Brands Hatch Formula 1 Test Days 1984 'Senna' in the Toleman TG184/Hart
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- Formula 1 Test day footage from Brands Hatch 1984 featuring some big names in the 'Awesome' Turbo cars' Ayrton Senna in the Toleman, Nelson Piquet - Brabham, Nigel Mansell - Lotus, Stefan Bellof - Tyrrell, Rene Arnoux - Ferrari.The Turbo cars were extremely powerful and very quick.....turn the sound up and listen to the Power of these amazing machines.
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![Formula 1 TURBO Era | 800HP Toleman-Hart TG183B [TECH TALK]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HOmXMdiF04s/mqdefault.jpg)
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Your "handycam" footage of these races and test sessions are Gold. Thank you so much for sharing them with us!
Treetop64 Many Thanks treetop.......basic cameras back in those days....no image stabliser etc, but they came out pretty well considering and the sound recorded very well on Betamax tapes......thank you for your comment and glad you enjoyed the footage of some legendary drivers in some awesome race cars........regards Barry
Absolutely agree, pure gold.
Thanks Ryan
Barry Price "That's Gold, Barry. Gold!"
Ja ich könnte das stundenlang sehen 😍😍
ahhhhh Stefan Bellof. ... maestro taken away much too young.... and I swear I was there the day you took this video... man the memories thanks so much :-)
Genau, das war Stefan Bellof 🖤 Danke für das video 🏁
Those cars were really fast and brutal, as a Brazilian it's amazing to see Nelson and Ayrton flying over the track from this view. Awesome footage
SENNA king. 🇧🇷🏆🏆🏆 O Maior piloto da História da F1.
Wonderful footage. Thank you for sharing!
Great stuff!!! Nice to see Stefan Bellof powering the only atmospheric Tyrrell-Cosworth DFY around Brands!. What a great race track...
+Jochen Gaa Thank Jochen.........Bellof was a class act, great to watch him 'Ragging' the Tyrrell.........Regards Barry
@@BarryPrice1959 Stefan in the 956 was a sight to behold: Ickx was the endurance maestro, but even he had to take a back seat during Stefan's meteor-like career.
Great footage.. pure gold! Thank you very much
+TNT Video Glad you enjoyed it TNT..........Regards Barry
You are one of my heroes for this my man. Tysm!!!!!!!!!!! R.I.P. Senna & Bellof 🙏🏾
These videos ,really do take me back to the day . Was their for the Grand prix. Loved every second of it . Thanks
Thanks for uploading! Absolutely brilliant footage from a wonderful era.
Lanky Turtle Thanks Lanky.....some great sounds and speed from the Best era in F1....Cheers Barry
This is simply stunning. And listen to that noise! fantastic
Before my time sadly (born in 1992), awesome footage. I love those dart nosed Brabham BMW's. I actually prefer the sound of the BMW and Hart 4 bangers more than the V6's.
Great stuff, Barry.
As a brazilian F1 fan since early 1972, due to Emerson Fittipaldi, it is fantastic to watch again Piquet, shinning after the 1981 and 1983 F1 world titles, and Senna in his first F1 year. I was able to see these guys in Rio, my home town, during the F1 Brazilian GP in the 80`s. From the grand stands the 1982 F1 GP was fantastic. The battle between Piquet, Villeneuve and Rosberg it is something that I will never forget. Unfortunatly, Jacarepagua, the race track where the F1 Brazilian GP took place, doesn`t exist any more. Thank you very much and congratulations for the excelent footage.
Thank you lipcovitch1 its nice to see these legendary Car & Drivers from back in the 80's the cars were very Quick and I enjoyed quiet a few British Grand Prix events at Brands Hatch.......its good to be able to share this footage with other Formula 1 enthusiasts.........Regards Barry
Those were the turbo charged days of F1 and I remember them so well as they bring me back ro my early twenties in the 1980"s, a time I wish I could go back to. We were all frightened of the A.I.D.S. scare at the time and Michael Jacksons Thriller album was rampant on the aiwaves and the chicks had bushy big hairdos. The "workout "craze was pushed by celebrities like Jane Fonda, Arnold Schwarzenegger and since Sylvester Stallone was every girls heartthrob the guys all wanted to be Rambo! Oh the eighties ! What a party!
Thanks for the upload Barry. Certainly brings back alot of memories. I will never forget my intro to F1 in Adelaide 85' and your video takes me back to that glorious time.
No Worries Trent.....glad you enjoyed the footage.........Regards Barry
I love that old school turbo tech it looks such a handful but my god that and the fencing and lack of protection is something to behold looking back. Amazing footage thank you so much
Looks like a playground of legends! Awesome video!!!
+Genison Elbert Kobe Yes it was a very exciting era in F1, some amazing cars and drivers on a 'Classic circuit', proper F1.....regards Barry
Lucky chap to be there watching these awesome cars LIVE in that era... Thanks for the videos. Sending shivers down my spines and giving goosebumps! Love it
Thanks Jaz, glad you enjoye the footage of the 'Turbo' cars at Brands, and of course Bellof ragging the Tyrell round the GP circuit..........Regards Barry
Fabulous video Barry. I went to the British GP at Brands that year, so to see (and hear!) them again brought back some very happy memories. Those cars were awesome! Cheers, Martin
cymruambyth65 Thank You Martin....Glad you enjoyed the video.....yes those cars were something special.....a golden Era in F1........Regards Barry
fantastic video! THANKS! for posting! Brilliant
Thanks Oscoe......glad you enjoyed the footage......Regards Barry
Again a tad before my time- but fabulous! That boy Bellof looked very talented....
Chris McMahon Thanks Chris.......yes I loved watching Bellof 'Ragging' the Tyrrell he was a talent in F1 and Sports Cars....he went on to drive the 'Arrows' BMW turbo cards and was spectacular in that aswell.........great days of F1...........Cheers Barry
Bellof was a tremendous talent, taken too soon (Sept 1985 at Spa). Both his F1 seasons were with Tyrrell though.
The original turbo era was great in Formula One and I am thankful that I got the chance to see those cars and drivers race on many occasions after F1 came to my home town (Adelaide) to race in 1985.
+Holden308 Yes they were spectacular cars, awesome sound and outright power, driven by some of the legends of the sport.I too was fortunate to experience the sights and sounds of the 'Turbo' era.....Regards Barry
My father and I were at the 3days (fri,sat,sun) of the event that year. Being 13 years old at the time and it being my 12th British GP. The sounds of the turbo’s over runs and the pops and bang up into Druids echoing through the trees, and standing on the bridge going down the back straight feeling it lift and shake as the turbulence off the cars wings hit it are great memories. Thanks for posting this great film.
Great track,great drivers,great era and great video.Cheers for the upload.
Merseysidenforcer Yes totally agree with that.......Classic Era in F1..........Regards Barry
Outstanding! Thanks!!!
Really great footage. I love the turbo's but it's great to see Bellof with the V8 Cossie thrashing around. I'm a regular at Brands these days and the good thing is the circuit hasn't changed too much, Pilgrims Drop into Hawthorns is exactly the same, albeit with a bigger gravel trap!
Thanks GDH1981 yes brands is my local circuit too.........my first meeting was in 1975 as you say the circuit hasn't really changed that much but the trees have got bigger!........some changes at Sheene curve and a few bits an d pieces.....Dingle Dell is still very much as it was.....a great circuit one of the 'Classics'......thanks for your comment....Regards Barry
thank you for this, especially without talking or music. A genuine "you're there" perspective!
All of these cars are very hard to drive in assetto corsa without TC/ABS; highest respect for all these legends in this vid
Thanks for this, I was there that day!!!
Wow, made my heart race and brought back so many memories....
+CompleteF1 Thank You.........some great sounds in those days and some great drivers.........cheers Barry
My god...I remember all these cars watching the 1984 ESTORIL GP....Live I was a kid back then
Awesome footages! I was lucky enough to race in Formula Palmer Audi at Brands Hatch, back in 2009. Just awesome!
+Manzarra211 Thanks Manzarra........as you say 'Awesome' cars and drivers at the Brands Hatch GP circuit.......maybe one day we will see F1 Back st Brands?...........Regards Barry
Totally cool. Circuit view angles unseen on "official" race coverage. The track's much bendier than I'd realized. Especially great views of Paddock and Pilgrims' Drop/Hawthorn. God, these cars were fast!
astonishing video! :D
PanchoxXx391 Thank You......Cheers Barry
Beautiful file!. Reminds to me the when I was a Kid going to see F1 with my dad.-
Fantastic stuff Barry 👍👍👍
If this is a home video camera, then it beats every other I remember from those days.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Pedro.........it was filmed on a sony betamax camera and recorder, probably one of the first consumer video cameras on the market.........it did a good job for back in the day.......wish they had HD back then.........but its not bad and the sound was excellent.............Regards Barry
Sony was on top of they're game, that's for sure. And Betamax was the best system. Never really understood why the market went VHS instead.
Ok Barry, again, thanks for sharing!
Regards, Pedro.
Wow great video
Cracking video. Thanks for sharing.
JWRPayne Glad you enjoyed the footage......great era in F1....Cheers Barry
So cool!!! Thx a lot
Bellof looks like he is really on the limit there amazing footage
Amasing video! I was not born yet so I never get the chance to see these cars. This video helps me experience them
Glad you enjoyed the footage jraybay.............cheers Barry
Thank you!!!
Your Welcome.....
wish i was there. great vid
The "Graal" your video... ❗Thanks👍🏎️🏁🤓🇨🇵
Love this, Bellof driving the XXXX out of the Tyrrell
And the Turbo cars really have lots of power, you can feel it...
+Jochen Gaa Sure Can....
Vim aqui só pelo Stefan Bellof. Great vid
+HistoricaF-1 Thank you, Regards Barry
Great stuff Barry. There were 2 future world champions that day & my 2 favourite Formula 1 racers ever. Mansell & Senna. Mansell & Senna were destined to be future world champions by their commitment at seen above in your video. However Stefan Bellof showed so much potential himself it is a tragedy of what happened. RIP Stefan Bellof.
Thanks Kurt, yes Bellof im sure would have gone on to be a top driver along with the likes of Mansell and Senna, watching him 'Ragging' the Tyrell in this video show's he had the talent, its a real shame he was killed in a Group C sports car race at Spa.........I rated Mansell as being as good as Senna.....proper racers both of them.....Regards Barry
Thank you for responding to me Barry in my question. Actually Schumacher's favourite Formula one driver was Stefan Bellof when Schumacher was a young person growing up. Nigel Mansell was one of the very best British Formula one drivers ever. In fact I think Mansell is the 2nd best Formula 1 British driver ever behind Jim Clark who is in my opinion the greatest ever Formula One driver in it's 70 year history.
Bellof and Senna... Gods of speed.
Blessed with talented.
Wow i have that ferrari 126 c4 model at my room. Nice to see it in action.
This was the best track on the history of formula one. Thats a shame we lost it
+GabrielKirov I agree....
It was a good track, but by far not the best or the most interesting. Need I to mention that Nordschleife was on the calendar?
Disagree - if it had kept F1 it would have eventually become a sanitized abomination. It still looks much the same today and all the better for it imo
Johnnyfanta, the worst abomination in F1 for years is Monaco, and yet it is still used. On that track you can hardly overtake anyone. It just looks like a parade of expensive cars.
Nubruging GP circuit is the best IMO
Great video ! Bellof's Tyrrell actually had the only naturally aspirated engine, a Cosworth DFY V8.
Kart Persano Thanks Kart..........yes amongst all the 'Turbo' cars was Bellof Ragging the Tyrrell for all it was worth.....he was a talent was Bellof and would have gone onto greater things but alas his career was stopped short.........Regards Barry
Barry Price Thanks for your response. Indeed he was a talent. It's good to see Ayrton's Toleman in action too. I do think Brands Hatch is one of the most beautiful circuits in the world.
those were the days!!
Music master
People always say V6 turbo F1 suck, maybe they never watch these video.
The golden days
Ayrton Senna, Stefan Bellof, Elio DeAngelis, Michele Alboreto. RIP
Brabhams had the best looking car. Blue white and the "windshield".
I was there, first time i saw F1
The seating position on the Ferrari looks very far forward
the real F.1..
Gold
Was there that day.
Thank you thank you Mr. Price! Your talented camera and sound work should be training for the dummies that produce F1 for TV these days. In fact most forms of TV coverage of auto racing could learn a thing or two from you about filming for action and speed! The overuse of long lenses and and too little car noise on the audio has made modern racing on TV BORING.
Stefan Bellof 🖤❤💛
At this point, Senna does not have the famous “Senna foot” throttlework yet. So, he learns that in a 1984 season somewhere 😃
What a circuit Brands was. A real track, unlike the sanitised, anaemic ironing board known as Silverstone.
🙌❤
Noticing how aggressive Bellof's driving is - wasn't this recently after he almost won at Monaco...?
wellingboroughspider Yes he finished 3rd at Monaco but was disqualified for a weight technicality but his drive at Monaco was 'Awesome'.So good infact that he was noticed by Enzo Ferrari' and was to drive for Farrari in 1986 but alas was Killed at Spa in a Group C sports car race in 1985.........its great to have some footage of Stefan 'Ragging' the Tyrrell around Brands Hatch.........Cheers Barry
Barry Price the footage is brilliant. So good I shared it on Tentenths.com - a few people are enjoying it there! Also, sent this one to Tambay + the 86 one to Streiff and Johansson, who both appreciated it ;)
wellingboroughspider Thanks Very Much Wellingboroughspider glad you was able to share the footage, Im sure it brought back some memories to those Guys.......Cheers Barry
@@BarryPrice1959 Stefan was probably the greatest endurance driver of all: even legends such as Ickx and Bell looked slow in comparison. And remember that Stefan's Nurburgring lap record set in the Porsche 956 stood for thirty-odd years.
STEFAN BELLOF😎
fantastic era those cars were awsome belloff would surely been a future world champion great great days
Thanks Ian, yes Belloff was a real talent and would have on to greater things in F1...........cheers Barry
you are welcome barry a trully outstanding talent
i dont know what you yhink about the modern formula i racing barry but i dont like it far two many regulations in force i love watching the 60s 70s and eighties awsome
Yes Ian...I like the Driver against Driver in F1, like Senna / Prost Mansell etc...........driver skill and commitment is what I used to like about F1 but not in the modern era, its more about the car and too many variables.........saving fuel, Tyres, strategy.....I want to see drivers overtake on the track not in the pits and I want cars to sound like the ones in this video........modern F1 is a bit boring for those of us that watched it back in the day.........cheers Barry
i dont know what you think to todays racing barry but i personally dont like it two many regulations but i think above all else the drivers back then in the eighties were a lot better drivers then today ok such as hamilton vettel alonso and i think that young vestappen is an amasing talent
Manual gearboxes 😍
Bring back F1 to Brands Hatch
Never seen these rear wings before
Bellof was in a non-turbo car, the Tyrrell. :)
Remember Stefan & Ayrton
these sound surprisingly similar to the 2015 cars.
V6 turbo but... brutal sounding
Thanks for sharing this incredible footage, Barry. I'm in the process of building a model of Senna's 1984 Toleman for my channel. Would it be OK for me to use a couple of clips of Senna from your video please? I'd give full credit in both the video itself and the description.
Yes no problem if you want to use some clips .......regards Barry
@@BarryPrice1959 Thank you, that's very kind of you. And thanks again for posting this footage. I'm often at Brands and it's great to see how it has (and hasn't) changed.
the tyrrell was a ford v8 dfv not turbo charged
Erm, you forgot to mention williams, ligier, and arrows in the description since they were in the latter half of the video
Fantastic video, priceless. Do you happen to remember the date this was? Thanks.
+F1jones I affraid I don't know the actual dates of the test......it was mid week approx 6 weeks before the Grand Prix at Brands........glad you enjoyed the 'Golden Era' of Formula 1
Excellent, that's all I needed to know. Yes, I was lucky enough to experience that era. It didn't all start with Prost v. Senna. ;)
After listening to this a few times, I do notice something. Arnoux's Ferrari sounds very different to Alboreto's, exhaust? Firing order? Any ideas guys?
Alboreto's Ferrari does sound different....this was a test day so they could have been running different exhaust's or engine set up.....Arnoux's sounds a bit rough in comparison with Alboreto's.......who knows what they were testing during the day.
Around this time (84/85) I know Ferrari were experimenting with a four turbo v6. As far as I know, it never left the factory test circuit, but I could be wrong on that.
@@ShmuelWeintraub if you listen to Arnoux, his car sounds completely different to Alboreto, like a different firing order, it actually sounds like a V12 but I doubt that, probably a weird exhaust or turbo config, this was still he old engine with the turbos on top like Pironi and Villeneuve, so clearly different, it does sound like no other V6 turbo I have heard from that era though.
Tyrrell in 1984 hadn't a turbo.
DFV, the last use of it wasn't it?
@@heyzoos-cgr9369 from my info yes
0:25 turbo v6
vs
0:35 na V8
V6 is louder
Mama picco!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great footage indeed, but there's something wrong with the dimensions, making the car look too short and too small :)
The footage is over 30 years old and was filmed in a narrower format than todays 'Wide screen' broadcasts.....Regards Barry
That’s Stefan Bellof in the DFV Tyrrell (?) car?
Yes that's Belloff in the Tyrell.....cheers Barry
Barry Price wow, great video. The point and shoot style is very cool, what great sounding cars
Thanks Crocker.......shot on with my sony Betamax camera, 33 years ago so its not bad........great to watch Bellof 'Rgging' the Tyrell, .............Regards Barry
Bellof's entire upper body is exposed.
Jon Dury I saw that too, crazy dangerous.
it was a shame that bellof's performance was sidelined by his numerous disqualifications, setting an unwanted record...
Gold wert der Stefan aber sein Tod war nicht ickx' schuld
brands gp well better than silverstone
Ahhh 1984. When Men were Men and the cars were Dangerous!!!! All you had in the pits were Mechanics.....In the 2000`s Mclaren had an exclusive test in Jerez. For 1 car there were 10 trucks!!!!!!!! The Bullshit ruined F1.... :-(((
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