My argument about the speed limitation is; how can they limit a speed an E-bike to 15.5 MPH and NOT limit car engines to be limited to 70 MPH? just because it can go faster, doesn't mean you will go faster. Infact going slower on a higher power E-Bike just results in a greater range , most people that want to buy a E-Bike want the reassurance that they will have enough power to make the trip, not max the motor out and ride around full throttle do maximum speed! I don't drive and never have, i have heart failure so peddling a push bike is not recommended. so a E-Bike would be great, but not with these limitation. I am forced to use public transport thanks to these laws.
@@andysmalley6889 to be fair, the speed limit at 15.5mph isn’t bad. Torque however is an issue but bike companies are now selling bikes that have 70-90nm bikes with 250w restricted motors and 36v batteries that are just as fast up to 15.5mph as their 750w 48v counterparts and in some cases faster. When you realise you don’t need the speed you think you do it’s good. I’d still like 20mph though. But small steps. The use of a throttle up to 15.5mph would be a good start and remove a barrier to entry to e-bikes for a lot of people.
@@ModProjects4306 Totally agree. If you can easily pedal at 15.5 mph, what difference does it make if you have a throttle capable of the same speed? It can't be to do with safety, we know that much. I think the speed limit for ebikes should be raised to 20mph, for both pedal assist AND throttle. If you want to go faster than that you should probably be looking at a petrol powered motorcycle of some description.
@@gedofgont1006 I’ve limited my Engwe Engine Pro to 20mph but because of the way the torque sensor works I rarely get passed 16mph on the flat. I’ve done the speed thing and if I was younger I’d pursue it further, but I own a Yamaha Tricity 300 and that does 70mph … that’s thrilling enough nowadays.
Ebikes 2025 In 2025, new law will be going from 250w to 500w with speed staying at 15.5mph with a plus side being a throttle going from 3.7mph to 15.5mph the same as max speed which is good as 3,7mph is silly. They should allow whatever watt motor you want as this will not let you go any faster but get up hills easier that will assist those with health mobility issues. I have a 1000w which I bought in 2023 when I didn’t know about ebike laws. So am thinking to buy a 250w, but as this will change am holding on a little longer, I hope they can allow up to a 1000w motor before I have to sell this lovely bike for a 500w, but I think am dreaming. The laws are so harsh and unfair on those who have mobility issues or age against them. I do hope things can get better. There are many cars and motorbikes that can go over 100mph but can be driven on uk roads providing they stay within the speed limits, so it should be the same for ebikes.
My reasons for hoping for more wattage ( legally) is to get up steep hills in my area. I have a full motorcycle licence . But not everyone does, and they shouldn't need to. But an electric bicycle is more useful in a lot of situations and helps keep fit.
I am 58 and have crippling Arthritis - drive a Hybrid Car and wanted an EBIKE = Looking at the JANSNO X70 But came across these videos stating the 250 watt pathetic motor Rule, the X70 as 750watts but restricted can only do 15 miles an hour which would be fine for what I need it for..... Now cancelled the order and will carry on using the car adding to the emissions, pathetic 1000w should be standard to cope with the hills.....
well allot of fire could be the battery can handle say 3amp charge and some daft people go out and buy a 5 amp charger thinking it will charge faster and what it does is start a fire so people need to educate them self on proper use
The only reason they come down on E-bikes is that they haven't worked out how to Tax them, yet! I'm looking to get one to get to and from work when it's dry. Using my car FAR less.
@@BenLambert-v1r exactly what I’ve said. Until they work out a way to monetize the ownership of these things the government are going to continue to make owners lives a misery.
Awaiting delivery of my ebike, my main use for it will be commuting to work, I live in a rural area, with terrible public transport, an ebike is my only credible alternative to driving my diesel vehicle.
recently got my 1st ebike L20 SE..ivve been pretty much housebound due to serious health...ive been out more in the last 2 weeks than i have in ten years, my mental health has improved and that smile of joy i get has returned...the amount of people i talk when out is great..15 mph is more than enough for me, Im 56 and wish i got one years a go..
You are so correct. My ebike changed my life. It allows me to get about as a disabled older person. My recommendation, put a " smile your on camera 📷 " sticker on the back. Trust me it works, cars lorries etc, they give me room and folks leave me the fook alone when I'm out. 😊
@@darnstewart it's 4 by 4 inch and is more a sign than a sticker. It's held on with cable ties and looks like a number plate in bright yellow. You could see, trust me
I've noticed that on the Engine Pro 2.0 the pedal assist level works as to reach a certain speed rather than that the torque sensor should get a certain amount of leg power amplification, no? I find it a bit strange. Maybe I'm missing something in the settings though. Thanks!
@@moneypizzle it’s the nature of the torque sensors I guess. I’ve tried some and they’ve been terrible. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx1joytszpNXb_LBt5UfR-ZH2mU5NdHlNW?si=5H_BOds34vvZesIr
also id like to add when you got open borders then all there laws are wrong because its like these people can come over with no id but we get hastle for ebike
I'd love to use an ebike to to get work any back but how the laws are I'm not risking having the wrong one and getting points on my licence, another joke is I've got a full unrestricted motorbike licence and I'm getting quotes of £1200 for a 125cc 🤦
Love my Ebike and i ride responsible. Its a great way to travel. Ebikes cut pollution in urban areas the more people using bicycle and Ebikes and E-scooters the better. But Government and police are going make using one harder. Not easier. The law should be like USA Ebike law. It makes sense
The government doesn't give a toss about climate change, nor do they care about peoples health either, especially when they are past working age. It's just power and money always the priority. In fact next general election if a party leader stood up and said im doing this for the power and the money, I might actually consider voting for them on the basis of at least they're being honest unlike any politician ever.
Exactly, it really winds me up. My ebike has a 750w motor, the MSM would have joe public believe that I'm tearing around on this untameable monster like a scene from hell rider due to how 'indredibly powerful' it is (which we all know it really isn't). Truth is I also have an analog gravel bike which due to it's weight and geometry will out pace any regular ebike in any scenario...I can go where I want with that though, it's just ridiculous.
This is all I could find in the Labour Party Manifesto 2024 relating to cycling. Cars remain by far the most popular form of transport. Labour will maintain and renew our road network, to ensure it serves drivers, cyclists and other road users, remains safe, and tackles congestion Labour will give mayors the power to create unified and integrated transport systems, allowing for more seamless journeys, and to promote active travel networks.
@@Nial_Q if you want a real laugh go read The Green Party’s view on e-bikes. You’d think they’d be all over this. 😂 “Remain” because of rubbish laws around the alternatives.
I have a 50cc motorbike that does 30mph and i dont understand why ebikes aren't allowed the same speed and power, i think my engine makes about 2500 watts at maximum revs. If they want to keep the same 15.5mph then atleast let us have 1000w of power so the bikes arent slowing to a crawl as soon as they encounter a slight incline.
@@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357 750w = 1hp. This allows the bike more torque, but like I said in the video … it’s all controlled by the controller anyway. In the video I did last week going down into Leeds I was doing nearly 30mph down hill, which isn’t illegal, no assistance needed but it’s ridiculous that going up hill I’m only allowed 250w and no throttle when this is the point I need it most. 🤷🏻♂️
There should at least 3 category of Electric bikes Cat 3 /-20mph any one can Buy and Ride no Throttle anything above should fall into /Cat 2 Cat 2 - 30mph with throttle, 500 750 1000 2000w. You need a license, car, motorbike etc. Above 30mph should fall into/ Cat 1. Cat 2 /And Cat 1/ Cannot be brought or sold without being registered, using your license The REGISTRED keeper has a responsibility of selling it on, same as cars and motorbikes V5. They need to be registered with the D.V.L.A You need a license Manufactures, sellers should have a responsibility to who they sell, and how that data is used and kept There should be a new line added on to your driving license E bikes E scooters etc. DVLA When you get your Car insurance, you should also be able to get E bike insurance and road tax at the same time. Cat 1/ E Bikes 30mph That need MOT, License, insurance NUMBER PLATE etc. Yes they need to be registered with the DVLA , To get some sort of closure on this
i got the pro 2 750w and throttle, I use it in ass 2 and 3 ,15mph is more than fast enough ,if you want more buy a moped, im 70 done 600 miles in 2 weeks and lost 1 and half stone . its idiots riding about doing 30 to 40 miles an hour that are the problem. and you cant fix stupid. i get 40 miles out my battery and i carry a spare so no worries .
Im seriously going to buy the Ovia. Im fucked,i want to get out,im going mad! No government in this country and certain other countries are not interested because they get no money from it,no tax,no fuel duty etc. No revenue! Labour say they are the party of the People? Ive just retired i want to live whats left. Well said you! 👍
Oh i see! I look forward to an update if you have time to do it before the likes of me make a big mistake with our pension money,so i welcome it. Thankyou for your replies. Grateful. Robert.
I doubt we'll see any change to the ebike rules in this parliament. During the consultation, all the industry bodies were against changing the motor power/throtlle/speed limits. Even people in the last government don't really know how the consultation got started as they weren't particularly interested in changing the law. I think what is more likely is a crack down by the police on illegal ebikes, after there is an increase in the number of pedestrians being injured by idiots on high power bikes.
@@HoratioChinn I know. I’ve previously mentioned the feedback from the industry bodies such as the motorcycle association and Brompton Cycles (I mean, no vested interests by either of these parties, right?) Like I said … the sensible pay for the actions of idiots and with even bigger idiots running the country it feels like we’re banging an empty drum. But I’ll keep going.
Well said m8 I am 56 and have anxiety and depression and thinking of getting a m1 pro to get me out and about .but I think it will make me scared to go out because if I am stop and thay take it off me I will be stuck because I don't like travelling in cars or buses . Hope things change soon
Just get what you want, I have a brain injury from years ago ( car crash), had to learn to walk and talk again. I'm on my 3rd ebike now, I use it all the time and it puts me in a better mood to be out, I've ridden in most weathers including snow 😂, mine is a Cannondale and my wife has an Engwe Ep2 pro. Remember, you don't have to de restrict your bike.... no problem then. I didn't go out for nearly 5 years after what happened to me, now I design cycling jerseys AND want to go out, plus there's plenty of people on here to chat to. Enjoy 👍
Keep it legal and you should have no problem. The motor's 250W, so just don't fit the throttle, and don't de-restrict it. A mate of mine has one and he's had no trouble from the Plod.
I don't think people have any concept of speed. 30 mph is easily achievable on an analogue bike, and those that live in the city, have a look at your cars average speed whilst out and about. I used to regularly struggle to average much more than 20mph. Getting hit at 20by a car vs a bike. No brainer. Bike doesn't require fossil fuels no brainer. How come you can buy a Porsche and do 150mph on a 70mph road but u get a bike that can do 27mph and everyone loses their shit. Backwards world where things only progress if some rich twat can make some money out of it zzzzzz
@@mikesmith1587 couldn’t agree more. I have a modified car that’s good for 180mph … I don’t drive everywhere at that speed. If you watch my video on the mental health benefits of e-bikes and see my average speed on that over a 58 mile ride it’s barely worth mentioning.
I go out on my ebike more than my car. I'm doing my bit for climate. I have a car for the long journeys. But for going to the shop, ect, i use the ebike. People in cars over take me at 15mph, 20mph not so much and 25-27mph never overtake me. My belief is on foot paths 15.5 mph is ok. I always slow down when passing people and have courtesy for other people. But, on the road when your with vehicles its safer to be going 25mph, i dont have people overtaking me, ( unless and idiot trying to get home in a hurry) throttle is way better in many situations, i use throttle when i need to. It has saved me a couple of times, from cars, not ebikes. They are the way forward, and when the government see that, the better. They go on about saving the planet. Here, have a cardbored straw. But, when it comes to the things that would make a massive impact, they are like no, you can't do this and that. 500w isn't enough for heavier people. 1000w - 1500w is ok for that. It's not the power. But the speed they should be focusing on. Bmw m3, etc. can do massive speed, and they are legal. But the speed limit on a motorway is 70. You tell me that they do that speed. Because they dont! 15mph on foot maths but 25mph on roads is safer. They need to look at this. Its the speed they should be governing, not the watts of a motor.
@@mattkinger4173 brilliant. What annoys me the most is the fact that hire scooters can have a 12.5mph working throttle … which begs the question why can’t we? Its ludicrous. 🤷🏻♂️
@ModProjects4306 exactly, I've had a couple scooter that can do 20mph. They are great for commuting and don't take up much space. But, I feel safer on a bike. I've seen the scooters dumped wherever they take up space on city streets. Looks a mess. Why can't people use their own ones. That's right, as you said, they won't make as much money from it. They don't care about climate, etc. Just the lining in their pockets
Take away the winter payments from people who worked all their life. But keep on giving the bums who have kids £90 a week per child every Holiday. That they spend on lavish items.
@@athollmcnicoll1028 the consultation isn’t about a speed increase, it’s about more powerful motors (more torque) and the legal use of a throttle up to 15.5mph.
you are right 11 billion would buy all us oap's and disabled who might want an E bike, we could even rent them on the cheap or buy them on the drip, But 15 miles an hour stupid rule hoofed out by morons 30 miles an hour far better for the road and 15 too fast for the pavement.
sick of this Coountry and all the laws and taxes. Its a joke this regime!
My argument about the speed limitation is; how can they limit a speed an E-bike to 15.5 MPH and NOT limit car engines to be limited to 70 MPH? just because it can go faster, doesn't mean you will go faster.
Infact going slower on a higher power E-Bike just results in a greater range , most people that want to buy a E-Bike want the reassurance that they will have enough power to make the trip, not max the motor out and ride around full throttle do maximum speed!
I don't drive and never have, i have heart failure so peddling a push bike is not recommended. so a E-Bike would be great, but not with these limitation.
I am forced to use public transport thanks to these laws.
@@andysmalley6889 to be fair, the speed limit at 15.5mph isn’t bad. Torque however is an issue but bike companies are now selling bikes that have 70-90nm bikes with 250w restricted motors and 36v batteries that are just as fast up to 15.5mph as their 750w 48v counterparts and in some cases faster.
When you realise you don’t need the speed you think you do it’s good.
I’d still like 20mph though. But small steps. The use of a throttle up to 15.5mph would be a good start and remove a barrier to entry to e-bikes for a lot of people.
@@ModProjects4306
Totally agree. If you can easily pedal at 15.5 mph, what difference does it make if you have a throttle capable of the same speed? It can't be to do with safety, we know that much.
I think the speed limit for ebikes should be raised to 20mph, for both pedal assist AND throttle.
If you want to go faster than that you should probably be looking at a petrol powered motorcycle of some description.
@@gedofgont1006 I’ve limited my Engwe Engine Pro to 20mph but because of the way the torque sensor works I rarely get passed 16mph on the flat. I’ve done the speed thing and if I was younger I’d pursue it further, but I own a Yamaha Tricity 300 and that does 70mph … that’s thrilling enough nowadays.
Ebikes 2025
In 2025, new law will be going from 250w to 500w with speed staying at 15.5mph with a plus side being a throttle going from 3.7mph to 15.5mph the same as max speed which is good as 3,7mph is silly. They should allow whatever watt motor you want as this will not let you go any faster but get up hills easier that will assist those with health mobility issues. I have a 1000w which I bought in 2023 when I didn’t know about ebike laws. So am thinking to buy a 250w, but as this will change am holding on a little longer, I hope they can allow up to a 1000w motor before I have to sell this lovely bike for a 500w, but I think am dreaming. The laws are so harsh and unfair on those who have mobility issues or age against them. I do hope things can get better. There are many cars and motorbikes that can go over 100mph but can be driven on uk roads providing they stay within the speed limits, so it should be the same for ebikes.
I’ve rode bicycles, motorbikes etc all my life, 59 years. The U.K. government have never been interested in two wheels.
My reasons for hoping for more wattage ( legally) is to get up steep hills in my area.
I have a full motorcycle licence .
But not everyone does, and they shouldn't need to.
But an electric bicycle is more useful in a lot of situations and helps keep fit.
@@bobgc1954 well said.
I am 58 and have crippling Arthritis - drive a Hybrid Car and wanted an EBIKE = Looking at the JANSNO X70 But came across these videos stating the 250 watt pathetic motor Rule, the X70 as 750watts but restricted can only do 15 miles an hour which would be fine for what I need it for..... Now cancelled the order and will carry on using the car adding to the emissions, pathetic 1000w should be standard to cope with the hills.....
well allot of fire could be the battery can handle say 3amp charge and some daft people go out and buy a 5 amp charger thinking it will charge faster and what it does is start a fire so people need to educate them self on proper use
went to benidorm last week they all use them and they have special lanes. brilliant
The only reason they come down on E-bikes is that they haven't worked out how to Tax them, yet! I'm looking to get one to get to and from work when it's dry. Using my car FAR less.
@@BenLambert-v1r exactly what I’ve said. Until they work out a way to monetize the ownership of these things the government are going to continue to make owners lives a misery.
Awaiting delivery of my ebike, my main use for it will be commuting to work, I live in a rural area, with terrible public transport, an ebike is my only credible alternative to driving my diesel vehicle.
£18, roughly £9 of that goes straight to the gov which is why they don't want to speed up adoption, its criminal
@@samphire they’ll end up taxing electricity at a higher rate. It’s just thievery on a giant scale.
@@ModProjects4306 yeah and you just know that they'll end up taxing people with solar installations somehow who don't rely on the grid
@@samphire yep. Policy creep … the next thing you know they’ll have us all in hamster wheels.
Love e-bikes, but id never charge the battery overnight while asleep.
This government doesn't give a toss about any of us.
Best truthful comment ever
recently got my 1st ebike L20 SE..ivve been pretty much housebound due to serious health...ive been out more in the last 2 weeks than i have in ten years, my mental health has improved and that smile of joy i get has returned...the amount of people i talk when out is great..15 mph is more than enough for me, Im 56 and wish i got one years a go..
@@shaunmk if you’ve not watched this buddy … th-cam.com/video/uKskL_swb7w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=O2TekQeTcz0DsByi
You are so correct. My ebike changed my life. It allows me to get about as a disabled older person.
My recommendation, put a " smile your on camera 📷 " sticker on the back. Trust me it works, cars lorries etc, they give me room and folks leave me the fook alone when I'm out. 😊
How big is your sticker? I might have to get very close to be able to read your sticker. I understand the sentiment behind the idea.
@@darnstewart it's 4 by 4 inch and is more a sign than a sticker. It's held on with cable ties and looks like a number plate in bright yellow. You could see, trust me
It's all about taxation.
500w is better, especially for hilly cities but 15 mph is still too slow. Don't care for throttle much.
I've noticed that on the Engine Pro 2.0 the pedal assist level works as to reach a certain speed rather than that the torque sensor should get a certain amount of leg power amplification, no? I find it a bit strange. Maybe I'm missing something in the settings though. Thanks!
Remove your throttle, you soon find yourself working out how the gears, torque sensor and pedal power come into play.
@@ModProjects4306 Already did that: removed/disabled since it's illegal to have that without insurance where I live in the EU. 🤔
@@moneypizzle it’s the nature of the torque sensors I guess. I’ve tried some and they’ve been terrible. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx1joytszpNXb_LBt5UfR-ZH2mU5NdHlNW?si=5H_BOds34vvZesIr
also id like to add when you got open borders then all there laws are wrong because its like these people can come over with no id but we get hastle for ebike
I'd love to use an ebike to to get work any back but how the laws are I'm not risking having the wrong one and getting points on my licence, another joke is I've got a full unrestricted motorbike licence and I'm getting quotes of £1200 for a 125cc 🤦
@@itsdaley plenty of legal ones around. My latest review is for a uk legal folder.
Love my Ebike and i ride responsible. Its a great way to travel. Ebikes cut pollution in urban areas the more people using bicycle and Ebikes and E-scooters the better. But Government and police are going make using one harder. Not easier. The law should be like USA Ebike law. It makes sense
The government doesn't give a toss about climate change, nor do they care about peoples health either, especially when they are past working age. It's just power and money always the priority.
In fact next general election if a party leader stood up and said im doing this for the power and the money, I might actually consider voting for them on the basis of at least they're being honest unlike any politician ever.
@@Twistededgemedia but the reality is that all European governments and the MSM are demonising e-bikes. I wonder why? 😉
Exactly, it really winds me up. My ebike has a 750w motor, the MSM would have joe public believe that I'm tearing around on this untameable monster like a scene from hell rider due to how 'indredibly powerful' it is (which we all know it really isn't).
Truth is I also have an analog gravel bike which due to it's weight and geometry will out pace any regular ebike in any scenario...I can go where I want with that though, it's just ridiculous.
This is all I could find in the Labour Party Manifesto 2024 relating to cycling.
Cars remain by far the most popular form of transport. Labour will maintain and renew our road network, to ensure it serves drivers, cyclists and other road users, remains safe, and tackles congestion
Labour will give mayors the power to create unified and integrated transport systems, allowing for more seamless journeys, and to promote active travel networks.
@@Nial_Q if you want a real laugh go read The Green Party’s view on e-bikes. You’d think they’d be all over this. 😂
“Remain” because of rubbish laws around the alternatives.
I have a 50cc motorbike that does 30mph and i dont understand why ebikes aren't allowed the same speed and power, i think my engine makes about 2500 watts at maximum revs. If they want to keep the same 15.5mph then atleast let us have 1000w of power so the bikes arent slowing to a crawl as soon as they encounter a slight incline.
@@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357 750w = 1hp. This allows the bike more torque, but like I said in the video … it’s all controlled by the controller anyway. In the video I did last week going down into Leeds I was doing nearly 30mph down hill, which isn’t illegal, no assistance needed but it’s ridiculous that going up hill I’m only allowed 250w and no throttle when this is the point I need it most. 🤷🏻♂️
There should at least 3 category of Electric bikes
Cat 3 /-20mph any one can Buy and Ride no Throttle anything above should fall into /Cat 2
Cat 2 - 30mph with throttle, 500 750 1000 2000w. You need a license, car, motorbike etc.
Above 30mph should fall into/ Cat 1.
Cat 2 /And Cat 1/ Cannot be brought or sold without being registered, using your license The REGISTRED keeper has a responsibility of selling it on, same as cars and motorbikes V5.
They need to be registered with the D.V.L.A You need a license
Manufactures, sellers should have a responsibility to who they sell, and how that data is used and kept
There should be a new line added on to your driving license E bikes E scooters etc. DVLA
When you get your Car insurance, you should also be able to get E bike insurance and road tax at the same time.
Cat 1/ E Bikes 30mph That need MOT, License, insurance NUMBER PLATE etc.
Yes they need to be registered with the DVLA , To get some sort of closure on this
All about £££ and Control. BS
i got the pro 2 750w and throttle, I use it in ass 2 and 3 ,15mph is more than fast enough ,if you want more buy a moped, im 70 done 600 miles in 2 weeks and lost 1 and half stone . its idiots riding about doing 30 to 40 miles an hour that are the problem. and you cant fix stupid. i get 40 miles out my battery and i carry a spare so no worries .
@@TheUnionjacked riiiight. Where in this video does it mention condoning more speed?
Some of the newer chargers are problematic as they are not robust
Im seriously going to buy the Ovia. Im fucked,i want to get out,im going mad! No government in this country and certain other countries are not interested because they get no money from it,no tax,no fuel duty etc. No revenue! Labour say they are the party of the People? Ive just retired i want to live whats left. Well said you! 👍
@@robertwren8878 last thing I’d buy is an Ovia.
I dont understand your review was promising and sold it to me. Why do you say this as this is perfect for my age. 👍
@@robertwren8878 a lots gone wrong with the bike since then and Cyrusher don’t honour their warranties. I really should do an updated review.
Oh i see! I look forward to an update if you have time to do it before the likes of me make a big mistake with our pension money,so i welcome it. Thankyou for your replies. Grateful. Robert.
I just ghost pedal.
4 mph throttle is nuts.
So walking speed
@@JohnMckeeman-j1y basically. Most e-bikes have a “walk” button, it pretty torqueless so pretty pointless as a “go” accelerator on the bike.
I doubt we'll see any change to the ebike rules in this parliament. During the consultation, all the industry bodies were against changing the motor power/throtlle/speed limits. Even people in the last government don't really know how the consultation got started as they weren't particularly interested in changing the law. I think what is more likely is a crack down by the police on illegal ebikes, after there is an increase in the number of pedestrians being injured by idiots on high power bikes.
@@HoratioChinn I know. I’ve previously mentioned the feedback from the industry bodies such as the motorcycle association and Brompton Cycles (I mean, no vested interests by either of these parties, right?)
Like I said … the sensible pay for the actions of idiots and with even bigger idiots running the country it feels like we’re banging an empty drum. But I’ll keep going.
Well said m8 I am 56 and have anxiety and depression and thinking of getting a m1 pro to get me out and about .but I think it will make me scared to go out because if I am stop and thay take it off me I will be stuck because I don't like travelling in cars or buses . Hope things change soon
Just get what you want, I have a brain injury from years ago ( car crash), had to learn to walk and talk again. I'm on my 3rd ebike now, I use it all the time and it puts me in a better mood to be out, I've ridden in most weathers including snow 😂, mine is a Cannondale and my wife has an Engwe Ep2 pro. Remember, you don't have to de restrict your bike.... no problem then. I didn't go out for nearly 5 years after what happened to me, now I design cycling jerseys AND want to go out, plus there's plenty of people on here to chat to. Enjoy 👍
Keep it legal and you should have no problem. The motor's 250W, so just don't fit the throttle, and don't de-restrict it. A mate of mine has one and he's had no trouble from the Plod.
im a motor biker but i love my ebike im selling my motorbike so i can buy a better ebike you know more modern
Car 18 mpg???
@@limmoblack on a good day. 😂
@@ModProjects4306 I used to have an old Daimler that used to do those numbers...
@@limmoblack my dad used to do up old Daimler V8’s, Jags, Ensigns … my childhood was all V8’s and being dragged around scrap yards.
I don't think people have any concept of speed. 30 mph is easily achievable on an analogue bike, and those that live in the city, have a look at your cars average speed whilst out and about. I used to regularly struggle to average much more than 20mph. Getting hit at 20by a car vs a bike. No brainer. Bike doesn't require fossil fuels no brainer. How come you can buy a Porsche and do 150mph on a 70mph road but u get a bike that can do 27mph and everyone loses their shit. Backwards world where things only progress if some rich twat can make some money out of it zzzzzz
@@mikesmith1587 couldn’t agree more. I have a modified car that’s good for 180mph … I don’t drive everywhere at that speed. If you watch my video on the mental health benefits of e-bikes and see my average speed on that over a 58 mile ride it’s barely worth mentioning.
I go out on my ebike more than my car. I'm doing my bit for climate. I have a car for the long journeys. But for going to the shop, ect, i use the ebike. People in cars over take me at 15mph, 20mph not so much and 25-27mph never overtake me. My belief is on foot paths 15.5 mph is ok. I always slow down when passing people and have courtesy for other people. But, on the road when your with vehicles its safer to be going 25mph, i dont have people overtaking me, ( unless and idiot trying to get home in a hurry) throttle is way better in many situations, i use throttle when i need to. It has saved me a couple of times, from cars, not ebikes. They are the way forward, and when the government see that, the better. They go on about saving the planet. Here, have a cardbored straw. But, when it comes to the things that would make a massive impact, they are like no, you can't do this and that. 500w isn't enough for heavier people. 1000w - 1500w is ok for that. It's not the power. But the speed they should be focusing on. Bmw m3, etc. can do massive speed, and they are legal. But the speed limit on a motorway is 70. You tell me that they do that speed. Because they dont! 15mph on foot maths but 25mph on roads is safer. They need to look at this. Its the speed they should be governing, not the watts of a motor.
@@mattkinger4173 brilliant. What annoys me the most is the fact that hire scooters can have a 12.5mph working throttle … which begs the question why can’t we?
Its ludicrous. 🤷🏻♂️
@ModProjects4306 exactly, I've had a couple scooter that can do 20mph. They are great for commuting and don't take up much space. But, I feel safer on a bike. I've seen the scooters dumped wherever they take up space on city streets. Looks a mess. Why can't people use their own ones. That's right, as you said, they won't make as much money from it. They don't care about climate, etc. Just the lining in their pockets
Take away the winter payments from people who worked all their life. But keep on giving the bums who have kids £90 a week per child every Holiday. That they spend on lavish items.
Speed limit as it stands is fast enough for my requirements as I am not trying to keep up with other vehicles and not using over busy highways.
@@athollmcnicoll1028 the consultation isn’t about a speed increase, it’s about more powerful motors (more torque) and the legal use of a throttle up to 15.5mph.
You just cant win
you are right 11 billion would buy all us oap's and disabled who might want an E bike, we could even rent them on the cheap or buy them on the drip, But 15 miles an hour stupid rule hoofed out by morons 30 miles an hour far better for the road and 15 too fast for the pavement.
You wouldn't be doing 30 mph on a pedal bike, sounds like your looking for a moped. 15 mph for an OAP on a push bike is plenty.
Course you would what u talking about?
@@paulh1860 when was the last time you were out in traffic on a pushbike mate 15 mph is crap too dangerous.