i actually can see how the acting might have a psychological benefit, as long as they did it when they were sufficiently ready. Sometimes grappling a second time with the issues that had such a traumatic effect on the mind in the first place can help you to get beyond it.
My great uncle was there and was put in the hospital for rheumatic fever and fibromialga, got better in 1 month and sent to fight again. (nothing neuro/psychological happened. An artillery gunner. You can get other problems too - unrelated to bullets/shrapnel.) He came home, worked, married, had 2 kids and lived healthy into his 90's...a rare blessed outcome for WW1 Vets of Canada.
Watching these videos, I'm pretty happy to see all of them cured. I'm sure they suffered for the rest of their lives in some way or another, but it's good to see they got treatment.
I have PTSD there are still things i avoid.....and i didn't face the hell they did in WW1.....they knew so little about it back then. These men lived through..well words fail to describe it.....They are my heroes....
really sad this video. its incredible the way these men suffered for what today we know as "post traumatic stress disorder", and how the medics were developing the rehab techniques with these poor men completely devastated by war. In these images we only see the physical symptoms, I wonder what about the psychological suffering. Anyway, great rehab that they made them work with domestic animals in a farm, but that film they acted at the end, kinda cruel...
I'm curious about what kind of "treatment" was involved. I love the fact they they seemed to be better after a while but still...this "re-education" and "treatment" seems different.
2:55...The Tao Te Ching says that nature can cure any illness, be it physical or mental...War that is so extremely different than Lao Tzu's time, nearly 2,500 years later, the effects of war was treated in the same way
These conditions could have been mostly physical, not mental, because the body would be releasing an abnormal amount of stress hormones at once which would cause ticks, tremors, abnormal behaviour, etc. I can see why that would be because there have been times after I've had a panic attack that I shake uncontrollably and don't stop for a few mins. So I imagine that after they come out of combat, it's about a million times worse which causes these reactions. They could have been given meds too.
@C3P0meetsData Because the amount of artillery they faced,and the long time spent in the trenches.And the lenght of timr they were in the trench's gettingshelled all the time
Looks like they were in the fledgling stages of occupational and physical therapy treatments.. perhaps quite a few of these half day miracle cures were simply calming the man down and doing some repetitions to get him walking normal again. some of the long term treatments were probably curing brain injury from concussion. Im a stroke survivor and i see the same gait, balance and movement traits in stroke victims. There men must have suffered brain bleeds that interupted motor skills .
They didn't know in 1917 that the war was to end a year later; they wanted to cure the soldiers so they could be able to go back to the battlefield. That's certainly the purpose of making this film. History made those men stay at home, but if the war had laster several more years, they would have been sent back in the trenches.
@owl1970 Oh oh really you wanna talk about history then lets talk about it here i got one for you this one is about a war i might run out of comment characters so here we go this is george arm strong custer he was born December 5th 1839. He was a commander which was also known as the american civil war and the indian wars. In early 1876 thousands of native americans escaped from the reservations and military officials were ordered to push them back. On june 25 1876 custer and his troops engaged.
@ThatNeilDude For an ignorant person that may be true...and you can't eat straw and he lived in a normal style home, not a hut...he lived in 600 BC, not 10,000 BC
As soon as they were deemed fit they were sent back into the furnace of the trenches,presumably the war game clip was a slow reintroduction as to what there sheer existance was about,many thousands of men returned to the surreal hell after treatment,only to be massacred,wilfred owen being a notable statistic in this madness and futility.
@owl1970 continuing from the word (engaged) in battle with the Lakota and northern Cheyenne tribes near the big little horn river of Montanna. Custer's forces was defeated and custer was killed and til this day of history was known as Custer's last stand. So when you are on the internet becareful who you call people and i'm not uneducated. ; )
I've got to say that is an extremely high recovery rate..and all done in less than an hour? Could this be propaganda? There is this quick fix for PTSD in the 21 century...just saying
I'm pretty sure the PTSD is still there. I think that they just did physical therapy so that these guys can at least move around normally. I mean, the PTSD is definitely still there, but at least they can lead a mostly normal life.
Thank you so much for posting all of your old vintage vids..
i actually can see how the acting might have a psychological benefit, as long as they did it when they were sufficiently ready. Sometimes grappling a second time with the issues that had such a traumatic effect on the mind in the first place can help you to get beyond it.
The last part is rather amazing. I wonder if the medics thought that this kind of "re-enactment" had a psychological benefit?
My great uncle was there and was put in the hospital for rheumatic fever and fibromialga, got better in 1 month and sent to fight again. (nothing neuro/psychological happened. An artillery gunner. You can get other problems too - unrelated to bullets/shrapnel.) He came home, worked, married, had 2 kids and lived healthy into his 90's...a rare blessed outcome for WW1 Vets of Canada.
Watching these videos, I'm pretty happy to see all of them cured. I'm sure they suffered for the rest of their lives in some way or another, but it's good to see they got treatment.
Marten Hoyle Once they were deemed cured they were sent back to the front.
@@chrisswinford6762 true .
I have PTSD there are still things i avoid.....and i didn't face the hell they did in WW1.....they knew so little about it back then. These men lived through..well words fail to describe it.....They are my heroes....
really sad this video. its incredible the way these men suffered for what today we know as "post traumatic stress disorder", and how the medics were developing the rehab techniques with these poor men completely devastated by war. In these images we only see the physical symptoms, I wonder what about the psychological suffering. Anyway, great rehab that they made them work with domestic animals in a farm, but that film they acted at the end, kinda cruel...
The same as of today , nightmares, insomnia, depression, guilt, remorses , regrets , bitterness.
I'm curious about what kind of "treatment" was involved. I love the fact they they seemed to be better after a while but still...this "re-education" and "treatment" seems different.
Das Jennster they used ECT, insulin therapy, talk and hydro therapies as well.
2:55...The Tao Te Ching says that nature can cure any illness, be it physical or mental...War that is so extremely different than Lao Tzu's time, nearly 2,500 years later, the effects of war was treated in the same way
Were they made deaf too? (huge shells shatter ear drums too)
These conditions could have been mostly physical, not mental, because the body would be releasing an abnormal amount of stress hormones at once which would cause ticks, tremors, abnormal behaviour, etc. I can see why that would be because there have been times after I've had a panic attack that I shake uncontrollably and don't stop for a few mins. So I imagine that after they come out of combat, it's about a million times worse which causes these reactions. They could have been given meds too.
2:40 Let's do the Time Warp again.
How are you doing these days??
@C3P0meetsData Because the amount of artillery they faced,and the long time spent in the trenches.And the lenght of timr they were in the trench's gettingshelled all the time
what's happening at 3:31? is the pig dead or alive?
Looks like they were in the fledgling stages of occupational and physical therapy treatments.. perhaps quite a few of these half day miracle cures were simply calming the man down and doing some repetitions to get him walking normal again. some of the long term treatments were probably curing brain injury from concussion. Im a stroke survivor and i see the same gait, balance and movement traits in stroke victims. There men must have suffered brain bleeds that interupted motor skills .
@antibulletdodger101 the worst thing is that they fixed those men just to send them on the battlefield again
They didn't know in 1917 that the war was to end a year later; they wanted to cure the soldiers so they could be able to go back to the battlefield. That's certainly the purpose of making this film. History made those men stay at home, but if the war had laster several more years, they would have been sent back in the trenches.
The terrible results of the aftermath of war...will mankind learn...
Lol never
@owl1970 Oh oh really you wanna talk about history then lets talk about it here i got one for you this one is about a war i might run out of comment characters so here we go this is george arm strong custer he was born December 5th 1839. He was a commander which was also known as the american civil war and the indian wars. In early 1876 thousands of native americans escaped from the reservations and military officials were ordered to push them back. On june 25 1876 custer and his troops engaged.
@ThatNeilDude For an ignorant person that may be true...and you can't eat straw and he lived in a normal style home, not a hut...he lived in 600 BC, not 10,000 BC
@C3P0meetsData During WW1 thats when they first came out with tanks planes and gas also Artillery no one ever seen that kind of war before
I'm getting by....one day at a time....thanks for asking
So.. they gather mental patients suffering from war trauma to act in a war play. Now that´ll make them relive their worst fears.. stupid.
If the first guy steps in doodie, hes all set!
READY TO THE NEXT WAR
@HaldorMaximius LAO TZU LIVED IN A HUT AND ATE STRAW!!!!!
@owl1970 *you
As soon as they were deemed fit they were sent back into the furnace of the trenches,presumably the war game clip was a slow reintroduction as to what there sheer existance was about,many thousands of men returned to the surreal hell after treatment,only to be massacred,wilfred owen being a notable statistic in this madness and futility.
@owl1970 continuing from the word (engaged) in battle with the Lakota and northern Cheyenne tribes near the big little horn river of Montanna. Custer's forces was defeated and custer was killed and til this day of history was known as Custer's last stand. So when you are on the internet becareful who you call people and i'm not uneducated. ; )
I've got to say that is an extremely high recovery rate..and all done in less than an hour? Could this be propaganda? There is this quick fix for PTSD in the 21 century...just saying
I'm pretty sure the PTSD is still there. I think that they just did physical therapy so that these guys can at least move around normally. I mean, the PTSD is definitely still there, but at least they can lead a mostly normal life.
biedni ludzie
pure fantasy