Glenn Lanham no I think what Mark Steven Pandan is referring to was just a slip of the tongue. Dr. Pitre should have said the “three distinct persons of the Godhead” but he said “three distinct persons of the Holy Spirit”.
The Bible says it proceeds from the Father. However, the Holy Spirit is also termed, the Spirit of Christ. The Orthodox are right to maintain the original creed. The monarchia of the Trinity is the Father.
@@Paulkazey1 I believe (I read somewhere) that the problem of filoque is solved. Both statements in Creed (with or witouth filoque) are correct because of the different meaning of the word "from" in Eastern and Western cultures of those times. So the Spirit from ther Father throught the Son is the same as from the Father and from the Son. Correct me if I'm wrong.
if you find the translation of Lords prayer in Greek. You'll find that the statement "our daily bread" used in Greek is not an ordinary bread but "epiousios" bread which means supersubstantial bread.
That would contradict Jesus' statement "You worship what you do not know, we worship what we know...." - John 4:22 Jesus didn't leave us a blind faith. There is no mystery trinity. There never was.
@Tonito Reyes : When God said let US make man in OUR image he was talking to his firstborn created son. John 1:1 calls him God's spokesman or Word who was WITH God at the creation of the heavens and the earth. Proverbs 8: 30 calls him a Master Worker who was BESIDE God when he created everything else (vs 22). If God is a threesome of some sort and we are made in God's image, we too should have this threesome personality. There are some who have a dual personality. It is called schizophrenia. It is a mental sickness. Jesus explained God since humans can never see God. If Jesus was God why would John write that 'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME' - 1 John 4:12 ANY TIME means NEVER. This agrees with what God told Moses. Exodus 33:20 But (God) added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.” The holy spirit is God's power that makes things happen and enables things. Jesus couldn't do any miracles until God gave him this holy spirit or power. It can be likened to electricity from a Generator. Always best to let ALL the scriptures give us ONE true picture.
God is all knowing. Before God created, when only God existed, what was there to know? Don’t tell me God knew the future of everything. God is a logical God. Nothing has no future. To say God can do anything, can God make a rock so big He can’t lift it? That has no answer because it’s not logical. To say God knows to future of nothing is illogical. At creation, THEN God knew the future of everything. So, getting back to before creation, what did God know? God knew Himself. God is infinite perfection. God’s knowledge of Himself can not be any less perfect than the source of that knowledge. The knowledge of God IS God. Jesus is the image of God. God is all loving. When we love someone we say we give ourselves completely to that person. God’s love between the Father and the Son cannot be any less perfect than the source of that love. The Love of God, IS God. The Holy Spirit. Love is an innate quality of God that is not dependent upon His creation. There you have it. God is a Spirit of Knowledge and Love. A unity of three divine persons not coming together but emanating from one divine Being. A tri-unity. A trinity. Deuteronomy 6:4. The Lord our God. The Lord is one. The word for one is echad. That’s the same word used in Gen 2:24 where Adam and Eve shall become one flesh. A unity.
@@Lostandfoundrecipes-lz2mm Golda Mier said that Pius Xll saved Hundreds of thousands of Jews. Hollywood even made a movie about it. The Scarlet and The Black. Starring Gregory Peck
Some famous members of the Clergy on TH-cam explain the Holy Spirit as the love between God the Father and God the Son. Doesn't that remove the Personhood of God the Holy Spirit? I'm not sure. God bless you, Dr Pitre, so very much. 🙏🔥🙏
Not only all what is written in Bible but what was known to church traditionally and everything else about God is summarized as best and as succinctly as trinity. Some never try hard enough to understand it in the intended way (to confine God into their mind or scripts) while hard core justifiers overdo it.
I have no issues with the Godhead, that there are three persons in the Godhead and that each person is a separate being. My issue is the trinity doctrine, who taught in scriptures that these three persons are one substance/essence/being, they one in unity of purpose and scriptures teach that, but they do not teach they are one being.
Billy, each person is not a separate being. A human is one being n one person. God is one being n 3 persons. 3 distinct persons, 3 roles, but one nature n one substance n one being. God is a community of 3 persons.
Scripture doesn't teach anything, it cannot speak. It is an inanimate object which can't be put on the stand and asked what it meant by John *** - it requires an inspired authorised interpreter. Seeing the Catholic Church put the first Bible together in 382 at the Council of Rome where it decided which books were to be included then we confidently claim that only the Catholic Church possesses that AUTHORITY to interpret CORRECTLY".'' Now 1001 men/women/children can claim to interpret scripture but it without the proper authority, it has no meaning. All interpreting sacred scripture however they please is what has led to 30000 denominations all "claiming" to possess the truth. The Holy Spirit can never be the author of confusion. It was never this way in the early church, the apostles and their successors decided doctrine and taught the masses (WITHOUT A BIBLE) for hundreds of years. When it became evident Christ was coming back soon, the Catholic Church held the Council of Rome in 382 to debate, pray on and decide which books would for the Bible and for hundreds of years after that the Church still decided doctrine and then taught the masses. Now it's the other way around, people decide doctrine for themselves. The problem today is many people worship a book.
There is no Godhead or trinity. These doctrines were borrowed from the pagan nations which believed such. Jesus prayed to God. God doesn't pray to anyone. Only his creation can pray to him. Even Jesus never claimed to be God but God's son. Luke 18:19 Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God." www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/is-god-a-trinity/how-ancient-trinitarian-gods-influenced-adoption-of-the-trinity
The Bible teaches that they are all one essence. But let's just deal with the Father and Son first. When God who is a Spirit began creating everything, it was His "Word" that brought things into being that didn't exist before. This "Word" we find in John's Gospel, chapter 1 verse 1, is said to be "in the beginning", "with God", and "the Word was God."
By “development” he means how the teaching has been clarified and expanded on. Development doesn’t mean creation. The trinity is in the bible. But by reading just the bible, you won’t come to understand the whole truth of the mystery without further aid. God bless
If Paul believed the 'trinity' was so essential, why did he never begin all his epistles with any mention of it? Just check chapter 1 verse 3 or 2 of them all and Paul states " Blessed be the GOD AND FATHER of our Lord jesus Christ" Paul taught & believed that The father was supreme and over all, he said "There is ONE GOD out of whom ALL THINGS ARE" ( 1 Cor 8:6) Also "The head of the Christ is GOD". ( 1 Cor 11:3) & "The Son will subject himself ( To God)" ( 1 Cor 15:28 ). read it in the catholic bible!
Thanks Dr. Pitre What was Hard to understand in a man own understanding?? that They were trying to Be GOD and act like GOD.. But if the Religion and the one who are chosen to teach the Right that knew the Torah and Tanak where all started in one Nation to the World.. And GOD presence and His existence will understand.. How Great revelations are now in this Generation how Jesus Teachings waa Real, Truth and Divine.. Thank You Avah Yeshua.. For You want to save your handmade creations.. WE..
The "GRACE" (experienced through and in the Reality of 'The PRESENCE') Of Our Lord JESUS CHRIST and ('The Manifestation' of The One-ness of JESUS with the Father that here again is evidenced within the Reality of 'The PRESENCE' of JESUS in and as) the "LOVE" Of GOD and ((once again, the reality of 'The PRESENCE' Of The Spirit Of JESUS CHRIST proceeding from the Father(-ship) and Son(-ship) 'Person'-attributes of GOD - as 'TOGETHERNESS-manifestations' being embodied in and through)) the "FELLOWSHIP" of The Holy Spirit... ... Therefore, "The Grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Love of GOD and the Fellowship of The Holy Spirit..." Invokes the Blessings (on the People - as a Greeting!!!) Of 'The "PRESENCE" of the 'Unified and Integral as ONE' GOD.
Baptism of Christ. Voice from Heaven and appearance of Dove. And Jesus giving apostles instruction baptize them in the name of the father son holy spirit.
Is one saying that the dove was the holy spirit? The tongues of fire on the heads of the disciples gathered at Pentecost were also the holy spirit? The holy spirit is God's unseen power which accomplishes something in accordance with his will. It can be likened to the electricity from a Generator. This electricity come and enables equipment to work and bulbs to light up. The electricity can never be the Generator. Jesus couldn't do any miracles without getting it from God. Acts 1:8 "But you will receive POWER when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·de′a and Sa·mar′i·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.”
How weird! Is that the same Paul who said in 1Ti 2:5 “For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” Paul doesn’t sound like a good trinitarian at all. Who’s lying and why would they lie? Are you worshipping a false 3 in one God? Do they know they create a false god with their doctrine? Yes, if they’re as smart as they think they are. The Trinity doctrine contradicts Jesus. On the question of the trinity John contradicts Jesus. John contradicts John in his own Gospel. Paul contradicts Jesus and Paul contradicts himself on the question of the trinity. It’s apparent to anyone with a brain it’s the doctrine itself that causes the confusion. Confusion is not of The Father or Jesus. The trinity doctrine is of man and as one would expect it is the essence of biblical confusion. Dispose of its poison and read Jesus’s words for yourself. Never mind the mountain of minutiae one can misconstrue and misinterpret in the Bible. Only Jesus’s words hold the highest authority. Only His words were promised to outlast heaven and earth. Mat 24:35; Mark 13:31; Luke 21:33. This fact, this promise, may prove to be The Finest Miracle. “Outlast”means for the past 2000 years through all the many evil or well intentioned translations Only Jesus’s words remain as He intended! The trinity doctrine is the con that keeps on giving. It brings confusion and contradiction to the bible so the masses will need these clever custodians of the obscure, these privileged interpreters of unintelligible mystery to explain it. Yet mysteriously it just gets more mysterious! Just trust us and deepen your faith they say. Thats nice but that is not how you build a relationship with Jesus. He knows what you believe. He will say Mat 7:23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ In case you forgot the main law since the beginning of time is God is One. Today’s Pharisees have made themselves the irrevocable conduit to God and a higher authority than Jesus Himself. The trinity doctrine Reeks of the Pharisees fatal flaw! Religion hasn’t changed its stripes. Its the same business Jesus kicked out of His Father’s house. Humans don’t change. Corruption is their game. That’s why everything Jesus taught is relatable today and for all time.
The New Catholic admits: "The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is NOT taught in the Old Testament or New" Do those verses say that God, Christ, and the holy spirit constitute a Trinitarian Godhead, that the three are equal in substance, power, and eternity? No they do not! No more than listing three people such as Tom, Dick, and Harry, means that they are three in one!
In Isaiah 43 : 11, how many saviors are allowed and is there a name (proper noun)? Isaiah 45 : 21 and 22, Hosea 13 : 4, give us the same number of savior(s).
The Most Holy Trinity: Three Divine Persons ( Father, Son, Holy Spirit) in One True GOD ( Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14; 1 John 5:7) . I Myself, John Rodriguez, AM a Latin ( Roman Rite) Catholic Christian because of YHWH Elohim, Who is GOD ( Genesis 1:1) , Jesus Christ ( Galatians 1:1) , and the Holy Spirit ( John 20:22) , He Himself is The LORD GOD.🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️♥️🇻🇦🇻🇦✝️☦️⛪🙏‼️
Science best explains it. God is the same as energy. Energy exists in different states but is always energy. Potential energy + kinetic energy = mechanical motion. So... Potential energy is Gods WILL outside of time and existence in a place we can never reach (god). Kinetic energy is God in motion interacting with the universe in time and the existence we live because this kinetic energy is inside every part of his living moving creation including our life essence (holy spirit). And the mechanical motion of god's will in our life is (jesus). Jesus was the ultimate move on god's part to make lasting action on our FREE will. Sure god can do everything but is unattainable and it's only our FREE WILL that enables us to reach him. How you say? Jesus - God made flesh. Without God made flesh as man there was no way we could have a personal relationship and comprehend God. Without Jesus God is distant and impossible to comprehend. As man god met us on our level and had impact that was tangible and far reaching creating a way we can reach god in the afterlife. Focus on a comprehendible God (Jesus) and he will shepherd you to the unattainable realm of God outside of existence as the holy spirit leaves you in your last days. Because rearrange the equation and you have: God =Jesus - holy spirit So focus on Jesus as the holy spirit leaves you and you will reach God (God the father). Science!
Not only all what is written in Bible but what was/is known to church traditionally and everything else about God is summarized as best and as succinctly as trinity. Your kind of cherry pickers never try hard enough to understand it in the intended way (to confine God into your mind) while hard core justifiers overdo it.
"Baptize them in the NAME of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." They are three divine NAMES, not three divine PERSONS! No trinity exists! Who are they? 1. the FATHER : " so that they may behold that glory of mine, which you have given to me, for you loved me BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. 25"O righteous Father, indeed THE WORLD HAS NOT KNOWN YOU, but I HAVE KNOWN you, and these have known that you sent me." The Father is NOT here, He was NEVER here, the world did NOT KNOW Him at all! He still is absent, indeed Jesus HAS KNOWN HIM (i.e. in the past). This is why "No man HAS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME." INVISIBILITY is not the real reason, the actual reason is that GOD (i.e. the Father) IS ABSENT! 2. the SON: He is the Son, the ONLY KING of heaven...(to be continued) 3. the HOLY SPIRIT: you see in 1. that the Father IS ABSENT. However - even if personally missing - God is able to be here IN THE FORM OF A SPIRIT. This means that you have a GOD'S PRESENCE here, He is PRESENT here with his feelings, his words, his actions, but actually NOBODY IS HERE. He is the "SPIRIT OF GOD" ( "God is a spirit" Jn. 4:23,24). The "Spirit of God" is synonymous with "Holy Spirit" (see Mt. 3:16). In other words, Jesus has a "FATHER who is a SPIRIT" and calls Him sometimes "Holy Father", sometimes "Holy Spirit" according to circumstances. Thus, Jesus never says He is "with 1. the Father AND WITH 2. the Holy Spirit" because they are just TWO EQUIVALENT NAMES for the SAME ONE SPIRIT. Jesus doesn't even know what a triune God is.
Was one of history’s greatest scientists, Sir Isaac Newton correct in saying; Trinitarians were mistaken and misguided in its true interpretation of Christianity? Did you know one of the history's greatest scientists Sir Isaac Newton (described in his own day as a "natural philosopher") who is widely recognised as one of the most influential scientists of all time and as a key figure in the scientific revolution, He has many sayings like: The word God is nowhere in the scriptures used to signify more than one of the three persons at once. Sir Isaac Newton believed the Roman Catholic Church was misguided in its interpretation of Christianity, and had returned to idolatry. *Newton felt that belief in the holy trinity was a flagrant violation of the First of the Ten Commandments.* Dr. Thomas G. Barnes, in his book "Science and Biblical Faith," 1993, (distributed by CRS Books) has two chapters on Newton. He says, on p. 44, "Newton was perhaps the greatest biblical scholar of his age." Barnes explains, In 1669 Newton became Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Trinity College, Cambridge, one of the most honored professorships in the scientific world.
Are you the channel that's posting false videos about Father Ripperger? If so, you do realise that you're all going to hell if you don't stop this calumny & repent!
More disregard of the Word of God by Pitre. Jesus clearly said " I and the Father are One." No confusion exists except in catholics who are unfamiliar with the Holy Spirit and therefore are unable to know God. There are not any persons for God is Spirit. The catholic gospel is not the one preached by Paul. In Galations 1:8 Paul said " If anyone preaches another gospel other than the one we have preached to you, let him be accursed." Paul is calling Pitre accursed. Those who preach catholic doctrine are accursed according to Paul. I agree with Paul.
More dishonesty from the catholic church. Paul never baptized in any other way than in the name of Jesus Christ. The trinity was invented by catholics in 381 AD. When the disciples of John the Baptist came to Paul and he asked how were they baptized ? He immediately baptized them in the name of Jesus Christ for he knew that any other baptism was ineffective for salvation. No one who walked with Jesus ever spoke of the apostate term " trinity."
Another misrepresentation of Paul by Pitre. Paul never mentioned " the trinity." He always baptized " In the name of Jesus Christ," never in the catholic invention called the trinity. Spouting catholic propaganda is not truth. Note that Pitre always quotes the men of catholicism rejecting the words of Jesus and the original Apostles. His witnesses never met Jesus nor received the Holy Spirit as commanded by Peter. Baptism in the name of Jesus Christ was and always will be the only effective method of baptism.
Anyone who reads the bible will know that worldly scholars would never be able to grasp the truth. These just use rhetorics and high blown language to show their in-depth 'knowledge'. The gullible fall for it. These videos take us everywhere but get us nowhere. Matthew 11:25 'At that time Jesus said in response: "I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have HIDDEN these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have REVEALED them to young children." Meaning meek hearted ones. Read the bible. If you are meek hearted the truth will become apparent.
@@MidnightIsolde I don’t have problem with art, but it does limit people imaginations. Many people think god look like this or that based on the art they saw
God bless Dr. Pitre. I love these!
Yes indeed! He's fantastic!!!
@@poppyde7314 If you didn't know him you would think he knew what he was talking about.
Thank you, Dr. Pitre
Thank you Dr Pitte
God bless you dr Pitre🙏
I absolutely LOVE these videos!
Thank you for the amazing content Dr.Pitre. your videos have taught me a lot.
Thank you! Godbless!
I think Dr. Pitre mispoke in 4:25. He said "three distinct persons of the Holy Spirit."
One God in 3 Persons, this is Catholic doctrine...
Glenn Lanham no I think what Mark Steven Pandan is referring to was just a slip of the tongue. Dr. Pitre should have said the “three distinct persons of the Godhead” but he said “three distinct persons of the Holy Spirit”.
@@impasse0124 yes
The spirit of God preceedeth from the Father and from the Son
The Bible says it proceeds from the Father. However, the Holy Spirit is also termed, the Spirit of Christ. The Orthodox are right to maintain the original creed. The monarchia of the Trinity is the Father.
@@Paulkazey1 I believe (I read somewhere) that the problem of filoque is solved. Both statements in Creed (with or witouth filoque) are correct because of the different meaning of the word "from" in Eastern and Western cultures of those times. So the Spirit from ther Father throught the Son is the same as from the Father and from the Son. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@@stipepavic3509 You are correct Stipe
@@stipepavic3509, wow! This makes sense!!!❤🎉
I always like it when you bring in a Greek word and show how it does not exactly translate to the literal English
if you find the translation of Lords prayer in Greek. You'll find that the statement "our daily bread" used in Greek is not an ordinary bread but "epiousios" bread which means supersubstantial bread.
@@Ekim1740 How about hallowed, it means holy and consecrated. This makes the Father a Holy Spirit and Acts 20:28 makes the Son a Holy Spirit.
This verse is one of the clearest references to the Trinity in the Bible. Another is the last verse of Matthew's Gospel.
Glory To The Triune GOD
A Biblical truth that we can apprehend based upon what sacred scripture tells us even though the mind may not be able to completely comprehend it...
Yep, my thoughts, too.
That would contradict Jesus' statement "You worship what you do not know, we worship what we know...." - John 4:22
Jesus didn't leave us a blind faith. There is no mystery trinity. There never was.
@Tonito Reyes : When God said let US make man in OUR image he was talking to his firstborn created son. John 1:1 calls him God's spokesman or Word who was WITH God at the creation of the heavens and the earth. Proverbs 8: 30 calls him a Master Worker who was BESIDE God when he created everything else (vs 22).
If God is a threesome of some sort and we are made in God's image, we too should have this threesome personality. There are some who have a dual personality. It is called schizophrenia. It is a mental sickness.
Jesus explained God since humans can never see God. If Jesus was God why would John write that 'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME' - 1 John 4:12
ANY TIME means NEVER. This agrees with what God told Moses.
Exodus 33:20 But (God) added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”
The holy spirit is God's power that makes things happen and enables things. Jesus couldn't do any miracles until God gave him this holy spirit or power. It can be likened to electricity from a Generator.
Always best to let ALL the scriptures give us ONE true picture.
God is all knowing. Before God created, when only God existed, what was there to know? Don’t tell me God knew the future of everything. God is a logical God. Nothing has no future. To say God can do anything, can God make a rock so big He can’t lift it? That has no answer because it’s not logical. To say God knows to future of nothing is illogical. At creation, THEN God knew the future of everything. So, getting back to before creation, what did God know? God knew Himself. God is infinite perfection. God’s knowledge of Himself can not be any less perfect than the source of that knowledge. The knowledge of God IS God. Jesus is the image of God.
God is all loving. When we love someone we say we give ourselves completely to that person. God’s love between the Father and the Son cannot be any less perfect than the source of that love. The Love of God, IS God. The Holy Spirit.
Love is an innate quality of God that is not dependent upon His creation.
There you have it. God is a Spirit of Knowledge and Love. A unity of three divine persons not coming together but emanating from one divine Being. A tri-unity. A trinity.
Deuteronomy 6:4. The Lord our God. The Lord is one. The word for one is echad.
That’s the same word used in Gen 2:24 where Adam and Eve shall become one flesh. A unity.
If denying the Holy Spirit is unforgivable, it is obviously divine, so I'm not sure how they came to that conclusion.
We need a lot more Trinity videos
@@Lostandfoundrecipes-lz2mm
Golda Mier said that Pius Xll saved
Hundreds of thousands of Jews.
Hollywood even made a movie about it.
The Scarlet and The Black.
Starring Gregory Peck
Some famous members of the Clergy on TH-cam explain the Holy Spirit as the love between God the Father and God the Son. Doesn't that remove the Personhood of God the Holy Spirit? I'm not sure. God bless you, Dr Pitre, so very much. 🙏🔥🙏
Probably bonding them together by the same spirit,Holy spirit.
Not only all what is written in Bible but what was known to church traditionally and everything else about God is summarized as best and as succinctly as trinity.
Some never try hard enough to understand it in the intended way (to confine God into their mind or scripts) while hard core justifiers overdo it.
St John Bosco Guide, Teacher and Model for Priests th-cam.com/video/tRa4MhjDjF0/w-d-xo.html
I have no issues with the Godhead, that there are three persons in the Godhead and that each person is a separate being. My issue is the trinity doctrine, who taught in scriptures that these three persons are one substance/essence/being, they one in unity of purpose and scriptures teach that, but they do not teach they are one being.
Billy, each person is not a separate being. A human is one being n one person. God is one being n 3 persons. 3 distinct persons, 3 roles, but one nature n one substance n one being. God is a community of 3 persons.
@@Jwarrior123 Amen. 3 sides of the same triangle. In the same way Christ was both fully human and fully divine, He was two sides of the same coin.
Scripture doesn't teach anything, it cannot speak. It is an inanimate object which can't be put on the stand and asked what it meant by John *** - it requires an inspired authorised interpreter. Seeing the Catholic Church put the first Bible together in 382 at the Council of Rome where it decided which books were to be included then we confidently claim that only the Catholic Church possesses that AUTHORITY to interpret CORRECTLY".''
Now 1001 men/women/children can claim to interpret scripture but it without the proper authority, it has no meaning. All interpreting sacred scripture however they please is what has led to 30000 denominations all "claiming" to possess the truth. The Holy Spirit can never be the author of confusion.
It was never this way in the early church, the apostles and their successors decided doctrine and taught the masses (WITHOUT A BIBLE) for hundreds of years. When it became evident Christ was coming back soon, the Catholic Church held the Council of Rome in 382 to debate, pray on and decide which books would for the Bible and for hundreds of years after that the Church still decided doctrine and then taught the masses. Now it's the other way around, people decide doctrine for themselves. The problem today is many people worship a book.
There is no Godhead or trinity. These doctrines were borrowed from the pagan nations which believed such. Jesus prayed to God. God doesn't pray to anyone. Only his creation can pray to him.
Even Jesus never claimed to be God but God's son.
Luke 18:19 Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God."
www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/is-god-a-trinity/how-ancient-trinitarian-gods-influenced-adoption-of-the-trinity
The Bible teaches that they are all one essence. But let's just deal with the Father and Son first. When God who is a Spirit began creating everything, it was His "Word" that brought things into being that didn't exist before. This "Word" we find in John's Gospel, chapter 1 verse 1, is said to be "in the beginning", "with God", and "the Word was God."
“A crucial text for the development of the doctrine of the Trinity” Can you not hear what has just been said! It wasn’t there if it was developed.
By “development” he means how the teaching has been clarified and expanded on. Development doesn’t mean creation. The trinity is in the bible. But by reading just the bible, you won’t come to understand the whole truth of the mystery without further aid. God bless
If Paul believed the 'trinity' was so essential, why did he never begin all his epistles with any mention of it? Just check chapter 1 verse 3 or 2 of them all and Paul states " Blessed be the GOD AND FATHER of our Lord jesus Christ" Paul taught & believed that The father was supreme and over all, he said "There is ONE GOD out of whom ALL THINGS ARE" ( 1 Cor 8:6) Also "The head of the Christ is GOD". ( 1 Cor 11:3) & "The Son will subject himself ( To God)" ( 1 Cor 15:28 ). read it in the catholic bible!
Thanks Dr. Pitre
What was Hard to understand in a man own understanding?? that They were trying to Be GOD and act like GOD.. But if the Religion and the one who are chosen to teach the Right that knew the Torah and Tanak where all started in one Nation to the World.. And GOD presence and His existence will understand.. How Great revelations are now in this Generation how Jesus Teachings waa Real, Truth and Divine.. Thank You Avah Yeshua.. For You want to save your handmade creations.. WE..
The "GRACE" (experienced through and in the Reality of 'The PRESENCE')
Of Our Lord JESUS CHRIST
and
('The Manifestation' of The One-ness of JESUS with the Father that here again is evidenced within the Reality of 'The PRESENCE' of JESUS in and as)
the "LOVE" Of GOD
and
((once again, the reality of 'The PRESENCE' Of The Spirit Of JESUS CHRIST proceeding from the Father(-ship) and Son(-ship) 'Person'-attributes of GOD - as
'TOGETHERNESS-manifestations' being embodied in and through))
the "FELLOWSHIP" of The Holy Spirit... ...
Therefore,
"The Grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Love of GOD and the Fellowship of The Holy Spirit..."
Invokes the Blessings (on the People - as a Greeting!!!) Of 'The "PRESENCE" of the 'Unified and Integral as ONE' GOD.
Baptism of Christ. Voice from Heaven and appearance of Dove. And Jesus giving apostles instruction baptize them in the name of the father son holy spirit.
Is one saying that the dove was the holy spirit? The tongues of fire on the heads of the disciples gathered at Pentecost were also the holy spirit?
The holy spirit is God's unseen power which accomplishes something in accordance with his will.
It can be likened to the electricity from a Generator. This electricity come and enables equipment to work and bulbs to light up. The electricity can never be the Generator.
Jesus couldn't do any miracles without getting it from God.
Acts 1:8 "But you will receive POWER when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·de′a and Sa·mar′i·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.”
How is catholic different from oriental orthodoxy.
Some orthodox Churches do not accept the authority of the Pope
And after you have done everything to stand!
How weird! Is that the same Paul who said in 1Ti 2:5
“For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”
Paul doesn’t sound like a good trinitarian at all.
Who’s lying and why would they lie? Are you worshipping a false 3 in one God? Do they know they create a false god with their doctrine? Yes, if they’re as smart as they think they are.
The Trinity doctrine contradicts Jesus. On the question of the trinity John contradicts Jesus. John contradicts John in his own Gospel. Paul contradicts Jesus and Paul contradicts himself on the question of the trinity. It’s apparent to anyone with a brain it’s the doctrine itself that causes the confusion.
Confusion is not of The Father or Jesus. The trinity doctrine is of man and as one would expect it is the essence of biblical confusion. Dispose of its poison and read Jesus’s words for yourself.
Never mind the mountain of minutiae one can misconstrue and misinterpret in the Bible. Only Jesus’s words hold the highest authority.
Only His words were promised to outlast heaven and earth. Mat 24:35; Mark 13:31; Luke 21:33. This fact, this promise, may prove to be The Finest Miracle. “Outlast”means for the past 2000 years through all the many evil or well intentioned translations Only Jesus’s words remain as He intended!
The trinity doctrine is the con that keeps on giving. It brings confusion and contradiction to the bible so the masses will need these clever custodians of the obscure, these privileged interpreters of unintelligible mystery to explain it. Yet mysteriously it just gets more mysterious! Just trust us and deepen your faith they say. Thats nice but that is not how you build a relationship with Jesus. He knows what you believe. He will say Mat 7:23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ In case you forgot the main law since the beginning of time is God is One.
Today’s Pharisees have made themselves the irrevocable conduit to God and a higher authority than Jesus Himself. The trinity doctrine Reeks of the Pharisees fatal flaw!
Religion hasn’t changed its stripes. Its the same business Jesus kicked out of His Father’s house. Humans don’t change. Corruption is their game. That’s why everything Jesus taught is relatable today and for all time.
The New Catholic admits: "The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is NOT taught in the Old Testament or New" Do those verses say that God, Christ, and the holy spirit constitute a Trinitarian Godhead, that the three are equal in substance, power, and eternity? No they do not! No more than listing three people such as Tom, Dick, and Harry, means that they are three in one!
In Isaiah 43 : 11, how many saviors are allowed and is there a name (proper noun)?
Isaiah 45 : 21 and 22,
Hosea 13 : 4, give us the same number of savior(s).
The Most Holy Trinity: Three Divine Persons ( Father, Son, Holy Spirit) in One True GOD ( Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14; 1 John 5:7) . I Myself, John Rodriguez, AM a Latin ( Roman Rite) Catholic Christian because of YHWH Elohim, Who is GOD ( Genesis 1:1) , Jesus Christ ( Galatians 1:1) , and the Holy Spirit ( John 20:22) , He Himself is The LORD GOD.🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️♥️🇻🇦🇻🇦✝️☦️⛪🙏‼️
Science best explains it. God is the same as energy. Energy exists in different states but is always energy. Potential energy + kinetic energy = mechanical motion. So... Potential energy is Gods WILL outside of time and existence in a place we can never reach (god). Kinetic energy is God in motion interacting with the universe in time and the existence we live because this kinetic energy is inside every part of his living moving creation including our life essence (holy spirit). And the mechanical motion of god's will in our life is (jesus). Jesus was the ultimate move on god's part to make lasting action on our FREE will. Sure god can do everything but is unattainable and it's only our FREE WILL that enables us to reach him. How you say? Jesus - God made flesh. Without God made flesh as man there was no way we could have a personal relationship and comprehend God. Without Jesus God is distant and impossible to comprehend. As man god met us on our level and had impact that was tangible and far reaching creating a way we can reach god in the afterlife. Focus on a comprehendible God (Jesus) and he will shepherd you to the unattainable realm of God outside of existence as the holy spirit leaves you in your last days. Because rearrange the equation and you have:
God =Jesus - holy spirit
So focus on Jesus as the holy spirit leaves you and you will reach God (God the father).
Science!
The Father and Son are one + the holy spirit is sent to you. Where's the 3
Not only all what is written in Bible but what was/is known to church traditionally and everything else about God is summarized as best and as succinctly as trinity.
Your kind of cherry pickers never try hard enough to understand it in the intended way (to confine God into your mind) while hard core justifiers overdo it.
"Baptize them in the NAME of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." They are three divine NAMES, not three divine PERSONS! No trinity exists! Who are they?
1. the FATHER :
" so that they may behold that glory of mine, which you have given to me, for you loved me BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. 25"O righteous Father, indeed THE WORLD HAS NOT KNOWN YOU, but I HAVE KNOWN you, and these have known that you sent me."
The Father is NOT here, He was NEVER here, the world did NOT KNOW Him at all! He still is absent, indeed Jesus HAS KNOWN HIM (i.e. in the past). This is why "No man HAS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME." INVISIBILITY is not the real reason, the actual reason is that GOD (i.e. the Father) IS ABSENT!
2. the SON:
He is the Son, the ONLY KING of heaven...(to be continued)
3. the HOLY SPIRIT:
you see in 1. that the Father IS ABSENT. However - even if personally missing - God is able to be here IN THE FORM OF A SPIRIT. This means that you have a GOD'S PRESENCE here, He is PRESENT here with his feelings, his words, his actions, but actually NOBODY IS HERE. He is the "SPIRIT OF GOD" ( "God is a spirit" Jn. 4:23,24). The "Spirit of God" is synonymous with "Holy Spirit" (see Mt. 3:16). In other words, Jesus has a "FATHER who is a SPIRIT" and calls Him sometimes "Holy Father", sometimes "Holy Spirit" according to circumstances. Thus, Jesus never says He is "with 1. the Father AND WITH 2. the Holy Spirit" because they are just TWO EQUIVALENT NAMES for the SAME ONE SPIRIT. Jesus doesn't even know what a triune God is.
Was one of history’s greatest scientists, Sir Isaac Newton correct in saying; Trinitarians were mistaken and misguided in its true interpretation of Christianity?
Did you know one of the history's greatest scientists Sir Isaac Newton (described in his own day as a "natural philosopher") who is widely recognised as one of the most influential scientists of all time and as a key figure in the scientific revolution,
He has many sayings like:
The word God is nowhere in the scriptures used to signify more than one of the three persons at once.
Sir Isaac Newton believed the Roman Catholic Church was misguided in its interpretation of Christianity, and had returned to idolatry.
*Newton felt that belief in the holy trinity was a flagrant violation of the First of the Ten Commandments.*
Dr. Thomas G. Barnes, in his book "Science and Biblical Faith," 1993, (distributed by CRS Books) has two chapters on Newton. He says, on p. 44, "Newton was perhaps the greatest biblical scholar of his age."
Barnes explains,
In 1669 Newton became Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Trinity College, Cambridge, one of the most honored professorships in the scientific world.
Paul baptized " In the name of Jesus Christ. " Never in the catholic created trinity.
You are a ignorant heretic, and if you were baptized that way, your baptism is invalided
Are you the channel that's posting false videos about Father Ripperger? If so, you do realise that you're all going to hell if you don't stop this calumny & repent!
More disregard of the Word of God by Pitre. Jesus clearly said " I and the Father are One." No confusion exists except in catholics who are unfamiliar with the Holy Spirit and therefore are unable to know God. There are not any persons for God is Spirit. The catholic gospel is not the one preached by Paul. In Galations 1:8 Paul said " If anyone preaches another gospel other than the one we have preached to you, let him be accursed." Paul is calling Pitre accursed. Those who preach catholic doctrine are accursed according to Paul. I agree with Paul.
Sorry, Jesus isn’t God, nor equal to God. He called our God and Father his God and Father at John 20:17.
More dishonesty from the catholic church. Paul never baptized in any other way than in the name of Jesus Christ. The trinity was invented by catholics in 381 AD. When the disciples of John the Baptist came to Paul and he asked how were they baptized ? He immediately baptized them in the name of Jesus Christ for he knew that any other baptism was ineffective for salvation. No one who walked with Jesus ever spoke of the apostate term " trinity."
Another misrepresentation of Paul by Pitre. Paul never mentioned " the trinity." He always baptized " In the name of Jesus Christ," never in the catholic invention called the trinity. Spouting catholic propaganda is not truth. Note that Pitre always quotes the men of catholicism rejecting the words of Jesus and the original Apostles. His witnesses never met Jesus nor received the Holy Spirit as commanded by Peter. Baptism in the name of Jesus Christ was and always will be the only effective method of baptism.
the trinity = strength(power), love + wisdom(thought), source= aquarian gospel of jesus the christ
Anyone who reads the bible will know that worldly scholars would never be able to grasp the truth.
These just use rhetorics and high blown language to show their in-depth 'knowledge'. The gullible fall for it.
These videos take us everywhere but get us nowhere.
Matthew 11:25 'At that time Jesus said in response: "I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have HIDDEN these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have REVEALED them to young children." Meaning meek hearted ones.
Read the bible. If you are meek hearted the truth will become apparent.
And Dr. Pitre is not one of those worldly scholars. He's very Christian. He's Catholic.
Thou shall not make any graven image into thee
Ok, so what does that have to do with the trinity?
To worship. It's fine to make art, it is the worship of idols (I.e. carved images) that is the issue in that commandment
@@MidnightIsolde I don’t have problem with art, but it does limit people imaginations.
Many people think god look like this or that based on the art they saw