Fun fact: In PLAAF (People's Liberation Army Air Force), the classification "J" (歼/殲) stands for "Fighters", and "H" (轰/轟) stands for "Bombers". So this special plane right here, labeled "JH", is a blend of a fighter and a bomber. However, there is classification for "Attackers" too, which is "Q" (强/強), as we can see from planes like Q-5A, Q-5L. Therefore it's very interesting that they decided to use "JH" for this plane, but not a old fashioned "Q".
@@tieroneoperator635 USAF fighters do this too, F-16, F-15 Strike Eagle, F-35 they are multirole fighters yet they don’t use the “A” designation like some navy fighters such as F-18 which uses F/A designation
You dont have to dogfight to takeout enemy aircraft with amraam, although it is definitely a help in case you do need it, f15e probably will most likely be a 3rd party rat or sniper lol@@Lexus-fo3ey
I love how you have become the arbiter of knowledge when it comes to literally any and every plane in this game. Love to see it and the recognition you've gotten as such.
I already have it almost spaded. And I gotta say, for an 11.3, it's my new favorite jet. I've done everything but the tomcat, and it's one of the only planes that can dogfight in a full up tier (30min of fuel). I definitely recommend it to anyone doing China
God this is some really good footage, plane looks sick and the fact its not your average shit brick is even better. Every now and then the snail does give us something good.
@@kingghidorah8106as far as I’ve heard from pilots, no it isn’t. It doesn’t turn as well as fly-by-wire jets like Su-27, but it handles crisp, responsible and precise, so much so that pilots actually scored higher during ground attack competitions in J-7A than in Su-34.
@@thomaszhang3101 I dislike when people try to discredit or shit talk Russian or Chinese tech. It feels like one: people trying to create a sense of security thinking that the opposing nations are incompetent, and two: to make their own nation seem more competent. Truths that nations like Russia or China are likely competent to an extent and that western coverage botches explaining what they are doing or what they can do. Regardless of if they actually are competent or not, treat your enemy with respect and believe they are better than they might actually be. That line of thought caused the U.S to become the worlds most (debatably) powerful nations militarily in the world. If you actually try in a game where your enemy aren’t, you’ll win.
JH-7 has what I describe as MiG-23 syndrome, in that it will point the nose absolutely wherever you want it to, but it'll still continue going exactly in the direction it was going before
lol, the spey egine is the main feature of this jet from the start. That was the early period of China and western countries' honey month, and for the first time we can import some nice western engine, and we decided to design a brand new jet using this new engine, and there you go, we got the JH-7.
Some knowledge of the JH-7. This JH-7 project was originally started at 1978, and it was not designed to be a successor of the Q-5. It was designed for navy for the start. Back in late 70s', we had several naval fights with Vietnam on China south sea, and we found that we don't have proper Air support jets that can traval that far, So we decided to design a jet attacker with that have long range, decent speed and maneuverbility to breakthrough and can carry good anti ship weapons. Not long after the project was started, our relationship with the western world changed dramaticly, and we can get quite a lot of devices and technologies from the western world, including the spey engine, So that we decided to use spey engine for this jet. But we don't have that much of jet designing and producing experience Back in those days, so it took us a much longer then we expected time to finish it. It finally equipted the navy at 1994, but due to some design problem, It crashed quite a lot at the beginning(it killed 6 pilots in total during the testings). Even thought it's not reliable, but we still need it, because it's the only way to counter the American's carriers around China back in those days. The design company Keep adjust and improve their design and made the JH-7A to overcome the ealier problems, and finally became the core of our naval aviation for near a decade. So don't wonder why it don't have raidar missile or tv guided any ground missile(actually it has Russian made KH-29, But gaijin didn't apply them), cause it's designed for anti ship, just like the German naval tornado.
The part about JH-7A doesn't have air to ground missile simply isn't true, as it's one of the first Chinese aircrafts to actually have the capability to use them, KD-88 for example! The true naval 'anti-ship missle carrier' is the JH-7 base model, only having non-guided munitions and anti-ship missiles.
Why? PL9 isn't even used extensively as it's mainly aimed for export. Early production J-10 would be using pl8/pl11, which is why ppl hoped it'd come for a long time. But then the J-10A uses pl8/12, so unless gaijin is ready with ARH missiles...
Do you think you could “revisit” the F3H Demon? I know it’s pain, but you do cover painful planes pretty often, and you haven’t covered the Demon in a long time.
it's so bad right now, it wasn't good then but it's absolutely awful now. it's basically a flying target in everything but a full downtier, which isn't exactly common at 9.7
Have you tried lowering the fuel load on the MiG-29SMT and trying again? it seems to turn like the older MiG-29 if you lower the fuel load to 30 minutes, which is the same as the old MiG-29, then, you can bring a drop tank to make up the difference.
Hey DEFYN, I wasn't sure if it's just me but while testing with the WTRTI having individual throttle controls seemed to nerf the engine power for some reason? I was wondering if anyone else who tried it could testify?
Just a rule of thumb. If missile in the air then stop afterburning. Obviously it doesn't take a single second to cool down the engine but it'll get rid of the literal plume of fire
Can you use the F9F-5 dash and actually kill something? I regularly get 9.0-9.3 games and as soon as they see me they b-line to me with cos im an easy target. I wanna see a good player use it.
This thing seems like more streamlined and sleeker version tornado. Tho I always disliked Chinese techtree being primarily a tanker and china has mostly a compilation of other nation's vehicles with not much originality, I must admit they have several pretty cool and unique aircraft.
It's my impression or the P-47 M turns better than the Bf-109 K4? I did kinda got lucky yesterday when I was in a 1v1 with a P-47 M in the K4 but I think I might had messed up.
K4 better sustained and at low speed, P-47 probably better at high speed. K4 also has better power/weight below say 5-6km so the K4 should handily win the dogfight That being said I'm not a massive thunderbolt fan so I might be biased since I am a 109 enjoyer
@@sparkling925I'm asking because I'm not used to fight the P-47 M in the K4, only in hyper maneuverable planes like the G.56 or the Yak-3U that can basically 1 or 2 turn him and I know that the P-47 M turns decently well for a P-47.
@@pedromedeiros4955 The 109K will complete a 360 degree turn on the deck starting at 550kmh in 13.3 seconds. The P-47M does it in 13.7 seconds. The 109K turns slightly better.
sadly gaijin give us the fake PL-8,indeed it shoot PL-8B in reality,PL-8B anti hot ability is better than AIM9L,but in game PL8 is a shit compared with AIM9L.And this plane can hang with a lot of different AGMs,such as KD-88,KH-29T,and even some Anti ship missiles like YJ-83.sadly gaijin all dont give to it.And it can also use some radar guide missiles,sadly gaijin all dont add to it.
r73s are super flare horny now after the update, forget flares yesterday I launched a missile at an f16 2 seconds later the f16 launches a missile and my flare horny r73 just went for the f16s missile
That's probably because China wasn't the first to design a 3rd or 4th gen jet fighter. Hence they had time to get inspiration from somewhere else. And yes, they did copy the MiGs and the Su-27, but they improved on those designs as well😅
When your primary concern is suppressing internal rebellions, not fending off foes, upgrades to your 1950s kit seems sufficient. Then they saw what happened to all the T-55 clones they had sold Iraq and realized they needed to upgrade in a hurry. Japan went through a similar culture shock in the late 1800s when the USN show up at their isolationist coast and ordered them to sign a trade deal at cannon-point
Rip Speed is 1331, forgot to specify
hit the griddy
he forgor 💀
hit the griddy
Hit the griddy
They should increase it by 6.
Fun fact: In PLAAF (People's Liberation Army Air Force), the classification "J" (歼/殲) stands for "Fighters", and "H" (轰/轟) stands for "Bombers". So this special plane right here, labeled "JH", is a blend of a fighter and a bomber. However, there is classification for "Attackers" too, which is "Q" (强/強), as we can see from planes like Q-5A, Q-5L. Therefore it's very interesting that they decided to use "JH" for this plane, but not a old fashioned "Q".
Even more interesting if we look at J-16 which is multirole fighter.
@@tieroneoperator635 USAF fighters do this too, F-16, F-15 Strike Eagle, F-35 they are multirole fighters yet they don’t use the “A” designation like some navy fighters such as F-18 which uses F/A designation
@@Andrews_Sandy the strike eagle isnt really multirole sure it can take amraams but it cant dogfight well
You dont have to dogfight to takeout enemy aircraft with amraam, although it is definitely a help in case you do need it, f15e probably will most likely be a 3rd party rat or sniper lol@@Lexus-fo3ey
Defyn please hit the griddy
I love how you have become the arbiter of knowledge when it comes to literally any and every plane in this game. Love to see it and the recognition you've gotten as such.
I already have it almost spaded. And I gotta say, for an 11.3, it's my new favorite jet. I've done everything but the tomcat, and it's one of the only planes that can dogfight in a full up tier (30min of fuel). I definitely recommend it to anyone doing China
Damn that means I gotta start the q5 line 😢
@@thatguynk8044 Yeah but I wouldn't fly any of them, maybe except the A, for the flares
The 84G and both Q-5s are all very good planes
Fuck, Man, this shit is 12.3 now...
@@ZigaZagu lmao yeah, it's a shame. 12.0 would've been a better pick, but it'll have to suffer with the up-tiers for now
God this is some really good footage, plane looks sick and the fact its not your average shit brick is even better. Every now and then the snail does give us something good.
funnily enough it was a shitbrick in real life, +1000 social credit
@@kingghidorah8106 Nice Westerner coping. Obviously everything Russia and China make terrible 🤡
@@kingghidorah8106as far as I’ve heard from pilots, no it isn’t.
It doesn’t turn as well as fly-by-wire jets like Su-27, but it handles crisp, responsible and precise, so much so that pilots actually scored higher during ground attack competitions in J-7A than in Su-34.
@@kingghidorah8106"yeah for real trust me dude!"
@@thomaszhang3101 I dislike when people try to discredit or shit talk Russian or Chinese tech.
It feels like one: people trying to create a sense of security thinking that the opposing nations are incompetent, and two: to make their own nation seem more competent.
Truths that nations like Russia or China are likely competent to an extent and that western coverage botches explaining what they are doing or what they can do. Regardless of if they actually are competent or not, treat your enemy with respect and believe they are better than they might actually be. That line of thought caused the U.S to become the worlds most (debatably) powerful nations militarily in the world. If you actually try in a game where your enemy aren’t, you’ll win.
Day 11 of asking DEFYN TO hit the griddy.
Booyah!
100k special
HIT DWA GWIDDY
He should do it for a 100k subscriber special or something
I’m joining this petition
Gotta say how good that map looks at 15mins, gorgeous combination of clouds, sunlight and combat.
The flares seem to work on cats too, my cat had a blast while trying to catch them on my monitor.
JH-7 has what I describe as MiG-23 syndrome, in that it will point the nose absolutely wherever you want it to, but it'll still continue going exactly in the direction it was going before
T-2 syndrome as well
basically good nose authority, but you're so fat and heavy that it takes a bit of convincing for inertia to agree with your elevator deflection angle
I call that delta wing syndrome. Try test flying a J35 lol
@@reinbeers5322 facts! T2 can do some really weird stuff. it is the king of dodging gunfire
You can just say it has stupidly high aoa
Finally I can enjoy Spey engines without playing something british
lol, the spey egine is the main feature of this jet from the start. That was the early period of China and western countries' honey month, and for the first time we can import some nice western engine, and we decided to design a brand new jet using this new engine, and there you go, we got the JH-7.
@@exci-ted273 are you Chinese? Does your hair stick out like a pom pom?
The JH-7A looks like a bigger T-2 and it sounds like it performs like one too.
Rumors of an early production prem variant giving me Lord Shen (Kung Fu Panda 2) vibes. Depending on camo I might actually take a look at China air
Most interesting jet release on the last expansion.
This boy is MASSIVE.
Yeah, I'm surprised few people are mentioning this, but the JH-7A is actually enormous
can you try the A 36? its a prop at 3.0, with 10x 50 cals, air spawn, and decent turn rate
airbrake mustang ❤
I wish it was twelve lol. 10 is good though.
Some knowledge of the JH-7.
This JH-7 project was originally started at 1978, and it was not designed to be a successor of the Q-5. It was designed for navy for the start. Back in late 70s', we had several naval fights with Vietnam on China south sea, and we found that we don't have proper Air support jets that can traval that far, So we decided to design a jet attacker with that have long range, decent speed and maneuverbility to breakthrough and can carry good anti ship weapons. Not long after the project was started, our relationship with the western world changed dramaticly, and we can get quite a lot of devices and technologies from the western world, including the spey engine, So that we decided to use spey engine for this jet. But we don't have that much of jet designing and producing experience Back in those days, so it took us a much longer then we expected time to finish it. It finally equipted the navy at 1994, but due to some design problem, It crashed quite a lot at the beginning(it killed 6 pilots in total during the testings). Even thought it's not reliable, but we still need it, because it's the only way to counter the American's carriers around China back in those days. The design company Keep adjust and improve their design and made the JH-7A to overcome the ealier problems, and finally became the core of our naval aviation for near a decade. So don't wonder why it don't have raidar missile or tv guided any ground missile(actually it has Russian made KH-29, But gaijin didn't apply them), cause it's designed for anti ship, just like the German naval tornado.
The part about JH-7A doesn't have air to ground missile simply isn't true, as it's one of the first Chinese aircrafts to actually have the capability to use them, KD-88 for example! The true naval 'anti-ship missle carrier' is the JH-7 base model, only having non-guided munitions and anti-ship missiles.
@@user-ku6bv4ni2f You are right. But KD-88 is just too op in this game considering its over 100km range.
3:05 "Kept overcompensating just like I do in real life" xDDDD
I always thought the JH-7 looked like a giant japanese T2
Just paused at the start and the only thing i heard was: "and this thing is clasified", and in a way i wasn't surprised...
bro we need defyn to hit 100k before the end of the year. he deserves it xD
Is it just me that finished his sentences when he sais: 'And i think to myself...' with 'what a woooonderful woooorld' ? ^^
J10 in December I pray, pl9 is in files
Yessirrrr
Why? PL9 isn't even used extensively as it's mainly aimed for export. Early production J-10 would be using pl8/pl11, which is why ppl hoped it'd come for a long time. But then the J-10A uses pl8/12, so unless gaijin is ready with ARH missiles...
@@user-ku6bv4ni2fj10a does use pl9
Hey defyn great content,im always happy to see you’re upload’s!
The completionist stuff is a nice addition, I never thought you’d do it. (strikemaster next?)
Do you think you could “revisit” the F3H Demon? I know it’s pain, but you do cover painful planes pretty often, and you haven’t covered the Demon in a long time.
it's so bad right now, it wasn't good then but it's absolutely awful now. it's basically a flying target in everything but a full downtier, which isn't exactly common at 9.7
F3H is scimitar/104/mig19 food right now, its a bit of too much of a struggle
this plane looks like a Jaguar just back from grrandma's house in the weekend：）
Yet again the old man doesn’t disappoint
Anyone know why you can only put PL-8s on two of the four missile pylons?
balance probably, gaijin thinking 4 python 3s at 11.3 would be a bit much considering how decent the airframe is
The wingtips actually can't support the weight of the PL8 which is why only pl5/9 can be mounted on the wingtip
@@xivkya6882 source ?
Have you tried lowering the fuel load on the MiG-29SMT and trying again? it seems to turn like the older MiG-29 if you lower the fuel load to 30 minutes, which is the same as the old MiG-29, then, you can bring a drop tank to make up the difference.
Defyn bodypillow 😻
Get this man to 100k.
Christmas is coming 😉
That last battle was on some heavy Ace Combat shit, well played.
would love to see 12.0 version with pl-9 x)
8:05 AYYYOOOOOO
Is there a reason you like your guns on 600m just wondering
At 6:12 is the a sonic boom from the mig?
That last part of the video was pretty sensational.
Hey DEFYN, I wasn't sure if it's just me but while testing with the WTRTI having individual throttle controls seemed to nerf the engine power for some reason? I was wondering if anyone else who tried it could testify?
When the pack sale starts ur going to be a rich man mr defyn
To me this thing is like if the j8b and f5c had kids
Haha it looks like the big brother to the t-2
looks like a T-2/Jaguarr just back from grandma's house
Playing what plane is closest experienced to getting lobotomized?
Is there a rule of sorts for when you should drop afterburner while flaring a missile and when it's safe to just keep using it?
Just a rule of thumb. If missile in the air then stop afterburning.
Obviously it doesn't take a single second to cool down the engine but it'll get rid of the literal plume of fire
@@King63Kobra Thanks. I thought that would be the case, but then I see DEFYN in some cases just flare and not drop the afterburner.
@@PaulieLDP it depends on the missile on how close the missile was when fired . in some cases the r60 can be flared while full afterburner
Can you use the F9F-5 dash and actually kill something?
I regularly get 9.0-9.3 games and as soon as they see me they b-line to me with cos im an easy target.
I wanna see a good player use it.
Can you please compare the planes in your reviews to the other most common planes in that battle rating?
He basically does throughout the whole video, you just gotta listen to what he's saying and watch wtf he's doing.
I compared it to like 6 different planes -.-
@@DEFYNYeah okay, now hit the griddy
PETITION for Defyn to do a review on the TOOOOOOOOOOG
TOG!
When is sale starting and is it on steam or what? Help a noob here...
play the J35XS after the nerf, pretty plz
A very neat edition 👍
How far on th3 flaps guid video??
Yoo defyn, how do I get ur sticker
would like to see you play mirage 2000 5f since it got updated
Hi defyn, can you please revisit MiG-21bis?
your discord link doesn’t work 😢
This thing seems like more streamlined and sleeker version tornado. Tho I always disliked Chinese techtree being primarily a tanker and china has mostly a compilation of other nation's vehicles with not much originality, I must admit they have several pretty cool and unique aircraft.
Brudda Hit the Griddy
curious if its still good against all these 12.7s
Ah yes the T-2 that sniffed some crack
wtf happened to the plane guns? since the patch the damage is off as hell
I had a similar feeling, I think they downgraded the sulfuric acid in the water pistol to say hydrochloric acid
Request (1) updated tactics for A-4E
why does this thing look like a f/a-18 while upside down
Is j8f better than this plane in terms of flight performance
Pls make video your settings air RB ❤
Hey bro discord link is invalid
China will grow larger
in game or in real life?
@@jaex7714both
@@jaex7714both probably
Building the chinese empire
I am sorry sir can't build there
there's a lot of cool 11.3 jets that work really well in the matchmaker, but the thought of playing 12.3 games at all really makes them not cool!
Br rework go brrrr
Do you think pack disc is 30% or 50%?
Its gonna be 50%
Please play the Sambad or afterburning Supermystere B2. It won't be as painful as the Sa'ar I promise 🥺
Fair a better Tornado with better missiles on the same br but tornado is surely not overtiered lol (the german one)
I thought of the F-105.
what a wonderful world...
So this is what the jaguar wanted to be, sad that thing is bad at air RB
Who wins the dogfight? JH-7 or the J7E?
J-7E
Aren t those the F5E wings?
little disappointed on not seeing the JH-7A in the trailer, or it should look sick.
Bruh they didn't event mention it in the launch trailer. It feels like a very last minute addition to the update.
Can it be that you are sponsored by free GE, or was it some1 else. Anyways, is it legit or will you get banned? And do you personally use it?
It's definitely legit, can tell from personal experience and no you won't get banned
That’s a good looking airplane for being Chinese
J10 coming soon ⁉️ pl9 found files 👀
It's my impression or the P-47 M turns better than the Bf-109 K4? I did kinda got lucky yesterday when I was in a 1v1 with a P-47 M in the K4 but I think I might had messed up.
K4 better sustained and at low speed, P-47 probably better at high speed. K4 also has better power/weight below say 5-6km so the K4 should handily win the dogfight
That being said I'm not a massive thunderbolt fan so I might be biased since I am a 109 enjoyer
At higher speeds I’m pretty sure the p47 turns better but I’d be down to test that in a 1v1 since both belong to my favorite planes
@@sparkling925I'm asking because I'm not used to fight the P-47 M in the K4, only in hyper maneuverable planes like the G.56 or the Yak-3U that can basically 1 or 2 turn him and I know that the P-47 M turns decently well for a P-47.
@@pedromedeiros4955 The 109K will complete a 360 degree turn on the deck starting at 550kmh in 13.3 seconds. The P-47M does it in 13.7 seconds. The 109K turns slightly better.
Why the jh7a🤨
It's one of the few actually new good additions in this update
I know I'm not the only one who actually prefers the PL-5Cs over the PL-8.
China gets some really cool planes later in the tree.
La200 is so raw you should play it and dominate
it looks like a t2 with big wings ngl
GSh-23 is properly spelled as GeSha-23
"....just like I do in real life"
Alles goed jonge?
yay jh7 video
Day 12 of asking DEFYN to hit the griddy
Swift f7 plzz
Defyn please could you play the Hunter F6? I've just got it, and I'm actually having fun whereas I hated the F1
fgr2 gameplay when defyn
I designed THIS plane in REAL LIFE
Proof
Hey defyn, you should take out the f4d again, ita really good now
Nice
OwO what is this?
Im edging to you
sadly gaijin give us the fake PL-8,indeed it shoot PL-8B in reality,PL-8B anti hot ability is better than AIM9L,but in game PL8 is a shit compared with AIM9L.And this plane can hang with a lot of different AGMs,such as KD-88,KH-29T,and even some Anti ship missiles like YJ-83.sadly gaijin all dont give to it.And it can also use some radar guide missiles,sadly gaijin all dont add to it.
r73s are super flare horny now after the update, forget flares yesterday I launched a missile at an f16 2 seconds later the f16 launches a missile and my flare horny r73 just went for the f16s missile
Like a T-2 on steroids lol... even the silhouette is the same
M A N
Day 1 of asking DEFYN to be my dad
Every Chinese jet looks like the most generic stock image jet possible
Ahhh yeah gimme a Tornado without the swing wing cheers
That's probably because China wasn't the first to design a 3rd or 4th gen jet fighter.
Hence they had time to get inspiration from somewhere else.
And yes, they did copy the MiGs and the Su-27, but they improved on those designs as well😅
When your primary concern is suppressing internal rebellions, not fending off foes, upgrades to your 1950s kit seems sufficient. Then they saw what happened to all the T-55 clones they had sold Iraq and realized they needed to upgrade in a hurry.
Japan went through a similar culture shock in the late 1800s when the USN show up at their isolationist coast and ordered them to sign a trade deal at cannon-point