I Tried PANKRATION (Ancient Greek MMA)

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  • @SenseiSeth
    @SenseiSeth  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

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    • @goofygrandlouis6296
      @goofygrandlouis6296 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait, why are you not naked ?
      I think the Greeks liked to oil themselves up, and had a pretty hands-on approach to things.

    • @dusandragovic09srb
      @dusandragovic09srb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ancient Greece = myth
      Ancient Rome = myth

    • @atmandofernandez9783
      @atmandofernandez9783 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just made a purchase , but the site said that they could not verify payment details even though my card was charged

    • @ΝίκοςΜόσαλος
      @ΝίκοςΜόσαλος 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      alsο Spartans were the only ones that didn't compete in PANKRATION for lots of reasons.
      not because they were weak or afraid...
      it was the only sport from pentathlon that they have never taken part in.

    • @informationjunkie
      @informationjunkie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hey Seth. You need to watch AMO Pankrations reaction to this video.
      The guy is a peer reviewed authority on the subject & makes very educational videos on Pankration

  • @notnotandrew
    @notnotandrew 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    Imagine going up against "The Finger Breaker" in a sport in which your only way to tap out was to raise a finger.

    • @mv293
      @mv293 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Underrated comment xD

    • @stonedape3285
      @stonedape3285 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You got 10 fingers

    • @X3._.n3
      @X3._.n3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oh no! This match is not going my way! At least I can raise my finger!
      The malicious finger breaker:

  • @GIBBEH
    @GIBBEH 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +378

    Loving how you've been showcasing these more obscure martial arts as of late. Kinda reminds me of the show Human Weapon if anyone remembers that lol

    • @subratadhar7698
      @subratadhar7698 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      that'exactly what I thought. Human weapon did an episode.

    • @General_Kenobi_212
      @General_Kenobi_212 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Human Weapon and Fight Quest were part of what got me into martial arts as a kid.

    • @andrewleiva2029
      @andrewleiva2029 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Killer bean!

    • @annoyed707
      @annoyed707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@andrewleiva2029 It's so far in the ancient past they are all has beans.

    • @ignaciovaldes2390
      @ignaciovaldes2390 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@General_Kenobi_212Yeah I don't remember in which one but I got in my mind this pankration guy breaking a shield with a stomp kick

  • @murilo9992
    @murilo9992 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +457

    So pankration is basically how siblings naturally fight each other.

    • @shhhh4637
      @shhhh4637 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      Except in siblings fight biting is also allowed lmao. The younger ones usually make use of that technique

    • @andresmartinezramos7513
      @andresmartinezramos7513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@shhhh4637Together with leg cycling they sre the equalizers of the fight

    • @zachwells5049
      @zachwells5049 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@andresmartinezramos7513or the cornering by the older sibling to the younger sibling when running around the kitchen table

    • @PlzTouchSomeGrass
      @PlzTouchSomeGrass 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Ah yes, because my siblings and I oil ourselves up naked before fighting

    • @murilo9992
      @murilo9992 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@PlzTouchSomeGrass aren't we so fortunate to have parents to buys us gallons upon gallons of oil.

  • @thamomentum
    @thamomentum 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +438

    Honestly Sensei Seth - You really are out here putting out some of the best/entertaining martial arts content. Keep this up and you're going to go way beyond just our community.

    • @johnreidy2804
      @johnreidy2804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Would you like to kiss him?

    • @tylerselinger7600
      @tylerselinger7600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Insane glazing

    • @richardsantosgarcia8972
      @richardsantosgarcia8972 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Jeez, can't be nice on the internet these days, lmao.

    • @amboredanditslatesoiinvade893
      @amboredanditslatesoiinvade893 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah am glazing too he better make more videos like this

    • @dusandragovic09srb
      @dusandragovic09srb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ancient Greece & Rome are myths, like Jesus, Mohammed, King Sol-Om-On☀ and Gravity.

  • @cyrusbjerke8693
    @cyrusbjerke8693 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +752

    Kratos's name meaning power/force and violence is perfect.

    • @narcodium
      @narcodium 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      You thought it was made up for a video game?

    • @cyrusbjerke8693
      @cyrusbjerke8693 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@narcodium What would make you believe that?

    • @papabear328
      @papabear328 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      It's also the word we use in Greek for "state", since the state is the power/authority over the land within its borders.

    • @myname-mz3lo
      @myname-mz3lo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      it means war too .

    • @harrywatson2694
      @harrywatson2694 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      yeah thats why they picked it

  • @Numero_E
    @Numero_E 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Great video! Huge respect Sensei!
    A quick note! Pankration was above everything else a battlefield discipline, used in war as the last "weapon" of the greek soldier. So the word sport is a little complicated in it's case because the fighters were literally people that probably survived battlefields and killed other people.
    Spartans were incredible fighters because of their spectacular use of Spartan Pankration which was brutal. Famous users of Pankration was also the Sacred Band of Thebes, an elite military force, that ended Spartans military superiority, and Alexander's Army that deastroyed Sacred Band and establised Alexander as the Leader of the PanHellene Alliance before he leaves for his conquest in the East.
    Also, dirty hits etc were allowed in the Olympics, but it wasnt exactly honorable to win matches this way, Olympics were the place for fighters to prove their impeccable technique therefore, the majority was trying to submit mostly and knockout opponents.
    Just a few words from a Greek historian and martial artist!
    Peace!

    • @angelotsi849
      @angelotsi849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      So true. It's very similar to the original Ju Jitsu from Japan that was practiced by Samurai as a last resort on the battlefield. It also included punching, kicking, wrestling, throws, locks and finger/wrist locks. The same need that warriors had to fight and defend themselves resulted in a very similar martial art. There are probably other martial arts around the world that are similar but lost in time. We are lucky that we have these descriptions and pictures on pottery and sculptures that give us an insight into the past.

  • @NomSauce
    @NomSauce 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    3:30 "Uh hello, I'm quitting ☝🧐" idk why this delivery made it so funny lmao

  • @toomanydogs1527
    @toomanydogs1527 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +241

    I cannot describe my disappointment in not ever being able to see one of those matches live. It must have been quite the experience.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Your modern experience could result in you finding such bouts revolting. A serious injury in that period could mean death.

    • @justinfung4351
      @justinfung4351 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@Art-is-craft What you did not take into account is that I am a psychopath.

    • @VultureLivesAgain
      @VultureLivesAgain 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      The original UFC tournaments from the early '90s were inspired by Pankration. Just like Pankration, the only rules were, "No biting, and no eye gouging." However, neither of those rules were actually enforced, so there pretty much weren't any rules. No weight classes or time limits either.

    • @MrAlepedroza
      @MrAlepedroza 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@Art-is-craftThat's arguably a myth though: th-cam.com/video/yQtTMwDPkqU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-JoZQ07kDUehfxfz
      Pankration was, at least in the Olympics, part of a festival of unity before the gods. People dying all the time would have defeated that purpose. It became different in the Roman period though, when it merely became a spectacle.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@MrAlepedroza
      I am not suggesting that they were fights to the death but they were most certainly more physical than what modern audiences are used to. Compound fractures today can be treated to the point that people are not considering them to be a big deal but in that era it could be death. Most families in that era faced death compared to today’s world. We are definitely more squeamish.

  • @MuskratPilgrim
    @MuskratPilgrim 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    What the hell, this was amazing! As someone into history and martial arts, this scratched so many itches. Thank you, Seth! I hope you enjoyed your honeymoon. You both look happy and great together!
    I don't know if you ever get ideas from the comment section, but Mongolian wrestling might be interesting to you. It's allegedly from Genghis Khan's time and they still practice it today. Check it out (in Jesse's voice)!

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Definitely interested in it

    • @mindfuldrone
      @mindfuldrone 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I had a go at Mongolian wrestling at the Mongolian fair which they used to hold in London every year. Has scoring a bit like sumo (lose if you touch the ground) and some clothing (,a bit like judo,)

    • @yvonnesanders4308
      @yvonnesanders4308 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He should check out Karl Pilkington having a go 😂

    • @shawnsmith2610
      @shawnsmith2610 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@SenseiSethYou were saying it right to begin with I have never herd it called the other way.

    • @zakgreen8436
      @zakgreen8436 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      L😮😮mwk😢

  • @JamesClark-uj1oh
    @JamesClark-uj1oh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +581

    Nah Seth not making it through this one 😂

    • @dusandragovic09srb
      @dusandragovic09srb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ancient Greece & Rome are myths, like Jesus, Mohammed, King Sol-Om-On☀ and Gravity.

    • @asharedo
      @asharedo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And water and dirt and ???

    • @dusandragovic09srb
      @dusandragovic09srb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@asharedo Yes.

    • @_AnimeMountain_
      @_AnimeMountain_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was 5 seconds into the video and saw your comment 😂😂😂😂.

  • @bchearne
    @bchearne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Seeing an ancient Greek Pankration match would’ve been wild. Someone needs to get on with it and invent a time machine. Interesting that they mention the extreme conditioning displayed by Pankration athletes, because the Greek hoplite infantry were also renowned for their endurance

    • @1bigmac469
      @1bigmac469 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They did it naked and oiled

  • @salvatoreplacidoplumari3840
    @salvatoreplacidoplumari3840 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Palaistra...now I know where the italian word "palestra" (italian for "sport hall", "gymnasium") comes from.

  • @goofygrandlouis6296
    @goofygrandlouis6296 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +213

    But why is Sensei Seth not naked ?
    I think the Greeks liked to oil themselves up, and had a pretty hands-on approach to things.

    • @adorp
      @adorp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "I likes to be oiled" - Testicles

    • @yvonnesanders4308
      @yvonnesanders4308 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Oil had different uses.
      It was used to cleanse. They would be oiled up then have it scraped off.
      It would be used to anoint for religions reasons.
      It would be protective from the sun.
      Why do you think olive oil is so valued still to this day in Greece

    • @goofygrandlouis6296
      @goofygrandlouis6296 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@yvonnesanders4308 Interesting. Thx for the extra info.

    • @BlackGamer42069
      @BlackGamer42069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They would oil up and then smear sand all over themselves to act as a form of sunscreen

    • @ΝίκοςΜόσαλος
      @ΝίκοςΜόσαλος 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      oil raises the effort one has to put to immobilize an opponent.

  • @griselbrand
    @griselbrand 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    Gotta say you're doing the equivalent of a ethnography for diferent martial arts and that's fucking amazing

    • @callmehavoc736
      @callmehavoc736 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Sensei Seth the martial anthropologist

  • @vanoscrap6296
    @vanoscrap6296 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    it is awesome how history has kept information for thousands of years about everything, including martial arts. I mean that description at the end might as well have been a radio program about ufc

  • @papabear328
    @papabear328 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    By the authority vested upon me by the random fact that I was born Greek, I hereby thank you for this video on behalf of the nation 😁🇬🇷

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ❤️

    • @JustAnotherNorthman
      @JustAnotherNorthman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice comment, except for the fact that nationality never is a random fact but instead is the direct result of the nationality of one's parents. Please, be proud to be Greek, and to be the child of Greek parents. Europe would be so much better if it became the norm again to celebrate one's ancestry and feel the indebtedness to it that comes with gratitude.

  • @KevinLeeVlog
    @KevinLeeVlog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is very cool!

  • @DopetheWind
    @DopetheWind 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +191

    When MMA/Pankration finally returns to the Olympics, I hope they try to replicate it, with the bean jar and all. No watered down BS rules.

    • @Crunchy166
      @Crunchy166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the penis holder too!

    • @Buphido
      @Buphido 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      As cool as that’d be, I highly doubt it. Uncensored pankration means blood and broken bones, which either has a small audience or cannot be broadcast at all, making it unprofitable. And it’s all about money.

    • @renato7184
      @renato7184 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Lol you kiddind, right? Look what they did to Taekwondo after a guy went 3 days in coma after the 96 games.

    • @mr.purple250
      @mr.purple250 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Look what they did to taekwondo and pankration. Modern day Olympics have no right to call themselves Olympics

    • @NomSauce
      @NomSauce 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Buphido Yeah no doubt there ended up with a lot of smashed in heads and what not since they were outside, people just grabbing hold of someone's ears and bashing their head towards the ground and so on. Lots of broken fingers I'd imagine.

  • @stevestrangelove4970
    @stevestrangelove4970 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    really love you guys recreating the moves as he was telling the story, helps a lot with visualization.

    • @gregortheoverlander4122
      @gregortheoverlander4122 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup. Super cool to see the description through the eyes of a high level wrestler and bjj guy.

    • @Meatlord69
      @Meatlord69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All just made up speculation with 0 historical backing or sources. Trully a great video to spread lies about ancient Greece.

    • @gregortheoverlander4122
      @gregortheoverlander4122 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Meatlord69 They literally cite the sources. But go on.

    • @Meatlord69
      @Meatlord69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Made up sources, yes. You go on please. Spread more dumb American lies.@@gregortheoverlander4122

  • @IamHattman
    @IamHattman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is basically the MMA version of what happened to rebuild sword fencing into modern HEMA. It's pretty cool to see.

  • @ryanleseberg9886
    @ryanleseberg9886 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    This is super cool man. The history in this video is insane

  • @metalface_villain
    @metalface_villain 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    seth i saw a video from a greek dude that studied pankration for a couple decades reacting to yours. the channel name was amo pankration. the dude was a little negative but he knew a lot about the topic and it appears that everything your instructors said were a bunch of bs. it seems those guys were a bunch of quacks. if you want check that out since it's in english and can help you learn a bit more about the martial art. i'd love a revisit on pankration since even i as a greek dude don't know much about it and since it's pretty fascinating to learn about one of the most ancient martial arts, especially if it's done in your humorous and fun style.

    • @JorgePentonSitumorang
      @JorgePentonSitumorang 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      aye, Seth should contact that guy and maybe he could interview him on the subject

    • @bene9644
      @bene9644 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JorgePentonSitumorangyea definitely

  • @BradYaeger
    @BradYaeger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Jim Arvanitis has been putting out Pankration content since the 80's , at the time nobody had anything close in mainstream productions . Great stuff and shows in the end there's nothing really new when it comes to fighting . It's all just physics and biology .

    • @jessiebedlam6094
      @jessiebedlam6094 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve got his literature. Since I don’t have any nearby Pankration instructors I’ve used that with my experience in boxing, wrestling and military combatives training with his information.

    • @m.b.593
      @m.b.593 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ya Jim is the man he was on the cover Black Belt magazine and I loved those articles with him.

  • @xmnia2726
    @xmnia2726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Hey Seth! Would love to see a discussion or collab with AMO Pankration, he is very knowledgeable about Pankration

  • @StrangerThing369
    @StrangerThing369 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sensei Seth thank you for all that you do. Watching your videos always brightens my day!

  • @levitonin7345
    @levitonin7345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    By a huge coincidence I was reading the Greek poet Pindar, and he covers some of the themes mentioned in this video. What a pleasant surprise to see your interpretation of what the fight would be like.

  • @chrispoggi1726
    @chrispoggi1726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Super well put together video, Seth!

  • @operaanimelover369
    @operaanimelover369 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Brother Seth, I cannot begin to declare how delighted I am to see you do a video on Pankration. There is so much beauty and legendary awesomeness in Pankration's bloody brutality. I just want to quickly clarify that biting and eye-gouging may be the only techniques forbidden in regular Ancient Greek Pankration. However, eye-gouging and biting were completely permitted in the Spartan version of Pankration. Therefore, if you were in Sparta, everything goes in Spartan Pankration from punching to kicking to grappling to biting to eye-gouging, thus leaving no room for figurative prisoners in the arena. If people thought Mixed Martial Arts was deadly, Pankration, especially done in Sparta, makes MMA look like playing patty-cake in the playground or a daycare center. At least Mixed Martial Arts is regulated for better or for worse. Pankration is regulated to a degree at least in Athens. But in Sparta? All bets are off for regulations so long as the fighters try to win by making their opponents submit. When all is said and done, Pankration does need a lot more rediscovery, appreciation, representation, and love because it is the predecessor to various hybrid martial arts from Luta Livre Esportiva to Vale Tudo to Combat Sambo to today's Mixed Martial Arts. Therefore, I want to thank you, Professor David Larmour, Coach Cory Johnson, and Livingston for this informative and entertaining video about Pankration. I have definitely continued to learn a lot more about Pankration with every upload on TH-cam, every encyclopedia I read, and every online article. Cheers, gentlemen.

    • @connor3284
      @connor3284 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If that is true about Spartan Pankration then it sounds a lot like gouging, which was an Appalachian and backwoods Southern colonial style of dueling for the lower classes. The planter class of course would duel with pistols or with swords, but the poor men dueled with knives or with their bare hands, and it was also no holds barred. The prized technique was to gouge out your opponent's eye and keep it for yourself, but you could also bite, attack the groin, and even use sharpened nails or teeth. Men who took part in multiple gouging duels were often horribly disfigured and had extremely long nails that they lacquer hardened and filed to points, and some even filed their teeth sharp.

    • @operaanimelover369
      @operaanimelover369 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@connor3284 According to my research on various sources, eye-gouging and biting were permitted in Spartan-style Pankration. I also believe you when you said that these particularly brutal combat techniques were also rooted in socioeconomic status and survival. Thanks so much for your response to my comment.

    • @williamOldpine
      @williamOldpine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you could, I'd be interested in your sources. None of the original writings Ive seen from that time period support this. What ya got?@@operaanimelover369

    • @curtisjackson5793
      @curtisjackson5793 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      could they grab or strike the balls?

    • @operaanimelover369
      @operaanimelover369 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@curtisjackson5793 Groin strikes are allowed in Spartan-style Pankration.

  • @azuromesser849
    @azuromesser849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Pankration is supposed to have been created by Herakles
    So not only he was strong as a god, he fought like a champ

    • @BullChapterBalintawak
      @BullChapterBalintawak 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Another theory is that Theseus developed Pankration due to his fight with the Minotaur.

  • @teteotolis
    @teteotolis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Hello , Greek person here !
    Pankration in English would be more like “absolute dominion” the winner is the one "holding dominant force"
    (Παγκράτιο, παν + κρατείν)

    • @OXSkuldream
      @OXSkuldream 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thx!

    • @dusandragovic09srb
      @dusandragovic09srb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ancient Greece & Rome are myths, like Jesus, Mohammed, King Sol-Om-On☀ and Gravity.

    • @Silirion
      @Silirion 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dusandragovic09srbthe earth is flat

    • @dusandragovic09srb
      @dusandragovic09srb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Silirion That's "CIA" term. Maybe: a flat*
      But it's not, it's the Infinite Machine.
      Church for Jesus, church for Gravity (another name for "God").
      Boundless World, boundless Mind, boundless Soul, boundless potential.
      🌠☀☯🌔🌠
      🏞🏞🏞🏞🏞
      Wherever you look,
      N🏞
      E🏞
      W🏞
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      it's Mother Earth.
      I think it's N🏞E🏞W🏞S🏞.
      Only Earth exists, everything else is Hollywood / TV education - programmed robot / slave.

    • @f1r3hunt3rz5
      @f1r3hunt3rz5 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dusandragovic09srbConsciousness is a myth

  • @acaristic93
    @acaristic93 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sensei Seth I regularly enjoy your videos, as I did this one.
    However later youtube recommended a video by 'AMO Pankration', a person doing really deep study on pankration, publishing studies in journals, making a lot of videos on historical details and the like.
    Said person made a video critical of this one, I think without fully understanding what it is that you do as a channel and as a martial artist, but made a lot of great clarifying points in regards to the history of the martial art of pankration that you may want to know about for future reference.

  • @playerunderground571
    @playerunderground571 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Seth I hope to see you make a video about Kudo the japanese MMA

    • @ArkhBaegor
      @ArkhBaegor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hell yeah, my art. Sadly it's barely developed in the US so he would need to travel quite far.

    • @mr_ozzio5095
      @mr_ozzio5095 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Fun fact... Sumo in its original form was also very similar to MMA, with punching/kicking/elbow strikes/leg sweeps/grappling🤯

  • @lastsamurai1089
    @lastsamurai1089 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A travel series with you and the karate nerd would be amazing!

  • @anderandersson5229
    @anderandersson5229 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What a great complimant: ”you are the modern day vase painter”. 😊

  • @informationjunkie
    @informationjunkie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hey Seth. You need to watch AMO Pankrations reaction to this video.
    The guy is a peer reviewed authority on the subject & makes very educational videos on Pankration

  • @thelastchimp
    @thelastchimp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    that depiction of arrichion doing a 4point to shake off his opponent and then do a leg turk/lock is so dope

  • @Gotchism4Life
    @Gotchism4Life 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    AMO Pankration did a great video debunking the bullshido in this video.

  • @Caromaros
    @Caromaros หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really liked what the instructor said at 10:01 and felt like that was a really good insight! “You’re the modern day vase painter bro, you’re just recreating a human experience through digital means”

  • @perrenchan6600
    @perrenchan6600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video. Would love to see you branch out into ancient/classical warfare too like Roman legionary training and stuff

  • @lilautistico1635
    @lilautistico1635 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Play Assassins Creed Odyssey if you wanna visualise it more. You can go to Olympia Greece and explore the whole thing. There’s also a mission in the campaign where you go back to Sparta to ask for your home back after you were banished as a child. The kings of Sparta go ask you to win a reef in the Olympics and you compete in the pankration fighting dudes. The bear arm combat is really fun I replayed this mission over and over so many times.

  • @davidschafer1356
    @davidschafer1356 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    One of your best vids m8!

  • @gw1357
    @gw1357 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    If you're ever in London, make sure you see the Elgin Marbles at the British Museum. They have these amazing action scenes that are so dynamic, they look like modern day comic books, but they're carved out of stone instead of draw in ink.

    • @2WheelTours
      @2WheelTours 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Parthenon marbles to be precise 😉

    • @BullChapterBalintawak
      @BullChapterBalintawak 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Parhtenon statues. They belong to Greece. Indeed the depictions are amazing. All the best to you.

    • @malamatinas1
      @malamatinas1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Are you trying to rub it in? Those marbles are a very sensitive matter to us Greeks. And yes they are amazing and they should be returned to Greece.

    • @gw1357
      @gw1357 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@malamatinas1 I'd be happy to see them go back to Greece...but consider it Greece's good luck that they weren't there to be destroyed by the Ottomans, Turks, the Nazis, or the Communists during the multiple opportunities over the last two hundred years.

    • @malamatinas1
      @malamatinas1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gw1357 aaa yes I should be thanking you instead… did the English save the rest of the Parthenon or did we just get lucky with that? I

  • @Matt_Alaric
    @Matt_Alaric 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's some interesting technical aspects of Pankration that hint it evolved as part of a coherent fighting system to be used with weapons as well. For example they way they kept the left arm extended to parry and keep distance, while striking mainly with the right arm, is theorised to be related to how they would fight holding a shield on the left arm and wielding a weapon in the right hand. Same with the heavy use of left foot teeps to keep distance for strikes with the right arm and leg.

  • @kodmish
    @kodmish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Next video: I Tried GLADIATOR GAMES (Ancient Rome Entertainment)

  • @berner
    @berner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey man, this was one of your best videos I think.
    If you're taking suggestions, I'd love to see you do a video on Mongolian Wrestling and a video on Vale Tudo (maybe even see if you could get Mario Sperry in on it).
    Either way, great vid, thanks for making it :)

  • @dimitrisdaskalakis3065
    @dimitrisdaskalakis3065 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i am a greek and a pankration practictioner and i suppoer this video.Thank you seth for covering the sport of pakration

  • @AC57001
    @AC57001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A channel by a scholar with published research called AMO Pankration did a pretty comprehensive critique on your instructors who unfortunately seem to be mostly incorrect. He was fairly negative but it might be interesting to reach out and attempt corrections as this is an interesting topic

  • @grantholmes5661
    @grantholmes5661 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see more of these. Diving into historical forms of martial arts, and not just the ones commonly practiced today. People have been fighting for both war and sport for thousands of years.

  • @aldavedesierdo42
    @aldavedesierdo42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    You gotta try Pencak Silat later man. It's a weird and beautiful art of southeast asia much like a hybrid of shaolin kungfu and sanda

  • @petercharalampopoulos7180
    @petercharalampopoulos7180 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Ever hear about the Pankration fighter that used to break his opponents fingers so they couldn't submit? Fun story

  • @amang1001
    @amang1001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent video...

  • @Bigfoot404
    @Bigfoot404 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never really appreciated history or seeing old buildings, but this video makes it so interesting! Great work, Seth!

  • @gingercore69
    @gingercore69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    U always try so many cool things 💜
    Wonder if you will ever try japanese kempo... Ive heard its related to sumo but looks similsr to karate so... Probably a cool style to try

  • @bloodwynn
    @bloodwynn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just viewed reaction on channel "AMO Pankration" and it seems that "experts" don't know much about pankration.

  • @zachall101
    @zachall101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is my first time even hearing of this combat form….learn something new everyday 😊

  • @krakulandia
    @krakulandia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Read about the most legendary pankration practitioner: Dioxippus. His story is pretty cool and tragic at the same time. We need a movie of him.

  • @sinfinite7516
    @sinfinite7516 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They gotta bring back some version of this!

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I do the roman version pancratium as part of my living history group (mix of gladiator hema and unarmed), its great fun.

  • @ryderrants7444
    @ryderrants7444 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "lets try this super dangerous and cool early greek mma called pankration!" *proceeds to do some light wrestling with people who probably couldnt point to greece on a map*

  • @Tuesoctloth
    @Tuesoctloth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You really should respond to AMO Pankration's video, I hate to see it but almost everything you were told about by these two individuals is categorically false and a malicious misrepresentation of what Pankration actually was.

  • @elliotspencer8129
    @elliotspencer8129 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video as always. Imagine if there was footage from those competitions from way back then...all the crazy KOs that have been lost to time. I'd love to see you enter a boxing tournament some day!

  • @Estus__Flask
    @Estus__Flask 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't wait to see the final episode on rough-and-tumble/gouging!

  • @pickm
    @pickm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    (GR) Ώραιο vid αδερφέ ! Δεν συμπαθούσα ποτέ την Ιστορία σαν μάθημα και μ' αρέσει να μαθαίνω μέσα από εκπέδευτικά video σαν αύτα. Nice video man !
    (EN) Never really liked history as a study and I really enjoy learning about cultures through educational videos like this one. Gotta love the fitness and martial art content too though !
    (Ναι είμαι Έλληνας και δεν ξέρω Ρώμαική ιστορία...)

  • @taintwasher3703
    @taintwasher3703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    We've seen how mma has evolved in just a few decades. No doubt pankration, with centuries of evolving as a sport, had the best MMA fighters of all time.

    • @Saint_Dacier
      @Saint_Dacier 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      100%

    • @waliddrissi8370
      @waliddrissi8370 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I doubt the reason sports develop so fast new days is because of the technology capable of recording analyzing and coming up with counter tactics, like boxing for example, modern boxing that started in the 19th century stayed the same without being developed until the camera was invented and boxers started analyzing each others which meant they had to develop new techniques and tactics, so I don't think ancient sports would've been able to develop the same way current sports

    • @doubleb222able
      @doubleb222able 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except they didn't have video recording and the internet. Modern martial arts evolved more in 20 years then the last 500 before because of technology.
      I'm not saying there wouldn't be anything to learn, I'm saying the ancients would learn as much from the Modern era.

  • @detoxicinspection
    @detoxicinspection 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Pankration, the powerful GREEK martial art!!

  • @OverproofMMA
    @OverproofMMA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow really enjoyed watching this one. Loved the history and very well put together video

  • @piotrr3819
    @piotrr3819 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Plato was also a wrestler, that might be why he always won the discussions :D

  • @RealVergilSparda
    @RealVergilSparda 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    yeah my mma teacher is always saying how we were the first country to create mma and stuff but pankration now is a modified version of karate, named pankration because somebody wanted to make more money by being different

    • @Fubazim
      @Fubazim 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A luta agarrada faz parte da história humana, em todos os povos da terra se encontra uma maneira, um modo...tribais africanos, índios sul americanos, em todo canto do mundo existem ou existiram.
      A luta agarrada não é de um país ou povo, é humana.

    • @connor3284
      @connor3284 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      True. There is a channel on TH-cam called AMO Pankration that is trying to revive the ancient art in a HEMA sort of fashion.

    • @Saint_Dacier
      @Saint_Dacier 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao nahh

    • @LeyvatenLoop
      @LeyvatenLoop 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Fubazim Pankration (παγκράτιον) não é a "luta agarrada", a "luta agarrada" seria o que hoje chamamos de "wrestling", ou em grego antigo, *pále* (πάλη)
      Pankration não permite apenas técnicas de agarramento, mas sim todo e qualquer tipo de técnica exceto mordidas e perfuração dos olhos.

    • @MrCBTman
      @MrCBTman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Japan and Brazil both had mma before the US.

  • @Tomatrix
    @Tomatrix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    About martial art suggestions: what about Portuguese martial arts, like Jogo do Pau (Portuguese stick fighting/fencing) and Galhofa (some sort of portuguese wrestling)?

  • @FitmartFitness
    @FitmartFitness วันที่ผ่านมา

    We have watched how far UFC to MMA has evolved in 30 years. Imagine a martial art that is practiced around the empire continually modifying and improving for 1000 years.

  • @wizz7622
    @wizz7622 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    liking ancient greek and mma this is a sublime video

  • @fighttalkdaily
    @fighttalkdaily 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great storytelling Seth, thank you for the video

  • @Vololoooo
    @Vololoooo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey seth, i hope you will continue your wrestling series videos. They are really awesome. And the sumo videos too!

  • @user-kiriakos
    @user-kiriakos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful brilliant.you making a video for Greek history.with out the Greek subtitles. Bravo👏🏻👏🏻👏🏼👏🏽👏🏾

  • @gwarkx
    @gwarkx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    th-cam.com/video/aDo-OCAIo9w/w-d-xo.html : No guys he is actually wrong regarding the etymology of the word pankration. It is indeed composed of two parts: the first indeed is "pan" (παν) which literally means "everything". But the second is not "kratos" (κράτος) which means power, but the verb "krato" (κρατώ) which means to hold or grab something. So pankration (πανκράτιον) literally means a sport where grabbing the opponent in every possible way is allowed. Free style fighting (by today's standards)...

  • @BaNJaX91
    @BaNJaX91 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video, as usual! These exploration of different styles of martial arts are so fun, and such a great way for others to learn a little bit of what they do and where they come from!
    Question though. Is David Larmour originally from Northern Ireland? Sounds like he grew up there, moved to England where the accent/pronunciation changed, then spent time in the states for even more of a blend of accents.

  • @richguy32
    @richguy32 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:52 ahhh the true art of sportsmanship

  • @fifthlevelbard9541
    @fifthlevelbard9541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this amazing history lesson, sensei.

  • @joco762
    @joco762 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Congratulations!

  • @paokpantou6021
    @paokpantou6021 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I will buy this book. Greetings from Greece. Παγκράτιο

  • @jeppebayagerholm8564
    @jeppebayagerholm8564 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Seth. Very cool.

  • @ethanyoung5200
    @ethanyoung5200 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great history, Seth!

  • @EzaJAndara
    @EzaJAndara 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    aahhb i always refreshened everytime sensei dude drop something :3

  • @TDMA-XSD
    @TDMA-XSD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kratos as well means 'the hold over something'.
    Btw, research Theagenes of Thassos.

  • @jedibjj5488
    @jedibjj5488 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favourite vid yet

  • @alexanderkesterson6338
    @alexanderkesterson6338 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Depending on the time period they may have had Posca or something similar which is classical period Gatorade made from water, wine, vinegar, herbs and sometimes honey

  • @napalminthemorning8309
    @napalminthemorning8309 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My mans I reeeeeeaaaally wanna see you train with a D1/D2/D3 college wrestling team or even Olympic wrestlers for a day or a week, and show us just how far you can go.

  • @CrazyTom34
    @CrazyTom34 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fun cross over, in Olympic fencing the method to acknowledge a touch against you you extend the index finger on your off hand in the same manor as the Pakration submission motion

  • @supxrkicks560
    @supxrkicks560 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    this is probably where "pancrase", one of the first modern MMA promotions got its name

    • @CyberneticArgumentCreator
      @CyberneticArgumentCreator 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      someone call 911 this man had a heart attack mid sentence

    • @yourworstnightmare1488
      @yourworstnightmare1488 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CyberneticArgumentCreator blud had a stroke before finishing his sentence

    • @BWater-yq3jx
      @BWater-yq3jx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably??

    • @himmyturner101
      @himmyturner101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lmao IT IS where they got their name not PROBABLY 😂

  • @TheGreatKingChiba
    @TheGreatKingChiba 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how much of this matches up to our understanding of advancement historically. There are definitely far too many arguments to be made that our modern understanding of hand to hand combat is still struggling to catch up to things we had deep intimate knowledge of in our past as a species. There was a necessity in violence that naturally led innovation.
    You didn't learn "kool moves" to win fights.... you learned whatever you HAD to for survival.

  • @TheLochs
    @TheLochs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a long time practitioner of martial arts I always loved the history of different styles and what the ancient world did with hand to hand combat. If anyone is interested in learning more about it there is a great book called "Combat Sports In The Ancient World" by Michael Poliakoff. Its well researched and dives deep into the Greeks, Egpytians, Rome and other cultures of that era. Its really cool to see depictions in ancient art of moves we still use 5000 years later. Chokes, double leg/single leg takedowns, etc. And There are hieroglyphs of combatants talking trash, lol.

  • @jntechreview
    @jntechreview 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fight with all your heart!

  • @ShinMegamiTensei1
    @ShinMegamiTensei1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Gladiator combat should be next. There’s a group that legit actually fight real gladiator combat which is far before this. Basically it’s the ancient pro wrestling for its time.

  • @patchbeard
    @patchbeard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Seth great video. Also I'm 85% sure I spotted you on Bachata Knight's stream the other day so I'm looking forward to the buhurt video whenever you upload that haha

  • @memr5690
    @memr5690 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a student of Ancient History and a Martial Artist, this video is amazing

    • @mr_ozzio5095
      @mr_ozzio5095 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sumo is another interesting one, original sumo was basically MMA. Not the modern version everybody would recognise today!

  • @TheRealRomansThirteen
    @TheRealRomansThirteen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool that you got to check it out and visit Greece the Olympic sport is different than the combat version. Man I'm Jonesing to see more of the combat version.

  • @trueentor
    @trueentor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn son this some high-quality content

  • @mindfulmusic1029
    @mindfulmusic1029 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    it feels weird being this early

  • @frankiecal3186
    @frankiecal3186 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:52 is a bad ass version of the crucifix position.