Moog Sub 37 Synthesizer Tweaking - Daniel Fisher
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
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Daniel Fisher, Sweetwater's synth guru, explores the vast sonic landscape of the Moog Sub 37 analog synthesizer. We focus on sound examples in this video, with almost 40 minutes of sound design by a master synthesist.
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0:00 - Intro
0:09 - Goals of this Video
0:35 - 38 Minutes of Sub 37 Tweaking
39:02 - Thanks for Watching!
Sections of the video use a TC Electronic Flashback Delay: www.sweetwater.com/store/deta... - เพลง
This is by far the best demonstration of capabilities I have seen for any synth on TH-cam. Less talking, more showing and playing, just as it should be to run through at least a tiny fraction of the possible sounds of this amazing machine.
I used to think I could be very happy using soft synths and analogue emulations, and for many years I've actually not seen a real synth I could really like that would change my mind, despite having looked for one every now and again.
When I started looking again a few weeks ago, I suddenly found the Moog Sub 37, and it looks like exactly the kind of synth I have been wanting all my life without really knowing about it. The sound quality, the versatility as well as ease of use with its mostly one knob per function user interface, simply makes it by far the best synthesizer I have ever seen or heard of.
I honestly think that the sonic possibilities are so limitless someone could make an entire musical career out of creating album after album using nothing else but the Moog 37 while still making every single track sound fresh and original and timeless.
I think years from now, this machine will still be considered a groundbreaking classic that finally brings the exquisite lushness of analogue sound into the ultimate user-friendliness of the digital age. If ever a synth could be said to be retro and futuristic at the same time, it must be this.
Indeed, it is really hard to conceive of ways on which this can be improved upon, short of adding onboard delay and reverb followed by stereo output. Since internal delay and reverb could be controlled in all the same varied ways as the rest of the synth's features, that could make for really interesting possibilites.
Still, the more I listen to it, the more I know I will get one, and a good delay pedal to go with it, despite not really being able to afford it. For some reason, I feel I can't afford not to. I'm sure anyone else lusting after this epic piece of kit can understand the sentiment.
Anyway, thanks again for posting this video. I think it's the ultimate video about the ultimate synth. I am sure many others will have been in two minds about getting one, but then becoming certain after watching this. It's exactly this kind of video musicians and hobbyists alike need to make decisions about any kind of musical gear.
+Hakon Soreide Totally agree with you .............. I have a Little Phatty Stage 2, not as many features as this, but still amazing................. look on ebay :) !
+Dub Siren After knowing that the Sub 37 exists, I don't think I could be happy with a Sub Phatty. Good luck with your sale, though.
Hakon Soreide Did you get one??
What's great about the SUB-37 is that it contains in it pretty much everything you cannot do in software well - the authentic nonlinearities of analog, the overloading of an amplifier (in 3 different ways - overdriving the voice, feedback distortion, and multidrive), and the way the envelope is set up is just lovely. Even the oscillators sound really fat and warm by default.
If someone used 99% software but wanted that 1 synth that will fill the gap of analog, it's this one.
Ultimate mono? Maybe... But now that the Moog One is just about here, I think they've outdone themselves again. This and a Moog One for poly would be all I ever need.
Likely one of the best analog synths that's come along in the last 15 years.
you demonstrate a synth in a super helpful way. all your demos help me make my decision. thank you.
Arno Lowi Glad to hear that! Thanks for watching!
+SweetwaterSound Amazing!!!!!!!
You can connect to a software???
Fl, Ableton, Cubase???
Yes, No, Why??
It is convenient to connect to a software?
I believe this should be easily sequenced over MIDI with any DAW, in addition to being able to be sequenced over USB MIDI. You shouldn't have any problems!
This guy seems right in his element with this one.
I was just thinking, "I could listen to an LP of this." Then I realized the video is ~40 minutes long. Feels good :)
Robert Syrett If I could make a suggestion, “45:33” by LCD Soundsystem is essentially just great synth beats in an LP :)
Excellent Demo, Daniel. You really dug deep into the capabilities of this powerful instrument. I was impressed. I just bought my Sub 37 today. Thanks!
This synth is a modern masterpiece!!
Agreed! -_Daniel_
Really happy to see that Daniel is doing a demo of this one...I got really excited when I saw the link as I've been waiting for him to demo the Sub37. Thought he had disappeared too and I'm happy I was wrong! Keep up the great work Daniel!
22:27 Ahhh, the crispness of those high frequencies in my Genelec 8040B monitors is amazing.....
32:34 ...and the transients in some sounds, like this one. So lovely to listen to.
Love these Sweetwater demos. Thanks so much.
Thank you Daniel. I've just bought one to replace my old Voyager. Sweet Jesus - what a synth.
Thanks, that was worth listening through every minute.
This has to be Moogs masterpiece
Im in my first week with one of these, and this is exactly what I was looking for, thanks so much.
When it's Daniel Fisher I can like the video before watching. And after watching it I would add a like again!! Great demonstration!!
From the minute 24.20 I was left speechless ... Moog is really a king.
Just the most amazing synth demo ever, well done Sir !! I have a Little Phatty stage 2, and love it......... but this .......... WOW !
Now we all know what it would sound like if a Jedi played a synth. You are a Maestro Daniel.
Wow, that's crazy as hell. Great job demoing this product. You just won the internet for doing what needs to be done instead of trying to be a talking head. You're the man. I just looked at the price on this and I'm blown away at how inexpensive a real Moog with many of the sought after features is. I wish I was gigging more, I'd find a way to need one as a drummer. I might have to get one anyways because of stray cats. Fantastic piece.
Most comprehensive demo ever!!!
Love the sound at 11 minutes ...... love all the sounds. Some very interesting sounds in this demo. I want one!! :D
Great demo - less words, more actual hands-on.
Best Demo ever! Mr. Fisher is the master of synths
That’s a mighty fine synth workout ! Awesome synth and superb player on the controls !
Thanks, Craig! And thanks for watching!
Glad to see you back, thought you had disappeared
- brilliant demo
this is a must have for psych rock, in my opinion
Love it! Just bought one. Moog for the win
fantastic sounds from dan fisher. nice synth.
No talking, just playing and tweaking. Wonderful demo video. I am now very seriously thinking about buying this Moog Sub 37 Tribute Edition analog synthesizer. I don't see anything close to it at that price. THANKS.
Great demo Mr. Fisher.
This is an excellent demo.
I need to get one of these. Moog is the sound I need.
Thanks Daniel!! the sub 37 its very psychedelic :)
14:35 derpiest synth sound
lol yes you are right...
Straight out of A Clockwork Orange. Wendy would be proud.
This is perfect for my brand of Acid Rave industrial Technopop
MARK CHRISTOPHER LMAO good one.
I love the perfect Tangerine Dream outro!
Much more than a demo this is art.
I came back to this video just to listen to the sounds while I'm working my engineering desk job. Excellent sound quality, both from the synth and in recording. Maybe make a record of this stuff?
17:04 - Nice bit of Pink Floyd
I love the splashy sound from 11:29 onwards
This synth is awesome!
I liked how you started playing Pink Floyd Stuff (Have a Cigar, Welcome to the Machine).
thats a nice piece of kit
this synth looks very very good...
This thing sounds great! ^^
Can you explain the settings and how exactly you are getting that awesome Baba O Riley sound Please ! I have been trying and have got some interesting melodies in my attempt . Thank You
17:05 Welcome to the Machine :O
I need to get this, it has everything I want!!!
YES!
22:26 magic
Hi Vassili. Ya' gotta' love a Moog Ladder Filter with Resonance. Thanks for watching! -_Daniel_
Yeah for sure daniel. Thank you for this incredible demo.
great demo. i tried one out at guitar center and i absolutely fell in love! need two of these....
Ive been trying for 3 hours to re-create min 14:58 sound, how did you do it?? =(
Love at first sight
I never liked the sterile squeaky sounds of the Little Phatty, and the although the Voyager is nice its a bit harsh at times. The Sub 37 has that fat warmth I've been looking for, and I've yet to find a video that has not impressed me sound wise. I'm getting it!
Wish I had one!
What's he playing at 24:35? It sounds like space Bach or something.
Ok.
This is going to be my first synth
good demo ;)
Which patches are used? That info would have been useful. Interesting video otherwise.
OK, managed to see Baba Moog about 18' and Init Preset shortly after that.
Some really nice tweaks!
Hi Liam Donaldson! Much of the time Daniel is starting from the INITIALIZED PRESET. Other times they are presets that he personally made. At one point in the video though, he randomly hit a couple of factory presets without looking (to add some Zen) and just started tweaking. But, aside from those 2 or 3 three factory presets, everything was original or created on the spot. Let us know if you have any other questions or if we can help you with anything. Thanks for commenting!
Duo mode gets me every time.
Cool!
i need this for hyperspace voyaging...
17:05 un peu du Pink Floyd. Formidable!
Vincent Lussier Oui!
Vincent Lussier fuck that sounds so familiar. What song is it?
:)
@@rumshutt3r darude sandstorm
@@rumshutt3r The sunniest, cheeriest floyd song ever lol Just a showcase of the crazy VCS3, when it wasn't busy making sound FX for sci-fi movies or breaking down: th-cam.com/video/lt-udg9zQSE/w-d-xo.html
I have never been so newly invigorated creatively, than last July when I added my Sub 37, and first Moog. NICE DEMO! At the 15:00+ mark, it shows that the Sub 37 is more than capable in rich 'vintage creamy' Moog sounds but also goes *everywhere* in-between! Absolutely best gear purchase in while. Mr. Fisher is absolutely correct where he stated on SW website that he new the Sub 37 would be regarded as one of the best performance analogs of this 'analog renaissance', and I am paraphrasing, of course but entirely agree! Moog hit this out of the park and parking lot...It goes REALLY well with my Poly Evolver Rack and Mono Evolver Keys...and Eventide Space and some Lexicon magic...the Sub 37 just may have to have a second one or two if and when a rack unit of it may be released...or just get another Tribute...love it to pieces and...Sweetwater Rules!
Also, at 24:36 you did a great demo of the duophonic capabilities. I do Ambient/Experimental and THIS has been the Moog I have been waiting for. NAMM may well hold a few more surprises from Moog, and keeping my fingers crossed!
Robert Idigging the harmony at 22:16-22:24 !
Oh my, the "Moog Phatness" at 15:05 is all you need to hear.
Yeah, sold.
heck yeah!
$$$$$$$$$$$$OOOOOLLLLLLDDDDDD!!!! Gonna be the best Thanksgiving week ever :D
I've put in like 100 hrs into my Sub 37 and I'm still struggling to find a unique sound but that ending gave me some hope, I didn't realize how amazing delays sound on arps, what delay was that?
+azfiu The filter has an excellent tone to it and tweaking it with the different distortion stages Mixer (past 12:00), Multidrive, and Feedback can give you lots of tone variation.
You should post patch settings for this.
Can you set the split to only have one side use the sequencer or arpeggiation while the other side remains non sequenced and separate?
No split keyboard here, tho you can do what you said using duo mode
Yeah, I ended up ordering a Subsequent 37 CV. Good to be able to intergrate it with modular synths, too.
I was so close to buying a Matriarch, but I've released the Sub37 is exactly what I'm looking for. I want quick access to presets and a sequencer. 4 voices was my ideal, but I'm moving away from that style and making use of my digital piano for chords.....
How did you get the baba o riley sound please explain the settings for that
Hi ron, the sound is pretty simple, just a pair of slightly thin pulse waves (gently detuned) with a pluck-shaped Amp Envelope. The real trick is in the sequencing. Search TH-cam; there are lots of folks happy to show you how to play it. Thanks for watching!
that lil ditty at 16:30 is dope
Incredible sound
When I am far away from the sub 37, I come here for a fix.
Hi guys . Can some of this sounds damage my speakers .
Could someone tell me, is there any difference between the sub 37 and the sub 37 tribute edition or is it the same?
Hi Julian. They are one and the same. The different ones are the Subsequent 37 CV (no longer in production) and the Subsequent 37:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Sub37--moog-subsequent-37-analog-synthesizer
Can anyone tell me how to get the setting at the beginning of the video where all the lights on the sub 37 are flashing?
Hi Cooper, in the GLOBAL Menu, on page 2, you'll see a parameter called LIGHTSHOW. Just set it to ON. Thanks for watching!
+SweetwaterSound thanks so much for your speedy response! I don't have a sub 37 yet, but I'm looking into buying one so I wanted to learn all the functionalities. What an awesome synth!
Quick question, should I get 1 of these or 3 MS-20 Minis?
This
help me!! Sub 37 or Little Phatty Stage II ?? What are the major differences and why would I choose one over the other?
David Bennett the Little Phatty has a more classic Moog sound. So if you’re playing more vintage inspired tunes, get it. This one is darker and more modern sounding.
Starting at 5:37 during the reso sweep, is it just me or is there actually a slight "step" to the filter?
Hi Toasted Toast, Once the Resonance is up high enough to sing at each of the individual harmonics, it will seem that the Filter is jumping from harmonic to harmonic, but it's still sweeping smoothly. (It's one of the things I really like about Moog Filters. Try running those harmonic arpeggiations though a clean ping-pong delay - like at 10:56.) You can tell that the Filter sweep is smooth when I'm using less Resonance, starting at 4:50. Thanks for watching!
Would it be worth selling a Sub Phatty to get this? I love my Phatty, and it sounds a bit grittier than this, but the modulation options here are hard to pass up.
Hi Haut Strange. Any sound you can make on a Sub Phatty can also be made on a Sub 37. Having already learned on a Sub Phatty, you would very much enjoy easy access to all of the Sub Phatty parameters that required you to open the manual each time. And the sequencer is initially easy, but can be tweaked into doing extraordinary things. Thanks for watching!
Sweetwater thanks for the reply! I’m heavily considering it. My bank account it scared 😅
Might be a dumb question... but What does it plug into? a computer? external speakers like rockets or something.. or a 4x12 cab? This was an awesome demo.
Hi x7stringinJSCx, The Moog Sub 37 has a 1/4", line level, Audio Out jack, as well as a 1/4" TRS Headphone jack. The Audio Out can go to any mixer, amp input, or powered speakers. Thanks for watching!
18:05 baba o'riley! ace
nice.
I'd really like to know what delay he's using in this demo.
I used the TC Electronic Flashback on the Ping Pong setting. I chose it because you can get a very un-colored repeats that are basically identical to the original source. That way, you're just hearing more iterations of the Moog instead of outside sound shaping. Pretty much any un-colored delay that has Pink Pong will give the same results.
It shows that you don't need drugs to take an artistic trip... Or does it ? Anyway this video is a full live concert ! Bravo !
10:54 that's a good start Forbidden Planet ! and it gets better .. ... .... ..... ...... . . . .
I cry. I already got the Voyager XL, and now I am trying to justify getting this beast without selling the XL! Can you think what could be done by hooking up my Beatsep Pro to the XL, the Sub 37 and my 104m delay? Might throw the Virus in there as well. Pandemonium!!!!
sold.
so, you are daniel fischer, having been using your k2000 keymaps for years and years and finally i see you face.
HiAndre. Was it anything like you imagined;-) Thanks for watching!
what is causing the background sound every 2 beats?
Hi Andrew. The video is almost 40 minutes long. Can you narrow it down a bit?
so sub 37 or little phatty..which one, for house music production?? and why??
this one cos it is MUCH better....specifically it is better cos: 1. it has more knobs and 2. has wayyyy more modulation options - not that you will need them doing house BUT this one is still better.
It also looks better...the other one is a bit plastic....BUT the other one is half the cost of this....little phatty is v v good - deadmau5 uses one so...sure its good enough for you but if you are one of those rare music people who has lots of money get this...
Bought one
damn even sounds amazing on a laptop
What does he switch on at 24:38 that makes the synth wider?
Sorry I mean 34:28
Hi Morgan, It's actually the TC Electronic Flashback Delay set to an uncolored Ping Pong delay. Thanks for watching!
SweetwaterSound You have Morgan's blessings.
hi, which type of TC delay was used?
mmm....I'll take 2 of em!
Can you use a vocoder on this?
Why not -:)
There are literally an infinite combination of possible sounds on the Sub 37
Hi Paul, Agreed! Until the heat death of the Universe. Thanks for watching!
Cease all discourse and acquire my currency!
18:00 little bit of baba o'riley
You don't do a demo of Subsequent 37?
It's basically the same synth.
OMG, I'm going to have such a good time with mine once I've received it from you al