Dell 2721DGF. Has his higher refresh rate, better quality build (metal rather than cheap plastic), faster response time, oc mode...overall a better monitor.
for any prospective buyers, the stand is freaking HUGE. I would reccomend going with a monitor stand/mount. They go for like $50 and are absolutely worth it.
Agree, I've got the 32" variant with the same stand - although very solid, it takes up a fair bit of desk space and pushes the monitor out from the back of my desk further than necessary. Cheapo aftermarket stand for the win.
lol me too bro, I just bought it for a 2nd monitor from Best Buy ...I opted for the open box "excellent" for $182. Can't beat it as a 2nd monitor setup at this price range!
It's all good. The pixels on the lg are not fast enough to do a true 165hz anyway ( this is the case with most IPS and VA panels). Usually the ideal refreshes around 120-144 depending on model.
I have the MSI alphabet soup monitor. I prefer the msi for Swivel and the led backlight is nice for nighttime ambient light. Fast overdrive on the msi is incredibly good and provides backlight strobing that is ideal at 120 and 165hz also the hdr isn’t bad but by no means great. Also there has been a firmware update for MSI which adds 100% Srgb 100% ARGB 98%D3 and those settings have been calibrated from the factory. Also with the firmware update improved the cheat crosshairs which are a joke in stock form. I hope this helps some.
It’s amazing sometimes FAST is a good option to use but sometimes bad according to your in depth reviews, and that is a big eye opener. Also, the fact it would be great if manufacturers would pre-calibrate their monitors properly, as that makes the enjoyment experience out of the box ready to go unless makers could include inbuilt within an option menu a calibration screen for grey scales and colour bars to fine tune it instead at home.
LOL, You'll pay an additional $50 for them to pre calibrate it. Besides, I guarantee that you'll adjust something because your preference isn't the same as someone else. I find that I rarely agree with what the experts say when it comes to color. I like what I like, so I'll adjust it at home.
What happened with MSI MAG274QRF-QD? It was removed from graphs and you didnt even mention it as an alternative? I am looking for a 27" 1440p monitor and was between the GP850 and the MSI, leaning a little towards the MSI model according to your previous videos. I think I would only consider the 83B if it is like 100+ cheaper.
@@traaage7782 had the MSI before (VA Panel) but i returned it because i had extrem flickering with FreeSync, i got the GL850 now, works great, i dont notice a bad contrast, the colors are strong and good
I love LG monitors! I have got the LG 32GP850 and it is a really good monitor. I was lucky enough to get it on sale too. I couldn't pass up the deal after seeing your review on it.
Care to take another look at the MSI MAG274QRF-QD now that it was updated with a real color clamp feature? I've been dying to see if that improves things, or even if the default color pallet is more accurate too.
I brought this exact monitor back in August on sale at Best Buy for $349. Love this monitor a huge upgrade coming from Asus 24” VG246H. Perfect gaming for my PS5. Tip: upgrade the monitor firmware as soon as you set it up.
@@swagger3550 this monitor is worth the investment. I’m very happy with my purchase. The is Resolution 2560 X 1440 and it can get really bright but I currently have it at 47 brightness. Currently playing Battlefield 2042 on it and it’s worth it while using on my PS5 and also for PC.
Went with the Gigabyte M27Q and I love it. Even with the BGR panel, with proper setting, text looks great also, hard to sometimes tell the difference when side by side with an RGB panel.
The screen is great, I just had to turn down the brightness on mine to about 75 or so, same with contrast, otherwise text on bright webpages is barely visible, at least to me - but man, everything pops on this monitor, compared to the TN panel I had.
Just followed the Amazon link and grabbed the LG 27GL83 on sale for 279.99. Great deal on a solid monitor - your review convinced me to pull the trigger.
Thanks for another great review! This channel is quickly becoming my go-to whenever shopping for monitors. I found a good deal with this monitor for $399 CAD (about $295 USD), which comes out to about $330 USD after taxes. Here's to hoping the poor contrast won't be a problem!
@@s16non Loving it so far, no complaints at all. It holds up very well in my opinion even while standing next to a professional grade ProArt display. Going from a 60hz refresh rate monitor to this one is also huge for my gaming performance.
@@taq154 it's definitely worth it imo. I'm a broke college student that got my first high refresh 1440p IPS monitor from a 1080p TN 60hz panel and HOLY SHIT.....😭
I've been watching some monitor reviews the past days and I'm still confused regarding colour gamut. From what I understand most applications which aren't content creation only use the standard sRGB colour range, correct? So is there any use for a high gamut monitor in everyday browsing and gaming or does it make more sense to buy a monitor based on the quality of the included SDR mode? I remember that some monitors lock down almost all settings in this mode while others can be configured more freely.
Yes the sRGB mode is one of the most important things if you do value accurate colours for gaming or any other content consumption. You can get around it with ICC profiles and using borderless window modes but yeah, fullscreen exclusive is almost always the preferable option. So I guess having crappy sRGB mode doesn't really matter if you primarily play competitive / e-sports or if you simply like the more contrasty oversatured look of content, it's especially becoming more important now as even average screens have pretty high gamut.
Can avoid this problem by buying the 27gl83a. It might be slightly less responsive than the "nano" but it has the normal color gamut, and still rated as a fast monitor
Oh man this makes me really regret getting the GP850. Oh well at least the USB ports at the back are actually quite useful to me since I use a webcam and mic which don’t have very long cables
@@naamadossantossilva4736 I did some research about the GL850 and I’m fairly sure the 83 for that Gen as well, but it had worse colour accuracy and so I dismissed it. As for the GP83, I’m quite certain it wasn’t available when I purchased the GP850.
Hi, I cannot find this monitor anywhere, not even on LG's own website. There is only a 27GL83A-B Can you maybe make a video explaining LGs naming and if they are year related. I always get confused, there are the GN, GL , GP models but there is no clear distinction.
Another year, another 850/83 combo 😊 I played the game last year of getting the GL83A at a reasonable price then, in August this year, getting a GL850 cheaper than I'd paid for the 83A due to the newer 165hz models coming out. Give it a couple of years and I'll probably be playing this game with the 4k/144hz (or whatever is current) models
I understand that the GL 83a has a normal color gamut as opposed to the wide gamut of the 850. Some like this and some do not. What are your experiences with the responsiveness between the two? Supposedly the nano is slightly faster than the GL. Is it noticeable to your eye or only in tests? Current gl83a owner and OCD monitor buyer 😎
got one used a year ago for 150, and I'm extremely happy with it! I love the piece of mind that lcd displays provide with no burn in. The display will allow manual overclocking up to 175 Hz before it says "out of range" too!
I found this monitor priced at $350 thanks for the great review! No real reason to buy the more expensive version thank you def the best monitor reviewer
Hey, I need help to decide which monitor to buy in black Friday, the LG 27gp83b or the msi mag274qrf-qd(in my region there is no LG 27gp850b yet unfortunately) I can afford both just need to pick one, it's mostly for gaming on my PC and my PS5. Thanks for the help 🙂.
Would you please do a monitor calibration tutorial? Most monitors are not properly calibrated and a decent tutorial vid on how to do it would be very much appreciated.
While @bananya is right, that vid he is speaking of is more of an overview. The problem is that monitor HW calibration falls into two separate fields (manual + MK I eyeball vs hardware assisted). You can use EIZO monitor test and MK I eyeball (those differ frrom person to person) to tame cheap displays and horrible factory settings to OK settings for everyday use by Joe Avg, that 's still a far cry from a proper HW calibrration. Looks nice ≠ accurate. And hardware calibration is a can of worms in itself. Different hardware devices and different software probably also will differ. Personally I ve a Datacolor Spyder 5 (device that cost me 130€ used with a full licence) and I could clearly see the difference in the 3 monitors I used it so far between factory (usually utter garbage - oversatured, especially skin tones - Trumps everywhere - or cold blue picture). The difference between my manual calibration and the HW assisted was much less, though notable . And than comes the problem with variantion between individual units ... sadly there isn't any decent test/review in that field.
After watching and reading a bunch of different reviews about 1440p 144Hz budget monitors, I finally settled on the LG 27GL83A-B thanks to your review. The monitor currently sells for $299.99 USD on Amazon, which makes it a tremendous value. Anyway, thanks again.
How many variants of the same panel do they wanna do? I got them all, and to be honest the oldest one (GL850) still has the best anti-glare coating (good reduction of reflections, whilst not making the image grainy) and otherwise absolutely identical behavior, except for the few hz overclocked refresh rate, where 144 is really enough already.
I recently (early September) bought a 2nd GL850 on sale and was shocked at how poor the factory color calibration was, it has an extreme yellow tint and overall dullness compared to the GL850 I bought in 2019 when it was new. I guess I got what I payed for since it was on sale for under 350 USD.
I got Dell S2721DGF on a big discount and I'm very happy with it. I also won the backlight and dead pixels lottery with that Dell so that makes it even sweeter purchase. This seems like a similar monitor (considering they use the same panel) but it is more expensive than Dell so no regrets on my side.
One thing practically all these reviews miss is the variable refresh rate min threshold. True G-sync is 1-max Hz. G-sync compatible usually varies from 30-60 Hz. This one is 60 hz. You generally want that to be as low as possible.
Hi Tim! Great video as always. Would it be possible for you to review the Lenovo G27Q-20 and/or HP X27i? Both displays have 1440p high refresh rate panels and at US$300, the monitors are pretty appealing entry-level options.
LG 32GP850 minimum 67 nits? No wonder my eyes are burning at night. Still a wonderful monitor that i got for cheaper than the 27" ver and the MSI&Gigabyte monitors.
Kinda weird, considering you actually have to own a GPU that can push 165+ fps at 1440p. For your average AAA title like CoD or BF, you'd need a high end GPU to output these frames at good visual quality.
tell me about it. my Acer x34 with its 100hz (this is the original model, not the refreshed one that can go to 180hz), starting to show its age, when a "value" monitor is better in every single way...
I have this monitor and it's really good for the price :). How much is it going for, where you live? Honestly if you want to cheap 1440p monitor just go for it. I have no complains, besides the typical minor light bleed around corners in dark scenes especially if my room is dark, but it's very typical for ips monitors and ofc you can always return it if you dont like.
Why have your results changed on the s2721dgf since a year ago? Did you review another sample or change your testing methods? Average gray to gray went from 3.96ms and 10.5% now to 5.54 and 18%. Also total input lag went from 6.9 to 8.9ms
Ok since no one has chimed in I did some research to find out why the change. At the beginning of this year Hardware Unboxed changed its testing methods to have a larger percentage of the overall response time of each transition. They had a video on this at the beginning of the year I guess I missed that one. A good video if you like to need out on how monitors are tested and how they have improved there testing methodology. All monitors had an increase with no real change in placement on the charts.
The 850 one is on sale for 399 at best buy right now. I bought one for that price last time it was on sale a few months ago, might just cop a second one right now
Interesting note, the previously reviewed MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD, not on these lists, has fallen in price to around $420us, and the non QD model is down to $380-$400. May possibly be a better choice.
I got this over the 850b. Both are around $300 right now. But it's a little harder to find the 850b over the 835b. I was hesitant for a few reasons, the picture quality from the 850b i owned were wonderful. Also, the red on the front of the stand shows.. not a big fan of red
The monitors you review are rarely ever listed for sale anywhere. Take this one for example....no listing on Amazon even with your link. The only one listed is LG 32GP850-B. Nothing on Amazon, nothing on Newegg.
I am literally in love with this monitor, initially I had a TN panel, went to a VA panel with nice visuals but the black smearing and what looked like blur in dark areas was far too distracting, like I couldn't stop fixating on the problem areas, and so I returned that and picked this baby up and WOW - seems pretty close to VA, at least for me, without any of the problems, AT ALL, if you are thinking about getting this monitor, don't - if you can afford it, pick it up, you will not regret it.
Facts, This monitor is sick for what it can do and its a nano ips which he didnt mentioned but the VA black smearing can be extremely annoying and to the colors on TN and VA look off after looking at a ips panel. For gaming and photoshop, IPS is the way to go
Picked up this monitor on sale for $229 USD. Compared to other offerings in my budget (sub $300), this seemed like the best option. While I do typically play games in darker settings, I haven't really noticed the low contrast being an issue. It's possible that later units are hitting better contrast numbers. However, I do primarily use to play FPS titles like R6 Siege or Valorant, making the response times perfect for this.
Well, 2 months ago I did bite the bullet and bought ViewSonic VX2758-2KP-MHD Gaming. It was on sale as well, bought it for some 270 EUR and yeah, money was big concern for me. I do think it's solid choice in the budget cathegory and obviously HW unboxed thought as well. EDIT: Love the height adjustibility of this LG monitor! Wish my ViewSonice had that too. My only gripe so far.
Aside from their media relations snafu, LG has absolutely killed it this year. Between delivering an exceptional product for every budget and actually having stock for their products, there's not really any holes in their lineups, aside from the 42 inch OLED not existing yet.
Picked up the 32” today at Best Buy for $350! Haven’t really messed with the color settings yet, but so far I’m pretty happy with it. If anybody had recommended color adjustments/settings, I would definitely appreciate it.
Awesome job as ever, Love your content. I have been thinking about this for quite some time and finally am asking it. Why do you not show how colour calibration of a monitor is/should be done? A tutorial perhaps for the curious among us to have a better understanding and for the few who are lucky to get their hands on hardware to calibrate the monitor. Thank you.
Highly recommend this if you like FPS games like cod. Been great with my series x and was a huge upgrade. Cod at 120 frames is a huge difference. It does great with games like forza 5 and mlb the show which I also like
What settings are you using on your series x and monitor? If I'm playing with response time on normal,fast or faster seems like I'm stuttering all the time. Seems like it plays better when response time is turned off. Any suggestions would be helpful or maybe I just leave it off? I have wired connection BTW
@@-The-Golden-God- And I've had the same happen with LG monitors and LG flat out denied any help once it began failing a month after the short warranty. In other words, STFU and stop bashing sh-t just because of the name.
Great review; as always ! Could you please tell us the settings you ended up with after calibration ? Just bought it and I went 44-44-46 RGB, between 25-30 brightness, Gamer mode 1, fast response time....What about you guys ?
Great review as always Tim! I was searching for this monitor but i cant find it on the european market at all. What are the differences between this one ("LG 27GP83B") and the (identical looking) "LG 27GN800-B" for around 280€ ?
These manufacturers really need to come up with better names for these things... (granted, knowing the letters can help decipher size and color but still)
Best buy had the 32" version on sale for $400. I got it today and I only used it for a little while testing it out and it looks great for my first monitor(using it for console gaming.)
I've been itching to upgrade from my 1080p 75Hz IPS panel to a 1440p one with higher refresh, so this one tempts me slightly, but I've been spoiled by 34 inches of ultrawide real estate.
As soon as I solve the lack-of-space-issue on my desk, I'll pick up this monitor and a second arm to mount it on. That'll be a huge upgrade, since I'm just using a single 75hz 1080p TN panel right now!
The worst thing is that it seems there is quite a variance in quality of those displays. On some reviews the contrast is even around ~750:1 which is really terrible. M27Q is already a very capable and fast monitor that has amazing color range and in which you can correct gamma. Also it completely crushes this LG in contrast while being cheaper. I doubt that the parts in which LG wins are actually noticable in day-to-day usage, even in competitive gaming as M27Q is already really damn good. Blurriness of text can be the issue for some people but in my case i got used to it very quickly, even if ClearType doesn't work in Chrome.
As an M27Q owner, I'm a bit biased, but I absolutely would agree. Minor tweaks in performance and extra bells and whistles, however good they may be, don't make up for such aggressive pricing. I think the LG 27GP83B is solid price-performance... but the M27Q passes the standard for "monitor specs worth buying" at such a low price, there's just not much of a contest. I'll get hype when something gets even better price-perf than Gigabyte's M lineup
@@rayquazahere8529 Well, i don't know about your experience with Gigabyte but as you assumed i never had any issues with them. Hell, even after i accidently killed my reference R9 290 and they sent me a Windforce instead when i RMAd it, it still works to this day. Also regarding M27Q i don't really see any cut corners to be honest. Even the stand is very solid and not wobbly at all. Remember previous bargain leader AOC Q3279VWFD8? The display itself was really good for the money but everything else was terrible. In case of M27Q you even get KVM that actually works really well. But i would definitely never get a PSU from them, that 750W fiasco was absolutely terrible. Good thing that monitors will not explode if they are bad :D
@@rayquazahere8529 I've heard the same, and, trust me, it's likely we _all_ know about the Gigabyte PSU debacle from the past few months. However, there's always the one trapping: there are no "good companies" or "bad companies", only "good products" or "bad products". Gigabyte may generally have more "bad products" or Seasonic may generally have only "good products", but don't mistake that as them being a "bad company" or "good company". Think of Gigabyte however you will (I agree, even!), but in terms of the M27Q as a _product,_ I have absolutely no issues. Only issues I've heard relates to those who are affected by it being a BGR panel instead of RGB, but I saw no difference when reading text.
@@moldyshishkabob Yeah, same with me. I think it makes the most sense to judge the products separately, not based on brand as even "budget" brands sometimes completely knock it out of the park(like Kia with their awesome Stinger).
My only problem with this monitor is the 'OnScreen Control' program provided by LG. You can't change the mode from the shortcut just by right-clicking. You can't add a custom screen mode. You can't add the gaming crosshair from this program. You have to use the button on the monitor. This is a gaming monitor LG, let me do stuff from your app. Other than these problems, this is a really good gaming monitor.
You guys should do reviews on them spectre monitors and compare them to the name brand ones I've had 2 of them and I don't think there to bad honestly and for a pretty dam good price usually. Also they have been getting Better n better with the build quality
not cheap in 3rd world country, not sure if it is because of some retailers creating artificial syndicate , LG & Asus often comes with 60-70% extra mark up from MSRP
This is the number 2 monitor in pcgamers. It has so much good reviews and highly reccommended monitor. Planning to buy one but still wondering if its good for ps4. What do you think.
I just pulled the trigger on this monitor for $315 USD brand new, it was heavily on sale so I might as well give it a shot, can’t wait to hook my TUF 3080 on it
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Literally bought this 20 minutes ago. Time to validate my purchase!
Same got the 32inch version yesterday
I purchased just after checking this video.
wait that's the other way round
Will buy it next week, got full refund on old monitor with warranty, time to upgrade!
What are your thoughts ? I have an older asus gsync TN panel. Looking for an upgrade that won’t break the bank.
Great to see this monitor reviewed, I'm sure many were eyeing it instead of the more expensive GP850.
Hey perfect timing, was just trying to convince a friend to get his first 1440p monitor :)
Lg gl850-b is on sale go for dat
i just bought an Acer Nitro XV272U
@@saplingseedsaccrew3143 yeah snagged that mf er for 350€ new and it doesnt even have any backlight bleed it really is a beast
Dell 2721DGF. Has his higher refresh rate, better quality build (metal rather than cheap plastic), faster response time, oc mode...overall a better monitor.
@@lofej that's a good lower budget monitor and works great. A little caveat though, I just switched to a 32GP850 because "nicer"
for any prospective buyers, the stand is freaking HUGE. I would reccomend going with a monitor stand/mount. They go for like $50 and are absolutely worth it.
Agree, I've got the 32" variant with the same stand - although very solid, it takes up a fair bit of desk space and pushes the monitor out from the back of my desk further than necessary. Cheapo aftermarket stand for the win.
2 years later, just bought this for $229 at best buy for the 27 inch model
I just bought one from Best Buy yesterday too. I'm really liking it, a nice upgrade from my 1080p/60hz monitor
lol me too bro, I just bought it for a 2nd monitor from Best Buy ...I opted for the open box "excellent" for $182. Can't beat it as a 2nd monitor setup at this price range!
I too, how did you get the bleeding from the panel?
gotta love that 165Hz is now "medium refreshrate" sitting here with my 32" 75Hz :D I do have a 144Hz 27" but rarely use it
It's all good. The pixels on the lg are not fast enough to do a true 165hz anyway ( this is the case with most IPS and VA panels). Usually the ideal refreshes around 120-144 depending on model.
Hey, where's the MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD results? How will I know if that's better than the Goldilocks monitor itself?
Didn't Tim already review that monitor?
@@deekay13 hes asking for the comparison
@@deekay13 Yes but I want that monitor results to be compared with the new 1440p monitors he's reviewing.
I have the MSI alphabet soup monitor. I prefer the msi for Swivel and the led backlight is nice for nighttime ambient light. Fast overdrive on the msi is incredibly good and provides backlight strobing that is ideal at 120 and 165hz also the hdr isn’t bad but by no means great. Also there has been a firmware update for MSI which adds 100% Srgb 100% ARGB 98%D3 and those settings have been calibrated from the factory. Also with the firmware update improved the cheat crosshairs which are a joke in stock form. I hope this helps some.
@@nickhubble2838 so my dream monitor still stands tall. Nice
It’s amazing sometimes FAST is a good option to use but sometimes bad according to your in depth reviews, and that is a big eye opener. Also, the fact it would be great if manufacturers would pre-calibrate their monitors properly, as that makes the enjoyment experience out of the box ready to go unless makers could include inbuilt within an option menu a calibration screen for grey scales and colour bars to fine tune it instead at home.
LOL, You'll pay an additional $50 for them to pre calibrate it. Besides, I guarantee that you'll adjust something because your preference isn't the same as someone else. I find that I rarely agree with what the experts say when it comes to color. I like what I like, so I'll adjust it at home.
What happened with MSI MAG274QRF-QD? It was removed from graphs and you didnt even mention it as an alternative? I am looking for a 27" 1440p monitor and was between the GP850 and the MSI, leaning a little towards the MSI model according to your previous videos. I think I would only consider the 83B if it is like 100+ cheaper.
That monitor recently got sRGB mode with the new firmware, hopefully Tim gonna revisit that model.
I just finished commenting the exact same thing, I don't really understand
I have the msi. I returned the lg. the contrast ratio, blacks were better on the msi. And the msi monitor stand can swivel. The lg doesn’t.
@@traaage7782 had the MSI before (VA Panel) but i returned it because i had extrem flickering with FreeSync, i got the GL850 now, works great, i dont notice a bad contrast, the colors are strong and good
@@topgunxxiZ sRGB Mode looks weird, i always boost my colors
I love LG monitors! I have got the LG 32GP850 and it is a really good monitor. I was lucky enough to get it on sale too. I couldn't pass up the deal after seeing your review on it.
Never clicked this fast, even faster than the monitor
Same
What does this phrase mean exactly lol
@@koraptd6085 When you say "mean" do you refer to the sense or to the significance?
@@koraptd6085 it's a disingenuous copy pasta used to get likes and hearts from channels.
Thanks for the review. Just bought it. On sale at Best Buy in Canada this week. $400 CND (~290 US$).
Care to take another look at the MSI MAG274QRF-QD now that it was updated with a real color clamp feature?
I've been dying to see if that improves things, or even if the default color pallet is more accurate too.
I have been looking forward to HB testing these cut-down variants! Thanks a lot Tim :)
I brought this exact monitor back in August on sale at Best Buy for $349. Love this monitor a huge upgrade coming from Asus 24” VG246H. Perfect gaming for my PS5. Tip: upgrade the monitor firmware as soon as you set it up.
Hey man thinking of buying this for my PS5. It's on sale for $430 CAD. You still like the monitor. How's the resolution and brightness?
@@swagger3550 this monitor is worth the investment. I’m very happy with my purchase. The is Resolution 2560 X 1440 and it can get really bright but I currently have it at 47 brightness. Currently playing Battlefield 2042 on it and it’s worth it while using on my PS5 and also for PC.
@@BuGGy2DaB does it downscale 4K to 1440p?
Hi, how do you upgrade the firmware? Also, do you get 120 hz 1440p with this monitor on the ps5?
Went with the Gigabyte M27Q and I love it. Even with the BGR panel, with proper setting, text looks great also, hard to sometimes tell the difference when side by side with an RGB panel.
Same here
Soon Here, It seems legit the best all-rounder for that price. will make a dual setup with it
How is the screen with you, did you encounter any problems?
The screen is great, I just had to turn down the brightness on mine to about 75 or so, same with contrast, otherwise text on bright webpages is barely visible, at least to me - but man, everything pops on this monitor, compared to the TN panel I had.
@davidoswald5749 so I would ask you about monitor asus vg27aq 2k... he is good for 4070ti and i7 13th? ...
I bought this recently as my first 1440p monitor glad to hear it holds up
Good choice.
@nomasporfavor I will worry about this after I have a card capable of gaming at 1440p 144hz :D
@@jarzz3601 A 3070 and a 5600x should be well suited for that right?
@@impastaman4826 yeah
Any tips on calibrating the monitor settings?
Can you maybe also review the 27GN800? It would be nice to see how the very low cost 1440p models stack up.
Just followed the Amazon link and grabbed the LG 27GL83 on sale for 279.99. Great deal on a solid monitor - your review convinced me to pull the trigger.
Thanks for another great review! This channel is quickly becoming my go-to whenever shopping for monitors.
I found a good deal with this monitor for $399 CAD (about $295 USD), which comes out to about $330 USD after taxes. Here's to hoping the poor contrast won't be a problem!
How is the monitor?
@@s16non Loving it so far, no complaints at all. It holds up very well in my opinion even while standing next to a professional grade ProArt display. Going from a 60hz refresh rate monitor to this one is also huge for my gaming performance.
Oh hey - you finally got around to reviewing the monitor I bought over the summer! 😄 I've been happy with it - especially for the price.
Man I love these monitor reviews, an absolute trove of info!
Sounds like this could be a good budget oriented upgrade for those of us who are still gaming on 1080p screens.
I payed $140 for each of my 1080p monitors... there's no way I'm spending $350 for a single monitor.
@@taq154 I'm very happy that i did it.
@@taq154 mind sharing the link of that monitor
Exactly what I need
@@taq154 it's definitely worth it imo. I'm a broke college student that got my first high refresh 1440p IPS monitor from a 1080p TN 60hz panel and HOLY SHIT.....😭
Hi i would like to ask why you dont add MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD to compare
I just bought this on a huge sale at Best Buy. Let you know what’s up and if it’s still relevant in 2023.
How is it?
@@Maplesea06 it’s great I love it so far. Make sure you use the display cable in order to get your 165 hz. But overall a fantastic monitor :)
I've been watching some monitor reviews the past days and I'm still confused regarding colour gamut. From what I understand most applications which aren't content creation only use the standard sRGB colour range, correct? So is there any use for a high gamut monitor in everyday browsing and gaming or does it make more sense to buy a monitor based on the quality of the included SDR mode? I remember that some monitors lock down almost all settings in this mode while others can be configured more freely.
Yes the sRGB mode is one of the most important things if you do value accurate colours for gaming or any other content consumption. You can get around it with ICC profiles and using borderless window modes but yeah, fullscreen exclusive is almost always the preferable option. So I guess having crappy sRGB mode doesn't really matter if you primarily play competitive / e-sports or if you simply like the more contrasty oversatured look of content, it's especially becoming more important now as even average screens have pretty high gamut.
@@Nikelangelo So is the same, better than the Dell SG2721 monitor?
Can avoid this problem by buying the 27gl83a. It might be slightly less responsive than the "nano" but it has the normal color gamut, and still rated as a fast monitor
@@mckinzie4934 same want to know
@@jackbootshamangaming4541 This monitor isn't available in my region
I’ve had this for about a year. Grabbed it at a deep discount. Moving to a 4k and this will be my secondary. Overall, happy with it for the money.
Oh man this makes me really regret getting the GP850. Oh well at least the USB ports at the back are actually quite useful to me since I use a webcam and mic which don’t have very long cables
The 83 was the better option since the GL,you should've seen this coming.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 I did some research about the GL850 and I’m fairly sure the 83 for that Gen as well, but it had worse colour accuracy and so I dismissed it. As for the GP83, I’m quite certain it wasn’t available when I purchased the GP850.
I haven’t seen many people do a review of the HP Omen 27i. Would you be able to do one on it? I’m very curious as to what you have to say about it.
Hi, I cannot find this monitor anywhere, not even on LG's own website. There is only a 27GL83A-B
Can you maybe make a video explaining LGs naming and if they are year related. I always get confused, there are the GN, GL , GP models but there is no clear distinction.
Every year they increase and skip a letter. GL is 2019, GN is 2020, GP is 2021 models.
It’s available at Best Buy
@@HCGonzalezJr87 basically they are almost the same
@@BuGGy2DaB Well i am from europe, and i cannot find a distributor with stock.
@@selectthedead Bit more patience, will come within the next 1-2 months.
Another year, another 850/83 combo 😊 I played the game last year of getting the GL83A at a reasonable price then, in August this year, getting a GL850 cheaper than I'd paid for the 83A due to the newer 165hz models coming out. Give it a couple of years and I'll probably be playing this game with the 4k/144hz (or whatever is current) models
I understand that the GL 83a has a normal color gamut as opposed to the wide gamut of the 850. Some like this and some do not. What are your experiences with the responsiveness between the two? Supposedly the nano is slightly faster than the GL. Is it noticeable to your eye or only in tests?
Current gl83a owner and OCD monitor buyer 😎
Good review as always. I still hope you will review the new Xiaomi 27 2k 165Hz monitor also.
literally picked this up for 350 at best buy this weekend
I bought the 32 inch version of this monitor Real happy with it!
got one used a year ago for 150, and I'm extremely happy with it! I love the piece of mind that lcd displays provide with no burn in. The display will allow manual overclocking up to 175 Hz before it says "out of range" too!
This isnt LCD display though. Its led
@@mikebluee LED displays are lcd. They just use an LED backlight instead of the fluorescent backlights the old LCD's used to use. Hope this helps
@alexfischer9493 oh thanks. I'm still learning about computers
@@mikebluee happy to help 👍
I found this monitor priced at $350 thanks for the great review! No real reason to buy the more expensive version thank you def the best monitor reviewer
The 850 has the RGB in the back tho 😅 that’s worth a thousand dollars
Hey, I need help to decide which monitor to buy in black Friday, the LG 27gp83b or the msi mag274qrf-qd(in my region there is no LG 27gp850b yet unfortunately) I can afford both just need to pick one, it's mostly for gaming on my PC and my PS5.
Thanks for the help 🙂.
Which ever is cheaper, tbh
Would you please do a monitor calibration tutorial? Most monitors are not properly calibrated and a decent tutorial vid on how to do it would be very much appreciated.
they already have one
While @bananya is right, that vid he is speaking of is more of an overview. The problem is that monitor HW calibration falls into two separate fields (manual + MK I eyeball vs hardware assisted).
You can use EIZO monitor test and MK I eyeball (those differ frrom person to person) to tame cheap displays and horrible factory settings to OK settings for everyday use by Joe Avg, that 's still a far cry from a proper HW calibrration. Looks nice ≠ accurate.
And hardware calibration is a can of worms in itself. Different hardware devices and different software probably also will differ.
Personally I ve a Datacolor Spyder 5 (device that cost me 130€ used with a full licence) and I could clearly see the difference in the 3 monitors I used it so far between factory (usually utter garbage - oversatured, especially skin tones - Trumps everywhere - or cold blue picture). The difference between my manual calibration and the HW assisted was much less, though notable .
And than comes the problem with variantion between individual units ... sadly there isn't any decent test/review in that field.
After watching and reading a bunch of different reviews about 1440p 144Hz budget monitors, I finally settled on the LG 27GL83A-B thanks to your review. The monitor currently sells for $299.99 USD on Amazon, which makes it a tremendous value. Anyway, thanks again.
269 now
@@121Stefany Shortly after my original post, I bought the 32-inch version for $229.99 USD at Costco. I returned the 27-inch model unopened to Amazon.
How many variants of the same panel do they wanna do? I got them all, and to be honest the oldest one (GL850) still has the best anti-glare coating (good reduction of reflections, whilst not making the image grainy) and otherwise absolutely identical behavior, except for the few hz overclocked refresh rate, where 144 is really enough already.
I recently (early September) bought a 2nd GL850 on sale and was shocked at how poor the factory color calibration was, it has an extreme yellow tint and overall dullness compared to the GL850 I bought in 2019 when it was new. I guess I got what I payed for since it was on sale for under 350 USD.
I got Dell S2721DGF on a big discount and I'm very happy with it. I also won the backlight and dead pixels lottery with that Dell so that makes it even sweeter purchase. This seems like a similar monitor (considering they use the same panel) but it is more expensive than Dell so no regrets on my side.
i’ve tried both, the LG is just better IMO. Just looks better
I’ve been waiting for this for forever thank you
One thing practically all these reviews miss is the variable refresh rate min threshold. True G-sync is 1-max Hz. G-sync compatible usually varies from 30-60 Hz. This one is 60 hz. You generally want that to be as low as possible.
Is it better on the GP850?
Hi Tim! Great video as always. Would it be possible for you to review the Lenovo G27Q-20 and/or HP X27i? Both displays have 1440p high refresh rate panels and at US$300, the monitors are pretty appealing entry-level options.
LG 32GP850 minimum 67 nits? No wonder my eyes are burning at night. Still a wonderful monitor that i got for cheaper than the 27" ver and the MSI&Gigabyte monitors.
welcome to 2021 where 165Hz is just "Medium" refresh rate now
with 240 and 360 hz monitors, yeah pretty much
Kinda weird, considering you actually have to own a GPU that can push 165+ fps at 1440p.
For your average AAA title like CoD or BF, you'd need a high end GPU to output these frames at good visual quality.
@@levoGAMES Not at all even my rx 6800 can do 144fps at 3440*1440 ultrawide in warzone
tell me about it. my Acer x34 with its 100hz (this is the original model, not the refreshed one that can go to 180hz), starting to show its age, when a "value" monitor is better in every single way...
it's a strange term that i've only heard tim use, but he's technically right
I've been waiting to see your tests on this one thank you 😊
I don’t understand why I can’t find this monitor anywhere. No sight of it on Amazon at all
Please please please, review the new 34GP950G! I'm waiting for your review to buy it! I cannot buy a monitor without your approval.
Another great review! I'd love to see you guys review the Lenovo G27Q-20 :D
I have this monitor and it's really good for the price :). How much is it going for, where you live? Honestly if you want to cheap 1440p monitor just go for it. I have no complains, besides the typical minor light bleed around corners in dark scenes especially if my room is dark, but it's very typical for ips monitors and ofc you can always return it if you dont like.
Why have your results changed on the s2721dgf since a year ago? Did you review another sample or change your testing methods? Average gray to gray went from 3.96ms and 10.5% now to 5.54 and 18%. Also total input lag went from 6.9 to 8.9ms
Ok since no one has chimed in I did some research to find out why the change. At the beginning of this year Hardware Unboxed changed its testing methods to have a larger percentage of the overall response time of each transition. They had a video on this at the beginning of the year I guess I missed that one. A good video if you like to need out on how monitors are tested and how they have improved there testing methodology. All monitors had an increase with no real change in placement on the charts.
The 850 one is on sale for 399 at best buy right now. I bought one for that price last time it was on sale a few months ago, might just cop a second one right now
Interesting note, the previously reviewed MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD, not on these lists, has fallen in price to around $420us, and the non QD model is down to $380-$400. May possibly be a better choice.
@nomasporfavor Australia, but yes. He usually prices them in USD and AUD.
Huh?
I got this over the 850b. Both are around $300 right now. But it's a little harder to find the 850b over the 835b.
I was hesitant for a few reasons, the picture quality from the 850b i owned were wonderful. Also, the red on the front of the stand shows.. not a big fan of red
I recently upgraded from a 1080p TV to the 27GL83A and absolutely love it
Cool
The monitors you review are rarely ever listed for sale anywhere. Take this one for example....no listing on Amazon even with your link. The only one listed is LG 32GP850-B. Nothing on Amazon, nothing on Newegg.
Yup, it's definitely not sold here in the UK.
LG is doing great. Love my LG27GN850
I brought the bigger brother 27GP850, for 450 dollars it is a great value, would've brought the 4K GP950 but that is unobtainium and double the price.
Nice review. As others have mentioned, I kept looking for the MSI MAG274QRF -QD in the comparisons.
I just bought the 32inch version would love to see you guys review that
32gp83b
I am literally in love with this monitor, initially I had a TN panel, went to a VA panel with nice visuals but the black smearing and what looked like blur in dark areas was far too distracting, like I couldn't stop fixating on the problem areas, and so I returned that and picked this baby up and WOW - seems pretty close to VA, at least for me, without any of the problems, AT ALL, if you are thinking about getting this monitor, don't - if you can afford it, pick it up, you will not regret it.
As opposed to figuratively?
Facts, This monitor is sick for what it can do and its a nano ips which he didnt mentioned but the VA black smearing can be extremely annoying and to the colors on TN and VA look off after looking at a ips panel.
For gaming and photoshop, IPS is the way to go
Thank you I love mine went 27inch for my PC and series X . Great info much appreciated
Are you going to review the 24G2ZU/ZE ?
Awesome review btw !
Picked up this monitor on sale for $229 USD. Compared to other offerings in my budget (sub $300), this seemed like the best option.
While I do typically play games in darker settings, I haven't really noticed the low contrast being an issue. It's possible that later units are hitting better contrast numbers. However, I do primarily use to play FPS titles like R6 Siege or Valorant, making the response times perfect for this.
Well, 2 months ago I did bite the bullet and bought ViewSonic VX2758-2KP-MHD Gaming. It was on sale as well, bought it for some 270 EUR and yeah, money was big concern for me. I do think it's solid choice in the budget cathegory and obviously HW unboxed thought as well. EDIT: Love the height adjustibility of this LG monitor! Wish my ViewSonice had that too. My only gripe so far.
Aside from their media relations snafu, LG has absolutely killed it this year. Between delivering an exceptional product for every budget and actually having stock for their products, there's not really any holes in their lineups, aside from the 42 inch OLED not existing yet.
Well, it's officially coming this year!
I would love to see reviews of Dell monitors, your monitor reviews are my favorite 😁
Picked up the 32” today at Best Buy for $350! Haven’t really messed with the color settings yet, but so far I’m pretty happy with it. If anybody had recommended color adjustments/settings, I would definitely appreciate it.
I just bought this today, VA smearing is driving me nuts on my Asus with the same specs. Do you notice any blur or smearing on the LG?
@@alexandermeade4687Este monitor es panel IPS, el VA es algo menos bueno por eso que mencionas de las manchas
@@alexandermeade4687 No, Its a ips panel which theres no va smearing and the response times is extremely quick even @ 60hz
Awesome job as ever, Love your content. I have been thinking about this for quite some time and finally am asking it. Why do you not show how colour calibration of a monitor is/should be done? A tutorial perhaps for the curious among us to have a better understanding and for the few who are lucky to get their hands on hardware to calibrate the monitor. Thank you.
I believe they have done a tutorial on it a year or two ago, try looking it up on their channel.
@@ThomasS17 Thank you...
man i cant wait to see a video on the AG274QXM when it releases
Highly recommend this if you like FPS games like cod. Been great with my series x and was a huge upgrade. Cod at 120 frames is a huge difference. It does great with games like forza 5 and mlb the show which I also like
if it does well in cod or forza, you think it would do well for flight arcade games like ace combat or project wingman?
What settings are you using on your series x and monitor? If I'm playing with response time on normal,fast or faster seems like I'm stuttering all the time. Seems like it plays better when response time is turned off. Any suggestions would be helpful or maybe I just leave it off? I have wired connection BTW
@@evanosowski5274put it on fast and turn on variable refresh rate on the xbox
Bought the 32in last night. Really glad to see this!!!
Can you take a look at the Benq EX2780Q? there is not much good content out there for that monitor
$450 isnt affordable lol. Sub $200 is affordable. $200-$400 is mid range.
Excellent review Tim.😊🎉
Great review. Thanks for providing the info that helps us buy the best for our money. ❤️
Bought a 83b back shortly after release, have been very pleased with it, especially for the price I got it for at the time.
Good.
Can you please review the Acer Predator XB273U GXbmiipruzx, wondering why there aren't any Acer monitors on these charts that we value so much.
Because he doesn't want to pronounce GXbmiipruzx )))))
I had one of these monitors. It completely died days after the warranty ended. I wouldn't touch Acer monitors.
@@-The-Golden-God- That's not my experience with them at all.
@@jggg31 Well I googled it at the time and there were plenty of people who had issues with them. At the end of the day, the risk is yours to take.
@@-The-Golden-God- And I've had the same happen with LG monitors and LG flat out denied any help once it began failing a month after the short warranty. In other words, STFU and stop bashing sh-t just because of the name.
Great review; as always ! Could you please tell us the settings you ended up with after calibration ? Just bought it and I went 44-44-46 RGB, between 25-30 brightness, Gamer mode 1, fast response time....What about you guys ?
Great review as always Tim!
I was searching for this monitor but i cant find it on the european market at all.
What are the differences between this one ("LG 27GP83B") and the (identical looking) "LG 27GN800-B" for around 280€ ?
These manufacturers really need to come up with better names for these things... (granted, knowing the letters can help decipher size and color but still)
Just got this today for my series x, on sale here in Sweden for $300! 👌 Amazing!
Picked this monitor up today. So far it has exceeded my expectations in every way.
Best buy had the 32" version on sale for $400. I got it today and I only used it for a little while testing it out and it looks great for my first monitor(using it for console gaming.)
Tried it today, I could not complain. Colors look nice btw.
using 32" model of this monitor, its awesome.
I've been itching to upgrade from my 1080p 75Hz IPS panel to a 1440p one with higher refresh, so this one tempts me slightly, but I've been spoiled by 34 inches of ultrawide real estate.
did you upgrade
there is a 32 inches version of this monitor which is not much more expensive
As soon as I solve the lack-of-space-issue on my desk, I'll pick up this monitor and a second arm to mount it on. That'll be a huge upgrade, since I'm just using a single 75hz 1080p TN panel right now!
Fantastic video as usual. I actually just purchased this monitor from best buy for under $300!
How’s it going with you?
This or Dell 2721DGF? :/
The worst thing is that it seems there is quite a variance in quality of those displays. On some reviews the contrast is even around ~750:1 which is really terrible.
M27Q is already a very capable and fast monitor that has amazing color range and in which you can correct gamma. Also it completely crushes this LG in contrast while being cheaper.
I doubt that the parts in which LG wins are actually noticable in day-to-day usage, even in competitive gaming as M27Q is already really damn good.
Blurriness of text can be the issue for some people but in my case i got used to it very quickly, even if ClearType doesn't work in Chrome.
As an M27Q owner, I'm a bit biased, but I absolutely would agree. Minor tweaks in performance and extra bells and whistles, however good they may be, don't make up for such aggressive pricing. I think the LG 27GP83B is solid price-performance... but the M27Q passes the standard for "monitor specs worth buying" at such a low price, there's just not much of a contest.
I'll get hype when something gets even better price-perf than Gigabyte's M lineup
@@rayquazahere8529 Well, i don't know about your experience with Gigabyte but as you assumed i never had any issues with them. Hell, even after i accidently killed my reference R9 290 and they sent me a Windforce instead when i RMAd it, it still works to this day. Also regarding M27Q i don't really see any cut corners to be honest.
Even the stand is very solid and not wobbly at all. Remember previous bargain leader AOC Q3279VWFD8? The display itself was really good for the money but everything else was terrible.
In case of M27Q you even get KVM that actually works really well.
But i would definitely never get a PSU from them, that 750W fiasco was absolutely terrible. Good thing that monitors will not explode if they are bad :D
@@rayquazahere8529 I've heard the same, and, trust me, it's likely we _all_ know about the Gigabyte PSU debacle from the past few months.
However, there's always the one trapping: there are no "good companies" or "bad companies", only "good products" or "bad products".
Gigabyte may generally have more "bad products" or Seasonic may generally have only "good products", but don't mistake that as them being a "bad company" or "good company".
Think of Gigabyte however you will (I agree, even!), but in terms of the M27Q as a _product,_ I have absolutely no issues. Only issues I've heard relates to those who are affected by it being a BGR panel instead of RGB, but I saw no difference when reading text.
@@moldyshishkabob Yeah, same with me. I think it makes the most sense to judge the products separately, not based on brand as even "budget" brands sometimes completely knock it out of the park(like Kia with their awesome Stinger).
My only problem with this monitor is the 'OnScreen Control' program provided by LG.
You can't change the mode from the shortcut just by right-clicking. You can't add a custom screen mode. You can't add the gaming crosshair from this program.
You have to use the button on the monitor. This is a gaming monitor LG, let me do stuff from your app. Other than these problems, this is a really good gaming monitor.
You guys should do reviews on them spectre monitors and compare them to the name brand ones I've had 2 of them and I don't think there to bad honestly and for a pretty dam good price usually. Also they have been getting Better n better with the build quality
not cheap in 3rd world country, not sure if it is because of some retailers creating artificial syndicate , LG & Asus often comes with 60-70% extra mark up from MSRP
This is the number 2 monitor in pcgamers. It has so much good reviews and highly reccommended monitor. Planning to buy one but still wondering if its good for ps4. What do you think.
I just pulled the trigger on this monitor for $315 USD brand new, it was heavily on sale so I might as well give it a shot, can’t wait to hook my TUF 3080 on it
thank you for this good review! I just also want to ask if LG UltraGear 32GP83B-B is also good to buy between gigabyte GIGABYTE M32Q?
Literally asked if this monitor was worth buying in the discord this morning! And I bought it prior to this review... So glad it's not a dud!
Just bought this over the weekend
Would you guys review benq xl2546k w/ DyAc+? Thanks. :)
Thanks for the review, got it for 279 from the Black Friday deal... no brainer obviously, lucky me