Christian Talks to an Agnostic [Street Conversation]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- On this video, Preston has an intense conversation with an agnostic. They talk about morality, slavery, and where we get our standards from, outside of God.
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I love how he lets them talk! he is not trying to argue, he's trying to get them to think! YES PRESTON!
So true!💯💯💯
That's great. I was agnostic. My mom told me to keep an open mind (thank God!) about the bible... as it might all be true. I called out to God in 2012 when my heart stopped, and found out --- it IS all true... and got a new heart from Jesus.
He kept dismissing her argument to prove his argument that morality is dictated by believing in God.....he asked her "Do you think slavery was morally wrong in the 1600s and the 1700s" and she said "well society accepted it at that time.".......and society did accept it during those times and a lot of slavery owners were Christians........was the Bible or Christianity different then?
Right
These conversations always go in circles.
Willie Jones still worth it? Most of us think about it afterwards. Seeds planted. God can bring it to full maturity. 🌴
Chris Chris I literally forgot about this guy, video, and whichever religion he follows. But your comment reminded me of this videos existence. Thx.
Willie Jones lol well aren’t you clever. You’re welcome! To remind you, it’s Christian faith and He was passionate. Was this his most interesting conversation to watch? We can chose our answer but I like that he’s at least willing to live boldly for what he believes.
The moment she mentioned that Jesus is one of her favourite people in history is where I would’ve turned the conversation. Her knowing about Jesus means that she has probably read the bible, this was an opening that you could’ve used by asking her why. But still well done cause she’s a tough one. I can’t wait to see part 2 of your conversation.
I am an atheist and I think that we need more Jesus.
I feel like talking to these people agnostics is just walking in a big circle they make no sense at all and they hurt my brain thank God for you man of God God knows the right person to send and I seriously mean that in all humility.
This is so dope! It convicts me to do more research regarding my faith, and learn more about what others believe. So needed! Thank you for doing this. 🙏🏾
Midnight Believers same!
You should check out Ray Hagins
Ok, I will.
Me too but I don’t know where to start, as far as what books to buy and this and that
@@royaldominionauthorityglob4813 I would read, "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist" by Frank Turek. I also took a course through FIRE School of Ministry called, "Cults and other Religions" which provides a broad overview of various faiths and beliefs. I believe they offer the course online.
She’s confusing morality with legality regarding slavery. Society determines what is legal, but it can never determine what is moral. The existence of slave owners 200 years ago and the elimination of slave owners today is not a testament to changing morality, rather changing legality. We make laws based upon what we think are right and wrong. Slavery was eliminated as a practice not because of a change in morality, rather through enlightenment of morality. It’s precisely because we acknowledged that slavery (chattel slavery) was wrong that we adopted laws to outlaw it.
Shes right shes more logical
Good point!
@@soufsidereport6292 Bro i talked to you on the streets the other day and you had very little to say to me. You let your wife do most of the talking. I answered all of your questions and you answered not of mine but now you have things to say? come on bro. lol .
@@apologeticswithprestonperr4060 will get our chance to exchange philosophy soon. Wise brother actually me and her self educated our self and brother josey wanted to express his knowledge.
BOLD TV Would you say it is always immoral for an adult to whip another adult?
she is a very well-spoken young lady! I pray she finds the Lord. her communication skills could really be helpful for the Kingdom!
If she gave her life to Christ she could be so impactful! She’s so smart!
Agreeed
Moriah Green First of all I hope you’re having an amazing day🥰
Please do not take this in the wrong way as I’m not trying to offend anyone. Every individual is bound to their beliefs and she can still help people and be impactful not following any sort of religion, I’m an agnostic studying to become a doctor does my belief means I’ll fail on that? No.
there’s over 7 billion people on this world and we’re bound to have different opinions, that doesn’t mean we have to argue, we just have to respect each other and let everyone believe in what they want to believe as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone.
In the end, you’re allowed to believe that everyone should convert to catholicism as long as no one forces that conversion, I was brought up by a christian mother so I know it’s Jesus’s wish for each and every one of us love our brothers and sisters and respect their beliefs.
Hope you have a great day❤️
Brunella thanks for being so sweet. I agree, people are capable of goodness outside of religion. But I do think it’s still because God is good. What I meant with my comment is that if her talents were utilized to spread the gospel, she would be very effective.
She speaks as a intellectual person but has no FAITH. CANT ARGUE WITH THE PROPHECIES SUCH AS CASHLESS SOCIETY, ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT ETC, THE BIBLEB IS THE ONLY BOOK THAT IS USED TO SWEAR IN ON..
As a former agnostic who found Christ, im glad you had this discussion. I pray it triggers her heart to look into the gospel. As an agnostic I was really just an undecided atheist who was to scared to admit it. I didn't like the idea of God having power or the ability to be stronger than me. I responded to My fear of God by trying to ignore him. That however didnt diminish Gods power or reality
I know you have a fireeee testimony!
Miss Mena *responded to My fear of God by trying to ignore him*
Lol, you were never an agnostic in any level, so really stfu with your moronic comment..hahaha.
Miss Mena “I responded to my fear of God by trying to ignore him. That however didn’t diminish God’s power or reality” wow, that was good.
@ SWSPORTS&IMPORTS LLC who are you to tell someone what and who they are, maybe you should shut up. You are the one making a moronic comment here..and proves her point of you don't want the responsibility of the idea that there is a God that you have to submit too.
@@swsportsimportsllc3367u cant make anyone stfu. We will continue to talk all we want. You're just miserable..poor thing. You not believing doesnt stop anyone who does..
She's a sport for staying engaged ! She could have just walked away. That's cool .
Marveline B. I think deep down she stayed because she knows there’s has to be God. Written in her conscious
@@LBay-ko9jf lol naw im just stubborn af
@@pameladelarosa3059 thats really you in video?
@Pamela delarosa have you thought anymore bout what you and Preston Perry talked bout ? By the way you being Dominican. Did you grow up around Santería? I my self is Dominican and Costa Rican and my parents practice santeria / witchcraft. But now by the Grace of God i'm born again .
Pamela Delarosa You’re cute
God has definitely given Preston the grace for this. Like I was annoyed with her for never answering the questions, she kept redirecting and ignoring that there might be a fault in her reasoning
Sakina Brown I’m not even 4 minutes in and I can’t stand it. God bless him for this one. Lol
We’re actually all called for this. It’s not easy but this is why Preston made this channel: so we can learn from him.
are you all serious? She nailed him. Oh man This guy needs better arguments.
@G_R_ I_M_ I can relate. Only advice is let them see Christ thru you
Y'all buggin, she did great, he wasn't listening. He was trying to convince her and she was just expressing her thoughts and ideas. If you can't find facts from outside of the bible, then there is prob with your reasoning frfr
She says "you keep bringing moral relativism into this", but she's a moral relativist. Like, literally her entire argument is based upon moral relativism yet she claims she hates moral relativism. Talk about lost.
Thank you! I was slow blinking - waiting for her to catch up. 😂
Thank you....I thought I was tripping
Hypocrisy!
Moral relativism is judging others based on your own culture bias... she is not doing that. Please don’t make things up to suit your narrative
@@charliecrain1830 that's one definition. Moral relativism can also be each individual or society relatively decides what is moral and immoral for themselves as opposed to the concept of objective morality. Everyone accepts that relative morality exists, but the difference here is that she denies in addition the existence of objective morality. I sincerely hope that helps with your confusion here.
So basically, I don't need God because I am my own God. The same lie that Satan fed to Eve.
So where exactly do you need God? Is it the thought and concept of God thats planted in the back of your brain? Or are you unable to succeed without God in this sinful world? Why would you even want to succeed in this sinful world and why would the God help you to succeed in this sinful world in the first place?
@DJ unless youre on LSD, then both are permissible
@DJ but we believe so much seemingly illogical stuff as everything had a designer but humans. Humanity wants to be their own God. That's the problem.
@@Aijaleena we are the designed, we don't know our capability until we return to the designer.
@@calilsaadiq1076 does that mean we will find the answers that we strongly seek through our lives only after we die? Which makes it already too late, or that the actual answer is this: it didnt matter what you accomplished or not in life. None of it matters
Ik ive been called to minister beyond the four walls but Idk if I’ll ever get to this level he has. The patience. The grace. The ability to communicate his point without getting frustrated. Like wow!!!
Chevita Thomas sis. The same Jesus Christ that lives inside Preston lives inside of you. You can’t do this. But Christ can 🙌🏽
Kiwatila 🙏🏿🙏🏿Thank you!
You will. Patience and empathy - the fruit of the spirit.
Without evidence, one is left to the imagination of one's own mind, or even worst, to the indoctrination of others. What then is a standard of truth without evidence? It is but a mere belief, a simple act of the imagination. No proof at all! Yet we are told not to lean on our own understanding. But how much less should we relax on the whims of our assumptions, for this is the reality of faith itself.
If you pray enough you can. God can mold any & everyone you got too really want it
This was dope - tough convo but the Lord really gave you grace. I'm learning SO much - thank you for this. These conversations matter! #KingdomCulture
This was a perfect example of being too smart for your own good! Her mind is her god. I pray that her heart is softened.
I got a softer heart than most christians i know, and i know a lot!!! do you see what yall be doing to gay people?!?! *shivers*
DJ There are people who claim to be Christians that do not follow the Bible And this is why you need to separate the person from what Christianity actually teaches and the Bible says you will know a true Christian by their fruit. As a Christian we are to love the Lord our God with all our heart soul and mind and to love others as ourselves. Regarding the lgbtq community as a Christian we can not agree with their lifestyle or treat them poorly because it we can only tell them the truth: Sin separates us from our Creator and there is nothing we can do to atone for it that is why God sent his only begotten son as a sacrifice for us so that whoever believes in Him and who he claims to be will not perish but have eternal life.
DJ it’s the same script because that is what the Bible is about, Christ coming to die for the sins of the world because none of us our good and we need a savior so that we can be justified. Being Christian does not mean the society will be rich Christianity is not about being successful. But just a few questions my friend, who are the oppressors you are talking about? What do you mean by you understand Who gave you the Bible?
DJ so what I am understanding is you are upset at how sinful people misused the Bible?
DJ yeah I am pretty sure I got the jist of it lol (what is something you can’t agree with that’s in the Bible) but the Bible itself is not responsible for the fallen state of a nation. sinful fallen people who manipulate it for their gain are. And I am assuming when you say you know who gave you the Bible you are referring to the white men during the slave trade Correct? I am not sure if you know though but Christianity has been in Africa specifically in Egypt since the 1st century and in the 2nd century it reached Carthage. Until Africa was invaded by the Islamic caliphate from 647-709AD
I really appreciated this video. Sometimes these kind of conversations tend to get emotional and break down logically into incoherent ravings about who is right and who is wrong. The respectful tone that Preston maintained throughout was admirable and He actually LISTENED to her and not tried to stuff pre-packaged answers down her throat. As a Christian who is an aspiring apologetic this video was much needed 🙏🏿
You and me both.
When you asked, "What is wrong with killing" and she answered, "It ensures the survival of our species", I think a good follow-up question would be, "Why is the survival of our species a good thing?" Unless a higher Moral Lawgiver has made "survival" a good thing, we have no basis for justifying the morality.
I mean she probably just has basic empathy and isn’t basing life off of some “reward” she might receive. She doesn’t need a God in order to be a good person. Sad that y’all do. The fact that she wants to breath fairness and ethics into the world without the promise of more in an “afterlife” is more respectable than y’all needing gold and clouds for eternity in order to not kill
Animals act on survival of their species and they are not conscious of a higher moral law giver.
Susan L. Why? Why do they act on survival of their species? Unless something classified survival as “good”.
If you seriously need a God to tell you that murder is not good, there is something wrong with your moral compass. How many people will you kill if God says killing is now moral?
@@charliecrain1830 basic empathy? The life in the womb wants to ensure its survival I assure you..yet society is trying to make it okay to destroy that life. For the sake of selfish reasons or “feelings” it has zero chances of living a good successful life🤦🏽♂️
Following her reaction, I think it was so important that you followed her into the coffee shop after the camera went down and sat and spoke to her. You showed her that getting her to see the truth is overall more important than merely proving her wrong on camera. (Though you did a great job at both 😂) I believe passion and pursuit for the persons heart to see God should always be most obvious when presenting the truth. She will not only reflect on the truth you shared but she will remember the passion and heart of God in you to pursue her to it in love. (Regardless if she will define it as God in you, right now.) I believe a tremendous seed was sown that the Holy Spirit is watering. May God bless you and cover you as you continue to share the gospel. (Oh and, shout out to @powitskim with the fire visuals 💥)
Aminah S. Richards:
The word/Bible/the truth isn't for everyone or all nations/races! The Bible isn't an inclusive book as proven here: St. John ch, 10v27, St. John 15v16, Genesis ch,17v19, Amos ch 3v1-3, Joel, ch, 2v27 Acts ch5v29-31)!
Does your God has a name ?
Yeh, he could have bought her lunch and a smoothie, just for participating in the video. That would have been cool.
@@yyahrah-izionisrealelite6097 Yes, it is inclusive. Read John ch3v16, Romans ch10vs12-13, Titus ch2v11-12, 2 Peter ch3v9, 1 Corinthians ch15v22. There are many more scriptures. God the Father sent God the Son (Jesus/Yeshua) to die for the sins of the world and He rose from the grave and conquered death so that we could live eternally in heaven. If believe in Him, repent and turn away from sin, we will be saved. God The Holy Spirit was sent to us to help us live righteously. God wants all to come to repentance but it is free will and unfortunately some will choose not to. The invitation is open for you as well. (Also, God has many names. Alpha & Omega, Great I AM, Beginning & The End. The list goes on..)
@@aminahsrichards
Did you read the scriptures I cited, if so, where's the all inclusivity in them??
There's no John 3v16 that say God loves the whole world!
In St. John ch 3v1 before verse 16, the conversation is between two real Jews and in verse 14, also before verse 16, he only lifted the serpent unto the children of Israel! Had he died for the while world, would you be able to read, St. John 17v9 or James ch. 4v4 or John 18v20 or Mathew 1v21 or Mathew 15v24 or Joel ch 2v27??????
Romans 10v12-13? Romans ch9 v1-4 and beyond (which comes before verse 10) clearly shows what nation/race of people THE ADOPTION, THE GLORY, The COVENANT(S) (supported by Hebrews 8v8), The GIVING OF THE LAW(supported in Psalms 147v19-20) THE SERVICE OF GOD and THE PROMISES are all for according to the flesh(not spirit) who're ISRAELITES!
Titus 2v11-12? Here's Titus 1v3 which comes before 2v11-12: But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandments of God 'OUR' Savior! As I showed you above, in Psalms 147v19-20, the commandments were only given tp the Israelites! So therefore, the 'men' in verses 11 and 12, which come after verse 3, can only be pertaining to the Israelites.
2nd Peter 3v9? Simon Peter was/is an apostle of TMH and here was an instruction from Jesus himself to the apostles: Matthew ch, 1ov5-6: These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Who are the lost sheep? Mathew ch 2v6! And in 1st Peter ch, 2v9 TMH GOD set the Israelites above all nations! And you should really read and absorb 2nd Peter ch 3v2 too!
1st Corinthians ch, 15v22? Here's verse 15v3, (before verse 22): For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for OUR sins according to the scriptures. Only the nation/race of Israel can sin because that's the only nation that was given the laws! Sin is the transgression of the law as proven in 1st John, 3v4! Also, read 1st Corinthians 12v1-2(which comes before ch15v22) as more proof that those being targeted in Corinth were Israelites with the lifestyles of the natural gentiles/heathens, as many Negro Christians do here in Babylon and their other captivities (jurisdictions).
Again, the bible isn't an all inclusive book from Genesis to Revelation! What you're dispensing is all-inclusive plantation Christianity that you cannot support as I've proven above! Take note that I supported all that I wrote with scriptures!
At this point you should know that I believe in the Bible and its trueness, when it's rightly divided!
My(possessive) people/race/nation were created with more than an invitation!
In Jesus Christ death, the invitation became open for anyone in the world to be saved. God is no respecter of persons and He proves that in scripture over and over again. You can't disprove something that has already been proven. The truth wont change. Open the scriptures and ask God to reveal the truth to you. If you seek Him with your whole heart you will find Him.
I like this because it’s real. Sometimes these conversations are the intros to more research and changed hearts; if God willing.
I, too, used to be an agnostic- even have a video on it- and like her, my sentiments were not on solid ground. I delved into pseudo consciousness, metaphysics, science and the likes and yet it still pointed back to Nothingness because I had and those like me, had no basis for our thoughts or conclusions. She kept mentioning relativism but yet most of her argument was relative and societal and what's "normal" according to those who make up this world. Unfortunately for her and others like her, the world is ever changing and when it directly effects her, she will then break out her moral ruler and try to draw a line but it will be too late because she already allowed the boundaries of TRUTH to be invaded. I wish her unveiled eyes and love from Christ.
SingPray Luv"
Are you a Christian in the current? Is the BIBLE for everyone or all nations/races??
What's the video name
You have a lot of patience. A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still... She has her mind made up, but I hope her heart changes.
He's definitely a more patient and humble person than me.
Patience to really listen what this female has to say or patience not to try to convert her and fail miserably? :D
@@Aijaleena Patience with her patronising foolishness.. You clearly didn't notice she was the relativist in the debate ducking his question by creating the straw man that a guy who glaringly believes in objective truth is the relativist. You need to stop confusing style with substance and knowledge with wisdom.
@@KeniGid you dont need to be wise or better for her or anyone but yourself in this world, so I dont really get the idea of a true believer trying to convert people into faith. Believers get to heaven right, theres no requirements set for how many people you've got convinced into this or that "system" or religion that you claim to be the absolute right one.
Phaellos Religion is based on “works”. I follow Jesus Christ not religion. People just want to rebel against God because, they want to live their own way. The world just blinded people with the pleasures of this life. We live in a world with a bunch of narcissistic people. You can call this the matrix and if you want to go your own way, that’s on you. God opened my eyes to a lot of things and took me out this false reality. I use to only care and live for myself. I was spiritually blinded and I shook my fist at God in the past. As someone who nowfollows Christ , I’ll share my testimony with anyone I come across and if they don’t want to hear it, that’s up to them.
Preston, this was AWESOME! Could you please show the beginnings of how you approach people (if possible)? I think that would be helpful to those of us who witness to others. Also, could you do some videos where you preach the gospel to unbelievers. I think it would be effectual to show how once the gospel is given how it causes a God experience to happen in the heart. Then compare this with debating with one's mind. This could be such an awesome comparison. Change happens in the heart first (from my experience).
Lastly: It would also be great to see you do this with demonstration involved i.e. word of knowledge, prophetic, healing. Matthew 10:7 and other scripts show us that gospel in tandem with gifts is the most effective and kills ALL logic.Thank you again, Preston!! Love this
I was wondering how he approaches people as well. Because they are comfortable and have time.
I guess but I say other wise
I can’t convert anyone. Only the Holy Spirit can do that. In fact that’s his job. As far as how I approach people I just walk up and ask if they wanna talk
@@prestonperry3320 Yes of course the Holy Spirit works through us, as long as we're willing to be used. My apologies if that did not come through clearly, just wondering if we could see more on the gospel being preached itself. Thank you for replying.
@@soufsidereport6292 could you explain further? Guessing your disagreeing with using gifts and how it is more effectual when sharing the gospel, but Matthew 10:8, gospels and acts shows us that the gifts and gospel were always meant to be done in tandem. It is demonstration of the Holy Spirit through us, and the Holy Spirit moving in a person that converts souls. That is why many chapters are dedicated to the topic of gifts, not just for the equipping, but for preaching the gospel.
I see light in her. I look at her and I love her. She's already so patient and kind and good at articulating herself, imagine the good she could do-- the people she could save. I'm praying that she lets go of her pride and logic and surrenders to the love of Jesus. The Bible says that the Gospel is supposed to sound foolish, so that faith alone can be our link to our Father God.
fadargenforlife Just because she’s an agnostic doesn’t mean she’s prideful or a horrible person tho, every individual is bound to their beliefs and she can still help people not following any sort of religion, I’m an agnostic studying to become a doctor does my belief means I’ll fail on that? No.
Please don’t take it the wrong way but there’s over 7 billion people on this world and we’re bound to have different opinions, that doesn’t mean we have to argue, we just have to respect each other and let everyone believe in what they want to believe as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone.
In the end, you’re allowed to believe that everyone should convert to catholicism as long as no one forces that conversion, I was brought up by a christian mother so I know it’s Jesus’s wish for each and every one of us love our brothers and sisters and respect their beliefs.
Hope you’re having a great day❤️
Brunella you’re right! ❤️ I’m having a wonderful day, hope you are too!
fadargenforlife why would you want her to surrender her logic. Logic is one of the main factors in human progression such as determining means of survival, law and technology
@@nikolatesla8184 See its idiots like you I dont get, especially with the name Nikola tesla. We dont want her to lose her logic, we want her to free it. Idk why morons like you think believing in God means you throw logic and reasoning out the door.
fadargenforlife i see exactly what you see. She’s so strong and intelligent.
Found your channel yesterday, and I am so thankful! Excellent content.
Ken Thompson:
The Bible wasn't written by or to or for your kind/race! (Revelation ch 21v12, your race is not listed there!)
@@yyahrah-izionisrealelite6097 I assume you are a (Black) Hebrew Israelite. Praying that God sees fit to remove the scales from your eyes. There is neither Jew nor Greek in my world view, and its a shame you've bought into a terrible lie.
@@masomaker
It's interesting, yet not surprising, that you start off your response by displaying your innately racist nature! Have you ever seen a 'black' person? 'Black' means everything negative and 'white' means holy/pure unblemished, hence the reason why your kind/race came up with such labelling, which your kind/race is the total opposite of, which, Negroes know all too well! All of us aren't assimilated and mentally, psychologically and spiritually destroyed from slavery, the media and plantation Christianity (pale supremacy) (as was prophesized!) We're awoke, you natural, proven, pretensive and perpetual enemy!
Let there be no assumptions or private interpretation or LIES when you read the following scriptures verbatim for yourself: Matthew ch, 10v5-6, 1st Corinthians 12v1-3, James ch 1v1, Revelation ch 22v14 (only one nation/race of people were given the laws statues and commandments)
You or anyone of your kind( a horde of soulless beneficiaries of slavery (directly or indirectly and the maintainers of the advantageous system that came with slavery) can't pray for me BECAUSE we are different in every way and we don't have the same Messiah!
The plantation Christian doctrine that has destroyed and is still destroying Negros even as I write is soon over to your horror!
The Bible is a true book look at your race to verified!
Anyone reading this exchange will likely see how ironic it is for a so-called Hebrew Israelite (better?) to be pointing out my innate racism. You subscribe to a perversion of the Bible that is primarily underpinned by racism. You aren't 'woke,' but instead asleep, which is to say dead in your sin. You are sold out to a movement that inherently keeps you in the position of a victim rather than a victor in Christ Jesus. Still praying for you.
@@masomaker
What you don't know because the Bible wasn't by, for and to your race is that the Bible isn't all-inclusive!
You can't pray for me, we are different in every way and therefore, we don't have the same Messiah! Pray for the your kind in SA living without amenities and are complaining about reverse Apartheid!
Your penultimate sentence is a sentence of someone of the innately racist kind, who is heartless, soulless, a beneficiary of racism (directly or indirectly) and a maintainer of the advantageous systems that came from chattel slavery and plantation Christianity! Had I been a sold out or asleep, I would be a victim of your kind plantation Christianity and be encouraging my people/race to love the other nations (yours especially) who will never love them and think that's possible for you to even like a Negro!
After 400 years of slavery and with the current institutionalized racism and systems that has and are destroying Negroes, I have every wise reason to racist (for my own racist)
I'm not the racist like your kind with/like what they are doing to Negros as I write! I'm not going to hang anyone after church and have a picnic(like your does), nor set dogs upon your kind, or put them in separate bathrooms or make them ride in the back of buses, or make them live in projects or distribute guns and drugs in the communities of your kind, or distribute contaminated foods and water to your kind or give your kind birth control pills to cause infertility or make your kind fight to death and give the 'winner' a water melon or make your kind pick cotton and tobacco the whole day or rob your kind of theirs name culture/heritage, et.al.
As expected, you couldn't counter any of the scriptures that I cited with any scriptures! The plantation Christianity (pale to pink (not white) supremacy of your kind is expired!
Again, you and your kind are salvationless!
She used the phrase "Moral Relativism" to dodge some questions. Preston was arguing FOR Moral Absoluteness and she used her belief in relativism to try to dodge it. Great conversation and she's very intelligent and beautiful. Thank you for these convos Preston.
i think she confused the term. a slight of the tongue maybe . i however was impressed by how she articulated herself and how Preston was respectful throughout.
Moral absoluteness is not an evidence for God. Morality evolves with time. Humans basically observe actions that can preserve them, and maintain. These ideals are later passed on to later generations and solidified. It is the reason why we have less wars. Wars are threat to our survival, so we let them go.
@@ernestnketiah5447 You stated that "morality evolves with time." Certainly, this isn't true my fried. For example, murder (unjustly taking someone's life) has, is, and will always be wrong. Rape is wrong. Theft is wrong. Lying is wrong. Adultery is wrong. All of these behaviors are objectively wrong, no matter the era/generation/etc. You need a transcendent, unchanging, immutable source to ground morality and truth in. And that source is God.
You also claimed that "wars are a threat to our survival." From an atheistic/agnostic worldview, why is it important for humans to survive? If you are subscribing to moral relativism, then nothing is objectively right, wrong, good, or evil. For instance, say I steal from you and believe that that is good for me. You disagree. What is the standard to say who is in the right or who is wrong? This is precisely what Preston is trying to get this intelligent woman to understand. I hope this helps.
@@avdouglass3 You do not need God to uphold morality. Most of it is just human instinct really and ensuring survival is a natural instinct of any living thing including bacteria.
@@dollyrevenge98 Thank you for your response. I implore you to think critically and deeply on this. What if someone believes that murdering you is best for their survival? What if someone rapes you and says that that is best for their survival? How can you justifiably say that they are wrong? By your worldview and logic, you can't. By your own words, murder, rape, theft, etc. are all instinctual.
God IS the objective standard and source in which morality and truth is grounded in. I, too, struggled to understand this until God revealed Himself to me.
We don't naturally desire God and spiritual things. We suppress truth because we enjoy our sinful lifestyles. Logic clearly proves God's existence. But It is our evil hearts that reject Him.
1 Corinthians 3:19 You did your thing but never tell someone they’re smarter than you when you are on the side of God. In her case that went straight to her head.
Indigo Sky:
Know that in1st Corinthians ch, 12v2 that that scripture shows that the gentiles that Paul wrote to/was seeking out were all Israelites, who were the only nation salvation is for and you and your kind/race isn't of that nation! 1st Corinthians 10v1 further verifies the above!
This was a great video. You were so patient. She sounded so annoyed but I love how she engaged in the conversation. I honestly feel like this girls eyes will be opened. I pray that God touches her heart. All we can do is pray for her. What is so sad is that many people believe in so many things but they were never alive when those things took place but when it comes to if God exists, it turns into an argument. There are many books that are written that aren’t true but people still believe in it. A question that I would have asked would have been “Who wakes you in the morning?” Being alive is only by God’s grace. We don’t have to be alive. Someone is battling cancer. That could be anyone of us. Society does not wake me up. God does!
What happened after slaves read the bible?
They seeked their freedom and then kept it afyerward...hmmmm
Her objections are a smoke screen. The seed of rejection of Jesus was planted in her long ago. The knowledge she has obtained, is a significant part of her identity that she uses to protect herself from the reality that something in her is missing. "Fortunately", the questions being presented are starting to reveal the instability of her faulty foundation I pray that she welcomes Jesus into her heart and uses her God given abilities to show Jesus to others.
Janel Bilal Só first of all I hope you’re having a great day❤️
I was born from a christian mother and even though I’m an agnostic I still know that Jesus said for the christian to love their brothers and sisters no matter the ideology. There’s over 7 billion people on this earth so we’re bound to have contrasting beliefs and as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone that’s alright, just because someone is an atheist or agnostic doesn’t automatically mean they’re a horrible person, it’s like saying every muslim is a terrorist, it just doesn’t work that way, this is discrimination and against everything being preached in the bible.
I hope you respect her ideology and remember that conversion to catholicism has to happen willingly and not by catholics forcing they believe into someone.
Have a wonderful day🥰
Janel Bilal To me she’s racial ! What are you talking about kill your own people ? Are we not all GODs people ? Chinese, black, Spanish,white, whatever !
"The argument is circular", while also giving a completely circular argument. Foolishness...
How was she circular? He kept asking the same question she already answered lol
@@charliecrain1830 exactly
@@charliecrain1830 She never answered, about the basis her morality, where does it come from, we can't just say society, if we do we have to ask where does society get it from??
You should have asked her how does she decide what is is right or wrong when society says many different things. Like sure we know slavery is wrong now. But what about child marriages?… In some places they are wrong and in other places they are perfectly normal. And if society dictates what is right or wrong then what or who is controlling the society that is dictating what is right or wrong? Is the ppl?... and if so what ppl?
Doesn't the Bible condone slavery.
tapiwakay No, the Bible doesn't condone slavery. The kind of slavery that's in the Old Testament is a "servant" slavery, where they were doing it to pay off a debt. People sold themselves as slaves to pay off their debts, so that their masters could provide for them. However, God is against the kind of slavery that we know today, the kind that black people faced in America, the kind that is solely because of someone's skin color/nationality. When Israelites were forcibly enslaved by Egyptians for their nationality, God destroyed the Egyptians and fought for the escape of the Israelites
What she is complying as “Truth” is actually being stated as “Fact” within her argument. Ultimately, she’s saying that the subjective truth is the objective truth. But this is not the definition of truth. And that’s why she stated you were going in circles but in reality, she was. 🤔
Fact: something said to be true or supposed to have happened
True: being in accordance with the actual state or conditions; reality
I have friends outside the faith and we have conversations like this. Thoroughly enjoy your vids, man!
subjective truth is the objective truth as people feel different things are right and wrong. So the objective truth is that people's moral composes are subjective.
You have been absolutely sent to do this. Your patience is a reflection of God’s long suffering with us in our ignorance. I’ve watched about 2 or 3 videos of yours & I literally wanna scream at some of these ppl 😂😂😂. Not funny but it is. When I evangelize , the irritation level with some ppl that are “educated “ is wheeeeeeewwww. I have to exit the convo . All your side commentary throughout the video is usually what I say to them. Holy Spirit has shown me that I’m really trying to convert them & that’s absolutely never the right thing to do. Rather plant the seed. ALL THAT TO SAY. God bless you & your amazing wife!!! 😂
I have Cristinan friends and they know l am an agnostic and we get along^^ l don't think forcing belives into itch other is good, l respekt there belives and they respect mine^^
And l realy like to talk to people about there belives Both to athist that belive in evolution and religus people and so on.👍
And sorry for The typos😅
I hope you will all have a good day nomater what you belive in💖
One thing I have to admit that the ability to keep a calm tone, respond with patience and grace no matter what you hear back is SO important! When you see emotions reveal it speaks for itself!
She’s creating the circle and doesn’t realize it.
You are absolutely correct , what’s so illogical is that she knows what she is doing, and is living only by her own standards.
That is amazing! She has been trained to say she hates moral relativism, but that is exactly what she believes. You keep up the good work :-)
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
It’s frustrating, she argues for relativism the whole time, and then tries to use the term as a negative descriptor for his argument. She has a very flawed understanding of philosophy. She uses this flawed understanding to justify her beliefs in a way that is very similar to God of the gaps.
prove it
Pamela Delarosa
plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-relativism/
Cultural relativism ultimately boils down to “Culture (Y) deems (X) is immoral therefore (X) is immoral”
I am not completely sure what you would like me to “prove”, but I would be happy to expound upon any aspect of my assertion.
That Proves it Im Agnostic..No Joke... You need to prove to me a GOD exists and an old book doesn’t do it for me..
I would encourage you to open up your eyes to everyday life! How everything works around you, how everything works together, even how things happen against each other! Just watch life, people watch, nature watch not with a biased view but with a clear conscience! Go to a lake, beach, mall, carnival. What you will see if you really want to open up your understanding is that there is NO WAY pure coincidence or law is keeping things in this type of order. When you just watch nature, slow down your thoughts and really be present in the moment I think you will FEEL how there is something greater! Once you feel it then you will more willing to truly opening up to it. There is a reason why that “old book” is still so relevant to this day! It’s survived natural disasters, world wars, plages, as many things that have gone extinct, it still stands! Its not above proving anything to you, you have to open up to it!
Her claim that you are arguing 'moral relativism' is just wrong. In fact, you are arguing the OPPOSITE. Moral relativism is the idea that there is no universal or absolute set of moral principles. (Not my definition, pasted from a web article)
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Exactly. And that concerns me greatly. She started out like a sincerely misguided person but started projecting her actions on Preston. I sincerely hope she wasn't doing that on purpose, as part of her "that's where good debating skills comes in" mantra because that's a very dangerous place to be...
i think she confused the term, a slight of the tongue maybe . i however was impressed by how she articulated herself and how Preston was respectful throughout.
Have you considered the "truths" from the point of view of other religions?
So many atheists believe in ghost and demon possessions but not angels and God
comedy gaming no we don’t lol
Whataya talkin’ about?
Complex Ez can’t speak for all but for me life is a cool experience.
Oximoronic if so.
You can't force Christianity on someone by trying to trap them up with different scenarios if it so good you don't have to force it on no one#christiancrusades
I feel like your explanation of agnostics was off
Ask an atheist did logic exist before man and watch their absurdity crumble. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
Proverbs 9:2 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight.
This is why we need holy spirit to do the evangelizing (don't know if that's what he was doing or intending), she needs an encounter with God....
Preston, you missed her at 2:04. She gives you the answer when she says she believes in "some sort of spiritual being", but not the "sort of God" described in Christianity. At this point, "never mind objective truth, atheism, morality, etc". Those are all good topics for another day, but she has given you the door, and the question you really should have asked was "Why do you believe in some sort of spiritual being as opposed to naturalism?". Thats the first thing you really need to understand, and then you would need to understand "what is it about Christianity that makes her think its a myth, as opposed to the spiritual being she believes in", etc. Her answers to those questions is what should have driven the "direction" of the rest of the discussion
think3r agreed
I wonder if there’s any agnostics here. I’m one of them 🕺💃
People that don’t want to believe in God love to sound so smart but the Bible calls them fools.
i prefer to be a fool within bible than a fool like you
Pray for Preston people. For Grace, wisdom, and boldness if he keeps talking to more people. This conversation is less about arguing to prove a point, but to allow those watching understand where other people’s beliefs come from. The woman in this video defended her belief very well which means she knows what she chooses to believe in.
Morals come from the knowledge of God? But yet we dont know there is a God?
Our morals come from a certain part of our brain that makes us have empathy. Some people have more empathy than others. People had to fight hard for what was ethically wrong in this world. Empathy is where morals come from.
The reason im not a Christian is because of the morals in the Bible. So not sure how you can say morals are from God, when God was fine with slaves, and killing children and animals, and very sexist. There is many immoral things in the Bible that i now am not sure i even believe there is a god anymore.
So i strongly disagree that morals are from the knowledge of God.
The sound of that skateboard on concrete is beautiful
In her claiming to be wise she shows her foolishness.
Ryan K Myles lol
I'm not even her and that Scripture pierced my soul lol.
Romans 1:22
Why do you say That? She has got a level head! And is not bending a knee to anyone! She is sovereign,free! So stop being a sheep because you will be lead to the slaughter......
@@scottlouissmith2382 There are such things as self righteousness and pride. And every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord.
24:20: She knows all about logic because she wrote a 12 page paper?
She's intelligent, but it doesn't make you a philosophy expert.
I think one of the phrases I didn't hear that it sounded like you were looking for was "intrinsic value" this is what humans moral compass reveals. It probably lands better than 'all humans know they are made in the image of God.' I think that the fact we share a moral compass points to intrinsic value. If we can agree that humans have intrinsic value, we can then suggest where it came from: being made in the image of God, who sees value and objective goodness in the essence of His creation. If we don't follow this trail, however, it sounds as though you're jumping to conclusions (i.e. you agree this thing is wrong therefore you were made in the image of God).
You showed great patience bro. Very encouraging to watch. Praise God!
That was a tough one bro, but by God's grace you held it down . Let's pray the Holy Spirit convicts her of her sin and show's her that her world view crumbles and she just wants to be her own god. Yo @Preston would you be willing to go witnessing with us downtown Columbus Ga on a Friday night you bout hr and some change away. I would love for you to teach a class on Apologetics at our church on a Sunday evening. I'll take care of your expenses
I want to be my own goddess not god. Im a girl please and thank you
Pamela Delarosa have you ever read the Bible? I’m asking respectfully. Lie have you ever given God a chance? 🤔
@@jawandalee3344 YUP! I grew up Spanish Catholic YIKESSSSS
@@pameladelarosa3059 No, have you ever given God a chance for yourself? Not based off of what you grew up being taught. Sometimes unfortunately, we portray God to others through our own foggy lenses and good people get hurt and are turned away, not by God Himself, but by other people. But to seek Him(truthfully) for yourself is something totally different.
@@pameladelarosa3059 And you are so beautiful btw 😊
Sweet. I like her personality. Good discussion and I love that you continued off camera. That’s when the guards go down and the heart becomes exposed. 👏🏾❤️
She’s cute
You: "Was the holcaust wrong?"
Her: "Of course it was."
You: "What's wrong with murder?"
Her: "It doesn't insure the survival of things we hold valuable."
Does she not understand that's the very reason why Hitler did those atrocious things?
so many of these comments praying for this person's safety and praying for her to become religious, hot damn people maybe leave them alone? people can have their own beliefs and opinions
She is not an agnostic. She is a spiritual atheist (yes, those exist and are plenty, and are actually pretty cool people). I'm an agnostic and I have spiritual atheist friends
thanks for defining me, been having a whole identity crisis for the past five years LOL
All that education and she sounds confusing. I didn’t follow. I’m glad you all came to the conclusion that she didn’t know.
Brother you interrupt too much and you need a more rounded view of meta ethics. Im trying to say this out of love dude it was going nowhere which would’ve been improved if you understand her worldview better
You dont need the biblical God for a moral standard. Question where that book came from.
I do not believe in god. But I do like your videos because you have these discussions very respectfully despite disrespect sometimes from the person in which you’re speaking with, and I respect you for that.
She is very intelligent but I hope she sees the light and Surrender Her life to the Lord before it's too late.
She is definitely not smart. God has already rejected her.
This is very serious folks....she has spoken out against the Holy Ghost for which there is no forgiveness not in this world nor in the world to come. Matthew 12:23
She is also a liar 1 John 2:22 kjv
annie12264 It really shows small minded you are judging her on her beliefs I’m also agnostic. I thought the Christian way of thinking is to treat people how you want to be treated. I could never stand for a religion that tells me if I see things different from someone else I’m going to hell. There is 8 billion people in the world which means not everyone will think the same. Christians can be so cruel to people who don’t think like them it’s so wrong. I guess I’m not going to heaven because the god you think is true made me to think different but live a small minded life in a big world that’s your choice.
Your not getting my opinion nor my beliefs in my comment. Your getting the words from scripture. God’s truth. Amen. All the glory goes to God.
Slavery is endorsed in the Bible by god. Is it moral?
Slavery in biblical times took place in place of murdering annihilating a people during war. Chattel slavery- European slavery did not exist in biblical times.
Shi Creates i call bullshit on that. There are specific instructions in the bible on where to buy your slaves and how you can pass them on to your children as property. Your apology doesnt make anything sound more moral.
@@freebird2415 before I can address anything else...what apology are you speaking of?
Shi Creates i should have used the word apologetics.
Preston, I love what you're doing but I think you were not prepared and, unfortunately, she dominated you (completely). You have the right concepts, but I think you have to learn how to present them efficiently. Really take time to study apologists like Ravi (i'm sure you're already aware of him), and take time to "sharpen your axe". Its not just about the "truths" themselves, but there are certain principles you have to use to effectively get those truths across.
I get what you're saying, but I think that she was more polished and so she could be interpreted as being more persuasive. I was with you... until about the 20 min mark. She was asserting that he had them in a circle of moral relativism, but it was just that assertion that circled them round again. At this point, he spells out exactly where they differ. Listen to his reply. Way to go. She didn't listen, but he hung in there.
This makes me sad. How people can live in such a tangled web, idk. Great video Preston.
The book of Judges speaks of this: in the days when Israel had no King...they did what was right in their own eyes!
@@calilsaadiq1076 yes, very true. This might sound super stupid, LOL but it just seems so different reading it versus seeing it in front of your own eyes
Psalm 14:1 The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. Psalm 14:4 Do all these evildoers know nothing? ❤️🙏🏾😇😔 Hell is waiting for her. I will pray for her in Jesus name. Amen.🙏🏾❤️😇
LOL
@@pameladelarosa3059 1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son.
I am praying for your soul from Hell and eternal damnation in the lake of fire Ma'am or Sir. In Jesus name. May the grace of the most high God bless your mind. Amen
1jesusismylord *Hell is waiting for her.*
Lmao....just stfu mosquito head.
A wise man said " the biggest tragedy in history happened when religion hijacked morality "
You got it backwards. God did not make humans. Humans made God
Is he really arguing that a person is incapable of having morals or personal values with the absence of god? If so, I strongly disagree.
No. He’s saying you DO have morals. But you have no basis for morality if you are an atheist for example.
Because Christianity does not have a monopoly on the concept of God, the point then becomes whether or not the Bible is true. When the Bible is proven the be false, your whole argument is crushed. I can tell that you haven't actually studied the Bible very much. I applaud her for holding her ground.
Amazing patience and listening. James 1:19 “My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry”. Well done brother I pray that planted a seed in her heart. Love your work. Bless!
She is so smart
She answers in circles.
She wanted to be right so badly
She wasn't necessary right, but neither was he. All of us are entitled to our options and beliefs. That should be respected.
@@attackonpokemon942 Why is he wrong? He's speaking truth and anyone who denies that doesn't have any understanding. Many people are serious morosophs.
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To you, this is truth. To me, it might be truth, it might not be, and to an atheist, it is not truth. So who is right and who is wrong in the end?
You might say "ofcourse I am right, I know this and that". The atheist will say "No, this religious idiot is wrong, I am right, because this and that". I will just say "I don't know who is right and who is wrong, and if there even is such thing, as right and wrong. Who decides what's ultimately right and whats ultimately wrong"
@@FoxyBoxery God does, he's the ultimate standard otherwise everything someone does they would think they are right no matter how wicked. To look at the ski a d creation all around and not know an intelligent being (God) created it is a matter of the heart not intellect. Everything has a beginning, a cause, even the big bang, and since it's scientifically impossible for everything to come from nothing then it should be clear that we didn't just come to be but were created. If the sun was a little bit too far from the earth we would all freeze to death, if the sun were a little bit too close to the earth we would scorch to death. The thing is science is inside of time space and matter and in order to create that, there had to be an outside force. The bible says God' created the heavens and earth and his spirit hovered over the face of the deep. It says he hung the earth on nothing. If I were you my friend I would humble myself, ask God himself through Jesus Christ and he is faithful to reveal himself to you. The Word says ask and you shall receive. Forget about man, ask God.. if you truly want truth.
@@warriorandchildofgod2425
Again, that's your subjective truth
She said she is a philosophy major but makes the obvious fallacy that multiple subjective truth is the one truth. That is absolutely false and fallacious. Also, morality is number measured by number. I wish I will have discussion with this beautiful sister. I am a philosophy major too and currently doing my graduate studies in Theology. A lot of things she said are valid but not truth.
She measures truth by societal consensus. Now she claims that the previous society was wrong on slavery, now she claims same society in our own time is right on slavery. The previous is a proof that societal consensus is not the absolute standard for truth.
Also, it is not possible to have morals without having God. But it is possible to know morals without knowing God. One can know about a chair without acknowledging the carpenter. We have done it over the years, we have known the universe without believing in God. To have know morality is different from knowing or acknowledging the author of morality. And to not know the author does not mean we can't be moral. But morality cannot be sustained without knowledge of the author because it will be what man says it is and it can be affected by emotion at anytime.
@godof79 That rather explains your presumption and bias mind since you cannot understand the fact of the balance in my reasoning being in both field. And so pathetic to think theology is a blind faith. Moreover, you still haven't made any statement with regards to my followed up statement. Maybe you have nothing to say and that is why you lunched the fallacy of argumentum ad hominem.
Misunderstanding agnosticism straight off the batt
Jesus Christ will pursue her and purify her heart into His love & kingdom!! Thank you Lord, she won’t be able to deny you. 💖
Oh, well I’m sorry that you feel that way about me. I figured that if He did it for me and others that I’ve prayed for incessantly who came to me at later times telling me about their testimonies that He would do it for her.
Do not judge others or you will be judged. The Book of Matthew (that’s a very nice defensive scripture)
I never realized the amount of confusion in ideals outside of Christ. In Christ, there is so much peace when discussing. You can literally feel the spirit of confusion upon her. Whew, I pray she comes to know God because of this.
I wouldn't say that I'm guessing she's very opinionated
Carleejanae:
The Bible isn't for everyone or all nations!
@DJ *So all the thousands of denominations isn't a form of confusion..A history book with no dates is not confusion?*
Ouch!..I'd say, that is a slam-dunk.
That is absolutely correct.
Due to the proliferation of hundreds of bible-based churches whom they all perceive same scriptures differently has led to the NT to be re-written about or over 70 times! ...and counting.
The subject of slavery came up. I personal thinks slavery is wrong at any time. I also think that the slavery in the bible (the God approved of in the old testament) was wrong. Christian's say that this slavery was different. I am not sold on this idea that the slavery then was different. I am not talking about indentured servitude, where Israelites could sale themselves and be released in after 6 year. I am talking about slavery. The bible slavery and the Transatlantic slavery have similarities. In both cases you could beat slaves. A loving God should never give one person the right to beat another person.
He should call into the atheist experience.
1 Corinthians 3:19 - "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. It is written in the Scriptures, 'He catches those who are wise in their own clever traps'" "Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise"
Proverbs 18:2
"A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion"
Two minutes in, I’m already impatient and I’m not even engaging with her. Lord give me patience
Aurora D. Right?
I'm agnostic, why i say so is because everyone is confused almost all religions are saying that their "God" is the one who"ll take them to heaven, i beleive there might be a God or there might be Gods but i dont believe in religious doctrines
She absolutely killed this!
I agree. She isn’t threatened by his perception that she somehow wrong.
She's very intelligent and can rebuttal just about anything. With that said, she was caught with contradictions she danced around instead of acknowledging the point he was making.
And you need to take a philosophy class
Dont really like this guy. He's not listening to her to understand her point he just wants to be right.
She had a level of arrogance that no matter what Preston said she would not honestly answer the question. People like this are not capable of having any discussion of reason because they dodge the truth but keep having all these circular arguments that take you back to ground zero.
She may be very beautiful.. but she’s very confusing with her own wisdom knowing you must depart from it.
If the Christian God is the one who has given us objective and absolute morality, then he definitely did a terrible job at trying to let us know. Because apparently he’s written a bunch of religious texts that contradict either and are leaving us to pick and choose things based on our own moral standards.
She's double-minded.
She's basically saying that she thinks something is wrong if she doesn't want it done to her (murder, rape, stealing). She makes a lot of sense. I don't understand how he even puts God into the morality equation. Then again the implementation of Godinto our social belief system is a way to reinforce man-made laws. "Who said we should not kill? God said that's who!!!" Secondly they talking about who says slavery is wrong.this brother needs to realize that the Bible was the principal justification for black slavery on the premise that blacks are the descendants of Ham (Genesis 9:25-27).
Preston I so love how you handled this discussion and what you’re doing with this channel. It’s kinda sad how her perspective had no definitive truth . The discussion of morality is one of the biggest holes in atheism. And no one has provided a logical answer for it yet.
Why would a person who doesn't believe in god...BELIEVE IN GOD.
The person that has had an encounter with GOD needs to intercede for the lost..if they really believe in this God they need go to him for the " lost"
She isnt wrong...she speaking from her perspective
My name is Breshun Betts can't wait till he post me and my wife I'm agnostic
Breshun Betts nice to see you supporting this!
@@cliffdaddynice7535 yes I admire his courage and mission. I once was a Christian but I can no longer be a sheep. But I want to to support this black brother. He has potetional to be a leader. He is a true Christian and not a hypocrite like most 😏 Christians.
I hope we continue to debate I actually would like to do a follow up video and further challenge his religion and ideals.
In the video I remained quiet and let my wife and other brother debate there knowledge .i studied him I am now prepared and ready
Breshun Betts o so that was your wife? Nice of her to volunteer. And just the overall authenticity was cool on both sides. Some people just love to debate, for the sake of debating just to be “right”, sometimes it’s so much more. So if your debating just make sure it’s not a pride thing but because of strong conviction and for what’s right! Grace to you, my G. I’ll look forward to hearing you chat it up with this brotha!
@@cliffdaddynice7535 I look forward to the debate. I would like challenge his belief and see who has more knowledge and who is more convincing. I would like everyone to tune in after the first video surface. Hopefully he will follow up and let's engage in philosophical debate. Hopefully we can get a different aspect . Because I'm convinced Christianity won't be around long in the future. Much respect though perry
@@soufsidereport6292 My dude they been saying for the past 1000 years christianity wouldn't be around. it aint going no where. just look at china, Africa, and south america.