@@nahal999 how much did you know about Justin? Do you know that he’s a narcissist? Do you care about that or do you just hate Blake? Cause I don’t like Blake or Ryan Reynolds, but that doesn’t block me from seeing Justin’s a piece of shit too.
@@bethohlheiser4793 I’m giving Brandon a tiny bit of grace if he ever finds the backbone to speak the truth about what happened on set. Still weighing how much grace… but for Hoover and trainer there’s none. Two-faced, greedy and only self-serving individuals!
Brandon doesn't look good in all of this but I suspect how own livelihood is on the line due to his affiliation with Blake and Ryan and the studio connects/his future projects. It's all tied in and he probably feels like he has to side with her to keep his future job. But it is a messed up part of Hollywood and one reason why I could never be part of it.
Unfortunately the historical video clips of blake being a little mean are very real. And her allegations that Baldoni was behind a smear against her are not supported by the evidence. So far all she has is her word, whilst he has audio recordings, eye witnesses, video footage, text messages and emails.
lol, HIS side has literally proven that he shopped the flaa interview to media while also claiming it was completely organic. 'not supported by evidence" only if you are lying or willfully ignorant of the evidence. meanwhile, to believe him, you have to ignore everything known about forensic extraction and think that Steph jones committed 50 felonies to remove an emoji, which is a lot of work to do to remove a thing that forensic software doesn't put into extraction transcripts anyway. but OK, explain a theory as to why.how jones committed all those felonies making more sense than "he's just lying"
😂 what do you mean why is taylor perplexed, I would say her friend presented a narrative to her that’s turning out not to be accurate, and she is unsure about the whole thing.
Taylor hasn’t even acknowledged this publicly. Taylor was very publicly treated the way. Blake is treating Justin by Kim kardashian and Kanye west so I really don’t think she knew the extent of what was happening. She has a tight pr team who I think would have given her pause of they thought she was helping to destroy someone’s career by someone who was editing text messages.
It enrages me as a woman who was S/A, to have any woman lie especially when she is a spoiled narcissistic NEPO BABY! It makes my blood boil! 😢 Don't me too, unless it's true, she's got zero receipts& he does
I find it a bit weird that Ryan would berate Justin for allegedly fat shaming his wife but not for the alleged Sexual Harassment? This makes no sense to me. I honestly think that Blake caught feelings for Justin and Ryan got a whiff of it and decided to take Baldoni down not expecting him to fight back or that he kept all the receipts…. Ryan probably also never realized how horrible Blake is with marketing or in interviews 😂…. We forget that Justin has a family to feed and protect so if all these accusations turn out to be false that is some evil 💩
@ huh? So you’re saying fat shaming is worse than sexual harassment? 😂 if my partner was being sexually harassed you better damn well know I’m going to get that taken care of. SH compared to Fat shaming is so much worse in my book.
EXACTLY!!! I've been saying the same thing. If RR got in Baldoni's face because of supposed "fat shaming," then why didn't he do it when LIEvly said she was being SH? And her claims of them "barging in," why didn't she lock her door so that whoever was going in would need to knock? Or are they that stupid to not think of it? If so, then LIEvly needs to get a new assistant.
Blake is a mediocre actress at best, she has coasted by using her husbands fame and reputation, but whenever she does something herself, she shows her true colours. She was mean to Krisjia the interviewer years ago, she was posted "where's Kate?" When Princess Catherine was facing chemotherapy and lots of other things. She is a mean girl and always has been. Entitled as her dad was an actor, she's a nepo baby and always used to getting her own way, even if she's wrong. She gives doubt to real victims with her dubious narcissistic actions.
I’m in the industry people have no remote idea what a scourge the majority of nepos are on the industry. People have no idea how many actors at the top have nepotism. More of them do than more them do not. It’s a form of classism which they’re using to interlock the industry so “regular” people have a harder time getting in which is why I don’t support it. And I have dated plenty of nepos as well to live to tell the tale. The ones who are down to earth and paved their own way without using mommy or daddy’s name are hard working, respectful and amazing at their craft. I.e Joe Hill, Nicolas Cage, to name a few are great and should be there. Ofc you’ll get outliers but the ones who have hardcore banked on their parents name are more often than not entitled talentless spoiled elitist brats. One of my abusive narcissistic ex’s who said he only acts because “he likes nice things” is pushing 30 still playing his father’s son on a tv show lol.
What really bothers me is people keep saying I don’t know who he is or they’re both awful. This man has a long-standing career of meaningful writings, podcast and things he’s directed I also loathe women who say any man who calls himself a feminist is a red flag. Men can’t win. This is also how we corner men to become more conservative.
Thank you. Completely agree. Two people are not always wrong. Some people are honest when they say they believe in something. Sadly we live in a world where it is so rare to be good and honest that everyone gets doubted.
💯 ppl cant fathom what a healthy emotionally intelligent man looks like so its easier to write it off as something else. Its shameful. Justin deserves justice
In a battle that mirrors the timeless story of David versus Goliath, Justin finds himself up against RR and BL, a powerful and ruthless couple driven by greed and manipulation. While RR and BL seem to use their influence to push others down and maintain control, Justin stands firm, armed with nothing but truth and evidence to back his claims. Team Justin!!!!
So she was SH during filming, yet she waited until after the movie was released, joked about DV in interviews, told everyone to grab their friends and florals like it was a romcom, disrespected interviewers, pushed her haircare line and alcohol brand and her husband’s movie in each and every chance she got, and only when people started criticizing her behavior and her businesses flopped did she suddenly remembered that she was SH during the shoot. what kind of bullshit is that ….🤣🤣🤣 , I’m actually surprised if there are people who falls for her downright lies just because she’s more powerful. 🤦🏻♀🤦🏻♀🤦🏻♀
She also had the power to rewrite the script, take over wardrobe, bring in her bestie, Taylor, involve her husband with production during the writer's strike, not only keep him away from the premier but have him & his family sentence to the basement but was powerless on set.... There is NO fucking way she went along with anything she didn't feel comfortable... she iwas all about power, control, grabbing and bullying the director...
I fail to understand why she would not sue him over the SH allegations, but she would file a complaint for an alleged smear campaign. The SH accusations came only after he got his lawyer.
#TeamJustinBaldoni from the very beginning and never even doubted he was innocent. His only mistake was picking a Colleen Hoover book as a source material for his big project. That woman has been trying to make her Hollywood break for years now. Her horrid book “Ugly Love”, that traumatized me as a woman, almost got a screen adaptation. The actor for main male character was picked the trailer was already coursing through the internet but the movie thankfully never happened. No wonder she is holding onto Blake with her own version of a Markle claw. She’s desperate for E. L. James level of stardom. If not for shallow tiktok creators, Colleen Hoover would have stayed in the dark corner of disliked authors with absolutely zero talent of character creation. She hates men so much that she absolutely destroys women in her book to present her “flawed” male leads 🤦🏼♀️
@@gayavardan I’m not impressed with Hoover over the fact that one minute she was arm in arm with Justin and the next she’s unfollowing him and telling everyone how honest Blake has been. She knew that Blake was trying to take the film from Justin and I believe Hoover helped in some way. All for money. No integrity.
Ever heard of method acting? That's not what he meant. He was in character and the airhead couldn't stay in character long enough to save her own life. @@HelenKistler
The Nice Pool character based on Justin was shot down by Lady Pool played by Blake in front of a flower shop like her character in It Ends With Us👀 Her Laissez-faire attitude about SA and blatant mockery of Justin with her husband publicly do not reflect trauma… and that is the tip of the iceberg. Looks to me that the only people obviously traumatized by the movie were the crew & costars caught in the middle of this pr war!
I think I’m quite aware of my own biases and am not afraid to challenge them. What I think has happened is that social media has made it more difficult for celebrities to control their own narrative. People get instincts about other people. Regardless of what was in the media, I was uncomfortable watching Blake Lively promote the film and had noticed things about her behaviour (I.e., bullying the Princess of Wales when she had cancer, other mean spirited behaviour she has exhibited etc) that made me feel like she is not someone I would trust, idolise or want to be around. When the film came out, the way she excluded Baldoni felt off and the way she promoted the film was insulting to DV survivors. It simply confirmed by belief about her. However, even though complaint felt more strategic than sincere, I doubted my instincts and based on the evidence, decided I had made incorrect assumptions. What has made me so enraged is after reading Baldoni’s 179 page document, I firmly believe he is telling the truth and that Blake not only insulted DV victims, she has also exploited systems meant to protect them. The public have seen through her.. fool me once - shame on you, fool me twice - shame on me.
@bee_wildered and then doubled down siting DARVO as Justin's tactic. Now she wants to identify with people who have suffered abuse? Yet she did not when promoting the movie! So insulting.
I appreciate your thoughtful commentary and I agree with you 100%. My BS radar is blaring with Lively. Mega ego and low empathy is a very dangerous combination and those that are lower in the food chain are in danger of being taken down. I’m proud of JB because you can feel his authenticity. We shouldn’t believe a woman, just because she’s a woman. Predators come in both sexes. I do feel some compassion for Blake Lively because she obviously has a serious personality disorder. As a survivor of narc abuse for half of my life, I feel for those who are so empty and disconnected from their humanity. God help her babies.
Ryan parodying Justin secretly in his movie is legally very problematic for Blake’s case. … the Ryan and Blake team are in trouble in the litigation. Pass the popcorn.
That location share answer was so dumb. Im sorry. Blake is 37 yrs old. I'd understand the silliness of the reply if she's 12 yrs old. I dont know what's she's trying to prove there.
Honestly the question was dumb. She's not a therapist but the way she answered was like how dare u ask me to actually talk to the poors that saw and connected to my movie. Like it's laughable any peasant would have the nerve to tell her your movie meant a lot to me. Bc she doesn't gaf. I think Justin actually does care that his movie was important to survivors of abuse. Actions speak louder than words.
@@owenlyons76 dumb question or not. She is highly tone deaf. Being a celebrity has its perks (money/status) but it also comes with its responsibilities when having a huge public platform. She is the epitome of the word entitled. I think she truly believed she was untouchable and exempt from cancel culture.
Definitely good points and a very interesting dive into herd mentality, but I have to reiterate that many people speaking on the Lively/Baldoni case do not fall into that camp at all. A huge number of people were on Lively’s side when her first complaint came out in December, and after seeing Baldoni’s evidence first hand they switched “sides” and openly admitted they were wrong to judge Baldoni so quickly. At this point it wasn’t a case of “which side are you on”, because no one really knew of Baldoni before all this. What we were now seeing was a relatively unknown artist being deliberately targetted and scape-goated in an elaborate hostile takeover to steal his life’s work, and all this being achieved through bare faced lies to manipulate us, the public, and take advantage of our support and good will. Most people who appear to be supporting Baldoni are not actually invested in his side at all. They are mad at Lively, Reynolds, and all these big corrupt heavy hitters in Hollywood whom we are now seeing have done nothing but lie and manipulate us for years, and thrown our patronage in our faces. This has become personal.
Thank you!!! This is exactly how it happened for me too. Although, I was suspicious at first cuz I found her initial complaint really cheesy (“No More…”) Plus that NYT article was obviously a hit piece. I just need to add how incredibly disappointed I am with Megan Twohey. Now I get what kind of journalist she really is.
@@ChakahMeat I literally got caught by all of this because after that article came out, he sued NYT. Confirmed journalism is dead! Otherwise, I was just going to ignore this whole thing.
A pretty intern on set years ago was scolded for trying to talk to blake lively,and girl said she didnt..lively said she talked to me like a fan😮 young lady was threatened of losing her job😮 crazy blake
How sad would it be if ‘We should believe women’ is being used as a weapon by a woman! And there is video footage showing Blake being a bully….proof of character…therefore there is justification to question her allegations.
Yes, it's only the narcissistic, mean-girl bully type (or the coward suck-up enabler types) who are siding with her. During the Amber Heard thing I noticed it was only the nasty-spirited people who were siding with her. Noone else.
Oh clearly, you didn’t see his old content. Like his proposal video or his wedding video where it was all about him and he said nothing about his wife to be. The man is a narcissist. Don’t get me wrong. Blake is a horrible person too, but we do not need to protect Justin Baldoni.
I disagree with the statement that women should just be believed when they call out sexual harassment. Women should be taken seriously, and a fair investigation done, but no one should just be believed on their word alone. I am a woman, and I experienced harassment in the workplace before it was considered a problem, but I have also seen so many women make false accusations out of jealousy, revenge, anger, spite, whatever just because they can. Maybe it gives them a sense of power and control they don’t otherwise feel. Or it’s an “easy” way to mess with someone and don’t consider, or care about, the ramifications on the other person. So this is a tough situation. What will I know of JB is very positive, while BL has been shady. I welcome any thoughts?
I'm older and can still remember when it was "ok" to slap a female co-worker on the rump and tell women to smile more. Also have seen several women lie about harassment just to be petty. I wanted to believe her but facts are facts. Unless evidence comes out that's above reproach and doctoring, she lost my support. Just another woman to weaponise false accusations and the movement to save her public image. Her and her husband deserve each other.
I was never on either side at first because I have always believed in hearing and seeing both sides of the story before having an opinion. I don't just believe all women without question. I, instead follow the evidence and thus far there is evidence that supports Justin's side of the story here. I am curious though. Why were people so quick to believe Blake right out the gate once she made these allegations? Because she's a woman?? Because women don't lie about SH? I ask because I am curious.
I remember the case of a male nurse who was accused of something by a female patient, he could prove it didn't happen but said it really scared him because all she had to say was "he touched me too long / inappropriately during a glute injection" and he would not have been able to prove anything.
My brother was accused of rape when he was 18 years old it turned out. The girl had been raped by someone else, but it was easier to accuse my brother than to accuse the real rapist. She nearly destroyed my brother’s life because she lied. Yes, she was raped, but she had no right to blame my brother.
Team Justin..good man with compassion,and helping for years peoples families while loved ones dying!! Even bought fan to premeir cause her dying wish to meet him!! They wer sent to basement and lady passed 3 months later😢❤
Yes. He absolutely did. His claims can be out well be proved I think. He was dropped by his agency, lost deals, and definitely lost wages, not being able to continue with part 2 of the movie, if he even gets to keep the rights to it.
Some things that I think you missed. Lively accused him of coming into her trailer uninvited while she was breast feeding. Justin produced texts that prove she invited him in. Also, lively accused him of whispering inappropriate things while filming the dance scene. She didn’t realize he had a mic on and everything was recorded proving he did no such thing. She accused him of offending he by talking about her clothes as “sexy”. He had footage of her talking with the crew about her sexy shoes and other things. She accused him of lingering over kisses, he has footage of her spontaneously kissing him when it wasn’t scripted. She said they didn’t have an intimacy coordinator, there was one but she refused to meet with them. She wanted to write the script but refused to actually read the book it’s based upon. Everything she accused him of, he has footage, texts, and emails to disprove and has stated he will put it all up online for everyone to see… then there’s the fact that she made fun of princess Catherine when she was first diagnosed with cancer. She’s just not a good person
She's not a good person is a very mild way of saying what she does. Trolling The Princess of Wales about having cancer!! Who does Blake Lively think she is?? This women has a problem, she behaves like a narcissist. Seems she has been treating people like rubbish for a long time.
Someone with nothing to hide is a dangerous person. Baldoni is coming out with all the receipts, and countering all of Blake’s claims. His lawyer said they were going to sue into oblivion, and they are. Blake and Ryan need knocked down a peg or two, anyway. And shame on Colleen Hoover for ruining a 5 year friendship with Justin to side with Blake due to her level of fame.
I think 1 Huge indicator of Blake being a bad person that jokes in a mean passive aggressive way was her saying some of us were born in cages in an interview and pointed to Leighton Meester then laughed and said oh it was just a joke. But Leighton was born in prison bc her mom was a convict. She's not funny. She's cruel and tries to pretend it's just a joke. Which is very typical of a narc abuser. They humiliate people with a big smile on their face.
I think BL is a monster. Granted we’ll never know exactly what happened but the fact that BL has tons of interviews acting like a terrible person makes it pretty easy.
I saw an article where text messages were read, and Blake told him to come to her trailer to read lines, even told him she was breast feeding, but to come anyway.
False. Firstly she was pumping not breastfeeding and secondly nowhere did she invite him in her personal trailer. I invite you to read the text more carefully. She merely told him what she was doing and where and proposed to work, just like you could tell somebody that you are at home taking a shower and then propose to meet. Would It mean that you want this person to come at your house while you are under the shower? Surely not and the same was for Lively. As a fact in his reply he said that he would meet her at h-mu, the hair and make up trailer. Why would he go in another place if she had invited him in her personal trailer? The only reason Is that he knew that she wasn't inviting him in her personal trailer which means that in his lawsuit he lies consciously just like he does with many other things. He is a liar and a sexual harasser. Please, don't side with a sexual harasser, what has happened to Lively could happen to you too or to someone you care about.
@@stefania8715 bt why was she promoting her hair care and betty buzz and Deadpool and aviation gin throughout the promotion while everyone knows dv is a sensitive topic and it would have been great if that was d main focus I was a Blake fan But now I realized they r just power hungry and take advantage of people Mocking nice pool and killing him n making fun of him I doubt I will do dt if I was sh Weird duo
@@stefania8715and Blake has a history of bullying people n making fun of them and when people react she would say I was joking it's a joke I had a narcissistic frnd just like her that I got sick at one point just like baldoni. N they were so charismatic and got everything that they wanted but years of acquaintance with her I had enough n left now m so much at peace I wonder whose innocent soul she is dragging now just like Blake if things don't pan out d way dy want Seriously over charismatic , at d beginning they would praise n love bomb but those insults would come randomly So please be beware of too good to be true kinda people. It's always a scam
@@jjopi5656 Blah Blah blah. You paid trolls just go on and on with the same old dumb arguments 🥴 bully, narcisist, mean girl, whatever... nothing changes the fact that Baldoni is a sexual harasser and a liar. Period 👋
Always appreciate your take on things. Many of us are basing early opinion about which person may be more innocent based on actual evidence of the character of the people involved. My opinion isn’t based on social identity and wanting to be a part of a ‘group’ or needing to make a decision now. It’s based on already seeing the evidence that is out there. There are actual text messages and emails in the recent ‘long’ court documents that show clearly how manipulative Blake was to take over the film and bully her way in…throwing around her husband’s and Taylor Swift’s celebrity heavyweight to get her way so she could look good and take over Justin’s movie. There is evidence of Blake’s bully and entitled persona over the years. Which matchs her actions and the evidence so far in this case. So my tendency to lean in Justin’s direction has nothing to do with your two reasons….but more to do with feeling the need to side with the underdog. The one who is being taken advantage of. The one who is being stomped on by a selfish diva who just wants to look good in the silly celebrity world. Once you see all the ‘tea’ out there, and what comes out in court, I’ll be curious if you agree that a third category is a ‘righteous anger’ that we humans experience when we see someone getting the short end of the stick and we can see that something is unfair and want to speak out against that injustice. A couple months ago, I didn’t know negative things about Blake and Ryan. And had no idea who Justin was. But after measuring evidence of what is out there so far, it’s easy to see a developing pattern that there is a much higher chance that she is exactly who she is showing herself to be. And I think a lot of us are looking forward to this crazy, unhealthy side of toxic Hollywood to finally be exposed. I think people are tired of celebrities who think they are ‘all that’ and better than the rest of us. I think that plays an important role in all this.
But what gives you the right to judge her ? Nothing does. What she has or has not done does not impact your life in anyway. You do not know her personally. You werent involved in the making of the film. You are a bystander to something that has nothing to do with you or me. That is why I am not judging her.
@@heavenlyvilla8681 None of what they posted was judgement. Deducing that Blake Lively is manipulative is a 100% reasonable analysis based on all the visual and verbal evidence. Judging would be taking one look at someone or one thing they did once and labelling them from then on. This is not what has happened here. Also there is a huge difference between judging and actually seeing the truth of a matter. We are finally seeing and speaking out against the corrupt power imbalances inherent in our social and working lives, as evidenced by what has been going on in Hollywood
@@heavenlyvilla8681same question to you what gives her the right to mock a person and bully. Have u noticed nice pool?? Did u even see what she was promoting? Aviation gin, betty buzz, haircare line, Deadpool except talk about dv Which sums up who she really is I was a Blake fan too but just becos she screams sh doesn't mean we have to trust her evry word everything needs evidence not just words. Till now m yet to see concrete hard proof against him
“Awful” is a big understatement. Anyone who would willingly falsely accuse another of sexual harassment is pure ev!l. Someone like that is quite scary and capable of anything in my opinion.
@@susanb.1772 doesnt mean everything she says is wrong. Doesnt make everything he says right. We do t have all the facts so why pick a side on a gut feeling?
People siding with Fake Lively are either told they'd get something out of it or downright dumb af. And with her dragons namely Ryan and Taylor keeping quiet about the meeting at their house tell us that they are in really deep trouble. Team Justin all the way! Justice for Justin.
@@XtianJade Taylor should make a statement letting people know that she just thought that she was helping a friend and didn’t know the details of it if that’s what really happened.
Very insightful explanation on how we choose sides. I immediately thought Blake was treated poorly but now realize that was how I had aligned myself. This is a lesson on how I should be a critical thinker and not jump to a conclusion
You are right that none of us have inside information, however, the two legal cases are there for everyone to read and just judging by the receipts that the Baldoni team have, its not looking good for Lively & Reynolds. It looks very much like more of power struggle than SH.
You should analyse why RR did mock Baldoni on Deadpool? Playing Nicepool they are videos online you can find them easily. Why did he think it was a good idea to do that if his wife was SH? Why a husband would do that ?
I think you are wrong on this one. While I do agree that we all have our biases that we tend to lean towards a lot of people were believing Blake Lively until baldoni released all of his evidence and so far it looks like she has completely lied. It's just too much evidence to ignore so even those on Blake Lively side have switched over.
@@lorimargaret7129yeah. Unfortunately for Blake side, he showed that most if not all of her text messages were altered to be seen in a certain light whereas if you were to in some cases, just look at the very next line you’ll see the text exchange is completely opposite what Blake side said. Like that text about the PR team saying how lucky Baldoni is and that they can “bury her” only to have if you continue on in the text chain saying that Baldoni and his side do not understand that the truth will not win out with an accusation like this and then they called Blake a lying psychopath and that they should just be grateful that all that came out at the time was that he was “difficult“ and that’s why the cast didn’t like him. If Blake lively wants to prove her accusation she’s gonna have to explain why anybody should believe her when she’s gotten caught so many times manipulating the text messages so much so that they say the complete opposite of what she originally said and if it happened once well, maybe it could’ve just been an accident but his lawsuit pretty much disproved every single one and then added things like the fact that she made fun of Baldoni‘s nose, and that was caught on camera with audio the many times she claimed that she was harassed.
How could a personal trainer share a private conversation with Blake Lively? What was his intention when he told BL, a woman apparently uncomfortable in her own body? Wasn't there a breach of trust? I think JB was smart enough not to ask BL directly about her weight. This pettiness about fat shaming was born of the trainer's mistake, and probably to this day, he hasn't apologized. Two types of questions: "To prepare for portage, I need to know how much you and JB weigh" versus "Did you know that JB asked me how much you weighed? " The first is professional, the second is chatty.
I saw or read somewhere that the trainer was working with both of them during filming. If BL really was trying to sabotage JB to get control of the film/sequel she may have grilled the trainer looking for something she could use against him? 🤷
He's a personal trainer to BL n RR and uses that connection to get more clients. BL is the one who recommended this trainer to JB who turned out to be another unprofessional snitch. th-cam.com/video/GURSs5pK-ok/w-d-xo.html
The wild thing about this is how heated people get about their opinion on people they don’t even know! Like Megyn Kelly trash talking Blake Lively on TV is insane. I’m team “wait for it to go to court and maybe I’ll form an opinion when we have more information”
Many were ready to believe Blake Lively until they found out how the text messages had been manipulated. So there's a reason why the woman isn't believed in this case. It's not because of her gender, but because this woman in question distorted the truth. In addition, it has been revealed how she actually dominated and caused difficulties during filming and in the marketing of the film. Her own behavior does not give signs that she was a victim in the situation. Her behavior and messages show that she had the power and Baldoni was the one who had to give in and be on his toes around her the whole time. People are not stupid. Just because people don't believe HER for very good reasons, does not mean that people hate women and disbelieve them in general.
If you are not sure what side you are on then I don't think you read each sides legal documents. If you only listen to other creators then yes confusing but please please if you are going to talk about it you need to read the documents. It provides a breakdown of everything that happened with the proof of such events included with.
Very interesting take. In my case, I learned about the case from lawtubers where they read the New York article and then a big part of the court filings. And they tend to be pretty neutral. The last court filing from Baldoni makes me lean for him because of the receipts but really, I am just waiting for the trial.
I’m making my assessment on all the receipts. All the videos showing her being a narcissistic bully and he was always a nice guy in all his interviews. Also I’m looking at all his receipts that show her to be a liar.
Thank you for talking about this and trying to explain why we are feeling the need to align with a side. This ‘fight’ of theirs has left me unsettled and I didn’t understand why.
I agree. For me the unsettled part is all the judgment and hate I have seen online, mostly directed towards Blake. I would like to think that we are not so quick to judge or to hate people we know in real life, so do people do it online.
I just see Justin defending himself and Blake being herself. It’s sad, my daughters are big Blake fans. I tell them it all comes down to how you treat people.
No, very few people think they understand. That AmberHeard v Johnny Depp trial taught everyone to wait until all of the information comes out. But in the meantime, we are enjoying the discussion and the speculation.
@ that’s where we all are, yep! And we know BL doesn’t have to provide more evidence publicly right now, but we really want to know what her proof of SH is
@@sherryg1838 I don’t think she has much proof. If there were real problems to begin with, why did she rearrange texts and lie so much. It’s not a misunderstanding. They are flat out lies. She wanted the public to believe her and yet she kept giving us lies. It’s ridiculous!
The bottom line is she’s a liar. She’s a mean girl and she’s manipulative. There’s nothing else we need to learn or understand about the situation. She thought she could jump on this me too movement and shame him and lie about him to get her way and it’s backfiring on her and now she’s crying about it.
This was a super interesting video! I’d love to hear more about psychology and how social media and news perpetuate confirmation bias. I feel like many people are fearful right now and confirmation bias is stronger than ever.
Hugely grateful for your perspective - even though it may not have been the actual purpose of the video. As a criminal defense paralegal, I find myself getting so infuriated seeing how people see a headline and suddenly start screaming that a person needs to be put to death, hanged, or castrated. I do not understand how people can be so certain in their opinion of someone’s guilt when they only have the tiniest snippet of the story. Fair trials are impossible - everyone has a strong bias in some way.
It's not a tribal matter. It's a legal matter. There are plenty of videos, messages, contracts and supervision all over this industry i.e.: For a "A" lister to sue for harassment when she haven't signed the Intimacy Rider is preposterous, and a sign of bad intimidation-by-litigation. There's evidence that a Director, lead actor and owner of the film rights was bullied and extorted from his work and reputation. US$ 400 + 250 million lawsuits will be decided by facts, not psychology.
There is proof she is lying about the s.h. because he proved he wanted a person there at all time to make sure scenes didn't make anyone uncomfortable and she refused to use the person. She only says S.H. once her true character comes forward. Only after people start to realize that she stole this movie away from this man. There are no old clips or proof from people surfacing that he is the kind of person she is trying to paint him as. There are tons of proof that she is exactly who she has been telling us she is for years. When someone tells you who they are, believe them! She is exactly the kind of bully that will take everything from you, edit text messages, and worst of all scream $exual harrassment in order to save her image!
Team Justin, you can tell how passionate he was to make this film as an artist. Blake was unprofessional in every way possible, she’s a disgusting person
I don't really agree with this wanting to just go along with a community I identify with. I would prefer that women didn't use real issues of SH and such as a weapon. But I don't see BL as telling the truth here. On first reading of her complaint it all sounded terrible, but then i literally thought this might not be true. Since then JB has put his complaint out and that sounds more feasible to me. Especially considering she did actually take control of the film.
That was interesting David. I, like you, haven’t really followed the drama surrounding this. I watched because I watch pretty much every video that you and / or you and Alison do. It has become is a goal of mine over the last few years, to never commit to a rhetoric so strongly that I am , when presented with new information, unable to change my mind. This was encouraging.
If Ryan's wife was really being sexually harassed, why would he not try to get his wife out of this situation and get her to safety? Why would he not confront Justin about the SH instead of the fat shaming?? Instead he writes a scene in his Deadpool movie making fun of a guy who supposedly sexually harassed his wife?? What guy would do that if their wife was really being harmed? None of this makes any sense because it doesn't and Blake is most likely lying. #TeamJustin
I think it’s also a strong sense of intuition and discernment that many of us have. Our subconscious notices her body language, tone, facial expressions etc. And we sense it all. She also has a pattern of being petty, arrogant and unkind, and we simply don’t trust her!
To me, it’s a tragic case of a beautiful young girl that turned into a beautiful woman that never heard the word “no”. Probably from childhood. It’s a temper tantrum out of control and very very sad. Justin has to protect himself, get this wrapped up, and Blake needs to rebuild with quiet introspection. People forgive and forget quickly.
When this first came out I waited for the counter to see the whole picture. After seeing both I can see her perception is altered and messing with someone's reputation and work is not okay.
I think you are very fair and bring up some valid points. Personally, I think Justin wanted to bygones be bygones. Things had all died down but then lively went nuclear on dec 20th. Honestly her complaints have a lot of holes
What I have been able to deduce (although I completely say I could be mistaken) both people seem to be awful. Why do we have to pick a winner when both might not be worth our time?
I’m happy he made aware the fact that she shames that woman journalist for asking about the wardrobe but then BL made the wardrobe #1 priority in It Ends w Us .
Imagine how tense things are at Blake and Ryan's hse right now. Shock that the world has turned on them and we are not just falling at their feet in adoration. Bet Ryan is looking for something snarky to say as deadpool? 😅😂
They are following the Amber Heard strategy which is not advisable. I can’t believe only imagine they have only one move to make ,and that is offering every actor and crew from that film work in the future.
Anyone who's seen the clip from the Gossip Girl cast interview when Blake brings up that Leighton was born IN A CAGE (she was literally born to an incarcerated woman) and LOLs about it knows that Blake is a cruel person with little empathy or consideration for others. Based on that alone, I'm going to choose my confirmation bias for Baldoni. Also, the fact that Blake didn't even READ THE BOOK but thinks she's qualified to edit the film?
I’m glad you covered this from this perspective. It has been so weird to me how people have so strongly taken a side about things that they have no firsthand knowledge about.
If there is one thing I have learned in all my years, it is that every person in a situation will have their own perspective on what occurs, driven by their past experiences, fears, upbringing, beliefs, etc. If you have 3 people being part of something, all 3 will have a different experience (there may be similarities, but stories will still vary). In this case, only two people know the truth, Blake and Justin. Even if there is a trial, the complete truth may not come out as courts frequently suppress or choose evidence that fits a narrative.
There's evidence of exactly what happened in the texts. Blake kept trying to get ahold of jobs that she wasn't hired for and the people working behind the scenes were constantly annoyed at how she was trying to take over. That story was a rumor at first but the texts prove it happened. Women are capable of lying about sexual harassment and that seems to be something our culture needs to come to grips with.
🎯 We don’t know what actually happened and I feel they both look bad though she looks way worse. She also has a pattern of feuding with co stars and being difficult to work with. But he’s showed me enough evidence 1) that backs up his side and 2) shows her clearly lying in her complaint/lawsuit
Team Justin ✊️ There is Zero evidence supporting Any of Blake's claims. In this case, one person is Right and one person is Wrong... stop making it out to be that BOTH sides may have merit.
All you need to know about this case is that forensic software doesn’t render emoji’s in transcripts. That’s just a FACT. So he’s lying. But if he wasn’t, then you have to believe Steph jones and her attorneys committed about 50 felonies to remove an emoji. And that makes more sense to you than, ‘he’s just fuckin lying?’
Justin 100% no doubts no questions
@@nahal999 team Justin
@@nahal999 how much did you know about Justin? Do you know that he’s a narcissist? Do you care about that or do you just hate Blake? Cause I don’t like Blake or Ryan Reynolds, but that doesn’t block me from seeing Justin’s a piece of shit too.
Sick of colleen hoover and brandon slenar and the doofus trainer. No morals or loyalty, no truthfulness!
@@bethohlheiser4793 I’m giving Brandon a tiny bit of grace if he ever finds the backbone to speak the truth about what happened on set. Still weighing how much grace… but for Hoover and trainer there’s none. Two-faced, greedy and only self-serving individuals!
Brandon doesn't look good in all of this but I suspect how own livelihood is on the line due to his affiliation with Blake and Ryan and the studio connects/his future projects. It's all tied in and he probably feels like he has to side with her to keep his future job. But it is a messed up part of Hollywood and one reason why I could never be part of it.
@@MarySummers-l5e yeah the same director for his current movie was the same for Blake's. She promised him more work if he lied.
@@MarySummers-l5e to be fair he hasn’t said anything negative about Baldoni
Hoover has no loyalty, that's for sure!!
Unfortunately the historical video clips of blake being a little mean are very real. And her allegations that Baldoni was behind a smear against her are not supported by the evidence.
So far all she has is her word, whilst he has audio recordings, eye witnesses, video footage, text messages and emails.
He needs to put everyone on the stand to clear his name! He cannot settle!
@@jasongeorge6602 she ruined herself
blake "cage" comment is so unhinged
lol, HIS side has literally proven that he shopped the flaa interview to media while also claiming it was completely organic.
'not supported by evidence" only if you are lying or willfully ignorant of the evidence.
meanwhile, to believe him, you have to ignore everything known about forensic extraction and think that Steph jones committed 50 felonies to remove an emoji, which is a lot of work to do to remove a thing that forensic software doesn't put into extraction transcripts anyway.
but OK, explain a theory as to why.how jones committed all those felonies making more sense than "he's just lying"
@@wilfreddale764cage??
Sick of Lively and her husband! And why Taylor Swift is perplexed? What a bunch of rich powerful bullies!
😂 what do you mean why is taylor perplexed, I would say her friend presented a narrative to her that’s turning out not to be accurate, and she is unsure about the whole thing.
Taylor hasn’t even acknowledged this publicly. Taylor was very publicly treated the way. Blake is treating Justin by Kim kardashian and Kanye west so I really don’t think she knew the extent of what was happening. She has a tight pr team who I think would have given her pause of they thought she was helping to destroy someone’s career by someone who was editing text messages.
@@monimoo88yes her p r team did comment!! Keep up! And if you don’t know, your fave is addicted to drama, you do not know her very well!!!!
@@shelleybigham133 she is probably perplexed
Justin has a right to defend himself. He should sue NYT for
" fake news"
Women have a right to stand up for themselves as well
It enrages me as a woman who was S/A, to have any woman lie especially when she is a spoiled narcissistic NEPO BABY! It makes my blood boil! 😢 Don't me too, unless it's true, she's got zero receipts& he does
Same!!!! And victims are especially blessed with special powers to smell/see smoky BS
BL and her PR team effectively invalidated, at the very least contributed to the invalidation, of each and every SH and DV survivor.
I find it a bit weird that Ryan would berate Justin for allegedly fat shaming his wife but not for the alleged Sexual Harassment? This makes no sense to me. I honestly think that Blake caught feelings for Justin and Ryan got a whiff of it and decided to take Baldoni down not expecting him to fight back or that he kept all the receipts…. Ryan probably also never realized how horrible Blake is with marketing or in interviews 😂…. We forget that Justin has a family to feed and protect so if all these accusations turn out to be false that is some evil 💩
Fat shaming isn't illegal. Sexual harassment is. Maybe that's why?
@ huh? So you’re saying fat shaming is worse than sexual harassment? 😂 if my partner was being sexually harassed you better damn well know I’m going to get that taken care of. SH compared to Fat shaming is so much worse in my book.
@@TheSingingGardener exactly
@@TheSingingGardener exactly right
EXACTLY!!! I've been saying the same thing. If RR got in Baldoni's face because of supposed "fat shaming," then why didn't he do it when LIEvly said she was being SH? And her claims of them "barging in," why didn't she lock her door so that whoever was going in would need to knock? Or are they that stupid to not think of it? If so, then LIEvly needs to get a new assistant.
Blake is a mediocre actress at best, she has coasted by using her husbands fame and reputation, but whenever she does something herself, she shows her true colours. She was mean to Krisjia the interviewer years ago, she was posted "where's Kate?" When Princess Catherine was facing chemotherapy and lots of other things. She is a mean girl and always has been. Entitled as her dad was an actor, she's a nepo baby and always used to getting her own way, even if she's wrong. She gives doubt to real victims with her dubious narcissistic actions.
I'll not call her mean; she is a bad person, plain and simple. Morally depleted, miserable spirit.
I’m in the industry people have no remote idea what a scourge the majority of nepos are on the industry. People have no idea how many actors at the top have nepotism. More of them do than more them do not. It’s a form of classism which they’re using to interlock the industry so “regular” people have a harder time getting in which is why I don’t support it. And I have dated plenty of nepos as well to live to tell the tale. The ones who are down to earth and paved their own way without using mommy or daddy’s name are hard working, respectful and amazing at their craft. I.e Joe Hill, Nicolas Cage, to name a few are great and should be there. Ofc you’ll get outliers but the ones who have hardcore banked on their parents name are more often than not entitled talentless spoiled elitist brats. One of my abusive narcissistic ex’s who said he only acts because “he likes nice things” is pushing 30 still playing his father’s son on a tv show lol.
True. She has always been just a subpar actress.
What really bothers me is people keep saying I don’t know who he is or they’re both awful. This man has a long-standing career of meaningful writings, podcast and things he’s directed
I also loathe women who say any man who calls himself a feminist is a red flag. Men can’t win. This is also how we corner men to become more conservative.
Thank you. Completely agree. Two people are not always wrong. Some people are honest when they say they believe in something. Sadly we live in a world where it is so rare to be good and honest that everyone gets doubted.
💯 ppl cant fathom what a healthy emotionally intelligent man looks like so its easier to write it off as something else. Its shameful. Justin deserves justice
In a battle that mirrors the timeless story of David versus Goliath, Justin finds himself up against RR and BL, a powerful and ruthless couple driven by greed and manipulation. While RR and BL seem to use their influence to push others down and maintain control, Justin stands firm, armed with nothing but truth and evidence to back his claims. Team Justin!!!!
@@TinDelosreyes-u5l David won that battle!
Well said
@@TinDelosreyes-u5l 100%!!!!1
You're so right, Justin has his faith too, and as we say (Muslim here), light always preveils, God is the Greatest and the Strongest.
Blake's completely missed the mark & she's not funny it never lands
Witty jokes or banter require a certain level of intelligence and confidence to land. And she lacks both.
@@jazzyg530 it’s just cloaked meanness.
So she was SH during filming, yet she waited until after the movie was released, joked about DV in interviews, told everyone to grab their friends and florals like it was a romcom, disrespected interviewers, pushed her haircare line and alcohol brand and her husband’s movie in each and every chance she got, and only when people started criticizing her behavior and her businesses flopped did she suddenly remembered that she was SH during the shoot. what kind of bullshit is that ….🤣🤣🤣 , I’m actually surprised if there are people who falls for her downright lies just because she’s more powerful. 🤦🏻♀🤦🏻♀🤦🏻♀
I know right? Come on!
She also had the power to rewrite the script, take over wardrobe, bring in her bestie, Taylor, involve her husband with production during the writer's strike, not only keep him away from the premier but have him & his family sentence to the basement but was powerless on set.... There is NO fucking way she went along with anything she didn't feel comfortable... she iwas all about power, control, grabbing and bullying the director...
not to mention, blake also promoted her alcohol brand which is so tone deaf for DV victims and SH victims
Thankkk youuuuuu. It just doesn’t make any sense!!
I fail to understand why she would not sue him over the SH allegations, but she would file a complaint for an alleged smear campaign. The SH accusations came only after he got his lawyer.
#TeamJustinBaldoni from the very beginning and never even doubted he was innocent. His only mistake was picking a Colleen Hoover book as a source material for his big project. That woman has been trying to make her Hollywood break for years now. Her horrid book “Ugly Love”, that traumatized me as a woman, almost got a screen adaptation. The actor for main male character was picked the trailer was already coursing through the internet but the movie thankfully never happened. No wonder she is holding onto Blake with her own version of a Markle claw. She’s desperate for E. L. James level of stardom. If not for shallow tiktok creators, Colleen Hoover would have stayed in the dark corner of disliked authors with absolutely zero talent of character creation. She hates men so much that she absolutely destroys women in her book to present her “flawed” male leads 🤦🏼♀️
@@gayavardan makes you think
@@gayavardan I’m not impressed with Hoover over the fact that one minute she was arm in arm with Justin and the next she’s unfollowing him and telling everyone how honest Blake has been. She knew that Blake was trying to take the film from Justin and I believe Hoover helped in some way. All for money. No integrity.
I’ve been through the filings. I’m very much leaning toward Team Baldoni on this one.
@@HeyyyRobyn team Justice for Justin🙏💔
With the receipts I’ve seen so far- Blake and Ryan are the bullies. Team Baldoni-so far. We’ll see what comes out in court and I may change my mind.
Did you do any research into Justin?
Also, it’s just weird that people are picking aside
It’s gonna be a wild trial! Can’t wait to watch it.
Have you seen the interview where Baldoni discusses playing Ryle and says "...oh, I went too far"?
Why are you 'team' anything? You don't know these people and they don't give a shit about you. Celebrity obsession is so weird.
Ever heard of method acting? That's not what he meant. He was in character and the airhead couldn't stay in character long enough to save her own life. @@HelenKistler
The Nice Pool character based on Justin was shot down by Lady Pool played by Blake in front of a flower shop like her character in It Ends With Us👀 Her Laissez-faire attitude about SA and blatant mockery of Justin with her husband publicly do not reflect trauma… and that is the tip of the iceberg.
Looks to me that the only people obviously traumatized by the movie were the crew & costars caught in the middle of this pr war!
@@shakeshakeyourlove you’re probably right
I think I’m quite aware of my own biases and am not afraid to challenge them. What I think has happened is that social media has made it more difficult for celebrities to control their own narrative. People get instincts about other people. Regardless of what was in the media, I was uncomfortable watching Blake Lively promote the film and had noticed things about her behaviour (I.e., bullying the Princess of Wales when she had cancer, other mean spirited behaviour she has exhibited etc) that made me feel like she is not someone I would trust, idolise or want to be around. When the film came out, the way she excluded Baldoni felt off and the way she promoted the film was insulting to DV survivors. It simply confirmed by belief about her. However, even though complaint felt more strategic than sincere, I doubted my instincts and based on the evidence, decided I had made incorrect assumptions. What has made me so enraged is after reading Baldoni’s 179 page document, I firmly believe he is telling the truth and that
Blake not only insulted DV victims, she has also exploited systems meant to protect them. The public have seen through her.. fool me once - shame on you, fool me twice - shame on me.
I read it too and agree with you 100%
Well said 👏🏼😊
@bee_wildered and then doubled down siting DARVO as Justin's tactic. Now she wants to identify with people who have suffered abuse? Yet she did not when promoting the movie! So insulting.
I appreciate your thoughtful commentary and I agree with you 100%. My BS radar is blaring with Lively. Mega ego and low empathy is a very dangerous combination and those that are lower in the food chain are in danger of being taken down. I’m proud of JB because you can feel his authenticity. We shouldn’t believe a woman, just because she’s a woman. Predators come in both sexes. I do feel some compassion for Blake Lively because she obviously has a serious personality disorder. As a survivor of narc abuse for half of my life, I feel for those who are so empty and disconnected from their humanity. God help her babies.
It’s very good that you realized the truth after seeing the evidence! Some people refuse to see it no matter what. That’s very scary!
Ryan parodying Justin secretly in his movie is legally very problematic for Blake’s case. … the Ryan and Blake team are in trouble in the litigation. Pass the popcorn.
The ultra-violence in that Nicepool parody was particularly disturbing... it crossed the line in so many ways.
@@sentissystems3839 It is clear how mean and nasty these two are!
Pass the popcorn and wear your florals 😂
And wear your florals
I'm leaning towards Baldoni.
That location share answer was so dumb. Im sorry. Blake is 37 yrs old. I'd understand the silliness of the reply if she's 12 yrs old. I dont know what's she's trying to prove there.
@@avjam I cringed 😬
Honestly the question was dumb. She's not a therapist but the way she answered was like how dare u ask me to actually talk to the poors that saw and connected to my movie. Like it's laughable any peasant would have the nerve to tell her your movie meant a lot to me. Bc she doesn't gaf. I think Justin actually does care that his movie was important to survivors of abuse. Actions speak louder than words.
@@owenlyons76 dumb question or not. She is highly tone deaf. Being a celebrity has its perks (money/status) but it also comes with its responsibilities when having a huge public platform. She is the epitome of the word entitled. I think she truly believed she was untouchable and exempt from cancel culture.
Definitely good points and a very interesting dive into herd mentality, but I have to reiterate that many people speaking on the Lively/Baldoni case do not fall into that camp at all. A huge number of people were on Lively’s side when her first complaint came out in December, and after seeing Baldoni’s evidence first hand they switched “sides” and openly admitted they were wrong to judge Baldoni so quickly. At this point it wasn’t a case of “which side are you on”, because no one really knew of Baldoni before all this. What we were now seeing was a relatively unknown artist being deliberately targetted and scape-goated in an elaborate hostile takeover to steal his life’s work, and all this being achieved through bare faced lies to manipulate us, the public, and take advantage of our support and good will. Most people who appear to be supporting Baldoni are not actually invested in his side at all. They are mad at Lively, Reynolds, and all these big corrupt heavy hitters in Hollywood whom we are now seeing have done nothing but lie and manipulate us for years, and thrown our patronage in our faces. This has become personal.
This exactly! Then her PR team tells us we are being manipulated and confused to believe JB instead.
Yeah, we are BIG mad.
I agree, well said
Well said!
Thank you!!! This is exactly how it happened for me too. Although, I was suspicious at first cuz I found her initial complaint really cheesy (“No More…”) Plus that NYT article was obviously a hit piece. I just need to add how incredibly disappointed I am with Megan Twohey. Now I get what kind of journalist she really is.
@@ChakahMeat I literally got caught by all of this because after that article came out, he sued NYT. Confirmed journalism is dead! Otherwise, I was just going to ignore this whole thing.
A pretty intern on set years ago was scolded for trying to talk to blake lively,and girl said she didnt..lively said she talked to me like a fan😮 young lady was threatened of losing her job😮 crazy blake
I smell narcissist, explains why she's so nasty to others
How sad would it be if ‘We should believe women’ is being used as a weapon by a woman! And there is video footage showing Blake being a bully….proof of character…therefore there is justification to question her allegations.
Kind of like AH
Team Justin on this one..and she's bringing Ryan with her
there is a pattern that I saw here. I'm team decent human being pattern, team baldoni. protect that man and his family.
Team Justine❤🎉
Yes, it's only the narcissistic, mean-girl bully type (or the coward suck-up enabler types) who are siding with her. During the Amber Heard thing I noticed it was only the nasty-spirited people who were siding with her. Noone else.
Oh clearly, you didn’t see his old content. Like his proposal video or his wedding video where it was all about him and he said nothing about his wife to be. The man is a narcissist. Don’t get me wrong. Blake is a horrible person too, but we do not need to protect Justin Baldoni.
He is Protected by the Lord and the Holy Spirit doesn’t leave his side, So, there’s NO NEED to WORRY 🙏🏼❤️
@@AREA-jp8vb
Talking with out really knowing what YOU MEAN… makes No sense.
I disagree with the statement that women should just be believed when they call out sexual harassment. Women should be taken seriously, and a fair investigation done, but no one should just be believed on their word alone. I am a woman, and I experienced harassment in the workplace before it was considered a problem, but I have also seen so many women make false accusations out of jealousy, revenge, anger, spite, whatever just because they can. Maybe it gives them a sense of power and control they don’t otherwise feel. Or it’s an “easy” way to mess with someone and don’t consider, or care about, the ramifications on the other person. So this is a tough situation. What will I know of JB is very positive, while BL has been shady. I welcome any thoughts?
100%
I'm older and can still remember when it was "ok" to slap a female co-worker on the rump and tell women to smile more. Also have seen several women lie about harassment just to be petty. I wanted to believe her but facts are facts. Unless evidence comes out that's above reproach and doctoring, she lost my support. Just another woman to weaponise false accusations and the movement to save her public image. Her and her husband deserve each other.
I agree.
I agree, it should always be investigated and taken seriously, but not assume she is right automatically.
I was never on either side at first because I have always believed in hearing and seeing both sides of the story before having an opinion. I don't just believe all women without question. I, instead follow the evidence and thus far there is evidence that supports Justin's side of the story here.
I am curious though. Why were people so quick to believe Blake right out the gate once she made these allegations? Because she's a woman?? Because women don't lie about SH? I ask because I am curious.
I remember the case of a male nurse who was accused of something by a female patient, he could prove it didn't happen but said it really scared him because all she had to say was "he touched me too long / inappropriately during a glute injection" and he would not have been able to prove anything.
My brother was accused of rape when he was 18 years old it turned out. The girl had been raped by someone else, but it was easier to accuse my brother than to accuse the real rapist. She nearly destroyed my brother’s life because she lied. Yes, she was raped, but she had no right to blame my brother.
I trust just facts with proofs, she did not show me any , Justin Showed me proofs.. easy.
And not proof of his own claims, but proof that what she's saying is not true which is even worse.
Team Justin..good man with compassion,and helping for years peoples families while loved ones dying!! Even bought fan to premeir cause her dying wish to meet him!! They wer sent to basement and lady passed 3 months later😢❤
Yes. He absolutely did. His claims can be out well be proved I think. He was dropped by his agency, lost deals, and definitely lost wages, not being able to continue with part 2 of the movie, if he even gets to keep the rights to it.
@@LSalomon-nb7bvshould sue agency next!
@@LSalomon-nb7bv he will prevail..goodness verses evil..team Justin❤️
This was a very well thought out vudeo, with that said Justin has so much proof its embarrassing, I really want his name cleared he is a good man.
Team Justin from the start. I see red flags with that bully Blake and am glad for Justin that he has a killer lawyer.
Blake's spoiled narcissist NEPO BABY, she doesn't need a PR firm to make her look bad, she's got it down to a science
Some things that I think you missed. Lively accused him of coming into her trailer uninvited while she was breast feeding. Justin produced texts that prove she invited him in. Also, lively accused him of whispering inappropriate things while filming the dance scene. She didn’t realize he had a mic on and everything was recorded proving he did no such thing. She accused him of offending he by talking about her clothes as “sexy”. He had footage of her talking with the crew about her sexy shoes and other things. She accused him of lingering over kisses, he has footage of her spontaneously kissing him when it wasn’t scripted. She said they didn’t have an intimacy coordinator, there was one but she refused to meet with them. She wanted to write the script but refused to actually read the book it’s based upon. Everything she accused him of, he has footage, texts, and emails to disprove and has stated he will put it all up online for everyone to see… then there’s the fact that she made fun of princess Catherine when she was first diagnosed with cancer. She’s just not a good person
Blake is no doubt a snake 🐍!
Exactly 🎯
She's not a good person is a very mild way of saying what she does. Trolling The Princess of Wales about having cancer!! Who does Blake Lively think she is?? This women has a problem, she behaves like a narcissist.
Seems she has been treating people like rubbish for a long time.
I don’t believe an actor would just walk in another actor’s trailer without knocking first.
Someone with nothing to hide is a dangerous person. Baldoni is coming out with all the receipts, and countering all of Blake’s claims. His lawyer said they were going to sue into oblivion, and they are. Blake and Ryan need knocked down a peg or two, anyway. And shame on Colleen Hoover for ruining a 5 year friendship with Justin to side with Blake due to her level of fame.
I think 1 Huge indicator of Blake being a bad person that jokes in a mean passive aggressive way was her saying some of us were born in cages in an interview and pointed to Leighton Meester then laughed and said oh it was just a joke. But Leighton was born in prison bc her mom was a convict. She's not funny. She's cruel and tries to pretend it's just a joke. Which is very typical of a narc abuser. They humiliate people with a big smile on their face.
I think BL is a monster. Granted we’ll never know exactly what happened but the fact that BL has tons of interviews acting like a terrible person makes it pretty easy.
I saw an article where text messages were read, and Blake told him to come to her trailer to read lines, even told him she was breast feeding, but to come anyway.
Told him she was 'pumping' (using a device for breast milk extraction). She also said ' I'm comfortable'
False. Firstly she was pumping not breastfeeding and secondly nowhere did she invite him in her personal trailer. I invite you to read the text more carefully. She merely told him what she was doing and where and proposed to work, just like you could tell somebody that you are at home taking a shower and then propose to meet. Would It mean that you want this person to come at your house while you are under the shower? Surely not and the same was for Lively. As a fact in his reply he said that he would meet her at h-mu, the hair and make up trailer. Why would he go in another place if she had invited him in her personal trailer? The only reason Is that he knew that she wasn't inviting him in her personal trailer which means that in his lawsuit he lies consciously just like he does with many other things. He is a liar and a sexual harasser. Please, don't side with a sexual harasser, what has happened to Lively could happen to you too or to someone you care about.
@@stefania8715 bt why was she promoting her hair care and betty buzz and Deadpool and aviation gin throughout the promotion while everyone knows dv is a sensitive topic and it would have been great if that was d main focus
I was a Blake fan
But now I realized they r just power hungry and take advantage of people
Mocking nice pool and killing him n making fun of him I doubt I will do dt if I was sh
Weird duo
@@stefania8715and Blake has a history of bullying people n making fun of them and when people react she would say I was joking it's a joke
I had a narcissistic frnd just like her that I got sick at one point just like baldoni. N they were so charismatic and got everything that they wanted but years of acquaintance with her I had enough n left now m so much at peace I wonder whose innocent soul she is dragging now just like Blake if things don't pan out d way dy want
Seriously over charismatic , at d beginning they would praise n love bomb but those insults would come randomly
So please be beware of too good to be true kinda people. It's always a scam
@@jjopi5656 Blah Blah blah. You paid trolls just go on and on with the same old dumb arguments 🥴 bully, narcisist, mean girl, whatever... nothing changes the fact that Baldoni is a sexual harasser and a liar. Period 👋
Always appreciate your take on things. Many of us are basing early opinion about which person may be more innocent based on actual evidence of the character of the people involved. My opinion isn’t based on social identity and wanting to be a part of a ‘group’ or needing to make a decision now. It’s based on already seeing the evidence that is out there. There are actual text messages and emails in the recent ‘long’ court documents that show clearly how manipulative Blake was to take over the film and bully her way in…throwing around her husband’s and Taylor Swift’s celebrity heavyweight to get her way so she could look good and take over Justin’s movie. There is evidence of Blake’s bully and entitled persona over the years. Which matchs her actions and the evidence so far in this case.
So my tendency to lean in Justin’s direction has nothing to do with your two reasons….but more to do with feeling the need to side with the underdog. The one who is being taken advantage of. The one who is being stomped on by a selfish diva who just wants to look good in the silly celebrity world. Once you see all the ‘tea’ out there, and what comes out in court, I’ll be curious if you agree that a third category is a ‘righteous anger’ that we humans experience when we see someone getting the short end of the stick and we can see that something is unfair and want to speak out against that injustice. A couple months ago, I didn’t know negative things about Blake and Ryan. And had no idea who Justin was. But after measuring evidence of what is out there so far, it’s easy to see a developing pattern that there is a much higher chance that she is exactly who she is showing herself to be. And I think a lot of us are looking forward to this crazy, unhealthy side of toxic Hollywood to finally be exposed. I think people are tired of celebrities who think they are ‘all that’ and better than the rest of us. I think that plays an important role in all this.
But what gives you the right to judge her ? Nothing does. What she has or has not done does not impact your life in anyway. You do not know her personally. You werent involved in the making of the film. You are a bystander to something that has nothing to do with you or me. That is why I am not judging her.
@@heavenlyvilla8681 None of what they posted was judgement. Deducing that Blake Lively is manipulative is a 100% reasonable analysis based on all the visual and verbal evidence. Judging would be taking one look at someone or one thing they did once and labelling them from then on. This is not what has happened here. Also there is a huge difference between judging and actually seeing the truth of a matter. We are finally seeing and speaking out against the corrupt power imbalances inherent in our social and working lives, as evidenced by what has been going on in Hollywood
Well said @cheryla596 👏🏻
@@cheryla596 well said! We have to accept the evidence and think critically, not just follow the masses bc it looks and sounds good.
@@heavenlyvilla8681same question to you what gives her the right to mock a person and bully. Have u noticed nice pool??
Did u even see what she was promoting?
Aviation gin, betty buzz, haircare line, Deadpool except talk about dv
Which sums up who she really is
I was a Blake fan too but just becos she screams sh doesn't mean we have to trust her evry word everything needs evidence not just words. Till now m yet to see concrete hard proof against him
#TeamJustin
Blake is awful!
“Awful” is a big understatement. Anyone who would willingly falsely accuse another of sexual harassment is pure ev!l. Someone like that is quite scary and capable of anything in my opinion.
I’m team Baldoni - something about Blake lively seems disingenuous
@@susanb.1772 doesnt mean everything she says is wrong. Doesnt make everything he says right. We do t have all the facts so why pick a side on a gut feeling?
@@Ashnod24 if blake can lie and exaggerate about the little things, then she is definitely lying and exaggerating about the big things
@@Annes.Archives wish the world was as simple as you make it. Its not.....
I find her quite genuine actually - genuinely glib and self-absorbed.
Team Justin here as well. She comes across as self absorbed and a bully from past interviews that I have seen. Shades of Amber Heard/Johnny Depp here.
People siding with Fake Lively are either told they'd get something out of it or downright dumb af. And with her dragons namely Ryan and Taylor keeping quiet about the meeting at their house tell us that they are in really deep trouble. Team Justin all the way! Justice for Justin.
Exactly..shes been mean for years to people and they wanted the rights to his movie
@@XtianJade Taylor should make a statement letting people know that she just thought that she was helping a friend and didn’t know the details of it if that’s what really happened.
Very insightful explanation on how we choose sides. I immediately thought Blake was treated poorly but now realize that was how I had aligned myself. This is a lesson on how I should be a critical thinker and not jump to a conclusion
All I can say is that I can't wait for this to go to court so we can see the receipts.
Same. I’m super curious if it will or if BL and RR will settle. They’d better have an ace up their sleeve.
Me too! They both look like assholes right now lol
Baldonis lawyer has promised to dump everything on the internet for public consumption.
The receipts are all in the filings. He's got a lot of them!
His lawsuit against BL and RR is stacked with receipts.
You are right that none of us have inside information, however, the two legal cases are there for everyone to read and just judging by the receipts that the Baldoni team have, its not looking good for Lively & Reynolds. It looks very much like more of power struggle than SH.
You should analyse why RR did mock Baldoni on Deadpool? Playing Nicepool they are videos online you can find them easily. Why did he think it was a good idea to do that if his wife was SH? Why a husband would do that ?
@@LaporteNadine pure envy
Absolutely with Justin
I think you are wrong on this one. While I do agree that we all have our biases that we tend to lean towards a lot of people were believing Blake Lively until baldoni released all of his evidence and so far it looks like she has completely lied. It's just too much evidence to ignore so even those on Blake Lively side have switched over.
Not everybody, I believe Blake, obfuscating the initial claim, doesn't negate that she isn't alone in making her's
@@Obi-MomKenobi You should read the lawsuit against her. It's stacked with evidence that she's lying.
@@lorimargaret7129yeah. Unfortunately for Blake side, he showed that most if not all of her text messages were altered to be seen in a certain light whereas if you were to in some cases, just look at the very next line you’ll see the text exchange is completely opposite what Blake side said. Like that text about the PR team saying how lucky Baldoni is and that they can “bury her” only to have if you continue on in the text chain saying that Baldoni and his side do not understand that the truth will not win out with an accusation like this and then they called Blake a lying psychopath and that they should just be grateful that all that came out at the time was that he was “difficult“ and that’s why the cast didn’t like him. If Blake lively wants to prove her accusation she’s gonna have to explain why anybody should believe her when she’s gotten caught so many times manipulating the text messages so much so that they say the complete opposite of what she originally said and if it happened once well, maybe it could’ve just been an accident but his lawsuit pretty much disproved every single one and then added things like the fact that she made fun of Baldoni‘s nose, and that was caught on camera with audio the many times she claimed that she was harassed.
@Obi-MomKenobi did you read the full documents on both sides? Not headlines or summaries but the whole thing on both sides?
I am on the side of the facts. So far, that is Justin.
How could a personal trainer share a private conversation with Blake Lively? What was his intention when he told BL, a woman apparently uncomfortable in her own body? Wasn't there a breach of trust? I think JB was smart enough not to ask BL directly about her weight. This pettiness about fat shaming was born of the trainer's mistake, and probably to this day, he hasn't apologized.
Two types of questions: "To prepare for portage, I need to know how much you and JB weigh" versus "Did you know that JB asked me how much you weighed? " The first is professional, the second is chatty.
I saw or read somewhere that the trainer was working with both of them during filming. If BL really was trying to sabotage JB to get control of the film/sequel she may have grilled the trainer looking for something she could use against him? 🤷
He's a personal trainer to BL n RR and uses that connection to get more clients. BL is the one who recommended this trainer to JB who turned out to be another unprofessional snitch.
th-cam.com/video/GURSs5pK-ok/w-d-xo.html
Th trainer trains them both. Very simple
This is probably the most insightful best take I’ve seen so far. I wish every TH-camr and commenter would be this responsible.
Is that why the ending was so unrealistic? Abusers never ever leave that gracefully or nicely ! It just came across as very diluted
@ I wouldn’t know, I never saw it.
Never doubted Justin and never believed Blake.
Team Justin all the way!
Read the lawsuit-Baldonis lawsuit with all the receipts. It’s a no brainer
Justin all the way. After reading 59 pages of his filings so far of 179 pages. He has the proof.
The wild thing about this is how heated people get about their opinion on people they don’t even know! Like Megyn Kelly trash talking Blake Lively on TV is insane.
I’m team “wait for it to go to court and maybe I’ll form an opinion when we have more information”
Many were ready to believe Blake Lively until they found out how the text messages had been manipulated. So there's a reason why the woman isn't believed in this case. It's not because of her gender, but because this woman in question distorted the truth. In addition, it has been revealed how she actually dominated and caused difficulties during filming and in the marketing of the film. Her own behavior does not give signs that she was a victim in the situation. Her behavior and messages show that she had the power and Baldoni was the one who had to give in and be on his toes around her the whole time. People are not stupid. Just because people don't believe HER for very good reasons, does not mean that people hate women and disbelieve them in general.
Ryan & Blake are raging narcissists.
I won’t be watching anything they’re involved with
If you are not sure what side you are on then I don't think you read each sides legal documents. If you only listen to other creators then yes confusing but please please if you are going to talk about it you need to read the documents. It provides a breakdown of everything that happened with the proof of such events included with.
@@hannah37458 yes! People need to read it for themselves and not just listen to what others are saying!
Very interesting take.
In my case, I learned about the case from lawtubers where they read the New York article and then a big part of the court filings. And they tend to be pretty neutral. The last court filing from Baldoni makes me lean for him because of the receipts but really, I am just waiting for the trial.
I’m making my assessment on all the receipts. All the videos showing her being a narcissistic bully and he was always a nice guy in all his interviews. Also I’m looking at all his receipts that show her to be a liar.
Thank you for talking about this and trying to explain why we are feeling the need to align with a side. This ‘fight’ of theirs has left me unsettled and I didn’t understand why.
I agree. For me the unsettled part is all the judgment and hate I have seen online, mostly directed towards Blake. I would like to think that we are not so quick to judge or to hate people we know in real life, so do people do it online.
Yes…I hate the ‘quick to judge’ part of this. We are all human.
I just see Justin defending himself and Blake being herself. It’s sad, my daughters are big Blake fans. I tell them it all comes down to how you treat people.
This spoilt girl has finally met her match.
The karma chickens have come come to roost.
No, very few people think they understand. That AmberHeard v Johnny Depp trial taught everyone to wait until all of the information comes out.
But in the meantime, we are enjoying the discussion and the speculation.
@@kks2360 so far we do know that Blake lied a lot and lost credibility. The full picture will come out in court!
@ that’s where we all are, yep! And we know BL doesn’t have to provide more evidence publicly right now, but we really want to know what her proof of SH is
Lively does have a lot of proof coming out in court.
@@sherryg1838 I don’t think she has much proof. If there were real problems to begin with, why did she rearrange texts and lie so much. It’s not a misunderstanding. They are flat out lies. She wanted the public to believe her and yet she kept giving us lies. It’s ridiculous!
@@MarySummers-l5e Watch the video by Stepchick.
The bottom line is she’s a liar. She’s a mean girl and she’s manipulative. There’s nothing else we need to learn or understand about the situation. She thought she could jump on this me too movement and shame him and lie about him to get her way and it’s backfiring on her and now she’s crying about it.
Lively joined the public breastfeeding and pumping movement (see online), until she decided to use being viewed doing so as sexual harassment.
Thank u for this! Your psychological perspective/breakdown is why I follow your channel.
I know nothing of this crazy drama 😂😂😂😂😂
This was a super interesting video! I’d love to hear more about psychology and how social media and news perpetuate confirmation bias. I feel like many people are fearful right now and confirmation bias is stronger than ever.
Hugely grateful for your perspective - even though it may not have been the actual purpose of the video. As a criminal defense paralegal, I find myself getting so infuriated seeing how people see a headline and suddenly start screaming that a person needs to be put to death, hanged, or castrated. I do not understand how people can be so certain in their opinion of someone’s guilt when they only have the tiniest snippet of the story. Fair trials are impossible - everyone has a strong bias in some way.
And the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
The voice of reason 👍🏻
maybe slightly leaning to justin's side.
It's not a tribal matter. It's a legal matter. There are plenty of videos, messages, contracts and supervision all over this industry i.e.: For a "A" lister to sue for harassment when she haven't signed the Intimacy Rider is preposterous, and a sign of bad intimidation-by-litigation. There's evidence that a Director, lead actor and owner of the film rights was bullied and extorted from his work and reputation. US$ 400 + 250 million lawsuits will be decided by facts, not psychology.
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There is proof she is lying about the s.h. because he proved he wanted a person there at all time to make sure scenes didn't make anyone uncomfortable and she refused to use the person. She only says S.H. once her true character comes forward. Only after people start to realize that she stole this movie away from this man. There are no old clips or proof from people surfacing that he is the kind of person she is trying to paint him as. There are tons of proof that she is exactly who she has been telling us she is for years. When someone tells you who they are, believe them! She is exactly the kind of bully that will take everything from you, edit text messages, and worst of all scream $exual harrassment in order to save her image!
@@WinWithJen Blake is such a snake 🐍!
Team Justin, you can tell how passionate he was to make this film as an artist. Blake was unprofessional in every way possible, she’s a disgusting person
Love what you said, it’s okay to sit with the uncomfortable feelings and keep gathering info before we decide our position.
I don't really agree with this wanting to just go along with a community I identify with. I would prefer that women didn't use real issues of SH and such as a weapon. But I don't see BL as telling the truth here. On first reading of her complaint it all sounded terrible, but then i literally thought this might not be true. Since then JB has put his complaint out and that sounds more feasible to me. Especially considering she did actually take control of the film.
Love your take! Keep the videos coming on various content because it's great!
That was interesting David. I, like you, haven’t really followed the drama surrounding this. I watched because I watch pretty much every video that you and / or you and Alison do. It has become is a goal of mine over the last few years, to never commit to a rhetoric so strongly that I am , when presented with new information, unable to change my mind. This was encouraging.
Thanks for breaking this ordeal down David, I’ve been avoiding this story because it seemed to messy.
If Ryan's wife was really being sexually harassed, why would he not try to get his wife out of this situation and get her to safety? Why would he not confront Justin about the SH instead of the fat shaming?? Instead he writes a scene in his Deadpool movie making fun of a guy who supposedly sexually harassed his wife?? What guy would do that if their wife was really being harmed? None of this makes any sense because it doesn't and Blake is most likely lying. #TeamJustin
@@SilkyShish good point!
Justin brought receipts, Blake lied.
There's no difficult decision here...
I think it’s also a strong sense of intuition and discernment that many of us have. Our subconscious notices her body language, tone, facial expressions etc. And we sense it all. She also has a pattern of being petty, arrogant and unkind, and we simply don’t trust her!
We weren’t there but we can get the idea from reading their actions and words. Blake deserves what’s is coming for her
To me, it’s a tragic case of a beautiful young girl that turned into a beautiful woman that never heard the word “no”. Probably from childhood. It’s a temper tantrum out of control and very very sad. Justin has to protect himself, get this wrapped up, and Blake needs to rebuild with quiet introspection. People forgive and forget quickly.
Would be good but unfortunately some personality types cannot retrospect - let's hope anyway.
When this first came out I waited for the counter to see the whole picture. After seeing both I can see her perception is altered and messing with someone's reputation and work is not okay.
I think you are very fair and bring up some valid points. Personally, I think Justin wanted to bygones be bygones. Things had all died down but then lively went nuclear on dec 20th. Honestly her complaints have a lot of holes
As someone who was (allegedly) sexually harassed, you’d think she would show a bit more compassion when talking about DV victims…
😂 I am one of those who is following this on Tik Tok and it’s crazy.
“I wish I could say I was done with the drama, but there’s more!” Wiggly Fingers. Classic. Love this channel!
Ryan is the re-editor he wrote the rooftop scene and no one told Justin
During the writers strike
@@kathryngilbert5952 wait a minute, if Ryan and Taylor were pushing the new re-writes, was it during the writers strike??
What I have been able to deduce (although I completely say I could be mistaken) both people seem to be awful. Why do we have to pick a winner when both might not be worth our time?
I’m happy he made aware the fact that she shames that woman journalist for asking about the wardrobe but then BL made the wardrobe #1 priority in It Ends w Us .
Imagine how tense things are at Blake and Ryan's hse right now. Shock that the world has turned on them and we are not just falling at their feet in adoration. Bet Ryan is looking for something snarky to say as deadpool? 😅😂
They are following the Amber Heard strategy which is not advisable. I can’t believe only imagine they have only one move to make ,and that is offering every actor and crew from that film work in the future.
Anyone who's seen the clip from the Gossip Girl cast interview when Blake brings up that Leighton was born IN A CAGE (she was literally born to an incarcerated woman) and LOLs about it knows that Blake is a cruel person with little empathy or consideration for others. Based on that alone, I'm going to choose my confirmation bias for Baldoni. Also, the fact that Blake didn't even READ THE BOOK but thinks she's qualified to edit the film?
Team Baldoni of course!
I’m glad you covered this from this perspective. It has been so weird to me how people have so strongly taken a side about things that they have no firsthand knowledge about.
If there is one thing I have learned in all my years, it is that every person in a situation will have their own perspective on what occurs, driven by their past experiences, fears, upbringing, beliefs, etc. If you have 3 people being part of something, all 3 will have a different experience (there may be similarities, but stories will still vary). In this case, only two people know the truth, Blake and Justin. Even if there is a trial, the complete truth may not come out as courts frequently suppress or choose evidence that fits a narrative.
There's evidence of exactly what happened in the texts. Blake kept trying to get ahold of jobs that she wasn't hired for and the people working behind the scenes were constantly annoyed at how she was trying to take over. That story was a rumor at first but the texts prove it happened. Women are capable of lying about sexual harassment and that seems to be something our culture needs to come to grips with.
🎯 We don’t know what actually happened and I feel they both look bad though she looks way worse. She also has a pattern of feuding with co stars and being difficult to work with. But he’s showed me enough evidence 1) that backs up his side and 2) shows her clearly lying in her complaint/lawsuit
Team Justin ✊️ There is Zero evidence supporting Any of Blake's claims. In this case, one person is Right and one person is Wrong... stop making it out to be that BOTH sides may have merit.
Great information. I needed to hear this!
Are you forgetting that Baldoni posted the texts in concurrence? That’s the most pertinent part of this.
I don't know who any of these people are and this is the first time I'm hearing about their struggles but I enjoyed listening to you talk about it. 🖤
All you need to know about this case is that forensic software doesn’t render emoji’s in transcripts. That’s just a FACT. So he’s lying. But if he wasn’t, then you have to believe Steph jones and her attorneys committed about 50 felonies to remove an emoji.
And that makes more sense to you than, ‘he’s just fuckin lying?’