Great dive into this cool sounding synth. Totally agree its strength is dialing it in like a mono synth. The filter really growls and shines with each note.Just a ton of harmonics. The reverb works really well with the harmonics. I think this will become a classic, if not already one.
Any synths on this planet are worth beeing bought! Just buy, experiment and see if it fits to your music taste and style ❤ if not, sell it. Another one will then have the opportunity to do the same thing 👍
The "KB Reset" feature is actually really useful for single oscillator bass patches (which, as you know, are a must have in most genres of electronica). You get a lot more punch. I learned that from reading the user manual of all places if you can believe that.
Some synths come and go … but the sub 37 is keeper since years in my studio! I really like the super intuitive layout of the synth - always an inspiring instrument for me.
I have had a sub37 for a couple of years, and have been a synthesist for 35 years. I really enjoyed the video and learned a couple of things. Thank you & cheers.
My first ever synth. Can’t describe how much of a joy it is to use in so many kinds of music. Always finds a way to enhance the track. Still unlocking new possibilities on this guy years into owning one. Honestly view it as a MUST buy, its that good!
Its absolutely still worth getting, nothing has happened since it came out to make it obsolete. I personally think the PRO3 is the smarter buy for most people, and there is other competition, but its very much worth considering. Moog sound, with great interface, and lots of modulation, patch storage, stable tuning, duophonic, 4 filter slopes, the multidrive....its truly great
Thanks for watching Christine! I'm in the exact same boat as you. I've got a Pro 2 and while it can do way more, I just gravitate to the sub 37 every single time! Do you prefer the Pro 3? i'd like to get my hands on one to review.
@@MilesAwayOfficial I prefer the PRO3 to the sub37 overall, but prefer the PRO2 overall to either. But its just a complicated enough situation to require some explanation. The 37 and the PRO3 are better stand alone monos, and theres ways to enhance them through connectivity to other gear, but not to the degree that the PRO2 can. That filter section is just too great, plus the two pressure and position sensitive touch strips. Send something with a VCO or two into the PRO2, or send just anything at all into it, and you can do way more overall, then with the other two synths mentioned. PRO2 gives you so much flexibility, and the sound overall is great too, Lush or lovely feedback drive boost distortion. The 37 and pro3 have great filters, but its one filter at a time, no where near as cool as the flex filter section
@@marvinkmooneyoz late reply but I love the praise on the Pro 2. I’ve honestly not gelled with mine that well, but I don’t have modular to connect it with so perhaps that’s the issue. I appreciate the high praise though, I will make sure to try to give the pro 2 more love!
@@marvinkmooneyozthe pro 3 offers a lot more but doesn’t compare sonically to the sub 37’s texture and depth. I literally can make the room rumble with the sub 37
@@teflondaprince I haven’t spent time with the 37 directly, but have heard plenty, I do like the tone, and it has multiple drive options. But the pro3 has drive options, plus a really nice tuned feedback, it has plenty of depth.
@@MilesAwayOfficial The sequencer in the sub37 is advanced, it can record every setting (velocity, mod-wheel position etc) so I use it as a sound design tool while creating patches.
This synth sounds so overdriven and full of harmonics that it's like it's on fire. Gotta love that! The sound of electricity, brought to you by Moog, the analog legends................................. of high prices.
Great video. I’ve had my Subsequent 37 for a couple of years now and it’s hands down the most inspiring and tweakable synth I have, and I have a few. The comment on gain staging is spot on. It took me a while to figure out why I could easily get mean, fat sounds but not delicate fluffy ones… it was that gain knob. In most synths you’d think 80% or even 100% is fine. Not here unless you want that monstrous sound. The other thing is the envelopes. They have so many features controlling how they’re triggered which, together with the glide controls make this a superbly musical synth, since you control phrasing of solos, bass and sequenced sounds so well - much like you would with a physical instrument. I can’t imagine ever selling my sub37.
Great comment and thanks for watching! Loads more synth videos here so stick around :) but yea the envelopes are incredible on this, I love the looping and synch features. Amazing synth
Wish they did a desktop version. ... and it is a pretty synth. Sold mine to buy a UDO Super6 poly, which sounds really, really magical, but would certainly get another 37 when funds allow.
@@MilesAwayOfficial Hi Miles. It isn't an aggressive synth (at least it wasn't until they released the new wave pack), has a beautiful organic timbre, more like a Dave Smith, but with a wider variety of sounds. Great for DnB, IDM and a good contrast for the Summit I picked up after watching your review :) Really tempted by a Sub 37 again, though was considering a Matriarch....?
thanks for such a good review mate, ive been thinking of selling my voyager for a sub37 and this review has finally tipped the scales for me. one q, would you. recommend a subsequent 37 or the og sub37? the saturation effect you describe in this review sound like a major pro to me
Thanks for watching! That’s a really tough call. I actually sold my old school voyager and kept my sub 37 just cause of the USB midi, but they really do sound different. Between the sub and the subsequent ill be honest I have a soft spot for the extra saturated sound of the Sub! Add onto that you can find them used for fairly cheap next to the subsequent and it’s a winner. Only thing to note is the Key bed on the subsequent is much better than the sub 37.
Watching this 2 years later (according to YT date) and want this synth badly. I've been screwing around with the microfreak lately, which is awesome. I love the digital synths, but there is NOTHING like that analog sound. It calls to me, and my hope is to have one of these moogs before the world goes to complete sh**! Thanks for the vid!
Glad you enjoyed and absolutely get it! The Moog sound is so classic it really makes up for the limitations. Check out my other video on the Moog Matriarch too!
Bro thank you for doing this review! I've had my 37 for 2 years and this thing is an absolute work horse! I've mostly used it for live gigs but recently I've been doing film scoring with it, and this thing is so much fun. I'm happy you used a bit of reverb to show another way of approaching the synth, I've seen another guy do a similar thing with his prohphet rev2 and it's very creative. I don't use duo mode often either but I think that using it in a patch with reverb does add more dimension and character.
Sub37 got pink noise, not white. More natural. But it would be fun to have both white and pink routable at the same time. Pink is filtered white so it's there
On the train on route to pick one up now 😀 are they heavy? Gotta carry it on the tube? Got a big backpack(full} and luggage bag to carry to. I havent thought this through 🤦🏻
That's so cool, I had no idea you had a TH-cam channel! Thanks for the chance to remix Two Halves of a Heart, had a lot of fun. Also I'm sorry for not giving a like, currently you got 666 of them and I don't feel like being the one, who ruins that haha, but later I might.
@@slippyg I've had both... in fact I had a Sub37 and currently a Subsequent 37 (which is even better)... the OB-6 isn't great for bass vs my Prophet 10 or Sub/sequent 37.
@@SpacehotelMusic totally agree - OB6 does snappy basses nicely but the filter isnt quite right for the types of bass i like. So jealous of your Prophet 10!
I like your video, but does the moog has enough fast enveloppes to get this snappy and punchy 80s bass sound ? I never heard the sub37 do this. Juno 60 and of course pro one can....Your feeling ?
It does! Sub 37 has much clickier envelopes than the Matriarch or Grandmother. It can do pretty much any bass sound you want, you just have to be careful not to go past 12 o clock on the osc mixer cause it saturates so easily which the Juno does not
It’s why I never got rid of my Moog Source. It’s the fattest and dirtiest synth I’ve owned. It screams and growls and the oscillators modulate violently against each other. It’s a speaker cone shredder.
I really like this synth. However it's the same price as the Matrix Brute, which kinda makes me think the Moog is overpriced by quite a way in comparison.
Honestly the recent price hikes make this a tougher sell. I got mine a few years back for $1600cad which is like $1300 usd and that price feels like the max i would pay. Any higher and you are getting into polysynth territory like the prologue 16 which does so much more. It’s still living in my studio after I sold other gear though so it is great
@@MilesAwayOfficial yeah I reckon you got yours at the right time. I've been gassing really bad now for the Polybrute for about a year but music is just my hobble and I'm not absolutley minted so I simply can't justify the price. Even the irridium.
I have both the MB and the S37. I haven't had the MB plugged in for at least a year. For the kinds of sounds in the demo track of this video (the kinds of sounds I like) the S37 just has bigger sweet spots. The MB is better for crazy sounds. If a person was into industrial music and exploring gnarly noise, then the MB would be the clear winner.
Some say that the sub 25 has a "warmer" bass sound than the 37, is that true. In the future I plan to take 25 or 37, although I have not decided yet. (Google translate)
Hey! I never did a patch bank for this cause honestly the patches you are hearing are all so simple. Basically just 2 saw waves with a bit of beat frequency, going into a driven filter. Change the envelope shape and amount as needed. The beauty of the 37 is how good the simple stuff sounds!
Hey man. I’m looking for a synth that I can also use as a midi controller. Will this do the trick? Also don’t know if I can get this or a poly synth. I figure I can use plugins for the poly stuff at first. Any recommendation? Thanks
Hey! This will work as a midi controller (basically anything with a USB midi port that says it can send/receive midi CCs should work as a Midi Controller. Moog Sub 37 is a great choice. You will really get some awesome sounds and hands on control, and I agree, you can definitely get some great plugins for the poly stuff.
From the manual, “The Sub 37’s noise generator produces a signal called pink noise. Pink noise has equal amplitudes in every octave, making it sound deeper than white noise - more like the sound of a waterfall.” Might be analog but I am pretty sure it’s a digital noise source, not that there’s much difference. Happy to be corrected!
Can I poly- (or para-) chain Sub-37 with a Sub-25? I am liking what you are showing about the Sub-37 but I want it to be at least a 4-note synth. Meanwhile, I already have a Sub-25. So if I can chain the 2 units, that will be a compelling consideration. 😊
Late reply but thanks so much for the donation :) I have never tried poly chaining synths as I find its a bit janky, so I can't confirm if it works. If I were you, I would just save a bit more and get a Matriarch if 4 moog voices are important for you, I used to have a Matriarch and its the best moog by far for playing chords, its paraphonic This forum post says polychain does work, but decide for yourself. forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?t=23035
Thanks for watching Gino! Check out my old video Moog Sub Phatty vs Sub 37. The Sub Phatty is the first version of Sub 25, it’s almost exactly the same but looks different and has less features. The Sub 25 / Sub Phatty is a great synth, but I go over pros and cons in that video :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial i have an option to get an excellent condition subsequent 37 CV Limited edition for $1300, would you say that's worth it? I don't really use CV but seeing how it's limited and I see them going for $2k i may be able to flip if i don't like it
For me personally it is. It's just so easy to use, sounds huge, and mixes into any genre easily. Almost all the bass on my new album was made on the Sub 37: open.spotify.com/album/65NNkC1BRl8EtWViffifSX?si=wmeW3m6PQYi7h9Ro1Siptg
@@MadelnMachines 100% it’s very popular for that genre. My stuff is more half time/ pop influenced and it’s great for that. I also use it for all my movie trailer music too. It’s genuinely good for any genre
Late reply - Strymon Big Sky on Cloud mode: it's the secret sauce for recording really huge sounding synths :) thanks for watching and subscribe for more
Moog has been in existence since the 60s. Not sure why in 2024 we need any more "iS tHiS sTiLL wOrTh iT?!" videos. Buy what you want, stop caring about what some random person thinks. No one is going to spend $3-5,000 based on your video.
The 34k people who watch my channel and the companies who send me their gear to review clearly care to hear my thoughts. If you don't, then feel free to move on and not watch. I don't understand why take the time to complain about free content on the internet you clicked on?
Honestly Moog has raised their prices too much in my opinion. If you can get a good deal on one used, 100% its still worth it, but for how much Moog Keyboards cost new now I can't recommend them anymore to most people :/ check out my recent video on the PWM Malevolent! Similar synth and much cheaper :)
@@nepntzerZer totally Moog is amazing! I'd say buy used then if you can, used prices are still good, but they have raised the new prices by like 30% this year . Some really great deals out there :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial price doesn't bother me. I have so much money it would make elon blush. I can buy anything i want. Anything. Even whole people which I don't but if I wanted I could buy a whole person and a house and just keep them as a pet.
Not worth it anymore. A few months ago this synth cost 1,399 Euro where I live, now the asking price is 2,199 Euro. I know it's more expensive to manufacture under the current climate but, sorry, screw this crap.
@@MilesAwayOfficial Most, even Behringers. The only one that has challenged this trend is ASM Hydrasynth. Moog and Sequential have seen some of the biggest hikes.
A few days ago I got a black Matriarch for 1999 € from Session Music in Germany. The coloured one costs now 2199! Strange things are happening not only at German gasstations, where diesel is now much more expensive than gasoline… Thanks for the review. The Sub 37 is really a perfect live solo synth!
I have a weird love-hate relationship with mine. When I first got it a few years ago, I used like every feature, loved every bit of it. As time went on I used less and less of it, and found sections of it kind of annoying (the multi presses for sequencer stuff, etc.) I do noodle around with advanced patches from time to time, but in practical use its usually simple bass most of the time, especially when I bring it to a friends place. Sometimes I wonder if I should go back just having a minitaur again, or even a sub25 since it doesn't have the features I don't use + some extra portability. I kind of wish they'd make a 25 key left hand bass machine, no wheels or anything, basically a minitaur with keys (and some extra controls for hidden shift features.) Alas, that'd be too close to sub 25 or a minitaur. But everyone's use cases are different of course.
Totally feel this. I find I barely use the Sub 37’s deeper features either, but I just love the core sound with the multidrive/ feedback so much. I actually had a voyager and matriarch and sold them both cause I liked the Sub 37 more for my basses (heresy I know), so I don’t mind not using all the features
Saw Stephan Bodzin play last night and can confirm it is definitely worth it in 2022
He’s such a legend! Master of the Sub
Great dive into this cool sounding synth. Totally agree its strength is dialing it in like a mono synth. The filter really growls and shines with each note.Just a ton of harmonics. The reverb works really well with the harmonics. I think this will become a classic, if not already one.
Thanks for watching George! Totally agree. Check out some of my other synth videos, but the Sub 37 is a total classic!
Such engagement in your voice, obvious that you are passionate about this synth.
Good examples!
Thanks so much Pico Terra!
The Moog sound is unique, through a reverb the magic happen. Thanx again for this video : )
Agreed completely! Magic! Thanks for watching:)
When I listen to the sounds, I dance
Any synths on this planet are worth beeing bought! Just buy, experiment and see if it fits to your music taste and style ❤ if not, sell it. Another one will then have the opportunity to do the same thing 👍
Totally agree!
I am watching this in 2024, and I very badly want one of these before the world blows up!
Sell a synth? I don't get it... ;)
Well said
The "KB Reset" feature is actually really useful for single oscillator bass patches (which, as you know, are a must have in most genres of electronica). You get a lot more punch. I learned that from reading the user manual of all places if you can believe that.
great tip, thanks for that!
Some synths come and go … but the sub 37 is keeper since years in my studio! I really like the super intuitive layout of the synth - always an inspiring instrument for me.
Totally agree! Thanks for watching Simon, new synth videos weekly
I have had a sub37 for a couple of years, and have been a synthesist for 35 years. I really enjoyed the video and learned a couple of things. Thank you & cheers.
Thank you for watching! I try to post synth/gear videos with a focus on inspiration and musicality each week so stick around my channel!
My first ever synth. Can’t describe how much of a joy it is to use in so many kinds of music. Always finds a way to enhance the track. Still unlocking new possibilities on this guy years into owning one. Honestly view it as a MUST buy, its that good!
Thanks for the comment! I agree I still love mine now even more!
Best part is the patch you built at the end-great sound!
Thanks for watching Sean!
Its absolutely still worth getting, nothing has happened since it came out to make it obsolete. I personally think the PRO3 is the smarter buy for most people, and there is other competition, but its very much worth considering. Moog sound, with great interface, and lots of modulation, patch storage, stable tuning, duophonic, 4 filter slopes, the multidrive....its truly great
Thanks for watching Christine! I'm in the exact same boat as you. I've got a Pro 2 and while it can do way more, I just gravitate to the sub 37 every single time! Do you prefer the Pro 3? i'd like to get my hands on one to review.
@@MilesAwayOfficial I prefer the PRO3 to the sub37 overall, but prefer the PRO2 overall to either. But its just a complicated enough situation to require some explanation. The 37 and the PRO3 are better stand alone monos, and theres ways to enhance them through connectivity to other gear, but not to the degree that the PRO2 can. That filter section is just too great, plus the two pressure and position sensitive touch strips. Send something with a VCO or two into the PRO2, or send just anything at all into it, and you can do way more overall, then with the other two synths mentioned. PRO2 gives you so much flexibility, and the sound overall is great too, Lush or lovely feedback drive boost distortion. The 37 and pro3 have great filters, but its one filter at a time, no where near as cool as the flex filter section
@@marvinkmooneyoz late reply but I love the praise on the Pro 2. I’ve honestly not gelled with mine that well, but I don’t have modular to connect it with so perhaps that’s the issue. I appreciate the high praise though, I will make sure to try to give the pro 2 more love!
@@marvinkmooneyozthe pro 3 offers a lot more but doesn’t compare sonically to the sub 37’s texture and depth. I literally can make the room rumble with the sub 37
@@teflondaprince I haven’t spent time with the 37 directly, but have heard plenty, I do like the tone, and it has multiple drive options. But the pro3 has drive options, plus a really nice tuned feedback, it has plenty of depth.
Where the sub shines is in the sequencer. It’s so extensive… yet so easy to miss out on.
Interesting! What do you mainly like about the sequencer? I mostly use my Daw to sequence it or play live
@@MilesAwayOfficial The sequencer in the sub37 is advanced, it can record every setting (velocity, mod-wheel position etc) so I use it as a sound design tool while creating patches.
That intro track absolutely slaps -- it's very intense, love it.
Glad you like it!
This synth sounds so overdriven and full of harmonics that it's like it's on fire. Gotta love that! The sound of electricity, brought to you by Moog, the analog legends................................. of high prices.
Agreed! I never understand anyone who says they don't like the sound of the S37, its the most powerful mono synth I've ever tried
@@MilesAwayOfficial Never tried the MFB Dominion 1 ? More rare but same league and really raw drifting 3 oscillators.
Really nice approach to instrument and self.👏🏻👏🏻👋🏼
Much love! Thanks foe watching!
Thank you,I pulled out mine after yrs,no manual.Watching your video to get reacquainted 😊👍🏿🕺🏿🕺🏿🕺🏿
my pleasure!
Kicking myself for selling my sub37....now have to buy again
Happy Friday Castaways! Let me know which piece of gear I should check out next ❤
Great demo! Thanks for showing this synth some love in 2022. I use the dual mode a lot for melodic house for some cool texture
Glad you enjoyed! It's on every single one of my songs still :) stick around for new synth videos regularly!
Great video!
Thanks so much!
Your video made me purchase a Moog Subsequent 37 in Montreal today!
Nice choice! Thanks for watching and stay tuned for tons more synth videos this year 🎉
Great video. I’ve had my Subsequent 37 for a couple of years now and it’s hands down the most inspiring and tweakable synth I have, and I have a few.
The comment on gain staging is spot on. It took me a while to figure out why I could easily get mean, fat sounds but not delicate fluffy ones… it was that gain knob. In most synths you’d think 80% or even 100% is fine. Not here unless you want that monstrous sound.
The other thing is the envelopes. They have so many features controlling how they’re triggered which, together with the glide controls make this a superbly musical synth, since you control phrasing of solos, bass and sequenced sounds so well - much like you would with a physical instrument.
I can’t imagine ever selling my sub37.
Great comment and thanks for watching! Loads more synth videos here so stick around :) but yea the envelopes are incredible on this, I love the looping and synch features. Amazing synth
Wish they did a desktop version. ... and it is a pretty synth. Sold mine to buy a UDO Super6 poly, which sounds really, really magical, but would certainly get another 37 when funds allow.
Awesome! I really want a Super 6 - how do you like yours?
@@MilesAwayOfficial Hi Miles. It isn't an aggressive synth (at least it wasn't until they released the new wave pack), has a beautiful organic timbre, more like a Dave Smith, but with a wider variety of sounds. Great for DnB, IDM and a good contrast for the Summit I picked up after watching your review :) Really tempted by a Sub 37 again, though was considering a Matriarch....?
Nice review! I think I have no other choice than to just go and buy it lol
Some of the sounds it produces are truly amazing!!
Good choice! You definitely will never regret a Moog and if you do they usually hold their value well
thanks for such a good review mate, ive been thinking of selling my voyager for a sub37 and this review has finally tipped the scales for me. one q, would you. recommend a subsequent 37 or the og sub37? the saturation effect you describe in this review sound like a major pro to me
Keep the voyager! But, the sub 37 is the successor to the voyager…
Thanks for watching! That’s a really tough call. I actually sold my old school voyager and kept my sub 37 just cause of the USB midi, but they really do sound different.
Between the sub and the subsequent ill be honest I have a soft spot for the extra saturated sound of the Sub! Add onto that you can find them used for fairly cheap next to the subsequent and it’s a winner. Only thing to note is the Key bed on the subsequent is much better than the sub 37.
Miles Away thanks for your thoughts mate much appreciated
Sub 37 has a little more grit , subsequent is a little more clean
Love it Dev ❤️
Much love Tom!
I love my MEWG! What are the MOUGE's people keep talking about?
the video quality is cinematic excellent, crisp clear and sharp. very contrasty. Must hav had a excellent lighting.
LOL I'll take the teasing, this video was not my best filmed. Check out my new videos the quality is much higher :)
Watching this 2 years later (according to YT date) and want this synth badly. I've been screwing around with the microfreak lately, which is awesome. I love the digital synths, but there is NOTHING like that analog sound. It calls to me, and my hope is to have one of these moogs before the world goes to complete sh**! Thanks for the vid!
Glad you enjoyed and absolutely get it! The Moog sound is so classic it really makes up for the limitations. Check out my other video on the Moog Matriarch too!
Bro thank you for doing this review! I've had my 37 for 2 years and this thing is an absolute work horse! I've mostly used it for live gigs but recently I've been doing film scoring with it, and this thing is so much fun. I'm happy you used a bit of reverb to show another way of approaching the synth, I've seen another guy do a similar thing with his prohphet rev2 and it's very creative. I don't use duo mode often either but I think that using it in a patch with reverb does add more dimension and character.
Thanks so much for the kind words! So happy you enjoyed the video and still love your Sub 37 :) stay subscribed for more synth videos with me
Sub37 got pink noise, not white. More natural. But it would be fun to have both white and pink routable at the same time. Pink is filtered white so it's there
Old is gold and the moog is unmatched.
Still makes it onto every one of my songs!
On the train on route to pick one up now 😀 are they heavy? Gotta carry it on the tube? Got a big backpack(full} and luggage bag to carry to. I havent thought this through 🤦🏻
LOL hope the commute went well and you are loving the new synth!
I’d say overplayed a bit but still worth it! I bit it on the Matriarch
Hey, love your channel dude! Thanks for dropping by and congrats on the Matriarch, it’s a great synth too :)
That's so cool, I had no idea you had a TH-cam channel! Thanks for the chance to remix Two Halves of a Heart, had a lot of fun. Also I'm sorry for not giving a like, currently you got 666 of them and I don't feel like being the one, who ruins that haha, but later I might.
Thanks for watching and welcome! I post new synth, VST, and music production videos every week, stay tuned :)
Driving home the subwoofer was bumping can’t wait to get home and turn that thing on
oh ya! I still do all my sub bass with the 37. Massive.
Seen a few super dj's using it so I'm sold. But I'm curious to why I've not seen Moog Matriarch used by professionals.
Matriarch has no saveable patches! it's a studio / experiment synth. Sub 37 is a workhorse for studio or live.
@@MilesAwayOfficial I see, now I understand, cheers mate, appreciate you explaining 👍
Lisa Bella Donna and numerous other artists do use the Matriarch even on stage. It‘s just another, more experimental approach.
Sub 37 or OB6 for fat bass?? Obviously both is the correct answer :)
Both! Haha. But if I had to pick I say Moog sub 37 for the bass, ob-6 for chords above it :) thanks foe watching Sarah
I have both and the Sub37 is way better than OB6 for bass. Not even a contest.
@@slippyg I've had both... in fact I had a Sub37 and currently a Subsequent 37 (which is even better)... the OB-6 isn't great for bass vs my Prophet 10 or Sub/sequent 37.
@@SpacehotelMusic totally agree - OB6 does snappy basses nicely but the filter isnt quite right for the types of bass i like. So jealous of your Prophet 10!
Brilliant overview
thanks very much! I do overviews of many other synths if you are interested :)
Will still be worth it in 2054.
Very nice review but the lighting feels horrible :o contrary to your music knowledge there is a lot to be optimised
Haha, in retrospect the footage turned out darker than expected. Check out some of my other videos! Thx for the comment:)
I like your video, but does the moog has enough fast enveloppes to get this snappy and punchy 80s bass sound ? I never heard the sub37 do this. Juno 60 and of course pro one can....Your feeling ?
It does! Sub 37 has much clickier envelopes than the Matriarch or Grandmother. It can do pretty much any bass sound you want, you just have to be careful not to go past 12 o clock on the osc mixer cause it saturates so easily which the Juno does not
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Nope i definitely use the DUO all the time...
Only critique is that the oscillators are just TOO CLEAN.
duo notes close together phase very strongly.
Fair! Different ways of using the same great synth :)
Great video! Quick question . When changing presents, is there a way to know where each knob is set at for that present .
Not that I know of, like most synths the knobs jump
old moogs never relied on sub frequencies to be 'fat'... tbf..
It’s true i would prefer 3 full oscs rather than 2 oscs and a sub but you can get pretty close!
It’s why I never got rid of my Moog Source. It’s the fattest and dirtiest synth I’ve owned. It screams and growls and the oscillators modulate violently against each other. It’s a speaker cone shredder.
FK YEE, IF YOU DO ELECTONICA MOOG is the HOLY GRAIL of SYNTH 😃
I really like this synth.
However it's the same price as the Matrix Brute, which kinda makes me think the Moog is overpriced by quite a way in comparison.
Honestly the recent price hikes make this a tougher sell. I got mine a few years back for $1600cad which is like $1300 usd and that price feels like the max i would pay. Any higher and you are getting into polysynth territory like the prologue 16 which does so much more. It’s still living in my studio after I sold other gear though so it is great
@@MilesAwayOfficial yeah I reckon you got yours at the right time.
I've been gassing really bad now for the Polybrute for about a year but music is just my hobble and I'm not absolutley minted so I simply can't justify the price. Even the irridium.
I have both the MB and the S37. I haven't had the MB plugged in for at least a year. For the kinds of sounds in the demo track of this video (the kinds of sounds I like) the S37 just has bigger sweet spots. The MB is better for crazy sounds. If a person was into industrial music and exploring gnarly noise, then the MB would be the clear winner.
Some say that the sub 25 has a "warmer" bass sound than the 37, is that true. In the future I plan to take 25 or 37, although I have not decided yet. (Google translate)
I did a comparison of Sub Phatty (previous gen Sub 25) and the 37! Check it out on my channel ;)
Nah, maybe Vs the new Subsequent but not the older Tribute Edition which is the total ultimate dark bass synth.
Amazing sounds, do you have those patches for sale?
Hey! I never did a patch bank for this cause honestly the patches you are hearing are all so simple. Basically just 2 saw waves with a bit of beat frequency, going into a driven filter. Change the envelope shape and amount as needed. The beauty of the 37 is how good the simple stuff sounds!
Love it ❤️
Thanks for watching!
Hey man. I’m looking for a synth that I can also use as a midi controller. Will this do the trick?
Also don’t know if I can get this or a poly synth. I figure I can use plugins for the poly stuff at first. Any recommendation? Thanks
Hey! This will work as a midi controller (basically anything with a USB midi port that says it can send/receive midi CCs should work as a Midi Controller. Moog Sub 37 is a great choice. You will really get some awesome sounds and hands on control, and I agree, you can definitely get some great plugins for the poly stuff.
Digital Pink Noise? Uhm… where did you read that?
From the manual, “The Sub 37’s noise generator produces a signal called pink noise. Pink noise has equal amplitudes in every octave, making it sound deeper than white noise - more like the sound of a waterfall.” Might be analog but I am pretty sure it’s a digital noise source, not that there’s much difference. Happy to be corrected!
@@MilesAwayOfficial they don't use any digital signals in the chain. It is analog noise.
@@explosionmonty well…, actually… see the video 4:10… they have a digital noise option. th-cam.com/video/psVN9HmoCQI/w-d-xo.html
Can I poly- (or para-) chain Sub-37 with a Sub-25? I am liking what you are showing about the Sub-37 but I want it to be at least a 4-note synth. Meanwhile, I already have a Sub-25. So if I can chain the 2 units, that will be a compelling consideration. 😊
Late reply but thanks so much for the donation :) I have never tried poly chaining synths as I find its a bit janky, so I can't confirm if it works. If I were you, I would just save a bit more and get a Matriarch if 4 moog voices are important for you, I used to have a Matriarch and its the best moog by far for playing chords, its paraphonic
This forum post says polychain does work, but decide for yourself.
forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?t=23035
I already have the Matriarch. ☺️ I love the multi-drive and presets of the Sub-25 so, with it with aftertouch, I am liking Sub-37.
Hi I like your videos I'm in the process of buying a moog what do you think about the sub 25 which one will I get can you help please thanks 👍
Thanks for watching Gino! Check out my old video Moog Sub Phatty vs Sub 37. The Sub Phatty is the first version of Sub 25, it’s almost exactly the same but looks different and has less features.
The Sub 25 / Sub Phatty is a great synth, but I go over pros and cons in that video :)
I have the Eventide Space with my Sub 37.
Great combo!
In the 2050's people will wish they kept these. Music gear never really goes out of style.
amen!
how to get a simple smooth sub bass sound without filter/synth
Agreed the triangle wave on this synth is god tier for sub bass
What reverb were you using? Is that built-in, or an external reverb?
I was using the Strymon Big Sky, its available as both a pedal and plugin. Moog Sub 37 doesn't include any built in FX!
Had one and sold it. Amazing in terms of build quality and overall architecture but i couldnt make myself like its sound… i replaced it with an OB-6 ❤
Fair! You definitely picked a great synth to replace it, I've done 2 videos and a patch bank for the OB-6 and its forever my favourite synth :)
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Wasn‘t there a video where you compared this and the little phatty, I can‘t find it anymore?
hey thanks for the heads up! it was hidden from youtube for some reason, it should be back up online in a few hours!
@@MilesAwayOfficial Great thanks! For a moment I was wondering if I was dreaming this ;)
What about the subsequent in 2024?
I might be crazy but I prefer the sound of the gritty original Sub 37 over the cleaner Subsequent. That's just my 2 cents. But both are great!
@@MilesAwayOfficial i have an option to get an excellent condition subsequent 37 CV Limited edition for $1300, would you say that's worth it? I don't really use CV but seeing how it's limited and I see them going for $2k i may be able to flip if i don't like it
That demo tho.
glad you enjoyed! my biggest video yet, 6 best delay pedals, just came out, feel free to check it out too!
I told my girlfriend I’d like a more regular beat frequency …
She told me I’m gonna have to take care of that myself …
Is this the best synth for bass and sub?
For me personally it is. It's just so easy to use, sounds huge, and mixes into any genre easily. Almost all the bass on my new album was made on the Sub 37: open.spotify.com/album/65NNkC1BRl8EtWViffifSX?si=wmeW3m6PQYi7h9Ro1Siptg
@@MilesAwayOfficial Will do - i'm pretty sure every melodic techno artist has one
@@MadelnMachines 100% it’s very popular for that genre. My stuff is more half time/ pop influenced and it’s great for that. I also use it for all my movie trailer music too. It’s genuinely good for any genre
What is a "respace"?
Reece Bass! It’s a famous type of bass sound that I show in the video, used in tons of early 90s-2000s rave music and used today still
4:10 digital and analog noise sources! 0:12 th-cam.com/video/psVN9HmoCQI/w-d-xo.html
What reverb was that please
Late reply - Strymon Big Sky on Cloud mode: it's the secret sauce for recording really huge sounding synths :) thanks for watching and subscribe for more
super synth but my god the pricing is out of touch
agreed it's crazy how much it's gone up in europe! I got mine used back in the day
Moog has been in existence since the 60s. Not sure why in 2024 we need any more "iS tHiS sTiLL wOrTh iT?!" videos. Buy what you want, stop caring about what some random person thinks. No one is going to spend $3-5,000 based on your video.
The 34k people who watch my channel and the companies who send me their gear to review clearly care to hear my thoughts. If you don't, then feel free to move on and not watch. I don't understand why take the time to complain about free content on the internet you clicked on?
Is it still worth it in 2023?
Honestly Moog has raised their prices too much in my opinion. If you can get a good deal on one used, 100% its still worth it, but for how much Moog Keyboards cost new now I can't recommend them anymore to most people :/ check out my recent video on the PWM Malevolent! Similar synth and much cheaper :)
I like moog tho
@@nepntzerZer totally Moog is amazing! I'd say buy used then if you can, used prices are still good, but they have raised the new prices by like 30% this year . Some really great deals out there :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial price doesn't bother me. I have so much money it would make elon blush. I can buy anything i want. Anything. Even whole people which I don't but if I wanted I could buy a whole person and a house and just keep them as a pet.
@@nepntzerZer LOL then definitely check out the OB-X8. It's the best synth I've ever played imho
The sub37 sound is so dark that even your video luminosity is affected ! (joking😊)
LMAO - yea was definitely still learning the videography ropes back then. Check out my new videos!
you young kids nowadays inventing synth terms like 'awsk". smh
Not worth it anymore. A few months ago this synth cost 1,399 Euro where I live, now the asking price is 2,199 Euro. I know it's more expensive to manufacture under the current climate but, sorry, screw this crap.
Wow that's a huge increase :/ sorry to hear that. All synths or only Moog?
@@MilesAwayOfficial Most, even Behringers. The only one that has challenged this trend is ASM Hydrasynth. Moog and Sequential have seen some of the biggest hikes.
A few days ago I got a black Matriarch for 1999 € from Session Music in Germany. The coloured one costs now 2199! Strange things are happening not only at German gasstations, where diesel is now much more expensive than gasoline… Thanks for the review. The Sub 37 is really a perfect live solo synth!
A little PHATTY is… so why not a sub 37
Good point :D
Stopped the video 5 seconds in when you mispronounced Moog.
that's unfortunate
Tell me you’re pretentious without telling me you’re pretentious….
“Moog” as in “Rogue”…not Moooog
I have a weird love-hate relationship with mine. When I first got it a few years ago, I used like every feature, loved every bit of it. As time went on I used less and less of it, and found sections of it kind of annoying (the multi presses for sequencer stuff, etc.)
I do noodle around with advanced patches from time to time, but in practical use its usually simple bass most of the time, especially when I bring it to a friends place. Sometimes I wonder if I should go back just having a minitaur again, or even a sub25 since it doesn't have the features I don't use + some extra portability. I kind of wish they'd make a 25 key left hand bass machine, no wheels or anything, basically a minitaur with keys (and some extra controls for hidden shift features.) Alas, that'd be too close to sub 25 or a minitaur. But everyone's use cases are different of course.
Totally feel this. I find I barely use the Sub 37’s deeper features either, but I just love the core sound with the multidrive/ feedback so much. I actually had a voyager and matriarch and sold them both cause I liked the Sub 37 more for my basses (heresy I know), so I don’t mind not using all the features