Is Greg from Steven Universe Actually Greg from OTGW? Steven Universe Theory

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  • Over The Garden Wall left fans wanting more and theorizing just exactly happened to Greg and Wirt. Is it possible that Greg actually grew up and became a dad? Sure maybe, but what about Steven Universe's dad?! Sounds crazy, but this theory might actually be true... Find out on this episode of Cartoon Conspiracy!
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  • @ChannelFrederator
    @ChannelFrederator  7 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    This might sound crazy, but hear us out!! Could it be the same GREG?!?
    Let us know what show we should cover next on Cartoon Conspiracy?!

    • @eyy_man1162
      @eyy_man1162 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ChannelFrederator cool.i love both shows

    • @40sanny
      @40sanny 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      oh! "does the joker know he's part of a fictional universe?"

    • @logankelly9068
      @logankelly9068 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In amazing world of gumball is it all different timelines?

    • @giggityking6505
      @giggityking6505 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ChannelFrederator Did Static Shock created FNAF and FROZEN?

    • @lockjaw7437
      @lockjaw7437 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is something I always wonder myself I always believed

  • @eyy_man1162
    @eyy_man1162 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1745

    if every potato were perfect ,we wouldn't have molasses

    • @evatha69
      @evatha69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Lolz Rofl that's actually really true XD

    • @alyssabrich2527
      @alyssabrich2527 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lolz Rofl Yas!!!!

    • @Goldenswagger359
      @Goldenswagger359 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nikyu / Lolz Rofl lol if every porkchop was perfect we wouldn't have hotdogs

    • @savagegirl5204
      @savagegirl5204 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nikyu / Lolz Rofl YASS

    • @eyy_man1162
      @eyy_man1162 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Savage Girl O yEA

  • @evatha69
    @evatha69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +881

    They both stole a rock from an old person. THEORY CONFIRMED

  • @deralmighty8011
    @deralmighty8011 7 ปีที่แล้ว +804

    If every frog were perfect, we wouldn't have Jason Funderburker.

    • @hush64
      @hush64 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DerAlmighty aww

    • @giggityking6505
      @giggityking6505 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They should do a conspiracy about how STATIC SHOCK inspired FNAF and FROZEN

    • @Minionluvrrr
      @Minionluvrrr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DerAlmighty If every dog were extremley smart, we wouldn't have doge. 😐

    • @discodaze8369
      @discodaze8369 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Giggity King fnaf is inspired by a chunky cheese employee who murdered his co-workers

    • @thedonut4228
      @thedonut4228 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      DerAlmighty and thats a rock fact!

  • @Tohpeak
    @Tohpeak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1148

    If every porkchop were perfect, we wouldn't have hot dogs.

    • @eyy_man1162
      @eyy_man1162 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Roo boy if every potato were perfect, we wouldn't have molasses.

    • @kitkatbubble92
      @kitkatbubble92 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Roo boy Cue the light canons

    • @marsamet128
      @marsamet128 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      if every tofu block were perfect we wouldnt have fake chicken

    • @ConnorM0618
      @ConnorM0618 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      HOT DOGS!

    • @Anonymous_Gambito
      @Anonymous_Gambito 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      And that's a rock fact!

  • @leafeon8956
    @leafeon8956 7 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    One thing I noticed is that whenever Steven gets fry-bits, something bad happens
    Gets fry-bits->A red-eye almost destroys Beach City
    Gets fry-bits->Steven turns into a cat monster
    Gets fry-bits->Homeworld attacks Beach City

    • @nintendoboyultra1375
      @nintendoboyultra1375 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Harry Potter Fan 13
      Gets fry bits=Satan comes out of the depths of hell.

    • @ngkhaiping
      @ngkhaiping 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Gets Fry Bits> White Diamond comes

    • @doudidoda4737
      @doudidoda4737 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Harry Potter Fan 13 gets frie bits->steven universe dies...oh wait it already did

    • @IceFireofVoid
      @IceFireofVoid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The bits are cursed. THE BITS ARE WHITE DIAMOND

    • @cake3292
      @cake3292 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gets fry bits- aliens abduct residents of beach city.

  • @LordLemmysLabs
    @LordLemmysLabs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    One thing that was absolutely ignored when talking about Over the Garden Wall's tech is the Police Car.
    Police cars stay in service for a limited amount of time, lasting usually only a few years. The police car in Over the Garden Wall is absolutely a 70s vehicle. Based on my research, it bares striking resemblance to a 1973 Plymouth Fury, but may not be exact as it's not 1-for-1, but it's a cartoon, exact designs and measurements are allowed to be off.
    The cassette player is just as easily a 70s device, and Sarah not having her own has no baring on the time frame as she can simply just not have one.
    The mid 70s is the best estimate for when OtGW takes place.

    • @dwightanton
      @dwightanton 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That would also make sense, since if Greg was born during the early 70's to late 60's (1968-1972), he'd be in his mid-40's, which is how old he is.

    • @siramaytheshowgundragon
      @siramaytheshowgundragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      oohh yeah i like this!

  • @bradleygaleazzo7024
    @bradleygaleazzo7024 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1103

    "OH MY GOD HIS DAD'S NAME IS GREG"
    IT'S CONFIRMED

    • @Enter54623
      @Enter54623 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      BW_ Punk I want o point something out, Steven used an NES in the beginning of the show but went to a game cube, just the order they came out in, and that Russia is obliterated means that Steven universe is in an alternate reality where certain technologies are where they are now, but others are decades behind, just saying, watch a few of the episodes

    • @Enter54623
      @Enter54623 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BMAN488877 wat

    • @bradleygaleazzo7024
      @bradleygaleazzo7024 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      OMG I just came to see the reply and I saw the heart and I'm freaking out

    • @Enter54623
      @Enter54623 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BMAN488877 Oh, sorry, I'm a deprived child, I've never had a console before😞

    • @captainrexofthe501st9
      @captainrexofthe501st9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BW_ Punk it's not just a coincidence, it's a retcon

  • @GordieWhalen
    @GordieWhalen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    You also forgot to mention something:
    Gregory (OTGW) is in an "elephant" costume
    Greg U. had a car wash (It's a Wash) which symbol was an ELEPHANT. Gregory could've had the time of his life, and thought about elephants to do so, as he was dressed as an elephant. Greg U., coming to reality that he was an adult, still wanted those memories, so he made his job's logo an elephant, as it reminded him of his adventurous childhood.

    • @littlegreensunflower3547
      @littlegreensunflower3547 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wish you were correct, but, based on the episode Greg the Babysitter, you're wrong. It seems as though he bought the business from someone who had been running it prior and had already established the elephant logo as the sign was already there when he claimed the place. I suppose the details of him getting the car wash are a bit vague, but this is how I interpreted it.

    • @moodlemcdoodle5746
      @moodlemcdoodle5746 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      even if Greg didn't choose that logo, it's still another parallel between the two Gregs

    • @Super50ldier
      @Super50ldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gregory from Over the Garden Wall and Greg Universe from Steven Universe are not one and the same.

  • @ms_sk3tch59
    @ms_sk3tch59 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Greg (from steven universe) after getting abducted by blue diamond and put into an insidious human zoo in outer space: "that must have been the third craziest weekend I've ever had."
    Could this mean that the other two crazy weekends occurred in Over the Garden Wall?

    • @HylianWolfMage55
      @HylianWolfMage55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or they could be other adventures he has been on with the Crystal Gems.

    • @Orto-jj2di
      @Orto-jj2di 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HylianWolfMage55 really? Bc that was many

  • @dawstonfilmstv8522
    @dawstonfilmstv8522 7 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    The answer is so simple! over the garden wall is set 35 years before our time, the time of steven universe. When sarah(?) said she didn't have a tape player she meant not yet because they were so new. if in over the garden wall Halloween was on a Friday it would have been on a Friday any multiple of 7 before or after that year, 35 is 7x5, so, 2017-35 = 1982, around the time when tape players were coming out. I'm pretty sure that's about when they came out, referencing pat of the theory above steven universe could be set in 2023 or something.

    • @hush64
      @hush64 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dawson Schoenbaechler nah good math

    • @kylelaplana863
      @kylelaplana863 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dawson Schoenbaechler True but in SU people dont celebrate Halloween or any holidays

    • @cookiebombcasualemail5284
      @cookiebombcasualemail5284 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      good theory

    • @dwightanton
      @dwightanton 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe people from Beach City don't celebrate Halloween, but in other parts of the country, they do.

    • @alias3313
      @alias3313 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Woah

  • @Starridge
    @Starridge 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Wirt's cape is a WWII nurse cape, and WWII never happened in the Steven Universe, which means that Wirt's costume wouldn't have been should SU and OTGW be in the same universe. On top of that, holidays like Halloween don't exist in the SU timeline, and Over the Garden Wall took place on Halloween of whatever respective year it's in. c:

    • @Wipple.
      @Wipple. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andromeda4553 sorry, just wanna ask, how you two know that Hallowen doesn't exists in SU?

  • @pbrunet44
    @pbrunet44 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It's not been like Greg to talk about his family. He even lied about his last name. Lying about a brother makes sense.

    • @JacobDeRose
      @JacobDeRose 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pbrunet44 That's actually a super good point!

  • @adriansoldevilla2232
    @adriansoldevilla2232 7 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    You forgot a really mind blowing piece of evidence... Both Gregs are rock stealers! Think about it. Greg from OTGW stole a rock from that lady and the Greg from SU stole Rose(a gem/rock) from Pearl. Mind blown! hahahaha :p

  • @awesomeallyse
    @awesomeallyse 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Tbh I believe it
    It would also explain why Greg was pretty chill with the discovery of the gems

    • @angelcloudcosplay4141
      @angelcloudcosplay4141 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      awesomeallyse true

    • @lukeschonkeren4602
      @lukeschonkeren4602 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      it can't be true, though. Halloween doesn't exist in SU, and OTGW happens on halloween

  • @SpecimenSpec
    @SpecimenSpec 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Did you notice that at the end of gravity falls Mable said: ready to go into the unknown

    • @thisdorkshere
      @thisdorkshere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That’s was Diper
      Also it was “ready to head into the unknown?”

    • @justagirl2919
      @justagirl2919 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Woah

    • @myscarylibrary
      @myscarylibrary 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think it was a literal action and place they meant. They meant growing up, it's unknown to them because they're not ready and still growing.

    • @Orto-jj2di
      @Orto-jj2di 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@myscarylibrary still perhaps it's a node that wirt is somehow connected to them

    • @Orto-jj2di
      @Orto-jj2di 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a theory that maybe wirt is mabel and dippers father

  • @8393Robertrex
    @8393Robertrex 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    rebecca sugar has stated that SU exists in a universe where gems exist (as in our world BUT with gems)
    so maybe its the same greg in an alternate universe

    • @Orto-jj2di
      @Orto-jj2di 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe but we don't know if the gems were in that time with young Greg, lurking around

    • @Super50ldier
      @Super50ldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Orto-jj2di Gregory is not Greg Universe, they are different people.

  • @Lupusam
    @Lupusam 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    According to most of the stylistic elements of Over the Garden Wall, especially the choices in Halloween decorations, it actually appears to take place in the mid to late 70s, giving much more room for the timelines to line up.

    • @Orto-jj2di
      @Orto-jj2di 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point

  • @Loraxius
    @Loraxius 7 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    i like dog hots

    • @Astro_Guy_1
      @Astro_Guy_1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Lorax you like dog hots? Beastiality perv

    • @cqzmic6781
      @cqzmic6781 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dog hots like i

    • @lpsfoxstar8454
      @lpsfoxstar8454 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lorax i am litterly eating dog hots rn....

    • @cqzmic6781
      @cqzmic6781 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +LPS Foxstar you realize it's spelled hot dogs. Right?

    • @coopasoopa536
      @coopasoopa536 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cqzmic *sigh*

  • @TheOneALP
    @TheOneALP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Headcanon accepted. Steven Universe's technology is everywhere, (like having a smartphone/GPS and a Gamecube/VHS) and Gregg Universe didn't mention any of his family. I just assumed there were a falling out, maybe it has something to do with him dropping out of school to be a rock star. I don't know, but yeah, I can totally see potatoes and molasses being the starting point to everything.

    • @TheOneALP
      @TheOneALP 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      We do?? I don't remember that, but then again, it's been a while since I've seen the episode

    • @aw3someninjaman046
      @aw3someninjaman046 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wolf_Nate_1625
      andy is his uncle not brother.
      he just wants Steven to call him cousin...

    • @driveasandwich6734
      @driveasandwich6734 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You messed up uncle and cousin.

    • @midnightrains
      @midnightrains 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wolf_Nate_1625 his cousin not brother

    • @Super50ldier
      @Super50ldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheOneALP Gregory and Greg Universe are not one and the same.

  • @amygarcia9838
    @amygarcia9838 7 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    Is this the Sans is Ness episode?

    • @BigR.O.B.
      @BigR.O.B. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      "greg is greg" is the new "sans is ness"

    • @Successkid2014
      @Successkid2014 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Do you think he'll give Undertale to the Pope?

    • @BigR.O.B.
      @BigR.O.B. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Mister Niceguy he'll give him a steven universe dvd

    • @amygarcia9838
      @amygarcia9838 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mister Niceguy considering this channel they'll probably give him some undertale animations ;)

    • @anthealois187
      @anthealois187 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Akira Katsura hey I was about to comment that xD I guess we both have the same thoughts

  • @MrDannyloco
    @MrDannyloco 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    OTGW:
    Aunt Dan: "Greg, why didnyou steal my rock?"
    SU:
    Pearl: "Greg, why did you steal my rock?"

  • @avrillareau4604
    @avrillareau4604 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    OMIGOSH, GREG TOLD ROSE THAT NETHER OF THEM HAD TO TALK ABOUT THEIR "PAST." COULD HE HAVE MENT THIS?!?!?!

    • @aneragobuulolo8525
      @aneragobuulolo8525 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Avril Lareau OH MY GOSH IS THAT A YELLOW GIRAFFE IN YOUR PROFILE PICTURE?!?!?!

    • @aneragobuulolo8525
      @aneragobuulolo8525 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm sorry... I just have to

    • @lukeschonkeren4602
      @lukeschonkeren4602 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nope. halloween doesn't exist in SU, and OTGW happens on halloween, so this theory is impossible

    • @Kelcb_
      @Kelcb_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be like they both don’t want to talk about their ptsd.

    • @Orto-jj2di
      @Orto-jj2di 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lukeschonkeren4602 actually it isn't. It isnt stated in overthegardenwall that's its Halloween. And even if so...I doubt that's too big of an issue

  • @AlexTalArt
    @AlexTalArt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    but what if otgw is set in the 80's? what is sarah doesn't have a tape player because she listens to vinyl? he had star wars sheets! (im not really into the theory but i feel like a lot of assumptions are made about when otgw is set)

    • @KrisRN23935
      @KrisRN23935 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That would explain why Greg (Universe) never got big. Think about it, if they were the same person and the timeline you suggest were true than Greg would have met Rose in the mid-90s or so. While he was trying to get famous on 80s style Hair Metal. Believe me, he would have been way out of style. No wonder only Rose showed up.

    • @03bgood
      @03bgood 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sophie Talia OTGW is probably set between 1988-1992.

    • @Orto-jj2di
      @Orto-jj2di 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's gonna be a problem since in Steven universe future at one point Steven mentions having a tape recorder so it doesn't exactly help

  • @alefalf197
    @alefalf197 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Greg Universe also never mentioned Andy, so it's still possible.

    • @Orto-jj2di
      @Orto-jj2di 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah in fact he never mentions any of his relatives

    • @Super50ldier
      @Super50ldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greg Universe is not Gregory from Over the Garden Wall.

  • @youfam
    @youfam 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Season 1 episode 43 of Steven Universe: Maximum Capacity
    Amethyst says that she found something in Greg's storage shed that "Doesn't belong with all this junk" and than Greg says "Is it the deed to my Uncle's mansion?" could he be referring to the mansion of his "Uncle" Endicott??

    • @Super50ldier
      @Super50ldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That doesn't mean that Gregory and Greg Universe are the same person, they are two different people.

  • @technicaldifficulties3289
    @technicaldifficulties3289 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:31 Greg's expression is how I feel during this whole thing

  • @leahpuffenbarger8842
    @leahpuffenbarger8842 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And When Greg meets amethyst as am owl he dose not find it weird that she can talk like Beth I think i have not seen it in a while

    • @crazychick3549
      @crazychick3549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you don’t know the character’s actual name, you’re not a fan.

  • @conk3896
    @conk3896 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Over the GARNETT wall

  • @arcticofclosedverse1171
    @arcticofclosedverse1171 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Actually, in the Steven Universe episode "Log Date 7 15 2" it is heavily implied that the date on which the episode takes place is on July 15th, 2002. It is also stated that July 12th, 2002 was the one month "canniversary" of Peridot joining the Crystal Gems. This means that the episode "Message Received" took place on June 12, 2002. Just pointing that out.

    • @arcticofclosedverse1171
      @arcticofclosedverse1171 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This makes even more sense when you realize that Steven has a Nintendo GameCube by his TV. The GameCube was at it's peak of popularity at this time, so he would likely have one. In the show it is called the Dolphin, which is a reference to the GameCube's codename.

    • @moodlemcdoodle5746
      @moodlemcdoodle5746 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      but Steven ALSO has a smartphone, he could just be awesome and have old consoles because he likes the games on those consoles. there are a lot of retro references but also a lot of modern references and Steven is a HUGE NERD so it makes sense for him to know and enjoy older video games. (one of the things i relate to him with!)

    • @moodlemcdoodle5746
      @moodlemcdoodle5746 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      also Peridot is an alien and doesn't know human dates

    • @malcxvm
      @malcxvm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Random Tube nah I think she meant 7 2 15 because if it was 2002 Steven wouldn't have a smartphone and peridot wouldn't have a tablet since that stuff came out in 2007

    • @rinbrennan773
      @rinbrennan773 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Random Tube what if gem time is measured differently

  • @definitely_not_sans4709
    @definitely_not_sans4709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steven: is a bright ball of sunshine
    Steven Universe Future: Let us introduce ourselves

  • @meow_aubs
    @meow_aubs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel that Gregory and Wart have an amazing connection since their journey that they will hopefully never lose. Greg Universe seemed to run away from his family and past and never really saw them since, like he seemed to love them but Uncle Andy made the family seem more conservative, so it'd be easy to get sick and want to be yourself more so he would leave and kinda forget to look back enjoying the freedom

  • @lalunamovimiento
    @lalunamovimiento 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm pretty sure OTGW was set in the mid to late 70s. It makes sense because obviously the technology would make sense for it, as around that time cassette tapes were beginning to become popular, and when Sara said she didn't have one she probably was saying she didn't have one yet. Also things like the look of Wirt and Greg's house is reminiscent of 70s decor, and in the party scene with Wirt and Sara if you look at the background the walls seem to have a bright 70s wallpaper.
    The theory could still work if you consider that in OTGW Gregory was around 6, and assuming that the events that take place happen in around 1978, if you do the math Gregory would've been 40 in 2014. 2014 is recent enough for smart phones to exist, and that was also when SU premiered. And assuming that so far in SU not much time has taken place (my guess is that it's been about a year and a half, maybe two years in the show since the first episode) the timelines would add up pretty well. Also since SU takes place in an alternate-ish universe, where things like WWll didn't happen, it could very much be possible that SU could have take place in the past (like around mid-to late 2000s) and it just has a more developed technology. But this also wouldn't match up as well with the timeline given that Gregory and Greg are the same person.

  • @gwynfromRARE
    @gwynfromRARE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Greg: “Wirt, I stole that rock. I’m a stealer.”
    Pearl: “Greg stole my rock from me.”

    • @lukeschonkeren4602
      @lukeschonkeren4602 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OTGW happens on halloween, but halloween doesn't exist in SU

  • @ohmyprettygirl
    @ohmyprettygirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It could definitely be the case. The boys from Over the Garden Wall are hinted at being from the late 70s or very early 80s. You can tell because of Wirt's bedroom and his use of a casette player, the style and decor of Jason Funderberker's home were ALL throwbacks to late 70s interior design, the fact that none of the teens had any modern technology like laptops or cell phones, the police car was even designed in that boxy way that was common for cars of the 70s. Wirt also asked if there was a phone in one of the episodes. If it took place in the late 90s to today, he'd have more than likely had a cell phone already. This could all easily line up to take place concurrently with Greg Universe's childhood, assuming its in the same universe.

    • @amfvideos6810
      @amfvideos6810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Naw, in "Mister Universe", it was confirmed Greg was an only child

  • @Rybutna
    @Rybutna 7 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Debunked cuz of gregs brother

    • @Zadap
      @Zadap 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ryan butler it really does destroy the theory

    • @Mordecai.Harris
      @Mordecai.Harris 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Gregory is Wirt's step brother, soo Gregory could have other siblings.

    • @ThatWarioGiant
      @ThatWarioGiant 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      thats his cousin

    • @matthewboyd68
      @matthewboyd68 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      half brother actually

    • @KitMin211
      @KitMin211 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      pyromancingking they mean Steven's uncle whom we've seen on the show is Greg's cousin. He's the son of Greg's aviator aunt and uncle that once owned the barn.

  • @gramfel6406
    @gramfel6406 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    if every potato were perfect, we wouldent have molasses

  • @solar-likes-metapod
    @solar-likes-metapod 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If every product were perfect, we wouldn't have plastic.

  • @BeanoNintendo
    @BeanoNintendo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was always under the impression that Over The Garden Wall took place in the 80s.

    • @Orto-jj2di
      @Orto-jj2di 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too but it can work still

  • @michellew3149
    @michellew3149 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    he fell in love with rocks from a young age when he stole Mrs. Daniels rock facts rock, and then he could have fallen in love with a giant space rock known as Rose Quartz

  • @moodlemcdoodle5746
    @moodlemcdoodle5746 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i think OTGW must have been in the 80s, as Sarah not having a tape player doesn't exactly prove she's moved on to CDs as she could just not have one and even if she had a cd player she could still easily have an old tape player lying around. also Wirt made that tape for her, and this wouldn't make much sense if he didn't expect her to have a means of listening to it. but that could just be Wirt being Wirt. As for Greg's lack of talk about Wirt, OF COURSE HE DOESNT! he's a college dropout who changed his name and ran away from his close minded family to become a rockstar, he doesn't talk about ANY of his family ever! the only time he does is when his cousin actually shows up at the barn. We don't know anything about Wirt and Greg's family in otgw, nor do we know how they changed after the incident, but considering what Wirt and Greg both went through i wouldn't be surprised with it ending up with Greg cutting ties with his family to become a rockstar. but that's just me who has loved this theory for a looooonnnggg time XD

    • @Super50ldier
      @Super50ldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Over the Garden Wall takes place in 2014 of Halloween which explains the moon throughout the series not the 80s or 90s.

  • @eva-kp6jh
    @eva-kp6jh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Over The Garden Wall" seems like a weird show.
    I'm gonna go watch it.

  • @kellywhite3501
    @kellywhite3501 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2 years ago my friend was comparing these two gregs and i was like "so their the same person?" posting this video is like you reading my mind, i'm not kidding

  • @Daniel-qy9ez
    @Daniel-qy9ez 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i know who sounds like greg from Steven Universe, Jermaine from Adventure Time if you don't remember Jermaine he's Jake's brother

  • @antitheist3206
    @antitheist3206 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Potatoes and Molasses for days!!!

  • @ziltch2150
    @ziltch2150 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can shoot this down here and now
    In Steven universe there is no holidays they don't exist this has been confirmed both in and out of the show and in one of your guys su 107 facts you stated that There is no holidays and when dose otgw take place?
    Hollaween... and before you say something like OH HOLLAWEEN MIGHT EXIST IN SU
    Uncle Andy said
    "YOUR GIVING OUT CANDY LIKES ITS SOME SORT OF...CANDY GIVEN HOLIDAY!?"
    BAM SHOT DOWN

    • @wingedbluj1674
      @wingedbluj1674 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, the years wouldn't add up as SU takes place in 2002.

  • @ScififanP
    @ScififanP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought that Greg was Chowder after a shave and a tail tuck. :P

  • @eulaliko3457
    @eulaliko3457 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    They are both Greg's 🤔
    OMG THEORY CONFIRMED video over you can go now

  • @KlynerKaiOffical
    @KlynerKaiOffical 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It can't take place on Halloween because in Steven universe they don't have holidays

  • @9qaive
    @9qaive 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Potatoes and molasses
    Oh potatoes and molasses
    We all love potatoes and molasses

  • @lalakitty_xo
    @lalakitty_xo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greg in AUs? They don't have to be in the same timeline to technically be "the same person."

  • @devindoesntlikeyou2546
    @devindoesntlikeyou2546 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frederator , get a load of this! In the episode. Reboot or preboot in adventure time , they,re in the same arcade that Clarence goes to. Meaning that Clarence lived in the ooh before the mushroom war

  • @aarona6522
    @aarona6522 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ha i played a football game on Halloween in 2014

    • @JacobDeRose
      @JacobDeRose 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Aaron A Do you know any bees named Sara? You could crack this whole thing wide open!

  • @MrX-qw6ph
    @MrX-qw6ph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lets see, greg, a character from Over the garden wall, one of my favorite shows of all time, is greg from Steven universe, a show i absolutely despise.
    One of them is a lovable child, and the other is a total loser.
    I think its safe to say...
    No he isn’t.

  • @alexiswelsh5821
    @alexiswelsh5821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Steven Universe Future, we see Greg’s childhood home and learn about his parents.

  • @koi7290
    @koi7290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2022 rn 1 year until this is back to the future

  • @fravia22
    @fravia22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Umm, optimistic kids can be older than they seem,
    Steven is 14 and still optimistic

    • @goldegreen
      @goldegreen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But OTGW Greg is super short and naive, like, too naive. Too naive to be 13.

  • @ethanseverance103
    @ethanseverance103 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ok I really liked this video but come on wouldn't Greg have mentioned The Unknown at least once

    • @littlegreensunflower3547
      @littlegreensunflower3547 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably doesn't like talking about his traumas

    • @moodlemcdoodle5746
      @moodlemcdoodle5746 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      he doesn't mention ANY of his past before becoming a rockstar, let alone the unknown, plus he was young and it was a traumatic experience so he might have blocked it from his memeory or thought it was a dream.

  • @jacksavage6925
    @jacksavage6925 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here goes.
    Gregory Demayo had his little adventure in otgw, then he found a love interest with percie's ( Clarence ) mother and had Percy. Then he launched his music career and left Percy with his mom. That's why Percy is so messed up. Percies mom divorced Greg over the phone. Greg got washed up, changed his name and started to fail. That's when he found beach city and Rose, married her, and gave birth to the hybrid we call Steven.

  • @esbethlace8950
    @esbethlace8950 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OoOoH it would also kinda explain why Greg (in SU) Wasn't shocked, weirded out or scared when he first met amethyst, who at the time, had shape shifted into a talking bird! like beatrice! he also wouldn't be that weirded out by the gems or all the magic cause of the stuff he saw and did as a child!!!

  • @aw3someninjaman046
    @aw3someninjaman046 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    ahhh but doesn't the greg from over the garden wall have a step? brother
    greg from Steven universe never mentioned this brother.
    i don't know...
    i'm sure this fact is stated in the video but still...

    • @moodlemcdoodle5746
      @moodlemcdoodle5746 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greg in steven universe doesn't mention ANY of his family until Andy shows up, and even then he still doesn't talk much about it. Greg cut ties with his family and literally changed his last name when he dropped out of college to become a rockstar, it makes perfect sense for him to not mention Wirt at all

    • @aw3someninjaman046
      @aw3someninjaman046 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MeoTheRandom
      ya
      i guess your right...
      but wouldn't andy mention a greg having a brother?
      you would think that at least..
      meh now my idea is out the window...

    • @moodlemcdoodle5746
      @moodlemcdoodle5746 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd have to rewatch the episode to see just how much is talked about their family, but i remember very little being said about it. also Wirt went through a lot in the unknown and was likely more traumatised by the experience than Greg was due to Greg being so young at the time. or at least Greg was better at hiding it. that combined with Wirt's quirks and nerdiness and, if Andy is anything to go by, the DeMayo family doesn't seem very open minded, so Wirt may have become a bit of a black sheep in the family.

    • @KrisRN23935
      @KrisRN23935 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      In that case, I just hope he's not in an Institution somewhere...

    • @moodlemcdoodle5746
      @moodlemcdoodle5746 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah I don't think it'd ever get THAT bad, just that even if Greg DID talk about his family, Wirt might be a subject he'd avoid, and Andy would be even more likely to ignore Wirt

  • @logankelly9068
    @logankelly9068 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Omg never thought of it.😱

  • @jackkraus6948
    @jackkraus6948 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The moon timeline theory seems too specific to have been intentional, so basing it on the cassette player seems like a much more viable option

  • @nave365
    @nave365 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like this theory it gives more context to lines like "that's gotta be the third craziest weekend i've ever had" being said after being abducted by aliens and placed in a zoo

  • @ashiebash1014
    @ashiebash1014 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if Greg was Wirt and he disguised as Gregory and Is like gravity falls with Stanley took Stanford's identity when something happened to Gregory

  • @uzeconshikory8174
    @uzeconshikory8174 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damayo, I'm just gonna leave this here and let this theory fall apart

  • @MrDannyloco
    @MrDannyloco 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is one small thing about the Caset Player thing.
    When Wurt's friend tells him that she doesnt have a Caset Player might also mean that Casey players were just starting to get "popular" so that means they are probably expensive, thus not much people had them.

  • @IABITVpresents
    @IABITVpresents 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    some sort of a squad
    why does TH-cam get me to this video when there are only 17 comments, I WANT LESS SCHLABBIT

  • @LegoCookieDoggie
    @LegoCookieDoggie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    TEAM INSTINCT!

  • @moodlemcdoodle5746
    @moodlemcdoodle5746 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THISSS

  • @misseli1
    @misseli1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think it's very likely, but it is a very cute headcanon, and I like it

  • @seantae
    @seantae 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do a conspiracy on what is the name of Gumball's neighbor (the mailman dude (the sort of old dude))

    • @jaxboy8127
      @jaxboy8127 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      we already know it

    • @cashlintner8492
      @cashlintner8492 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Harry gedges or Garry hedges it depends on if you want to use his real name

  • @yo_ItsDayDay
    @yo_ItsDayDay 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Ok now this theory is dumb

    • @yo_ItsDayDay
      @yo_ItsDayDay 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cqzmic why should i

    • @cqzmic6781
      @cqzmic6781 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Black Gamer Guy cause i am an angry typical internet keyboard warrior.

    • @yo_ItsDayDay
      @yo_ItsDayDay 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cqzmic I completely understand

    • @jeffrey5000
      @jeffrey5000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Black Gamer Guy ikr just like Rose QUARTZ being pink diamond or Onion being Yellow Diamond

    • @eatmyphatphuckingass
      @eatmyphatphuckingass 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Ching Master Its canon that Onion is YD where were you

  • @angelaphsiao
    @angelaphsiao 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t imagine post-halloween Greg and Wirt falling out of touch to the extent that Greg Universe falls out of touch with his family

  • @gabbiw1658
    @gabbiw1658 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know you've had enough when you start seeing stars!

  • @airumhall1367
    @airumhall1367 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Are clarence and steven universe brothers please do this theory

    • @lizzytheowl577
      @lizzytheowl577 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Airum Hall
      Nope​.

    • @airumhall1367
      @airumhall1367 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lizzy the owl well let chanlfred decided

    • @lizzytheowl577
      @lizzytheowl577 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Airum Hall
      I'm saying that the theory isn't a good one so it doesn't hold up. The channel can do it if they want but the theory won't have much evidence considering Steven has only one parent who can have multiple children and after meeting Rose it's a reasonable assumption that Greg didn't get romantically involved with other women. Plus the genetics don't really match up, Clarence is blond while Greg has brown hair. While it's possible that Greg has a recessive blond hair gene it isn't very likely and because we haven't met Greg's parents it would be taking a pretty big leap to say that he does.
      I'm saying the theory doesn't hold up. The channel probably isn't going to cover it.

    • @zipitlockit3976
      @zipitlockit3976 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +lizzy the owl doesn't clarences mom have blond hair?
      (not agreeing with this theory at all just...remembering that)

  • @user-rj4pq7lm1n
    @user-rj4pq7lm1n 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This was a dumb theory.

    • @dylanbeil9755
      @dylanbeil9755 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Garbon Bobbotop yeah but it's still fun

  • @601billionlazer
    @601billionlazer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steven Universe doesn't have holidays, but in over the garden wall they celebrate Halloween.

  • @grimwr1195
    @grimwr1195 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait a sec... Jacob said "...wirt is no longer in the the picture?" Does this mean the original OGW ending might have happened? (If you don't know, the original ending of OGW has it where only Greg makes it out of the Unknown and Wirt stays. Since the Unknown is the Afterlife, that means Wirt is dead.)
    So, this means the reason why Greg doesn't mention family rarely is because he is saddened over the death of his older brother. To better understand this, I'll do a timeline.
    1983: Greg Universe is born.
    Early 1990's: OGW happens, Wirt dies, Greg blames magic as near-death hallucination.
    Mid 2000's: Greg moves to Beach City, meets Crystal Gems.
    2009: Steven Universe is born.
    2023: Current events of Steven Universe show happens. Greg is 40, Steven is 14.

  • @BankeronAnimations
    @BankeronAnimations 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    no.

  • @Nikkimandm
    @Nikkimandm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    something im surprised wasnt mentioned in this- the music that mr universe has from when he first meets rose/ the musical stylings of such classics as "let me drive my van into your heart" match the music taste that Wirt has ( found by tapes laying around his room) almost perfectly.
    The way that greg explains things that are harder to say to steven almost parallels the way Wirt talks in OTGW as well, in terms of cheesy poetry until forced to bluntly state it.
    Now, personally, i dont believe this theory but if the theory were better grounded it would make a lot more sense greg grew up to be more like his big brother that he adored than to stay the same way he was as a child.
    I'd argue this theory would make a TON more sense if you factor in that mr universe essentially left his family and old life behind when he went on tour to try and become a rock star and as a sort of coping with missing his family at the beginning started acting more like them or listening to the music they liked.

  • @RiiConnaissance
    @RiiConnaissance 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just so happy to see that Instinct sticker on your phone!

  • @mattthompson2940
    @mattthompson2940 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:51 In The Episode "Kevin Party" Kevin Thought Steven's Name Was Clarence.

  • @RealLukeWilson
    @RealLukeWilson 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it's important to note that Over the Garden Wall originally aired the weekday following Halloween 2014, meaning that it's definitely the most obvious candidate considering the moon phase (which, honestly, is really freaking well-researched).
    That being said, Steven Universe goes out of its way to let us know that their world is an alternate *universe* (a-hem) than our own, due to the map of their world having a gigantic hole in the middle of Russia & shameless jokes made about the differences in state/city names. So if Steven Universe is in a parallel world, then it's very possible that OTGW could take place in that same reality where the phases of the moon are different from ours.
    Honestly I've long thought that cartoon creators who are friends commonly put their characters in the same alternate universe, thereby making crossovers and subtle nods to each others' works a lot more plausible, since changing the reality of our world opens up a lot of opportunities to bend the timelines, events, and physics of theirs.

  • @DirtyLaundry776
    @DirtyLaundry776 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in Steven universe the earth spins north to south. Based on screenshots I've seen of both shows I can assume the moon rotates the same way. We've never really seen a screenshot of the earth so I'm assuming the earth rotates north to south in over the garden wall too. So yeah here's so more evidence.

  • @reallytheguy
    @reallytheguy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If every Greg were perfect, we wouldn't have Greg.

  • @quillmuffins6466
    @quillmuffins6466 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If every episode were perfect we wouldn't have frederator.

  • @leebaker7344
    @leebaker7344 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i was born in 83 so i support Greg universe being born in the same year as me

  • @himikotogafanboi141
    @himikotogafanboi141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    steven universe future: im finna ruin this mans whole career

  • @PastelOddity
    @PastelOddity 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Biggest problem: OTGW takes place during the early 90s. Steven is 14, so he was born in 2003. So unless Greg rapidly aged, traveled in time, and had a baby--nope.

    • @Super50ldier
      @Super50ldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Over the Garden Wall takes place in 2014 of Halloween not the early 90s.

  • @Arlothed1no
    @Arlothed1no 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Football games also happen on Wednesdays where I live. It's been that way for a few decades. The last time a waning moon fell on Halloween on a Wednesday was 1978. That's something to consider.

  • @deslewis7422
    @deslewis7422 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe he just looks young when he's thirteen... Remember how Steven turned 14 and Connie though he was 12??? I think it's true.

  • @tomwesleyyt9763
    @tomwesleyyt9763 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is no halloween or christmas and more (except birthdays) in steven universe

  • @fulcrum7493
    @fulcrum7493 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "well we has in the first season. dude's been through a lot these last 4 seasons"

  • @Akumu74
    @Akumu74 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping so hard that there would be more plausibility to this. I would have loved that so much.

  • @rexfireamv4033
    @rexfireamv4033 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    maybe over the garden well takes place in an alternate universe while Steven universe is in the present due to phones,cars,etc while over the garden walk is in a somewhat old town filled with present things which could mean Greg (over the garden wall) is Greg (steven universe) but an alternate version

  • @notlilpcupp6724
    @notlilpcupp6724 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I almost forgot about over the garden wall... I LOVED THAT WEEKLONG SERIES!!! I watched them every time they came out

  • @HilariouslyScary
    @HilariouslyScary 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Steven Universe's universe has no holidays. I think Rebbecca Sugar said that somewhere. If that's true, then they can't be in the same universe because OTGW takes place on Halloween

  • @chrissalas2540
    @chrissalas2540 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe OTGW is a post apolctoptic future and Greg from Steven
    universe was reincarnated into Greg from OTGW

  • @lack_of_reality
    @lack_of_reality 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be awesome if we saw Greg Universe in a Halloween episode at his house, and he opens a cupboard and there's a tea kettle in it. It would be a nice homage, but if they really wanted to make it canon and have a full crossover, after Greg looks at the tea kettle, Wirt comes out from the shadows, in his costume, old and scruffy saying "it's been a while hasn't it?"