They said DrunkDeer made the best gaming keyboard...
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After constant pestering by the masses I've finally reviewed a Drunk Deer keyboard. But will it replace my beloved Wooting 60HE?
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In Australia, a75 is half the price of wooting and comes with comfort of buying from Amazon
I feel like wooting would get more sales if t was on amazon
yo, did you end up getting an a75? i dont "need" a new kb but my eye on it. being in aus makes it so difficult to get these kb's, i see lists of 8 kb that are great/good and almost none of them available in aus or are priced with overseas prices with postage. a75 for $207 on amazon is looking good to me
A75 Pro is a little nicer. I think those light colored keyboards look cheap. Black is better @@a2daj83
Love the smart analysis yet hilarious humor at the same time, definitely one of my favorite reviewers.
Keep it up ❤
Fantastic review! I did buy one of these recently as I couldn’t justify the jump to a Wooting nor did I want to deal with Razer and SS (had bad experiences) and overall I love it.
Your negatives are well warranted but given the software is all online my copium is that DD will add it in future! Subbed!
Hello, I just saw your thing with the 0.0mm rapid trigger not working, 0 means off lol
"but in reality i was just feeding"
damn
Why are these the most entertaining reviews while still being an actual review
Great review as always ... specially with the humor in it. What is your preferred actuation point for Apex on it? I have it, I enjoy it but I ended up setting the activation on 1.0. Lower felt weird as I would sometimes release unintentionally the keys.
Also ... just tested and it is now working with the 0/0 on the down and up stroke. So I'm trying actuation point at 0.5 and 0/0. Seems to be working.
Heads up for ppl looking for specs. This keyboard uses a kg649u pcb. Optimum Tech has already reviewed the high ground kb with the same pcb. Delay was almost 3 times as much as the 60HE. I guess the message here is to just save up for a wooting if u want the best performance rapid trigger kb.
Extra info, End Game Gear uses a kg659u pcb. Which I assume is the updated version. But it is still around double the latency of a 60HE. Is the extra 60ms noticeable? Idk...
had to choose between this and the Monsgeek M1 HE a few months ago. went for the monsgeek m1 HE because I found out that the a75 uses clips to keep the keyboard together. I had my own experiences opening a Redragon K Fizz and it was the most frustrating things I had experienced modding a keyboard. so I decided to just pay more for the monsgeek m1 he. and disclaimer, i was looking for a 75% layout that's why i didn't go for a wooting, then wooting announced their 80HE a month after i bought the monsgeek m1he >.>)
"The 60 HE has created a high standard" Yeah. Give me that key wobble baby. I love when my keys make sounds when I don't touch the keys.
the ninjutso sora v2 you show interest me a lot
Ninjutsu scammed me on the Sora V2. No 8K or 4K dongle like they advertised. You get the mouse and a 1K dongle. And as of now Ninjutsu doesn't sell dongles separately.
@@thinkforyourself5672 How? I bought two Sora v2 (white and pink) and both came with the 4k dongle. Did you buy directly from them?
@@thinkforyourself5672 u gotta wait for it to release dumbdumb 😆
@@thinkforyourself5672It looks like they sell a Sora V2 and a Sora 4K. 99 USD and 120 usd and no dongle sold on its own weirdly
@@thinkforyourself5672 bro it says on the website that the 8k dongle will be sold separately in the future😭
There's also another Rapid trigger keyboard called the Monsgeek M1 HE and it comes with better sounding magnetic switches (akko cream yellow magnetic switches) and it comes with an aluminum case all for the price of $160; it's $30 more than the drunkdeer. Will you be reviewing more of these rapid trigger gaming keyboards as they release?
For $130 it's definitely the better value rapid trigger keyboard atm. Maybe they can make the software keyboard on their website to glow instead and change colours when switches are highlighted for rapid trigger adjustments. Otherwise , for just offering a rapid trigger experience, it's a great value options.
You didnt measure the latency or mention the polling rate. Two key parts that many keyboard makers aren't improving.
Tbh nothing beats the wooting's swtiches and actual latency. The others all use these different switches that all seem to experience the same issues I've seen mentioned with lower latency actuation and issues with the rapid trigger. Even Optimum tested this and made a video about it. The best thing to do is just get a wooting, move it to a new case and customize it. Simple as.
Also wooting has been working on a new HE80 that they do community updates on their youtube each week. Seems to be coming along fairly well.
afaik it's not the switches but the pcb. Wooting, as of writing this comment, is miles ahead when it comes to their software and hardware. Still, 2024 is looking solid with all of the upcoming HE boards!
@@peaupi Yea that too. I heard good things about gateron jades so I odered some to throw in there and see how they perform.
@@saint_snowActually I feel like Raesha switches perform better than Lekkers (if we are referring to stock keyboard experience). I own both DrunkDeer and Wooting and Lekkers were wobbly as hell, Raesha switches were buttery smooth. Recently I've replaced Lekkers with Gateron Jade and I love them, much better than Lekkers
yeah but does it have a volume knob?
@@testermonkey2304 Don't need one when I have separate dac/amp to control my audio with it's own knob. I just keep the pc at 100% and use that.
I like the drunkdeer, and it has better physical features at face value, but the wooting is still the best performing from tests I've seen. Plus, I can't get past cheap build quality. Just wish Wooting would make a TKL already.
Just put the wooting pcb in a custom case
@@Alsry1 yeah, but it's a 60% pcb? How would that give me dedicated F keys? I don't wanna use layered functions on the 60
@@Chugs4Serotonin well that wasnt mentioned in the original comment, you just said cheap build quality.
also layed functions is really not that bad, unless you work in content creation or something and constantly need macros to photoshop and shit.
theres also a wooting full size if you really need the f keys for some reason.
@@Alsry1 to be fair, you said get a new case for the drunkdeer. I want a wooting tkl. Just trying to figure out how putting a wooting 60% pcb in a TKL case would fix my issue. Did you mean to say upgrade the the drunk deer, or? Because you have me lost my dude. Either way, I'm probably just going to deal with the 60 or grab the full size. I want a TKL so I can game without sacrificing mouse space, and have f keys for macros with editing.
I love your vids, Im looking for a new keyboard!
also, another great thing about this keyboard is that this is obviously less popular compared to the wooting, so there is almost no scalper for this product in any way.
I also own one of these. In some games rapid trigger is super useful. In some games. Like dark tide. It can be less useful. Lol
However I love the keyboard and can't go back to standard for gaming. My main complaint. Is the keycaps. For the ABS keycaps. It's prime delivery status. But getting PBT keycaps, which is standard pretty much in the industry now. Takes like a month for delivery. I would expect it to be standard for PBT at this point.
i play cs2 a lot and i want to get a new keyboard. razer huntsman v3 pro tkl is 215, steelseries apex pro tkl is 195 and this drunkdeer is 125. What should i buy?
Please try the Boog75 next!
yes please do this
i only got the a75 cause wooting didnt offer a 75%. it gets the job done. tried a huntsman mini and it was too small for me
The wooting though can be modded to become way more premium and have a better sound profile by adding an aluminium body.
1. 75%
2. Nearly half the price of the 60% competitors
I see no reason not to buy this keyboard tbh.
Significantly higher latency and less sensitivity than the Wooting.
Despite all the competitors on the market now, Wooting still performs better than them all, hence the demand for the Wooting.
Others offer better typing feel and build quality, but then so have regular non HE boards for years. If you're gaming, performance simply beats feel or build quality.
@@NeonMako Its not significantly higher latency - its under 2ms (1.75ms) different. The reality is the vast majority of people aren't going to be able to tell that latency difference, so its not worth bringing up. For all intents and purposes, as long as RT functions as advertised without dropping inputs or inputting when it doesn't need to, you'd be more than hard pressed to tell the difference.
With sensitivity (I'm assuming you mean rapid trigger/actuation point), both are pretty much the same. Wooting's 0.1mm sensitivity is more like 0.15, vs DD's 0.2mm sensitivity, so on a technicality sure wooting is more sensitive but no one is telling the difference between 0.05mm. (That's not to say that Wooting can't go more sensitive, but they've chosen not to in order to prevent accidental/false triggers)
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i have both and the difference isn't all that significant unless you consider 3ms a significant difference, and overall the drunkdeer feels much better to use, at this moment in time wooting has better latency and software and they are the founders of rapid trigger so they will forever have my support as the innovators but they still have things to work on.
@@NeonMako If you really think that a 2ms difference in latency Wooting offers is significantly lower, then you've simply fallen for the gaming keyboard marketing.
Comparing 2ms vs 4ms keyboard doesn't mean that you can react 2x faster. 2ms vs 4ms means that your total reaction time goes from ~302 ms to ~304ms for a total of ~0.5% difference. That is after including ping, human reaction time and other factors, like the time for the system/game to register clicks in imperfect conditions, opposed to the lab ones. Small latency differences between ultra fast keyboards just aren't something that could give anyone a real advantage.
Not to mention that fast keyboard presses aren't even important in most competitive games, maybe except for mobas.
What really can make a difference for gaming though is the rapid trigger option, but it's not Wooting exclusive anymore. There are keyboards that offer it too, but cheaper and with better build quality and keycaps.
The only reason why Wootings are still relevant is because they pioneered the entire rapid trigger thing.
@@xVaneviI agree, but once the software gets improved it won't even be a competition unless Wooting really improves the price/performance ratio with their future models. Obviously I respect that they were the first ones to introduce rapid trigger, but hopefully they won't just sit on that fact to make money.
And let me tell you, no one actually considers 3ms latency difference to be high. Hell, I bet most people wouldn't even find a difference between 1ms and 30ms even after extended usage. It's mostly a marketing placebo imo.
Love your reviews. Software you can't download/use locally is a deal breaker for me. Same for lacking onboard profiles. The cleaning/disassembly issue is closely related to any modding so that's not great either. Hopefully the manufacturer will iterate and improve.
We are always improving! We've already noted frustration in the community regarding the lack of onboard profiles (hardware limitation), so we intend to include more onboard memory to allow for it in future. Additionally, the browser software is going to have a desktop port of it made once we finish adding features and fleshing out the web version. And hopefully the next revision of the a75 will have design improvements for modding; the alu case already uses screws and we're looking at any possible ways to keep a solid feeling board while making it easy to take apart.
I own the Wooting, Apex mini pro, Razer Huntsman V3 Mini, Arbor 65 and the Endgame Gear KB65HE. Last week I got the Boog 75 which blows every one of these keyboards out of the water. Yes it's expensive but the build quality is phenomenal. It's the nicest pre-built I've ever owned or used. Highly recommend
Boog 75 looks great i'm curious to try it also for me is better than wooting ....IMO the price is good and you already have the aluminum case included..not like wooting .....u have to pay 130€.......and if u want to take some accessories or other to improve it u will spend almost 400€ lol.....at the moment i have steelseries apex pro mini and Varmilo Victory is another great keyboard is as speed as wooting and with 190€ u already have the aluminum case and i love the cyber punk style of that keyboard and they are faster than wooting with shipping I got it in less than 1 week
0mm is disabled
0.1 and onward is On.
10 bucks to whoever makes this man laugh.:)
great video DLR.
The A75 Pro is pretty much the same price right now and looks a bit nicer
Really nice keyboard but requires hand lubbing, some stabs mods and aluminum case to sound great
I'd love to give a shoutout to the VGN VXE ATK68/ATK75 as the next RT boards you can try, Chris ^^
attack shark k85 might be a decent option as well for a cheap rapid trigger board
I just bought one this week. So far it’s been excellent.
Can you please review the HyperX Pulsefire Dart? i know its old but I want your thoughts on it. I like the wireless charging aspect of it and its cheaper here than the logitech G305.
please do a review on the EZ60/EZ63, i see very little coverage on that
AW, too early. Wooting's 80he will be the best once released in a few months.
When you put on turbo mode for the a75 you can only have the color blue static or turn it off…
So many rapid trigger keyboards are coming out but they're all ANSI only.
Exactly. Keychron Q1 HE have an ISO but it's barebones only.
setting RT to 0mm turns it off
then why does it say its turned on on the left?!
😮
@@DiamondLobbyReviews yeah it's definitely something that the web driver could do better, it's a bit confusing
@DiamondLobbyReviews I think its for per key adjustments, because on the left it shows that RT is enabled for every key, but you can choose to turn it off for certain keys using that slider
the pop-up video at the end isn't popping up :(
it works now (you have to watch the entire video again for it to pop up trust me bro)
Is that the Zowie U2 in the background?
yes
Bro I was just looking at Drunkdeer keyboards wondering if I should get one and then this video popped up!
i got one a few weeks ago and i love it. it had web software now that works flawless
@@dewbe5327 Yeah mine just arrived today, pretty neat. I just wish you can change the default LED colour while under Turbo Mode, so I just turned off the LED instead.
if you want the best of the best, get wooting.
if you cant afford it - get drunk deer.
I think I saw a sora v2 in the background, will there be a review soon?
hopefully
If i could i would use a old skol windows 95 - 2000 keyboard with a laser mouse anyday
wooting clears 🙂 good video
2:46 dude are you okay???
Didn't expect that... lol
Why dont you have latency info in any keyboard reviews?
Maybe you would like the boog75?
Nice U2 over there.
Damping foam*
My drunkdeer died after using the software:(
The Drunkdeer A75 Pro is a lot better. It has an aluminum case too.
As usual, no ISO Nordic version.
Wooting 80HE will be the new best kb.
can ou review vxe r1 pro max?
actually the upcoming wooting 80he is better, and the 60he is still getter than the drunk deer kbs
Polar 65 and Wooting 60he are basically identical tho. Not sure why it's not talked about more often
Any arguments?
Getting a Wooting is overpaying at this point
@@aleksandrmikhailov3255All the people saying wooting is so much better have literally 0 valid arguments other than "the latency is imperceptibly better, despite others like me that have had both seeing no difference whatsoever.
Saw the 2 in the back ground, cant wait for thhe review
vgn vxe atk68 is better tho
Sounds good 🎉
Looks like a keychrone clone...
Good grief did the 70's lose a keyboard? That is got to be one of the most horrendous kb I have ever seen imo.
I love my 8bitdo keyboard.
try the Boog75
ye, a keyboard vid.
wrong layout
"best keyboard" meanwhile requires specific drunkdeer switches TRASH !!!!
no different from Wooting keyboards only supporting Lekker switches
@@SleepingFumos wooting is garbage they scammed me with the analog laser keys than they came out with magnetic hall and doubled the price like pfft never buying anything from them again and i think the wooting supports gateron HE switches like the jade ?
@@RealJonzuk oh, thought it was only Lekker switches, but i guess it makes sense they also support other Gateron switches since they are also the ones who made Lekker.
@@SleepingFumos lol gateron really made the lekkers? wooting is so trash of a company having a deal with a chinese PCB maker so nobody else can get the certain software things on the keyboard, just wait til someone there in china stops caring and we get it in every keyboard lol
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Video starts at 5:20. Lots of yap
how about you yap off??!!
Early!
All of these sound awful, but I guess the Wooting is the least shit?
Magnetic/HE switches hasn't sounded as good as mechanical switches per se but maybe in the near future they might be. The Drunkdeer sounded decent here.
@@joshuadelsaraza4782 it’s crazy but the $100 Redragon Fidd is the first HE keyboard that actually sounds good. I’m testing it rn. If only it were wireless.
It's bad, cheap plastic with a chinese pcb and a lot of latency
There's a alum variant and wooting uses Chinese pcb and the diff is 3 ms. Well done mate u just played yourself now get some sleep
wooting is chinese
you need to compare the best gaming keyboard wooting 60he (they said), with BOOG75 by Meletrix