Dougald Hine: Can we return to tradition?

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  • @EdieArt77
    @EdieArt77 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Thank you Unherd for hosting and talking to Dougald. His insights are deep and essential. I don’t agree with most of the comments here which are very critical of his message. We need new ways of relating to the world we live in, ourselves and each other and there is no clear cut path/ answer or solution. This truth seems to ‘trigger’ and bore a lot of people here…
    Thank you Dougald and Flo!

  • @andrewbartlett9282
    @andrewbartlett9282 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you Dougald - keep up the good work

  • @crw45able
    @crw45able 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Glad he was reunited with his son after Home Alone 1.

    • @Stoddardian
      @Stoddardian 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I don't follow.

    • @darknightbegins85
      @darknightbegins85 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He looks like that weirdo with the shovel

    • @guyquartermaine2685
      @guyquartermaine2685 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Haha!😂 Probably a generation thing

    • @mavrick6499
      @mavrick6499 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It took me a bit because I kept thinking of the kid's father in Home Alone and he didn't look anything like this guy. Then I finally remembered the scary guy next door. You must have been watching Christmas movies over the holidays.

  • @Failingstoic
    @Failingstoic 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Accordingly, life itself is a predicament.

    • @bobtaylor170
      @bobtaylor170 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not. The solution to it is Jesus Christ. Why don't you use the Wednesday holiday to read The Gospel of John?

    • @araucaria5173
      @araucaria5173 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Correct.

  • @farinshore8900
    @farinshore8900 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Can we return to which tradition?

    • @stephenharper5761
      @stephenharper5761 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@farinshore8900 On this showing, he means a return to traditions of smallholding, which hopelessly ignores all of the major contributors to environmental damage such as the existence of the armed forces, advertising, and more pertinently the socially unnecessary money system itself. The traditions we ought to re-embrace are those of mutual aid and solidarity which will be required to overcome the profit system.

  • @JohnLocal-v6i
    @JohnLocal-v6i 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    Sorry, he talks a lot without saying much. And then his friend's funny definition: A problem without a solution is not a problem? That leads to nowhere and everywhere at the same time... And again the hubris of the environmentalists, that they believe they can reverse not only man-made climate change, but also the much bigger changes that are happening without human intervention. There is so much dishonesty and there are so many definitions put forward by the activists and sold as absolute truth that they are now rightly perceived as a quasi-religious group. I have been involved in environmental issues for 40 years. The debate and the people leading it have changed very radically in the last 15 years, unfortunately not for the better.

    • @johnl5316
      @johnl5316 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes...And any more CO2 cannot notably affect temperature. See Princeton physicist William HAPPER on this.

    • @diegomargozzini8668
      @diegomargozzini8668 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He needs more oxygen to think clearly. He Is a charlatan

    • @EllaGreenn
      @EllaGreenn 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@johnl5316😂 how many times are you copying this comment? Saying something over and over and over doesn't make you right.

    • @allancrotch2953
      @allancrotch2953 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you for eloquently saying what my basic education comment bollocks would have said.

    • @MojoFilter
      @MojoFilter 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A painfully over complicated word salad of cognitive dissonance peppered with guilt and dressed in soured self worth.
      🥗
      Get a real job. Veterinary hospice perhaps?

  • @cavaleirosemlicenca3894
    @cavaleirosemlicenca3894 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Short answer: No
    Long answer: Possibly after a breakdown, but the likely answer is still no. Once the cat is out of the bag, it's hard to put it back in.

  • @NorfolkSceptic
    @NorfolkSceptic 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    After watching for 10 minutes, I can say that it is pointless expecting an English literature graduate, even from Oxford University, having studied Broadcast Journalism, and worked as a BBC journalist, to offer any insight into Earth's future climate, when there's no sign of STEM knowledge, only concern and worry. Typical!
    It needs an examination of the weather data collection, analysis and presentation. Why have their quality deteriorated, as the crisis escalates. Why are inconvenient observations and questions suppressed? Shouldn't the information originating from experts be better understood? There's plenty of information available, yet the Establishment refuses to participate in Informed Discussion with those having concerns about their conclusions. For example, the Sun influences the Earth's Climate, yet that is rarely, if ever, discussed. Discussing the Climate Emergency and how to stop it, isn't addressing the underlying problem: we need to understand the mechanisms involved, and the Establishment don't understand, while they have an unlimited supply of taxpayers money to waste on their misunderstanding.

    • @numberwang1256
      @numberwang1256 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Climate is changing, as it always has. Is it a crisis? Only if we allow the eejit alarmists to prevent us from developing/delivering useful solutions, based on data and rational thought, not fearful, ignorant emotion.

    • @iankclark
      @iankclark 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Watch the rest of the podcast. Or just stay in your bubble. It's up to you.

    • @NorfolkSceptic
      @NorfolkSceptic 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @iankclark We've had over 20 years of Worry, and the Establishment still haven't acknowledged that the Global Electric Circuit greatly influences the Weather and Climate.

    • @martinhd28v1
      @martinhd28v1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      No one denies that the climate changes over time and even most scientists in the so called denier camp will acknowledge that humans have some impact on the climate, albeit nominal. Assuming for the moment that they are wrong and we are having a greater impact, where's the emergency? Are masses of people flocking inland from coastal regions due to sea level rise or are property values going up? Is land rapidly becoming uninhabitable? Are we seeing massive crop failures around the world or an increase in output? Are our hospitals being filled with people who are suffering from the negative effects of climate change? Where in the world are people en masse suffering distress due to a change in the climate. There's a vast difference between routine change and an emergency.

    • @NorfolkSceptic
      @NorfolkSceptic 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@martinhd28v1
      Climate Deniers don't deny that the Earth's Climate is changing, it always has. What they say is that there is negligible evidence that changes in the 'global temperature' (which is a very inexact measurement), and deemed to be an increase, is due to Mankind's activities. This is based on the Sun being the major influence, which the Establishment refuses to consider.

  • @surfraf65
    @surfraf65 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks so much for this brilliant talk. I'm excited to learn more about these brave ideas.

  • @Ronald-gu3ft
    @Ronald-gu3ft 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    This vid should be kept as a prime example of pretentious crap.

  • @joereidbogfrog
    @joereidbogfrog 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Unherd, you have let your mum, dad and yourself down giving this pretentious, boring individual a platform. 15 minutes of this interview was more than enough.

  • @CarolineOrdHume
    @CarolineOrdHume 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Err... word salad

  • @jenniferl8714
    @jenniferl8714 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I’m stunned by all these savage comments. I thought your channel attracted open minded people. Apparently not 😮

    • @lauraharding3101
      @lauraharding3101 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Maybe the centre left woke Guard feels called out. :(

  • @jenniferl8714
    @jenniferl8714 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    As a scientist, I found this guy very interesting and refreshing

  • @jonesrjones6257
    @jonesrjones6257 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Fascinating. Not sure yet about points of agreement, but greatly appreciate the introduction of new strands for consideration.

  • @araucaria5173
    @araucaria5173 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think this fellow is saying that with climate change as with covid 19 that there is no "answer" to these problems. He is saying that humanity has to instead adapt to our changing circumstances in the world. Very much how we humans have always adapted to changes of circumstance through history.
    Live our lives the best that we can and find our own happiness however we find it.

  • @lauraharding3101
    @lauraharding3101 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No Q&A? :(

  • @jplefabuleux
    @jplefabuleux 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I really appreciated this conversation. It's very hard to meet the strange and troubling moment we find ourselves in in a way that feels both emotionally and intellectually honest. I think Dougald and Vanessa (who wrote Hospicing Modernity) both do that. I think they're both ahead of their time, though in the end what they're really pointing us towards is ancient wisdom. Glad their voices are out there.

    • @lauraharding3101
      @lauraharding3101 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've ordered both their books. I'm puzzled by the tenor of most of the comments here. Weird.

  • @johnl5316
    @johnl5316 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Actually, any more CO2 cannot notably affect temperature. See Princeton physicist William HAPPER on this.

  • @marksmith2540
    @marksmith2540 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    We do not want (to return to) regressive traditionalism. We need true progress, finally. To preserve what has value, while moving towards greater value. To protect and advance.

  • @peterdrysdale2602
    @peterdrysdale2602 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thank you! A very clear exposition of views which I have found both practical (dropped threads) and illuminating (Swedish idiosyncrasies!). Also, despite the apocalyptic view, strangely it has strengthened both hope and resolve! Sadly, as a retired finance business analyst with a very dodgy back hitting 70 - I'm not going to be much use on the land! Many thanks Unherd - another bright offering! 👏

    • @iankclark
      @iankclark 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I feel you brother. (From another 70 year old but my back's okay).

    • @johnl5316
      @johnl5316 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Any more CO2 cannot notably affect temperature. See Princeton physicist William HAPPER on this.

  • @Wokewookie
    @Wokewookie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Super existential threat vibes in the comments here. 😄 Cope, children cope, then go get yourself some chickens. 🐣🐔

    • @scottwatrous7649
      @scottwatrous7649 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And remember to lay in the cracked corn from Cargill.

  • @nikc888
    @nikc888 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    What a load of bollocks.

  • @timbrooks5811
    @timbrooks5811 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There appears to be a number of dogmatic deniers here who find comprehension difficult.

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You think the problem here is "dogma"? I think the problem here is I'm 30 minutes into this video and I still don't know what his point is.

    • @timbrooks5811
      @timbrooks5811 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The dogma is from some.
      But not getting it is something for you to deal with.
      Many of us do get what the point is.

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@timbrooks5811 I think for about one sentence he said something about Science not being able to do everything, and then he looped back around to not saying anything for another 15 minutes.

  • @stephenharper5761
    @stephenharper5761 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I don’t see how defining the environmental challenge as a ‘problem’ necessary implies that there must be a narrowly “technological” solution; why would it exclude the possibility of political solutions? After all, the answer is obviously a mass transition out of capitalism.

    • @johnl5316
      @johnl5316 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      to totalitarianism

    • @stephenharper5761
      @stephenharper5761 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ why totalitarianism?

    • @grannyannie2948
      @grannyannie2948 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Funny how climate cultists always advocate communism.

  • @erict.35
    @erict.35 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don’t know what he talked about.

    • @erict.35
      @erict.35 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      After second listening, he makes a lot of sense.

  • @ianl5882
    @ianl5882 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Heartening comments!

  • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
    @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I kept waiting for him to say what his point was and he just kept talking but the point never came. I'm 30 minutes in now and I'm still not really clear what the point is.
    EDIT: And i've just noticed, the title of this video is "Can we return to tradition?" and I'm realizing in 30 minutes so far they havn't talked about that at all.

  • @rogkeista1
    @rogkeista1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Unherd should interview someone with a thorough and substantial grounding in the subject of climate and in the nature of eco-socialism.......a pernicious ideology that has the Western world in its grip. Jeremy Nieboer would be a perfect choice.

  • @farinshore8900
    @farinshore8900 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Brilliant!

  • @nounverbnoun
    @nounverbnoun 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    8:32 “solving problems” by externalizing the costs and prioritizing immediate, short-term benefits. We ARE NOT good at solving problems. Ego and hubris are humanity’s predicament.

  • @iankclark
    @iankclark 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    We need more wisdom. Even those that are hip to civilization's discontents are too busy having feelings about it or thinking they 'know'.

  • @James-k8w3g
    @James-k8w3g 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Tedium tremendum...

  • @numberwang1256
    @numberwang1256 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Another talking-head pontificates...

    • @iankclark
      @iankclark 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Better to disseminate ideas than not. Cynicism or conceit are not a path forward.

    • @Thomas...191
      @Thomas...191 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's actually not numberwang captain

    • @johnl5316
      @johnl5316 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iankclark Any more CO2 cannot notably affect temperature. See Princeton physicist William HAPPER on this.

    • @iankclark
      @iankclark 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ very plausible. I’m aware of his argument that there’s an asymptote.

    • @rumination2399
      @rumination2399 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That’s what these shows are for aren’t they? He’s the best I’ve heard in a while. People need a new more realistic and practical path

  • @thierryf2789
    @thierryf2789 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    After 15 minutes I’m still waiting for this guy to say something, and for the interviewer to interrupt this garbage .

  • @BreezeTalk
    @BreezeTalk 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    What kind of shit titles and thumbnails do we have on this channel?

  • @diegomargozzini8668
    @diegomargozzini8668 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Soft tirant

  • @rogkeista1
    @rogkeista1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Good grief! This guy is long-winded. He pontificates with unnecessary verbosity. This is the problem with intellectuals. In a few words, there is no climate crisis and human CO2 emissions do not cause global warming. We need more CO2. That's all. The rest is boring. But Flo is great eye candy.

  • @robmears2434
    @robmears2434 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    About minute 34 i recognized an important point...

    • @mike1117777
      @mike1117777 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We are actually at a historical low in CO2, the plants are craving more, Dr Patrick Moore and many others.

  • @mmare1263
    @mmare1263 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Which tradition? Burning witches on the stake? Working children from age of 5, like Victorian era? Using lead-gasoline? Really? Which traditions are good to bring back 🤔?

  • @S.J.L
    @S.J.L 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Abrahamic religion is not a European tradition but is hostile to native European tradition, religion and culture.

    • @jps0117
      @jps0117 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It depends on how far back you go and call something "native" or "tradition". There aren't many Druids anymore.

    • @thenewmayorofcrazytown7392
      @thenewmayorofcrazytown7392 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You sound like a Nazi

    • @S.J.L
      @S.J.L 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @jps0117 It's objectively not native to Europe and hostile to Europe.

    • @thenewmayorofcrazytown7392
      @thenewmayorofcrazytown7392 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You sound like a Nazi

    • @NorthernLycanthrope
      @NorthernLycanthrope 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely! Salvationist, deniurge worshiping, abrehamic religons are the problem!!!

  • @TimG-lq1pe
    @TimG-lq1pe 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    (after listening for a while) Yea, i dont trust these kinds of people. There's something wrong with them.
    (We all have issues but these people are not on the raod to light)

  • @kevanmccutcheon7351
    @kevanmccutcheon7351 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Poor presentation (as usual, Flo) of much nuanced thinking with a remarkable lack of substance. He is almost like a politician, and how he avoids saying anything definitive. Apparently, the interviewer assumed that everybody knows what his book and various projects have already asserted.

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was just wondering this myself, was there some part of this video I missed where they explained what his ideas are?

  • @jayjam9106
    @jayjam9106 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🥜🌰🌰🥜

  • @johnl5316
    @johnl5316 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Any more CO2 cannot notably affect temperature. See Princeton physicist William HAPPER on this.

  • @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
    @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Prob not

  • @diegomargozzini8668
    @diegomargozzini8668 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Noth8ng je claims is happening. He is a liar.

    • @Frustwell
      @Frustwell 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The very first thing he says is 100 percent true. The environmental movement now cares more about politicizing abstractions of our planet than it does protecting local environments. It would industrialize wind and solar and spoil stretches of wilderness just to satisfy its own conscience.

  • @RifMilesOlsen
    @RifMilesOlsen 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another British pessimist, pessimism is such a lazy cop-out.

  • @BreezeTalk
    @BreezeTalk 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good talk, but terrible titles and thumbnails.

  • @bkbland1626
    @bkbland1626 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who cares?

  • @andrejota1151
    @andrejota1151 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I view Climate change and flat earthers as the same people.

  • @jamesjc
    @jamesjc 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what's he saying 🤔

  • @rocketphewl
    @rocketphewl วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    .
    what planet does he live on.? is it a gas giant too.? maybe he's talking about climate on his Uranus...
    .

  • @asknwclips7672
    @asknwclips7672 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    this guy ignores political science, lol, No, not the stuff one may take a degree in at Uni, I'm talking about the raw political machinations of using "science", as a political bludgeon, lol

    • @iankclark
      @iankclark 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@asknwclips7672 I think he’s aware of that and that it’s part of the dysfunction.

    • @johnl5316
      @johnl5316 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Any more CO2 cannot notably affect temperature. See Princeton physicist William HAPPER on this.

  • @wibruleswoefully9926
    @wibruleswoefully9926 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Unherd, look at the comments.
    People aren’t happy with this nothing-to-add inane waffler.
    You’re endorsing him by having him on.
    Don’t expect you can just get away with this.
    Take responsibility. Account for yourself!

    • @timbrooks5811
      @timbrooks5811 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Looks like a new Herd (just old, Tories - irrelevant and dogmatic) who wish to cancel that which they can't comprehend . Stick to the Telegraph - you have no place here where we have pen minds and eschew slogans, clichés, and group think. Take responsibility yourself and leave this place - it's not for you.

    • @wibruleswoefully9926
      @wibruleswoefully9926 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tim Tim Tim, stop painting two big eyes on your arse cheeks with lipstick we are mistaking it for your face all the time, and who could blame us.. we are only human afterall arsebreath..

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@timbrooks5811 I'm an American, I have no idea what a Torie is but I assume it's some kind of light truck.
      Wibrules is wright, this guy spoke for 30 minutes without saying almost anything before I gave up on watching this.

  • @glennmitchell9107
    @glennmitchell9107 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We cannot return to tradition in a world where technology advances as quickly as it does and where each generation has its own name. Maintaining a tradition requires that the tradition provide some necessary social utility. It's not obvious that most traditions are that vital.
    Humanity is thriving, in total. Which tradition are we lacking that threatens humanity's existence? Life only appears to be more chaotic because people expose themselves to more information than they used to. We have not yet adapted to this information rich environment. We need to become less reactive to garbage information.
    We also need to respect our fathers and forefathers, which we don't.

    • @DylanYoung
      @DylanYoung 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Respecting our fathers and forefathers is a tradition.

    • @glennmitchell9107
      @glennmitchell9107 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DylanYoung It's another tradition that we don't follow.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My part of London collapsed into Mogadishu in the 90s.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The tradition of having children has gone.

    • @grannyannie2948
      @grannyannie2948 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Falling birthrates is our real problem in the future.