Yamaha 8310Z Vs. Schilke B6: Two Great Lead Horns

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  • @MrGiannimarinucci
    @MrGiannimarinucci 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Jonathan, Thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos!!! The Shew Horn is not really a just a lead horn, it is used by many many small group jazz players to great effect. It is also a multi bore horn (.445 at the valves but large bore in other places) A very unique instrument!!! Gordon is right about the lineage of the horn. Keep up the good work mate.

  • @SteveKnowsTrumpet-ue6eg
    @SteveKnowsTrumpet-ue6eg ปีที่แล้ว

    You sound great on both of them . I am a big fan of the old Yamaha 6310Z that preceded the current Bobby Shew model horns by at least 10 years, I believe. Sounding great, Jonathan! Thank you.

    • @JonathanMilam1
      @JonathanMilam1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve, thanks for commenting. :) I've tried a few times to get one of the 6310Z's, but it hasn't happened yet. Both of these horns were very fine players. Have a great week, Steve.

  • @pebblebeach8517
    @pebblebeach8517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Z sounds great nice review

  • @Clunie999
    @Clunie999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shew surprises me. Really nice sound.

    • @JonathanMilam1
      @JonathanMilam1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And SO much easier to play than my last one. Fun horn; very light, easy blow, and a big bell that does produce a big, pretty tone. I’m pretty sure this is the same bell as Wayne Bergeron’s LA model Yamaha.

  • @b6schilke996
    @b6schilke996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my B6. Big band lead player and it never disappointed after 22 years.

    • @JonathanMilam1
      @JonathanMilam1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a great horn. Mine was extremely efficient in below High C, but I felt a bit choked above that. You've become used to yours and play it efficiently, I suppose?

    • @b6schilke996
      @b6schilke996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonathanMilam1 I was always a Maynard and Bill fan. Been playing on 6A4A since 1974. Didn’t get the B6 until 1999.

  • @GordonHudson
    @GordonHudson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Here is the story of the Shew Horn as I heard it: The Yamaha 8310Z is a development from the 6310Z. This was based on the 6310B that Bobby Shew previously played on. It, in turn, was based on a particular Martin Committee owned by Bob McCoy (Tonight Show band, Sesame Street band etc) which had been copied by Yamaha and sold as the 636. This was a Kenosha Committee. Shew copied the feel of it but McCoy wouldn’t let him borrow it to do a proper copy. He developed this into the 6310B and then the 6310Z.

    • @JonathanMilam1
      @JonathanMilam1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting, Gordon. thanks for posting!

    • @intrepidpooch
      @intrepidpooch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s right, Bobby told me the same thing. The original Shew Yamaha is a modified copy of a Martin Committee (not a Schilke).

  • @golf4funjn532
    @golf4funjn532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great players!

    • @JonathanMilam1
      @JonathanMilam1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great horns, semi-average player. :)

  • @FlowJunkie65
    @FlowJunkie65 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool comparison, Jonathan. I think you tend to play more smoothly/fluidly on the Yamaha. Did it feel/sound that way to you? Both horns sound really great though!

    • @JonathanMilam1
      @JonathanMilam1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sean; Greetings! The Schilke is a very nice horn, super efficient. Having said this, this Z is really nice. They all have a great bell, but this one is far more open than my last one. it’s a very good player. I’ve got it up for sale, priced a bit high, but I should I list it. Such a nice horn!

  • @juhamakinen2804
    @juhamakinen2804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi J have you been thinging my idea that mouthpiece video ?

  • @nrcg2317
    @nrcg2317 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have and love both these horns, but the 8310Z is a little better to handle than the B6.
    😊

    • @JonathanMilam1
      @JonathanMilam1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for commenting - I appreciate it. I've tried to buy the new 8310Z, and I've also tried to pick up a newer B6... in time maybe. Both are, potentially at least, such nice horns.

  • @pebblebeach8517
    @pebblebeach8517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive hitting “f” …..you don’t give yourself enough credit on range you play with plenty of power .

    • @JonathanMilam1
      @JonathanMilam1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, thank you. Roger Ingram told a friend of mine in a private lesson, 'If you want to play high on a trumpet, you have to practice high.' Simple - but really profound. I almost never play above a C in practice, then I wonder why and F above C intimidates me. :) Thanks for the kind words though!

  • @valerymedvedev5806
    @valerymedvedev5806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yamaha is more brightly.

  • @tedtedsen269
    @tedtedsen269 ปีที่แล้ว

    i play the poore mans yamaha 6335g not a prohorn but its ok for my playing

    • @JonathanMilam1
      @JonathanMilam1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ted, it's funny but I had very few 6335's. I had a LOT of the 8335's; I was in Houston and bought probably 8 or 10 from High School kids that had quit playing. I feel like I've missed something - because I know there are some great 6335's out there. Glad you got one - and I'm trusting it serves you well. :) Thanks very much for commenting.