. There are plenty of patriots standing up everywhere - Canada, oz, nz, eu, uk etc. and it’s the same story on repeat unfortunately. All with growing crippling welfare and health services budgets, unaffordable housing, degrading education systems, depressive drop in displaying national pride, left bias msm etc. and the obsession with increasing taxes after tax after tax to the majority of working citizens to pay the price.
it was bad, they just decided to put it on steroids. The problem in Norway is not any specific tax. The problem is that there is ALL the taxes at extreme rates.
If you've ever read "Basic Economics" by Thomas Sowell, one of the key points he keeps pointing out is that policies that are supposedly designed to help poor people typically hurt poor people the most.
@@SpaceJawa the problem in modern times is that it's practically UBI. It's not enough that you can fulfill any dreams, but just enough that you can sacrifice your dream for comfort. And that is how it hurts them.
@@steinarvilnes3954 not a good argument. That’s an opinion poll, not factual analysis. Also, that’s right now (or whenever the latest poll is published), not the future outlook.
@@steinarvilnes3954 Norwegians like living there. They have infinity welfare benefits due to their tiny population and insane amount of oil. Why the UK didn't just take all the North Sea oil I've never understand. Foreigners despise Norwegian culture and the cold but put up with it for the free kroner. Just like Minnesota.
@@marcv2648 Here we think that we cannot go any further into stupidity, yet somehow there's always something new and unexpected exceeding our expectations, it's beautiful in its own way. I'm personally done with France, seeking a job in Belgium and Switzerland
Old Norway was famous for its vikings specifically because of its massive suck and draconic rulers. It turns out that competent people flee that sort of thing, and they have to go somewhere.
Decades of emotionalism, virtue signaling, and unwillingness to face reality will do that to a society. As the old saying goes, "Weak men make for hard times."
@@TheREALSimagination Yes but the wokesters love migrants so they should get as many as they can get. These are homogenous societies of sheltered people who are not net drains on the taxpayer. Its allowed the ruling class to develop their luxury, socialist beliefs because they force others to pay the bill. Soon they’ll reach a tipping point of what the productive people are able or willing to pay for, then you’ll see a paradigm shift.
Damn straight man . NAV is a hellhole open from 12:00 to 12:01 and if you have a question the only way to ask that question is by phone or web . My securitas here will show you the way out
Norway is no longer the same country it used to be, and it’s not just the wealthy who are leaving but also the “working class.” I work as a civil engineer, and since 2020, Norway has lost about one-third (if not two-thirds) of its workers from Poland and Lithuania in the construction industry. It has become so absurd that we can no longer find skilled workers like we once had. Additionally, the workload has increased because many companies are struggling. My position used to be handled by three engineers, and now I’m working alone. It’s incredibly stressful and has a significant impact on my family life. The Norwegian krone has lost around 23% of its value against the euro since 2019, and people from European countries that were once a major source of labor for Norway no longer see the financial sense in living and working here. With such high costs and wages no longer amounting to €3,000 for 30,000 NOK but rather €2,550, it’s simply not worth it for them. On top of all that, a former prime minister announced, “We’ll give 1,000 billion NOK from the oil fund to Ukraine,” showing a complete detachment from reality. There is also manipulation of statistics to prevent people from seeing how much prices have really increased. The focus is always on comparing price increases over the past year or two, but 2019-2020 is never mentioned. Many things have doubled in price over the last five years. My wife and I have started transitioning our work to online platforms, and we’ll likely sell one of our apartments next summer and leave Norway because this illusion has become unbearable. My mother’s parents are Serbs who lived in Norway but moved back to Serbia to enjoy their retirement. We used to visit Serbia at least once a year, and last year we tried living there for two months. We enjoyed it, and most importantly, our children liked it much better there. We’ve started preparing for migration. I believe that with online income similar to our salaries in Norway and an apartment we can rent out, we can have a much better life elsewhere. Here, life has turned into a vicious cycle of work and bills.
The mismanagement of the Norwegian Krone in the Foreign exchange rate pushed away Polish and Lithuanian workers. It was better and they could earn more money if they just worked int heir home country
"The Norwegian krone (...) euro since 2019" And around 40 % since 2003. At that point it cost around 7,50. Now it's been around 12. The USD cost about 6,50 and now it's above 11. No wonder everything gets more expensive when almost everything is imported.
@@knrdvmmlbkkn I completely agree, and this is a topic in itself. My wife and I are fortunate to have inherited an apartment, and both of us managed to buy our own properties in our early 20s. Later, we sold them to purchase a large family home when we got married and started our life together. But when I hear about people paying 20,000 NOK in rent plus electricity or heating costs "a-konto" for apartments of just 50-60 square meters, I can’t help but wonder-how much does a family need to earn to live a normal life? 20,000 NOK for rent, probably another 10,000-15,000 NOK for electricity, food, internet, phones, insurance, and so on. Where does that leave room for monthly transport passes or a car? What about clothes and shoes? Extracurricular activities for the kids? A trip to the cinema, a dinner at a restaurant, or something similar? A family without their own home needs at least 50,000 NOK per month just to maintain a decent standard of living. This is no longer the Norway we used to know. It’s turned into a form of wage slavery, where people are forced to work just to pay their bills and maintain a basic lifestyle. Not everyone earns an engineer’s salary like I do or holds a high-paying position. What about service workers? Aren’t they entitled to a decent life as well? If you fall behind even slightly, your quality of life is ruined, and this constant fear looms over so many people. It wasn’t like this before. I feel genuinely sorry when I see what this country has turned into because of incompetent politicians. Actually, calling them incompetent might not be fair-they know exactly what they’re doing. We always pride ourselves on the idea that there’s no corruption in Norway. Sure, there’s no "petty corruption," but if you look beyond everyday people to the ties between politics and industry, the level of corruption is staggering. All of this just frustrates me and makes me deeply sad.
As a Norwegian I agree that our government is nothing to brag about.But this is happening all over the world.I am grateful to live here, I bought my house alone at 28, and have no problem paying for all my expences alone.I eat fresh,locally made food every day, and have nature at my doorstep.I feel very safe, and live a peaceful life.
I wonder if perhaps this poster has not had the pleasure of an acquaintance with the grooming gangs and is this still hearing the lullaby of the past. Bless his heart.
My sister married a Norgie and moved from the States to your country. She told me how wonderful it is and how everything is covered. She then mentioned how she drives 2 hours to Sweden every week to stock up on groceries and other supplies because everything is so expensive. It still hasn't clicked with her.
That's a common experience in Norway. Yes, living costs are high here, but the real issue is the government's policies that make it even harder for businesses and individuals. The tax system, heavy regulations, and a focus on welfare over economic growth have created a tough environment, especially for entrepreneurs and the wealthy. High taxes, combined with expensive everyday goods, leave many feeling burdened. On top of that, the welfare system, while extensive, has its flaws. For instance, even people with 100% disability are expected to work, which isn’t feasible for many. Disability benefits are modest and often not enough to live comfortably. For example, someone living with a spouse will have their benefits reduced because the system expects the partner to support them financially. This can leave disabled individuals in a difficult financial position. Additionally, if you’re married, the government may take a portion of your benefits due to the combined income of the couple, which discourages people from relying on their partner’s support. It’s a system that, in many ways, makes it harder for families to thrive financially, especially when living costs are so high. this is just a few of the insane policies in Norway
I guess your sister married a man with a better income. Then the reality isn't that bad... yet. Current policies doesn't have immediate effect, it takes time. 70% of norways population has a job and salary that is directly controlled by the government. There is very few "real private" jobs. The government is "very good" at micromanaging the economy. The government create tenders and hand them out to friendly companies that do their bidding. Everything is controlled to the last detail in an incredibly system. If you know capitalism, like Mises, Hayek, Sowell, and all the "irrelevant" experts, then you know that the government make stupid decisions and create ineffective systems. It doesn't fall apart over night. It takes time. There is already less jobs. Salary is not growing enough. There is tampering with statistics. The currency has crashed like 25%. Electricity price has exploded. The list is very long. There is no incentive to start a business or hire people any more. The judicial system is taken over by EU. The laws are from WEF/USA/UN/EU. Everything is made expensive on purpose. Flat tyre? A simple patch is no no. 4 new wheels.
@frodej6640 Her husband is an officer in the military, so they get that government check in addition to her working. She also mentioned the electricity limits within her house when I offered her an old PC of mine. (Again, still has yet to click with her.) Anyways, with what you've said, it's really no longer a question of if your economy will collapse, but when. I always thought the oil & gas industry was the only thing keeping Norway's head above water, but it's clear you have people in charge that are hell-bent on seeing your country drown.
Norway got mass converted to Christianity and lost their balls a thousand years ago. Then the black death killed most of the population and the royalty. Then they spent 500+ years owned by Denmark and then Sweden before they became independent again. Then they continued as a frozen backwater fishing village until they became the Beverly Hillbillies post WWII because of oil.
@@bentontramell There has never been any book banning in Florida. Deciding that a book shouldn't be in the school library int banning a book. Everyone can still purchase it, buy it in a book store, or a public library. Only liberals call it book banning to make it sound like something it's not. Not all books are appropriate for children. That doesnt mean they are banned. And all history will be taught. No need to dwell on the parts liberals love to exaggerate.
I came to Norway as a migrant worker in 2017. Had a low paying job and lived by myself in Oslo. I never worried about paying my bills, enjoyed nights out with friends, sponsored multiple hobbies, paid for holidays for myself and my mom, and managed to save around 100k in a year. Fast forward to 2024, and I struggle to save any money at all, I go to 0 every month. Wtf happened, Norway?
I was shocked when I went to Oslo in 2003. When I rode the metro, each platform we arrived at was covered in a sea burqas. Coming from Texas, I had never seen a full burqa in real life before that. Needless to say, I knew Norway had already fallen. The other shocking part was I had to pay $50 for a very sub-par pizza that was delivered to me (this was 21 years ago). I have absolutely no reason to ever go there again.
@@marcv2648 sadly, if something isn't done about blackrock and/or vanguard and the people leading the globalists that have bought the EU, and most politicians and media outlets, then this type of thing will be coming to Texas.
Sweden can have Oslo if they want to, feels like i'm in the middle east every time i go there. Western and northern Norway are next if the immigration doesn't stop.
@@rasmusmeng2363 Does not matter, your either self sufficient or dead. It's not like we are not going to have another massive EMP event again, we just don't know when as we have not had technology affected by it long enough to determine a probable interval.
This really reminds me of 70's Sweden, where the leading party, The Social Democrats got so cocky they ended up taxing business owners over 100%. This lead to Astrid Lindgren (the children's author behind Pippi Longstocking) writing a short story about a greedy witch, aluding to the party in the biggest newspaper in the country. Mind you, Lindgren was up until that point a proud supporter of the party, and in no way a "greedy capitalist" who wanted all the wealth for herself. Things changed a little bit for the better after that, but Sweden is still, just like Norway, not an easy country to become successful in.
That was not business taxes but personal taxes I believe? And why do only business leaders count? What about the hell about 25 percent of the lowest part of the population live in, in your belived pro business countries? Except Switzerland, but that is an edge case.
More people should look up the 70's Sweden socialist debacle. For some reason they they think it is a socialist country. High taxes does not equal socialism.
@@steinarvilnes3954 The reason Lindgren could be taxed over 100% was that she was an author and, therefore, a private business owner. The common worker wasn't taxed nearly as much for obvious reasons. The rest of your comment makes no sense, are you asking me if I want Sweden to become like Switzerland or what will happen with the poorest in the country with low taxes?
@@TGFalk I am not talking like Switzerland, but the US, Chile or Singapore. I simply do not see any country except Switzerland like that, that is liveable for almost everyone. It seems to me that everyone that make it easier for succesfull people, also disdain weakness or even mediocrity.
Im from Norway and i dont even buy groceries. I just hunt and use the recorsess from my farm. I dont use a dime on anything, and im slowly saving upp money to expand my farm (by being finantially culibat
The problem with mass 3rd world migration is that it has crippled europe and massive taxes are the only thing that can touch the sides. Each migrant benefits the UK a net negative half a million during their lifetime so will be worse in Norway
As a Norwegian living and working in the UK, I used to be proud of being Norwegian, but that's years ago. Now, I am just embarrassed about everything the politicians does to the country. Even the royal family doesn't escape ridicule. I was an avid supporter of the royal family and was proud of our king and queen. Now I just want to abolish the whole thing. No responsibility whatsoever on the media storm they are currently in. Just silence and blind tolerance of what is going on, and d**eneracy all the way, without addressing anything. I bet King Olav would spin in his grave if he saw the state of the family now. At least I am not living in Norway anymore, but I got family and friends over there still, and it pains me to see what the country has become. I will vote in the general election next year, and I am definitely voting for FRP now. Everything to get the socialists out of parliament. Things are somewhat bad in the UK as well, but it's miles better here than back home, at least! I can keep a bigger chunk of my salary, and I can pile up my savings without worry. I've even encouraged some of my family members to look for work outside Norway. Just leave before it's too late.
I was born and still live in Norway and we have a very high tax rate, but we also have a lot of extra costs like municipal fees and something called a "TV license" which gives you a channel called NRK which not many people watch but is forced to pay for today even if you don't have a TV since they put it in the tax. They take 34% of the normal salary and if you don't have a tax card they will take 50% of your salary. If you have a home in Norway, it is easy to feel that after tax and deductions, you only have around 7-15% of your salary left that can be used for what you want which depends on the job you have. The food prices here have gone really high up these last years and the state refuses to find a solution to lower prices. The state wonders why more than 40-60% of the population drives to Sweden to shop for food. If you try to buy 2 Kg chicken breasts in Norway the cheapest I've found costs 30 dollars and in Sweden, it only costs around 14-15 dollars (That's Half Price!) So the only thing the state thinks will solve this problem is to raise prices here in Norway even higher... For them, the solution is (High prices can only be solved with even higher prices) Sounds stupid because it is stupid... If you have a large fortune, you must pay wealth tax. If what you have in your savings account and other things you own such as a house or car or shares does not exceed 1.5 million NOK (135 150 dollars today), you do not have to pay wealth tax. If you receive interest on your savings, you must pay tax on this gain. So now is even better to have an account in Sweden because there is no wealth taxes there. Norway is going to take itself out because of all the different taxes we have here.
The TV license was abolished almost 5 years ago, though we are still indirectly taxed for it because now NRK is paid directly from the state budget. Also you didn't even mention VAT, which is 25% on (almost) everything. I hope you realise there are many countries and in the US many states that don't have a VAT at all.
We had the same crap in Switzerland with the "tv license" even if you didn't have a TV at home. Those countries have become unlivable, unless you are an African refugee....Big salaries, but taxes from all sides, specially the insurances that are so costly. Feels like becoming a milking cow...Not a good time to be white in Europe....I think they do it on purpose to discourage white people from having kids, while opening the borders wide open. Call me racist, i don't care. That is just the truth.
@@vhaarr Yeah, I already know that. That's why I said they put it in the tax. The TV license was in use until 2020 when it was replaced by funding through a progressive tax. So instead of one household, every taxpayer is paying for it (more for them, I guess). And VAT (Value added tax) for goods in Norwegian stores and also the VOEC for everything we buy outside of Norway. If some web shops outside of Norway don't have VOEC we have to pay a customs fee for the item also... And even if a shop has a VOEC there are still limits for how much you can buy before you need to pay a customs fee as well.
I am a foreigner here and I dislike norway and norwegian culture. I cannot wait to leave and the only norwegian i ever have to see again is my wife. This country produces the worst people ive ever met.
@@vhaarr There still is state tax on goods in USA, they don't call it VAT but the prices at the store does not show the taxes so you think its cheap but they can be up to about 7-8% on state taxes. Most ecconomies do have VAT.
Norwegian here. Another banger of a video. And it gives a very nice and straight to the point explanation on current Norwegian tax, and economical policies. Cheers 🍻
I'm just a regular working class Norwegian, and I've never really been into politics. However, in the last few years I have had this uneasy feeling that something is definitely wrong. Small hints here and there, for example, that it seems that several of our so-called leaders working in top positions in government have been caught cheating on their final exams, which probably has been a great factor in helping them get into the governmental positions in the first place. Another example is that it we send a lot of our money to aid Ukraine in the war. I do believe that it's good to help others but it shouldn't come at the expense of ourselves. A recent newspaper article said that the salary of the governmental jobs have increased by 40% in the last few years, and at the same time many schools and educational institutions are being considered to be shut down because of money problems. I don't know if our government have much control anymore on where our oil money is being invested in. We want to support deforestation of the Amazon rainforest, but it turns out that we have been sponsoring the Brazilian government in stopping that, but at the same time sponsored the companies that are responsible for the deforestation itself. I feel that Norway right now is like a shell that looks nice on the outside but is completely empty on the inside. Small cracks are beginning to form and if one peaks closer at those cracks one can see that there's definitely something wrong. If we continue this way, at some point everything is going to fall apart.
I’m noticing the change in my workspace.. as a bus driver, there’s always a lack of drivers, so we took in new employees from Poland, and also NAV ran campaigns to help refugees get work by giving them free courses.. helping them getting the bus driver liscense.. and we celebrated for new employees joining the fold.. this year the celebration changed to celebrating the ppl of colors joining.. with natural born Norwegians getting just a small profile picture in the bottom. And then they do questionaires and surveys about those other ethnicities because “it’s important to know your co-workers culture”… its so bad now that the central office where all drivers call in to report situations is staffed by 80% non Norwegians.. and more often then not i have to struggle with conveying my message in simplified sentences and summarizing situations because they can’t handle large amount of info usually conveyed in a normal conversation…
In South Africa if you are a business owner, make $100, you get taxed 28%, leaving you $72, if you take that $72 as income it is taxed at 30%, meaning you net $47 of the original $100. With the $47, if you use it to buy groceries you pay 17.5% VAT... meaning government takes a further $9 of your money in taxes. In total, of the original $100 YOU made: - Government gets $62 - You get $38 But it does end there. The $38 you used for groceries is income to the grocer. Right? He pays 28% of that to government in company tax... and if HE wants to draw a salary, he pays a further 30% income tax. So government takes $10 from the company, and $9 as income tax from the grocer... Meaning by this point government has taken 10 + 9 + 62 = $81 of the original $100! Why would ANY entrepreneur stay?
In Finland you have a rather bizarre situation in wages as well. Nominally income tax is quite low for median earners, on 40k income tax would be ~16%, but with another 8% tacked on top for mandatory "retirement insurance" and "unemployment insurance", only the person can't decide when to retire for themslves, the state sets the minimum retirement age, and keep raising it. So 24% income tax, that doesn't sound bad, right? Only there are so many pre-wage and post-wage taxation and fee mechanics, that in studies they found the total tax burden compared to nominal wage is over 70% these days, for an average married worker who owns a car and has a kid. Higher still if you don't have dependents. And pretty much every year the government lives beyond its means, and much like Norway, squanders and outright wastes a good chunk of it. But you can't get rid of socialists without another civil war, so the decline cannot be stopped.
@@MichaelDothoso In South Africa 4 million people pay income tax. Of those 1 million pay over 2/3rds of it. Meanwhile 28 million people draw free benefits with no strings attached. 14 million of those say they can't find work but in actuality they reject menial jobs and would rather get the benefits which include free water, free electricity, free housing, free education, free healthcare. Meanwhile, taxpayers pay 28%-45% income tax depending on income. then 17.5% tax on purchases. 5-6% levies for buying fuel. 1% contribution to road accident fund, there's a tax on property, tax if you own/hire a tv even if you don't watch the national broadcaster, tax on solar installations(!!!!!). There is a law now that all taxpayers with private medical aid will have their medical aid taken over by government and the funds will be shared with those who don't pay...because "that is fair". There was similar debate intended to introduce a law to do the same with retirement funds: take from those who saved up and distribute across everyone including those who didn't contribute. We've done the math too. For every $1 we make here, 67% of it ends up as tax. The taxpayers cannot out-vote the non-contributors because its a 1 million taxpayers versus 56 million non-payers battle.
@@AlternativPerspectivI'm from SA, just for correction we have 8 million registered tax payers, the rest 50 mil loafers from all over africa. Vat is currently 15% not 17%. The rest is about correct, also if you are a white male you have bo choice to get your own business due to the racist BEE laws preventing any white person from an equal opportunity competing against a 80% black majority. Many are leaving which means it gets harder by the year as the taxpayer numbers drop. Sad to see our once beautiful country evaporste before our eyes.
As an Argentinian who proudly voted for Javier Milei, I must tell you this: he won mainly because our country was so mismanaged, that SOMEONE had to deal with it, and only an outsider like him could. He is doing an amazing job. The bad news is that it took us 20 years to understand that socialism is bad, and I’m quite pessimistic about this. My fear is that in Norway will only learn the harsh way that socialism only brings misery, unless a Norwegian Javier Milei manages to convince most of the population that their ways are wrong and need to return to capitalism, that is. I love your channel, keep talking about your country more often, Andre. Best of luck to you and the people of Norway. Edit: thanks to the positive comments, and I also enjoy seeing people saying I’m wrong even though I’m living through it all. The guy reduced inflation to numbers we haven’t seen before, fighting against crime and corruption despite having a judicial and legislative system that is preventing him from doing the reforms we need to fix our broken economy, due to decades of shitty governments.
I sincerely wish all success to Javier Milei, I am Brazilian and I see that we are drifting back to the 1980s hyperinflation. We need a shinny example on what can be accomplished by a libertarian government so we too can vote on a Brazilian Javier Milei.
@@mervstash3692Half of the population was already eating from the dumpsters 20 years ago. We finally have someone who is trying to fix a broken economy, can’t say the same of previous governments. Instead of speaking without knowing anything about what my country has been, I suggest you at least investigate for yourself first, to understand why we are where we are, so you don’t make the same mistakes as us.
All of Europe is going to hell. Dutch citizens and businesses are also fleeing the country because they're taxed an regulated to death. We also get te law that you need to pay the Dutch taxes for 5 years after escaping the country.
I too am Norwegian. This could be greatest country on earth, ever. Sadly, and i'm going to make a huge claim here and say that Norway is the most corrupt country in the world. 5 million population but our number of politicians is much greater than that of Denmark. We have politicians that are willingly making the lives of the population worse, and they do it knowingly too. Politicians in Norway (even in the labour party..) has zero work experience. They go from school, usually from a wealthy, out of touch family straight into office.
An exit tax is a monumentally stupid idea because it increases the risk for future investors. No one is going to want to take the risk of bringing their business into Norway if they have to add a 37% penalty tax on top of the possibility of the venture not being profitable.
Don't worry, you must be living in Norway. It's not like the companies disappeared along with the biggest boys moving to Switzerland. Just the pressure on the company to produce 2-3% of it's total value just so the owner can pay the damn fortune tax.
@@torgrimhanssen5100 That's not what the video said. A company would be taxed 37.8% of the value of everything a company owns in Norway prior to leaving. Meaning that if you're a foreign investor that spent money to set up a business in Norway and it fails, they will tax you 37.8% of your investment to close shop and leave.
@@OmegaZyion Not sure where the confusion is. You can't own a company in Norway, be Norwegian and live in Norway. As long as you don't live in Norway, no problem, if your not Norwegian, even better for the companies tax burden.
@@torgrimhanssen5100 Maybe it has something to do with owning property in a country means you are subject to the same tax laws as everyone else in that country. Y'know, like how 99% of the world does it.
@@OmegaZyion "No one is going to want to take the risk of bringing their business into Norway" I think your confusing your own context. The exit tax, fortune tax etc. won't affect a foreign investor building a company in Norway. Foreign investment is fleeing for a different reason.
As a recent arrival to Norway (not an immigrant, I moved for work), I absolutely concur. The country's leadership is a complete mess and are unable to take a look at the problems the country faces objectively.
Why indeed... Such a typical Norwegian bootlicker answer 🤦 Norge er best, ingen protest! I wish I knew the truth before accepting the contract here. The image of Norway abroad is (or at least was back when I moved) positive. But you can't smell the shit from the outside of the toilet. Believe me, I've had enough of Norway and Norwegians, the weak krone, the traffic jams, the unreliable public transport (signal fel, my ass), and the lack of variety in stores. Only one brand allowed in the communist monopoly! And don't get me started on downtown Oslo! Might as well move to Asia, at least the cost of living would match the surroundings... But keep voting for the left, Backwards thinking Mårten, the brain-drain will eventually make Norway a Socialist Utopia! Heja Norge... I'll leave before then, as will most of my peers.
Hej Mårten... Typical Norwegian "Norge er best, ingen protest" attitude. 🤦My original reply seems to have been deleted. Let me tone it down, so as not offend anyone 🤐 Believe me, if I had known all of what's wrong with Norway before accepting the position here, I wouldn't have come. The problen is, you can't smell the sh*t from outside the toilet. You seem like a typical Norwegian, so I'll give you a free piece of advice: keep voting for the left! Norway will eventually turn into the real Socialist Utopia you seem to be hoping for! Meanwhile, the Brain-Drain will continue, local and foreign professionals will leave Norway, the weak krone, the Signal Fel in the trains, the laughably poor selection of goods in stores etc. for something less stagnated. Maybe to go to Asia. Downtown Oslo certainly has already acclimatised me to it, so why not. There, at least, the cost of living would match the surroundings...
For some reason, my replies keep getting deleted. Whatever, your answer is such a typical "Heja Norge" bootlicker answer, that I'll just say that I'm not planning on staying here for much longer. Norway looked good from the outside, but you can't smell the shit from outside the toilet either. Read the rest of the comments to get an idea why Norway isn't worth it anymore. Weak krone, poorly run public transport system, sad grocery store selection, and the cost of living around Oslo is way too high, especially for the "South Asian" experience. Might as well move to the Middle East after this, I've been acclimatised by Grønnland already.
As a Brit working on Norwegian oil rigs I'm endlessly mystified by the way Norway has managed to sleepwalk towards recession without addressing any of the problems. The signs are not yet really biting the internal economy but they will more and more. The idea that the oil fund will make everything OK is just madness...
Oh, but it will in the minds of the economically illiterate who see it's magnitude increase every time inflation increases (It is written in USD). They get to spend a few more billions on the budget not realizing they lost an order of magnitude in tax revenue.
Madness has gripped pretty much all of Europe, it's not better where you come from either. Still, regardless of how bad this looks I think Norway can easily turn this around in the next election.
@@Selendeki that is not how Norwegian politics work. We have had 2 major 2 small party coalitions for a while as nobody is different enough to get majority. Practically, in Norway you vote left or right ticket. Unless Frp receive 51% of the votes, they must cooperate with a party who thinks this madness is good.
Also, I find it disturbing that Norgesgruppen, Rema, and Coop are 95% of the food/grocery market, and they were recently fined for price collaboration. I've heard it's almost impossible for new ones to get in the market
A lot can happen in a thousand years. Though to be fair, the best of vikings went on to become kings and queens in Europe, and continue to be to this day.
Norwegian women overwhelmingly vote Left. Men, also young men, increasingly vote Right. In the next major election, in 2025, the government very likely will be right wing (and Israeli friendly).
@@MidnightsEdge Interesting point,why haven't successfull vikings brought their foreign brides to Norway and stayed there? I never ever wanted to leave my country but war happened so I fled and now at 63 I'm going back.
She says the lockdowns are the cause of the wealth issues in Norway...but the government created and enforced the lockdowns. Therefore according to her, the government created a problem that the government is now using as a reason to exert more and more authoritarian control.
Thank you for this video. I been screaming that Norway destroying the middle class and the benefits. If you get sick or hurt if and worked and paid 40% tax all your life your benefits are under the level you are in the category as poor in Norway. But migrants get things worth 10.000$ at least when they come. They get free license cost a norwegian 18 year old 5000$ and free dentist that are 500$ if you need to do something small Norway have the most expensive dentist in Europe and norwegians go to Thailand, Poland or Turki or Spain to fix the teeth to save money. But in 5 years the Norwegian government put up the price for 1€ from 7NOK to 12NOK!! That will say that the elderly that live in Spain just lost half their pensjon in a few year's. And they lived under the poor rate before they cut the benefits. Now they are dying like flies because they can't afford food and doctor and medicine. If they make paper you move to Spain to get cheaper medicine and doctor then Norway will take away a lot of your benefits from norway🤯 I have had two good friends die in a short time, one of kidney failure and one found dead. Its terrible stories down here where i hear old people kill themselves in shame after grandma or grandpa dont have money to buy their grandkids present for birthday and Christmas like they had afford to for some years ago. Norway is destroying expenses must be the only reason and people on pensjon is just an expense so when they passes they have more money to give to EU and Green Energy. Nexst month i need to move out after having a cheap apartment but norway suddenly backtaxed me 1100 dollars (almoast half my benefits) and me and my dog need to live in a apartment with 2 other Spanish guys to save some money. I had this month take out my savings for presents to some of my sisters kids in Norway and my dog have tumor and she should be in hospital but Norwegian taxing just made it worse i only got to pay my rent and my medecine and had to take oit money from that accont really hurts when i lock at Bella and see she not so good. Am 41 years old. Broken but i was a fisherman on boats and i don't want to retiring now especially when i cant live hand have food out the month. Its a so much bigger story here then just tax. What other reason would Norway take away half their pension or benefits?? they have worked hard in Norway and som up in 60 years and paid 36+% in taxes and this is the thank you from Norway. Its not fair and i been at my breaking point where i want to est all my sleeping pills after the stress for try surviving just to next month. Its hard every day and the anxiety that Norway want more money. Would you live like this the rest of your life? Never tougth i would live like this after working and paid tax from i was 15 years old. Now Norway want me gone👀 Now out walk a trip with Bella❤ Sorry long text
While im not a fan of unrestricted capitalism, this is fucking insane and as a german living in the former communist part of my ocuntry, the erich Honecker comparison Was brilliant
“Unrestricted”, you use such nasty language! "[B]y directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention. Nor is it always the worse for the society that it was not part of it. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it. I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good."
Unrestricted capitalism is better than restricted capitalism, with one caveat: so long as the corporations do not gain influence over the state. The problem with regulation is that it is used to cripple competition and benefit the wealthiest and most successful. Knowing this, the only restriction capitalism needs is for business to be unaffiliated and unaligned with the state. It is with the state's permission that monopolies form, because monopolies only exist in environments where the state puts its thumb on the scale to prevent the growth of competition in a free market.
@@Kanaleah The issue with unrestricted capitalism is the poverty of a large minority, bad working conditions, many not having access to healthcare and such.
Capitalism is simply the process of someone with capital making a present investment for future returns. The issue is that people have this bizarre tendency to confuse capitalism with human desire.
A Norwegian here with no hope for the future due to how far left and socialist the country is becoming. I'd love to move to the USA's midwest at some point.
@@larslover6559 Well, the states are wildly different with their laws. Some a lot more socialist in their policies than others (very high taxes), so I'd look into that and avoid those! Especially west-coast states should probably be avoided.
Those exit taxes are horrid, I remember hearing CA tried that once and it didn’t work well. Then again they had agents digging through people’s garbage looking for receipts. I liked this video and would watch others like it. I’m from Asia originally but living in the states. So hearing about different parts of the world and their economy is quite interesting. More so from someone who lives there.
@juliettek California has enacted a law that affects people and/or businesses leaving the state, but is not a fee to leave the state but to MOVE OUT OF THE STATE. It is also my understanding that the charge will go on for a number of years after the escape from California.
Our government also invited their buddies from taliban over for a friendly chat. And also recognised a palestinian state, as one of three countries to do so, without giving any second thoughts as to what that mean. They are so desperate to "be the nicest" and to take the morale high ground that they forget the politcal implications behind it, and who our real allies are in terms of real values and culture. Its infuriating to say the least. The election cannot come faster, we need it, yesterday.
I was just talking about dystopian movies and shows with my girl. She was comparing reality to these fictions. I explained to her that all dystopian stories can be seen in reality somewhere in the world. 1984 - North Korea The Handmaiden’s Tale - Iran Cyberpunk 2077 - USA Atlas Shrugged - Norway
I know a Norwegian in America who claims to be a leftist yet seems to enjoy the perks of keeping all of his money. You always have the choice of giving away 100% of your income and yet you don't. Why is that? Thanks for sharing Truth.
Wait.... You mean the Property taxes paid by American's is seen as extra evil Norway? I just had to pay $2400 for the joy of not being homeless and I didn't get to deduct my mortgage.
go watch michael bodanero. he interviewed a few real estate lawyers. qrd: you need raise the issue with your state to have it in writing that you don't agree with the evaluations, with the result of getting turned down. what's important is the documentation and disagreement not the result.
@@tillmanadkins713 I can't tell you all the minutiae but there seems to be a movement going on now where a collective is fighting PT. maybe you already did your part and just need to annex. I suggest you to go watch these Michael videos.
@@MidnightsEdge It is worth nothing that for your primacy residence there is a significant valuation discount for fortune tax, as well as that the property tax, if any, is set at the local council level with a federal mandated cap of max 1%. It get's exponentially worse once you venture into owning multiple properties.
Would say this is VERY important and needs to be talked more about. Scandinavia can be a wonderful place, but if the governments are this careless and stupid, people need to be made aware of it.
I second this. I still have some close relatives there and I dread visiting them. Oslo in particular is a dystopian mess of tagged buildings and trains, unimaginative, bleak modern architecture and random street crime. No thanks! Or in my dialect, Eg takker nei!
Norway has seriously declined in a lot of ways over the last two decades, culturally, socially, economically, demographically. It's gotten to the point that I don't recognize my own country any more.
Here in Pennsylvania i pay 6k a year for my house in the form of taxes. The nicer the house the more you pay. It's always been that way. Not including the pay tax, food, utilities, and every day things. Basically about 60% of what everyone makes goes to taxes. We all have a breaking point. And they are pushing up towards it. I think it's happening right now. Considering that on top of taxes we now have to think, act and speak a very specific way.
@@iRelevant.47.system.boycott U.S. tax law is a complicated thing. Expats who still maintain their U.S. citizenship are required to file a return every year. But keep in mind that around half of the people who file every year are not subject to any income tax under U.S. law. SO, there might be some U.S. citizens living over seas who do pay some income tax. But many of them are not required to pay any even though they are required to file a return every year.
Norway could have been a great place to live and do business, but no. Only the STATE is to be rich, the rest of us get to live in a dystopia that hates freedom and economic growth.
@steinarvilnes3954 That is an interesting question. However, it's not really the issue. I live in Norway and will continue to do so, so I'll just have to suck it up, won't I?
@@GreenKnight2001 But is sounds interesting you complain, and still cannot find a better country? Especially if you want one without retarded politicans.
My great grandfather came from Norway he was peder Pederson and settled in 1900 in Minnesota changing his last name from Pederson to Peterson where I get my last name
@ I thought so to but looked it up on genology and my wifes late grandfather said that if my ancestry name was En then its swedish but if it was On its norwegian. He came from the old country and is the only person I knew and could trust besides what my mother had done digging through my family tree. My mother side was from Norway as well. There is a picture my mom still has of my grandmother on the bridge of a ship with her dad who was named Thomas Lunder. That traces back my middle name to him past down from my uncle Thomas Mann. Incidentally my wife’s side of her family traces back to Lundi. We have strong norwegian roots in both sides of our family tree and then come to find out my mom told me we have an ancestor who was German who fought with America during the Revolutionary War
Well since i'm anonymous here i can tell the truth i guess, Norway has too many woke weak women in power. I don't have to elaborate i guess, Norways current state speaks for itself. Men built the country and should be running it!
Such a shame to see happen. California has been trying the same for many years, sending tax bills to folks long after moved out of state, such as my brother in law. Thank you for sharing, Andre. It is always nice to know what is happening elsewhere in the world and from a reputable source of many years now.
🇨🇭 l am Suisse, l feel for Norway🇳🇴 but things are not better over here, for normal people. We heading straight into recession and big unemployment.. Switzerland 2025 is game over..Stay strong Norway🇳🇴
No taxpayer should ever be forced to fund any kind of game development at all. In fact, there are a few things that are legitimate for being funded in that way by the state. If you can't convince people to voluntarily fund your project, then it does not deserve to be funded.
When you've paid your taxes, it's not your money any longer - just as your salery no longer belongs the company you work at. Taxes will always be used to pay for things you're personally against, don't need, or don't use. Still, concidering all the things in Norway that are cheap or free because it's tax-funded, I think we get a lot back... it's not like most is used on a bloated military or lower taxes for the 1% riches like in some countries! Art - paintings, statues, theater, movies... and now video-games - have always been to some degree substituted by the government... even when perhaps the lower classes couldn't appriciate it. It's weird, all the talk on the right about "Norwegian/Europeab culture" and how migrants "destroys" it... yet very little interest in funding art and culture! Most art and culture won't be profitable, but that is not it's purpose.
@@baardkopperud "When you've paid your taxes, it's not your money any longer - just as your salery no longer belongs the company you work at." Wrong. We are only delegating limited powers to the state. It does not ever actually own that money. It is only working as a proxy for us. It's as if you said that when we invest money through a mutual fund, we no longer own it. "Taxes will always be used to pay for things you're personally against, don't need, or don't use" That is part of why state taxes and spending should be limited to only the things most urgently needed AND that could not be provided privately. "Still, concidering all the things in Norway that are cheap or free because it's tax-funded, I think we get a lot back" Oh, I see, yes, I'm sure that's what they teach the peasants there. But, of course, you pay far more than the fake-free stuff you "Get back". "Art - paintings, statues, theater, movies... and now video-games - have always been to some degree substituted by the government... even when perhaps the lower classes couldn't appriciate it." No, the reason the rest of the world barely knows anything about Norwegian "culture" is that it's watered down by state intervention, and any arts you produce is ignored by everyone but yourselves. The US arts reached a greater pinnacle when the state was not interfering. Not that it does, that influence is waning.
Let's say you want to retire with income of $80k. Rule of thumb is that you can withdraw 4% of your savings, meaning you need to save $2M to get that retirement. But with a fortune tax of just 1%, that's $20k/yr being taken from your nest egg. You don't have enough to retire anymore. Instead, you have to save $2.67M or a third MORE than what you would have had to save before. *But it's WORSE than it sounds.* The tax is a hole draining your retirement bucket as you try to fill it. If you start saving $5k/yr, increase it by 3% each year (assuming raises), and earn 8%/yr, you will have $2M after 40 yr. But if your savings get taxed at 1% of their value each year--and being generous let's consider ONLY the amount over $170k--you only have $1.7M after 40 yr. It takes another 2.5 yr to get to $2M. But you need to get to $2.67M, so you actually have to work & save for 46 yr instead of 40 yr. It's like raising your retirement age from 65 to 71. (These calcs ignore income tax. So it's actually much worse.)
It is not possible to save. The inflation rate is radically understated, and despite the nominal value in the saving account increases, the purchasing power is declining.
And they just raised the retirement age from 67, to 69 and 71 years, depending your birthdate. All young people must work till 71 now! The craziest is; government want people to work only 30 hrs a week, and some people now working 4 days / week. -But you have to go on til you're 71!!!
Good luck, with the wealth fund operating as it is that would require the USD to burn first. We would need an economic disaster so brutal that shit becomes worthless. And sadly, it is written in USD, so the worse our economy the more valuable it gets.
We all need a Donald Trump in power throughout Europe sounds like or we r finished,unfortunately common sense is not very common, u have my sympathy Norway, been there a good few years ago, sounds as if it's definitely gone down hill since then, take ur country back Norwegians
Yes, more of these videos. In America, we call this "Inside Baseball" for an experience that we do not have but wish to know about from an insiders perpective. Great video!
"I am Norwegian and I want to hear more about Norwegian politics online instead of from official news sources that I don't trust.". What are "official news sources" and why don't you trust them? Just because someone is good at selling cars to you (Musk), doesn't mean that he knows how to run your country. Apart from my own country (just south of yours...), I like Norway the most. Appreciate what you got, because in comparison with the rest of the globe, it is pretty darn good.
@@shyviking By official news he probably means NRK or something like Aftenposten or VG. NRK is the "official" news you get in Norway. All of which are politically left-wing which is not good.
Same here. Online political content is very lacking in Norway. Most people get their news from MSM, which is part of the explanation of why things are getting shittier by the day.
I love the communities that live simply off the land with no automation and no chemicals...only a clean and pure relationship with the earth. This is a good reality.
Even crazier considering Norway has access to about $50 Billion USD worth of dividend payment from the sovereign wealth fund each year. Super greedy government...
This gives them Emirati problems, which pretty much guarantees eventual endemic dysfunction. Not a place to raise future generations of capable people.
I lived in Norway, Stavanger to be precise, for 6 months back in 2007. I absolutely loved the country, even though I could only travel during the winter, when Norwegians were even more shut-in and not particularly friendly. Back then, I could definitely back the idea of 40%+ taxes (how naïve, I know), because I could see the money wherever you went. Taxes were used to improve the life of the folk. It saddens me deeply to see that this is no longer the case.
No difference. We have the exact same system as described in the video. Exit taxes, more then half taken away when taking out money off a business, taxes on stock profits, tax on buying real estate but no deduction on selling etc.
There is a reason why I feel alienated in my own country. I am grateful for the help I've got but it's still near impossible to have any opportunity to build anything of your own without being taxed into oblivion. It does not help the fact that the birthrate is taking a nose dive alongside the immigration policies they are enforcing. Not to mention the superficial social situations and lack of any true connection. This is a zombie society, we are already dead. There is no denying it.
@@steinarvilnes3954 decline in birth rates is due to feminism, birth control culminating in giving women's rights inflating their egos and sense of values. Which means its global.
@@steinarvilnes3954 Gaza? All Muslim countries. No need to be rich just need to come see you and get busy birthing. A take down with no shots fired. The ultimate trojan horse because diversity is your best friend. LOL Better get that prayer rug ready, you'll need it.
I am from Norway. we have lived in exile for 9 years, after falsely being accused of being "seriously mentally ill, dangerous, and unable to take care of myself or children" by a police officer that we have never met. 9 years in limbo, poverty and desperation with 3 children. Nobody does anything to help us get back home, only gaslighting if anything, but they are very good at making up silly pretext.
@@DarlinAkaDarleneliving in Norway. I believe him. They are just that incompetent. They will pay companies taxpayer money so they use green energy and offset the loss.
@ArchieHutton-yn7zx i went to like a convention for class. And the people giving presentation were talking about how it was a good thing to use tax payer money to insentivice clean energy to companies. Under normal circumstances it would run the company completely under the ground, but the government gives them money. This is apparently A GOOD THING!
This is wrong, it was a study about the historie of titanwhite , a chemical pigment made in Norway and they looked on the impact of it in the world. A small part in the study they looked on how they in 1920s market it in a rasist way. The study was not to find out if white was rasist but to look into how this norwegian invention affected the world. Stay informed Guys!
People have become so lazy they believe stupid things so they can feel virtuous and pat themselves on the back even though they’ve accomplished nothing. This begets their pride. Then they feel they can do no wrong. And then they pave the road to hell with their stupid intentions.
First off all: - Norwegian politics theese days have zero cases or sections their hearth burn heavy for. They just want to be a politician, live on older extreamly good political decitions and tear some of them down due to their own incompetanse. - Second: they want euro, the people dont want euro. They also want to be in EU, but the people have voted no twice. So they are trying to burn down our valuta, and burn down our way of function so we are forced into eu and euro valuta. Meanwhile they themselves exploit system directly against the law, and all we Get are: «im sorry», if normal people do the same its jailtime. Its so bad now its barely describable.
I'm from Norway too. And our country is f'ed.. And it's the people who enter politics and media that cause the issues, most people I meet in Norway are normal, but the politicians and the media are just deranged..
Yes i love videos like this. I studied in Edinburgh and lots of my friends were from Norway. Long time now and sad to say long time no contact with most. I was one Brit who saw Nordic countries as idylic, then i started to see the complexity of it all. Love learning about whats actually going on in countries. But this mania of mass migration of people to our countries in such short time. People who dont like, respect the country they enter or wish to assimilate/integrate into their communities. Sheer lunacy! Keep going André.
So why can't people just leave the country and not pay the exit tax. Once they're gone, They're gone right? I mean no country's going to extradite them over this. What power do they have to enforce that you keep paying this tax once you're completely out of the country?
Its so bad. The fact that our taxes doesn't go to stuff that actually improve our lives, but to stuff that improve how much the politicians get paid is insane.
The big problem is that those rich people that are fleeing could help new young political parties destroy these old political parties but they would rather flee then help the common man to make their life better.
If you can make multiple videos on just say (Scandinavian) politics, investing, and other such topics, one always could make a separate channel, MidnightSun Politics. lol
That said, I do like more of this format on a Eurocentic viewpoint since i am not from Europe myself.
If enough like and share this video that it does well, a separate channel with more content like this could very well happen.
That's a great idea! And a good name. Here in the US we seldom hear the truth about Europe.
@@DarlinAkaDarlene Or maybe you do not hear enough anti Europe propaganda for your taste? The general consesus is that America is best for rich people and Europe for poor people. The middle class vary based on your preferences I guess.
@@MidnightsEdge please do, we are in the same trap as USA were inn. best in world bs like happiest place on earth, so we have gotten complacent, if you could shine a light on Scandinavia and all the problems we have i believe would help to some degree
@@steinarvilnes3954 Is pointing out how Europe is rapidly heading down the hellishly authoritarian government route "anti-Europe propaganda"?
I visited Norway in the spring of 2017. During the trip I visited multiple museums, including the cultural history museum in Oslo. It was somewhat shocking when there were signs all around the floor that containes all of the artifacts from the middle ages (tapestries, viking era swords, etc) stating that the exhibit would be closing to be replaced with an exhibit on climate change. Why am I going to a museum in Oslo to learn about climate change? I'm at the history museum for history.
I can find _nothing_ to support your claim. I can't post links. All I found was at visitlokkaDOTno and it has an article how this is an *ENTIRELY NEW* building and it was a picking-up-the-stick from an investor, it was already a project but he bought it. There is *NO* information to anything of what you said, the only thing that MAY be related is that the geological section which is nearby is under rehabilitation.
Also if you wanted to see Viking stuff why tf didn't you just go to the Viking museum at Bygdøy?
Nothing in your post makes any sense.
_"Why am I going to a museum in Oslo to learn about climate change?"_
Good question.
Because it seems neither that you did go to a climate change exhibition, nor that you knew what you were doing.
Its politics
@@nilsmikal They can kiss their donations and political support goodbye. Nobody will miss them.
Bror if u want to be rich , don’t move in Norway 🇳🇴 u Will pay a lot tax 🤌🏽🤌🏽
lmao, as a norwegian i never considered this perspective, but you hit the nail on the head.
As a Dane it has been hard to watch how even Norway has changed it's ways. For me Norweigans have always been the most rational and grounded people of the three of us.
Some of us still are. Many are bought into the narrative, though. Me and my brother have become "black sheep" in our family for pointing some of this out. Guess its right-wing radical to want our country to be prosperous when our kids grow up.
@@veratikon7882Not the right wing, but the opposite, together with the Muslims
@mammasut8280 what he said, some of us aee still based, and trying to awaken the rest from their slumber.
Agreed. My grandparents are Norwegian and so solid and sensible. What happened to Norway?
Im swedish but my dad is norwegian. I'd say Sweden is by far worst of the three, but 10 years from now when we have sobered up i think norway will be worst 😅
Yes indeed! !
I'm Norwegian, 70 years old.. we in Norway are lead by the worst incomptent compatriots,
which leads us straight into misery
We're a vassal state. Our 'leaders' are not working for us.
They’re working on making the WORLD miserable and poor
100%
So agree!!
And our corrupt leaders are led by the people who cries antsemitism. Its the same all across the western world - our countries answer to EU which answer to US which answer to Israel.
Ive recently moved to Norway from New Zealand with my Norwegian wife. I owned a business in New zealand for 10 years and paid 28.5% business tax, then if i wanted to take out any money for myself i would pay the difference of the income tax of 33% to the business tax so an extra 4.5% tax. This whole double tax system in Norway is insane to me, why would anyone take any risks and go out in business? I have also brought a house here and now finding out if i want to move back to New Zealand one day i need to pay 30 something percent tax on the value of is absolute madness. I feel like ive been tricked. I had no idea the Norwegain goverment was so out of touch and greedy.
If you invest in the stock market you have too pay 38% in tax of the profit if you want too take out some earnings. So you take all of the risk and the goverment can take almost half of your earnings. You cant make it up
That's a lie. It's actually the opposite. If you leave Norway, they return you the taxes payed over few years.
Selling a house you yourself have lived in one of the two last years is tax free.
@@liepa7768 Who said anything about leaving?
@@dagragnarklstad2400 Wrong. You still pay over 2% of the value as "document" fee. Its retarded, such a huge cost for what? Transfer of ownership which now are over 90% automatic process and you as the seller do most of the work or pay someone to do it for you.
And if "good forbid" you inherit something and then want to sell it. Then you have to wait for at least 1 year, and move and live there for 1 year, to avoid 22% tax on the whole sale. It is a very greedy system. Usually the property you inherit have already been payed down with taxed money (for instance your parents income). And we also pay property tax, just for owning something. I do not think most people realize how money grabbing greedy this is!!
It's so refreshing to hear ANYONE without an American accent stand up against the Left.
Look at what happens to people in the UK who speak up and you know why… Not quite as bad in Sweden where I’m from but the democratic choice you have there is basically Bernie Sanders party or Democrats. All media is leftwing.
The right without Jesus Christ is nothing.
@anonymousJAN2024 , please be respectful and refer to it not as the UK but as the Caliphate of England. All Heil Sultan Charles Abdullah lll (PBUH/SAWS/SWATS). May all His Highnesses sexual lust be fulfilled by his great harem.
It's not that socialism is bad. It just that it should be kept within some limits.
There's no need for a government to become larger than the rest of the economy.
@@jondoe7451 yes, they are about, just need to know where to look. Or of course , they’re jailed like in the UK! US media is very US centric, other countries get far more readily available global news. There are plenty of patriots standing up everywhere - Canada, oz, nz, eu, uk etc. and it’s the same story on repeat unfortunately. All with growing crippling welfare and health services budgets, unaffordable housing, degrading education systems, depressive drop in displaying national pride, left bias msm etc. and the obsession with increasing taxes after tax after tax to the majority of working citizens to pay the price.
That fortune tax sounds like an anti-middle class tax. Punishing people for attempting to be not poor
Functionally, yes.
it was bad, they just decided to put it on steroids.
The problem in Norway is not any specific tax.
The problem is that there is ALL the taxes at extreme rates.
"But we have to take your money to make Dustborn sequels!"
If you've ever read "Basic Economics" by Thomas Sowell, one of the key points he keeps pointing out is that policies that are supposedly designed to help poor people typically hurt poor people the most.
@@SpaceJawa the problem in modern times is that it's practically UBI.
It's not enough that you can fulfill any dreams, but just enough that you can sacrifice your dream for comfort.
And that is how it hurts them.
Not just Norway, ALL of Scandinavia,
Still considered one of the best place in the world to live though.
All of the western world
@@steinarvilnes3954 not a good argument. That’s an opinion poll, not factual analysis. Also, that’s right now (or whenever the latest poll is published), not the future outlook.
@@John-fk2ky And how better to know how people are doing? After all, why does more material wealth make people happier? Any proof of that?
@@steinarvilnes3954 Norwegians like living there. They have infinity welfare benefits due to their tiny population and insane amount of oil. Why the UK didn't just take all the North Sea oil I've never understand. Foreigners despise Norwegian culture and the cold but put up with it for the free kroner. Just like Minnesota.
i am from Norway, i second everything he is saying.
I am canadian, and this kind of shit is happening here as well.
@@Nartanekdid the Jews left?Not yet?So you ok for now.They still got stuff to take from you.
Same here, 100% agree
Notice how there’s no push for more diversity in Israel?
@@Nartanek at least you have Pierre Poilievre
I love the nation and people of Norway. Make Norway great again!
I replaced "Norway" by my country "France" for fun, I didn't hear any difference... "They're the same picture"
France is getting to the point where you will be living in interesting times fairly soon. Unfortunately, you all just went along for far too long.
@marcv2648 What interesting time? We've been destroying our country since may 1968 ^^
@@TheBebel10 I agree. Things can always get much worse.
@@marcv2648 Here we think that we cannot go any further into stupidity, yet somehow there's always something new and unexpected exceeding our expectations, it's beautiful in its own way.
I'm personally done with France, seeking a job in Belgium and Switzerland
Modern Norway is a disappoint to its ancestors.
Old Norway was famous for its vikings specifically because of its massive suck and draconic rulers. It turns out that competent people flee that sort of thing, and they have to go somewhere.
So according to you great people are the ones who travel to other countries to rape and pillage? Guess you love Somali immigrants then.
Well, Norwegian Govt is yes.
Yup 🇧🇻 🤡 ☹️
@@hyperguyver2 I mean, they used to go around and rob people of their wealth and livelihoods, so it still kinda checks out.
Even Pewdiepie was surprised how fragile Swedes had become as he said “We used to be vikings for goodness sake “
Decades of emotionalism, virtue signaling, and unwillingness to face reality will do that to a society. As the old saying goes, "Weak men make for hard times."
Pewds doesn't really strike me as much of a macho man himself, but he's right - good times make weak men.
@@kgjung2310 Decades? More like centuries of Lutheran brainrot.
Psyop societal programming.
They need a bring back the vikings counter-psyop!
Anyone who has fantasies about Norway being a paradise to live in, has never had to deal with NAV.
Send Norway more migrants! Migrants love it there!
@@slee2819 Isn't that half the issue mentioned in this video?
@@TheREALSimagination Yes but the wokesters love migrants so they should get as many as they can get.
These are homogenous societies of sheltered people who are not net drains on the taxpayer. Its allowed the ruling class to develop their luxury, socialist beliefs because they force others to pay the bill.
Soon they’ll reach a tipping point of what the productive people are able or willing to pay for, then you’ll see a paradigm shift.
Damn straight man . NAV is a hellhole open from 12:00 to 12:01 and if you have a question the only way to ask that question is by phone or web . My securitas here will show you the way out
"Anyone who has fantasies about Norway being a paradise to live in".
Globally speaking, it is.
Yours sincerely, "the southern neighbor".
Norway is no longer the same country it used to be, and it’s not just the wealthy who are leaving but also the “working class.”
I work as a civil engineer, and since 2020, Norway has lost about one-third (if not two-thirds) of its workers from Poland and Lithuania in the construction industry.
It has become so absurd that we can no longer find skilled workers like we once had.
Additionally, the workload has increased because many companies are struggling. My position used to be handled by three engineers, and now I’m working alone. It’s incredibly stressful and has a significant impact on my family life.
The Norwegian krone has lost around 23% of its value against the euro since 2019, and people from European countries that were once a major source of labor for Norway no longer see the financial sense in living and working here. With such high costs and wages no longer amounting to €3,000 for 30,000 NOK but rather €2,550, it’s simply not worth it for them.
On top of all that, a former prime minister announced, “We’ll give 1,000 billion NOK from the oil fund to Ukraine,” showing a complete detachment from reality.
There is also manipulation of statistics to prevent people from seeing how much prices have really increased. The focus is always on comparing price increases over the past year or two, but 2019-2020 is never mentioned. Many things have doubled in price over the last five years.
My wife and I have started transitioning our work to online platforms, and we’ll likely sell one of our apartments next summer and leave Norway because this illusion has become unbearable.
My mother’s parents are Serbs who lived in Norway but moved back to Serbia to enjoy their retirement.
We used to visit Serbia at least once a year, and last year we tried living there for two months. We enjoyed it, and most importantly, our children liked it much better there. We’ve started preparing for migration.
I believe that with online income similar to our salaries in Norway and an apartment we can rent out, we can have a much better life elsewhere.
Here, life has turned into a vicious cycle of work and bills.
The mismanagement of the Norwegian Krone in the Foreign exchange rate pushed away Polish and Lithuanian workers. It was better and they could earn more money if they just worked int heir home country
So they live on norwegian pension - in Serbia..?
"The Norwegian krone (...) euro since 2019"
And around 40 % since 2003. At that point it cost around 7,50. Now it's been around 12. The USD cost about 6,50 and now it's above 11. No wonder everything gets more expensive when almost everything is imported.
"There is also (...) have really increased."
Apparently they omit housing costs from inflation measurements. I guess it got too unfomfortable.
@@knrdvmmlbkkn
I completely agree, and this is a topic in itself.
My wife and I are fortunate to have inherited an apartment, and both of us managed to buy our own properties in our early 20s. Later, we sold them to purchase a large family home when we got married and started our life together.
But when I hear about people paying 20,000 NOK in rent plus electricity or heating costs "a-konto" for apartments of just 50-60 square meters, I can’t help but wonder-how much does a family need to earn to live a normal life?
20,000 NOK for rent, probably another 10,000-15,000 NOK for electricity, food, internet, phones, insurance, and so on.
Where does that leave room for monthly transport passes or a car? What about clothes and shoes? Extracurricular activities for the kids? A trip to the cinema, a dinner at a restaurant, or something similar?
A family without their own home needs at least 50,000 NOK per month just to maintain a decent standard of living.
This is no longer the Norway we used to know. It’s turned into a form of wage slavery, where people are forced to work just to pay their bills and maintain a basic lifestyle. Not everyone earns an engineer’s salary like I do or holds a high-paying position. What about service workers? Aren’t they entitled to a decent life as well?
If you fall behind even slightly, your quality of life is ruined, and this constant fear looms over so many people. It wasn’t like this before.
I feel genuinely sorry when I see what this country has turned into because of incompetent politicians. Actually, calling them incompetent might not be fair-they know exactly what they’re doing. We always pride ourselves on the idea that there’s no corruption in Norway. Sure, there’s no "petty corruption," but if you look beyond everyday people to the ties between politics and industry, the level of corruption is staggering.
All of this just frustrates me and makes me deeply sad.
As a Norwegian I agree that our government is nothing to brag about.But this is happening all over the world.I am grateful to live here, I bought my house alone at 28, and have no problem paying for all my expences alone.I eat fresh,locally made food every day, and have nature at my doorstep.I feel very safe, and live a peaceful life.
with this agenda - not for long
@ermakov2009 I hope and think the tide is turning ....
I wonder if perhaps this poster has not had the pleasure of an acquaintance with the grooming gangs and is this still hearing the lullaby of the past. Bless his heart.
Absolutely true
Same, a lot or Norwegians live peaceful lives and make enough to live comfortably.
My sister married a Norgie and moved from the States to your country. She told me how wonderful it is and how everything is covered. She then mentioned how she drives 2 hours to Sweden every week to stock up on groceries and other supplies because everything is so expensive.
It still hasn't clicked with her.
That's a common experience in Norway. Yes, living costs are high here, but the real issue is the government's policies that make it even harder for businesses and individuals. The tax system, heavy regulations, and a focus on welfare over economic growth have created a tough environment, especially for entrepreneurs and the wealthy. High taxes, combined with expensive everyday goods, leave many feeling burdened.
On top of that, the welfare system, while extensive, has its flaws. For instance, even people with 100% disability are expected to work, which isn’t feasible for many. Disability benefits are modest and often not enough to live comfortably. For example, someone living with a spouse will have their benefits reduced because the system expects the partner to support them financially. This can leave disabled individuals in a difficult financial position.
Additionally, if you’re married, the government may take a portion of your benefits due to the combined income of the couple, which discourages people from relying on their partner’s support. It’s a system that, in many ways, makes it harder for families to thrive financially, especially when living costs are so high.
this is just a few of the insane policies in Norway
@frodehorgen2519 Jesus, I didn't realize it was that bad.
I guess your sister married a man with a better income. Then the reality isn't that bad... yet. Current policies doesn't have immediate effect, it takes time. 70% of norways population has a job and salary that is directly controlled by the government. There is very few "real private" jobs. The government is "very good" at micromanaging the economy. The government create tenders and hand them out to friendly companies that do their bidding. Everything is controlled to the last detail in an incredibly system.
If you know capitalism, like Mises, Hayek, Sowell, and all the "irrelevant" experts, then you know that the government make stupid decisions and create ineffective systems. It doesn't fall apart over night. It takes time.
There is already less jobs. Salary is not growing enough. There is tampering with statistics. The currency has crashed like 25%. Electricity price has exploded. The list is very long. There is no incentive to start a business or hire people any more.
The judicial system is taken over by EU. The laws are from WEF/USA/UN/EU. Everything is made expensive on purpose. Flat tyre? A simple patch is no no. 4 new wheels.
@frodej6640 Her husband is an officer in the military, so they get that government check in addition to her working. She also mentioned the electricity limits within her house when I offered her an old PC of mine. (Again, still has yet to click with her.)
Anyways, with what you've said, it's really no longer a question of if your economy will collapse, but when. I always thought the oil & gas industry was the only thing keeping Norway's head above water, but it's clear you have people in charge that are hell-bent on seeing your country drown.
@@Flession it wont collapse we have the wealth fund, but just like you we have to vote inn the right party. we have our own AOCs to deal with
Old Norway: Vikings, New Norway: Wokings
Old vikings raided and plundered foreign peoples.
New vikings raid and plunder domestic people.
That's funnier...
but I think "wokidiots" might be more accurate... and I don't mean just Norway.
Norway got mass converted to Christianity and lost their balls a thousand years ago. Then the black death killed most of the population and the royalty. Then they spent 500+ years owned by Denmark and then Sweden before they became independent again. Then they continued as a frozen backwater fishing village until they became the Beverly Hillbillies post WWII because of oil.
Amazing how profound a difference just two letters can make 🤦🏾♂🤷🏾♂
Gotta take "kings" out of it, though. "Woklings" could work
I love this kind of video. As a Brazilian who moved to Florida, I can understand what a overreaching government is.
How did you move to Florida ? Asking for immigration tips
@@Alex777-ei2qq I had it easy. My family is from Brazil, I was born in Hartford, Connecticut and grew up in Brazil after my parents divorce.
Yes. I like these just as well if not better.
Are you talking about the book banning or removing parts of history from the curriculum in Florida? 😅
@@bentontramell There has never been any book banning in Florida. Deciding that a book shouldn't be in the school library int banning a book. Everyone can still purchase it, buy it in a book store, or a public library. Only liberals call it book banning to make it sound like something it's not. Not all books are appropriate for children. That doesnt mean they are banned. And all history will be taught. No need to dwell on the parts liberals love to exaggerate.
I came to Norway as a migrant worker in 2017. Had a low paying job and lived by myself in Oslo. I never worried about paying my bills, enjoyed nights out with friends, sponsored multiple hobbies, paid for holidays for myself and my mom, and managed to save around 100k in a year. Fast forward to 2024, and I struggle to save any money at all, I go to 0 every month. Wtf happened, Norway?
agenda 2030
Sounds like it's on you.
Its over boys. Norway has fallen to immigration
I was shocked when I went to Oslo in 2003. When I rode the metro, each platform we arrived at was covered in a sea burqas. Coming from Texas, I had never seen a full burqa in real life before that. Needless to say, I knew Norway had already fallen. The other shocking part was I had to pay $50 for a very sub-par pizza that was delivered to me (this was 21 years ago). I have absolutely no reason to ever go there again.
@@marcv2648 sadly, if something isn't done about blackrock and/or vanguard and the people leading the globalists that have bought the EU, and most politicians and media outlets, then this type of thing will be coming to Texas.
Sweden can have Oslo if they want to, feels like i'm in the middle east every time i go there.
Western and northern Norway are next if the immigration doesn't stop.
Some countries are trying to het rid of their food producing Farmers and Norway is trying to get rid of their entrepreneurs, Bravo Norway!
Its because they dont have a good production 😂😂😂
@@rasmusmeng2363 Does not matter, your either self sufficient or dead.
It's not like we are not going to have another massive EMP event again, we just don't know when as we have not had technology affected by it long enough to determine a probable interval.
It sounds like the UK bizarrely wants the farms that they will cause to go on sale to go to large equity funds.
They're screwing the farmers here too
Sweetie, the farmers here are screwed over too....
This really reminds me of 70's Sweden, where the leading party, The Social Democrats got so cocky they ended up taxing business owners over 100%.
This lead to Astrid Lindgren (the children's author behind Pippi Longstocking) writing a short story about a greedy witch, aluding to the party in the biggest newspaper in the country. Mind you, Lindgren was up until that point a proud supporter of the party, and in no way a "greedy capitalist" who wanted all the wealth for herself.
Things changed a little bit for the better after that, but Sweden is still, just like Norway, not an easy country to become successful in.
Thank you for your the info. and insight m8, I did not know any of this.
That was not business taxes but personal taxes I believe? And why do only business leaders count? What about the hell about 25 percent of the lowest part of the population live in, in your belived pro business countries? Except Switzerland, but that is an edge case.
More people should look up the 70's Sweden socialist debacle.
For some reason they they think it is a socialist country. High taxes does not equal socialism.
@@steinarvilnes3954 The reason Lindgren could be taxed over 100% was that she was an author and, therefore, a private business owner. The common worker wasn't taxed nearly as much for obvious reasons.
The rest of your comment makes no sense, are you asking me if I want Sweden to become like Switzerland or what will happen with the poorest in the country with low taxes?
@@TGFalk I am not talking like Switzerland, but the US, Chile or Singapore. I simply do not see any country except Switzerland like that, that is liveable for almost everyone.
It seems to me that everyone that make it easier for succesfull people, also disdain weakness or even mediocrity.
Im from Norway and i dont even buy groceries. I just hunt and use the recorsess from my farm. I dont use a dime on anything, and im slowly saving upp money to expand my farm (by being finantially culibat
Godt å høre! Prøver selv å ikke consume så mye å ikke kjøpe all verden av ting enn det jeg har bruk for. Lykke til med savinga!
The problem with mass 3rd world migration is that it has crippled europe and massive taxes are the only thing that can touch the sides. Each migrant benefits the UK a net negative half a million during their lifetime so will be worse in Norway
That and they are importing an age old enemy of Europe that has been trying to conquer it since 711.
The problem is, what has caused mass 3rd world migrations last 50 years.
@@arostwocents EUSSR kalergi plan.
As a Norwegian living and working in the UK, I used to be proud of being Norwegian, but that's years ago. Now, I am just embarrassed about everything the politicians does to the country. Even the royal family doesn't escape ridicule. I was an avid supporter of the royal family and was proud of our king and queen. Now I just want to abolish the whole thing. No responsibility whatsoever on the media storm they are currently in. Just silence and blind tolerance of what is going on, and d**eneracy all the way, without addressing anything. I bet King Olav would spin in his grave if he saw the state of the family now.
At least I am not living in Norway anymore, but I got family and friends over there still, and it pains me to see what the country has become. I will vote in the general election next year, and I am definitely voting for FRP now. Everything to get the socialists out of parliament.
Things are somewhat bad in the UK as well, but it's miles better here than back home, at least! I can keep a bigger chunk of my salary, and I can pile up my savings without worry. I've even encouraged some of my family members to look for work outside Norway. Just leave before it's too late.
Britain is pretty bad as well. The US is the place to be. Things are changing for the better very quickly now, since Trump won.
I was born and still live in Norway and we have a very high tax rate, but we also have a lot of extra costs like municipal fees and something called a "TV license" which gives you a channel called NRK which not many people watch but is forced to pay for today even if you don't have a TV since they put it in the tax. They take 34% of the normal salary and if you don't have a tax card they will take 50% of your salary. If you have a home in Norway, it is easy to feel that after tax and deductions, you only have around 7-15% of your salary left that can be used for what you want which depends on the job you have. The food prices here have gone really high up these last years and the state refuses to find a solution to lower prices.
The state wonders why more than 40-60% of the population drives to Sweden to shop for food. If you try to buy 2 Kg chicken breasts in Norway the cheapest I've found costs 30 dollars and in Sweden, it only costs around 14-15 dollars (That's Half Price!) So the only thing the state thinks will solve this problem is to raise prices here in Norway even higher... For them, the solution is (High prices can only be solved with even higher prices) Sounds stupid because it is stupid...
If you have a large fortune, you must pay wealth tax. If what you have in your savings account and other things you own such as a house or car or shares does not exceed 1.5 million NOK (135 150 dollars today), you do not have to pay wealth tax. If you receive interest on your savings, you must pay tax on this gain. So now is even better to have an account in Sweden because there is no wealth taxes there. Norway is going to take itself out because of all the different taxes we have here.
The TV license was abolished almost 5 years ago, though we are still indirectly taxed for it because now NRK is paid directly from the state budget.
Also you didn't even mention VAT, which is 25% on (almost) everything. I hope you realise there are many countries and in the US many states that don't have a VAT at all.
We had the same crap in Switzerland with the "tv license" even if you didn't have a TV at home. Those countries have become unlivable, unless you are an African refugee....Big salaries, but taxes from all sides, specially the insurances that are so costly. Feels like becoming a milking cow...Not a good time to be white in Europe....I think they do it on purpose to discourage white people from having kids, while opening the borders wide open. Call me racist, i don't care. That is just the truth.
@@vhaarr Yeah, I already know that. That's why I said they put it in the tax. The TV license was in use until 2020 when it was replaced by funding through a progressive tax. So instead of one household, every taxpayer is paying for it (more for them, I guess). And VAT (Value added tax) for goods in Norwegian stores and also the VOEC for everything we buy outside of Norway. If some web shops outside of Norway don't have VOEC we have to pay a customs fee for the item also... And even if a shop has a VOEC there are still limits for how much you can buy before you need to pay a customs fee as well.
I am a foreigner here and I dislike norway and norwegian culture. I cannot wait to leave and the only norwegian i ever have to see again is my wife. This country produces the worst people ive ever met.
@@vhaarr There still is state tax on goods in USA, they don't call it VAT but the prices at the store does not show the taxes so you think its cheap but they can be up to about 7-8% on state taxes. Most ecconomies do have VAT.
A "socialist wall of shame" should be considered a "wall of honor of common sense".
Im sure they consider it that way.
lol, yes exactly, i was commenting the same 😀
Whoa there, cool it with the anti-semitism!
They're mad they couldn't leech them all in time
@@amalekedomite Im not seeing any Jews. You think the crazy blond commie is jewish? You cool it.
Norwegian here. Another banger of a video. And it gives a very nice and straight to the point explanation on current Norwegian tax, and economical policies.
Cheers 🍻
I'm just a regular working class Norwegian, and I've never really been into politics. However, in the last few years I have had this uneasy feeling that something is definitely wrong. Small hints here and there, for example, that it seems that several of our so-called leaders working in top positions in government have been caught cheating on their final exams, which probably has been a great factor in helping them get into the governmental positions in the first place.
Another example is that it we send a lot of our money to aid Ukraine in the war. I do believe that it's good to help others but it shouldn't come at the expense of ourselves. A recent newspaper article said that the salary of the governmental jobs have increased by 40% in the last few years, and at the same time many schools and educational institutions are being considered to be shut down because of money problems.
I don't know if our government have much control anymore on where our oil money is being invested in. We want to support deforestation of the Amazon rainforest, but it turns out that we have been sponsoring the Brazilian government in stopping that, but at the same time sponsored the companies that are responsible for the deforestation itself.
I feel that Norway right now is like a shell that looks nice on the outside but is completely empty on the inside. Small cracks are beginning to form and if one peaks closer at those cracks one can see that there's definitely something wrong. If we continue this way, at some point everything is going to fall apart.
I’m noticing the change in my workspace.. as a bus driver, there’s always a lack of drivers, so we took in new employees from Poland, and also NAV ran campaigns to help refugees get work by giving them free courses.. helping them getting the bus driver liscense.. and we celebrated for new employees joining the fold.. this year the celebration changed to celebrating the ppl of colors joining.. with natural born Norwegians getting just a small profile picture in the bottom. And then they do questionaires and surveys about those other ethnicities because “it’s important to know your co-workers culture”… its so bad now that the central office where all drivers call in to report situations is staffed by 80% non Norwegians.. and more often then not i have to struggle with conveying my message in simplified sentences and summarizing situations because they can’t handle large amount of info usually conveyed in a normal conversation…
In South Africa if you are a business owner, make $100, you get taxed 28%, leaving you $72, if you take that $72 as income it is taxed at 30%, meaning you net $47 of the original $100.
With the $47, if you use it to buy groceries you pay 17.5% VAT... meaning government takes a further $9 of your money in taxes. In total, of the original $100 YOU made:
- Government gets $62
- You get $38
But it does end there. The $38 you used for groceries is income to the grocer. Right? He pays 28% of that to government in company tax... and if HE wants to draw a salary, he pays a further 30% income tax.
So government takes $10 from the company, and $9 as income tax from the grocer...
Meaning by this point government has taken 10 + 9 + 62 = $81 of the original $100!
Why would ANY entrepreneur stay?
In Finland you have a rather bizarre situation in wages as well. Nominally income tax is quite low for median earners, on 40k income tax would be ~16%, but with another 8% tacked on top for mandatory "retirement insurance" and "unemployment insurance", only the person can't decide when to retire for themslves, the state sets the minimum retirement age, and keep raising it. So 24% income tax, that doesn't sound bad, right? Only there are so many pre-wage and post-wage taxation and fee mechanics, that in studies they found the total tax burden compared to nominal wage is over 70% these days, for an average married worker who owns a car and has a kid. Higher still if you don't have dependents. And pretty much every year the government lives beyond its means, and much like Norway, squanders and outright wastes a good chunk of it. But you can't get rid of socialists without another civil war, so the decline cannot be stopped.
@@MichaelDothoso In South Africa 4 million people pay income tax. Of those 1 million pay over 2/3rds of it. Meanwhile 28 million people draw free benefits with no strings attached. 14 million of those say they can't find work but in actuality they reject menial jobs and would rather get the benefits which include free water, free electricity, free housing, free education, free healthcare.
Meanwhile, taxpayers pay 28%-45% income tax depending on income. then 17.5% tax on purchases. 5-6% levies for buying fuel. 1% contribution to road accident fund, there's a tax on property, tax if you own/hire a tv even if you don't watch the national broadcaster, tax on solar installations(!!!!!). There is a law now that all taxpayers with private medical aid will have their medical aid taken over by government and the funds will be shared with those who don't pay...because "that is fair". There was similar debate intended to introduce a law to do the same with retirement funds: take from those who saved up and distribute across everyone including those who didn't contribute.
We've done the math too. For every $1 we make here, 67% of it ends up as tax. The taxpayers cannot out-vote the non-contributors because its a 1 million taxpayers versus 56 million non-payers battle.
So, in summary, women and blacks shouldn't run countries. I agree.
And in Sauth africa.big problems whit electric....
In Skandinavia we have high tax but good electric...😊
@@AlternativPerspectivI'm from SA, just for correction we have 8 million registered tax payers, the rest 50 mil loafers from all over africa. Vat is currently 15% not 17%. The rest is about correct, also if you are a white male you have bo choice to get your own business due to the racist BEE laws preventing any white person from an equal opportunity competing against a 80% black majority. Many are leaving which means it gets harder by the year as the taxpayer numbers drop. Sad to see our once beautiful country evaporste before our eyes.
As an Argentinian who proudly voted for Javier Milei, I must tell you this: he won mainly because our country was so mismanaged, that SOMEONE had to deal with it, and only an outsider like him could. He is doing an amazing job.
The bad news is that it took us 20 years to understand that socialism is bad, and I’m quite pessimistic about this. My fear is that in Norway will only learn the harsh way that socialism only brings misery, unless a Norwegian Javier Milei manages to convince most of the population that their ways are wrong and need to return to capitalism, that is.
I love your channel, keep talking about your country more often, Andre. Best of luck to you and the people of Norway.
Edit: thanks to the positive comments, and I also enjoy seeing people saying I’m wrong even though I’m living through it all. The guy reduced inflation to numbers we haven’t seen before, fighting against crime and corruption despite having a judicial and legislative system that is preventing him from doing the reforms we need to fix our broken economy, due to decades of shitty governments.
so amazing that half the country eats out of dumpsters now
I sincerely wish all success to Javier Milei, I am Brazilian and I see that we are drifting back to the 1980s hyperinflation. We need a shinny example on what can be accomplished by a libertarian government so we too can vote on a Brazilian Javier Milei.
@@mervstash3692Half of the population was already eating from the dumpsters 20 years ago. We finally have someone who is trying to fix a broken economy, can’t say the same of previous governments. Instead of speaking without knowing anything about what my country has been, I suggest you at least investigate for yourself first, to understand why we are where we are, so you don’t make the same mistakes as us.
Amazing job, more than half the population in poverty?
@@the_princeps.3452 20 years ago was the aftermath of the last free market president Menem I guess?
All of Europe is going to hell.
Dutch citizens and businesses are also fleeing the country because they're taxed an regulated to death.
We also get te law that you need to pay the Dutch taxes for 5 years after escaping the country.
Anarchocapitalism is not anarchism.
@@steinarvilnes3954 Only because an-cap has property rights, otherwise not very different.
@@jeannahayescook9375 But the property right makes a HUGE difference.
I think some parts of east- europa will survive and also Switzerland🤗
They tax you for all those “Drs and engineers “ they bringing in to the country.
I too am Norwegian. This could be greatest country on earth, ever. Sadly, and i'm going to make a huge claim here and say that Norway is the most corrupt country in the world. 5 million population but our number of politicians is much greater than that of Denmark. We have politicians that are willingly making the lives of the population worse, and they do it knowingly too. Politicians in Norway (even in the labour party..) has zero work experience. They go from school, usually from a wealthy, out of touch family straight into office.
Great reporting thank you
An exit tax is a monumentally stupid idea because it increases the risk for future investors. No one is going to want to take the risk of bringing their business into Norway if they have to add a 37% penalty tax on top of the possibility of the venture not being profitable.
Don't worry, you must be living in Norway.
It's not like the companies disappeared along with the biggest boys moving to Switzerland.
Just the pressure on the company to produce 2-3% of it's total value just so the owner can pay the damn fortune tax.
@@torgrimhanssen5100 That's not what the video said. A company would be taxed 37.8% of the value of everything a company owns in Norway prior to leaving. Meaning that if you're a foreign investor that spent money to set up a business in Norway and it fails, they will tax you 37.8% of your investment to close shop and leave.
@@OmegaZyion Not sure where the confusion is.
You can't own a company in Norway, be Norwegian and live in Norway.
As long as you don't live in Norway, no problem, if your not Norwegian, even better for the companies tax burden.
@@torgrimhanssen5100 Maybe it has something to do with owning property in a country means you are subject to the same tax laws as everyone else in that country. Y'know, like how 99% of the world does it.
@@OmegaZyion "No one is going to want to take the risk of bringing their business into Norway" I think your confusing your own context.
The exit tax, fortune tax etc. won't affect a foreign investor building a company in Norway.
Foreign investment is fleeing for a different reason.
As a recent arrival to Norway (not an immigrant, I moved for work), I absolutely concur. The country's leadership is a complete mess and are unable to take a look at the problems the country faces objectively.
That's the very definition of an immigrant.
Then why live here?
Why indeed... Such a typical Norwegian bootlicker answer 🤦 Norge er best, ingen protest! I wish I knew the truth before accepting the contract here. The image of Norway abroad is (or at least was back when I moved) positive. But you can't smell the shit from the outside of the toilet. Believe me, I've had enough of Norway and Norwegians, the weak krone, the traffic jams, the unreliable public transport (signal fel, my ass), and the lack of variety in stores. Only one brand allowed in the communist monopoly! And don't get me started on downtown Oslo! Might as well move to Asia, at least the cost of living would match the surroundings... But keep voting for the left, Backwards thinking Mårten, the brain-drain will eventually make Norway a Socialist Utopia! Heja Norge... I'll leave before then, as will most of my peers.
Hej Mårten... Typical Norwegian "Norge er best, ingen protest" attitude. 🤦My original reply seems to have been deleted. Let me tone it down, so as not offend anyone 🤐 Believe me, if I had known all of what's wrong with Norway before accepting the position here, I wouldn't have come. The problen is, you can't smell the sh*t from outside the toilet. You seem like a typical Norwegian, so I'll give you a free piece of advice: keep voting for the left! Norway will eventually turn into the real Socialist Utopia you seem to be hoping for! Meanwhile, the Brain-Drain will continue, local and foreign professionals will leave Norway, the weak krone, the Signal Fel in the trains, the laughably poor selection of goods in stores etc. for something less stagnated. Maybe to go to Asia. Downtown Oslo certainly has already acclimatised me to it, so why not. There, at least, the cost of living would match the surroundings...
For some reason, my replies keep getting deleted. Whatever, your answer is such a typical "Heja Norge" bootlicker answer, that I'll just say that I'm not planning on staying here for much longer. Norway looked good from the outside, but you can't smell the shit from outside the toilet either. Read the rest of the comments to get an idea why Norway isn't worth it anymore. Weak krone, poorly run public transport system, sad grocery store selection, and the cost of living around Oslo is way too high, especially for the "South Asian" experience. Might as well move to the Middle East after this, I've been acclimatised by Grønnland already.
As a Brit working on Norwegian oil rigs I'm endlessly mystified by the way Norway has managed to sleepwalk towards recession without addressing any of the problems. The signs are not yet really biting the internal economy but they will more and more. The idea that the oil fund will make everything OK is just madness...
Oh, but it will in the minds of the economically illiterate who see it's magnitude increase every time inflation increases (It is written in USD).
They get to spend a few more billions on the budget not realizing they lost an order of magnitude in tax revenue.
Madness has gripped pretty much all of Europe, it's not better where you come from either. Still, regardless of how bad this looks I think Norway can easily turn this around in the next election.
Well Norway would be still a fishing village without the oil.
@@Selendeki that is not how Norwegian politics work.
We have had 2 major 2 small party coalitions for a while as nobody is different enough to get majority.
Practically, in Norway you vote left or right ticket.
Unless Frp receive 51% of the votes, they must cooperate with a party who thinks this madness is good.
1,6 trillions can make a lot things better for a long time. It's about 8 times their GDP.
I moved to Sweden despite the crazy taxes and policies but Norway sounds like an absolute nightmare in comparison.
Also, I find it disturbing that Norgesgruppen, Rema, and Coop are 95% of the food/grocery market, and they were recently fined for price collaboration.
I've heard it's almost impossible for new ones to get in the market
Yes, Lidl tried, and gave up! I loved that shop!
same in Oz two big ones run the market here, Aldi here now, but not enough by a long shot.
don't forget that they sell same products in the shops. That is infinite loop
How the hell you guys went from being vikings to being ruled by angry karens is beyond me. Good luck out there fixing this.
A lot can happen in a thousand years. Though to be fair, the best of vikings went on to become kings and queens in Europe, and continue to be to this day.
giving women's rights. Feminism. Female ideas. eg. socialism. etc
Norwegian women overwhelmingly vote Left. Men, also young men, increasingly vote Right. In the next major election, in 2025, the government very likely will be right wing (and Israeli friendly).
Half of Norway went to USA in the 1800s.. I think they are doing very well there
@@MidnightsEdge Interesting point,why haven't successfull vikings brought their foreign brides to Norway and stayed there? I never ever wanted to leave my country but war happened so I fled and now at 63 I'm going back.
"I'm so scared of being called names that I will sacrifice EVERYTHING to support THE MESSAGE"
- Norway
- Norway AND the entire West (except Poland) ✏️
So, Norway became Brazil. How nice. Edit: actually, it looks worse.
She says the lockdowns are the cause of the wealth issues in Norway...but the government created and enforced the lockdowns. Therefore according to her, the government created a problem that the government is now using as a reason to exert more and more authoritarian control.
the pandemic enforced the goverment
Thank you for this video. I been screaming that Norway destroying the middle class and the benefits. If you get sick or hurt if and worked and paid 40% tax all your life your benefits are under the level you are in the category as poor in Norway. But migrants get things worth 10.000$ at least when they come. They get free license cost a norwegian 18 year old 5000$ and free dentist that are 500$ if you need to do something small Norway have the most expensive dentist in Europe and norwegians go to Thailand, Poland or Turki or Spain to fix the teeth to save money. But in 5 years the Norwegian government put up the price for 1€ from 7NOK to 12NOK!! That will say that the elderly that live in Spain just lost half their pensjon in a few year's. And they lived under the poor rate before they cut the benefits. Now they are dying like flies because they can't afford food and doctor and medicine. If they make paper you move to Spain to get cheaper medicine and doctor then Norway will take away a lot of your benefits from norway🤯
I have had two good friends die in a short time, one of kidney failure and one found dead. Its terrible stories down here where i hear old people kill themselves in shame after grandma or grandpa dont have money to buy their grandkids present for birthday and Christmas like they had afford to for some years ago. Norway is destroying expenses must be the only reason and people on pensjon is just an expense so when they passes they have more money to give to EU and Green Energy. Nexst month i need to move out after having a cheap apartment but norway suddenly backtaxed me 1100 dollars (almoast half my benefits) and me and my dog need to live in a apartment with 2 other Spanish guys to save some money. I had this month take out my savings for presents to some of my sisters kids in Norway and my dog have tumor and she should be in hospital but Norwegian taxing just made it worse i only got to pay my rent and my medecine and had to take oit money from that accont really hurts when i lock at Bella and see she not so good. Am 41 years old. Broken but i was a fisherman on boats and i don't want to retiring now especially when i cant live hand have food out the month. Its a so much bigger story here then just tax. What other reason would Norway take away half their pension or benefits?? they have worked hard in Norway and som up in 60 years and paid 36+% in taxes and this is the thank you from Norway. Its not fair and i been at my breaking point where i want to est all my sleeping pills after the stress for try surviving just to next month. Its hard every day and the anxiety that Norway want more money. Would you live like this the rest of your life? Never tougth i would live like this after working and paid tax from i was 15 years old. Now Norway want me gone👀 Now out walk a trip with Bella❤
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While im not a fan of unrestricted capitalism, this is fucking insane and as a german living in the former communist part of my ocuntry, the erich Honecker comparison Was brilliant
“Unrestricted”, you use such nasty language! "[B]y directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention. Nor is it always the worse for the society that it was not part of it. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it. I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good."
Unrestricted capitalism is better than restricted capitalism, with one caveat: so long as the corporations do not gain influence over the state. The problem with regulation is that it is used to cripple competition and benefit the wealthiest and most successful. Knowing this, the only restriction capitalism needs is for business to be unaffiliated and unaligned with the state. It is with the state's permission that monopolies form, because monopolies only exist in environments where the state puts its thumb on the scale to prevent the growth of competition in a free market.
@@Kanaleah The issue with unrestricted capitalism is the poverty of a large minority, bad working conditions, many not having access to healthcare and such.
Capitalism is simply the process of someone with capital making a present investment for future returns. The issue is that people have this bizarre tendency to confuse capitalism with human desire.
@steinarvilnes3954 Capitalism is an economic system based on private property. Not whatever marxist disinformation you are receiving.
A Norwegian here with no hope for the future due to how far left and socialist the country is becoming. I'd love to move to the USA's midwest at some point.
me too. I want to move to USA any, any corner will do haha
@@larslover6559 Well, the states are wildly different with their laws. Some a lot more socialist in their policies than others (very high taxes), so I'd look into that and avoid those! Especially west-coast states should probably be avoided.
@@LethalOwl Come to Tennessee! We'd be happy to have you. 😎
god bye!
Stem Norgesdemokratene! Les deres partiprogram!
Those exit taxes are horrid, I remember hearing CA tried that once and it didn’t work well. Then again they had agents digging through people’s garbage looking for receipts. I liked this video and would watch others like it. I’m from Asia originally but living in the states. So hearing about different parts of the world and their economy is quite interesting. More so from someone who lives there.
@juliettek California has enacted a law that affects people and/or businesses leaving the state, but is not a fee to leave the state but to MOVE OUT OF THE STATE. It is also my understanding that the charge will go on for a number of years after the escape from California.
My family moved to NO in 2006. I left when I was 24 and I'm never moving back.
Our government also invited their buddies from taliban over for a friendly chat. And also recognised a palestinian state, as one of three countries to do so, without giving any second thoughts as to what that mean. They are so desperate to "be the nicest" and to take the morale high ground that they forget the politcal implications behind it, and who our real allies are in terms of real values and culture. Its infuriating to say the least. The election cannot come faster, we need it, yesterday.
Businesses in Norway are so poor they can't afford to buy vowels for all their words!
Norway's schyt idiotic government: "Let us enact a financial Berlin Wall."
Same situation in Sweden sadly. Finland isn't too far off either but I know Denmark has been changing course for the better these past years.
I was just talking about dystopian movies and shows with my girl. She was comparing reality to these fictions. I explained to her that all dystopian stories can be seen in reality somewhere in the world.
1984 - North Korea
The Handmaiden’s Tale - Iran
Cyberpunk 2077 - USA
Atlas Shrugged - Norway
I know a Norwegian in America who claims to be a leftist yet seems to enjoy the perks of keeping all of his money. You always have the choice of giving away 100% of your income and yet you don't. Why is that? Thanks for sharing Truth.
Wait.... You mean the Property taxes paid by American's is seen as extra evil Norway?
I just had to pay $2400 for the joy of not being homeless and I didn't get to deduct my mortgage.
We have property tax as well, the fortune tax comes on top of that!
go watch michael bodanero. he interviewed a few real estate lawyers.
qrd: you need raise the issue with your state to have it in writing that you don't agree with the evaluations, with the result of getting turned down.
what's important is the documentation and disagreement not the result.
@@leoSaunders Parents fought this before and we ended up losing and had to pay the states legal fees (court fees) on top.
@@tillmanadkins713 I can't tell you all the minutiae but there seems to be a movement going on now where a collective is fighting PT. maybe you already did your part and just need to annex.
I suggest you to go watch these Michael videos.
@@MidnightsEdge It is worth nothing that for your primacy residence there is a significant valuation discount for fortune tax, as well as that the property tax, if any, is set at the local council level with a federal mandated cap of max 1%. It get's exponentially worse once you venture into owning multiple properties.
Would say this is VERY important and needs to be talked more about. Scandinavia can be a wonderful place, but if the governments are this careless and stupid, people need to be made aware of it.
I really loved Norway when I was there
20 years ago
I second this. I still have some close relatives there and I dread visiting them. Oslo in particular is a dystopian mess of tagged buildings and trains, unimaginative, bleak modern architecture and random street crime. No thanks! Or in my dialect, Eg takker nei!
Norway has seriously declined in a lot of ways over the last two decades, culturally, socially, economically, demographically. It's gotten to the point that I don't recognize my own country any more.
@@fakenorwegian4743 what is wrong whit you?
@@janus1124 enig!
Yes we like videos like this Andre 👍
Here in Pennsylvania i pay 6k a year for my house in the form of taxes. The nicer the house the more you pay. It's always been that way. Not including the pay tax, food, utilities, and every day things. Basically about 60% of what everyone makes goes to taxes. We all have a breaking point. And they are pushing up towards it. I think it's happening right now. Considering that on top of taxes we now have to think, act and speak a very specific way.
Didn't California also levy a BS exit tax as well?
They tried.
@@seecomer4599 And no doubt they are still trying.
California’s chickens shall come to roost.
Doesn't the US tax their citizens world wide, unless they rescind their citizenship ? Very few banks want to touch anyone with a US passport.
@@iRelevant.47.system.boycott U.S. tax law is a complicated thing. Expats who still maintain their U.S. citizenship are required to file a return every year. But keep in mind that around half of the people who file every year are not subject to any income tax under U.S. law. SO, there might be some U.S. citizens living over seas who do pay some income tax. But many of them are not required to pay any even though they are required to file a return every year.
Norway could have been a great place to live and do business, but no. Only the STATE is to be rich, the rest of us get to live in a dystopia that hates freedom and economic growth.
Which countries do you think is so much better to live in then?
@steinarvilnes3954 That is an interesting question. However, it's not really the issue. I live in Norway and will continue to do so, so I'll just have to suck it up, won't I?
@@GreenKnight2001 But is sounds interesting you complain, and still cannot find a better country? Especially if you want one without retarded politicans.
@@steinarvilnes3954He should just shut up and enjoy his socialist utopia, eh?
@@trevorrogers95 So some suffering is needed for you to get an erection?
My great grandfather came from Norway he was peder Pederson and settled in 1900 in Minnesota changing his last name from Pederson to Peterson where I get my last name
When I was growing up back in the 80s in Norway my grandparent's neighbors were the Pederson's, lol
Pederson sounds more ike a Swedish last name. The Norwegian equivalent woud be Pedersen. Just a FYI
@@audirene Yeah Pedersen or Petersen is much more common in Norway nowadays
@ I thought so to but looked it up on genology and my wifes late grandfather said that if my ancestry name was En then its swedish but if it was On its norwegian. He came from the old country and is the only person I knew and could trust besides what my mother had done digging through my family tree. My mother side was from Norway as well. There is a picture my mom still has of my grandmother on the bridge of a ship with her dad who was named Thomas Lunder. That traces back my middle name to him past down from my uncle Thomas Mann. Incidentally my wife’s side of her family traces back to Lundi. We have strong norwegian roots in both sides of our family tree and then come to find out my mom told me we have an ancestor who was German who fought with America during the Revolutionary War
@@JamiePeterson-sh5bn Son in Swedish means son, sen is old norwegian for son. Today it would be sønn. So it son of peder. Hope that makes sence
This floors me, it's exactly opposite of everything I thought I knew about Norway. Given how Norway divided up national holdings in oil & timber.
Watching this while I prepare mentally to go grocery shoping here in Oslo. The prices are absurd.
Is that the same Norway ALL the women took the day off from and the country ran better?
Yeah....sounds about right.
😂
Nah that was Iceland.
It was Iceland, but its still hilarious lmao
Well since i'm anonymous here i can tell the truth i guess, Norway has too many woke weak women in power.
I don't have to elaborate i guess, Norways current state speaks for itself.
Men built the country and should be running it!
Such a shame to see happen. California has been trying the same for many years, sending tax bills to folks long after moved out of state, such as my brother in law. Thank you for sharing, Andre. It is always nice to know what is happening elsewhere in the world and from a reputable source of many years now.
Yeah
Usually, Norway or Sweden pulls a California before California.
The socialist elitist ecco chamber is the same in all 3 places.
As a former Californian currently visiting the state for holidays: It’s terminal. The State is going to eat itself.
🇨🇭 l am Suisse, l feel for Norway🇳🇴
but things are not better over here, for normal people. We heading straight into recession and big unemployment.. Switzerland 2025 is game over..Stay strong Norway🇳🇴
100% Switzerland 🇨🇭 going down the toilet also . Sad to watch
No taxpayer should ever be forced to fund any kind of game development at all.
In fact, there are a few things that are legitimate for being funded in that way by the state. If you can't convince people to voluntarily fund your project, then it does not deserve to be funded.
When you've paid your taxes, it's not your money any longer - just as your salery no longer belongs the company you work at. Taxes will always be used to pay for things you're personally against, don't need, or don't use. Still, concidering all the things in Norway that are cheap or free because it's tax-funded, I think we get a lot back... it's not like most is used on a bloated military or lower taxes for the 1% riches like in some countries!
Art - paintings, statues, theater, movies... and now video-games - have always been to some degree substituted by the government... even when perhaps the lower classes couldn't appriciate it. It's weird, all the talk on the right about "Norwegian/Europeab culture" and how migrants "destroys" it... yet very little interest in funding art and culture! Most art and culture won't be profitable, but that is not it's purpose.
@@baardkopperud
"When you've paid your taxes, it's not your money any longer - just as your salery no longer belongs the company you work at."
Wrong.
We are only delegating limited powers to the state. It does not ever actually own that money. It is only working as a proxy for us.
It's as if you said that when we invest money through a mutual fund, we no longer own it.
"Taxes will always be used to pay for things you're personally against, don't need, or don't use"
That is part of why state taxes and spending should be limited to only the things most urgently needed AND that could not be provided privately.
"Still, concidering all the things in Norway that are cheap or free because it's tax-funded, I think we get a lot back"
Oh, I see, yes, I'm sure that's what they teach the peasants there.
But, of course, you pay far more than the fake-free stuff you "Get back".
"Art - paintings, statues, theater, movies... and now video-games - have always been to some degree substituted by the government... even when perhaps the lower classes couldn't appriciate it."
No, the reason the rest of the world barely knows anything about Norwegian "culture" is that it's watered down by state intervention, and any arts you produce is ignored by everyone but yourselves.
The US arts reached a greater pinnacle when the state was not interfering. Not that it does, that influence is waning.
Sure glad my grandfather and grandmother came to British Columbia in 1929 from Trondheim,
Let's say you want to retire with income of $80k. Rule of thumb is that you can withdraw 4% of your savings, meaning you need to save $2M to get that retirement.
But with a fortune tax of just 1%, that's $20k/yr being taken from your nest egg. You don't have enough to retire anymore. Instead, you have to save $2.67M or a third MORE than what you would have had to save before. *But it's WORSE than it sounds.*
The tax is a hole draining your retirement bucket as you try to fill it. If you start saving $5k/yr, increase it by 3% each year (assuming raises), and earn 8%/yr, you will have $2M after 40 yr. But if your savings get taxed at 1% of their value each year--and being generous let's consider ONLY the amount over $170k--you only have $1.7M after 40 yr. It takes another 2.5 yr to get to $2M. But you need to get to $2.67M, so you actually have to work & save for 46 yr instead of 40 yr. It's like raising your retirement age from 65 to 71.
(These calcs ignore income tax. So it's actually much worse.)
Wow!
dont forget, suddenly they raise the fortune tax to 5%
It is not possible to save. The inflation rate is radically understated, and despite the nominal value in the saving account increases, the purchasing power is declining.
And they just raised the retirement age from 67, to 69 and 71 years, depending your birthdate. All young people must work till 71 now! The craziest is; government want people to work only 30 hrs a week, and some people now working 4 days / week. -But you have to go on til you're 71!!!
The commentaries from Andre and Midnight's Edge Team are always on point.
Veldig bra video. Jeg har ikke fulgt så nøye med på dette selv, men du la det frem på en lettfattelig måte.
That was really interesting. Thank you. I enjoyed learning more about the globe we live on.
Time to make Norway great again
that'll be MaNGA lol
Good luck, with the wealth fund operating as it is that would require the USD to burn first.
We would need an economic disaster so brutal that shit becomes worthless.
And sadly, it is written in USD, so the worse our economy the more valuable it gets.
"Time to make Norway great again".
Norway is already great.
Sincerely yours, "The southern neighbor".
We all need a Donald Trump in power throughout Europe sounds like or we r finished,unfortunately common sense is not very common, u have my sympathy Norway, been there a good few years ago, sounds as if it's definitely gone down hill since then, take ur country back Norwegians
@@ArchieHutton-yn7zxwe dont need idiots in power. We dont have idiots voters here.
Yes, Andre, these videos are awesome!!
Need to lower the background music a little for headphone users. Good video
I love them, the vidoes. As a fellow Norwegian.
It is illegal to criticize Norway. It is also compulsory to chastise the USA on a regular basis.
@@Spl1tYaWiG so true.
Yes, more of these videos. In America, we call this "Inside Baseball" for an experience that we do not have but wish to know about from an insiders perpective. Great video!
Socialism is the great blight of humanity
I am Norwegian and I want to hear more about Norwegian politics online instead of from official news sources that I don't trust.
Which also just so happens to be owned/promoted by the government.
"I am Norwegian and I want to hear more about Norwegian politics online instead of from official news sources that I don't trust.".
What are "official news sources" and why don't you trust them?
Just because someone is good at selling cars to you (Musk), doesn't mean that he knows how to run your country.
Apart from my own country (just south of yours...), I like Norway the most. Appreciate what you got, because in comparison with the rest of the globe, it is pretty darn good.
@@shyviking By official news he probably means NRK or something like Aftenposten or VG. NRK is the "official" news you get in Norway. All of which are politically left-wing which is not good.
Same here.
Online political content is very lacking in Norway.
Most people get their news from MSM, which is part of the explanation of why things are getting shittier by the day.
@@shyviking Are you from Oslo by chance?
I love the communities that live simply off the land with no automation and no chemicals...only a clean and pure relationship with the earth. This is a good reality.
Even crazier considering Norway has access to about $50 Billion USD worth of dividend payment from the sovereign wealth fund each year. Super greedy government...
This gives them Emirati problems, which pretty much guarantees eventual endemic dysfunction. Not a place to raise future generations of capable people.
I lived in Norway, Stavanger to be precise, for 6 months back in 2007. I absolutely loved the country, even though I could only travel during the winter, when Norwegians were even more shut-in and not particularly friendly. Back then, I could definitely back the idea of 40%+ taxes (how naïve, I know), because I could see the money wherever you went. Taxes were used to improve the life of the folk. It saddens me deeply to see that this is no longer the case.
I am astounded. I though the German tax system was bad, but it seems to be a free market utopia compared with the Norwegian tax system.
No difference. We have the exact same system as described in the video. Exit taxes, more then half taken away when taking out money off a business, taxes on stock profits, tax on buying real estate but no deduction on selling etc.
There is a reason why I feel alienated in my own country. I am grateful for the help I've got but it's still near impossible to have any opportunity to build anything of your own without being taxed into oblivion. It does not help the fact that the birthrate is taking a nose dive alongside the immigration policies they are enforcing. Not to mention the superficial social situations and lack of any true connection. This is a zombie society, we are already dead. There is no denying it.
What rich countries have such great birthrates then?
Most so called first world countries have low birth rates that they find worrying.
@@steinarvilnes3954 decline in birth rates is due to feminism, birth control culminating in giving women's rights inflating their egos and sense of values. Which means its global.
@@steinarvilnes3954 Gaza? All Muslim countries. No need to be rich just need to come see you and get busy birthing. A take down with no shots fired. The ultimate trojan horse because diversity is your best friend. LOL Better get that prayer rug ready, you'll need it.
why is the birthrate diving?
I am from Norway. we have lived in exile for 9 years, after falsely being accused of being "seriously mentally ill, dangerous, and unable to take care of myself or children" by a police officer that we have never met. 9 years in limbo, poverty and desperation with 3 children. Nobody does anything to help us get back home, only gaslighting if anything, but they are very good at making up silly pretext.
Thank you for this. As a doctor, my dream was to go and work there, but I like living as a free citizen and not a slave of the state
Norway also financed a 'study' to find out if white paint is racist. 😒
Please tell me you're kidding although that's just me wishing they weren't that nuts.
@@DarlinAkaDarleneliving in Norway. I believe him. They are just that incompetent. They will pay companies taxpayer money so they use green energy and offset the loss.
That just sums it up, crazy place
@ArchieHutton-yn7zx i went to like a convention for class. And the people giving presentation were talking about how it was a good thing to use tax payer money to insentivice clean energy to companies. Under normal circumstances it would run the company completely under the ground, but the government gives them money. This is apparently A GOOD THING!
This is wrong, it was a study about the historie of titanwhite , a chemical pigment made in Norway and they looked on the impact of it in the world. A small part in the study they looked on how they in 1920s market it in a rasist way. The study was not to find out if white was rasist but to look into how this norwegian invention affected the world. Stay informed Guys!
Oh, how closely related evil and stupidity are is more than I ever could've dreamed.
People have become so lazy they believe stupid things so they can feel virtuous and pat themselves on the back even though they’ve accomplished nothing. This begets their pride. Then they feel they can do no wrong. And then they pave the road to hell with their stupid intentions.
@@trevorrogers95 oh, there is plenty of evil behind it. Project fear psyops, bribery and blackmail
@Midnight's Edge I would be interested in a video comparing Norway to Sweden's economic/financial policies.
First off all:
- Norwegian politics theese days have zero cases or sections their hearth burn heavy for. They just want to be a politician, live on older extreamly good political decitions and tear some of them down due to their own incompetanse.
- Second: they want euro, the people dont want euro. They also want to be in EU, but the people have voted no twice. So they are trying to burn down our valuta, and burn down our way of function so we are forced into eu and euro valuta.
Meanwhile they themselves exploit system directly against the law, and all we Get are: «im sorry», if normal people do the same its jailtime.
Its so bad now its barely describable.
The Norwegian Gorvernment is like the the story about a frog and the scorpion crossing the river.
I'm from Norway too. And our country is f'ed.. And it's the people who enter politics and media that cause the issues, most people I meet in Norway are normal, but the politicians and the media are just deranged..
Guess where the chosen tribe focuses their efforts? Media and politics. Whodathunk.
But which countries are that much better then? For other people than business owners I mean.
@@steinarvilnes3954 I for one would like us to adopt israels border and immigration policy.
@@fenrifegads5571 But Isreal is located in an area it does not belong.
@@steinarvilnes3954 It belongs in the dustbin of history.
But my point still stands.
Yes i love videos like this. I studied in Edinburgh and lots of my friends were from Norway. Long time now and sad to say long time no contact with most.
I was one Brit who saw Nordic countries as idylic, then i started to see the complexity of it all. Love learning about whats actually going on in countries.
But this mania of mass migration of people to our countries in such short time. People who dont like, respect the country they enter or wish to assimilate/integrate into their communities. Sheer lunacy! Keep going André.
So why can't people just leave the country and not pay the exit tax. Once they're gone, They're gone right? I mean no country's going to extradite them over this. What power do they have to enforce that you keep paying this tax once you're completely out of the country?
Tax treates with other countries.
Its so bad. The fact that our taxes doesn't go to stuff that actually improve our lives, but to stuff that improve how much the politicians get paid is insane.
The big problem is that those rich people that are fleeing could help new young political parties destroy these old political parties but they would rather flee then help the common man to make their life better.