Spyderco Shaman After 3 Months - Post Price Increase
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- Bryan clearly LOVED the Spyderco Shaman at $149. Does he still love it at $182 or is he still pouting?
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I live in the Philippines. I bought one right after getting out of the hospital for my heart operation. Here, I got it for over 14,000 pesos. Initially, I was very disappointed. Blade didn't want to drop and there was some side to side play. Go figure. Usually, when blade play is present, the blade would drop. Mine didn't. Talked to a friend about selling it and I just kept it in my closet for about a month. Took it out one morning just because I realized I didn't want to give up on it. I disassembled the knife, cleaned and lubed the washers and put it back together using blue loc-tite on the pivot screws. I went in all the way thinking I would back them out little by little until I got the action I wanted. i didn't need to. First time I used the compression lock, the blade dropped shut. It has since become my favorite among my Spydercos, dethroning my old S110V PM2 in the process. One knife for everything? Absolutely!!!
Great post. It’s a shame though that we have to break down and polish internal parts to get the knives to work smoothly when paying these exorbitant prices. Should be done at the factory.
Now it’s like $203. F’k that noise. I should say I had no issue dropping $190 for a Maxamet Manix 2 lw. I want the value to be in the business end of the knife, and as much as I love Spyderco’s s30v, it’s not a $200 knife steel.
Couldn't agree more.
@@Obliticus In Europe it's like $250 as a bargain.
Spyderco makes their living on knife enthusiasts and loyalists. This kind of price jump is something the community remembers.
I wish they'd have just released it at $175 in the first place. I'd have probably still bought it and then not had to be as mad about it now.
Slicey Dicey so true! Haha
I have quit buying Spyderco's. Too many other better knives for less money.
I mean, annoyed about the price increase or not... I'm gonna buy it. There's no doubt in my MFin mind lol
$224 now
The thing about supply and demand is that we have to power to change one of those quite directly. Knife users get to tell the folks in Golden CO how we feel about their pricing by not buying.
Charles, I'm with you.
I still prefer the Manix 2 for the textured G10, full flat grind for smooth slicing, and the BBL seems more durable for hard use since a ball bearing offers more support than flat metal. The Shaman is badass though.
IMightBeWrong be real what are you gonna do to a knife that challenges any well made locks strength
Currently $231 in the summer of 2022. That’s a 54% increase from the original price.
4-23 15V mania @ $270 online with $50 plus up charge on groups. Got lucky, paid the 270 and LOVE IT.
I appreciate you making this video. If I could, I would. Unfortuantely, I sold my Shaman at a deal to a kind viewer who let me borrow some knives for review. About 2 days later, the "Spyderpocalypse" as you call it, happened. While it feels like a big price hike (and 20% increase is quite a hike), I do not feel it changes my opinion of the knife in any way. I still consider it more capable, more comfortable, more pocketable and thus more carryable, than the PM2. It is one of the very best knives. Period. Spyderco makes some of the greatest cutting tools out there. If they need to increase prices to keep doors open, I'll still buy their products. They will lose a portion of the market like this; it will be interesting to watch.
As expected, you explained it better than me. I still love it. And as I said... When I shopped around, I couldn't find anything that I'd pop on to replace it in my collection.
Doc and Slicey- I respect and value your opinions, but I think you're drinking the Spydercoolaid with a 22% increase. They are just cashing in on a big selling knife.
I found the clip totally horrible for my hands. Switched to an MXG deep carry and I loooove it. No more terrible hot spots.
On May 10 2022, blade HQ sold out of the Shaman in m4 and micarta scales in one day. Price was $245. Completely sold out in one day! I hope you are done crying over a few dollars. You gotta pay if you want to play
Can't knock 'em for looking for a profit. If the demand is high regardless of the price point then it would be silly for them NOT to increase the price. I would hope that they would keep prices low, but I can't knock a company for looking out for themselves.
Benchmade and now spyderco are just not competitive, at least in their base models, in materials and features. I mean at $180 who's shopping for a work knife? To me that's fancy knife territory and several makers are willing to accommodate me and for a work knife there's choices with equal or better materials and features for half or even a third the cost. I don't hate spyderco, I used to love them, but I'm getting better elsewhere for less.
I feel the same. I cannot justify that premium price on an EDC knife I plan to use and, gasp, abuse.
After decades of service, my Buck 110 has now gone to my son, dents (from using it as a hammer, oops, rocks work better) and all. I believe Spiderco designed this knife for that purpose, but the price increase has pushed it firmly into a gentleman's carry category.
Without gentleman's carry looks and materials.
Really is probably my favourite looking spyderco but the price is stretching the bounds of what I would pay.to many benchmades to get first under that price now.good to here how much you enjoy it though.atb paddy😀👍☘
Now it’s $230
Favorite knife. Think it's the blade shape, weight balance, and hand feel. How much would you pay for your favorite knife? Definitely 30 bucks more than initial price.
Not me.
Really like the SW finish on the blade ... looks similar to ColdSteel's treatment, and I've always liked that look. In no reality is that a $180+ knife however (IMO anyhow) so I'll wait until they are discontinued and pick one up for around $130 or so, which is a much more reasonable & realistic price (again, IMO ... if someone paid $180+ and feels it was well worth it, then that's all that really matters :)
Watching this in 2022. The shaman base price is $230 now. But everything has doubled in price since Biden took over.
Was going to grab it but not at that price pont. Lots of other stuff for 2018 that's in that price pont or a little more $200 dollar range. Think I'll stick with the PM2 in different blade steel.
One thing I should have mentioned in the review... The Smock doesn't even cost that much and it has better steel! Neither does the Amalgam that's the same size and very similar construction. At least they don't cost that much yet...
I'd like to see it compared directly to the G10 Native 5 . Actually , I'd like to see the G10 Native 5 with a compression lock .
...nice knife, and worth the price, but the significant price hike has moved it way down on my want list....have a great week...
Here we are in 2021 and I just paid $224 for the all black one.
$149 LOL....yeah, 4 years later and $231 now. Fortunately I got it on a Black Friday sale plus I had a $50 gift card, so it cost me $150 shipped, which I was ok with (although I did get an MXG deep carry clip, so technically cost me more than $150 I guess). While I love the knife, I'm not sure I could bring myself to spend $231 + tax on it.
The manix in s110v is cheaper..and for hard use I still prefer Triad lock.
daniel Dan yeah the manix 2 lw is 123
Greed. They claim they're doing everything they can to keep down costs, but that's only the first half of the sentence. The other half is "while maintaining a substantial profit margin".
I enjoyed that review! Thanks for your honesty, sir. I put the Shaman on pre-order the first time I saw it, then, about a week after I got it, I saw the price jump and was pretty shocked myself. All the Spyderco knives went up. Bumber!
5 years later. Nothing new, same steel and scales it now sell for $252 new. That’s a pretty damn big price hike. I was thinking about buying one until I saw how much you used to be able to get them for. Damn!
I’m thinking about buying one for $252 am I crazy? S30v black g10. I know it’s great but damn that’s mucho denero
@@Mitch1977your not crazy I just got one for $252
@@Drewcooks24I’m enjoying mine. I know you will also. Lotta money, but it’s worth it. Don’t mind the price if the quality is there.
@@Mitch1977 completely agree. Most of my knives are in s30v but they are all users so I don’t mind at all. Easily resharpened
@@Drewcooks24 same here. It’s familiar & I also look at it like I’ve spent way more money on much less than a good knife. No regrets no complaints
I get that people are annoyed that they bumped the price up after it was released. I get that. However, I'm willing to bet a solid 95% of the people complaining are the same people who will go out with a few friends and not think twice about dropping $40 bucks on a few beers and wings. So yeah... if you really dig the design and this is something you will use for months or possibly years, an extra $30 bucks really shouldn't be a deal breaker.
It goes for 300 euros here in Europe.... that's a ton of money for a folder especially in s30v....
Man how I'd love to be able to get one for $180. >$250 in 2023
Nope. S30V, G10, steel liners, compression lock: all old tech. $180?!?! Hell no! I had it in my hands at BladeShow 2017. Good ergos. But not enough to justify their greed. In S90V, M390 or ZDP189 more likely. This was the only new Spyderco I liked in a long time. Disappointed is to say very little.
Mark- my sentiments exactly.
MrGeerbear It might be that their Colorado made knives were produced at a loss so far. Maybe. And now they have to charge cost and profit to stay in business. In any case the effect on me, the consumer, is dissatisfaction. To stay on par with production cost increases and keep a stable market the only way is to gradually increase price, not slap a big chunk every 5 years. When I can get an excellent working knife as the ColdSteel Lawman for $75 in CTS-XHP in a relative similar size category the Shaman looks ridiculous at $180.
You are being quite nice. The mark up on knives is huge. I guarantee they were making money at $150. They saw a popular knife and wanted to cash in. Benchmade did the same thing with the Crooked River. The increase was just not as high. I feel like Paul Revere always saying, "The Chinese are coming, the Chinese are coming".
Mark Tudor - I live in Colorado, actually very near the Spyderco factory, and I can confirm that the cost of living increases here over the last 10 years have been ridiculous. Some of the highest increases in the country. So yes, I am quite sure that it has been difficult for Spyderco to pay their Golden factory workers a fair wage by Colorado standards and still keep their prices competitive with other brands making knives in lower wage countries. I'm not happy about the price hikes either, just like how I'm not happy about how much houses cost in my neighborhood now.
You are spot on Tim Lara,
I am originally from Colorado and moved back and forth to KY. I recently moved back out to CO and there was no way to survive. Almost a grand for a 2bdr 1b apartment! CO has gone down hill fast and it' so damn expensive there. I understand Spyderco Increasing the prices due to the cost of living in CO, but I wish they would have gave it a gradual price increase. Either way if someone wants a spyderco hard use knife they will buy it. I think that is why spyderco was so brazen to jump the price.
Setp.2021 I just pick one up for $225 including tax. SMH hearing these prices and reading in comments.
They realized they had a big seller and got greedy and raised the price too much. So glad I got mine at $150. Love it.
GREEDY is correct
Thats cool with me. More exclusive then if the poor losers cant afford it. Get a better job if you want better stuff.
@@kornstat3253 I can afford it. I own over 20k in knives. It's the principle dummy. But I guess you like getting fleeced. Sucker.
@@abc456f calm down the comment wasnt meant against you personally. I meant it in general but more towards the reviewer. He moaned about the price for two thirds of the clip and even said its not a bargain anymore but fairly priced. Seems like you just wanted to brag about the value of your collection wich is fair. Your whole collection is about as valuable as only my spyderco gear. Just bought a sterling silver antique Omani Jeweled Khanjar for 3400 US. Cant wait for delivery. Whats your favourite brand?
@@kornstat3253 Apologize if I took your comment as it wasn't intended. I'd have to say Chris Reeve is my favorite. Before I got my first one, I wondered if they were over hyped. But when I disassembled and reassembled it, I understood. No fiddling with centering or blade play. My favorite Chinese brand is Reate. Smooth actions and beautiful grinds. Sounds like you have an outstanding collection. I haven't dipped into full customs, but I've learned to never say never when it comes to this hobby. Been into it almost five years and my spending limit has continued to increase.
It's $224 now. Just bought one new and I love it.
I love the looks of this knife and everything about it seems perfect to me. St nicks exclusive coming out next week looks beautiful. But I still don’t think the price is justified😭😭😭😭
5 years later....$252. And to think people paid $150🙄 Honesty between Spyderco and Benchmade absolutely price gouging customers now, I almost want to stop carrying a knife period.
$149 for black and $182 for pakkawood scales would be justifiable
Sliceman- I know you really like Spyderco. Their prices have bothered me for a long time. Their materials rarely justify the price. I call it Spydergreed. For $150 you can get a Real Steel Megalodon with titanium scales, roller bearings and M390 with a 3.8 inch blade. The Delica is now $75. Really? FRN and V-10 for $75. I can get a Bestech budget line knife for $52 that has 3D milled G-10, D2 steel and bearings. Are Spyderco and Benchmade totally unaware of the competition the Chinese are bringing into the market? I'm frustrated because I want The US companies to prevail. This knife was captivating at $150, but a definite pass now.
Yes. The Megalodon has more features but it's not a knife I'd consider against this. It's larger and flashier. I think the Shaman is a much better hard use knife. But yeah... The prices of Spydercos are getting nuts. As I said, I really thought I'd find something I wanted more for $182 and I found some that I wanted AS MUCH but not more. I think Spyderco got the absolute limit at $182 or maybe missed by a bit. $170 and I wouldn't have said anything at all.
This reminds me of the BM Infidel. $450 ish for a D2 auto. Same deal here.. S30V doesn't belong in a $203 knife anymore. Especially in standard black G10. For that price, I can get US Made 20CV/M390 and CF.
How do you feel about it now that's gone up another $20? I paid $202 for mine brand new. That's the exact price I keep seeing everywhere.
I'm happy with it, but at $150 I'd have been ecstatic. Even at $182 I'd have been at least a little happier. 😃
Back after 2 years and it’s now $250
Yeah, the price increase is aggravating. But for the $, there is still nothing I would get over the Shaman. S30V is totally fine with me -- unlike some supersteels, a DIY sharpener with a Sharpmaker (yes, such as myself!) can still sharpen it to a wicked edge.
Thanks for advocating for us
Too bad the price went up, this was on my list.
It's still worth it, but now it's barely worth it rather than being a bargain like it used to be.
Too many others on my list id rather pick up ovr this. Especially now w all the sprints and exclusives out now.
Good video thanks for your take on it.
Still way worth it. Although I tend to pick up the sprint runs in my favorite steels... *cough* Cruwear...😏
$202.30 now for the cheapest version. Year over year price increases. It has gone up $53 in 13 months. Unbelievable.
get it on the secondary market
Supply and demand
$230 now
@Slicey Dicey, a Benchmade deep carry clip will actually work on it. I have the Rex 45 Rosewood version from Knife Center and love it.
I'm still ...upset? that the price increased so much relative to the other models that I still haven't bought one. Even if it were $165, that's more tolerable. I know $37 (current price is $187) isn't a lot in the long run and I've spent a whole lot on blades anyways, but the price increase to that level still irks me.
Hey Bryan! How do you feel now that they're over $200? Is it still worth it now in 2021? I've been kicking around getting one for years and I'm thinking I should jump before they go up even more. Plus; fireside's TeroTuf scales look really nice on the Shaman. Just saying. Thanks brother.
Yeah I just paid $200 for one from BladeOps just cause it was available. I saw one at one of the other big names (think it was DLT) and when I went back it was sold out.
I believe they raised the price of the Shaman to get the price further from the PM2 price so it wouldn't compete with their best seller
I think it was greed.
Jeremy Russell yeah but this would cost more to make then the pm2 I think it’s still worth it just not a crazy good deal
This and the ZT 0562 are in a constant battle for pocket time. Once a m390 sprint comes out for the Shaman, it will probably have a leg up.
I love my PM2 but the Shaman looks like the scales are more comfortable in the hand.
Bought the Shaman with Carbon Fiber...even more than that.
They’re $245 on BHQ in M4 right now.
It’s $210 now.... crazy
I have no gripes paying more money for American made products. If the cost of living goes up, wages should go up, so I would expect the cost of the product to increase too. Let’s hope the money is goin to the right places.
Bryan... Time for the "Long Term Review" Picked up a Shaman in REX 45 last week. : )
So, Bryan; the price has increased even more since this video was first released 2 years ago. The base s30v version is over $200 dollars now. Is it STILL worth it? Is this knife worth over $200? Even more on the secondary for a sprint. I have the itch for for one but, I want to know if this particular knife is worth the serious price increase (base model, I hate sprint culture and I'm not paying $300 - $500 on the secondary)
Great info! Wondering what's on your 'consider not equal' list...
I looked at a few Benchmades. The Crooked River is one I'd consider. I liked the Presidio II but this has vastly superior ergo and carry. I looked at some ZT's that just didn't appeal to me aesthetically but had better steel for sure. And a lot of Kizers. I love Kizers but slippery titanium framelocks aren't what I consider a "heavy use" knife like the Shaman is.
This is on my Spyderco seconds sale list :) If you haven't been to the seconds sale you haven't lived! haha
Was going to buy a pm2 literally a black blade pm2 is almost as expensive as what the most expensive version was. Absolute bullshit
So Brian in case you didn’t know the mothership in Golden gives 50% off msrp if you’re a veteran. So I’m a veteran and just ordered the black shaman with a msrp of $299, that means $149.50 plus $13 for shipping so that’s $162.50 total. So if you’re a veteran the best deal is going to spyderco’s own store and register as a vet. They do a quick online confirmation and the discount is processed automatically when you go through the end portion of online checkout. Just thought that you and your subscribers should know if they didn’t already. Keep up the good work!
I did NOT know that!
Slicey Dicey well I’m glad I could share this with you and your subscribers. Spyderco is truly a great company and giving a discount to our military and police officers show that they respect those that have served. I respect them for doing so. Spread the word.
Chinguss. It was $149 before the price increase w/free shipping from retailers. Not much of a deal unless they ship it it for free. I ship knives all of the time and it doesn't cost $13.
Its a Great Knife, especially if you take a file or grinder and remove the blade nub. I used a Dremel and removed it while keeping the blade cool with dunking oil, took all of 10 minutes to tape it all up.
I'm late to the party but like your videos on this knife a lot. I will have to settle for second hand example if i can find one around $140. Not sure if it'll be possible until our economy tanks next year but hope to get one before too long :D
So how do you feel now that it’s gone up another $50?
Great review man
It is now $252.00
watching this now when theyre selling for like $240... i want one but not for freaking $240
Watching this in 2022 where $189 is considered a bargain. I love this knife… imo it’s perfect.
Spyderco will either survive or fail with the price increase. My collection started with Spyderco and moved on to cold steel and never will look back. I use knives as tools and not toys or fidget spinners. Anyone looking for a superleaf?
Cold Steel is definitely growing on me. I have a Recon 1, American Lawman and a Lucky One. I don't have as many Spydercos as I used to, but I still have several and like them.
how about today? after the last price increase... $240?
God, the new black one is now $216 ridiculous...
...and NOW they are $300.00 on Amazon!!! $200.00 on Blade HQ but out of stock!!! DOH!!!
Now its 224 dollars or so in 2021and I believe I'm getting 1
Hi all. Im from 2023 and $200 dollars buys loaf of bread, eggs and milk now. Ah to be back in 2017 again when gas was under $10 a gallon and people mad at a high quality knife being $200.
So bumbed i didn't pick one up before, i cant find my damn para2😔
Looking for a new beefy edc blade, should i still pick one of these up?
Recommendations with a price tag of 200 or under are very welcome.
Looking at this video in 2023 and now it’s $252 on Amazon 😢
Oh ok lol should have watched longer. But I still think that is a deal breaker.
Yeah, those big price jumps are ridiculous. They will sell less knives for sure because customers like us won’t buy them anymore. I have a funny feeling these knife prices will be forced back down when the market fails to sustain it.
I’m going to go out on a limb here, but people who want to purchase $150, $200, $300 plus pocket knives probably don’t care about a $33 increase. Great review though.
Not worth $224... The Opfor 50% discount is great but every model worth buying is out of stock and Spyderco says keep checking back... They've all been out of stock for 9+ months....
I've noticed that when a knife company, like Spyderco, discontinues a model, and the MAP strictures no longer apply, retailers are free to set a price they feel is both competitive and profitable to them. This price is invariably well below MAP. Greed seems to be the determining factor for American knife makers' pricing strategy.
MAP pricing policy is *ridiculous* ... it's as absurdly inflated as "MSRP" prices. Plus, it removes any competitive edge dealers may have. If a knife costs the same regardless of where you buy it, then unless you already have a preferred dealer or online store, you can basically close your eyes and pick a random dealer. Plus, IMO, it is one of the main reasons so many clones are out there. If you only want the "look" of a knife, and are willing to gamble on quality and legitimacy of materials used, why spend $200+ when you can get the same exact knife, as far as looks go, for a fraction of the cost? For the average user, wanting little more than a simple box-opener or EDC with a look they like, they may prefer that option.
Would you say the G10 is textured and has the ergonomic feel of a m390 cutjack or far better?
Not as textured but more comfortable than the Cutjack. Not that the Cutjack is bad.
Still going up
It is $200 on Amazon now
It used to be $150?? I would buy that in heartbeat but can't justify near $200.
The shaman is now $200 on Amazon WOW 😮 guess I will pass at that price point. There are so many great choices in that price range.
You can have a Cold Steel ad10 for that price, plus have money for beer.. and I think the ad10 is a way better knife
At $224 now, you could definitely sell it for $150
Are you able to compare the Amalgam to this?
Whenever I get my hands on an Amalgam for more than a minute. Not buying one.
Doesn’t the kick hit your finger when closing? It almost does I’m my pm2 how could it not in this Knife?
As I said in the video... I just hold my finger a different way and it’s no problem.
Yes and no Matthew. With the shaman you learn how to close it Like Slicey mentions. For me, When the knife is just about to close my fingers move out of the way naturally. It's really no different then closing a frame lock, you usually move your finger out of the way before the blade closes down, same principle with the shaman. Your finger will move out of the way before the kick knocks against your finger.
Matt L you see I have had a few pm2 models. I can sometimes feel the kick hitting my finger. So with this I would think I definitely would in a big way. I know the guys at spyderco know more than me. But I just don’t get that as a design choice. I guess it depends on the smoothness and freeness of the pivot as well. Don’t know gotta handle one I guess.
Yeah Matthew,
I would say it all depends on peoples hands as everyone is different. But I agree, Spyderco could has designed it a little different. All they had to was take off a little piece of the choil base and it would have eliminated the issue, But I suppose doing that would have interfered with the ergonomics of the finger choil?
Current price is $230
I wish I could go back from 2024 and tell you what the price of gasoline is going to be if you think a 40 dollar jump in price in a knife is a shock! 😂
These things are over $200 now
and now it is 202$, but i sure like it--wish i had paid 149...success comes with a price, though. the leaders in any industry can, and mostly, do this. yes, you can boycott.
I'm not buying that production cost bit. Its their product and they can charge what they want. Its just putting things that were previously just expensive into the realm of untouchable for people like myself.
Yeah I really like this blade but not 180 like it. Rather buy a higher end Bali
A Higher end Bali for 180$ Good luck with that or you don't have a clue what a higher end bali is!!!!!!!!
And now, $230!!
If you go on eBay they're asking $350 for these things
Don't feel bad. I just spent $203 on one. Still worth it.
Can’t decide btw the pm2 and this shaman 😭
PM2. The Shaman is even more expensive now.
Slicey Dicey in Italy the shaman in s30v is 50 euros more than the standard pm2. The new rex45 is 100 more than pm2 in standard. 50 more than 110v
Davide Spadazzi pm2 has a really thin blade. Feels delicate.
Now its $230.......
Needs a better steel to justify that price. S30V just isn't worth that price.
I feel like this totally misses the reason that people buy, and make, >$100 knives. You see knives. From $100 to $1,000 in CPM-154. I personally think that Spyderco should CQI all of their US compression lock models to S45VN, like they did with the PM2 - but S30V isn't a detracting factor in the $200 pricepoint, just maybe not our favorite.
199,95 frakking Euros here .....
After the price increase we should boycott them.