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  • @Urboyfromfuture
    @Urboyfromfuture ปีที่แล้ว +4604

    Making custom tech is the best thing we can do for ourselves. I've made few for myself and it's totally worth it.

    • @Carbon952
      @Carbon952 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Well, only if one had the creative IQ or aptitude like his to design one's own tech ..

    • @zadsazhad
      @zadsazhad ปีที่แล้ว +90

      ​@@Carbon952u can start ur own with a custom keyboard, slowly doing other stuffs

    • @slamoto2
      @slamoto2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      One good thing about it is that you are most likely going to repair it instead of trashing it. Good for you wallet as well.

    • @Carbon952
      @Carbon952 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@zadsazhadIt does sound really exciting!!! To design, create and bring to life one's creativity
      But more often that not, I feel like I lack the creativity to repair or actually create something 😅

    • @Carbon952
      @Carbon952 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@slamoto2Exactly!! Numerous advantages

  • @TheeGrandmaster
    @TheeGrandmaster ปีที่แล้ว +1575

    Saying "I won't release it because I don't think you can print it" is such a cop out. There are plenty of people who will be capable of printing it to a standard they are happy with, or perhaps even exceeding what you're getting 3rd party. If you want to monitize it just say so and do so. This is the same logic apple uses for anti right to repair rhetoric.

    • @domnik9062
      @domnik9062 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      Totally agree, he could still share the .stl with people who are interested. 70 bucks is just ridiculous. Seems to be like a greedy TH-camr as everyone else

    • @RsVs2304
      @RsVs2304 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I second this, I would not buy this as it is as I would like to add a much steeper tilt to the design.

    • @SatyricL
      @SatyricL ปีที่แล้ว +86

      While I dont disagree, I took it more as "I dont want people doing bad print jobs and have it effect perception of the design", which is a fair reason when you attach your name to a product.
      That said, wont comment on the price given its a mod kit and not an actual full mouse... 😂

    • @riveronnnn
      @riveronnnn ปีที่แล้ว +68

      ​@@SatyricLthat's apple logic, and completely bollocks

    • @mariohernandez1111
      @mariohernandez1111 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Also, this is SLS nylon. It's the cheapest printing technology and material you can get on any additive manufacturing supplier. It's good quality, yes, but also cheap. Seeing the size and material use of this, I estimate the cost in QTY 1 to be around 8-10$. Nothing a hobbyist can't afford.

  • @qo7ems
    @qo7ems ปีที่แล้ว +1731

    Unfortunately I love my side buttons too much but holy grail of damn this is a solid upgrade kit for anyone trying to take it to the next level

    • @kotztotz3530
      @kotztotz3530 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Agreed. I personally rather have a 3 or 4 side buttons and 50-60 grams. I'd love to make my own mouse someday, but it sounds like way too much work for what it's worth lol.

    • @SupportNoob
      @SupportNoob ปีที่แล้ว +183

      side buttons > any amount of weight savings, side buttons are underrated

    • @tomppeli.
      @tomppeli. ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Oh, right that as well
      Even sacrificing the DPI button when I got the Superlight is a bit of a bummer

    • @darealrulezbreaker9493
      @darealrulezbreaker9493 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I would LOVE to try a mouse that has the sensor in between the fingertips.. so basically under the scrollwheel or close to it. That way you could (after getting used to it) actually aim with your fingertips

    • @Drinkyoghurt
      @Drinkyoghurt ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I use my side buttons in apex for my Q and ultimate ability, not having them would seriously impact my gaming since I fat fingered the original keybinds.@@SupportNoob

  • @MRX-ff4vy
    @MRX-ff4vy ปีที่แล้ว +723

    You could make it even lighter with using the topology optimization function in Fusion360, while at least preserving the stability, even improving it in the best case. It will also give it a more organic look :)

    • @SalmoneTattico
      @SalmoneTattico ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that would be so cool!

    • @Tampsey
      @Tampsey ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you could make it even lighter and publish improved files. you seem knowledgeable with these kind of things.

    • @MRX-ff4vy
      @MRX-ff4vy ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Tampsey I’ve never worked with fusion but saw lots of videos where people optimized structures. Smelling a bit of irony here, it was just a recommendation because he obviously aims for the lightest mouse possible.

    • @eeeeeek
      @eeeeeek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Tampsey if the 3d files are released that is

    • @robonator2945
      @robonator2945 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      while that would probably work on it's own there are two (sort of 3) reasons that I doubt it'd work smoothly with what he has
      1 : he already has majorly skeletonized the design. Topology optimization is typicailly given a frame-body shape to start with and cuts away material, does a simulation of various loads, cuts away or re-adds more material, lather rinse and repeat. Since already has skeletonized it to the max though it wouldn't have as much freedom and likely couldn't make much progress
      2 : the body of the mouse is also a mechanical component, bending to actuate the switches. While this could likely be modeled somewhat via top. opt. the body of the mouse *_also_* affecting the characteristics of the click could cause issues
      3 : I think the far bigger optimization is integrating 3 dimensional support structures. As it stands the mouse is straight walled which, while simple, isn't nearly as stiff as it could be. You could cut away a good bit more of the material and keep the same stiffness if you used angled internal struts to support the walls and stop them from bending inwards directly rather than just relying on material stiffness. In theory I think topology optimization *_could_* do this, but I've rarely seen it ever used in 3 dimensions like that, I'd wager just because it increases the mathematical complexity significantly. Working in 3 dimensions is quite literally infinitely harder than working in two, and I imagine that practically speaking it's just not really viable for most projects compared to designing the struts by hand.

  • @SketchyGameDev
    @SketchyGameDev ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Seeing people making their own tech is always awesome, I definitely have a different preference for a good mouse, but the fact that making something this specific and bespoke is even possible is so cool

    • @rogerelzenga4465
      @rogerelzenga4465 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not satisfied? make it yourself! :P

    • @SketchyGameDev
      @SketchyGameDev ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogerelzenga4465 didn’t say I wasn’t satisfied, don’t have a 3D printer, already have a mouse I like

    • @TropicalCyc
      @TropicalCyc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      though not sharing the stl files just because you’d think people wont be able to print it is kinda shitty in my opinion.

  • @Hyydrotoo
    @Hyydrotoo ปีที่แล้ว +546

    I don't even care if this is necessarily "the best mouse ever", the amount of effort and innovation that went into this is amazing. Plus, this looks incredibly refined - keep it up! Can't wait to see where the Zeromouse "brand" will be in a few years.

    • @ericinc1
      @ericinc1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      perhaps a zero keyboard to match the skeleton aesthetic

    • @IMthebiggestboy
      @IMthebiggestboy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ericinc1the whole point of the zero mouse is it’s light, which does not matter in the slightest for a keyboard

  • @PointingLasersAtAircraft
    @PointingLasersAtAircraft ปีที่แล้ว +418

    Add radii to the sharp edges to make the part more print friendly. 3D printers often have difficulty with sharp edges. This will also make the part more ergonomic. Also add fillets to internal sharp corners that will be flexed, as these are potential points of failure.

    • @krautergarten4529
      @krautergarten4529 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The main advantage 3D printing offers is strengh by structure which would not be possible with injection molding or machining. You should utilize that in your design. Perhabs review some mousewheel options, it's a little bit high above the trigger buttons. Really nice start though.

    • @faisalalsharaf5823
      @faisalalsharaf5823 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@krautergarten4529 "3D printing offers strength by structure"??
      Surely injection molded parts are significantly stronger than 3d prints. The layer lines make the part weaker compared to an injection mold where it's mostly a perfect blob of plastic.

    • @krautergarten4529
      @krautergarten4529 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@faisalalsharaf5823 Ur are right, we use Additive Manufacturing in aerospace to make weaker parts. 🤦‍♂️ Try to injection mold a cube with 20% infill. 😂

    • @wilville3752
      @wilville3752 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@faisalalsharaf5823he means strength because you can do more complex structures not because of its integrity as a material

    • @krautergarten4529
      @krautergarten4529 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Designs for 3D printing can be much more optimize for specific strengh (strengh per weight). Exactly the goal of this mouse design.

  • @SHINYAFRONINJA
    @SHINYAFRONINJA ปีที่แล้ว +642

    a version with side buttons would be perfect

    • @clicknchill.
      @clicknchill. ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Just buy an hsk pro ace or 4k

    • @TheRodoeht
      @TheRodoeht ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​@@clicknchill.Yeah I have the HSK Pro and I love it. It still blows my mind that he hasn't reviewed it yet, because it's literally what he wished for when starting this custom mice journey.

    • @clicknchill.
      @clicknchill. ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@TheRodoeht he said that when he tried the og hsk plus it felt like shit so he don't want to try other gwolves mouse again

    • @thenewjupiter
      @thenewjupiter ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I would love one with at least left side buttons because those buttons are very important binds for me in games.

    • @femboyliquidz
      @femboyliquidz ปีที่แล้ว +10

      true i cant play without 2 side buttons so a version with them would be the goat

  • @z33d6
    @z33d6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    4:30 I've spent over 10y in advertising but this is by far the sickest and most stealthy way to pull an advertising video. Kudos for the amount of work put into that effort.

    • @z33d6
      @z33d6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      7:55 "I kind of just wanna learn new stuff, challange myself, improve, and also just makes things betta" -- that's kinf of elaborate way to suy "I just want to make money"

    • @nooptiui
      @nooptiui 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@z33d6wow, lots of projection here

    • @nooptiui
      @nooptiui หลายเดือนก่อน

      he's not sponsored tho

    • @z33d6
      @z33d6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nooptiui wdym he's not sponsored? it's his own product

    • @nooptiui
      @nooptiui หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@z33d6 sorry, i thought you were saying that he was advertising the printing company

  • @cooki3onfire
    @cooki3onfire ปีที่แล้ว +571

    this mans is a legend. He's buff, he's smart, he's creative and he loves his fanbase. Now this is content
    edit: i forgot to say he's also a good gamer, def better than other tech reviewers.

    • @julieniscute
      @julieniscute ปีที่แล้ว +52

      why you just glazing him

    • @Xm0ur3r
      @Xm0ur3r ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He literally explained that, did you not read?@@julieniscute

    • @leehart5919
      @leehart5919 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​@@Xm0ur3rsimp detected 🤓

    • @uhqliss8537
      @uhqliss8537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who's buff? 💀

    • @Hakaisuuu
      @Hakaisuuu ปีที่แล้ว +13

      glazing at its finest

  • @Scoolymatic
    @Scoolymatic ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I’ve been literally preparing for this mouse with buying the viper v2 pro and and using it ever since with the fingertip grip, just so i can get adjusted to this shell you made, thank you so much Optimum

  • @draxxx_exe
    @draxxx_exe ปีที่แล้ว +555

    Optimum continues to set the bar for tech videos. He’s truly talented and the quality of his work and videos are unmatched.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And the bot network expands, you bots do not have emails to spam instead?

    • @draxxx_exe
      @draxxx_exe ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@SMGJohn tf are you on bruh 😂

    • @fluphybunny930
      @fluphybunny930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      bot

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@draxxx_exe
      Rather ironic how you ChatGPT bots cannot reply any differently, you literally say the same thing the previous bot did.

    • @draxxx_exe
      @draxxx_exe ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@SMGJohn you okay? You sound paranoid. It’s gonna be alright dude, get off the internet for a min it might do you some good.

  • @GuerraMartin
    @GuerraMartin ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Looking forward for Zeromouse to grow. From gamers to gamers, thanks for the effort

    • @abekatten
      @abekatten ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We need a lefty-tilted version too!!! Don't forget the lefties!

    • @fluphybunny930
      @fluphybunny930 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunate that the zeromouse name has already been used.

    • @theshanamaster
      @theshanamaster ปีที่แล้ว

      have you not been on youtube for very long? lmao dudes already grown and continues to, he's nowhere mr beast levels but have some respect lol

  • @celsior99
    @celsior99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine coming home after a long day at work to relax with a game of Overwatch, and on the other team is a jacked australian with a 20 gram custom made mouse, 500hz monitor, and custom made supercooled 4090 pc

  • @Kereod
    @Kereod ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Personally, I think it's a shame that it's not available as paid files. I'd be interested in trying it, and don't mind if it requires several attempts to print it correctly. And again, ergonomic is personal, so it would be nice to play with size and angles, I think

    • @Crecross
      @Crecross ปีที่แล้ว

      All that to still be gargar at the game

    • @lowfade556
      @lowfade556 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Crecross literally

  • @pgsnider2000
    @pgsnider2000 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    if you make them with the 2 sidebuttons im ready for the "shut up and take my money" moment

    • @HeyNavi
      @HeyNavi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Believe me, before I moved to a fingertip mouse, I didn’t want to leave side buttons. But once you try a mouse like this, you will experience first hand why most true finger tip mice have no side buttons. I’ve even tried replicating pressing the side buttons with my pcbr 8k and you lose control and your grip the second you life your thumb off. Of course there’s the occasional web browsing which I could see it being useful in that regard but in games, which most mice like this prioritize performance over versatility, it negatively affects your performance.

  • @yasins8713
    @yasins8713 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Ive been subbed since 80k subs and its crazy how much better you got at cinematography, making videos, editing, testing products with literal arduinos, ur honestly the most straightforward unbiased tech youtuber out there. its crazy to think that your designing your own products now, keep it up man

    • @まいちゃんねる-k6j
      @まいちゃんねる-k6j ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i love reading purchased comments

    • @velzun8075
      @velzun8075 ปีที่แล้ว

      you're* designing

    • @yasins8713
      @yasins8713 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@velzun8075 no i spell it differntly cuz i want to

  • @CheeseJuggernaut
    @CheeseJuggernaut ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This is the type of passion project that can shake up industries. Cant wait to see how far this goes, and how other peripheral brands respond!

  • @EllaBananas
    @EllaBananas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yknow, up until recently I was of the opinion that a nice mouse for me should have reassuring weight, and a cable so I dont have to worry about charging or dealing with batteries.
    Recently Ive been working to improve my control in games, and suddenly my opinion has flipped so hard I can scarcely believe I thought that way before.

  • @shardis
    @shardis ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In the interest of not encouraging waste... get shipped from signapor to wherever packaged, add packaging, ship again to customers... all to prevent what looks like 5 grams of plastic from being used. Also of note these look like a much easier print with a different style of printer than he is using called fdm. It would produce less waste, and use materials that are easier to recycle (although in most cases that infrastructure is still missing).

  • @Twistshock
    @Twistshock ปีที่แล้ว +241

    I'd still love to see the 3D model and .STLs released after some time, so others can iterate on it, and perhaps customize it to their liking.

    • @AVINIDE
      @AVINIDE ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I second that, with a very big disclaimer saying this model has very tight tolerances etc.

    • @kriskrisminer
      @kriskrisminer ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yea like for me side buttons, i use them often

    • @jwonyoutube
      @jwonyoutube ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Just so some “reviewer” can say “I printed optimumtech’s diy mouse and it feels clunky and it sucks”, despite Ali saying repeatedly that printing it at home on your $200 3D printer gets you nowhere near the quality required to meet its design specs.

    • @KidHaru
      @KidHaru ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@jwonyoutube Except I'd wager he's wrong. He's using a resin printer. Stiffer. Firmer. Snaps easier. Far fewer material type options. This mouse would be EFFORTLESS on a FDM Printer. All he'd need to do is adjust the side grips to have a 45degree tilt at the front and you can literally print this mouse standing up on it's face without a single support. Or in parts. Yes casting is stronger but for something like this, it's irrelevant. Especially since it'd be about $2 in filament AT MOST and layer weaknesses could be worked out in the design. I do casting, mold making, printing, etc. And while it's good that those without printers can buy his kit, the excuse of quality is largely bs. It's his to do with what he wants though but his excuse rings pretty false.

    • @jwonyoutube
      @jwonyoutube ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@KidHaru Well since you don't buy his explanations, we're looking fwd to your custom 26g mouse mod and 3d files to support your argument

  • @AlleonoriCat
    @AlleonoriCat ปีที่แล้ว +154

    This is not for my style of grip at all, but mad props for making something this specific for your needs and refining it into a solid product! Would be really cool to see what's next for you!

    • @grottoguru6473
      @grottoguru6473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly my thoughts

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You can learn this grip and it is worth it

    • @damianbieniek3926
      @damianbieniek3926 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@riba2233nope, hands and people are different and trust me not a lot of people will agree to change their grip style just for mouse. Also this grip is exhausting for people with big hands, so good luck playing for more than 2 hours.

  • @baitboy3191
    @baitboy3191 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Its awesome how this guy has grown to develop his own gaming mouse, and a very interesting one also.

  • @Nat_1000
    @Nat_1000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lets go dude, finally using your platform to sell your own product. hopefully this is the first product of many!

  • @Hoochibaba
    @Hoochibaba ปีที่แล้ว +2

    honestly nice to watch a tech channel where they aren't dogwater at the games lol

  • @harizt
    @harizt ปีที่แล้ว +13

    from being one of the best mouse reviewers, to making a modkit mouse, to actually will be making your own mouse. Rather than min/max-ing in-game, you're optimizing IRL. Truly live up to the name optimum

  • @iamplayer40
    @iamplayer40 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Just crazy, good work. The effort put into it is astounding. 😯

  • @seventus
    @seventus ปีที่แล้ว +76

    You know it's gonna be gøød when it's got the ø in it, innit.

  • @fkscreennames
    @fkscreennames ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude you’re honestly amazing.

  • @mabakalox2353
    @mabakalox2353 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    “I wont release files because you might not manage to print” is the worst excuse. Just be honest - You want to sell it. Truth is the best move.

    • @jonahcrittendon3708
      @jonahcrittendon3708 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Sucks though because he’s not even really selling it

  • @euphraosStuff
    @euphraosStuff ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The goat. Glad to see you were able to develop your vision all the way to the end for this mouse ! I can't wait to see the next evolution !
    I'll probably do a french review if I can get my hands on it. Well done, as usual Optimum'. 🔥💯

  • @Harrison.DuRant
    @Harrison.DuRant ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This channel is just so much fun to watch. I live vicariously through optimum.

  • @sagars861
    @sagars861 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    what is this guy? mechanical guy?electrian guy?,computer guy?camera guy?editing guy?gamer guy?guide me master

    • @sagars861
      @sagars861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amoeba8888 ya forgot

    • @Natheyy
      @Natheyy ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s him

    • @unexpectedtuxedoguy
      @unexpectedtuxedoguy ปีที่แล้ว

      ^Car guy also
      even johnny sins is embarrassed

  • @Westie1010
    @Westie1010 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Whilst I understand why you mentioned the difficulty of the print. I still think you should of provided the ability to pay to download the 3D files ourselves for those of us that do want to give it a go!

    • @frandaMeander
      @frandaMeander ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i think a big part of it, is that he's very proud of his design and he doesn't want it tarnished by subpar architects, which is understandable.

    • @Fakheet
      @Fakheet ปีที่แล้ว +40

      ​@@frandaMeanderthat's bogus. It takes a single look at the custom split keyboard community to see that people are very much capable of improving over original designs and even making new amazing ones. He should've just been honest and say he wants to monetize his effort, that would be completely fair, it's his work after all. But using "oh you'll get it wrong" excuse is just dishonest.

    • @mreggman8147
      @mreggman8147 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      public file = less money, i dont think its going to happen

    • @gcolombelli
      @gcolombelli 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seems like what you want is a open source mouse. Have a look at the Ploopy. Or, you know, look at printables and thingiverse and look at the tons of mod kits for COTS mice.

  • @oweny7814
    @oweny7814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the coolest thing I've seen a "youtuber" do and I'd trust no one more to do it.

  • @darealrulezbreaker9493
    @darealrulezbreaker9493 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    I would LOVE to try a mouse that has the sensor in between the fingertips.. so basically under the scrollwheel or close to it. That way you could (after getting used to it) actually aim with your fingertips

    • @itzgeebz
      @itzgeebz ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That is genius

    • @netxink
      @netxink ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just like it. We need more people to see this!

    • @chrisdaniel1998
      @chrisdaniel1998 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yeah, until he mentioned where the sensor was on his design, I’d never really thought about the sensors position on a mouse. A sensor close to the front of the mouse definitely sounds like the most intuitive place for it to be. I’d love to be able test that out for myself

    • @DJHEADPHONENINJA
      @DJHEADPHONENINJA ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Japanese Elecom did a mouse like that. It was not a gaming mouse though. It was okay. Can't say it felt any different.

    • @tyl3rb-fw6ee
      @tyl3rb-fw6ee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately what you LOVE to try is not wanted by 99% of the consumers out there. Mainly because there are mice with forward-placed sensors out there and there is no proof they are better.

  • @VibingtonCity
    @VibingtonCity ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this genius of a man is gonna start a new trend in elite gaming mice, mark my words there will be pro players using this when it becomes more accessible. keep it up optimum make it into a full brand

  • @jachymecek
    @jachymecek ปีที่แล้ว +9

    bro is gaming on a grain of rice

  • @shubhanbhasin
    @shubhanbhasin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do I like this guys videos so much. Watched ur first vid yesterday and I’m hooked. Keep up the work

  • @miraclo3
    @miraclo3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the definition of if you want something done right you better do it yourself. Great work especially taking on such a daunting project like learning CAD software.

  • @jawn_1086
    @jawn_1086 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love how he's even saying the downsides and other things like the, he seems so kind and knowledgable, I like the way he was enviromentally and waste conscious too,

  • @tonyy.8852
    @tonyy.8852 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man, this is absolutely awesome!! I’m excited to see what’s the future of your design looks like

  • @assada5297
    @assada5297 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I personally think that releasing the models would help people to try and differentiate the stride you've made. I'm doing something similar to this, but with an aggressive fingertip approach, and the outline of the PCB board along with the switches and what not are extremely daunting to get down. It'll save lots of time and waste having the initial model to be able to edit and move from there

    • @milanmiki98
      @milanmiki98 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I can't help but feel that his reasoning for not making the models available is extremely dishonest. It's not about "saving us the money", it's all about selling his product, which I would've been completely fine with if he wasn't dishonest about it.

    • @pdj2975
      @pdj2975 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@milanmiki98 im with you, having it open source will solve problems faster but then someone else will profit off his work or a company in china will injection mold one, and the list goes on, hes keeping in close to his chest so he can make money off it in the competitive scene, props to him but yeah don't be dishonest about it

    • @shooternerd
      @shooternerd ปีที่แล้ว

      both of your points make no sense "i dont like that he wants to makes money on his idea before somebody else does" both of your opinions are as selfish as his reasonings for not making the models dishonest @@pdj2975

    • @tmhamoty
      @tmhamoty ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ⁠@@shooternerdyou ought to read comments before you reply.. theyve got a point, if he was upfront about it and said “we wont be releasing the models because we want to sell the product” then fair enough it’s his business and he can do with it as he pleases

    • @beauwalker2767
      @beauwalker2767 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have also tried doing this, have you found a site that does custom PCBs to better cater to what you want or are you using one from a gaming mouse?

  • @DankaDoctor185
    @DankaDoctor185 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just wish it had side buttons honestly, i've gotten used to the side buttons for pinging and voice comms so much i literally look like an old man staring at my keyboard if i have voice chat on my keyboard. I understand why you've decided to sell the kit as opposed to giving out the model, but would you be willing to give out a model regardless? I use a g900 as a secondary mouse because of its free scroll-wheel, having the files would mean i could make my own version out of literally just wood, would glue, and tiny metal pins with the g900's pcb.

  • @skullytheskully
    @skullytheskully ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Looking forward to the future of this project's development! It looks like a lot of the things you were looking to perfect are the sorts of things I would be looking for in a mouse, with the only major deficit being MOBA-style side buttons (eg, the corsair scimitar). Whether your project expands in that direction or not, i look forward to hearing about everything!

  • @Alexander-pk1tu
    @Alexander-pk1tu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good luck mate. Your motivation and dedication to doing what you love is very inspiring !!

  • @Ashxr0
    @Ashxr0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    always a good morning when optimum drops, keep it up man :D

  • @jamesreichmann2129
    @jamesreichmann2129 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's been interesting watching this mouse go from concept to basically a product, there's a lot someone can learn from that and I congratulate you on managing to go full ball, you can add entrepreneur to your resume. This mouse is sick.

  • @dawn9340
    @dawn9340 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love that. Learning circuit board design is going to make things so much cheaper and easier for you. I learned it designing an electronically adjustable car suspension system and it was easier than I thought.

  • @accumulator4825
    @accumulator4825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so excited for you. Keep going man

  • @kaimelis
    @kaimelis ปีที่แล้ว +54

    If someone wants to print at their own quality or not is not for you to decide, lets not beat around the bush and just say that you wanted to sell these. Nothing wrong with that, just dont bs your way out of it.

    • @Taziod
      @Taziod 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To a certain degree he also might want his vision for it to be reflected as accurately as possible. If he has pride for his work maybe the thought of people printing it in crappy materials sucks. I don't know if selling 1,100 is really as profit seeking as you make it out to be.

    • @kaimelis
      @kaimelis 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cope harder.@@Taziod

    • @Taziod
      @Taziod 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kaimelis Cope? I didn't even buy this crap

  • @Rashghar1337
    @Rashghar1337 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just wow. Congrats man, that must feel like hell of an achievement! We can tell you've put your heart into it.

  • @SirPrestonScott
    @SirPrestonScott ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It’s incredible the attention to detail and progress you’ve made! A version with just 1 thumb mouse button would be amazing. I use that for either grenades or a quick map key depending on the game.

  • @Beebopp
    @Beebopp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man you really are the best pc tech youtuber. I've seen them all and by far you are the most interesting. Keep it up and 1m+ subs will come!

  • @tarfeef_4268
    @tarfeef_4268 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude that's awesome, i wish you success in making a full successful product out of this

  • @TerrifyiN_
    @TerrifyiN_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lost me a fingertip mouse but I do hope fingertip fans get to enjoy it.
    I personally like ergo mouses. Thorn is my daily driver currently.

  • @phillsol
    @phillsol ปีที่แล้ว +11

    tbh this is the most exciting thing to come out of gaming gear in quite a while and I'm looking forward to what you have in store for the future!

  • @pigeongg
    @pigeongg ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ali - your videos are just on another level. The production, the content, the visuals and the quality. Thank you for inspiring us and for also putting out cinema - grade info about tech and interesting things. You always push the limits on what can be done and open up new ways of tinkering with setups. Quiet frankly - you personally got me into the ITX world.
    Thanks alot ! Keep the goodness coming !
    p.

  • @ForeheadSweat
    @ForeheadSweat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aww bros high five man, good job and good luck. You are a much needed person in the mouse industry. Please keep going.

  • @Zenbeau
    @Zenbeau ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is the only tech youtuber whose videos i still watch because his videos are always around the 10-15 min range. I don't know why all these youtubers have 30 minute videos saying nonsense in them. mans don't know how summarize/present their point in a short, concise manner.

  • @UnimatrixYoutube
    @UnimatrixYoutube ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This guy is the ultimate endboss of tech channels. Also, I'm always pretty entertained by your Overwatch clips. Looking at your footage you can tell right away that you're a high rated player.

  • @Brankokovac
    @Brankokovac ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just so you know. I think I can speak for many of us when I say, I am totally here for the optimum mouse arc.
    Can’t wait to support you 100% in anyway I can with your new ventures. Excited to watch the process. Thank you for sharing your passions with all of us over the years, it’s been a pleasure to be here

  • @jimmydeslondes9531
    @jimmydeslondes9531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have sort of gotten into the whole programming/making/designing/building/electronics/soldering hobby this year. Im really excited about your new mouse. Just as much to build it as to try it out. I have more than one email subscribed to the drop notification even though I only plan on buying one. I really hope I dont miss it. good job man. Im constantly trying to imagine something cool I could design and build. You should be proud of this one.

  • @AnbuReckz
    @AnbuReckz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super impressive dude you wanted something that was best for you so you just made it a true innovator. I hope you push forward with this mentality as you sure do have a knack for it.

  • @dem4xed
    @dem4xed ปีที่แล้ว +190

    None of your reasons of not putting the file online make this decission valid. Everyone can decide on their own how to handle the materials and construction. If you do it for monetary reasons then that's your valid decission, but don't make it seem like you do this for your viewers protection.

    • @RsVs2304
      @RsVs2304 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not to mention it requires gutting a razer viper, significantly more waste than one or two failed attempts

    • @Demolisher006
      @Demolisher006 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RsVs2304 which is why you shouldn't do it

    • @Anon-do7lo
      @Anon-do7lo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      “I don’t feel like uploading it” is a valid reason, one of the only reasons that isn’t valid is because you don’t want viewers to try something difficult

    • @ZeerakImran
      @ZeerakImran 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@Anon-do7lo tbh, if i was him, I wouldn't want others printing it either. waking up two weeks later to a bunch of youtube videos reviewing and critiquing my mouse design when every single one of their builds has a different feel. He wants the final product to be good. Not just the design. That's why he himself is sticking with the company from Singapore. He said he couldn't get it perfect and that bothered him (very believable considering how insanely ocd his videos and production is), so having others print it and it not be perfect would probably annoy him even more. If I was him, I would want it to be a perfect product every time and a perfect experience for everyone when my name is involved.

    • @ysaak8424
      @ysaak8424 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Regardless of how you feel, he worked on making it. Its hid decision on how to distribute it.

  • @Simon_Laserna
    @Simon_Laserna ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That is very inspiring!
    Unfortunately I suffer from RSI and need a mouse with a more vertical tilt. This has been a huge issue for me as a gamer given that most vertical mouse have horrible performance. I get that a full vertical version would be very hard to do, but if you ever release a version with a bit more extreme vertical tilt then I will buy it. I am trying to get into modding mouse so i can build one myself, but it is a long journey. Which made me really appreciate the work and effort this must have taken.

    • @MrMeasaftw
      @MrMeasaftw ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean. He did weirdly enjoy the gun grip mouse. So you never know what he might do next.

  • @TarekAlShawwa
    @TarekAlShawwa ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Phenomenal improvements to the design 🙏 you deserve to make money for your hard work and dedication so good on you for making it into a product

  • @joemortensen
    @joemortensen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait to pick one of these up and looking forward to you continuing your passion.

  • @bradleyandrews2444
    @bradleyandrews2444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gamers never ending quest for the lightest gaming mouse has cause them to make a barebone piece of platic a motherboard 2 button and a wheel this is what we call peak preformace

  • @Jonobot
    @Jonobot ปีที่แล้ว +23

    babe wake up optimum tech posted

  • @Weepsy_
    @Weepsy_ ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is one of the most worth it products ever made, regardless of the small batch. So I think releasing a 3d printable version for some money would be perfect for people that miss the launch or don't have budget at the time.
    Also, looking forward for more models that hopefully will support other mouse PCBs that are cheaper to get.

  • @CarlBergsdorf
    @CarlBergsdorf ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is honestly so amazing. Awesome to see this project come so far to an actual product! 👑

  • @bjakfalvy
    @bjakfalvy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm definitely here for an official product drop. subscribed to the email list. job well done sir

  • @KJ_XCV
    @KJ_XCV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So dope Ali. Can't wait to see what this project turns into in the future!

  • @darkidarki1332
    @darkidarki1332 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh wow this looks really close to the perfect mouse for me. I currently use the Viper mini and really like it, but always wanted it to be even smaller. Small, lightweight fingertip mouses seem to simply not exist for some reason?Razer's software is also pretty nice, so that's definitely a plus
    That being said, I'd really miss the DPI button as well as the side buttons. I use my side buttons to toggle DPI so I can aim easier when using weapons such as sniper rifles. It'd also be useful to have a removable cover, I'd be anxious about shocking it while playing it the way it's designed now

    • @MrMeasaftw
      @MrMeasaftw ปีที่แล้ว

      You change dpi on the fly?

    • @darkidarki1332
      @darkidarki1332 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrMeasaftw I usually play with really high sensitivity so I set up my side buttons to change DPI to something lower through the Razer App, that way when I need more percision (Like using a sniper rifle), I keep the side button pressed which toggles a lower DPI and can aim more easily.

    • @MrMeasaftw
      @MrMeasaftw ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkidarki1332 I could never. I have the Logitech g502 with the same functionality. But man, that would trip me out too much. I'd rather just change in game settings for ads

  • @JR-mk6ow
    @JR-mk6ow ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is so amazing! Also the decision to sell as a mod-kit makes perfect sense

  • @nojonsko
    @nojonsko ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i still think you should release the 3d file. make it open source even, and still sell the modkits to those who don't have access to 3d printers. warping and scarring is kind of negligible imo and can be fixed really easily with sanding and grip tape.
    (this also opens up the possibility of modifying it to fit other pcb's... thereby reducing tech waste so you can modify mice that you already own instead of going out of your way to buy a 300 dollar mouse).
    holding the file just makes it seem like you're aiming to create artificial scarcity to make a quick buck and isn't good for innovation.

    • @OC.TINYYY
      @OC.TINYYY ปีที่แล้ว

      It's his product. He can do whatever the hell he wants with it.

    • @nojonsko
      @nojonsko ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OC.TINYYY i know?? it doesn't mean i have to support what he wants to do...
      i've already said why i don't like it, and i feel like it's pretty understandable, as the alternative is just better in every way imo.

  • @samstedman409
    @samstedman409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This channel is perfect for me it’s like every tech idea I’ve thought about that I’ve been too lazy to create myself. You’ve got some real talent.

  • @andrewcallahan3834
    @andrewcallahan3834 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the great work man. I'll love to see where this concept takes you!

  • @mezzanoon
    @mezzanoon ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ergonomic?? What??

  • @Sponers1
    @Sponers1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    bro said no files and said give me money for a cheep print

  • @dogac_
    @dogac_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think releasing the files and selling the ready-made version yourself are mutually exclusive. I'm saying this as a person that is watching out of pure curiosity, I don't intend to make one nor buy one. But I think releasing the design for the community would do a lot of good and might even save you some trouble, since you're going to be community-sourcing your project. You can still include disclaimers like "this only works well with this setting", or "you might need to print it a couple of times to tune the settings in for your environment". People would be downloading the files knowing the risks, and the ones that are willing to go the extra mile do get their worth.
    Also, making the prototype run limited is a little weird if you're not going to release the files. Because as it stands, no one after the first 200 people will have the chance to try it.

  • @KALTBLUTWOLF1
    @KALTBLUTWOLF1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:26: "It can run at higher polling rates [than the M2K]"
    Do you mean the sensor -> mainboard or the mouse -> PC polling rate? The M2K does 8 kHz. It seems like the Viper is available in 8 kHz and some lower variant. So how does your's do more?

  • @piaruvimittsu23
    @piaruvimittsu23 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm proud of you. From what was a wacky idea to now retailing mod kits for one of the best mouse in the market. I never thought this would happen. I truly am proud of you.

  • @levihackerman4892
    @levihackerman4892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Reconsider the Ø in the name. For all scandinavians, this is gonna sound like zerO%¤#"¤mouse :D

  • @De1337ed
    @De1337ed ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you're done developing your own internals I'll definetly give it a try. Would love to see you integrate 2 side buttons then I could imagine it fully replacing my G703

  • @stonedizzleful
    @stonedizzleful ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hell yeah dude. Watching you work through this has been so awesome. Great work!!

  • @Ryan-wh2xf
    @Ryan-wh2xf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we just appreciate how cracked Optimum is at tracer

  • @omster_
    @omster_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The OCU is one of the universes of all time. I hope you manage to build the Zeromouse into a quality standalone mouse brand soon

  • @danielionanov5620
    @danielionanov5620 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    70$ for the plastic? And you say “I don’t want you to waste money” if you said “I spent a lot of hours and would like to make it into profit” sure but lying and saying we’re just idiots is crazy

    • @benlow46
      @benlow46 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      A mass produced ultralight gaming mouse will run you about 70-90$, he designed these solo, with no company backing, so an essentially boutique maker matching the price of corporations is 100% him trying to help us not waste money, if he was charging based on how much work he put in this would be easily $100+

    • @damfamyass2088
      @damfamyass2088 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benlow46 it doesn’t come with the actual mouse it’s just a shell so no it’s not a competitor you literally have to buy a viper pro v2 to take apart and reskin.

    • @Boofski
      @Boofski 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The print costs like $20, the skates are like $20, the grips are maybe like $5. That’s $25 left for R&D and packaging, and of course he has to make some sort of profit. I would never buy it myself but it’s not as bad as you make it out to be. Just say you can’t afford it and don’t appreciate it and move on.

  • @kalcaps
    @kalcaps ปีที่แล้ว +1

    absolutly insane, keep up the amazing work and get to that goal.

  • @alywoz6942
    @alywoz6942 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have seen this channel the first time but I am really impressed. I honestly want to wait for the next time you upgrade it. Because then having a full mous which you did everthing yourself would be very impressive to have. I wish you luck with the progress and will keep watching 👍

  • @Ensyy1
    @Ensyy1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In the next itteration I would love to see you implement the side buttons, they are a must have in my books.

    • @bourne_
      @bourne_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Ideally you don't want to use mouse for anything other than movement.
      Maybe "Stream Deck Pedal" instead of side buttons?

    • @FactionalSky
      @FactionalSky ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bourne_ why sould one not use the fingers that are on that mouse? Does not make any sense.

    • @bourne_
      @bourne_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FactionalSky it changes the way you hold the mouse and disrupts the aiming slightly

    • @FactionalSky
      @FactionalSky ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bourne_ still does not make any sense, no. :D

    • @bourne_
      @bourne_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FactionalSky you need your thumb to hold the mouse steady. If you try to move your mouse and aim while clicking thumb buttons - you will have a worse aim since the thumb is the last adjustment point when it comes to precise aiming (arm/hand/fingers, especially pinky and thumb).

  • @hinley2615
    @hinley2615 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Say you want to sell the model instead of giving it away for free without saying it:

  • @tynextnext736
    @tynextnext736 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dont want yall to print your own so buy it from me amd oh yeah this is a limited run. So if you dpnt get one you still cant print it.

  • @bernardosteria9836
    @bernardosteria9836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm starting to think that all of this after watching all of the fps games from his vids, optimum really has godlike skills on fps ffs

  • @danesaldanha2739
    @danesaldanha2739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is insane ❤ keep it coming man

  • @torchy_
    @torchy_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm gonna buy one of these, great job!

  • @Visigoth_
    @Visigoth_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's cool that you made it... but it's *NOT ERGONOMIC!*

    • @culan_SCP
      @culan_SCP ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not unergonomic, it the whole worlds cramp combined 😂😂😂

    • @Visigoth_
      @Visigoth_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@culan_SCP if it's "not" Ergonomic: then by Logic, that means that it *IS* unergonomic... but this doesn't mean it's innately a "bad design" (the value judgment is based on your desired criteria of judgment)
      -
      Personally: I would never use it (I have bad carpal tunnel issues from to much use of that style "the classic style" of mouse... I can only handle using "more ergonomic" mice "the ones that are 90° vertical," and even those; only for so long before I have to stop).
      *ACTUALLY RESEARCH MOUSE ERGONOMICS* before you make a claim like that... you only come off as either ignorant, or deceitful by making such a claim (with such a design).

  • @DaMu24
    @DaMu24 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    RIP lefties

    • @OfficerDowns
      @OfficerDowns ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who tf is leftie with a mouse? Sounds like an affliction