*THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER* First Time Watching MOVIE REACTION

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  • @Jarsia
    @Jarsia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    "Forty years I've been at sea. A war at sea. A war with no battles, no monuments... only casualties"
    Such a great line to sum up the cold war

  • @mayorjimmy
    @mayorjimmy ปีที่แล้ว +210

    "I'm a politician which means I'm a cheat and a liar. When I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops."
    Best line in the movie.

    • @yohanespaskal9352
      @yohanespaskal9352 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      You lost another submarine? His delivery 10/10.

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Richard Jordan really chewed the scenery in this one. I've watched several films of note he's worked in such as Logan's Run, Dune, The Secret to my Success to name a few.

    • @rrmemphis427
      @rrmemphis427 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@terrylandess6072 Richard Jordan is really an underrated actor by a lot of people. RIP

    • @crewchief5144
      @crewchief5144 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good call out. Jordan was pretty good in Secret to my Success but I never noticed how much work acting as the "bad guy" can be.
      Also...he was the original Duncan Idaho...eat your heart out, Jason Momoa.

    • @zenarcher9633
      @zenarcher9633 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Richard Jordan is very underrated. He made a couple of films in the 1970's opposite the great Robert Mitchum that are well worth a watch, "The Friends of Eddie Coyle" (1973) & "The Yakuza" (1974). Tarantino is such a fan of "Eddie Coyle", he borrowed a character name from it to name the titular heroine of his film "Jackie Brown".

  • @archersfriend5900
    @archersfriend5900 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    This movie has aged amazingly well.

    • @jazzx251
      @jazzx251 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That's because it's a proper movie - a true suspense thriller
      Proper movies never age. They, instead, become the bar that all other movies must aspire to reach.

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except for Alec

    • @joelwillems4081
      @joelwillems4081 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a well researched and accurate book. And Russians are the bad guys again, a role that they seem to enjoy while lying to their people that they are the good guys. I once had a short convo with a recent immigrant to the U.S. from Russia. Very interesting, on both sides I hope.

  • @tysoncromwell2684
    @tysoncromwell2684 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I served in the Navy and worked on the helicopter that dropped the torpedo late in the movie. I love this movie.

    • @vaughncollar8014
      @vaughncollar8014 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Small world here. I was the helmsman driving the boat used for the Morse code flashing. It was actually a cook (MS3) doing the code; he had bad seasickness and couldn’t continue as a signalman on a destroyer.

    • @ralphtijtgat3233
      @ralphtijtgat3233 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool!

  • @ClutchSituation
    @ClutchSituation ปีที่แล้ว +22

    One of the greatest lines in cinema history: "You arrogant ass! You've killed us!"

    • @vidhead85
      @vidhead85 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of my absolute favorite lines in this movie. Very quotable too

  • @maxducoudray
    @maxducoudray ปีที่แล้ว +134

    The cast in this movie is outrageous, top to bottom. So good.

    • @rcrawford42
      @rcrawford42 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But who would go to sea with Pennywise on board?

    • @nonamenola33
      @nonamenola33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rcrawford42 Haha!

    • @jasonremy1627
      @jasonremy1627 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rcrawford42 or Frank N. Furter.

    • @hebber1961
      @hebber1961 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was this Baldwin's first shot at a big role?

    • @maxducoudray
      @maxducoudray ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hebber1961 I think Beetlejuice was earlier. Not sure what other good roles he had in his early career.

  • @budhalbr
    @budhalbr ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I'm a retired U.S. navy submariner and I served 17 years in the submarine force. I've ridden the Dallas and a few more subs in her class for inspections. I was lucky enough to serve on both fast attack and ballistic missile subs. For training exercises, we used to do emergency blows from test depth which was fun. I love this movie but the quintessential submarine movie for me is Das Boat.

    • @budhalbr
      @budhalbr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hepchaos Oops, I think it could be one or the other. I should read over my comments before I post, thanks.

    • @ronmaximilian6953
      @ronmaximilian6953 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fun? I'd be terrified thinking about how USS Squalus and USS Thresher sunk.

    • @budhalbr
      @budhalbr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ronmaximilian6953 The USS Scorpion in 1968 also.

    • @Tarnatos14
      @Tarnatos14 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Das Boot you mean? I am just a german, have no navy expirence other than old sailing ships, but its also for me the best submarine movie, I'm just always stunned that it even works so well in english, without all the small german easteregs of daly live, dialect etc.

    • @jamiebrooks3864
      @jamiebrooks3864 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I joined RN because of this film
      Das Boot would have made me join the RAf if I had seen it before I joined

  • @zmarko
    @zmarko ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The shot of the sub breaching the surface in the final sub battle is one of my favorite film shots ever. It's just so epic.

    • @paulfeist
      @paulfeist ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I actually talked with someone that was aboard the submarine that did that for the filming.... a US Navy Los Angeles class sub. That was the third take, after the director asked them twice if they could "do it again, only higher this time". Well, that third take was the money... they also broke quite a bit of minor systems on that sub on that take. They're not designed to come out of the water like that!

    • @paulfeist
      @paulfeist ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@spaghetti9845 You can refuse to believe all you want... the guy I talked to was wearing dolphins on his uniform. The Navy was REALLY interested in helping with HFRO... Also, according to him, it was an emergency surface... which they did NOT to on the first two takes. They definitely got it on the the third take.
      You're free to not believe it if you prefer.

    • @operator0
      @operator0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spaghetti9845 I'm with you on that. This could also be stock footage from the U.S. Navy itself. It seems very implausible to me that the U.S. Navy would go through such ministrations for a movie, not to mention the fact that the camera just so happened to be pointing at the right spot, and focused on the correct field of view. I'm leaning towards stock U.S. Navy footage.

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, submariners do not like having to surface with high pressure air. Under normal circumstances they run awash and then draw in ocean air through the sail in order to blow out the ballast tanks. Using the air out of your high-pressure flasks means having to refill those flasks with a compressor-- a process made even slower considering you have to take all the moisture out of the air before compressing it, too.

  • @Steve_Blackwood
    @Steve_Blackwood ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love, love, love this movie! As for Sam Neill’s character, I use the mental retcon that he survives, and the next time you see him, he’s digging up raptor bones in… Montana! 😂

  • @waterbeauty85
    @waterbeauty85 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I was so sad when Sam Neill died, but when a character expresses such lovable and relatable motives, it's often a plot device to get the audience invested in a character who's going to die to remind them that the stakes are real.

    • @majbloodnok
      @majbloodnok ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Don't worry. He actually survived and did indeed get to live in Montana. He retained as a Palaeontologist and changed his name to Alan... ;)

    • @fernandocast435
      @fernandocast435 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait sam neill is fucking dead?

    • @WillCamx
      @WillCamx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When a character like that appeared in a movie my mother would say
      "Well he's marked for death".

  • @peterk7931
    @peterk7931 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Every time a lovable sidekick dies in any movie, my mother and father look at each other and one of them says "I would have liked to see Montana."

  • @jeffburnham6611
    @jeffburnham6611 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The reason Ramius wanted to get through the underwater canyons so quickly, was a tactical decision. He likely knew that there would be other Soviet submarines hunting for him, as they left their ports heading at top speed. Had Ramius decided to go slow through the canyons as the plans were designed, it's likely those hunter subs would be waiting for him when he came out the otherside, where they would have the advantage.

  • @rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901
    @rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Scott Glen is Fantastic in this!!!His character gave me goose-bumps during the dialogue exchange between him and Jack Ryan.Their scenes together were Lessons in Acting!!!

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glenn was also great in the original "Man On Fire."

    • @hafeya
      @hafeya 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And The Right Stuff@@billolsen4360

  • @michellepeters7066
    @michellepeters7066 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I highly recommend "Das Boot" from 1981.

    • @jenmurrayxo
      @jenmurrayxo  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh I'd like to see that!

    • @TomH2681
      @TomH2681 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jenmurrayxo Very few people (only TBR Schmitt maybe?) have reacted to Das Boot, but it is the best submarine movie ever IMO.
      And the most realistic.
      The theatrical cut (149 minutes) and the "original uncut version (293 minutes) should be avoided.
      The best version is the director's cut (208 minutes).

    • @jenmurrayxo
      @jenmurrayxo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ohhh man, I kinda hate when there's a bunch of cuts of movies. Then there's always someone who thinks I watched the wrong one 😂

    • @ArinmarDeKaldenoc
      @ArinmarDeKaldenoc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well just stick to the directors cut and enjoy the best submarine movie there is :)

  • @richarddefortuna2252
    @richarddefortuna2252 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The accents may be all over the place, but very interesting fact: "Armageddon" is one of, or the only, word pronounced the same and with the same meaning as between English and Russian, so it is the word that acts as a pivot between the part of the film wherein the Russians speak exclusively in Russian amongst themselves and that part of the film wherein the Russians speak English amongst themselves. Very cool touch by the director, in my opinion, at least.

    • @qbasicmichael
      @qbasicmichael ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a borrow from hebrew.

    • @richarddefortuna2252
      @richarddefortuna2252 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@qbasicmichael cool.

    • @ronmaximilian6953
      @ronmaximilian6953 ปีที่แล้ว

      The choice was between Armageddon and cat.
      Armageddon is a real place, Har Meggido, or today Tel Meggido

  • @canadianicedragon2412
    @canadianicedragon2412 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I love the "you lost another sub" line... and many others.
    The whole movie is... murky, you never know until the end who was up to what.
    Enjoyed your reaction as always.

  • @brom00
    @brom00 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Sean Connery, the only man that could get away with playing a Russian with a Scottish accent. Being from and seeing this at a theatre in Montana, I remember the cheer that went up when Sam Neills character said he wanted to live there.

    • @peterk7931
      @peterk7931 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      "He's not Russian. He's Lithuanian by birth, raised by his paternal grandfather, a fisherman." That is a Lithuanian fisherman accent, obviously.

    • @brom00
      @brom00 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@peterk7931, ha, you got me there. My bad. :-)

    • @peterk7931
      @peterk7931 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@brom00 We should talk again when Jen watches The Highlander (1986)

    • @LordVolkov
      @LordVolkov ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@peterk7931 Juan Sanchez-Villalobos Ramirez's accent? Or Connor MacCloud's? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @saltytrey
      @saltytrey ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sam Neill made it to Montana and dug dinosaur fossils.

  • @petercofrancesco9812
    @petercofrancesco9812 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I like how they handle the language in this movie they start speaking in Russian with subtitles then zoom out transitioning to speaking in english. This way the actors can concentrate on their roles and we can enjoy Sean Connery's Scottish accent. Btw, this movie is based one in a series of famous post cold war thrillers novels by Tom Clancy. Jack Ryan is played by Harrison Ford in the other adaptations that you might enjoy.

    • @CChissel
      @CChissel ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, it is a nice touch and probably for the best, the Russian was atrocious lol

    • @kennethfharkin
      @kennethfharkin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always appreciated that language transition.
      This and Patriot Games though we’re not post Cold War thrillers, they were right at its peak and when Clancy was at his best. Sadly I found his writing suffered as he became more famous and able to blow off editors.

    • @keysersoze8110
      @keysersoze8110 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've also seen people saying that there is no 'Soviet' accent. Russia is massive, the Soviet Union was even bigger. Ramius wasn't even Russian, he was Lithuanian, so having actors with very different accents was actually fairly accurate.

    • @servantofmelian9966
      @servantofmelian9966 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CChissel Dascha of Russia reviewed this movie and her assessment of the quality of the Russian matches yours. She considered it bad but intelligible.

  • @zatornagirroc7175
    @zatornagirroc7175 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The 'ping' they are talking about is a burst of active sonar. Passive sonar is about just listening and seeing what you can hear, like they do most of the time in the movie. Active sonar is when you send out a massive burst of sound, and then listen as it bounces off things. That way you can determine range and with multiple pings you can also determine course and speed. The trick is other guy can hear the sound as well, and so you give yourself away if you are trying to be stealthy.
    Great reaction, by the way. One of my favorite movies.

    • @jenmurrayxo
      @jenmurrayxo  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for this explanation!! 👌🤓

    • @takeoutartist
      @takeoutartist ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This term is also used with computers. You can “ping” another device, router, etc. through the command window.

  • @gerstelb
    @gerstelb ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In the blink-and-you’ll-miss-her role of Caroline Ryan, Jack’s wife, is Gates McFadden, known everywhere else as Dr. Crusher from Star Trek: The Next Generation.
    8:15 “Sonar” is using sound to find someone, but there are two kinds: “Active sonar” is when the sub (or whoever) sends out “pings” and they determine where something is by listening to it bounce off it. “Passive sonar” is what Jonesy is doing: figuring out what things are and where they are just by listening to the sounds they make.

  • @principals16842
    @principals16842 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great reaction! Here is some real historical background on the story which isn't commonly known.
    Tom Clancy probably based The Hunt for Red October in part on the true story of Chester M. "Whitey" Mack (1931-2008, Penn State class of '53), who was the first commander of the Sturgeon-class attack submarine USS Lapon in the late 1960s. (His nickname isn't a racial thing, but a reference to his hair color, just to be clear.) When the Russians launched their new Yankee-Class nuclear missile submarines in 1969, the US Navy had no idea of their capabilities. Along with other subs, Whitey Mack and the Lapon headed for the Barents Sea with orders to learn what they could about the Yankee-Class boats. The Lapon found a Yankee on the sonar, lost track of it, estimated where it would be, found it again, and then followed it for 47 days straight. They learned everything the US Navy wanted to know about the boat and its practices, even recognizing when different officers were running the sub. While they were tailing it, a New York Times story leaked the juicy news that the US Navy was actively shadowing a Soviet sub, and for 24 hours afterwards the Soviet skipper went nuts, doing every kind of possible maneuver to make sure nobody was following him, but he never detected the Lapon. The term "Crazy Ivan" didn't appear until a year later, but it refers to a sub making abrupt turns in order to see whether anyone is behind it, as that sub did with the Lapon. When the Lapon finally broke off to return home, the Navy sent a message to all subs in the Atlantic: "Get out of the way. Whitey's coming through." On returning home to Norfolk, the Lapon was awarded the Presidential Unit Commendation for extraordinary heroism, and Mack received the Distinguished Service Medal, the highest peace-time award the Navy had.

  • @jenmurrayxo
    @jenmurrayxo  ปีที่แล้ว +68

    ** LIKE the video 👍if you want to see more Sean Connery or submarine movies!! **
    FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE coming this week + be sure to check out THE ROCK + DR NO on my channel!

    • @bigneon_glitter
      @bigneon_glitter ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Other post-Bond Connery classics worth checking out:
      • _Outland_ (1981) - Space Western set in the _Alien_ / _Blade Runner_ "universe". One of Connery's best performances.
      • _The Untouchables_ (1987) - a perfect film. Essential.
      • _The Man Who Would Be King_ (1975) - one of the greatest Adventure films ever made. Also starring Michael Caine.

    • @williamsmith5340
      @williamsmith5340 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like your video and you cut

    • @jeffthompson9622
      @jeffthompson9622 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Das Boot and Crimson Tide are two other good submarine movies.

    • @MusicalBox
      @MusicalBox ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I liked it before it even started :D

    • @TheTcwalton
      @TheTcwalton ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sean Connery recommendations:
      The Wind and the Lion (1975)
      A Bridge Too Far (1977)
      Sub movie recommendations:
      Crimson Tide (1996?)
      Ice Station Zebra (1968?)
      On The Beach (1959?)

  • @indetigersscifireview4360
    @indetigersscifireview4360 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I served on a U.S. Navy anti-submarine Frigate at the time this movie is set in. Some things to know: 1) U.S. submarines are extremely quiet with everything being insulated against sound making them incredibly difficult to detect. 2) Soviet submarines(now Russian of course) are not nearly as quiet and therefore easily detectable. 3) There are two types of sonar, passive and active. Passive sonar uses hydrophones to listen for sounds. That is what Jonesy is using. Active sonar is sending out a sound wave and then listening for the echo off a steel hull. This is referred to as pinging because of the distinctive sound. Active sonar can give you the bearing and distance to target but it also can be used by the target to get your bearing and distance from them. One unrealistic thing about this movie is the speed at which the Naval ships are deployed. For the ship I was on it took 2 days to build up enough pressure in the boilers to get underway. Overall though a good movie that was pretty faithful to the source material.

    • @kennethfharkin
      @kennethfharkin ปีที่แล้ว

      The Soviets though did have all the titanium they could ever need and allowed them to cast entire submarine hulls out of it. As I understood it MAD gear was not regularly effective against Soviet hills due to the titanium.

    • @billignaczak3851
      @billignaczak3851 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kennethfharkin But when The Alpha Classes use to drop the Hammer we could hear those guys all the way out in the Pacific, Noisy suckers they were at high speed.

    • @kennethfharkin
      @kennethfharkin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billignaczak3851 but FAST!

  • @mobyworm
    @mobyworm ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fun video! As for recco's, "Patriot Games" is another good Clancy novel, moviefied in 1992, with Harrison Ford as Jack Ryan. And someone else mentioned "Das Boot" - I'll second that as one of the most realistic depictions of submarine life and warfare in a film. It's on a WWII era German sub, though. So it has the additional aspect of a confined, claustrophic feeling that really comes across as you watch.

  • @pkx_phant0m456
    @pkx_phant0m456 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    You need to watch Das Boot (1981) Directors Cut , its hailed as the most historically accurate and realistic submarine movie in existence, and is also either nominated or won 6 academy awards and is an outright masterpiece.

    • @wadeduffy9101
      @wadeduffy9101 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Agreed. And the performance by Jürgen Prochnow is fantastic.

    • @alanholck7995
      @alanholck7995 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have students that are submariners in US Navy. They consider Red October to be a comedy; on the other hand they say Das Boot is the best submarine movie ever. Suggest that you watch it in German with English subtitles.

    • @brozy5720
      @brozy5720 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Completely agreed! Claustrophobic and suspenseful as hell. Sonar has never been as nerve wrecking as in "Das Boot".

    • @Deb-ex9st
      @Deb-ex9st ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dos Boat, it doesn't get more real than this movie inside of submarine during world war II under attack

    • @xxJOKeR75xx
      @xxJOKeR75xx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And it brought Wolfgang Petersen to Hollywood. Best Submarine movie ever - but make sure to watch with subtitles. They're not always good but much better than the Dub.

  • @nicknewman7848
    @nicknewman7848 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yo Jen.. seeing as you're doing the Connery comeback phase... Check out 'The Name of the Rose' in which he plays a kind of Monk detective in the middle ages who speaks with Scottish accent in Italy. It's tense, bleak and scary. Also, 'The Untouchables' in which he plays an Irish cop in 1930's Chicago who speaks with a kind of Irish accent that keeps turning Scottish. He gets away with it because he's Sean, obviously. Both films are really good.

    • @MiriOhki
      @MiriOhki ปีที่แล้ว

      Two of my favorite Connery films.

  • @gaittr
    @gaittr ปีที่แล้ว +27

    You are the perfect analytical intelligent person to review this movie at its best.

  • @arctan2010
    @arctan2010 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Another submarine movie to consider is _Crimson Tide_ starring Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman. The tension is also similar. Cheers 🍻

    • @jenmurrayxo
      @jenmurrayxo  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd really like to see that! 👍

    • @davidtstravels8939
      @davidtstravels8939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, definitely a tense thriller! I also enjoyed U-571.

    • @asterix7842
      @asterix7842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't forget Das Boot.

    • @w41duvernay
      @w41duvernay ปีที่แล้ว

      YES, another sub movie that was the bomb!

    • @MarkusCrassus
      @MarkusCrassus ปีที่แล้ว

      There are only two parts of Crimson Tide that are accurate. The guy being duct taped to a chair is one

  • @attorneyrobert
    @attorneyrobert ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Oh man, this is one of my favorite films of all time -- thank you for reacting to this film! Connery and Baldwin here are legends!

  • @waterbeauty85
    @waterbeauty85 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The "don't respond well to bullets" line reminds me of volume one of Jim Steranko's book "The History of Comics" saying that shooting a gun in a space ship would have disastrous consequences and that it justified the use of hand to hand combat including elegant, swashbuckling scenes of sword fighting depicted on the covers of pulp science fiction books and magazines and the classic Flash Gordon comic strip.

    • @flashgordon6238
      @flashgordon6238 ปีที่แล้ว

      I concur!

    • @wwoods66
      @wwoods66 ปีที่แล้ว

      Setting things on fire also seems like a bad idea. Particularly when it's unnecessary -- Ramius could have just stuck the paper out of sight somewhere.

  • @frozenharold
    @frozenharold ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you remember in the pilot episode of Firefly, while they are being chased by Reavers, they say they are going to pull an "Ivan." Wash says "Here's something you can't do." and flips one of the engines around making Serenity instantly spin around.

  • @BogeyTheBear
    @BogeyTheBear 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    20:27 In the novel, Jack Ryan was supposed to be just a liason between the US government and the Royal Navy group helping out with the hunt. The CIA was flying out a team who were going to be the experts handling the defection, but their helicopter crashed on the way out to the fleet. Ryan got pulled into the operation because he was the only guy they had left.

  • @jeffthompson9622
    @jeffthompson9622 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I saw this in the theater with a friend who was missile chief of a US Navy "boomer" sub. I worked on the construction of three classes of submarines from '90 to '94. Those contributed to my interest in this subject. The living environment has some parallels to space travel.

    • @ronmaximilian6953
      @ronmaximilian6953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Three classes of submarines?
      688i Improved Los Angeles class, Ohio class ballistic missile submarine, and Seawolf class ?

    • @jeffthompson9622
      @jeffthompson9622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ronmaximilian6953 Yes. Superstructures, Ohio class bows, 688 sterns, and some internal structure for the first two Seawolfs. Those were barged north from SC for assembly. Our final assembly building was 235 feet high. It had three 195 foot high doorways on each long side and an 80 foot high door at each end. I caught and relocated a dozen cottonmouths from that building while working there. After closing, that site was used for filming Die Hard 3 and Ace Ventura 2.

  • @twylanaythias
    @twylanaythias ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "I would liked to have seen Montana." The saddest seven words ever spoken in a movie.

  • @josephsearles1111
    @josephsearles1111 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If you want to see a different kind of sub movie I recommend Operation Petticoat with Cary Grant and Tony Curtis

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good comic relief after Cary Grant's first submarine movie, "Destination Tokyo," was more deadly serious.

  • @SirChaosS
    @SirChaosS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    submarines operate with two types of sonar, active and passive. active sonar sends out an audio pulse "pinging" and it will bounce off anything in the area, telling them exactly where any other ships are. passive is listening only. you can manually set the the active sonar to emit only a single ping. the high-low "bell sound" of the torpedoes is active sonar.

  • @MST3Killa
    @MST3Killa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is one of those movies I think I've probably seen 100+ times in my life. It used to be on TV 2-3 times a week and my mom loved Sean Connery, and my dad loved the whole espionage submarine thing. So it was always on.
    I dunno, there's a strange comfort to this movie for me.

  • @robertholmes6906
    @robertholmes6906 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hey Jen !! The next Jack Ryan movie is "Patriot Games" which is also very good !! My favorite is the one after that, "Clear and Present Danger"!! You should react to BOTH of the next 2 !! (Oh.. don't forget about "The Towering Inferno" !!! It's an ALL-TIME CLASSIC !!

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Games" and "Danger" both have Harrison Ford as Jack Ryan, who gives the character a little more of both a dramatic and a comic touch than Baldwin.

  • @johanlaurasia
    @johanlaurasia ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remember at the beginning of the movie... he said he couldn't sleep on the plane... at the end he was sleeping like a baby...

  • @darrellschoppa8467
    @darrellschoppa8467 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is one of my favorite movies! I’ve lost count of how many times I have watched it. “One ping only.” Can’t say that without doing Sean Connery’s accent. 😂

  • @LordVolkov
    @LordVolkov ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As others have suggested, Das Boot is the ultimate submarine movie and well worth a watch (any version, but the director's cut in German is 🙌)
    For something more accessible to American audiences - U-571, with Mathew McConaughey and Harvey Keitel (among others)
    For a submarine comedy - Down Periscope, with Kelsey Grammer

    • @asterix7842
      @asterix7842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another great comedy- Operation Petticoat (1959) with Cary Grant and Tony Curtis.

  • @jeffsherk7056
    @jeffsherk7056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Hunt for Red October is a novel by Tom Clancy. The idea for the novel started with was the attempt of Soviet enlisted sailors to steal their navy ship and sail it to Norway while their officers were on other duty ashore. The ship was intercepted and the enlisted sailors were arrested. Tom Clancy took this true story as the starting point for a story in which the captain of a Soviet submarine stole his sub and took it to the west. The Hunt for Red October is fiction, but one of Tom Clancy's best novels.

  • @rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901
    @rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even Jeffery Jones' speech about being able to park 100 warheads on the white house lawn was Bone-chilling.The screenplay to this Film was Impeccable and Thought-Provoking and Intelligent.

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear ปีที่แล้ว

      A ballistic missile normally works by kicking the warhead bus out of the atmosphere and letting it coast along, gravity being the primary force conspiring to pull it back to Earth.
      Parking two dozen submarine missiles less than a hundred miles from the target allows you to make a depressed-trajectory attack instead of a ballistic attack: Basically, the missile expends all its fuel going sideways through the atmosphere rather than up-and-over through space. It hits the target in a few minutes rather than a half-hour, but you need to be close to do it.

  • @adamskeans2515
    @adamskeans2515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sam Neill's character's last words "I would like to have seen Montana" and then his character's opening scene in Jurisic Park, is in Montana

  • @JustMe-um8zp
    @JustMe-um8zp 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reading the book, it gave a sense of "will Ramius launch, or defect?". In the movie, they do their best to give the same suspense (and do it well), but no one thought Connery would launch! Still a great movie.

  • @karlsmith2570
    @karlsmith2570 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    13:28
    "That's Some Turbulence"
    Well, Jen, he's flying in an AWACS plane, and because of that sensor dish on top of the fuselage, any kind of crosswind would toss you around like you're in a clothes dryer

  • @bekindandrewind1422
    @bekindandrewind1422 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    12:55 --- You missed that because it was so subtle... Basically Ramius is threatening them with the same fate as Putin..

  • @jamesweible5357
    @jamesweible5357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Low key MVP for me was the Sonar Operator, without his skills they would have never found the Red October.

  • @TheNightBadger
    @TheNightBadger ปีที่แล้ว +1

    _"I love a good wall safe."_ - Never thought I'd hear that in my life. But can't disagree.

  • @eyesofisabelofficial
    @eyesofisabelofficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fun fact : Soviet subs are painted green on the inside - more soothing for the crew - not kidding either.
    Production designers decided on a dark scheme so the audience could distinguish one side from the other.

    • @fruzsimih7214
      @fruzsimih7214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The production design and cinematography of the movie is mindblowing. From the lighting, you always know which sub is onscreen.

  • @michaelodonnell824
    @michaelodonnell824 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People forget just how tense the Nuclear situation was in the early to mid 1980s. A couple of Pop cultural examples include Sting's "If the Russians love their Children too" and Nena's "99 (Red) Luftballons". Reagan called the USSR "an Evil Empire" and joked about starting a Nuclear War.
    This movie was conceived and planned during that time...

  • @geraldrhodes4114
    @geraldrhodes4114 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another fun fact, Admiral Painter, the Skipper of the carrier, was Fred D. Thompson, who happened to have another job as a US Senator from the State of Tennessee from 1994 - 2003. He played in several other movies as well.

  • @waynezimmerman1950
    @waynezimmerman1950 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I really liked about Alex Baldwin's version of Jack Ryan was that while Harrison Ford would mostly play him as action hero(which was great fun), Red October gave us the analyst. It helped that in life I had a father(USAF Major Wallace Zimmerman, of beloved memory)who was military intelligence(from the early years of our involvement in Vietnam through to his retirement in the mid 70s).

  • @technofilejr3401
    @technofilejr3401 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    22:22 Yo tell em Marine!! Jack never got to serve but he still knows how to bark orders.

  • @karlsmith2570
    @karlsmith2570 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    15:48
    "That's Super Fast, Isn't It?"
    For a submarine as big as Red October and in such a tight space that they're in, it is super fast.
    A submarine that's the size of the Red October is nearly impossible to maneuver at such high speeds in such close quarters

  • @benediktcz
    @benediktcz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jack Ryan series is probably my favorite non-fantasy/scifi book series

  • @jamielandis4308
    @jamielandis4308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clancy was the master of the Cold War thrillers. “Patriot Games,” and “Clear And Present Danger” also have the Jack Ryan character played by Harrison Ford. They are both worth watching. Ben Afleck played him in “The Sum of All Fears,” but it’s a weak script. Skip the Netflix series; while based on the character, it doesn’t follow the books. The book (and movie) has the best definition of a politician I’ve ever heard: “If I’m not kissing babies, I’m stealing their lollipops.” RIP Richard Jordan! Ronald Reagan’s fondness for jelly beans was legend, so everyone in government during his terms had jellybeans around. It was a cool detail in the movie. Some other sub movies: “Crimson Tide,” “Das Boot,” and “The Bedford Incident.”

  • @corumhayes8178
    @corumhayes8178 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I LOVE this movie! I like watching people react to it because it has a lot of moving parts so reactors have to pay attention to keep up with the plot. You did a really good job of that.

  • @valeriefields7902
    @valeriefields7902 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tupelo's torpedo came back to his own boat & blew it up.

  • @ExUSSailor
    @ExUSSailor ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my all time favorite movies! I can still quote huge parts of it off the top of my head.

    • @ExUSSailor
      @ExUSSailor ปีที่แล้ว

      In the book, it's made a bit clearer that the cook's assistant was actually an undercover GRU (Soviet Military Intelligence) agent.

  • @teambanzai9491
    @teambanzai9491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the novel, which this film is based on, Ryan pretty much rules out that Marko Ramius is out to launch against the US quite early in the story, given that he could launch any time and didn't need to be off the coast to do so. Highly recommend you read the book to understand more about how modern submarine warfare works.
    Tom Clancy also wrote SSN, a non-fiction work and an inside look at US nuclear attack submarines. The recent trend in submarine design is looking at sonar stealth designs as opposed to just silent running.
    The next film, Patriot Games, is the origin story of Jack Ryan (but played by Harrison Ford). It is also the second book in the Jack Ryan series begun by The Hunt for Red October.
    Probably the best submarine film is Das Boot (1981), which takes place on a German U-boat (U-96) during 1941. A more recent TV series (2018) by the same name is a sequel to the film. This time it is U-616 during 1942. A fourth season was recently greenlit.

  • @travtotheworld
    @travtotheworld 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a year old, but in case no one has mentioned it, Fred Thompson (the actor who says "Russians never take a dump without a plan," ran for President of the United States in 2008. At one point in the primaries, he was polling at about 25%.

  • @falcychead8198
    @falcychead8198 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just realized that this is a science fiction movie. Magnetohydrodynamics is a real thing, and is a factor involved in trying to create a productive fusion generator, but is impractical (so far as we know) for propulsion of anything as big as a submarine. This movie is built on the premise that someone found a way to make it work. So, it's science fiction.

  • @craigm3353
    @craigm3353 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I got another military movie for you to react to. The Final Countdown (1980) The U.S.S. Nimitz goes back to December 6th 1941. Filmed on the Nimitz. One of my favorites.

    • @bryancurtis220
      @bryancurtis220 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also one of my favorites, I watch it every year on or near the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor.

    • @dbstake9120
      @dbstake9120 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely!!! One of my Favorites!

    • @BackstageAtTheSmith
      @BackstageAtTheSmith ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooh yeah that's a great one

    • @jamielandis4308
      @jamielandis4308 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was gonna say that! 😎

    • @jjkcharlie
      @jjkcharlie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Philadelphia Experiment, also

  • @GF_Baltar
    @GF_Baltar ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Admiral, someone has given a loaded pistol to Alec Baldwin!"
    "Mother of God"

  • @chrisrodenbeck6327
    @chrisrodenbeck6327 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a SONAR tech like Jonsey aboard the 637 class nuclear submarine USS Pargo. It is not loud aboard the boat(they are called boats and not subs) . Most of the SONAR stuff they did in the movie is not even close to true. It was an interesting six years though.

  • @JohnSipe-jt7bm
    @JohnSipe-jt7bm 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The sonar man saying he heard singing is a callback to Enemy Below. 9:20

  • @martinbraun1211
    @martinbraun1211 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I hope You will give STAR TREK a chance! 🖖

    • @jenmurrayxo
      @jenmurrayxo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Show or movies?

    • @martinbraun1211
      @martinbraun1211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jenmurrayxo I would like to say "always start at the beginning", so with the Classic Show from the 60's but you could just watch the movies if it gets to much for you otherwise.

    • @peterschmidt4348
      @peterschmidt4348 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jenmurrayxo Maybe you should watch a few select episodes to get the essence of Star Trek before starting the films!?

    • @bigneon_glitter
      @bigneon_glitter ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jenmurrayxo Yep, the original _Star Trek_ movies (particularly the even numbered ones) are essential. If you're a newbie, maybe dive into a few classic eps like "Space Seed" (the prequel to _Star Trek II),_ "City On The Edge Of Forever", "Balance Of Terror" (the submarine battle in space episode) or "The Trouble With Tribbles" - then jump into _ST: The Motion Picture._ Fun awaits.

    • @TheTcwalton
      @TheTcwalton ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Star Trek : yes!

  • @rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901
    @rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alec Baldwin does really excellent impressions!!All the episodes of SNL when he first Hosted have All been nominated for Emmys.I've seen him do an Al Pacino Scarface-like impression,Marlon Brando and various accents and characterizations.He's just remarkable.Love his Sean Connery!!!

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The President at this time, Ronald Regan was known to love jelly beans. And he distributed them to everyone in his cabinet.

  • @jeffthompson9622
    @jeffthompson9622 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Dallas is a Los Angeles class attack sub, one of the three types I worked in constructing.

  • @flashgordon6238
    @flashgordon6238 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Incredible movie that should be seen on the big screen. Watched it at least six times in the theater. The underwater scenes and the sweeping music... Alec was a good Jack Ryan, but Harrison cemented the role.

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was pleased that the 'other' Ryans had decent actors even if the films were less than this or the Ford versions.

  • @danh8804
    @danh8804 ปีที่แล้ว

    Red October was still damaged by the torpedo attack because of the force of the water displaced when the torpedo struck the side of the canyon. Torpedoes fit fit really well in that "almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades" axiom.
    I don't know why, but watching Red October's crew see the battle unfold beneath them kinda gets me. There's a couple comedy beats, but watching their moment of grief is poignant when you think about what they *think* just happened - their captain and officers saved them from a deadly radiation dose and then submerged to give up their lives to keep the ship from being captured by the US Navy, decided to make a fight of it and gave the Americans hell before being sunk. It's touching watching them all take off their caps.
    That was the last great Cold War thriller to be made while still under the shadow of the Cold War (or Cold War One as we should probably call it).

  • @PaulLoh
    @PaulLoh ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a submarine sonar technician. The submarine's baffles are the region of the 360 degree display that is taken up by the submarine itself. I was on an Ohio class submarine. We had a blind spot that we remedied by using "towed arrays". Those are listening devices that are towed behind the submarine, to listen to the baffle region. The only problem is that their placement prevented us knowing the direction of any sound. If we needed to figure out where a sound was coming from, we had to "check our baffles". That entailed maneuvering the submarine at least 30 degrees either port (left), or starboard (right). That way, if we moved closer to or farther from the sound, we knew where it was. None of what I told you is classified information. I did have a Secret clearance while I served, and to this day, I have never divulged any information that would compromise the security of the nation I served. Oh, and you wondered how loud it would be on board a submarine. We had to be as quiet as possible because stealth was our number one priority. That's why they call us the silent service.

  • @regould221
    @regould221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The actor who plays the captain on the Dallas, Scott Glenn, was allowed on a real US sub to observe the a real captain. Glenn was so impressed with the relaxed way the real captain operated that he just copied the real captain for his role on the Dallas.

  • @blacktronlego
    @blacktronlego ปีที่แล้ว

    If you enjoy this, consider watching 'Crimson Tide'.
    15:23 'He went down in a chopper accident' That's why he hates turbulence.
    25:35 'I don't know what a ping is' modern sonar is passive, they are listening for the sound of submarines, that is why a silent one is so terrifying. Old style sonar used echolocation, making a noise and analysing the echo reflected back. That noise was called a 'Ping'.

  • @PamJernigan
    @PamJernigan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IMO, this was the best of the Jack Ryan movies. But I'd read the books for the others before seeing the movie versions so I was mostly just upset that they changed things from the book. To be fair, they changed a lot in this one from the book, but I think it really improved the story and tightened up the pacing. This was the movie that started me reading the books - I saw it in the theater when it came out. Yeah, great tense story, good characters, so many lines I like to quote. Fun watching you watch it!

  • @grimreaper-qh2zn
    @grimreaper-qh2zn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved the on screen subtitles. At lunch the Officer says to Connery displayed as "He didn't sleep on his teeth did he?" 🤣

  • @bundoksaint6888
    @bundoksaint6888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being a former Squid (US Navy sailor) myself, love me some "Red October." I read the book before the movie came out, and was surprised how faithfully it was adapted.
    You need to do a reaction to "A Few Good Men." Another Navy related film with a great ensemble cast that was on regular rotation while we were underway on deployments.

  • @christomlin6966
    @christomlin6966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Jack Ryan saga, particularly Clear and Present Danger.

  • @fruzsimih7214
    @fruzsimih7214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is my son's favorite movie. He's almost 12.

  • @3dbadboy1
    @3dbadboy1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At the movies, when the captain surrendered the submarine, the whole audience cheered.

  • @lazyperfectionist1
    @lazyperfectionist1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:28 "That _is_ weird. Why wouldn't he just do it? Why did he have to leave a letter?"
    Because he knew that his officers would have those among them who would entertain thoughts of returning to Russia if he didn't, and he knew they could not afford such divided priorities. He had to make sure that they understood that trying to go back meant being put to death and the only hope of survival meant making a concerted effort to get to the US.

  • @boblieser
    @boblieser 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jen, the Captain of the Carrier USS Enterprise is played by the same actor who payed the holodeck character Moriarity in Star Trek the Next Generation. Moriarity is Captain of the Enterprise.

  • @billparrish4385
    @billparrish4385 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Now that you’ve seen the movie, the novel of the same name is a great entrance into the world of Tom Clancy, even though chronologically it’s not the first one. In it, Ramius becomes a friend of the family to the Ryans, and ‘Uncle Marco’ to the little girl, if memory serves (been a long time since I read it in the 80s, but I think that’s right). Great reaction and I hope you find great enjoyment in the books.

  • @MartinBeerbom
    @MartinBeerbom 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just before the final torpedo hits the Konovalov, there's a single frame shot of the tip of the torpedo with a red Soviet star on it.

  • @mikebrown7799
    @mikebrown7799 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great premiere and reactions to The Hunt for Red October, Jen!!!🎬👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽Definitely one of my favorite films with an older Sean Connery.

  • @joelwillems4081
    @joelwillems4081 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This movie was a phenomenon when it came out. It was the last year of the Cold War. At that time it was quite obvious the Soviet Union was losing the war and their iron clad grasp on their satellites. A few years later I read the novel, my first Tom Clancy book, while on our high school class trip to Toronto.

  • @jeffthompson9622
    @jeffthompson9622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fred Dalton Thompson was also a U.S. senator and once ran for President.

  • @artembentsionov
    @artembentsionov หลายเดือนก่อน

    “I would like to have seen Montana.”
    Don’t worry, Dr. Grant, you will

  • @SkullAngel002
    @SkullAngel002 ปีที่แล้ว

    30:17 - No, the torpedo collided with the Red October but did not detonate (what you see are torpedo parts and debris). Torpedoes are designed to "arm itself" at the last few seconds before impact and within close proximity to its target. The reason is because you don't want to risk premature detonation if, for example, the torpedo is traveling under commercial ships or underwater rocks, etc.
    Since Ramius moved the Red October closer to the torpedo, it didn't have a chance to arm itself before smacking into the Red October.

  • @rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901
    @rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Scott Glenn's character hands Ramius his gun and he takes it.Did you catch the very slight wink Sean Connery gives him.That wasn't in the script.That's acting!!!

  • @kermitcook8498
    @kermitcook8498 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saddest line? " I would like to have seen Montana ". Tons of great sub movies out there Jen. Lots of Capt Nemo. Gene Hackman has Crimson tide. Harrison Ford has K19. Cary Grant has Operation petticoat. WWI, WWII, cold war and some sci-fi. The H L Hunley, US Civil War, first successful sub attack. Sank USS Housatonic. Based on true story.

  • @humanvideosponge4529
    @humanvideosponge4529 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw this movie at the theater when it first came out. Loved it and still do.

  • @shadxwslash44
    @shadxwslash44 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never expected to hear Darth Vader say "That torpedo did not self destruct, and I was never here."

  • @HH-hd7nd
    @HH-hd7nd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Hunt for Red October - the second best submarine movie after Das Boot (The Boat) from 1981.

  • @quicksilvermad
    @quicksilvermad ปีที่แล้ว

    When I was a kid, this was the movie we watched whenever we came across it while channel surfing.
    To me, it still has the best transition from the language being spoken to the one *we* hear.
    15:20 holy shit I forgot Niles from The Nanny was in this movie

  • @rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901
    @rockinrichardsmoviereviews1901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My God this movie is so engaging to me.Even just watching your reaction to it for the Umteenth Time,it's pulling me in.The story is so terrific it just immediately involves you as the viewer.I Love it!!!!

  • @allenporter6586
    @allenporter6586 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Hunt for Red October is Tom Clancy's best novel and was made into the best of the Tom Clancy movies. The rest devolved into action flicks with a ton of jingoism.

  • @michaelproctor8100
    @michaelproctor8100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tom Clancy based his novel on the real-life attempted defection of a soviet frigate, the Storozhevoy which happened in 1975.