Ayrton Senna's first F1 car 🇧🇷🏎️ | The Story of Toleman Director's Cut 🎬

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    Yesterday’s French GP was the home race for the Alpine team. But the team first entered the sport in 1981 as the tiny Toleman team, that would launch the careers of the great Ayrton Senna, and designers Rory Byrne and Pat Symonds. Watch the full story of the team’s journey from struggling to qualify to nearly winning the Monaco Grand Prix just 3 years later.
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  • @N3V2-Nevto
    @N3V2-Nevto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    If Ayrton was still alive, he would be along this gentlemen also sitting around them and tell stories from the Toleman era. So happy they got the Toleman team back for a reunion in this special occasion. Thank you Sky Sports F1 team!

  • @theshrew69
    @theshrew69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great piece. If only racing was like this now

  • @davidnoels2586
    @davidnoels2586 ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic story 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I remember that media in general didn’t bully the team and sensed some respect from the paddock

  • @jimmy5353
    @jimmy5353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    only 11k views? come on... new fans just need to learn and understand a little bit history. This is such brilliant video! Watching Ayrton was my whole childhood.

    • @yellow_x522
      @yellow_x522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well, i don't think this video is gaining much traction in the algorithm. The only reason I found it is because I manually searched for Toleman 1984.

    • @eerhartb3996
      @eerhartb3996 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yellow_x522 I searched for “season review 2002” 😂

    • @yellow_x522
      @yellow_x522 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eerhartb3996 now that's 18 years too far 😂

  • @TheFlatCapFromWN5
    @TheFlatCapFromWN5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    15:01 For just a moment, Derek Warwick de-aged by nearly 40 years.

  • @Kevakazii
    @Kevakazii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    What an excellent documentary piece. These videos are incredibly important, not just for entertainment but for History. It blows my mind that in 100 years time people will be able to look back on the history of the sport and actually see it like this. Amazing.

    • @davidmartin565
      @davidmartin565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea amazing

    • @joseavs
      @joseavs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Agreed. I remember when Senna - which his nemesis in F2 was Martin Brundle said about him a very gentle words of admiration.

  • @Taylor___
    @Taylor___ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This is a gem. Amazing Sky and Brundle

  • @davidchapman3042
    @davidchapman3042 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Its a crime how underrated and unnoticed some of sky’s amazing pieces like these go.especially stuff with martin

  • @jeremydennis176
    @jeremydennis176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you Martin .. you make sky f1 what it is , fantastic insight into days gone but never forgotten .. passion

  • @Lot76CARS
    @Lot76CARS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Well done Sky F1, utterly enthralling television! Seeing those former Formula One drivers jump back in those cars has made my day. For Brian at 75 and Derek’s in his sixties to jump back in a F1 car on a wet day is huge achievement. Brilliant to hear the story of this remarkable giant killing team, it must have been wonderful to be part of this.

  • @stewroo
    @stewroo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That 83 Toleman with the twin wings is just the coolest.

  • @attilabori4734
    @attilabori4734 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great to see these lads (Lads) around. I remember the poster with Senna in the double-wing TG184 at Monacos hairpin on slicks (a photo from one of the practice) in my room for ages...
    Is Mr Henton till wearing his (original?) GPA helmet???😳🤔

  • @iancarr8682
    @iancarr8682 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not much mention of Brian Hart who was responsible for the engine, the Hart 415T.

  • @bentp4891
    @bentp4891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Imagine a new team rocking up in F1 now trying to build both their own car and engine in a year.

  • @sergioponti8902
    @sergioponti8902 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's great to see just how happy Derek, Brian and Martin are.

  • @kkuenzel56
    @kkuenzel56 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Respect gentlemen! Looks like you had a blast out there!!!!

  • @papayamadness1019
    @papayamadness1019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Drivers like senna ......made the car look good
    In 2022 , the car makes the driver look good
    That's a fact

    • @DeLaCroix1211
      @DeLaCroix1211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Rose tinted glasses mate

    • @andrewbragg504
      @andrewbragg504 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not even today's 2024 redbull would make mazipin or latiffi look good

  • @V_N_Carvalho
    @V_N_Carvalho 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi, everyone, I'm from São Paulo State, home of Interlagos F1 Circuit.
    Where I could find a complete Documentary about tiny Toleman F1, if not in a British Broadcasting?
    Britons know how to do an exccelent job when the issue is Formula 1, the motor racing culture overthere, the Goodwood Festival, the time British Media gives to F1, I "take off my hat" for your good job... 👏👏👏

  • @Taylor___
    @Taylor___ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imagine you could go back in time and say ‘hey guess what, if you design the wing like this you’ll go much faster’ ha.

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So Senna, from the way he left the team, ruined the budget and the owners were forced to sell. And then the car was good for pole position anyway. That both killed Toleman and sealed the future for Enstone. Who'd take wins from Senna a bunch of times.

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wants Senna’s fault Toleman wasn’t even the team he wanted to drive for, he tested for Williams and was faster than all the drivers they had but would y have an open seat for a year or two. Toleman was losing sponsorship before Senna left in the middle of the season they lost the main sponsor, them sitting Senna out probably didn’t help them.

  • @peters5333
    @peters5333 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Saw this last night. Got chills. I remember that Monaco race very well. Ayrton was a hot shoe coming out of British F3 and was Martin and yes he could've should've did win that race except for the corrupt FIA favoring Prost but I also recall the British media was not completely enamored with Senna yet. Hearing Murray and James is like nothing has ever changed. I would recognize those voices anywhere. However, who recalls that Stefan Bellof almost overtook Prost and Senna prior to the end of the race. Pat Symonds is an instructor advisor at Cranfield (along with his day job) where one of my former co-ops just finished his Masters in Engineering. Enjoyed seeing Super Hen as well. Same guy! And Derek Warwick has not aged other than grey hair.

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bellof was still a ways back but he was catching them in an illegal car.

  • @mait1995
    @mait1995 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We need more of theese documentary/podcast type videos including people who were part of it back in the day. Nice informative watching during an off season. Also lovely to see theese cars used on track where they belong to.

  • @johnmorrison27
    @johnmorrison27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely bloody fantastic what a team 👍👍

  • @Whyteeford
    @Whyteeford ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fact that Senna managed a fast lap and 3 podiums in a TOLEMAN was insane! And as a rookie no less...Greatest driver ever, and its not even close.

    • @andrewbragg504
      @andrewbragg504 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jim Clark?

    • @neilanleveque8490
      @neilanleveque8490 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you could still ask senna himself he’d say Jim Clark was the best ever.

  • @patthewoodboy
    @patthewoodboy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Hart engine , built in the Pinnacles industrial estate in my home town of Harlow 🙂

  • @christiancondin4496
    @christiancondin4496 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hopefully Sky will do follow-up of this with the Benetton years 1985-1995.

  • @olly3597
    @olly3597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lovely to see f1 history at Brands Hatch

  • @andreavelinodacosta1418
    @andreavelinodacosta1418 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really emotional to see this ... Amazing !!!!!

  • @carlossanchez007
    @carlossanchez007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, beautiful documentary, thanks a million Toleman, and Martin!

  • @joseavs
    @joseavs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Formula 1 is for sure a great Brit sport. Period. Senna when we won one of the Formula One Championship said: “ I am a kind of British racer. My career start here in U.K. “ Thank You for this great video.

  • @AndrewDRSWilliamson
    @AndrewDRSWilliamson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the original garagesters 😍

  • @hazy33
    @hazy33 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The usual F1 corruption killing off anyone that dared challenge the status quo. And that continues to this day, see Andretti.

  • @chicobicalho5621
    @chicobicalho5621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always associate Pat Symonds with the Williams renaissance of 2014. Sadly, Williams no longer seems able to rise from the ashes as it did 9 years ago.

  • @B-A-L
    @B-A-L 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I often wonder what would have happened if Ayrton Senna had gone to Tyrrell and Martin Brundle had gone to Toleman instead, given that at the time Tyrrell was considered the better team and Martin had a better start to his career.

  • @phantom213
    @phantom213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful documentary and it made me emotional! Love those cars and of course Ayrton is not forgotten!

  • @huntGRN
    @huntGRN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Sky and Martin, this was incredible to watch

  • @bmf97ss1
    @bmf97ss1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I love this era of F1

  • @blankblank124
    @blankblank124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you please add some more adverts? One every 2 minutes isn’t enough.

    • @MrJoromekiq1
      @MrJoromekiq1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can install an addblock program and not watch them anymore. I watch videos completely free of adds

  • @Peter-or8oc
    @Peter-or8oc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine what they could've gone on to be if they only had enough money to not have to sell the team ?

  • @eduardhenny5725
    @eduardhenny5725 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bellof would have won MC84, not Senna...

  • @gavinmellon9313
    @gavinmellon9313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb!!! Loved every minute of this.🏎🏁😃

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Points back then meant 5th or 6th.

  • @samgiamarelos4524
    @samgiamarelos4524 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brundle needs to let go of senna

  • @Harvles93
    @Harvles93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so well done.

  • @fasthracing
    @fasthracing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful.

  • @jasonmagill9137
    @jasonmagill9137 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful doco, as an F1 fan since the early 80's I loved seeing how much enjoyment the guys got from driving their old cars once more.

  • @neiljames5362
    @neiljames5362 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the wet especially around Monaco the skill really shows. Incredible drive

  • @old_dan
    @old_dan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing cars. I wonder, are these in museums or in private ownership?

    • @neilwooding3401
      @neilwooding3401 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All privately owned Dan

    • @old_dan
      @old_dan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neilwooding3401 Thanks.

  • @ederrodrigues4587
    @ederrodrigues4587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😃🇧🇷

  • @BobbyGeneric145
    @BobbyGeneric145 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the footage of the season being usdd from... Is it from a season review ?

  • @rynosraceroom66
    @rynosraceroom66 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are my favorite ! Great content . Thanks Martin🤘🏼🏁

  • @rubeninniger8893
    @rubeninniger8893 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Belgian I would like to apologize to the Toleman team

  • @Oliviiiful
    @Oliviiiful ปีที่แล้ว

    this is great. those cars are made to be driven, not has showpieces.

  • @damienspurs147
    @damienspurs147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💜🇧🇷

  • @Daisy-ns2xn
    @Daisy-ns2xn ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you all, for the love for motorsport

  • @Commander-McBragg
    @Commander-McBragg ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible show. Very well-done.

  • @projectdx8624
    @projectdx8624 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the music at 10:03

  • @Ghost_Lap
    @Ghost_Lap ปีที่แล้ว

    Top stuff

  • @yellow_x522
    @yellow_x522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love that U2 song.

  • @hendriegrimberg5016
    @hendriegrimberg5016 ปีที่แล้ว

    The car is beautiful ❤️

  • @theRCLlama
    @theRCLlama ปีที่แล้ว

    Pure class 🫶🫶

  • @jethroboorer2860
    @jethroboorer2860 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a magic video

  • @jean-noelcollard4583
    @jean-noelcollard4583 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot!!!

  • @yomotii
    @yomotii ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic...

  • @chrisflee1
    @chrisflee1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful.

  • @radomiriz
    @radomiriz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Was this not shown before?

    • @leeriddick7
      @leeriddick7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes but it wasn’t anywhere near as long, this is the full director’s cut

    • @radomiriz
      @radomiriz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leeriddick7 Ah, yes, I see that in the title now. Thanks for that.

  • @kessu83
    @kessu83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "nearly won" ...since when the guy that comes second is nearly won? twisting the reality....not nice Mr Brundle...
    Forgetting about BEloff, coming 2s a lap faster than SEnna, Forgetting SEnna damaged his car and could not have finish the race...

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sennas car was fine it was Prost who’s brakes was failing and Bellof car was illegal and was DQd. Ickxs was also the Porsche sports car driver at the time probably was trying to help McLaren who was using Porsche engines. He actually got in the way in the long run costing Prost the championship to Lauda.

    • @kessu83
      @kessu83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zacharyradford5552 Sennas car had front right suspension damaged from kerbing...pat symonds accounts. Check it before being that unpleasant please.

    • @kessu83
      @kessu83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zacharyradford5552 Bellof was not disqualified, he finished 3rd and no claims were made during the grace period. Different thing is if later on FIA doesnt take that result into account for world championship points... Bellof was 3rd and that still stays to this time.

  • @markholroyde9412
    @markholroyde9412 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful, F1 with spirit, not the boring mess it is today...ugh.