Shuttlecocks - What To Buy & What To Avoid
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2023
- In this in-depth video about feather shuttles, we look at the features you need to consider before buying, do a comparison test of 10 different types of feather shuttles and share what we use! Click to see more useful resources below ⬇️
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After hitting almost 6000 shuttles for this video, we hope you found it useful! 😁 What shuttles do you use? Will you be changing after watching this video? Let us know below! ⬇️
Please review the synthetic shuttle video.
i personally use plastic shuttles as feather shuttles break a lot for me as i practice a lot and its not feasible for me to keep buying shuttles as they arent quite that cheap
Please consider ethical shuttle. 🙏
Some shops & warehouses sometimes have delayed shipments. So I buy what is available in bulk. I use Li-Ning G500, G600, & G800. Victor Champion 1 & Master 3 (my favorite). Surprisingly, I can get 2 games out of the G500.
It's silly that in France (at least in my area), it's so hard to find good shuttles. Buying them on the internet is almost mandatory; in that respect, it's very nice of you to share your experience. I like to play with Yonex Aerosansa 20, but I'll try the 40 if I can. I used to like RSL 3, but they're getting less and less consistent (in my opinion).
Hitting over 6000 shuttles and filming for 9 hours is absolutely insane. Really appreciate the work and dedication you both put in to the videos. I have tried all the yonex shuttles but I also prefer the victor more as well. Sometimes I wish I could go grab all the shuttles the pros discard during tournaments 😂.
Thank you so much 😁 Glad you appreciate the efforts! Haha, so do we!!!!
@@BadmintonInsightYour editing was so good my teacher decided to use one of your videos for us to learn to.
6000 shots and 9 hours of filming! You guys are amazing! Thank you!
It will be interesting to hear your thoughts on hybrid shuttles as well.
Cheers
Ah thank you so much, it means a lot that you appreciate our efforts 😊🏸
9 hours filming and more than 5000 shots. You guys are amazing! 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for making this video! I've been searching for good shuttles to buy for a while now and really needed this!
Started following your channel and find all your videos useful. As someone completely new to badminton (mine and my wifes rackets are arriving today) weve been looking to get the best start we can, racket grip etc. We are only playing for fun and to get moving a little but your videos are appreciated.
I've always watched these videos, very helpful and informative and great editing! Won a local tournament thanks to your guidance!
Hi Greg and Jenny! You guys really inspire me in playing badminton and I love your content you make. You guys taught me how to play badminton with your tutorials, and now because of you I've achieved my goal to be a varsity. Thank you so much!❤
Ah that’s great to hear! Thank you for the comment 😃
Great video, as the secretary of my club the cost of shuttles is one of the biggest issues we face (along with spiralling court costs). We use AS30s but its interesting to see how much more durability you might get from the top tier shuttles.
We've used plastics over the summer to save money which wasnt enjoyable!
Thank you for all of the effort you put into these vids!❤ I'd love to see a review on the hybrid shuttles too
Yay, glad you enjoyed it 😊
Thanks for all your hard work and keeping the badminton community informed. Appreciate this video!
Thank you so much for watching 😁💪
this is my favourite channel soo far ❤❤❤
I've been waiting for thisss, great video once again !!
you guys are the best appreciate the effort! hope you guys make more videos!!❤
Your video was great, the testing seems flawless and you give us great information about the Shuttlecocks.
Also do you have an advice on hybrid and plastic shuttles ? The badminton clubs I've been playing in use lots of hybrid and a bit of plastic for training.
Anyways thanks a lot for posting this !
Awesome video, shuttle testing is very underrated in my opinion, really glad to see you do a comparison video on this :D
Thanks 😃 Glad you liked it!
Support you two's hardwork
thank you for the hard work. Insightful!
Hey,
thank you for the video, I always wondered how different shuttles compare. I saw you playing in Bad Vilbel today, definitely a special moment for me, although the match did not went your way. Wish you all the best for the future!
Ah no way - you should have said hi 😊
That was waaaay more interesting that I expected! Thanks for your hard work, diligence and entertainment!
Question: What are the criteria for changing the shuttle in a pro match?
Super fun to watch. Personally using LiNing G800 and Aeroplane. Victor master ace and Yonex AS 50 are more on the expensive side for me so far.
Please review plastic shuttles too, as beginners often prefer it due to durability and lower cost.
The disadvantage wit plastic shuttles is that they have a totally different feel and flight to feathers, so when you "graduate" to feathers, people will wonder if you've ever played before!
@@stevemawer848 come on, they are different but it's not "you've never played before" different xD
@@MrPiotrV It is in my experience ... YMMV.
Yeah, as a beginner myself who payes mostly with plastics, I would love to see a review of plastic shuttles too.
Plus, how do you prevent mis-hitting when playing with feathers? It has happened to me multiple times and was one reason for me to stick to plastics for now.
@@stevemawer848I mean, it cuts both ways. When you switch to plastic your friends might also wonder if you've never played.
Where I am the Victor Master Ace is $28 a tube. And Yonex Aerosensa 50 is $40 a tube. No one uses them though, we use $9 a tube shuttles. There's a recent trend of using hybrid shuttles that cost similarly but greatly increases shuttles durability.
Appreciate your effort into this video. Really helpful!
Yay, glad you found it useful 😁
Jenny and Greg doing gods work for the badminton community. Good job!
Thank you for watching & for the support! 😁
after watching your video I bought a tube for us to try - Victor Master Ace 78 speed. A success! thankyou
Subjectively, your testing largely matches my own experience. Yehlex Purple were a common choice at junior tournaments when by son was competing on the junior circuit. Personally, I found them very fast out of the tube, but slowed dramatically after just a handful of rallies, making the judgement of clears and drives very challenging. The Yonex 30 is a good compromise shuttle for clubs and county-level. I was surprised you had one fail so early in the testing. Generally, they seem fairy durable to me. I have no experience with Victor (would love to try them!). The Yonex 50 is a lovely shuttle and some decades ago I played in a league match at Woodhill Prison, Milton Keynes (yes, against actually prisoners and guards - the only place we never felt like disputing a line call LOL) and they were using the then top tournament grade Carlton feather shuttles that were really good, too. That's your taxpayer pounds at work.
Hello you guys helped me a lot specially with my smash ❤ love it keep it up
we appreciate the massive effort here guys! definitely learned a lot. I personally love hybrids cuz they are so durable & perform close to feathers. hope they perfect this tech soon!
Do you find them a bit heavy? I tried the Kawasakis for coaching lower ability players and they felt horrible to me.
@@richf1182 I also found them to be on the faster side. Hybrids are typically available in speeds 77 and 78 (sometimes 76), what did you play with?
@tschoo6476 77 - speed wasn't too bad, just felt very heavy off the strings.
Congrats to you guys for nearing 400k subs! You got a bright youtube career after badminton for sure! 😊
Thank you so much! It's crazy to us haha 😱
@@BadmintonInsight Thank you for being so kind, humble, and giving as well. I don't recall too many world class players taking so much time to make informative videos, but just not that, to reply to comments to viewers on youtube. Keep being wonderful human beings, you're an inspiration to many!
Amazing effort guys 👌🏻 needs pure dedication.
Thank you 😁
I love this channel it helps me so much to get better and some tips and tricks thank u Greg and jenny
Thanks for the support 🫶
You guys are just AMAZING, continue like that I love your content !!!
Thank you so much!! We'll try our best 😁
We play with a 5 pound a tube of 10. Its hand made and we buy from manufacturer. He has adjusted the weight and speed according to our humidity and temperature. It lasts almost 2 club level games. Overall the price and quality is perfect for us. The international companies have unnecessarily kept the price so high. AS 50 is available in KL at 20 pounds.Its high time they should rationalise the price and reduce their margins there by higher adoption.
thankyou, on your suggestion I got some Victor MasterAce. Excellent shuttles!
awesome !! super duper commitment of 6000 shots and the patience to do this for 9 hours 😍😘
It's nice to live in a country with so many different alternatives. Here in Argentina almost no one plays and we only have plastic ones, but for this amateur level and playing for fun it works.
Brilliant! Just what was needed!
Ah that’s great to hear 😃
i bought some fz forza hybrid 5000 3-in-1 shuttles. i find them to be very durable compared to feather shuttles(even more than the victor master ace), but they also fly quite a bit further. we usually play with 77 speed and people shoot out more often with these shuttles. i think this is just how hybrid shuttles fly.
Thank you for the dedication to test the shuttles, it was indeed insightful to see the various different options, and yes you are right, definitely worth the investment to get higher end shuttles. For the level that my peers and I are playing at, we are using RSL Supreme, lasts pretty well for us. If we can afford it, definitely would love to play with the AS40/50 and Master Ace for sure haha.
Thanks a lot, glad you enjoyed the video 🥳
From a club perspective , seconds and use outside of match play is very valuable as it is not about just the elite playees , but for wider use at club practise. 😊
Yes - we keep all of our shuttles for our 'multi-feed' box 😁
Thank you for your motivation for all these tests and of course your good mood :-)
I know I'm potentially going to raise a debate, but as a vegetarian, continuing to play using feather shuttles really isn't easy, always looking for good alternatives! I tried but apart from the classic 300, no one really wants to try anything else...
Great review, thank you so much! I’m really curious how the Aeroplane Black (EG1130) fares against these other shuttles. It is one of the most popular shuttles in the Bay Area (San Francisco) as well as the Boston area. We are seeing more Victor Master Ace use as well btw.
Aeroplane Black also most popular w int-adv players in Toronto, Canada.
would be good to see the Aeroplane Black EG1130 and the RSL Tourney No 1
Epic content. Thank you so much for this!
Glad you enjoyed it! 😁
one thing I never understood is people complaining about the "feel" and "sound" of plastic shuttles. it's a matter of habit, if you only play one of them, the other one will feel strange, as simple as that. having said that, this is a great video, fantastic work.
wow perfect timing, was just thinking about buying shuttlecocks
Thanks for another great video! I'm very excited that you guys will play in Finland this October and I will have a chance to watch your game in person. Have you considered doing any activities for subscribers while you are in Finland?
Thanks for watching! We’re looking forward to playing in Finland 😁🏸
Love u guys so much been watching every videos!
Amazing, thank you so much 🥳
It can be a bit of a lottery when playing in a local league, as you don't know what your going to be using in away matches. To get the best deals clubs lean towards bulk buying, so you can be faced with one speed of shuttle, irrespective of the changes to the relevant playing temperatures throughout the season.
With the significant increase in shuttle prices seen over recent years, it's an ongoing balancing act between quality v club finances.
Thank you for the great video. I've watched this right when it came out and thought about this a little more. Using all these shuttles for so long must've been a lot of work.
However, I feel the point you're making is fairly obvious: pay more, get longer fun playtime with one shuttlecock.
I would be very interested in a comparison in these price ranges. Could you maybe compare shuttlecocks from various brands for instance in a high or medium price segment and then determine the differences?
Love your videos!
Not necessarily- some of the lowest priced shuttles actually held up better than the mid-range price, so it wasn’t as simple as “pay more = get more time with 1 shuttle”!
Not necessarily- some of the lowest priced shuttles actually held up better than the mid-range price, so it wasn’t as simple as “pay more = get more time with 1 shuttle”!
Great video as always! Did you also find Yonex AS 50 feels slightly heavier than Victor Master Ace?
Do you guys have a video edited for the Hong Kong open? Thought you guys did well🙂
In Toronto, Canada 🇨🇦, Aeroplane Black has been the longest favorited birds, secondly LiNing G600 and recently LingMei. Lastly, Perfly has been recently frequently seen (more w beginners) as its the lowest priced from a new bigbox store called Decathlon.
Well, this onz was very insighful as always ! Thank you for your sacrifice (of both time and money 😮)
Do you know what causes such difference between shuttles ? Are they produced differently ?
When you review synthetic shuttles, please include the Kawasaki King Kong 500 shuttles in your comparison video. I've heard they have amazing durability and are great for training.
Hey, great video! Totally different topic, but I was wondering how you guys stay motivated when you’re having a period where you don’t win anything. How do you deal with it and how do you overcome this? It’s only about the mental process because the techniques are not the problem for the moment… I would love to hear your advise on this 😊
My boyfriend and I always look forward to a new video of you guys ☺️
You have to analyse your losses and learn from them! If you heed the lesons that should keep you motivated. And also consider often you're more likely to lose than win (nobody wins all the time, not even Victor!) so you have to accept that it's part of the game. Buit so long as you enjoy playing, that's enough! When you stop enjoying it, stop playing. 🙂
We use the AS50 in Germ the most , they´re amazing.
Off topic but do you guys have any video on how to play overhead shots. I would really appreciate if u make one if u havent already. I can never seem to reach them on time, let alone play them. Thank you and great video as always:)
How or where would you store your shuttlecocks? Esp the new and sealed one. As you mentioned storing in dry environment will affect their feather.
In Hong Kong we usually use below brands for shuttle:
RSL Supreme or Ultimate
VICTOR Master NO.3
Hi-qua (Red)
Lining G600
I noticed a pattern when using tournament grade shuttlecocks.
Tournament grade shuttles' quality are consistent and more durable to more hard hits, but has very brittle feathers so they are very unforgiving for players who always miss hitting feathers.
I wonder if this has anything to with goose feathers being used compared to duck feathers used for non-tournament shuttles.
Informative video as always, good to focus on the price rather than the brand since you are sponsored by Victor. 👍
Thanks! 👍
In Sri Lanka we use a shuttle called Ling-Mai and Lining Gold the most. We experienced that in a high altitude where it's the coldest place in the country the shuttle is extremely fast, even speed 75 would not make it normal. Is that the same you experience?
Please make a detailed video on practicing Pronation and how to improve it in gameplay , specially for forehand shots.
LOVE FROM PAKISTAN
Your videos helped me a lot as they are very insightful.
In my country Indonesia, the producers of victor shuttle here also make their own brand named Regency gold, honestly i never tried those shuttle but my friends said it was the same quality as victor gold but has cheaper price which is 5 or 6 pounds maybe
Yonex AS20 Feather Shuttles are by far the most popular option and what most consider the standard great shuttle.
AS30 is a slightly more expensive alternative but most at club-level don't go to AS40 or AS50 unless they're Pro.
Thank you for the amazing video 😀
You’re welcome 😃
Thanks for the extensive test! Would have been cool if you threw a hybrid shuttle into the mix because they seem to really gain traction among recreational players with a tight budget. Maybe you could test them too? I believe most hybrids are made by the same company (Dmantis 3in1) with different OEM branding. Would be interesting to hear what pro players think about them.
We’ll definitely take a look at them! For this one we just wanted to focus on feathers otherwise it would have been very long!
@@BadmintonInsightfair enough! Looking forward to your opinion on hybdrids 😊
I've tried Bird2 hybrids and while they have a much better flight than plastics, they're still far short of the quality of feathers for "proper" play. I wonder why no-one has tried fabricating plastic feathers and fitting them to a conventional cork base - they should fly like feathers but be much more durable.
@@stevemawer848 aren't the Bird2 full plastic? Hybrid means they still have real feathers (depending on the brand either goose like Babolat, or duck like FZ Forza), but are part plastic which makes them cheaper in production and more durable. I'm wondering the same thing, with today's engineering and possibilities, wouldn't it be possible to produce a great nylon shuttle, also for the animal's sake? There were efforts to develop fully synthetic feather shuttles (e.g. Victor Carbonsonic) but reviews suggest that they are not significantly more durable than real feathers.
@@tschoo6476 They have a cork tip which makes them a bit heavier than "plastic" shuttles, and they fly a bit more like feathers. So not full plastic, hence hybrid?
(You were good to remind us this fantastic trick shot you did in Copenhagen last time 😉)
😂
Quite surprised by your choice of practice shuttle! I guess professionals really mis-hit much less than casual players.
Would love to hear more on plastics and hybrid shuttles, especially the higher end ones(which are quite hard to get)
oh, and storage method for feather shuttle😄--how do you keep them moist
Having a wet tissue or similar in the tube helps.
Store them in your bathroom (that's the room with a bath or shower in it for you 'Mericans!). I've found standing them on their feathers on a baking tray (with sides!) filled with a thin layer of boiling water is a good way to "steam" them gently over a low heat. On a hob, not in the oven!
Great Vid. Its always a minefield when choosing shuttles and for a lot of amateur clubs it is balance of cost. I know you are not able to test every shuttle on the market, but i would be really interested in a vid testing something like the Carlton GT1, which are nano coated aimed for durability. I got a box of 12 of these for x-mas a few years ago and thought they were not too bad, and have went through a couple of tubes over the years, but at my level it is hard to compare, and my club generally use a mid cost shuttles. Greetings from Scotland :D
Thanks a lot! Yeah as we mentioned in the video, it would be almost impossible (or at least take weeks & months) to test most shuttles on the market 🤣😅
i don't have money to support you but i'll just like your video and watch them.
Thanks for the info :) Here in the Philippines the brand XP2 is the most used in practices and tournaments. It costs about 13-14 US dollars.
Oh nice, we've not heard of that brand! How's the durability?
@@BadmintonInsight definitely not for pros. The performance varies due to some XP2 shuttlecock being fake which is very common here. Still, I can say that it suits the majority of players like me which are on the weaker side 😅
Really Cool video thank you for everything u do
Thanks for watching!
Hey guys! Could you maybe do a racket review for the new victor thruster TTY racket? Thanks in advance!
Terrific video. I would like to know about the hybrid shuttles (kawasaki 500). Most of us can't afford real feathers. 😢
Great video as always. A little comment to help you improve your video if I may. Could we have a score-board on all shuttles tried to make sure which one is the best (for you at least). Maybe it was a choice to not do that, I respect it as well :)
Thanks again for your content, loving it ! I personally use the AS30 (did not find better quality/price yet). Will try the victor as well (I am sponsored by victor as well :p)
Thanks! 😊 Yeah it was actually a conscious choice to not do something like this - the point of our testing wasn't to specifically say "this is the best" as it really depends on your budget, what's available in your area etc! But we just wanted to show "after hitting it 500 times, this is what it looked like". Hope that makes sense 🏸
Great video! Thanks for this. Just a thought tho:
If you did all this in a single session from cheap --> expensive wouldn't it create a rather strong bias in favor of expensive?
I imagine the first 100x smashes will have have close to 100% of your power.
The last 100x smashes are likely to have >90% of your power.
I imagine at your level of Badminton the 10% is a massive difference for a shuttle 🙈
Thanks Jenny and Greg for this video!
One question tough, if top tier shuttles are able to withstand couple hundred of shots, why they are changed so often during pro matches?
Pros are often picky and superstitious. They'll also change just to get another 5 seconds of rest time.
Interesting🤔
If you're not paying for shuttles, why wouldn't you always want a new one! 🙂
Thanks for watching 😁 Yep, some correct answers below haha! Our thoughts: players change shuttles frequently for many different reasons: it's slightly fluffy and they want to keep the shuttles speed (so they change it), they're tired and want a rest (so they change it), or they've lost a couple of points in a row and want to break their opponents momentum (so they change it). It's not as simple as "it's broken so lets change it"!
@@BadmintonInsight
Thanks for answer ^^
Hmm, so are the shuttles still in good condition then reused in some way e.g donated to local clubs?
If no, it seems like quite a lot of waste. Everything according to rules but still...
This is exactly the video I was looking for. I was about to ask what shuttles do you use for play/practice. Shuttles in the US are extremely expensive. Probably the most expensive compared to any other part of the world. Did you steam the shuttles before use?
Hope you found the video useful! No we didn't (and never have)
I wish you would have tested RSL Classic. I found that they are very durable.
Really appreciate the effort you put into testing the shuttles. Based on this we tried the Victor Champion Ace at our fairly standard club night. We use Yehlex Championship at around £19 per tube. The Victor ones at £33 are 1.75x more expensive. Sadly we did not get the results you did. The Victor shuttles did last longer but not by much. I think the results you obtained are mainly down to the quality of your game. You admitted very few if any mishits. Sadly club players mishit often, otherwise we would all be playing against you guys. Way too expensive for club play. Will try one tube for league match this week and see how that goes with just the better players from two clubs.
Thanks Alan 😊 Oh that's a shame, but yes as you mention in your comment we are rarely mishitting shuttles and like we said in the video, this is a key factor to how long shuttles will last! Hope you get more out of them in the league matches - and good luck for them! 🏸
Excellent and thorough video, well done! The thing with plastic shuttles is they may be cheap and last longer but it's a completely different game compared to using feathers. And, contrary to what a lot of people think, they don't last forever and have to be thrown away at some point! Stop using them, people!
Thanks Steve! Haha, yes - definitely a different game! 😅
what is the name of the pads for target practice, and is there a link I can purchase them? Thanks
What speed is good for the UK climate (generally speaking)? Also, it would be great to do a video on the best Hybrids?
My local club and friends all play with plastics, but I have a coach and he uses feathers - it's often frustrating to go between the two. I think hybrids might be a nice next step.
We generally use 77/78!
Hi insight channel im wondering if you can do a test on the decathlon shuttlecock (feather) from 100 pefly 930 i really wanna see the difference. Thank gou 😃
i would love too see the difference among those shuttles when cut halved on the shuttle head. amazing video ❤
Thanks! Interesting suggestion - what would you be hoping to see? What would the benefit of cutting them in half be?
@@BadmintonInsight It allows you to see the composition of the cork. A lot of cheaper shuttles use a mixture of synthetic and natural cork. Higher quality shuttles use 100% natural cork since it allows the shuttle to keep its shape for longer.
Some shuttles will have really good feathers but a bad cork so it becomes squishy before the feathers begin to break, that's why good shuttles have both a good cork and feathers.
Thank you Greg and Jenny for this informative video (and goddamn this was much harder than I thought).💀💀
Haha, it took much longer than we thought too 😂
How about RSL Supreme? Quite commonly used in Singapore. Also Protech / ProAce shuttlecocks.
Great review and good win at the HK open, we use RSL and it’s quite common here, do you have those in England?
Thanks! We have used them before, but never in training before - just in a couple of competitions
Useful video! Have you also tried Snowpeak c1101, which is approved by BWF though? Thoughts on that?
You know what i use plastic shutters and just bc of this video im gonna try out feather shutters
Big thumbs up from Finland!
Thanks 😁👍🏼
which tournament are you guys gonna play next?
Hi ya, r u guys gonna post the Hong Kong tournament video?
Great video, but we probably all have noticed that, shuttle availability varies a lot dependent where you’re. And from my personal experience, shuttles quality from big brand like yonex, victor also varies from where you buy them from. If you’re not living in the uk, probably the best way of buying shuttle is to ask local club what do they use.
Yes the brands typically offer similar line-ups worldwide, but they can definitely vary!
Great vid!
Thanks!
Nice guys.
I have one question if I only play with nylon shuttles, do I have an benefit when I go for high end rackets ? Can you make a video about it?
You will yes but probably not as much! Your strings will play a part too
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I'm curious to find out (maybe you have an answer to this question) whether the Yonex AS40/50 and Victor Master Ace shuttles you used in this video are made in China? How about the ones we can get in retail stores across Southeast Asia, let's say Singapore and Malaysia, are these specific models of shuttles manufactured from the same Yonex/Victor factories in China and comparable in quality and durability as the ones used in your clip?
Additionally, compared to the shuttles used at major BWF tournaments, how do these top-notch Yonex AS40/50 and Victor Master Ace shuttles differ in feel, playability and durability?